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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: It's bringing Johnny Bench the Hall of Famer. Johnny Great,

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Speaker 2: see you again. Let me ask you the question, do

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Speaker 2: you agree with what the Commissioner did yesterday?

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Speaker 3: I do. I just I think he's done more work

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Speaker 3: than you can imagine to try to figure this out.

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Speaker 3: I think it had to be agreed upon by the

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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame, though I think that was a question

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Speaker 3: mark that had to be done. Jane is the person

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Speaker 3: that's basically, you know, what's the sanctification of the Hall

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Speaker 3: of Fame and that hopefully all members of the Hall

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Speaker 3: of Fame, although we know there's been question marks about it,

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Speaker 3: whether it be peds or whether it be past history

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Speaker 3: or people that have been elected to the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: But for the Commissioner, I think he I know personally

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Speaker 3: that I've talked to him. I know there's others that

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Speaker 3: have talked to him. I know that he's trying to

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Speaker 3: get the temperature of what it was. I think the

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Speaker 3: temperature was mixed. I think I think like the voting

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Speaker 3: is sixty one percent. I think the percentages were one

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Speaker 3: way or the other with some Hall of famers. Do

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Speaker 3: you take a poll of the Hall of Famers, or

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Speaker 3: you take a poll of the writers, or you take

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Speaker 3: a poll of just the dan Etz and I think

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Speaker 3: you're going to wind well. I mean, they're fans, and

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Speaker 3: they understand what's happened with Pete and with the Black

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Speaker 3: Sox scandals. I mean the one person I mean, as

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Speaker 3: you may, as you know Ted Williams was a staunch

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Speaker 3: supporter of shoeless show Jackson, and they keep saying, well,

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Speaker 3: there was no evidence against it, and he hit three

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Speaker 3: something or four hundred, So I guess the feel is

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Speaker 3: all I can say is it is a perfect time

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Speaker 3: for this thing to come out because right now as

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Speaker 3: we prepare for the day, I am not in Cincinnati,

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Speaker 3: but they are honoring Pete at the stadium. There will

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Speaker 3: be forty two thousand people coming out and maybe more

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Speaker 3: now that this announcement has been done. But for the

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Speaker 3: Rose family, I'm extremely happy for them that it's all

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Speaker 3: somewhat behind us.

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Speaker 2: Why wait until Pete dines, Well.

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Speaker 3: That's I think that there was some concern that it

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Speaker 3: would He wanted to get into the game of baseball

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Speaker 3: as far as what has been talked about. He wanted

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Speaker 3: to still be a manager or something like that. I

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Speaker 3: think that created some problems, the fact that whether somebody

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Speaker 3: would actually hire him at this point or what position

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Speaker 3: he would be in. And I think there was still okay,

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Speaker 3: you know, we still have to have a certain caution here.

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Speaker 3: We got to put up some yellow flags and in

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Speaker 3: most cases a lot of red flags and make sure

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Speaker 3: that none of this happens. I really believe it was

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Speaker 3: a push by so many people. I think the Commissioner's

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Speaker 3: ruled on it twice. I know Bud Jim Bud Seeley

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Speaker 3: ruled on it two or three times, and the consensus

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Speaker 3: was that he was not going to he was permanently banned.

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Speaker 3: And so I think there's they're cutting hairs a little

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Speaker 3: bit on whether now that he's deceased.

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Speaker 2: Now it's okay, you probably know this better than anybody.

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Speaker 2: How do you think Pete would react today if he

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Speaker 2: were alive?

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Speaker 3: About damn time? What? What took him so long? About

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Speaker 3: damn time? Uh? No? I think he wanted to, He

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Speaker 3: wanted to be voted on. I think he felt like

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Speaker 3: he never had that opportunity and everything else, and I

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Speaker 3: think that was his one one thing. I think he

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Speaker 3: always believed that had he been on the ballot that

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Speaker 3: he would have been voted into the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: Now what the what the Hall of Fame has not done,

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Speaker 3: I think is make a space for Pete in the Hall.

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Speaker 3: And you know, we we honor different groups of baseball players.

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Speaker 3: We honored catchers, or we honored day, we honor the

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Speaker 3: heroes and what is baseball and legends and everything else.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a perfect spot for the Hall of

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Speaker 3: Fame to in so many ways. And I think you'll

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Speaker 3: see it in Cincinnati on the board today. I think

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Speaker 3: they'll highlight all the things and the person that he

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Speaker 3: was one hundred and forty five pounds, He was not drafted,

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Speaker 3: he had to be he had to be had at

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Speaker 3: a scout, which was an uncle to give him a tryout.

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Speaker 3: Then he winds up being an All Star at five

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Speaker 3: different positions, then he's you know, he wins the MVP

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Speaker 3: of the World Series. These are all things that you

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Speaker 3: can honor him with and praise him for. And I

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Speaker 3: and and the other players on MLB talking about the

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Speaker 3: fact that they were they wanted to be like Pete,

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Speaker 3: they wanted to play like Pete. They wanted to hit

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Speaker 3: He was a persona case personification of hustle and attitude

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Speaker 3: are the rules, but for Pete, he I think he

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Speaker 3: should be honored at the Hall of Fame just with video,

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Speaker 3: but you also tell the story of why and while

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Speaker 3: why this happened, and what the ramifications are.

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Speaker 2: I think the immediate reaction from a lot of people

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Speaker 2: And I've cautioned my audience to say, they're not going

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Speaker 2: And there's other guys on that ballot like Steve Garby

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Speaker 2: Shoeless Joe Jackson's going to be on there as well.

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Speaker 2: So it's not a foregone conclusion Pete gets in or

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Speaker 2: even gets on the ballot. But you know it's going

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Speaker 2: to be a process here, and people.

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Speaker 3: Should I think we can. I think we can assume

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Speaker 3: going to be the need for that to happen. But

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Speaker 3: I think there's you know, there's you know, there's guys.

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Speaker 3: You know they've been on Some of these guys have

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Speaker 3: been on the ballot for twenty years. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 3: they keep thinking, or they'll think, and you know, famous

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Speaker 3: is we're of Frank Robinson and Bob Feller and this

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Speaker 3: isn't for the good, this is for the great and

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Speaker 3: so and that is exactly the way it was framed.

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Speaker 3: And so here here we are at this point saying, okay,

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Speaker 3: you we know Pete Rose great good gosh, he's forty

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Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty six hits, you know, and you

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Speaker 3: know all the teams that he helped in all the

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Speaker 3: World Series. We know it's there. But I think that

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Speaker 3: would be the ultimate honor. But again, you're, okay, we're

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Speaker 3: going to take twelve or sixteen guys. We're gonna take

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Speaker 3: take eight players, and we're gonna have to get twelve votes.

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Speaker 3: And you know, Marvin Miller didn't make it in Forever

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Speaker 3: and that's why it took long then. And you can

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Speaker 3: also say that Sosa and the Peds and Maguire saved

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Speaker 3: the game of baseball. All of these things are suppositions.

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Speaker 3: All these things are not proven, but all these things

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Speaker 2: Yeses talking to Johnny Bench, the Hall of Famer. Do

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Speaker 2: you think Pete Bett as a baseball player on baseball?

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Speaker 3: I don't have that knowledge. I'm for me to say yes,

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Speaker 3: I think that that would be a little I can't

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Speaker 3: say for sure because I don't have any evidence of that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just maintain And once again, Pete and I

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Speaker 2: shared a bookie growing up when Pete was Pete Rose.

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Speaker 2: You know, I went through a bookie that he used.

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Speaker 2: So I never knew anything about Pete betting as a player.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think you start betting as a manager.

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Speaker 2: And I like, right, let's be fair to the situation here,

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Speaker 2: because everybody said, well, he bet as a manager and

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Speaker 2: he bet on his team to win. I think there's

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Speaker 2: more information there that hasn't did he did?

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Speaker 3: He bet on them every game to win.

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Speaker 2: He told me a couple of years ago, first time

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Speaker 2: he ever admitted that he bet on the Reds to win. Now,

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Speaker 2: I I was under the impression and he was betting

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, so Dan, you you're you're standing beside him,

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Speaker 3: and here you're listening to him calling his bookie, and

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Speaker 3: he says, I want the Reds, the Indians and the Braids.

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Speaker 3: You stand by him. The next night he wants the Reds,

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Speaker 3: the Yankees and the Dodgers. And the next night he says,

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Speaker 3: I want the Pirates, the Cubs and the Yankees. You

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Speaker 3: don't like the Reds tonight, Okay's going to be calling.

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Speaker 2: The book But Johnny, I was told by somebody who

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Speaker 2: would know there were certain pictures that Pete didn't want

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Speaker 2: to bet on to win games for the Reds.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I had a lot of conversations. Did you

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Speaker 2: I had too many conversations. But I would know during

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Speaker 2: hockey season or football season who Pete was betting on

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Speaker 2: through my bookie. Who took you know, some of the

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Speaker 2: off bets from the main bookie who lived in Indian

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Speaker 2: was kind of privy to this. I get to ESPN,

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Speaker 2: I walk in first month, I'm there, the Pete Rose

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Speaker 2: need some information here, and my bookie's like, no names.

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Speaker 2: I said, no, just give me the information, and he did.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's like gambling becomes yours. Like it's like you

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Speaker 3: you know, this is the story. I'll just use you

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Speaker 3: as an example. You bet on every baseball game, you

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Speaker 3: I am done with betting, I am not going to

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Speaker 3: It's just coming up. And you'll say, what do I.

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Speaker 2: Know about hockey? Well, Pete had that satellite dish outside

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Speaker 2: He'd be watching Vancouver Canucks and betting hockey.

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Speaker 3: Oh I can still remember, well, yeah, I mean he

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Speaker 3: got a tip. You know, somebody gave you a good tell.

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Speaker 3: You back in the seventy three or four. I we're

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Speaker 3: You know, my buddy who is has a has a

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Speaker 3: and if you know, the game's coming on, he's watching

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Speaker 3: I get be armed with. Mister hoped if I I

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Speaker 3: watched the game, I said, well, I'm not turning it's

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Speaker 3: going to have to do that? And he said, you know,

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Speaker 3: just Hope do you uh? Do you like football? Of

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Speaker 3: course he had his book open to whatever his bets were,

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Speaker 3: and Bob said.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, turn it on.

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Speaker 3: Let's see what this. I got four of them. I

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Speaker 3: got four puns on this guy. I think everybody's probably

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Speaker 3: he had a bet at one time or the other.

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Speaker 3: Have you I have? You know? I somebody said if

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Speaker 3: you'll better want every home favorite, you'll win. So I

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Speaker 3: tried it for about six games. You know I would

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Speaker 3: I couldn't you know if I you know, I said, no,

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Speaker 3: it's not my it's not my ideal. I'm not lucky

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Speaker 2: And I love my money, Moore, would you rather have

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Speaker 2: Otani or Judge on your team right now?

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Speaker 3: What position? Oh, he's a yeah, I've seen your game.

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Speaker 2: To Happy Gilmore.

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Speaker 2: Rich joining us now Hall of Famer Jason Kidd, mAb's

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Speaker 2: just wondering, where do you rank on the all time

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Speaker 2: assist list. Let's go around the room and guess where

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Speaker 2: is Jay Kidd on the all time list?

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Speaker 4: There?

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Speaker 2: Todd third, third, Okay Seaton two, Marvin third, Paul two.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go four. Where is Jake Kid on the

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Speaker 4: Stock number one?

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Speaker 7: Chris Paul new number two spot, Jason Kidd in a

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Speaker 7: three spot, Lebron James on his heels?

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Speaker 2: Is Lebron going to catch Jay Kidd?

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Speaker 4: He's got five hundred and eight to go.

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Speaker 2: Man, you're getting kicked. You're getting kicked down here? Man,

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Speaker 2: how are you doing?

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Speaker 8: I'm doing great, Dan, I'm doing great. Yes, that happens.

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Speaker 8: I didn't play long enough.

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Speaker 2: Best passer though, in the history of the game, is

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Speaker 2: who not who had the most assists? Best passer passer?

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Speaker 9: I'm going to go with Stockton.

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Speaker 2: Why is then?

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Speaker 8: I think you know the bounce pass. He had, big hands,

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Speaker 8: could take it off, the dribble, could pause with it.

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Speaker 8: Some would say it's maybe double.

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Speaker 9: Dribble, but.

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Speaker 8: I think he knew how to manipulate the ball off

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Speaker 2: Okay, but when did carrying become legal in the NBA.

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Speaker 8: In nineteen sixty sixty. Well, it's always been a part

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Speaker 2: Well no, no, like now it's just you can have

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Speaker 2: go Was it Iverson who started it?

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Speaker 9: I don't think it was Iverson. I think it's the

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Speaker 2: Just talking about. Was the first guy to carry the ball.

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Speaker 8: I think if you look at Stockton, he knew how

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Speaker 2: Was he dirty?

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Speaker 9: He was smart?

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Speaker 2: Where were you on Lottery night?

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Speaker 9: Lottery Night?

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Speaker 8: I was in Newport Beach at a board meeting for

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Speaker 8: and he goes, I think you just got one. I go,

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Speaker 8: you mean we stayed at eleven, and then my phone

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Speaker 9: So that's where I was.

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Speaker 2: Wait, you're not even watching the lottery.

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Speaker 9: I you know, things just weren't going well for us.

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Speaker 8: But incredible to get number one. Everyone's excited, the organization,

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Speaker 8: So we're really excited about being number one.

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Speaker 2: Planning on keeping the pick and taking Cooper Flag.

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Speaker 8: Yes, I'm just the coach, So yes, I would say

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Speaker 8: that we're all concentrating on number one. The draft is

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Speaker 8: I think we're all focused.

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Speaker 2: On Have you spoken to Cooper Flag?

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Speaker 8: I have not spoken to Cooper Flag. I don't want

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Speaker 9: But there's you know, we got to go through the process.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So you would get in trouble if you did

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well no, not technically. Once we bring him in,

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Speaker 8: we'll get out.

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Speaker 2: You're not allowed to say his name.

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Speaker 9: I would.

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Speaker 8: I'm trying to be politically correct here and make sure

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Speaker 2: OK So the kid from Duke there we go.

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Speaker 4: Are you are?

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Speaker 9: You're excited. We're excited.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to get you fined. Okay, thank you,

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Speaker 2: thank you.

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Speaker 8: I can't afford the fine. And so we're excited about

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Speaker 8: the coach over there, Coach Shire and also a good

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Speaker 8: friend of mine, coach k a mentor, and get some

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Speaker 9: We're really excited about this opportunity.

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Speaker 2: You were twenty one as a rookie. I can't imagine

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Speaker 2: from Duke. How is that different or has the game

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Speaker 8: No, I don't know if it's easier. I think eighteen

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Speaker 8: turn nineteen until December and so just understanding he's young,

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Speaker 8: being able to have older players and when I say

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Speaker 2: And the kid from Duke doesn't have to walk in

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Speaker 2: and be the savior like he probably would have been

439
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Speaker 2: in Washington, DC or maybe Charlotte, that you can kind

440
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Speaker 2: of ease him in to being a third or fourth

441
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Speaker 2: option on the team.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think this is a great situation for him.

443
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Speaker 8: I think when you talk about the different guys that

444
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Speaker 8: we have already on the team, the pressure of living

445
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 8: up to number one will be a lot easier with

446
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Speaker 8: the talent around him. When you talk about the other clubs,

447
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 8: he would have to, you know, produce right away at

448
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Speaker 8: a high, high level. And so I think this is

449
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Speaker 8: a great situation for him to grow his game where

450
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Speaker 8: the pressure isn't as high, but we are playing for

451
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Speaker 8: a championship and so it would be a lot of fun.

452
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Speaker 2: Jason Kidd, Hall of Famer Mavericks head coach, how were

453
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Speaker 2: you told that you had just traded Luca.

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Speaker 8: I was told by my boss Nico that we were

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Speaker 8: going to make a change.

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Speaker 2: But where where give me the give me this scenario hotel?

457
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Speaker 8: This is in the hotel in Cleveland. And so he

458
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Speaker 8: said the news was going to hit in an hour

459
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Speaker 8: and and that's how it went down. And so when

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Speaker 8: he told me, I started. I went back to my

461
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Speaker 8: room to start figuring out how we're going to use

462
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Speaker 8: a D and Christy because of this change.

463
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Speaker 9: And so so.

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Speaker 2: You found out you didn't even get a chance to argue.

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Speaker 8: No, there was there's no arguing. This is this is

466
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Speaker 8: what was going to take place. And so for me,

467
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Speaker 8: it's to to move forward from past experiences as a player.

468
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Speaker 8: I've been traded the day after Christmas, I think from

469
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Speaker 8: Dallas to Phoenix and thinking they were trading uh, Jimmy

470
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Speaker 8: or Jamal and they told me that they were trading

471
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Speaker 8: me and so and so just understanding that the train

472
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Speaker 8: keeps moving. And I thought my players and my coaching

473
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Speaker 8: staff did an incredible job with you know, once they

474
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Speaker 8: heard the news of preparing to keep moving forward and

475
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Speaker 8: and especially with all the trade and the injuries, I

476
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Speaker 8: thought we did an incredible job.

477
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Speaker 2: When's the last time you spoke to Luca?

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Speaker 8: I texted him on that morning. Uh, and that's the

479
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Speaker 8: last time I've talked to him.

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Speaker 2: How did he respond to your text?

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Speaker 8: I don't think he was too happy, and just again

482
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 8: from the experience of being traded, you know, maybe being surprised,

483
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 8: you know, upset, feelings are high. But again, I loved

484
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Speaker 8: the opportunity of coaching Luca. He's an incredible person and

485
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 8: we all know his talent is one of the best

486
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Speaker 8: in the world. And so you know, again my mindset

487
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Speaker 8: is to deal with the cars that I'm dealt and

488
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Speaker 8: and keep pushing forward. And I've always said this publicly

489
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Speaker 8: and probably I wish Luca the best. He's one of

490
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Speaker 8: the best players in the world.

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Speaker 2: I thought you were going to say that you meet

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Speaker 2: with Nico in his hotel room, he tells you he's

493
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Speaker 2: trading Luca, and then you go back to your hotel

494
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Speaker 2: room and cry. But but but that didn't happen, right.

495
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Speaker 8: I didn't cry. I was more or less trying to

496
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Speaker 8: figure out how we're going to make this thing work.

497
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Speaker 8: You know, this is a big trade.

498
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Speaker 2: But who do you call first? After Nico tells you

499
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Speaker 2: that you're trading Luca.

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Speaker 8: I didn't call anybody. I put my phone down and

501
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 8: looked at the ceiling as started trying to brainstorm of

502
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Speaker 8: how this is going to go down. I did not

503
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Speaker 8: call anybody once this hit, and my my job as

504
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 8: the coaches is to make sure that we all are

505
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Speaker 8: pushing in the right direction. There was gonna be a

506
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 8: lot of questions that morning from staff and players, and

507
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Speaker 8: I thought Nico did a great job of handling it

508
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Speaker 8: by having the meeting and for us pushing forward.

509
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Speaker 2: Anybody have a better handle than Kyrie in that in

510
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Speaker 2: NBA history.

511
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Speaker 8: Oh, I'm gonna say no, But I'm gonna say there's

512
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 8: some close seconds when you talk about Isaiah Thomas Detroit, Isaiah.

513
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Speaker 2: Thomas underrated by the way.

514
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Speaker 9: Oh, very underrated, very underrated.

515
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Speaker 8: Why I think sometimes it's it's our fault we don't

516
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Speaker 8: we don't bring up Isaiah Jay Williams white Chocolate. I

517
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 8: thought his handle and his passing is incredible storytelling. I

518
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 8: don't know if we don't do a good, good enough

519
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:18,239
Speaker 8: job of storytelling with Isaiah or our past players, and

520
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 8: so I think Isaiah would be right there as one b.

521
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think with Isaiah likability. The way they played,

522
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 2: they were the bad boys. You know, they were trying

523
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 2: to hurt Jordan, and I think that maybe that plays

524
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Speaker 2: into it with Isaiah.

525
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Speaker 9: Well, I don't know if they were just trying to

526
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Speaker 9: hurt Jordan.

527
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 2: They were trying to hurt everybody. But if the Pistons

528
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: don't treat Michael that way, Michael doesn't start weightlifting, and

529
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 2: like that made Michael even greater. They're responsible for unleashing,

530
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 2: you know, the new and improved Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think.

532
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Speaker 8: You know, sometimes when we look at things that take

533
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 8: place in our league, uh, some are looked upon as negatives,

534
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 8: but a lot of players or coaches use them as

535
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 8: positives and try to turn it into something. And as

536
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 8: you said, Unleasha's the beast and Michael and he took

537
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 8: that and ran with it, got stronger. His game was,

538
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 8: his talent was already elite, and so I think he

539
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 8: used as motivation to become the best in the world.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember facing him the first time? Yes, oh

541
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:31,959
Speaker 2: what happened?

542
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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 8: It was actually nice. He was nice to me. I'll

544
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 8: never forget I ended up on him. Unfortunately, I didn't

545
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 8: know how the switch happened. But he has me in

546
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 8: the post and all I can think about is just

547
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 8: turn around and fade away and keep it simple and nice.

548
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 8: But he went baseline and he took off, and unfortunately

549
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 8: my wife I didn't. I missed it, and I was like, oh,

550
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 8: this is going to be on ESPN H and he's

551
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 8: gonna do and look and you know, do what he does.

552
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 9: But he just did a.

553
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 8: Nice little reverse layup and looked and kind of winked,

554
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 8: and I say, oh, man, I'm glad he'd dunk it.

555
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 9: But he took it easy on me.

556
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 2: But why did you realize he was better than you?

557
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 9: Oh before tip off?

558
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 2: Well, you know, you guys have egos. I mean, like

559
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: Larry Bird had to get to a point where he said,

560
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 2: you know what, he's the best player in the game.

561
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Speaker 2: My magic had to you. Guys, are you know, pretty

562
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 2: tough when you're going to relinquish something like that.

563
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Speaker 8: Yeah, But I think we all understood when we we

564
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 8: have to be realistic, Uh, understanding Michael is the best

565
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 8: and so coming in as a rookie, you know you

566
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 8: wanted that challenge. He wanted to compete against the best,

567
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 8: but understanding he was going to win the majority of

568
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 8: those battles.

569
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Speaker 9: And and he did, and and.

570
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 8: So you couldn't wait for that game to be over

571
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 8: so that you can go plays that you can take

572
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 8: and stuff.

573
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Speaker 2: Maybe they'll write a book on this year for the

574
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: Dallas Mavericks one day, just this year of everything that's happened,

575
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: because it's hard to believe, right.

576
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think you're right. I think there's someone's going

577
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 9: to write a book.

578
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: Or thirty for thirty on ESPN.

579
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Speaker 9: It could be a thirty for thirty for sure.

580
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 8: There's enough content, you know there when you talk about

581
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 8: just there was in you know, a season within a season,

582
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 8: and there's maybe three seasons just with the trade and

583
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Speaker 8: with all the injuries that we had, trying to keep

584
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 8: you know, pushing forward and finding a way into the

585
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 8: playing game and winning one and unfortunately coming up short

586
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 8: against Memphis, but just everything that took place. I think

587
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 8: there is a book there and then probably a thirty

588
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Speaker 8: for thirty.

589
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Speaker 2: Good to talk to you again, Thanks for joining us.

590
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Speaker 9: Happy birthday, Thank you, thank you. Look great man.

591
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: What did you get me?

592
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 9: Well?

593
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 8: I was going to say a jump shot, but you

594
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 8: already believe that you shoot, So.

595
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 2: Now we don't we don't want to go down the road,

596
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 2: do we? We don't want to go down memory lane?

597
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 2: Because do we?

598
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 4: Yeah?

599
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 9: Why not? It's your birthday? You you.

600
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 2: I go to Dallas to shoot against you, right, Yes,

601
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,719
Speaker 2: I come to down. I fly to Dallas to play

602
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: you know you in a game of horse.

603
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 9: Yes.

604
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 2: And what happened after practice? Who went home and left

605
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 2: me there out shooting by myself?

606
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 4: You did well?

607
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 9: You I forfeited, so you are?

608
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah? And then all of a sudden, who becomes

609
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: a great three point shooter?

610
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 4: You do?

611
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, you turned me into a great three point shooter.

612
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 8: So you get credit. I'm giving you credit. Where's doing?

613
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 8: You turned me into a three point shooter?

614
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome. So I

615
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: don't need a jump shot. We know that.

616
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 3: You know?

617
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 9: Maybe what hutter driver?

618
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: How about this? How about a autograph jersey from the

619
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Speaker 2: kid from Duke Oh done? Okay, here we go easy,

620
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 2: just making dreams come true? Thank you, bud him. That's

621
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Speaker 2: Jason Kidd, Hall of Famer. Yeah, I told you guys

622
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 2: the story here, I told you the story. I went

623
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Speaker 2: to Dallas. We had a great relationship, and I said

624
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Speaker 2: I will beat you in a shooting contest. And I'm

625
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: there in the stands waiting for practice to end, and

626
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 2: I'm waiting it ends, and I'm going, where's Jason? The

627
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 2: clubhouse guy goes, Oh, he left, and I go he left,

628
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 2: and he admitted he didn't he knew that I could

629
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Speaker 2: shoot there. He is right there. He just came back.

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Speaker 1: He wants he knows it's true. He knows it's true.

631
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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

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Speaker 1: Patrick Show nine am Eastern, six am Pacific on Fox

633
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Speaker 1: Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 5: Wapp ooh ooh, ooh it's us, it really is. And

635
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 5: not only that. Look at those dance moves from Iowa Sam.

636
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Speaker 5: He's up and at him.

637
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 4: Look at that guy. It's too early for that. How

638
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 4: does he have the energy.

639
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Speaker 6: To put a perspective for people that don't know Fox

640
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 6: Sports Radio employee IOA Sam, who's all over the place

641
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 6: running the board today. He has the mannerisms of a

642
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 6: young Conan O'Brien, Yes, yes, which is great, and the

643
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Speaker 6: looks of a young Will Ferrell or something.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on. That's high compliments. Yeah,

645
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 4: he's got an afro going on. I can tell you that,

646
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Speaker 4: and I love him.

647
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Speaker 5: And my favorite story about Iowa Sam, who's playing the

648
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 5: xylophone so masterfully so early in the morning dancing, is

649
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Speaker 5: that he recently told us his confirmation name, which is

650
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Speaker 5: sort of like his middle name he goes by.

651
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Speaker 4: Is Javier. Javier there he is. That's the best Javier Sam.

652
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Speaker 4: What you don't know about me?

653
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Speaker 2: Of course?

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Speaker 5: Again, Kaino, that is rich. We're in for the great

655
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 5: Dan Patrick. Always a pleasure. And Bri is on the phones.

656
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Speaker 5: What's up?

657
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Speaker 4: Are you holding it down? It's great to see Brie.

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Speaker 2: What at the light?

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Speaker 4: I know?

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Speaker 5: I mean, we love our producer Danny G and all,

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Speaker 5: but Bri, you don't smell like boloney and coffee.

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Speaker 4: Just kidding.

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Speaker 5: Plus Danny G's like you, I smell fantastic and he

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Speaker 5: does the number eight seven seven ninety nine. On Fox

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Speaker 5: Uh oh, better get mako. There is a lot to

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Speaker 5: get to today.

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Speaker 6: Oh no, We're gonna tell Cowboys and uh Man, Fox

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Speaker 6: might not love the Cowboys as much as you think there,

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Speaker 6: says oh NFL News.

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Speaker 4: It says me, we'll get to that, man. I gotta

675
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Speaker 4: talk about your yank.

676
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 5: I've never seen a fan base sweat a player that

677
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 5: was on their team for one year.

678
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 4: Get off of Juan Sotos wavos.

679
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 5: Everybody needs something to rally around, and he's the target.

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00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 5: Tonight gonna be an action pack day for New York.

681
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 5: Of course, the Knicks play tonight. But speaking of basketball,

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Speaker 5: I hope you had a Denver Nuggets sort of night,

683
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 5: a Jokic sort of night. Looks like they're back in action.

684
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 5: Got the thunder up against the wall now, So I

685
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 5: hope you're enjoying some great basketball. We got some great

686
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Speaker 5: baseball going on this weekend. Super pump that is Friday.

687
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 5: Super pumped to be here in for Dan Patrick. Now

688
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 5: while you're still in your car and on your way

689
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 5: to work or whatever on this glorious Friday. Remember we're

690
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 5: on Monday through Friday anyway, all the time nation wide,

691
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Speaker 5: like the warehouse. We're nationwide two to four on the West,

692
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Speaker 5: five to seven on the East, Monday through Friday. But

693
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Speaker 5: when they say hey, DP needs you where you're always

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Speaker 5: fun to hang out with.

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Speaker 4: You guys.

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Speaker 6: Now, we got to talk about what's going on tonight

697
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Speaker 6: because I think I think forget that. Hell, I know,

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Speaker 6: tonight is the biggest event that's happening at Madison Square

699
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Speaker 6: Garden in the twenty first century. I know you might

700
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Speaker 6: think that sounds crazy, but I'll explain a second. But

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Speaker 6: before we get into Nick Celtics tonight, which is a

702
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Speaker 6: big deal, big story, I gotta ask you, like the

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Speaker 6: most immature, dumb question please, And it's a fun question

704
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Speaker 6: because I was talking about this with one of the

705
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Speaker 6: dads for my kids little league team yesterday. If you

706
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Speaker 6: were watching the Thunder and the Nuggies, Jamal Murray going

707
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 6: off twenty five points and he was sick, not feeling well.

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Speaker 6: You know, sometimes big game players come up in big spots,

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Speaker 6: especially when they're not feeling so hot.

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Speaker 5: Right, kind of how I feel today. It's a big day.

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00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 5: We're filling in and I feel a little out of it,

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Speaker 5: you know what. I because I'm sick because I stuffed

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Speaker 5: my face yesterday. So I'm like, oh many meet the

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Speaker 5: mass over and used and waking up so early. My

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Speaker 5: bathroom schedules off. So I'm really like, oh, don't tell

716
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 5: us that, but yeah, man, oh, I ate so much

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00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 5: like a slob yesterday that I'm not feeling that great

718
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 5: right now. I have the same thing, right. A relatively

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Speaker 5: immature question for you, but.

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Speaker 6: Listen, when you play at an NBA level, a Major

721
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 6: League Baseball level, at NFL level, you're always trying to

722
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Speaker 6: get the edge, right, like everyone, that's a big thing

723
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Speaker 6: in sports.

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Speaker 4: You're trying to get the edge, any advantage, right right.

725
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Speaker 6: You've heard there's players who got stinkys in the NFL

726
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 6: because they you know, they want people to get away

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Speaker 6: from me.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, any advantage, any edge. So competitive the most competitive

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Speaker 5: people on the planet.

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Speaker 6: So if you're a sick Jamal Murray, do you breathe

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Speaker 6: a little bit on SGA like.

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Speaker 4: Maybe thinking like if I have a little twenty four

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Speaker 4: the Last of Us, like the Last of Us? If

734
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Speaker 4: you watch The Last of Us.

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Speaker 6: I'm just picturing those deadly green spores when she's in

736
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Speaker 6: that elevator bank.

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Speaker 5: You know, it is a really dumb question. I'm glad

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Speaker 5: you prefaced it, but I wouldn't put it past them.

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Speaker 4: Dude.

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Speaker 5: If the ninest level we're talking of the most competitive

741
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Speaker 5: people on Earth, and I wouldn't be surprised that it

742
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Speaker 5: happens in regular life because some people are just that competitive.

743
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Speaker 5: Like if Jonas was like I really want to bring

744
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Speaker 5: down cn R, I hate those guys. You know, you'd

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Speaker 5: be rubbing his germs all over the microphones.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how that works, you.

747
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Speaker 5: Know, but we love Jonas and we love everybody here luckily,

748
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Speaker 5: but you never know, Yeah, find out he rubbed his

749
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Speaker 5: cheeks on your mic. People are vengeful. They didn't Mike

750
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Speaker 5: who runs his place? They'd like, never leave your tooth

751
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Speaker 5: brush around people you don't know, or something weird like that,

752
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Speaker 5: who runs his place?

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Speaker 6: My point, My point is simple. It might soundly mature,

754
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Speaker 6: but when one of us are sick, you or our

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Speaker 6: video guy spots the first, Oh, don't breathe on.

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Speaker 4: Me, cor I mean COVID changed the game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I'm saying he can bring up that dirty

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Speaker 5: word that ruined four years of our life. I think

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Speaker 5: that if regular people are eye rolling about, like stay away,

760
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 5: don't come to work, if you're feeling sick and you

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Speaker 5: have a game seven and forty eight hours, you don't

762
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Speaker 5: think it's a wild thought to be like maybe I'll

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Speaker 5: breathe a little extra on SGA. If I have a

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Speaker 5: twenty four to forty eight hour little thing going on,

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Speaker 5: maybe I'll give it to them. If I was a

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Speaker 5: betting man, and I'm not really, I'm just more of

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Speaker 5: a cheapskate. I like the action. I would say, no

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Speaker 5: one had this conversation at all. That's my guess because

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Speaker 5: I think of these that I put it past people

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Speaker 5: in history and in the past, and hasn't been done before.

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Speaker 5: As your favorite group, The Bear Naked Lady said, Rich,

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Speaker 5: it's all been done. I'm sure it has been done before.

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Speaker 5: It's all man, and I'm sure it's been done in

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Speaker 5: real life like sabotage. You think you think these guys

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Speaker 5: are above sabotage. I mean people are trying to all y'all,

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Speaker 5: people are sabotage.

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Speaker 6: People are in the middle of a you know, a

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Speaker 6: pylon in the NFL, and they're you know, grabbing junk

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Speaker 6: and punching guys.

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Speaker 5: You know, I doubt this happened, but the thought is

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Speaker 5: not as outrageous and goofy as you think. I bet

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Speaker 5: it's happened before because people are looking for that edge

783
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Speaker 5: like you described and sabotage and want to take people down.

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Speaker 5: And it might be someone at the office, might be

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Speaker 5: someone at the warehouse, might be someone at the oil patch.

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Speaker 5: Wherever you are, and you're trying to get ahead of

787
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Speaker 5: that guy, the sales dude, you might have done something

788
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Speaker 5: sneaky and creepy actually to.

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Speaker 4: Bring him down.

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Speaker 5: And when you're this competitive, I don't think it's impossible.

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Speaker 4: Rich, It's improbable that it happened.

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Speaker 5: Isn't it The plotlight of every dumb comedy, Like the

793
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Speaker 5: bad guy tries to get in the way of the

794
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Speaker 5: good guy, like, Oh, he's stuck in traffic, or oh,

795
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Speaker 5: don't let him get to the conference. I'm just saying,

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Speaker 5: it's not want to drink. There's not something crazy, it's

797
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Speaker 5: not wild thought.

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Speaker 4: But hey, last night.

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Speaker 5: Do you think that anybody to piggyback your dumb thought here?

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Speaker 5: Do you think anybody on the flip side is like

801
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Speaker 5: I wish he wasn't playing because their health is a concern,

802
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 5: or we passed that kind of like the Jordan Fleu game.

803
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 5: No one was really like Jordan's stay away. I'm just saying,

804
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 5: yesterday was a biggie. We talked about it.

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Speaker 6: I'm never the guy, that's like told yoursel But okayse

806
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 6: was favored by six yesterday and I remember saying, like,

807
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Speaker 6: not so fast.

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Speaker 4: This game is in Denver. I know, OKC.

809
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 5: Yesterday in Vegas they were still the odds on favorite

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Speaker 5: to win the NBA title.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what that looks like today. I know.

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Speaker 6: The Nicks and the Tea Wolves are but were both

813
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Speaker 6: plus six hundred. But yesterday they had, okay, see at

814
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Speaker 6: minus one forty. I think when you go to a

815
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Speaker 6: game seven, those odds have been adjusted. But forget that series.

816
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Speaker 6: Let's go to New York City tonight.

817
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Speaker 5: Well you know who I wouldn't put this passed by

818
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Speaker 5: the way to wrap up your previous thought, Rudy Gobert,

819
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Speaker 5: because I think he's yet to get everybody with his germs.

820
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he is the guy that spread COVID if you

821
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Speaker 4: remember that's true.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Brie, I was saying, but my crazy is I mean,

823
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Speaker 5: you could look me in the eyes and say it's

824
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 5: a dumb thought, but you don't think players are trying

825
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Speaker 5: to get the edge.

826
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Speaker 4: It is, but it's not impossible.

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Speaker 7: Seems like too much biomedical, Like you get the timing

828
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Speaker 7: of it. You know it's not gonna play out the

829
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Speaker 7: way you want. Probably you're like, I'm gonna cough on

830
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Speaker 7: this guy in game one. In my game three, he'll

831
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Speaker 7: be ill and he'll be missing the game.

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Speaker 6: You've heard times where it's like, yeah, the clubhouse, like

833
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 6: half the team's you know, not feeling well. You've heard

834
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 6: that in sports, like something goes through the locker room

835
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Speaker 6: or clubhouse.

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Speaker 5: I heard that, Bree, you wanted to produce our show

837
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Speaker 5: for Dan Patrick on this main stage show. She's the

838
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Speaker 5: one that got Danny g sick today on purpose and

839
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Speaker 5: it started like two days ago. Yeah, she set him

840
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Speaker 5: up for it. It's not impossible, it's improbable. So funny

841
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Speaker 5: thought though, because people are willing to take all sorts

842
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Speaker 5: of risks for that edge.

843
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 4: No doubt.

844
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Speaker 6: So let's go to tonight Madison Square Garden. The Knicks

845
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Speaker 6: cannot under any circumstances. Let this series go back to

846
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Speaker 6: Boston for a Game seven. And I can only compare

847
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Speaker 6: it to you know, I'm a Mets fan from New York,

848
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 6: but I'm gonna go back to when I was a

849
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Speaker 6: little boy, when I was my kid's age, when when

850
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Speaker 6: I was For the record, he's just a man boy

851
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Speaker 6: right now.

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00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 4: Yea. Now I'm a man boy. Now he's a grown

853
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Speaker 4: man boy.

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Speaker 5: My daughter often asked me, Dad, when was the last

855
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 5: time the Mets won the championship? And I reluctantly say,

856
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 5: you know, your little brother who's five six years old.

857
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 5: When I was his age, that's when the Mets won

858
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 5: nineteen eighty six. I was in kindergarten.

859
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 6: But I do remember, just from the highlights and knowledge,

860
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 6: the Mets were playing the Astros in the NLCS, and

861
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 6: that was the year Mike Scott was untouchable.

862
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Speaker 4: This is the Kevin bass on that squad. Was on

863
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 4: that squad.

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Speaker 5: Oh do you remember there were speculation he knows Mike

865
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Speaker 5: Scott scuffing the ball like he's unhittable.

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 6: The Mets were gonna have to face him in game seven. Squad, Yeah,

868
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 6: that was a big squad man. That Astros team was good,

869
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 6: but they were gonna have to face Mike Scott in

870
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Speaker 6: a game seven. So when they were in extra innings

871
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 6: in Game six, there was a pressure of like, yo,

872
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 6: you gotta win now, Mets, because if you face Mike

873
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 6: Scott in game seven, I don't know if you could

874
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 6: beat him. And I feel that way tonight about the

875
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Speaker 6: New York Knicks. If you want to talk New York

876
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Speaker 6: Sports out. My buddy's already reached out to me. Got

877
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 6: a few East Coast friends out here in LA and

878
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 6: I'm like, dude, what are we doing for the game tonight?

879
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 6: I'm like, well, I'm waking up really for you, Dan Patrick,

880
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 6: So I might be taking a nap later, but yeah,

881
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 6: we got to get together, got.

882
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 4: To do something. So much on the line.

883
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 5: Might be the biggest night in a long time for

884
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 5: New York sports with the Yankees, Mets going on tonight

885
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 5: and of course the Knicks. But Rich, I think what

886
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 5: brings the Celtics closer together, why they're so scary is

887
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 5: because they don't They don't.

888
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 4: Have Jason Tatum, and I feel.

889
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 5: That forces everybody to step up and play harder, and

890
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 5: they have a chip on their shoulder as a result.

891
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 5: I'll give you a work analogy. Let's say it's the

892
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 5: Covino and Rich Show. We've been doing this forever, Covino

893
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,439
Speaker 5: and Rich here on Fox Sports Radio for plus years, right,

894
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 5: but we've been working together. If Rich out of nowhere

895
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 5: is a caveno, I can't make it. It's not that

896
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 5: there's extra pressure on me. But I know, deep down, subconsciously, well,

897
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 5: Rich isn't here, now, I really got to bring it.

898
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,280
Speaker 4: You're making down or you're making up for something lost.

899
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 5: I'm trying to overcompensate because Rich isn't here, So you

900
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 5: know what, I'm doing extra effort.

901
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 4: Man, I'm really going to bring it today.

902
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 5: You know, I'm also subconsciously going to say I'm a

903
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 5: show everybody I don't need this guy. What yeah, I

904
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 5: mean subconsciously, bro, Yeah, yeah, I'm not like walking around

905
00:45:58,480 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 5: telling everybody but I.

906
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 4: Don't need this and I want everybody to know. No,

907
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 4: man a full of great.

908
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 5: Energy and look out, Celtics, it's the Coveno Show.

909
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 4: I mean, but Rich'll be back tomorrow.

910
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 5: But seriously, subconsciously, all these things are going on and

911
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 5: you're putting extra effort into that to show that the

912
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 5: whole team and the whole process doesn't revolve around one guy.

913
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 5: And I think they band together just to prove that, Like, yo,

914
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 5: it's not just the Jason Tatums show. We're great. We're

915
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 5: great with him, but we're great without him too. We're

916
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 5: gonna show that. That's why you don't want to take

917
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 5: any chances. That's why the Knicks have to stomp on

918
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 5: them tonight. Because you're right, then it does get a

919
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 5: little scary. Well to quote your hero as a child

920
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 5: mc hammer gaining momentum, you don't want anyone. He also said,

921
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 5: look at my eyes, man, you can't touch this. I

922
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 5: think if you go back to Boston your toast. I

923
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 5: just can't see how you're right with the with the

924
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,240
Speaker 5: Tatum stuff going back to Boston.

925
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 4: You got to.

926
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 5: Finish this tonight, which is why I think it's the

927
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 5: most important home game and the most important event at

928
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 5: Madison Square Garden. But trust me, there's another theory here

929
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 5: in the twenty first century. Here's I agree. I hate

930
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 5: agreeing with you.

931
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 6: What's the other answer going to be? Billy Joel's the show.

932
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 6: I'm a big Billy Joel fan. What the circus Ringling

933
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 6: Brothers when it comes to town.

934
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, when Gun through Gable Williams was was taming tigers

935
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 5: and lions, there's no.

936
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 4: Big fights at the garden like there were when our

937
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 4: parents were younger.

938
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 6: The Rangers haven't won a Stanley Cup since nineteen ninety four,

939
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 6: and before that, I remember nineteen forty, So.

940
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 5: Tonight we're reminded why it's the world's most famous arena,

941
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 5: no diggity, no doubt. The last big event there was

942
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 5: the Dice Man selling out.

943
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 4: I mean maybe like a big East tournament.

944
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 6: Yukon or Qus back in the day did something, But

945
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 6: I'm talking about the mecca.

946
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 5: Madison Square Garden. Is tonight the biggest game. Yes, since the.

947
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 7: Year two thousand?

948
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 4: Can you hit that high note? Since the year two thousand? Man,

949
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 4: you did that so early. Thank you, sir, Thank you

950
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 4: bringing that conan energy.

951
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 5: Iowa Sam on the ones and twos again, Breeze on

952
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 5: the phones eight seven seven ninety nine.

953
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 4: Ohs, Fox, don't be scarred.

954
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 5: Hit us up and let's chop it up, especially when

955
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 5: we're giving away prizes. But Rich, there's another theory as

956
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 5: to why you don't want to go back to Boston.

957
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 5: And let's not forget the New York Boston rivalry as

958
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 5: a city, forget about the team just as a city.

959
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 5: It's so big and so fun. I call it the

960
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,760
Speaker 5: duel for Johnny theory. Although the team wants to step

961
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,280
Speaker 5: up minus Tatum, they also want to like rally around

962
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 5: this something to rally around is scary, and I called

963
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 5: the duel for Johnny theory from the movie The Outsiders.

964
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 5: You know, they were rumbling, they were ready to win,

965
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 5: and when they're doing it for someone else, I think

966
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 5: that's when people play big. And I know that sounds corny,

967
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 5: but people get together and like, nah, man, we got you.

968
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 5: They're telling Tatum, we got you. We're gonna do it

969
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 5: for Jason, do it for Johnny. When you throw more

970
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 5: factors into the mix like that, you really see people

971
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 5: step up in different ways. It's also to tie it

972
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 5: to sports, the Brett Favre theory where he had his

973
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,919
Speaker 5: biggest game on his toughest night because he was doing

974
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 5: it for his dad who passed away. Now I'm not saying,

975
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 5: you know, Tatum's never coming back, but it's reason to play,

976
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 5: for reason to rally around. I don't think you want

977
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 5: to let another team who has all this going for them,

978
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 5: this bonding moment. You don't want to let them gain

979
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 5: momentum like you said, so that nade me said Brett Favre. Yeah,

980
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 5: use it a couple more times because in four days,

981
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 5: far far, far far, because saying four days.

982
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 4: The world is gonna hate him fly that documentary.

983
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 5: I mean a lot of people hate him on what

984
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 5: I'm saying, I think everyone's gonna hate him.

985
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 4: In four days.

986
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 5: There's a documentary coming out on Netflix, and it did

987
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 5: points out everything to make this guy awful. You bring

988
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 5: up people, rallying around people. I think you don't want

989
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 5: to admit it. As a Yankees fan, it's gonna be

990
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 5: tough for you guys to win the World Series this

991
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 5: year without Gert Cole.

992
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 4: However, if you go back a couple.

993
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 5: Of years, in twenty twenty one, the Atlanta Braves won

994
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 5: the World Series despite Ronald Acuna Junior being hurt at

995
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 5: a pivotal point in missing the season. Sometimes losing a

996
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 5: key player actually makes the team better. It sounds crazy

997
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 5: and ridiculous, but losing Jan Soto, for example, really did

998
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 5: make the Yankees lineup better, forced them to make other moves.

999
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 5: Other players had to step up. You're a more well

1000
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 5: rounded team as opposed to relying on one player or

1001
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 5: expecting one player to bring it. So, if the Celtics

1002
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 5: are able to rally around this, yeah, they're a dangerous

1003
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 5: squad still and you're seeing it. So it puts that

1004
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 5: much pressure on what the Knicks have to do, which

1005
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 5: is win at home, and it brings again the question up,

1006
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 5: is this the biggest night at the Garden in the

1007
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 5: twenty first century, that's really the year.

1008
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 6: Two thousand, because when you think about what Dane Cook

1009
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 6: selling out the Garden Sebastian menascalco, Hey, yea.

1010
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 10: I sold out ten dimes. Why would you do that?

1011
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 10: I think he sold ten nights out. I'm telling you

1012
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 10: Didney play like ten shows in the car. Since the

1013
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:27,240
Speaker 10: year two.

1014
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 6: Thousand Conan O'Brien's style, there hasn't been a There hasn't

1015
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 6: been an event of this magnitude at the Garden because

1016
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 6: everything you think of, whether it was a big fight night,

1017
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 6: all those although I remember the last time was electric

1018
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 6: sports Relatedlyn sanity, Lin sanity, Yeah, because we lived it

1019
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 6: rich and I we live in LA We're live from

1020
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 6: the barrios of the West Side right now, but we're

1021
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 6: lying from the mean streets of LA. We're in the

1022
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 6: valley of chirman Oaks. Nothing mean about cherman Oaks. Everybody

1023
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 6: koboke loco. So we live in LA now, but we're

1024
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 6: from the East coast.

1025
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 5: And not even just a garden, just the city itself

1026
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 5: was electric Boogie Yuggy Yuggy. When insanity was going on,

1027
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 5: that's how real it was, like, it really was a

1028
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 5: huge moment. It may have been a passing fleeting two

1029
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 5: weeks for you. You're like, yeah, I remember that. I

1030
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 5: mean those documentaries you've seen about Linsanity was real and

1031
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 5: the garden was rocking the way it should be when

1032
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 5: that happened. That was insane. I hate to say it.

1033
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, Lindsaye. I hate to say it because you know,

1034
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 5: we are New Yorkers originally, you know, we're original New Yorkers.

1035
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,280
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm ready to be technical. I'm a joysy

1036
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 5: boy in my golfeet, but here you grow up. New

1037
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 5: York's your backyard, your playground, and where we worked. But

1038
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 5: I see you're you're a Jersey guy. I'm actually a

1039
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 5: New Yorker. And I look at it and say, other

1040
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 5: than a stand up comedy special and insanity, maybe the

1041
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 5: debut of Carmelo Anthony because he was like a hometown

1042
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 5: guy and people loved him.

1043
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 4: Agreeing with this guy.

1044
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 5: But Rich is right, he didn't really win with the

1045
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 5: Knicks the way they wanted him to or we expected.

1046
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 5: But we were there for his debut and it was electric.

1047
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 4: We were there.

1048
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 5: It was one of the few times he went to

1049
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 5: a big game like that, and I remember everybody was

1050
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 5: super pumped about it.

1051
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 6: So the nose bleeds tonight, Seat Geeks, stub Hub, all

1052
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 6: your sites.

1053
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 5: Eight hun though for like a you know, a high up.

1054
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 5: But then again, it's a garden. It's not that big.

1055
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 5: But eight hundred bucks for what you would call the nosebleed,

1056
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 5: So yeah, get.

1057
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 4: That's take it.

1058
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 5: Oh, I don't know, eight hundred for a nose bleed. Yeah,

1059
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 5: i'd you gotta run that one by the wife. He maybe, maybe, Honey,

1060
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be sitting after after you buy it, of course,

1061
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 5: sitting behind the Billy Joel sign in the rafters. Eight

1062
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 5: hundred your thoughts is tonight the biggest event at the

1063
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 5: Garden in the twenty first century. I'm trying to think

1064
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 5: of something bigger than that, because again, tonight is going

1065
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 5: to be electric, It's going to be what New York's

1066
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 5: supposed to be the world's most famous arena. You have

1067
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 5: to factor in the fans tonight, the intimidation factor. It's

1068
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 5: going to be loud, home court advantage will be in

1069
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,720
Speaker 5: a fact, at least you hope the stars will.

1070
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 4: Be you say, intimidating fans. Are you talking about the

1071
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 4: mean mug from Ben Stiller.

1072
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,720
Speaker 5: I'm talking Timothy Shallow, a mean mug in Celtics tonight

1073
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 5: with his work boots on. So yeah, the stars will

1074
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 5: be out. You'll be watching, and if anything, I'd love

1075
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 5: to hear from you. But if anything, if you don't

1076
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 5: have a horse in the race, we gave you reason

1077
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 5: to watch tonight. You know what, Tim in Vermont, We'll

1078
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:59,760
Speaker 5: start with him. Tim biggest event, biggest event at the garden.

1079
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 1: I don't know about the biggest events being this because

1080
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: you guys thinking about the concert for nine to eleven

1081
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: in the twenty first century, you communists.

1082
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 4: You know.

1083
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 5: I remember I worked at I worked at Z one

1084
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 5: hundred in New York at that time, and they had

1085
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 5: jingle Ball three months after nine to eleven, and they

1086
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 5: had FDN Y and NYPD walking around the garden And.

1087
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 4: You mean you were there and you forgot. I was shamed. Yeah,

1088
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 4: but that was just more sentimental.

1089
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Speaker 5: I was there and Rich introduced the Backstreet voice that

1090
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Speaker 5: it's possible.

1091
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Speaker 4: Ladies and gentlemen, Well that to make some noise for Backstreet.

1092
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Speaker 4: No boy, it's from the Backstreet. Do you remember that

1093
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:41,479
Speaker 4: song the Backstreet Boy.

1094
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Speaker 6: I was saying, I don't know how quick you were

1095
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Speaker 6: on the punch, But do you remember that song Superman

1096
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Speaker 6: by five for fighting? Of course, by the way, five

1097
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Speaker 6: for fighting got his name, that's the penalty and hockey

1098
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:54,280
Speaker 6: five minutes for fighting. That song played at Madison Square

1099
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Speaker 6: Garden while FDN Y and NYPD walked around with candles.

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Speaker 5: Canch dance.

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Speaker 4: I was wondering where that voice was coming from. I

1102
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Speaker 4: forgot spots on a new part of the studio. Now

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Speaker 4: he's out of sight, the disembodied voice coming. Don't play

1104
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Speaker 4: the song, let's spot sing it. Spot. You remember that there? Man,

1105
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Speaker 4: don't I know? We have this library of music with

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Speaker 4: the cloud burden there. Thank you Scout. I my god.

1107
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 4: I know it's a sentimental moment, but that song is misery.

1108
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Speaker 6: But that was a sentben the moment, but biggest moment

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Speaker 6: tonight Medson Square gards related. Absolutely, let's go all right, listen,

1110
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Speaker 6: we got more Kaleen on Ritch coming up for the

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Speaker 6: Great Dan Patrick