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Speaker 2: Shall we just dive in Lat's I gotta save the
Speaker 2: pipes for the For the week ahead, we got a
Speaker 2: lot going on your updated college football playoff rankings. No
Speaker 2: big surprise. Dan one through four is Georgia, Michigan, TCU,
Speaker 2: and USC now checking in. All four of those teams
Speaker 2: will be discussed here momentarily, all four of those teams.
Speaker 2: In essence, you win. You're into the college football Playoff
Speaker 2: nipping at their heels as number five Ohio State. There
Speaker 2: is probably still a path for Ohio State, though Boomsheck
Speaker 2: a lack of Corgan didn't really specify what that would
Speaker 2: look like, given the fact that Ohio State does not
Speaker 2: play any further games here in the twenty twenty two
Speaker 2: college football regular season.
Speaker 3: We've also got.
Speaker 2: Alabama at number six. It seems as if Alabama is
Speaker 2: out of this thing. We've learned maybe not to count
Speaker 2: Bama out too much, but at ten and two, number six,
Speaker 2: not a game in front of them to be had.
Speaker 2: It would seem as if Bama is out of at
Speaker 2: Tennessee is at seven, Penn State is crept all the
Speaker 2: way up to number eight, Clemson still in the top
Speaker 2: ten at number nine, and Kansas State checking in at
Speaker 2: number ten. We didn't have to spend a whole lot
Speaker 2: of time on this. I know we've got news about
Speaker 2: coaches and transfer portals and the works, But any quick
Speaker 2: thoughts on what you see here anything surprise you.
Speaker 1: No, it's the illusion that I made a little bit early.
Speaker 1: That would be all not ill that, why is Georgia
Speaker 1: play this game? Like should Georgia just send out a
Speaker 1: bunch of walk ons and be like, yeah, we're gonna
Speaker 1: force your hand leave us out of the playoff after
Speaker 1: we lose to LSU fifty eight to three with a
Speaker 1: bunch of walk ons. I'm a big believer now that
Speaker 1: you just can't let Ohio State into this, even if
Speaker 1: TC loses, even if USC loses. At this point, USC
Speaker 1: was impressive enough against the best defense that they played
Speaker 1: all season long last week that you're rewarding Ohio State
Speaker 1: for losing comfortably with their big opportunity to get into
Speaker 1: the Big Ten championship game. And I know championship games
Speaker 1: are just sort of a construction with no real points
Speaker 1: see social and social construct that everybody just goes along
Speaker 1: with competitive construct. Yeah, I don't see why we can't
Speaker 1: just have this specific playoff that was announced last night.
Speaker 1: In terms of the top four, it seems totally good
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'd be very curious to see if this
Speaker 2: is the way it shakes out. But I tend to
Speaker 2: agree with you. It's one of the points of contention
Speaker 2: as we go to twelve with this thing, especially this season,
Speaker 2: I think it kind of has has bared itself out
Speaker 2: an interesting way where if not these four, then then
Speaker 2: which four?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Which other teams do you want to add to this
Speaker 2: without feeling like too much of a retread. So again,
Speaker 2: that's your top four. We'll see how things materialize over
Speaker 2: the course of the weekend. But as it stands, again,
Speaker 2: we've got Georgia, Michigan, TCU, and now USC. On the
Speaker 2: coaching side, you mentioned Georgia Tech, they mentioned Brent Key,
Speaker 2: So there had been reports about Lillly Fritz early on.
Speaker 2: We had speculated about names like Deon Sanders or Jamie Chadwell.
Speaker 2: They had decided that they're going to take the interim
Speaker 2: label off of Brent Key. Brent Key notably took over
Speaker 2: when Jeff Collins was relieved of command after a one
Speaker 2: to three start. Tech has been better since he took over.
Speaker 2: They went four and four. In many ways, this is
Speaker 2: a big deal, not just for Georgia Tech, but also
Speaker 2: for Brent Kee, who was a former team capt in
Speaker 2: it was an All acc offensive lineman in his time
Speaker 2: at Tech from nineteen ninety seven through the year two thousands,
Speaker 2: So getting a big shot here to stay on and
Speaker 2: coach the ramblin reck.
Speaker 1: He will be, to me a very good hire and
Speaker 1: it'll be looked at, it'll be smiled down upon, just
Speaker 1: because it's not the sexy one. It feels like the
Speaker 1: right one. It feels like when you have the familiarity
Speaker 1: with players. I always like offensive lineman, former offensive linemen
Speaker 1: and offensive line coaches with that background coming in because
Speaker 1: it's a really nice mix of intellect and physicality. The
Speaker 1: offensive line coaches, I feel like, you know, I think
Speaker 1: maryle christ Ball will improve, but I think he did
Speaker 1: a decent job at Oregon. Obviously, Sam Pittman had the
Speaker 1: immediate success that he's had. Kirk Ference has been up
Speaker 1: and down. But I think all things being equal, if
Speaker 1: you were to give me former position coaches offensive line
Speaker 1: of former offensive line coach familiar with the program, I
Speaker 1: think is a very strong direction to go to. No.
Speaker 1: I think it's smart. Think he's a believer in Georgia Tech.
Speaker 1: He's not going to be a mercenary who's going to say, I,
Speaker 1: you know, was good for two or three years, What's
Speaker 1: what's the next job I can get. I think he's
Speaker 1: in it for the long haul. And I like continuity
Speaker 1: a lot. You look around the sport and a lot
Speaker 1: of very successful teams higher from within, and there's a
Speaker 1: pretty strong reason why if the right guy is already
Speaker 1: on staff. And so I'm sure they did their due
Speaker 1: diligence with a number of options, and they said Brent
Speaker 1: Key just makes the most sense. We're not trying to
Speaker 1: win a press conference, we're not trying to win Twitter
Speaker 1: or anything like that, and so I think I'm great
Speaker 1: with it. He has backgrounds at you know, he was
Speaker 1: at UCF forever and has been at Georgia Tech. I
Speaker 1: think he turned down the UAB job way back when,
Speaker 1: and he has experienced in major major programs at Alabama
Speaker 1: as their offensive line coach, so from the outside looking in,
Speaker 1: especially with what he did as the interim coach, he
Speaker 1: seems to check more boxes than he doesn't.
Speaker 2: No, I think that's absolutely true. I know when this
Speaker 2: news came out, there were many folks in the Georgia
Speaker 2: Tech world that were that were happy to see it,
Speaker 2: to get that kind of continuity, because he has been very,
Speaker 2: very good since taking over Tech. Finishing the year with
Speaker 2: five wins is not a bad thing at all considering
Speaker 2: where we thought this team might be at the start
Speaker 2: of the year, So good for him. We've also got
Speaker 2: is it Trent Dilfer to UAP.
Speaker 1: Trent Dilfer to UAB. Okay, yeah, okay, okay, why I
Speaker 1: only couldn't tell you. He's a famous guy who's coached
Speaker 1: high school for three years and at one point was
Speaker 1: on ESPN and hasn't been for some time, and seems
Speaker 1: like a wild card of a personality without any working
Speaker 1: experience as a college football coach. And we've seen other
Speaker 1: you know, Todd Dodge at North Texas. Somebody pointed out
Speaker 1: to us on Twitter the worst coach in North Texas history,
Speaker 1: by the way, six and thirty seven was his overall
Speaker 1: record there. I don't. I don't. It's one of those
Speaker 1: things where and it's not unique to college football coaching
Speaker 1: as an industry, where it's just like why grind, Why improve?
Speaker 1: Why network and form all sorts of connections and work
Speaker 1: your way through the industry. When Trent Dilfer is hired
Speaker 1: at a very successful UAB program, and so that's that's
Speaker 1: the disheartening thing that you're just like, man was did
Speaker 1: they interview four hundred and forty seven people before settling
Speaker 1: on Trent Dilfer? And I guess there's always the opportunity,
Speaker 1: there's always the possibility that it works out.
Speaker 2: But I mean, he's been involved with Elite eleven. I mean,
Speaker 2: he's been fairly prominent with respect to you know, some
Speaker 2: of the some of the camp circuits I know, and
Speaker 2: it obviously has made a name for himself as somebody
Speaker 2: who can recruit and coach quarterbacks and that type of thing.
Speaker 3: So at least in that vein.
Speaker 1: Who can recruit, how do we know he can recruit?
Speaker 3: Maybe recruits the wrong word.
Speaker 2: He's worked with prominent recruits on the coaching side, so
Speaker 2: you know, he's at least been around some of the better,
Speaker 2: more elite athletes that have found their way into college football.
Speaker 2: But in terms of running a program, Yeah, that's that's
Speaker 2: a different kind of recruiting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's one of those things where like does
Speaker 1: u AB have an insurance policy out against making a
Speaker 1: bowl game? Like are they betting against Rachel Phelps style? Right?
Speaker 1: Like that that's the concern for me where it's just like,
Speaker 1: this is it's an unserious hire when especially when you
Speaker 1: look around the sport and you look like, okay, you
Speaker 1: don't want to spend a ton of money. You look
Speaker 1: at like D two coaches, you look at FCS coaches,
Speaker 1: you look at whatever, you know, coordinators at certain places
Speaker 1: that are just killing it. Right, even in the state
Speaker 1: in Troy, it's just and he's not even if you
Speaker 1: go back to like Gus Malson, and Gus Malson came
Speaker 1: in as an offensive coordinator, not a head coach, but
Speaker 1: he came in so connected within that state, right he
Speaker 1: was at Springdale and you know the Mitch Mustanine thing
Speaker 1: in the Springdale mafia where you're just like oh my god,
Speaker 1: he is a name within this state, within this It
Speaker 1: didn't work out. It We went terribly at Arkansas and
Speaker 1: he needed to go to Tulsa for a few years
Speaker 1: before in the Arkansas state gig. But like on the surface,
Speaker 1: it's just like oh man.
Speaker 2: Splash, all right, all right, enough about Trent Dilferd. Will
Speaker 2: see how that goes in I guess less prominent coaching news.
Speaker 2: Kentucky fired Rich scan Guerrello after one season. Notably, he
Speaker 2: stepped in for Liam Cohen. Of course, was a revelation
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one he left to go to the Rams.
Speaker 2: They brought in Scangerello. He is gone. Northwestern has fired
Speaker 2: Jim O'Neill and two other assistants following their just one
Speaker 2: and eleven disaster season. It is worth noting Dan that
Speaker 2: the defense was the best part of Northwestern this season,
Speaker 2: and they were ranked seventy second nationally per the sp Plus.
Speaker 2: So I know one of the two assistants that was
Speaker 2: relieved of command was a wide receivers coach. They clearly
Speaker 2: have much more work to do on the offensive side
Speaker 2: of the ball. I eagerly await what Pat Fitzgerald will
Speaker 2: do to hopefully amend that side of things he's.
Speaker 1: Been working on for about fourteen years. See Project Big.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a big fixer upper. Dan. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: you know, there's the three game stretch of Clayton Thorson
Speaker 1: here and Dan Person there and Trevor Simeon for like
Speaker 1: four and a half like okay, okay, any other coaching news.
Speaker 2: That's all I have the coaching show. That's all having
Speaker 2: the coaching front. I do have transfer portal news. Who
Speaker 2: want to get into that, I would love to. We
Speaker 2: got a bunch of names here, some that have been confirmed,
Speaker 2: others that have been reported. There is a zero percent
Speaker 2: chance I'm going to get all of these, So let
Speaker 2: me just list them off as best I can, and
Speaker 2: you can jump in and tell me if there's anyone
Speaker 2: else of note. On the quarterback side, where of course
Speaker 2: I have trained most of my attention notre name again
Speaker 2: open for business. We've got Hudson Card from Texas, Mali
Speaker 2: Hornsby from Arkansas, Connor.
Speaker 1: Basil act back in the portal, Yea from.
Speaker 2: Indiana, Luke Altmeyer from Old Miss. The Padilla flotilla, Yeah,
Speaker 2: trying to escape from Iowa City in the portal, Cade
Speaker 2: McNamara whom we mentioned before for playoff quarterback playoff quarterback,
Speaker 2: Paul Tyson leaving ASU, Jeff Simms this I think we
Speaker 2: talked about Jeff Simms before, but Jeff Simms leaving Georgia Tech.
Speaker 2: Davis Brent an interesting name from Tulsa quarterback also in
Speaker 2: the portal, Jack Tuttle and Hank Bachmeyer have been there
Speaker 2: for a while, but I just saw their names as
Speaker 2: I was going through and figured out list them anyway.
Speaker 2: On the running back side, L. J. Johnston from A
Speaker 2: and M is an interesting name. Trevi and Cooley from Louisville,
Speaker 2: Arlen Harris Junior from Stanford and Trey Sanders again has
Speaker 2: been in the portal for a bit, but Tray Sanders
Speaker 2: leaving Alabama could make an impact elsewhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: On the wide receiver side, some names theo OEZ. I
Speaker 2: haven't seen his name officially in the portal, but it
Speaker 2: seems as if he's headed there from Oklahoma. Your boy
Speaker 2: Dante Thornton from Oregon in the portal Dominic love it
Speaker 2: from Missoo and two names here again just we always
Speaker 2: try to keep our radar up for names of guys
Speaker 2: from group of five or f CS programs that are
Speaker 2: looking to go elsewhere. Grant Deboe's is a name from
Speaker 2: Charlotte who I think could make an impact.
Speaker 3: And MJ.
Speaker 1: Wright.
Speaker 2: He's not the Greek freak from Fordham, but he is
Speaker 2: from Fordham, yes, and looking to spread his wings elsewhere.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there are names I missed. I don't know
Speaker 2: if any jump out to you, but those are at
Speaker 2: least a sampling of what's out there in the portal
Speaker 2: at the moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I saw Penn had an edge rusher who seemed
Speaker 1: to be somewhat coveted by bigger programs, and he committed
Speaker 1: to UCLA. I want to say his first name is Jake.
Speaker 1: I apologize for not learning IVY League transfer as yet.
Speaker 1: They're for full names. I'm almost positive it's Jake.
Speaker 2: Sure, I'm not one hundred per He's like Pele, he
Speaker 2: doesn't need a last name.
Speaker 1: I think both Dominic Lovett and Dante Thornton are interesting
Speaker 1: names at receiver. Thornton actually came on pretty strong near
Speaker 1: the end of this year when Chase Coda got hurt
Speaker 1: for Orion. He's a big body, He's from the East Coast.
Speaker 1: He's from I think the Baltimore area and so he
Speaker 1: could come in and be like the guy for a
Speaker 1: good school to me. Also lost Byron Cardwell, who started
Speaker 1: at running back near the end of the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: one season when CJ. Verdell went down and basically didn't
Speaker 1: play this year at all, and Oregon had the number
Speaker 1: one rushing attack in the country. So not saying he's bad,
Speaker 1: but for whatever reason, fell out of favor with the
Speaker 1: Oregon coaches. Otherwise, it's going to be fascinating, especially at quarterback.
Speaker 1: Right Hudson card appears to be the biggest name. He
Speaker 1: and Kate McNamara, depending on where they land, seem like
Speaker 1: they'll have the biggest impact. There's already and I'm not
Speaker 1: going to give fuel to the rumors, but there's already
Speaker 1: rumors about some pretty big name receivers ending up at
Speaker 1: some pretty big name destinations for receivers. And so it's
Speaker 1: the new normal. And you can either yell and kick
Speaker 1: and scream about it, or you can say, all right,
Speaker 1: let's figure all it all out for next year, and
Speaker 1: once everybody's landed, let's see who really added to their
Speaker 1: roster and who seems to be in a kind of
Speaker 1: disastrous place because as they're depleted. So I expect a
Speaker 1: lot of big teams, especially big teams who are finishing
Speaker 1: the first year of a new coach, so LSU, Florida,
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, Miami, Oregon, Oklahoma, USC, a lot of movement.
Speaker 1: I just expect a lot because there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot of guys who felt like they were going to
Speaker 1: contribute more than they had under the previous guy, so
Speaker 1: they gave the new guy a chance and then perhaps
Speaker 1: didn't see the field as much as they they wanted to,
Speaker 1: and they're like, all right, I gave him a chance.
Speaker 1: Portal time, it's going to be a whirlwind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it'll be very intense. By the way,
Speaker 2: folks head on a swivel out there, the new age
Speaker 2: of Twitter has made it very easy to retweet potential
Speaker 2: transfers that are not actually transferring. I've seen a couple
Speaker 2: already and I almost fell for it myself. Head on
Speaker 2: a swivel, Head on a swivel. Make sure you know
Speaker 2: the source.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: We will keep you posted as best we can on
Speaker 2: the coaching side, on the transfer portal side, for sure,
Speaker 2: A lot more to come in both of those worlds.
Speaker 2: Don't really have a Saturday nickname dan Championship Week, right,
Speaker 2: we don't need a nick correct it's Championship week and
Speaker 2: it's US Netherlands. Are they playing USA Netherlands. Yeah, I'll
Speaker 2: be back in time for the ten a m.
Speaker 3: Game. I can give a preview at the end of
Speaker 3: this if you want at the end.
Speaker 1: At the end, I'm prepared to big, big day of
Speaker 1: sporting across the United States. Daunt of the week. So
Speaker 1: typically what we do op sausage fingers McGee.
Speaker 3: The second time that happened, I don't know what's wrong
Speaker 3: with my board.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Typically what we do is we push the Friday game
Speaker 2: till the very end, so that if you're listening to
Speaker 2: this a little bit after the fact, it's not going
Speaker 2: to go stale. But we're just going to do it
Speaker 2: in chronological order today. Yeah, if that's cool with you. Again,
Speaker 2: we will be in Atlanta watching this game or Atlanta
Speaker 2: excuse me, game at some place near Georgia Tech. I
Speaker 2: will leave that up to you to figure out where
Speaker 2: the best place is for tenders with tie in a
Speaker 2: PAC twelve Championship watch party. This game is eight pm
Speaker 2: on Fox. It is in Allegiance Stadium in Vegas, featuring
Speaker 2: the nine to three Utah Utes the eleven to one
Speaker 2: USC Trojans, USC favored by three. Bear in mind that
Speaker 2: these teams played back in Week seven in Utah and
Speaker 2: it was about as evenly matched a game as we've
Speaker 2: seen all year. That was the one in which Cam
Speaker 2: Rising had a really big game through the air and
Speaker 2: on the ground. He ran a touchdown in with about
Speaker 2: forty eight seconds left. Dan and then Kyle Whittingham went
Speaker 2: for two. Love it, love it, the anti Brian Harrison move,
Speaker 2: went for two. They got it. Utah won that game
Speaker 2: by a forty three to forty two score. Was a
Speaker 2: great game, a great game USC's only lost, so this
Speaker 2: is an opportunity for them to avenge that big old
Speaker 2: crooked one in the win loss column. I'm not going
Speaker 2: to act like I found anything, like I found a
Speaker 2: stat like I found an edge or something that gives
Speaker 2: one team a significant advantage over the other. I feel
Speaker 2: like we have a pretty good sense for who these
Speaker 2: teams are at this point. It feels a lot to me,
Speaker 2: and we say it often. I'm not just punting on
Speaker 2: the preview here when I say this, but it truly
Speaker 2: feels like, whoever has the ball ass is going to
Speaker 2: win this thing?
Speaker 1: Do you think so?
Speaker 3: I do? I do?
Speaker 2: It feels to me like it's that kind of game.
Speaker 2: Both teams have pretty good offenses. Obviously USC's is a
Speaker 2: little better. Utah probably has a bit of an advantage
Speaker 2: in the defense department, but it's not like we're dealing
Speaker 2: with two shutdown defenses here. I think both will continue
Speaker 2: to move the ball at will on the other and
Speaker 2: it does come down to probably a few factors which
Speaker 2: maybe I can discuss here and why I'm going to
Speaker 2: go USC thirty eight thirty five agreed, disagree on that
Speaker 2: sentiment that whoever as the ball ass wins?
Speaker 1: Disagree?
Speaker 3: Okay, why I like USC here?
Speaker 1: And this is where we get into the part of
Speaker 1: the year where we describe Winter one people that transcend
Speaker 1: just being weapons during the regular season and become problems,
Speaker 1: especially for defenses. But I think a winter wonder could
Speaker 1: be an edg rusher or something like that. And the
Speaker 1: way that Aiden Hutchinson right when the Blights got brightest
Speaker 1: last year, Aiden Hutchinson really shined that to me is
Speaker 1: the problem with Utah is what we saw from USC
Speaker 1: last week against Notre Dame, a team all too dependent
Speaker 1: on a tight end. USC absorbed a lot from Michael Mayor.
Speaker 1: He made plays. He didn't have two hundred and seventy
Speaker 1: three yards receiving or whatever it is that Dalton Kincaid
Speaker 1: did in that first matchup. Who's excellent, full on excellent
Speaker 1: on the level of Michael Mayer in terms of national
Speaker 1: tight ends. He is in any conversation. The problem to
Speaker 1: me is games are one preventing and generating explosive plays,
Speaker 1: and Utah has played a number of terrible defenses and
Speaker 1: a below average one in Oregon to finish out the
Speaker 1: back half of the season. And so to me, this
Speaker 1: is when you have Jordan Addison and Mario Williams now
Speaker 1: Travis Dye had a good game against Utah, he's for
Speaker 1: the year. I think he blew out his knee and
Speaker 1: that's a change. But at a certain point, if Utah
Speaker 1: can't go Haymaker for Haymaker with USC, which I don't
Speaker 1: think they can do this week, I think they did
Speaker 1: a great job doing it before Tavian Thomas out for
Speaker 1: the year, has already declared for the NFL Draft. I
Speaker 1: believe so Utah shorthanded in the backfield. I think Michael
Speaker 1: Bernard is interesting, but he's not somebody who is going
Speaker 1: to pace a win to me for Utah in this matchup.
Speaker 1: So I think Utah will succeed somewhat on defense. They're
Speaker 1: down their best edge rusher, he's out for the year
Speaker 1: Van Fillinger. So I think Utah is a good team,
Speaker 1: but I think this is a when push comes to
Speaker 1: shove moment and USC wins this game by ten to
Speaker 1: thirteen points.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you stole a little bit of my
Speaker 2: thunder there, but I'm sorry, No, it's okay.
Speaker 1: I agree with you.
Speaker 2: It's one of the two reasons of picking USC. You
Speaker 2: mentioned the big plays, and USC's ability to create him
Speaker 2: is one of those things that favors the Trojans by
Speaker 2: a pretty wide margin.
Speaker 1: In this game.
Speaker 2: They're much much, much more consistent at creating those chunk plays,
Speaker 2: and I have to believe that works to their advantage,
Speaker 2: even though they're really bad at giving them up right,
Speaker 2: they're just so good at creating them. On offense, They've
Speaker 2: got so many pieces, so many ways that they can
Speaker 2: beat you. It's hard for me to believe that in
Speaker 2: a big spot that if you want to say the
Speaker 2: Winter wonder thing.
Speaker 3: Go right ahead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a hard time believing that isn't something
Speaker 2: that works to their advantage in this game second time through.
Speaker 2: So that's the first reason. The second is, you know,
Speaker 2: we come back to Caleb Williams a lot. I feel
Speaker 2: like he went next level with Notre Dame. In the
Speaker 2: game that we saw against Notre Dame this year, we
Speaker 2: saw a different side of him against a better defense
Speaker 2: with this offense than we had all season. Maybe I'm
Speaker 2: biased because it was against Notre Dame, but he's just
Speaker 2: he's different, he feels different. Three eighty one and five
Speaker 2: touchdowns in the first matchup between these two, also fifty
Speaker 2: seven yards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was awesome. He was really good, really good
Speaker 1: in that first game.
Speaker 2: And if if it comes down to it, push comes
Speaker 2: to shove, I give Caleb Williams the nod here in
Speaker 2: that USC offense the nod in a game that I
Speaker 2: think will be high scoring. So I think it's close.
Speaker 2: I think these teams are very eavily matched, but I
Speaker 2: will go with our trusted excitable score of thirty eight
Speaker 2: to thirty five in favor of USC.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The idea is, if you are able to hold
Speaker 1: Dalton Kinkaid to ninety three yards and some incredible catches,
Speaker 1: maybe two touchdown catches and ninety three yards, it's still
Speaker 1: not enough to get to forty. Right, Like, there's a
Speaker 1: certain basic amount of arithmetic involved here that I don't
Speaker 1: think I trust Utah in this spot.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: I watched them completely demolish Oregon in this spot last year.
Speaker 1: I think that was a different team. I think that
Speaker 1: was a different team, especially on defense with what they lost,
Speaker 1: especially upfront. It just has not been the typical Utah
Speaker 1: defense that we've seen that helps its own offense to
Speaker 1: wear down teams on the ground. And Cam Rising scrambling
Speaker 1: for seven on third and six, he will do that.
Speaker 1: I just don't think you can beat USC with pickleball.
Speaker 1: To me, is where UTI is at offensively. So I'm
Speaker 1: going to give USC the edge. Also, in you the
Speaker 1: biggest game of the back half of the season, Cam
Speaker 1: Rising turn the ball over multiple times, and that's what
Speaker 1: USC does. Their whole defense is not based around filling
Speaker 1: lanes and getting stops. It's built around flipping the field
Speaker 1: with opportunistic moments, and so I think it's just stacked
Speaker 1: up against Utah this week. So I'm giving the nod.
Speaker 2: To this, we agree, all right, let's go to Saturday here, Yes,
Speaker 2: high noon, Doctor Pepper Big twelve Championship. But we get
Speaker 2: in a tuition throw this week, I would assume, So
Speaker 2: all right, more to come on that we can't really
Speaker 2: preview it. We don't know much about the participants, but
Speaker 2: we will have a full breakdown when we do the
Speaker 2: Sunday recap show, which by the way, will be a
Speaker 2: little bit later. I presume we need to wait and
Speaker 2: see what the rankings are and what the bowl matchups
Speaker 2: are before we go live. So more to come on
Speaker 2: that go to forballers dot com if you're ever so inclined.
Speaker 1: If you want to get early access.
Speaker 2: To that show, maybe watch it live as we do it,
Speaker 2: but stay tuned on Sunday. This is an AT and
Speaker 2: T Stadium in Arlington. It's Case State, It's TCU. TCU
Speaker 2: favored by two and a half points. These teams also played.
Speaker 2: It's another rematch. Case State jumped out to an early
Speaker 2: twenty eight to ten lead back in Week eight. They
Speaker 2: led midway through the second quarter, Dan then they never
Speaker 2: scored again from that point forward. It was punt, miss
Speaker 2: field goal, interception downs, miss field goal, interception. That was
Speaker 2: the ballgame TCU ripped off twenty eight unanswered. They won
Speaker 2: that game by a thirty eight twenty eight margin. Really
Speaker 2: impressive showing, I thought for TCU they never really lost
Speaker 2: their cool despite being in the hole early. They just
Speaker 2: kind of did their thing and found their way through.
Speaker 3: What I was sort of hung up.
Speaker 2: On here looking back on this thing is and we
Speaker 2: do this with every rematch, right, we have to ask
Speaker 2: what's changed since the last game, what has changed to
Speaker 2: impact the way we feel about this one. Obviously TCU
Speaker 2: hasn't lost, they haven't lost at all. Case State did
Speaker 2: drop a game to Texas, though it feels to me
Speaker 2: like they're better now than they were back in Well.
Speaker 1: That was an Adrew Martinez game.
Speaker 2: Was as Adrian Martinez thing. Yeah, so it's Case State's
Speaker 2: just in a different place than they were back then.
Speaker 2: Certainly more stable at quarterback now that they've got Will
Speaker 2: Howard in there as their QB one, I don't expect
Speaker 2: them to be as mistake prone this time around. I
Speaker 2: think they'll be a little bit more buttoned up, they'll
Speaker 2: be more locked in. So perhaps that's something that we
Speaker 2: can consider here as we talk through this. But I
Speaker 2: also come back to the big play thing with respect
Speaker 2: to this game. TCU creates more of them. They create
Speaker 2: more of them high leverage spots. We've seen it all
Speaker 2: season long. This game, this moment, I don't think is
Speaker 2: too big for TCU because they've been in a bunch
Speaker 2: of nail biers this season already. They are more battle tested.
Speaker 2: You could argue a much more veteran unit than Can's State.
Speaker 2: I think they are in prime position to grind this
Speaker 2: one out. I don't think it's a blowout by any stretch.
Speaker 2: I think Case State will be up for it. I
Speaker 2: don't think they'll make the mistakes. As a first game,
Speaker 2: I got something like thirty one to twenty seven TCU getting.
Speaker 3: The job done.
Speaker 1: I have TCU covering this spread as well, and maybe
Speaker 1: even by more points, by seven to fourteen somewhere in
Speaker 1: that like flirting with a double digit win. Here one,
Speaker 1: you have the Winter wonder thing in terms of consistency
Speaker 1: at receiver. If Quentin Johnston's health is in a good place,
Speaker 1: I saw that. You know, you don't trust coaches and
Speaker 1: what they say about practice reports, but you know he
Speaker 1: looks like he looks better than he has for the
Speaker 1: last month, right, he hurt his ankle and he's been
Speaker 1: in and out of the lineup, so he's obviously somebody
Speaker 1: who can take the top off of a defense. Tay
Speaker 1: Barber is a big play guy. We know about Kendre Miller.
Speaker 1: There's a lot about the weaponry on an offense coached
Speaker 1: by an offensive mind led by, weirdly, the best quarterback
Speaker 1: in the Big Twelve against the second best quarterback in
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve. My got it? End of twenty twenty
Speaker 1: you're like, hey, quick, little sneak prieve about twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: Will Howard and Max Duggan are the clear two best
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the conference and are going to play against
Speaker 1: each other in the conference championship game. You would have
Speaker 1: a number of questions, and I have some answers. They
Speaker 1: got better. I don't see that level. I think Malik
Speaker 1: Knowles is very good. I obviously think duce Vaughan is
Speaker 1: very good. But Case State was not an incredible rushing team.
Speaker 1: They have an incredible rushing talent who is able to
Speaker 1: generate bigger plays, but they weren't super consistent. It wasn't
Speaker 1: like duce Vaughan could put this team on his back.
Speaker 1: And say I'm going to grind out five yards of
Speaker 1: carry when everybody knows it's coming. That's the issue for
Speaker 1: me is that he's not a change of pace guy,
Speaker 1: but he's just a very specific back and just an
Speaker 1: incredible all purpose guy out of the backfield catching the
Speaker 1: ball as well. But it's just who terrifies you from
Speaker 1: this Kansas State offense. I think Will Howard's ascension is
Speaker 1: pretty terrifying if you're on the TCU defense. But this
Speaker 1: is also a unit who is pretty dramatically improved over
Speaker 1: the course of the season. Or in the case of
Speaker 1: this matchup, they gave up zero points in the second half,
Speaker 1: is that true when they first played? So they did
Speaker 1: a terrific job adjusting to what Kansas State was intending
Speaker 1: to do on offense. And this is at a certain point,
Speaker 1: it's not luck, right if we're going to sort of
Speaker 1: use the term lro luck running out, it's not luck
Speaker 1: when you're able to win in a number of ways,
Speaker 1: when you're able to go to Austin when game day
Speaker 1: is there and completely prevent that Texas offense from doing
Speaker 1: anything zero offensive touchdowns, if memory serves, I think it
Speaker 1: speaks to maturity. I think it speaks to evolution, and
Speaker 1: I just think this TCU team is better. And I'm mister,
Speaker 1: before the season started, I was much more enamored with
Speaker 1: Kansas State than you were. And I think the story
Speaker 1: of Kansas State has been terrific this year. But this
Speaker 1: is another who's got the bright shining stars. Who do
Speaker 1: you trust more to get open in a three point
Speaker 1: game when there's a minute and a half left. To me,
Speaker 1: it's TCU's assembled offensive talents a little more than Kansas
Speaker 1: It's about trust, babe.
Speaker 2: It's the wise prophet Ashanti. Yeah right, And on some level, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is just who TCU is. They are battle tested,
Speaker 2: They grind these games out. They've been good at being
Speaker 2: in these spots all year. I'm sure if they had
Speaker 2: their druthers, Dan, they wouldn't want to be in close
Speaker 2: games having to come from behind, but they've been very
Speaker 2: good at doing that. And on top of it all,
Speaker 2: you know, you talk about Case State being a good
Speaker 2: story this season, they have. We've just sort of gotten
Speaker 2: to the point now with TCU where we're just kind
Speaker 2: of glossing over the fact that they're twelve and oh
Speaker 2: with a first year head coach on the heels of
Speaker 2: whatever went on at the end of the Gary Patterson era.
Speaker 2: Talk about good stories this season, you got to include
Speaker 2: TCU in that conversation. There's no two ways about it.
Speaker 2: I really like their chances here. I really like their
Speaker 2: chances here to finish the job, and I hope for
Speaker 2: their sake and their fans that they're able to do so,
Speaker 2: you know, they ride here.
Speaker 1: Gimme, okay, thought experiment, What is the score of a
Speaker 1: Kansas State win? And this is you know, you're you're
Speaker 1: predicting boom shack Laca Coregan and his crew right now.
Speaker 1: What is the score by which Kansas State wins this game?
Speaker 1: That forces the Committee's hand to say, well, a ton
Speaker 1: more people are going to watch Ohio State against Georgia
Speaker 1: or whoever in the playoff. And while we love what
Speaker 1: TCU was able to do this year, for sure, them
Speaker 1: losing thirty five to fourteen to Kansas State makes it
Speaker 1: very difficult for us to pick TCU a non conference champion,
Speaker 1: Whereas we feel that Michigan might be the best team
Speaker 1: in the country and Ohio you know, suddenly you're doing
Speaker 1: you know, the Rube Goldberg machine to talk yourself into
Speaker 1: Ohio State.
Speaker 2: We Ohio State lost by what twenty two to twenty
Speaker 2: three points? So is it fourteen? Is it fourteen? Is
Speaker 2: case State winning like thirty eight twenty four? It might
Speaker 2: be one point, it might be twenty four to twenty two.
Speaker 3: I hope it's not. But yeah, I don't think you're wrong.
Speaker 1: There is something to me. And this is the the
Speaker 1: cynical part of all of our brains, yep, that the
Speaker 1: playoff is a television program and there are four hundred
Speaker 1: and forty two TCU alumni a live in America right now.
Speaker 1: That's the issue, and it's unfair, it's bs. But that's
Speaker 1: the cynical part of my brain that the margin for
Speaker 1: error and the bar that needs to be cleared for
Speaker 1: TCU I think continues.
Speaker 2: To be higher unfairly. But that's where we are. All right,
Speaker 2: let's go to four pm. We agree again. By the way,
Speaker 2: four pm CBS. This is the SEC game. They played
Speaker 2: at Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: A good job, thank you.
Speaker 2: We will be there against Sliver, butle live the day before.
Speaker 2: If you're going to be in town, come on out,
Speaker 2: see us, shake our hand, watch the PAC twelve game
Speaker 2: with us. Wherever we go parts unknown after the show,
Speaker 2: Show After the show, LSU at nine and three, Georgia
Speaker 2: at twelve and oh Georgia favor by seventeen and one
Speaker 2: half points.
Speaker 3: Dan.
Speaker 2: These teams did not play during the regular season, and
Speaker 2: of course until last week, it looked like LSU may
Speaker 2: have had an outside shot at the playoff, but you know,
Speaker 2: they drop a third game on the road to a
Speaker 2: five and seven A and M team that pretty much
Speaker 2: killed it. Those chances are pretty much down the drain now,
Speaker 2: still a lot to play for, and I think we
Speaker 2: would both agree that on some level LSU is a
Speaker 2: dangerous team, especially in a situation like this where folks
Speaker 2: are already counting them out sight unseen. What are your thoughts,
Speaker 2: Here's what's your read. Does LSU have a shot?
Speaker 1: LS who has a shot? Just because they're not playing
Speaker 1: for anything? So there's like this element of danger with
Speaker 1: LS a good coach and Brian Kelly when healthy. They
Speaker 1: have a very good quarterback in Jade Daniels, They've got
Speaker 1: some scary people up front on defense, and they have
Speaker 1: playmakers on both sides of the ball. Georgia is not
Speaker 1: where they were last year, the way they separated themselves
Speaker 1: from everybody at least leading up to the you know,
Speaker 1: the SEC Championship game that they lost Alabama in. That's
Speaker 1: the danger with LSU. The other danger is there's a
Speaker 1: two word term that I hate seeing leading up to
Speaker 1: the game with a quarterback, and that's walking boot. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: with Jane Daniels's ankle, yes, brained ankle. And so it's
Speaker 1: concerning to me to see those two very specific words
Speaker 1: when he is responsible for so much of that offense,
Speaker 1: not just throwing the ball, not just running the ball,
Speaker 1: but buying himself time, rallying the team, big moments, scram like.
Speaker 1: It's just he's the heartbeat of this team. He's the Zerbiak,
Speaker 1: as we like to say, if you remember while he's
Speaker 1: erbiak being responsible for like seventy seven percent of his
Speaker 1: team's points at Miami Ohio. That's the concern to me
Speaker 1: that any LSU victory very specifically glows through goes through
Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels. And what Georgia has done this year is
Speaker 1: they've been ruthless on offense, albeit not as incredible at
Speaker 1: times because their loss of talent from last year. That's
Speaker 1: more pronounced on defense, but they've come out of the
Speaker 1: gate so strong, and I just don't know if I
Speaker 1: love this LSU team playing from behind. If all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, Jadan Daniel needs to throw it fifty three
Speaker 1: times against Georgia, like, I think there is a very
Speaker 1: specific like, if you're able to throw the ball only
Speaker 1: thirty four times against Georgia, it probably means you're having
Speaker 1: some success on the ground against his bulldog team, which
Speaker 1: not many teams do. I just it's hard for me
Speaker 1: to construct this win knowing Jaden Daniels is, even if
Speaker 1: he's eighty ninety percent whatever he is, needs so much.
Speaker 1: We saw the most explosive offense in the country become
Speaker 1: completely grounded against this Georgia team. And the games in Atlanta,
Speaker 1: games not in Dallas, games not in Chicago, games on
Speaker 1: in Seattle. It's gonna be a ferocious home crowd for
Speaker 1: the Dogs, and I just think there's too much speed
Speaker 1: and there's too much opportunity for Georgia here. So I
Speaker 1: have them winning by and also LSU limping into this
Speaker 1: game after the A and M game.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think it's at least two touchdowns for the Dogs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think I'm with you on paper,
Speaker 2: This looks like a pretty good mismatch for obvious reasons.
Speaker 2: We can get into that, But to me, the LSU
Speaker 2: story is very much that of an unfinished product. A
Speaker 2: good product, yeah, a good product that is getting better.
Speaker 2: Jadan Daniels just started coming into his own second half
Speaker 2: of the season, but Tigers aren't quite there yet. You
Speaker 2: can see the pieces, you can see an assembling for
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three and beyond, and I think it won't
Speaker 2: be long before Brian Kelly has this thing fully optimized
Speaker 2: and tuned up and really to go and to push
Speaker 2: forward as a true contender. But it's it's just not
Speaker 2: there yet. The numbers say that Georgia can run an LSU,
Speaker 2: and in general, if Georgia can run on you, that's
Speaker 2: kind of the flywheel for the rest of the operation.
Speaker 2: You know, it makes it easier to pass. You can
Speaker 2: create different looks, you can use motion, you can create
Speaker 2: mismatches down the field. That's my biggest concern. Also, you
Speaker 2: keep the defense on the field, keep the defense on
Speaker 2: the field, you keep wearing them down. And by the way,
Speaker 2: none of this is anything new. This isn't rocket science.
Speaker 2: If you've watched Georgia football, this is the way they
Speaker 2: beat everybody. It's a concern against literally all of George's opponents, Right,
Speaker 2: how are they going to deal with Georgia upfront?
Speaker 1: And as they start grinding you down on defense?
Speaker 2: So you know, you'll hear a lot about Jayde Daniels
Speaker 2: this week in the Boot, and he's a great story.
Speaker 1: The team trusts him.
Speaker 2: I was very wrong about the quarterback position this season
Speaker 2: for lsu Mia Kalpa right had a huge dove for
Speaker 2: Brian Kelly in any sense of the word. But I
Speaker 2: don't like the scenario in which Georgia can run on
Speaker 2: you and your offense is basically a one man army, right,
Speaker 2: you know, Jane Daniels, one man army with the boot
Speaker 2: trying to solve the Georgia defense does not seem like
Speaker 2: a great setup to me. They've got playmakers, right. I
Speaker 2: don't want to disparage Josh Williams or Malik Neighbors or
Speaker 2: kashn Booty or I mean like they've got playmakers, but
Speaker 2: it just feels a lot like it's gonna be Jane
Speaker 2: Daniels out there trying to solve this thing.
Speaker 1: And I don't like that at all. That's a bad
Speaker 1: matchup for me.
Speaker 2: I'm on the dogs here. I could see this being
Speaker 2: one of those games where LSU hit something early before
Speaker 2: Georgia settles into the game. We've seen that, right, that
Speaker 2: wouldn't be a new thing. But crock potting the rest
Speaker 2: of the way. Crock potting the rest of the way.
Speaker 1: Who's the team that you think has the best chance
Speaker 1: to be Georgia this year? Who is built constructed, has
Speaker 1: the ability to win in different ways. If the runs
Speaker 1: taken away, if the pass is taken away, that they
Speaker 1: can get to Stetson Bentley. Who is that team?
Speaker 3: I mean, is it Michigan?
Speaker 1: I think it's the best of Ohio State? Unfortunately?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Or USC?
Speaker 2: I mean USC could be an interesting matchup because of
Speaker 2: the offense.
Speaker 1: But if that game comes down to a twenty seventeen
Speaker 1: type back and forth, you trust USC. No no I. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: we don't live in a universe which the best of
Speaker 1: Ohio State exists every week. But if you're talking to
Speaker 1: me about playmakers up front on defense and quarterback as
Speaker 1: being the keys to winning the national championship, the best
Speaker 1: of Ohio State, which again doesn't really exist against the
Speaker 1: best teams they play, I mean they played Penn State
Speaker 1: really really well and they broke that open at the
Speaker 1: end of the game. That's the closest thing to me, Well,
Speaker 1: that is a threat because nobody else as that. Nobody
Speaker 1: else has JT. Tuamalu and CJ. Stroud.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, this is not twenty twenty one,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1: It feels like there is a.
Speaker 2: Lack of greatness when we talk about these teams.
Speaker 1: They're very good.
Speaker 2: Georgia and Michigan I think far and away are the
Speaker 2: best two teams right now. But each of those teams
Speaker 2: is beatable. On any given day, they're beatable, and it
Speaker 2: is not like last season where it felt like we
Speaker 2: had infallible teams right at the top. Could USC be
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: LSU, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: They've got the generational quarterback. We'll see what they can
Speaker 2: do against a really, really good defense.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I would have a conversation about Alabama
Speaker 1: just because nobody is I mean, besides Caleb Williams, is
Speaker 1: what Bryce Young is in terms of rabbit out of
Speaker 1: hat And they also have, you know, great edge rusher
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, But just the defense and two
Speaker 1: all over the place as a whole that I don't
Speaker 1: know if I fully trust them. But still, you know,
Speaker 1: Will Anderson and Bryce Young, I'm willing to have that conversation,
Speaker 1: but right now, no, there's nobody obvious that, like, we
Speaker 1: know Bryce Young can meet the moment. Sure, we don't
Speaker 1: know that about c J. Stroud. I don't know if
Speaker 1: we know that about JJ McCarthy. But I think I
Speaker 1: trust CJ. Stroud a little bit more to win in
Speaker 1: a number of ways. But it's we just don't live
Speaker 1: in that universe.
Speaker 3: So I don't know, No, I don't know.
Speaker 2: We could have some interesting playoff conversations here when we
Speaker 2: get the final matchups. The USC matchup with Georgia is
Speaker 2: one that intrigues me. It feels a lot like the
Speaker 2: Tennessee game. So maybe not as intrigued as I say
Speaker 2: now here in week fourteen when the Rubber meets the road,
Speaker 2: but we'll get to that. I'm on Georgia thirty five seventeen.
Speaker 2: I think the number the points breads seventeen and a
Speaker 2: half's right around the correct.
Speaker 1: One nineteen and a half.
Speaker 2: Holy hell, big number. Yeah, it's number thirty five seventeen
Speaker 2: is my.
Speaker 1: Final My other wild card Is Brady Cook and Mazoo
Speaker 1: because they've already shown in that's all right, Let's go
Speaker 1: to eight pm on Fox the Big Ten Championship game.
Speaker 2: Two teams that have not played this season either. It
Speaker 2: is eight and four Perdue. It is twelve to Oho Michigan,
Speaker 2: another big line. Michigan favored by sixteen points.
Speaker 3: Stan.
Speaker 2: I've seen this one jump around anywhere from sixteen to seventeen.
Speaker 2: A high probability here that we've got to blowout. And
Speaker 2: I say that for a couple reasons. First Off, you know,
Speaker 2: Perdue's defense is not terrible against the run. However, they
Speaker 2: definitely profile as a team that will get pushed around
Speaker 2: up front and eventually give up some long runs. And
Speaker 2: that's basically the way Michigan beats you everyone. They've played right,
Speaker 2: grind down the defensive line, pop up with that pinata
Speaker 2: play late. Yeah, we saw it last week with Donovan Edwards.
Speaker 2: We had this two long touchdown runs late with one arm,
Speaker 2: with one arm. The same holds true against the pass.
Speaker 2: Purdue's defense not bad against the pass, but they do
Speaker 2: give up big plays, so there's potential there for this
Speaker 2: thing to get out of hand late. Also, the dirty
Speaker 2: secret on Purdue.
Speaker 1: Is the offense all that good? Do we think the
Speaker 1: offense at Purdue is really that good? I think they've
Speaker 1: gotten a little bit better in terms of appearing to
Speaker 1: be more complete. Yeah, you got your guy, Chuck Sizzle.
Speaker 1: Chuck Sizzle, we got I believe look Ivkaby. I'm not
Speaker 1: anti Purdue, but I think what a lot of people
Speaker 1: think of Purdue. They think, Okay, they're gonna air it out,
Speaker 1: they're gonna score points for better or worreas a lot
Speaker 1: of people still think of Drew brees Perdue when they
Speaker 1: think of Purdue an offense. They've had the best offense
Speaker 1: in the Big Ten West, which is a little bit
Speaker 1: like being the one eyed man in the land of
Speaker 1: the blinde.
Speaker 2: But I don't know, like it's a lot of short stuff. Yep,
Speaker 2: it's a lot of not having popped down the field
Speaker 2: that'll get you to the Big Ten championship game. Right
Speaker 2: A O'Connell and Devin mackaby got into it, and am
Speaker 2: O'Connell's beat up too, and is beat up and Chuck
Speaker 2: Sizzle like all these guys are are good names and
Speaker 2: they've had a good season, But the offense is such
Speaker 2: that it'll get you to this game.
Speaker 1: It won't get you.
Speaker 3: Pass this game.
Speaker 2: It's not gonna get you past Michigan. So to me,
Speaker 2: this looks like the most blowout potential of any of
Speaker 2: these games, like forty one seventeen somewhere in that.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, we saw a similar situation with Michigan
Speaker 1: last year beating Ohio State, you know, breaking through in
Speaker 1: ann Arbor, and you're like, oh, man, is there let
Speaker 1: down potential against Iowa been forty two to three. So
Speaker 1: I just assume they're going to be locked in.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm going to this one up, by the way,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: I just I'm not I I can't construct it in
Speaker 1: my brain of you know, saying this is what happens
Speaker 1: for we're doing this freak occurrences that it's special teams,
Speaker 1: that it's busted plays, that it's Jeff Brahm wizardry or whatever.
Speaker 1: But it also doesn't feel like the kind of team, yeah,
Speaker 1: that Michigan will struggle with the kinds of teams that
Speaker 1: they've struggled with. You know, I guess Maryland early on
Speaker 1: going for it downfield. They've got better receivers than Purdue does,
Speaker 1: and Illinois who was able to get stops and force
Speaker 1: Michigan to you know, win the game four yards at
Speaker 1: a time with Jake Moody, I just don't think that
Speaker 1: is that is where we land with the Purdue experience.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I have Michigan big yeah.
Speaker 2: All right, Well let's go to then the final Power
Speaker 2: five championship game. Then we're going to talk very quickly
Speaker 2: about some of the others that you know, weren't mentioning.
Speaker 2: We have to mention all of them. This one eight PM.
Speaker 2: It's the Subway ACC Championship. Gave Subway getting in on
Speaker 2: the action. Dan, I don't know.
Speaker 1: The last time I went to subway. The reason I
Speaker 1: don't go to subway, among others, is that, yeah, wah wah.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I have wahwak close by, but you
Speaker 2: go into a subway and your clothes smell like you
Speaker 2: were at a subway. Oh man, can't wash that out
Speaker 2: of the jacket.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: My first radio show in college was above a subway
Speaker 1: in the Oregon Student Union.
Speaker 3: You can't wash that out, am.
Speaker 1: I to understand foot long subs are now like eleven dollars?
Speaker 1: Is that a thing?
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 1: I That's what I've been told, but I haven't been
Speaker 1: to a subway. I think subway is fine, but I
Speaker 1: just haven't been in.
Speaker 2: A long good five dollars foot longs back in my day, man,
Speaker 2: I remember, yeah, the halcyon days, five dollars foot long?
Speaker 1: What was your order? Not a sponsor could be, But
Speaker 1: did you have a subway order?
Speaker 2: Definitely not a sponsor could be. I mean I'm always
Speaker 2: big on the turkey sub you know me, straight turkey,
Speaker 2: I mean with toppings.
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: I load it up with with veggie toppings, but not
Speaker 2: not too creative from a sandwich architecture standpoint one.
Speaker 1: With a meatball sub, well, they're not bad, pretty good,
Speaker 1: all right? You want to talk Clemson, North Carolina or
Speaker 1: veggies and meats.
Speaker 2: Clemson ten and two a seven and a half point
Speaker 2: favorite against North Carolina nine and three. Again, these teams
Speaker 2: did not play during the regular season. Both have sort
Speaker 2: of limped to the finish in a sense. We had
Speaker 2: Clemson losing last week at home to South Carolina. The
Speaker 2: Tigers also lost earlier in the month to Notre Dame,
Speaker 2: a game in which they thoroughly were beaten on the ground.
Speaker 2: Just got the ground, Yeah, yeah, and then Carolina has
Speaker 2: lost two in a row, both at home to Georgia
Speaker 2: Tech and NC State in that rivalry game a week ago.
Speaker 2: I've got this one at like forty one, let's say
Speaker 2: forty one to twenty eight Clemson.
Speaker 1: I'm right there. Yeah, I hate, I hate doing this
Speaker 1: chalk thing. I favorites.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: I'm worried about both teams.
Speaker 3: For different reasons.
Speaker 2: My worries on the Clemson side stem from the quarterback
Speaker 2: insta mm hmm. And let's be honest, that's really not
Speaker 2: going to be a problem this weekend. That's not a
Speaker 2: problem when you play North Carolina.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I don't know. It's not a problem when Carolina.
Speaker 2: Whoever plays quarterback in this game is going to throw
Speaker 2: for like two point fifty three touchdowns and not really
Speaker 2: have much issue because that is who Carolina is as
Speaker 2: a defense. Clemson could also give the ball to Will
Speaker 2: Shipley thirty times and that'd be enough. Basically, it's create
Speaker 2: your own offense. It's whatever you want to do in
Speaker 2: this game will probably work and you will score forty
Speaker 2: points against Carolina. My other concern on the Clemson side
Speaker 2: that's probably more relevant here is the packet up packet
Speaker 2: in situation for the Tigers, and there's no stakes after Yeah,
Speaker 2: like before last week they had a shot at the playoff,
Speaker 2: and this would have been a one loss team with
Speaker 2: a primetime matchup with a game left to play, maybe
Speaker 2: an opportunity to impress the committee of things in front
Speaker 2: of him go Haywire. But is basically a meaning this
Speaker 2: game in terms of the national conversation. And I just
Speaker 2: wonder what version of Clemson we get. The concern on
Speaker 2: the Carolina side is pretty obvious. They don't play defense,
Speaker 2: and there could also be a big time limp to
Speaker 2: the finish in them continuing after what we saw for
Speaker 2: the last two weeks. Yep, So I think I come
Speaker 2: down on the Clemson side. I got it forty one
Speaker 2: twenty eight. I don't feel great about this one at all,
Speaker 2: but I think Clemson's a better side.
Speaker 1: The question is do you take the team with the
Speaker 1: better quarterback if you're confused about the outcome? Now, Drake
Speaker 1: May's kind of fallen off these past couple weeks against
Speaker 1: what NC State and.
Speaker 3: Who they played the week for Georgia Tech.
Speaker 1: They played Georgia Tech and lost, and I think scored
Speaker 1: seventeen in that losing effort.
Speaker 2: I'm worried in particular about that side of things. When
Speaker 2: I say limp to the finish, I'm being perhaps a
Speaker 2: little too simplistic. I'm worried that teams have figured out
Speaker 2: Carolina and Drake May.
Speaker 3: Drake May is still.
Speaker 2: Holding up numbers, but I'm worried that teams have figured
Speaker 2: something out because those are two games that I don't
Speaker 2: feel they should have lost.
Speaker 1: True, although he's a freshman and maybe you slow down
Speaker 1: at the end of the year, it's a freshman wall
Speaker 1: a little bit as people, as you mentioned, figured out
Speaker 1: like some of your tendencies. But he's also good improvising
Speaker 1: and buying himself time and you know, finding the fourth
Speaker 1: or fifth guy. Like he's a quarterback well ahead of
Speaker 1: his years.
Speaker 2: He's well ahead of his years, and that would definitely
Speaker 2: hold some water if his numbers weren't still good. Right,
Speaker 2: his numbers are still good. In the offense has sputtered
Speaker 2: a bit, so defenses have figured them out in some way,
Speaker 2: shape or form to keep him out of the end zone.
Speaker 3: And that's that's problematic.
Speaker 1: So here's the question. The question then becomes who do
Speaker 1: you feel more comfortable taking a not heavy favorite, but
Speaker 1: a comfortable favorite when you say eight and a half points,
Speaker 1: seven and a half, seven and a half points, So
Speaker 1: comfortable favorite with the potential to collapse via the passing game.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be nice here, not name name, and
Speaker 1: not be mean to specific people. Yeah, prone to collapse
Speaker 1: via the passing game, and the passing game on defense
Speaker 1: as well. Like it's one of those things where we
Speaker 1: say a lot of people have figured out, you know,
Speaker 1: North Carolina a little bit. People have figured out the
Speaker 1: secondary of Clemson all year long, essentially, and so that
Speaker 1: to me is the concern that North Carolina could win
Speaker 1: this game forty two to forty, right, that you're able
Speaker 1: to score many points against this Clemson secondary and like
Speaker 1: a very inconsistent, weirdly pass rush from Clemson. I'm going
Speaker 1: Clemson here. I'm going Clemson here, not because I think
Speaker 1: DJU is going to pick on the North Carolina defense,
Speaker 1: but I just I'm with you that the limp to
Speaker 1: the finish thing has me a little bit spooked, and
Speaker 1: I think Will Shipley and some timely running from DJU
Speaker 1: I think should be enough to ultimately in the way
Speaker 1: that they paced a you know, a comfortable win against
Speaker 1: was it Louisville a couple of weeks ago, and that
Speaker 1: was a Brent Doman game. I know that, But I
Speaker 1: think I'm good with with Clemson winning this game by
Speaker 1: Clinton thirteen.
Speaker 2: Clemson should give the ball to Will Shipley thirty five times. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they should just give him the ball. He is their
Speaker 2: best offensive player. They should give him the ball and
Speaker 2: they should let him score. It will be a hot
Speaker 2: Knight through butter against this Carolina defense. That should be
Speaker 2: the game plan. It won't be, but should have it.
Speaker 1: They've improved a little bit the Carolina defense. They have
Speaker 1: not what they were against.
Speaker 2: That they have they have, they absolutely have. They're still
Speaker 2: not good. Okay, they should give Will Shipley the ball
Speaker 2: thirty five times and they'll win going away.
Speaker 3: But they won't. They won't.
Speaker 1: They won't do that.
Speaker 2: All right, some other games here, if I could go
Speaker 2: around the horn here, Group of five action is also
Speaker 2: taking place. Let's go back, Let's travel back in time.
Speaker 2: Dan Friday, seven thirty, CBS Sports Network, the Conference USA
Speaker 2: Championship Game in the Alamodome.
Speaker 1: That's where UTSA plays its home games.
Speaker 2: UTSA by the way, ten and two this season. Yep,
Speaker 2: your boy, big Frank Harris against North Texas North Texas
Speaker 2: seven and five. These teams met back in Week eight.
Speaker 2: UTSA won that game pretty good game, thirty one to
Speaker 2: twenty seven at home. Frank Harris needed a touchdown pass
Speaker 2: with fifteen seconds left to.
Speaker 1: Get the dub.
Speaker 2: This is another home game for UTSA. H I think
Speaker 2: it could be fun. I think this could be a
Speaker 2: good matchup. North Texas lives and dies by the big play,
Speaker 2: which always makes for interesting viewing. If nothing more, both
Speaker 2: on offense and defense.
Speaker 3: That is just their mo.
Speaker 2: I trust big Frank Harris again and UTSA again to
Speaker 2: get win number ten in a row to get the
Speaker 2: conference championship. I think their offense a little bit too
Speaker 2: much for the mean Green. So I don't know about
Speaker 2: minus eight. I don't have a read on that point spread,
Speaker 2: but I like UTSA to get the conference championship.
Speaker 1: Here. I think I'm going North Texas to cover in
Speaker 1: this one. Okay, I think I could sign at large.
Speaker 1: I should sigh large the UAB game, nonwithstanding, the defense
Speaker 1: proved over the course of the year. They were scoring
Speaker 1: over the course of the year. The win against Western
Speaker 1: Kentucky was impressive. I went back and watched some of that.
Speaker 1: I'm just I think North Texas keeps it close. It's
Speaker 1: been a nice bounce back year.
Speaker 2: Saturday high noon on ESPN. It is the MAC Championship.
Speaker 2: They play at neutral site at Ford Field and it's
Speaker 2: the Battle of Ohio. Toledo at seven and five a
Speaker 2: three point favorite against the Ohio Bobcats at nine and three.
Speaker 2: These teams did not meet during the regular season. I
Speaker 2: am on Toledo as am I. I am on Toledo here.
Speaker 2: This is a fairly even matchup on paper. But I
Speaker 2: do think the loss of Curtis Rourke for Ohio is
Speaker 2: pretty significant, and they're going to give the start CJ. Harris,
Speaker 2: He's red shirt sophomore. ESPN thinks very highly of him,
Speaker 2: dan so highly that they linked his name up to
Speaker 2: the wrong CJ. Harris, who plays linebacker for Kent State,
Speaker 2: also in Ohio. So so yeah, I just I trust
Speaker 2: to lead a little bit more given circumstances, and I
Speaker 2: got them the win and cover.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I have Toledo because of the defense here. The
Speaker 1: offense has not been incredible, but because of the Toledo defense,
Speaker 1: the ability to get after the quarterback, I'm going with the.
Speaker 2: Rockets Saturday, three thirty ESPN Sun Belt Game sun Belt Championship.
Speaker 2: They're playing it at Veterans Memorial Stadium, that is the
Speaker 2: home field of Troy. Troy also ten and two this
Speaker 2: past season, hosting uc NO hosting Coastal Carolinas.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Coastal went nine to two, but lost forty seven to
Speaker 2: seven last week James Madison. That is at least in
Speaker 2: part because they are without their head honcho, Grayson McCall.
Speaker 2: Quarterback Grayson McCall out for the year. Hence the big
Speaker 2: points bread here. Troy is favored by eight and a
Speaker 2: half points. I went back and checked. I was really
Speaker 2: high on Troy before the year.
Speaker 1: Good I should have been.
Speaker 2: I was high on Troy because of that defense, and
Speaker 2: the defense has not disappointed. They've now won nine in
Speaker 2: a row. There are only two losses this season were
Speaker 2: at app State and at Ole Miss. These teams did
Speaker 2: not play at all during the regular season. I'm not
Speaker 2: confident they can't cover this or really any spread, but
Speaker 2: I'm also not at all confident that Coastal is going
Speaker 2: to be able to score on this defense. So I
Speaker 2: will say Troy twenty one to ten. Relatively low scoring.
Speaker 2: I have them to cover.
Speaker 1: I'm not confident, but I like the Trojans here to
Speaker 1: win at home, as do I. I think they comfortably
Speaker 1: win this game Coastal, even without Grays and McCall. Even
Speaker 1: with Gray and McCall, excuse me, defense was kind of
Speaker 1: a disaster this year. So I'm going Troy here to
Speaker 1: take advantage and comfortably win.
Speaker 2: Saturday, four pm ABC, the American Championship Game. It is
Speaker 2: in Yolman Stadium in New Orleans, Louisiana. This is UCF
Speaker 2: at nine to three. This is Tulane also, oh god
Speaker 2: at ten and two, so many two Lane favored by
Speaker 2: three and a half points. We have rumors all week.
Speaker 2: I don't know to what end they affected the preparation
Speaker 2: here about Willie Fritz potentially going to Georgia Tech. That
Speaker 2: did not happen. Brent Key of course got that gig.
Speaker 2: But I think a letdown spot maybe for TWU Lane
Speaker 2: week after beating Cincy. Yeah, I don't know. I'm curious.
Speaker 2: It's a week after they beat Cincy. But it's also
Speaker 2: a revenge game for Tulane because UCF one when these
Speaker 2: teams played back in week eleven, so in that game,
Speaker 2: for whatever, it's Worth was a fairly comfortable win for
Speaker 2: UCF because they led.
Speaker 3: Wired to wire. Yeah, they led wire to wire.
Speaker 2: They kept two lane at arm's length, even though it
Speaker 2: was kind of a closer final score. They rushed for
Speaker 2: three point thirty six. Your boy John Rice Plumbly had
Speaker 2: a monster game on the ground there and through the air.
Speaker 1: So I hears played well though in that one, did
Speaker 1: he not? Yeah, Taj Spears, Yep, yep. I'm going to
Speaker 1: lane here. I'm going with the home team who can
Speaker 1: run the ball. I'm one with the better defense on
Speaker 1: the on this kind of stage, UCF is fine. I
Speaker 1: don't think they can win in multiple ways. I think
Speaker 1: they could, but I'm going with the home team Tulane,
Speaker 1: who comes in with a good deal of momentum. UCF,
Speaker 1: who they lose two a couple of weeks ago, Navy.
Speaker 1: Don't love that. Navy's defense is pretty decent, but I
Speaker 1: don't love that loss. So I'm going I'm going to
Speaker 1: lane here to win by a touchdown.
Speaker 2: I went UCF back then, I'm going to go UCF
Speaker 2: again here. And there's a lot to like about Tulane.
Speaker 2: Michael Pratts had a good year. Yeah, Willy Fritz is
Speaker 2: the man like, we both.
Speaker 1: Beat my precious Kansas State.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we both like Willie Fritz a lot. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: just in on UCF in this matchup. I think it's
Speaker 2: a matchup that favors him again, So I'll go UCF
Speaker 2: plus the points.
Speaker 1: I think I went chalk? Did I go chalk? Other
Speaker 1: than North Texas?
Speaker 3: I believe?
Speaker 2: So here's your opportunity to not go chalk. We're both
Speaker 2: not go chalk here. In the Saturday four pm Fox game,
Speaker 2: it's Mountain West Championship. They played on the smurf turf
Speaker 2: at Boise and it is Boise.
Speaker 3: State nine and three.
Speaker 2: Boise State, a three and a half point favorite against Fresno,
Speaker 2: stayed at eight and four. This is a really interesting matchup.
Speaker 2: To me, this is a fun matchup. These teams played
Speaker 2: back in Week six. The Broncos won by twenty. Notably,
Speaker 2: this was a game for Fresno without Jake Hayner. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the logan five game logan five games, So Hayner was out.
Speaker 2: He missed some time due to injury, but he's been
Speaker 2: back for about the last month or so. Fresno hasn't lost.
Speaker 2: Fresno has been really really good since he came back,
Speaker 2: and this matchup, in particular to me, is really the
Speaker 2: culmination of two great stories so far in college football,
Speaker 2: teams that got it together and have both gone on
Speaker 2: a run. So on the Boise side, since they brought
Speaker 2: over Dirt Cutter to run the offense, they're scoring thirty
Speaker 2: four points a game. The numbers have been really impressive,
Speaker 2: especially in the ground, close to two hundred yards per
Speaker 2: game on the ground. Taylor Green, who they installed at quarterback,
Speaker 2: has been really, really solid. They've won seven of eight
Speaker 2: since making that switch at both coordinator and quarterback. And
Speaker 2: then on the Fresno side. Fresno keep in mind, this
Speaker 2: Fresno team lost by three at the Gun to a
Speaker 2: nine to three Oregon State team. They got destroyed by USC,
Speaker 2: but USC might be a playoff team now, and in
Speaker 2: the process of that lost a bunch of guys got hurt.
Speaker 2: So it was during that spell they lost to Boise,
Speaker 2: they lost to Yukon. Since then, they've won seven in
Speaker 2: a row as they've gotten healthier. They're winning by a
Speaker 2: large margin in all of those games. The defense has
Speaker 2: played well. They're giving up like fourteen points a game
Speaker 2: something of that ilk and they've got Jake Cayner back
Speaker 2: Jake Cane. So I don't want to go straight chalk
Speaker 2: all weekend.
Speaker 3: I'm with you. I'm gonna go Fresno here.
Speaker 1: Out right, I'm going Boise. I'm going Boise. You can
Speaker 1: call me Sir Leonard Chockington, But what a jerk. I
Speaker 1: know it's in Boise. It's gonna be cold about thirty degrees.
Speaker 1: Guys from Fresno not used to that chill in the
Speaker 1: air altitude tie. I'm just not there. I think Fresno's
Speaker 1: a good team. I think you go defense at home
Speaker 1: with a good quarterback, which I think they both have
Speaker 1: good quarter But the ability to run the ball is
Speaker 1: sort of interesting to me. For Boise, ability to get
Speaker 1: after the passer, I just think it's lining up Broncos.
Speaker 2: Sorry, we got one more game to talk about, dan Okay.
Speaker 2: Patriot League action here Week fourteen college football season. They
Speaker 2: play this one Saturday high noon ESPN Plus if that's
Speaker 2: the thing for you. Fitt and Field and Wooster Mass,
Speaker 2: New Hampshire at nine and three, Holy Cross across Saders
Speaker 2: at eleven and oh I try to find a point spread.
Speaker 2: I couldn't, Okay, which is typical when you look for
Speaker 2: an early week point spread for an FCS game the Crossaders.
Speaker 2: They qualified automatically by virtue of their conference win, by
Speaker 2: virtue of going eleven and oh being ranked highly enough
Speaker 2: in the FCS ranks. I am inclined to go holy
Speaker 2: Cross here. I think we got to go holy Cross.
Speaker 2: I think we got to ride the Patriot League wagon
Speaker 2: as long as we can here to keep this thing
Speaker 2: going throughout the college football postseason.
Speaker 1: I'm looking for odds here and I can't.
Speaker 3: I couldn't find a damn thing.
Speaker 1: Uh No, I found something. Scoresan odds dot com has
Speaker 1: New Hampshire as a seven and a half point favorite.
Speaker 2: Really, that's interesting. That's very interesting because.
Speaker 1: If you if you on hold on, this is basketball,
Speaker 1: the game already happened. New Hampshire beat him by fifteen.
Speaker 2: The only thing that I could find is that holy
Speaker 2: Cross is something like a twenty five to one, a
Speaker 2: twenty five to one long shot to win the FCS championship,
Speaker 2: and New Hampshire is like eighty to one.
Speaker 3: So I can surmise from.
Speaker 2: That that holy Cross should be a pretty good favorite here.
Speaker 1: Yes, I would think so. Yeah, I'm looking right now,
Speaker 1: New Hampshire. Nothing coming up. Nope, spread na.
Speaker 3: We should have been more prepared for this, but I
Speaker 3: couldn't find it. I looked everywhere.
Speaker 1: No, I mean that's preparing. You just couldn't find it.
Speaker 1: I'm going cross Aders by forty four points here four points. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I think New Hampson will get on the board. I
Speaker 1: have it as something around sixty to sixteen. Sixty to sixteen, yeah,
Speaker 1: a nice score A GAMMI outcome.
Speaker 3: No, I like that.
Speaker 2: I'll go speaking you score a gamies, We'll go. Let's
Speaker 2: say thirty seven to nineteen.
Speaker 1: Okay, what did you lock up? You locked up Michigan?
Speaker 3: I locked up Michigan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I should offer a lock here. I'm going to
Speaker 1: lock up t see you.
Speaker 3: How about that? Lock up? The week?
Speaker 1: About that.
Speaker 3: TCU?
Speaker 1: I like it?
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Speaker 3: We'll talk to you all soon.
Speaker 1: Hope to see you in Atlanta. If not, stay solid peace,