1 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: It's been nearly three years now since a killing spree. 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: This span from the Soto to Dallas. Herbie Bowser accused 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: of murdering his estranged wife, a girlfriend, and their two daughter. 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: We say the former special education teacher killed his forty 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: three year old girlfriend Toias Smith and her daughter and Inn. 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: Fifteen minutes later, Bowser and accused of shooting is a 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: strange wine. Zeena Bowser and her daughter Yours heard Nema 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: Williams terrified whispers coat and a friend. They called it 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: to nine one one, no warning, no death bed. This 10 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: is Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Chills in the murder 11 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: trial for former man's maniac Herbie Bowser. William's younger brothers 12 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: told juniors that the family turned off the lights and 13 00:00:50,200 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: kid for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. I'm Alan Duke. 14 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: We're following the case of Herbie Browser, a Dallas, Texas 15 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: man on trial for killing four women and wounding several 16 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: other people in a series of shooting rampages nearly four 17 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: years ago. Browser is not your normal serial killer. Basketball 18 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: fans in Dallas know him as the four hundred pound 19 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: cheerleader for the NBA Mavericks Mail Dance team. His nickname 20 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: e Love, but there was no love the night of 21 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: August seven, when Browser allegedly invaded the home of his 22 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: ex girlfriend, fatally wounding her and her teenage daughter. He 23 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: then drove to the nearby Dallas suburban town of DeSoto, Texas, 24 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: on a hunt for his ex wife. Police say he 25 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: tossed a grenade at her door as he ran in shooting, 26 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: he shot the ex wife and her daughter. They both died. 27 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: He also wounded her fourteen year old son and a 28 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: family friend. The shooting stopped only after Browser apparently ran 29 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: out of ammunition. When police arrived on the scene, they 30 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: said it looked like a war zone. Browser faced down 31 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: on the floor, apparently pretending to be a victim. When 32 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: they first questioned him, Browser kept repeating his name, his 33 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: army rank, and serial number. He served in the U. S. 34 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: Army for nine years back in the nineties, rising to 35 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: the rank of staff sergeant before he was booted out 36 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: of the military for being overweight. He stands six ft 37 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: seven and once weighed six hundred fifty pounds, although he 38 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: more recently weighed in at just four hundred. After leaving 39 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: the military, Browser became a special education teacher working for 40 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: a Texas school district from two thousand one to two 41 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: thousand and ten. What makes Browser's trial especially sensational is 42 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: his defense. His lawyers argue he's not guilty because he 43 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: was insane, a brain injury suffered playing high school football, 44 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: post traumatic stress disorder from his time as a soldier, 45 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: and Nancy, get this, a low level of sodium in 46 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: his blood combined to mess up his mind and turn 47 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: him into a serial killer. First there was the twinkie defense. 48 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: Then we had the PMS defense. Now we have the 49 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: low sodium intake defense. Oh yes, I'm not kidding. Four 50 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: people are dead, four body bags. The defense low sodium. 51 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: That's salt soy sauce. That's what I'm talking about. Allan, 52 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: What what low sodium? It's not just low sodium. This 53 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: gets even more bizarre because they're the defense for this 54 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,839 Speaker 1: guy and this is in Dallas, Texas. He's forty eight 55 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: year old Rby Bowser. They said that it was a 56 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: perfect storm in his brain that caused him to kill 57 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: four women, including girlfriends and an estranged wife, and he 58 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: injured several of the kids and a couple of attacks. 59 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: Back in two thousand, Alan stop, Okay, so we just 60 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: happened to have a low sodium. Let me just say 61 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: sell when he was around women that had likely rejected him, 62 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: an ex wife, an ex girlfriend or girlfriend. So suddenly 63 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: when he's around then he does like such, Okay, go ahead. 64 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: It caused an insanity, this perfect storm, not just along 65 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: with the low sodium. They said when he was in 66 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: high school, he suffered a brain injury while playing football, 67 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: and he has a shrunken hippocampus. In addition to that, 68 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: he has been diagnosed with post traumatic stress syndrome disorder 69 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: from service in the U. S. Army. But like me, 70 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: I was in the Army. He never saw combat. So 71 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: how did that happen? But this created a perfect storm 72 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: in his brain that justifies this plea of not guilty 73 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: but insane. So Okay's claiming an old football in jury, 74 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: you know, hold on, wait a minute. One time I 75 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: pulled my hamstring when I was doing a backflip into 76 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: a split as a cheerleader. I wonder if that would work, Nancy, 77 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: It's not in your brain. Your tendon is not in 78 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: your brain. Oh, if I have hired this defense attorney, 79 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: it might be Okay, So he had a football injury, 80 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: then loads sodium intake for him. That happened to manifest 81 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: when he's around his ex wife and his girlfriend. Was 82 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: she an ex girlfriend or a girlfriend? It was his 83 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: ex wife and a strange girlfriend. Who are the targets 84 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: of this perfect storm? Will you quit? Okay? Stop stop? Stop? 85 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: What stop saying perfect storm? Okay, that's what the defense said. Well, 86 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: I'm mocking it, not to say it. Quit calling it 87 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: a perfect storm. That is a lie. Well, actually it's 88 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: a doctor. Dr Tony Strickland. He's a neuropsychologist and chief 89 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: executive officer of the Sports Concussion Institute. 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Who was the victims? 117 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: Kill me again? You've got the ex wife. It was 118 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: an ex wife that he told this psychiatrist that he 119 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: had been having frequent nightmares about choking her in his sleep, 120 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: and that was one of them. Her name was Zenna 121 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: Bowser and they were actually married. She's forty seven years old, 122 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: but also there was her twenty eight year old daughter. 123 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: Let me jump in right here to claim a temporary insanity. 124 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: That means you've had a sudden, uncontrollable impulse. If you're 125 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 1: having dreams about murdering someone, that is going to work 126 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: against the theory of a sudden uncontrollable impulse. I mean, 127 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: he's been dreaming, even thinking about strangling this woman, killing 128 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: her so much he's actually dreaming about it now. All right, 129 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: it could be that perfect storm, Nancy, a storm. You're 130 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 1: just like one of those trained parents. Did you give 131 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: it a cracker and then forever from that moment on 132 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: on once storm that was actually pretty good, Allen. Along 133 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: with the forty seven year old ex wife, Zena, her daughter, 134 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: twenty year old Nemo Williams, was killed. That was August 135 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: also killed Toya Smith three her daughter seventeen year old 136 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: Tasmia Alan. Addition to the victims, the ones that survived, 137 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: I guess that's the girlfriend, Yes, the girlfriend. Toya Smith 138 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: also shot Storm Malone Smith's son, her daughter's friend, Dasmond Mitchell, 139 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: along with Zena Bowser's two young sons. Somehow and all 140 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: of that it got lost in the soft I think 141 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: you're saying it trained her daughter, girlfriend and her daughter 142 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: or friend. I think it's what you're trying to say. 143 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: So for women, you know what, it's starting to sound 144 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: more and more like a misogynistic take mine, many, many 145 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: years ago, he has a football injury. Now for the 146 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: first time, after thinking about murdering his ex so much, 147 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: he starts to dreaming about it. He suddenly goes Loso 148 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: los Podium and he murders four women. Yeah, I'm not 149 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: buying the temporary insanity any more than I bought the 150 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: Twinkie defense or the p MS sense. No, no, what 151 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: about PTSD. According to the defense lawyers, he was acting 152 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: out a military delusion in the shootings that happened at night. 153 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: What's the delusion that he was in a military on 154 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: a military mission. What is his military background? What's his 155 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: army background? Did he ever see action? Oh, he saw 156 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: some action in the chow hall. He was honorably discharged 157 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: from the army in two thousand for being overweight. He 158 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: currently weighs four hundred pounds, but once weighed six hundred 159 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: and fifty pounds. There's no way he saw action. How 160 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: can he have PTSD if he never saw action? You 161 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: know what? You know now that's really making me mad 162 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: because now, not only did you kill four innocent women's 163 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: now the smirching everybody that has ever served in our 164 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: country by claiming this ridiculous PTSD. I totally agree with 165 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 1: the PTSD defense post traumatic stress syndrome, especially for vets. 166 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: But this guy never saw anything but the end of 167 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: the chow line. He may be a victim of Hamburger Hill, 168 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: but not the not the actual battle Hamburger Hill. You know, 169 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: my back store neighbor, Mr Talbot was on Hamburger Hill, 170 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: and I will never forget. He had three daughters and 171 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: his son and his wife goes to do our church 172 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: and making. And oh you know, to now claim p 173 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: t SC when he never saw action. You know, a 174 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: defense at trial, Alan, it's not a buffet. You can't 175 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 1: have PTSD and low salt and football injury and delusion. No, 176 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: you pretty much have to take a devance whether it's 177 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: true or not, and stick with it. You gotta go 178 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: home with the one that bring you. In other words, 179 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: he can't have all of this and just throw it 180 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: all at the jury, or you know, maybe they will 181 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: do that. It'll be a he's mistake. Some indication of 182 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: this guy's character. He told his family that he actually 183 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: was a ranger Ranger Special Forces in the Army. He 184 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: claimed he served tours of duty and Somalia Haiti and 185 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: was part of Desert Shield. He also said he had 186 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: a purple heart because he was wounded in combat, but 187 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: none of that according to his military records presented at 188 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 1: the trial. I mean he is lying. He never saw combat. 189 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: The only only medal he ever got was the Expert Marksmanship, 190 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: which is about the actually the only one of two 191 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: medals I ever got. A psychologist, a forensic psychologist by 192 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: the name of Robert Stamulus, says that his brain damage 193 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: that would be from the football in this perfect storm 194 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: affects his ability to make moral decisions and control his emotions. 195 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: That he was quote unable to appreciate that his conduct 196 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: was wrong that night, that he did all of these killings, 197 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 1: and that his mental illness combined with the low sodium 198 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: put him in a state of delirium. It wasn't eating 199 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: so much that caused this low sodium problem. The doctor 200 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: testified it could have been caused by a combination of 201 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: prescription drugs. He was taking anti anxiety medications, antidepressants, and 202 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: anti psychotic drugs. Okay, all right, I think I have 203 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: the picture. I don't think it's gonna work with the jury, 204 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: but I'm done that any asta. The doctor would even suggestice, 205 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: you know, Alan, I could go with PTSD. Okay, I 206 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: could go with it would take a lot, but I 207 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: could go with an actual brain injury. But if this 208 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: had never manifested before, and he suddenly goes crazy on 209 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: his ex wife and his girlfriend and whoever standing around, 210 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: and then suddenly snaps back to normal, I don't buy 211 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: any of that. Okay. Our eyes are all in the 212 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: courtroom as this guy actually tries to tell a jury 213 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: he committed quadruple promicide because of low sodium and an 214 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: old football injury and the p T s D he 215 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: suffered in the chow wine in the military. Okay, and Nancy, 216 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: let's thank our sponsors. Simply Safe. 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