WEBVTT - Ep. 304: Render - Bear Grease Hall of Fame Induction

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Clay Neukleman. This is a production of

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<v Speaker 1>the Bear Grease podcast called The Bear Grease Render, where

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<v Speaker 1>we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 1>of the actual bear Grease podcast, presented by f HF Gear,

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<v Speaker 1>American Maid, purpose built hunting and fishing gear that's designed

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<v Speaker 1>to be as rugged as the place as we explore.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, everybody, thank you, thank you, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the bear Grease Render that we have. We've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this render for a long time. We actually

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<v Speaker 1>got much of the original crew here. The Burger's Renders

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<v Speaker 1>been going on now for over three years, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that we always have different people that are

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<v Speaker 1>coming in and and sometimes people come and go. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's kind of some o gs and Gary Newcomb would

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<v Speaker 1>be one of them. Bears a new G. Josh is

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<v Speaker 1>an o G. Brent's an original o G, Mistery's original

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<v Speaker 1>o G. And so doesn't the O and O G

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<v Speaker 1>stand for original?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah stands original gangster? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you're you're

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<v Speaker 2>you're a new O G.

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<v Speaker 1>Original original gotcha? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like original, You're an original G. That is what I

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<v Speaker 1>should have said m M. But there's there's we've got

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<v Speaker 1>we've got. Let me just start off with the with

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<v Speaker 1>the agenda we're gonna We've got a big agenda today

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<v Speaker 1>And the biggest thing that we're gonna do today is

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<v Speaker 1>it's been over two years since we've done an induction

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<v Speaker 1>into the Bear Greece Hall of Fame. And if and

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<v Speaker 1>if anybody had forgotten about the Bear Grease Hall of

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<v Speaker 1>Fame or thought that it didn't exist anymore, it does

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<v Speaker 1>exist on you and uh and uh, we're gonna discuss

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<v Speaker 1>that in detail and uh and we're gonna discuss kind

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<v Speaker 1>of some of like the parliamentary rules around induction into

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<v Speaker 1>the Bear Grease Hall of Fame and how that works.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're actually going to induct and and and you

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<v Speaker 1>guys will have the opportunity to vote on whether you

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<v Speaker 1>think they should be in or not.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it have to be unanimous or does is it majority?

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<v Speaker 1>Majority?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Okay, are you the majority? Man?

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<v Speaker 4>I was in a parliamentary procedure team in the FFA

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<v Speaker 4>in high school.

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<v Speaker 1>You ever had you ever had a dictator as the

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<v Speaker 1>parliamentary procedure all?

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<v Speaker 3>I tell you what I did.

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<v Speaker 4>I had a we had a guy that couldn't hear

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<v Speaker 4>very well. He misunderstood what the topic was. Anytime you

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<v Speaker 4>go to these contests. We were over at U A M.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's every f h A. I mean, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 4>f f A school, you know, compete against each other schools,

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<v Speaker 4>and you don't know what the topic is. And there's

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<v Speaker 4>a president, a vice president, and secretary of treasure and

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<v Speaker 4>maybe a sergeant in arms, I can't remember. But we

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<v Speaker 4>were stationed at different podiums around the cafeteria or the

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<v Speaker 4>room wherever we were having this contest, and you just

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<v Speaker 4>draw a topic out, which is.

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<v Speaker 1>All agg related.

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<v Speaker 4>Agg related everything, you know. So the vice president, I think,

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<v Speaker 4>is who it was, pulled it out. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 4>to say his name because he listens, but you know

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<v Speaker 4>who you are.

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<v Speaker 3>He was nervous.

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<v Speaker 4>He pulled it out and looked looked at it, and

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<v Speaker 4>the word was agronomy, which is, you know, growing plants,

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<v Speaker 4>growing crops.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, our subject for today is astrology.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm looking I'm looking at everybody's looking around like somebody's

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<v Speaker 4>got to start it off. A friend of mine says,

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<v Speaker 4>point order make it. He says, I don't think corner

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<v Speaker 4>grow the moon and it kind of went downhill from there.

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<v Speaker 1>So point b sorry, you should you should, you should

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<v Speaker 1>really pay attention as we as we go through parliamentary

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<v Speaker 1>procedure inside of induction. The bear grisay, that's funny. That

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<v Speaker 1>is really funny. Uh. We also, I think it'd be

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<v Speaker 1>a good time as well to just tell somebody that's listening,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that the Beargrease Feed has a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff on it. It's got Brent's podcast, This Country Life.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you ever came to the feed, you you

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<v Speaker 1>might see This Country Life and hear Brent and and

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<v Speaker 1>you'd hear that. You might catch it on a week

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<v Speaker 1>where there's a Bear Grease Render, which is this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>which is where we have a kind of a round

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<v Speaker 1>table discussion that's primarily geared towards our other podcast. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's three different podcasts essentially on this channel and the

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<v Speaker 1>Bear Grease Podcast, which is a documentary style podcast about

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<v Speaker 1>rural America history hunting and.

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<v Speaker 3>Where you will not hear Josh Landbridge spilmmaker on there.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, you were on there once maybe, so the

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<v Speaker 1>uh this is this is that. So we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about a little bit about the Turkey Stories episode

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<v Speaker 1>that just came out, which which I I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>made a bold claim that I stand by that I

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<v Speaker 1>believe one of the stories on there was arguably the

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<v Speaker 1>best Turkey story ever told for any reasons. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about that. But we've also got we've

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<v Speaker 1>got a few other things to talk about, one of

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<v Speaker 1>which I wanted to show y'all. See this belt buckle, Brent,

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<v Speaker 1>I do look at that bad boy, a little shoe

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<v Speaker 1>raccoon playing the banjo. Man, I don't know how. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's people that are upset about the internet kind of

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<v Speaker 1>knowing what you do and what you like, and they

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<v Speaker 1>give ads to you. I mean, I don't know. There's

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<v Speaker 1>probably some type of invasion privacy that I wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>happy with, and I'm not, but man, when they start

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<v Speaker 1>feeding me stuff like this, I'm like, let's go, what

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<v Speaker 1>else you need to know about? And so I ordered

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<v Speaker 1>this and Misty thought that it was a scam. She

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<v Speaker 1>was like, there's no way that that's a real belt buckle.

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<v Speaker 1>And I actually paid an extra eight dollars to get

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<v Speaker 1>this shipped this expedited. So I was hoping to wear

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<v Speaker 1>it to the Black Bear, but Anza, well, I paid

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<v Speaker 1>an extra eight dollars and it never came. And Misty

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<v Speaker 1>was like, once again, yeah, she thought it was a scam,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh am, I right a little bit, a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>and Bear, what did you think? No, you were like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably okay. Well after a little while, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was a scam.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that the the timing of it was what

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<v Speaker 5>made it so scam worthy.

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<v Speaker 1>So it shows. I pay extra eight dollars to get

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<v Speaker 1>it like by Friday, and it comes in on like Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>and and it's a real belt buckle. And it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little small. It's it's like half the size I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it would be. That's all, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an incredible idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, tell the listeners what it Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a it's a nice silver belt buckle

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<v Speaker 1>with a with a raccoon paint playing a banjo in

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<v Speaker 1>the center of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's good.

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<v Speaker 3>Like what do you call those? Like a cameo? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah's what's funny is we were coon hunting me Randall Whitmore,

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<v Speaker 4>Brad Clark and Wade with More were coon hunting when

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<v Speaker 4>you sent me that picture.

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<v Speaker 3>And I said, y'all check this out.

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<v Speaker 4>Thirty minutes later, Wade says, Hey, just so y'all know,

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<v Speaker 4>I got four of those belt buckles ordered right now, like.

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<v Speaker 3>You kid, Yeah, we I had got it yet they

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<v Speaker 3>got scammed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but he said I got as four of those ordered.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, where did the world did you find them?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, buddy?

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<v Speaker 1>And then as soon as you order one of those, guy, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what the next one, they make one like

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<v Speaker 1>this with a beaver on it. A beaver he's playing

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<v Speaker 1>a mandolin or something.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, goodbye. That for steverdella. So that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>my uh, that's my belt buckle.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that we should we should also maybe tell

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<v Speaker 5>people why you entered to applause today. I think the

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<v Speaker 5>listener might be a little bit we were here, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I think the listener might not understand. They might think

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<v Speaker 5>we're somewhere to do friend. Well, we're in the same location. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>we're in the same Look, there's.

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<v Speaker 3>An extra like four or five hundred people here watching you.

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<v Speaker 1>We're at the Global headquarters. But this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>a Hall of Hall of Fame induction.

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<v Speaker 5>Episode, and Josh found out how to make fun sound

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<v Speaker 5>effects directly before.

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<v Speaker 1>The Hall of fame clips.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's all I got to say.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Uh, the other thing I wanted to tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>guys is that you may have seen you may have

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<v Speaker 1>Josh has seen Red with his own eyes. Bear has

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<v Speaker 1>ridden Red. Beautiful Misty is scene.

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<v Speaker 2>Red and refers to him as Hank.

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<v Speaker 1>Many people would have. For for about a month, I

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<v Speaker 1>was riding a mule that we call Red, really really

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<v Speaker 1>nice mule, fifteen to two, big, strong feet, ten years old,

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<v Speaker 1>just like a top notch mule, and uh, sold Red

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<v Speaker 1>this week.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of somebody got a good mule. I was able

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<v Speaker 3>to go on a hog hunt while you while you

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<v Speaker 3>were riding that mule. Yeah, and that that thing's a machine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, I really like Red, like Red.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't tell the rest of the story.

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<v Speaker 1>Which part is that that he.

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<v Speaker 3>Wound up like three miles from my house?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah yeah, it's pretty crazy. Randomly, completely randomly.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy that bought it ended up is like Brent's neighbor.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, but it wasn't that's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like Brent had anything to do with it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, do you know what?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, great guy, absolutely, great guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Great meal. Sounds like a good comba, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think the way that Clay described that mual

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<v Speaker 5>is probably how we should start describing our children about

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<v Speaker 5>fifteen years old. So many hands, two big strong feet.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that's a good that's a good.

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<v Speaker 1>Way to describe.

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<v Speaker 3>How many hands are you bear?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>How many hands are you bear?

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<v Speaker 3>No clue?

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<v Speaker 2>It's probably about seventeen hands, do you think.

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<v Speaker 1>More than that? To the twenty more than that.

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<v Speaker 4>The Yeah, that's where you measure them too.

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<v Speaker 1>So but let's let's go ahead, and uh, is there

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<v Speaker 1>anything else I'm supposed to talk about?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think you've talked about anything?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, Uh what about the Turkey Stories episode?

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<v Speaker 7>Barrett?

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<v Speaker 1>What was your favorite story? And you can exempt Med's story?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Yeah, because that was a good story. But

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<v Speaker 1>that was a really good story.

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<v Speaker 3>We can talk about this coffee that Missy just built

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<v Speaker 3>all over like, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Shut well, I'll be okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Lake Pickles story was just absolutely wild. Really yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen the two dead turkeys and then I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>like I can't think of a time where I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>come across a dead turkey, and then like you see

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<v Speaker 1>two and then he goes over there and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of turkeys comes in he said, which that

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<v Speaker 1>in itself was pretty wild. I mean, just like the

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<v Speaker 1>number of turkey and then you know, it turned out

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<v Speaker 1>that was the their roosts, which is why they were

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<v Speaker 1>seeing them in that little power line strip. And then

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<v Speaker 1>the turkey flies and gets zapped by a power line

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<v Speaker 1>and they take it back and mount it.

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<v Speaker 3>It was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just wild, but it did. Whenever I was

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<v Speaker 1>in North Carolina in January at a we were we

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<v Speaker 1>were hunting with falcons or hawks, but they had there

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<v Speaker 1>were multiple people there that had hawks that would fly

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<v Speaker 1>up onto the power line like transformers and they would

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<v Speaker 1>just like melt really and so yeah, and so like

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<v Speaker 1>you just think about how many wild birds that we

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<v Speaker 1>don't really.

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<v Speaker 3>But you see birds on the power lines all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the difference.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, the transformers, like the part that's like on

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<v Speaker 1>the actual poles what the falconers were talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting, but I don't know about that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and it's and it wasn't Old Mexico, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>possible the electrical system is different.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it could have just been like.

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<v Speaker 3>Trist down there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean it is south of the US border.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it would take one of them if every one

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<v Speaker 4>of them that flies into it dies. The word will

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<v Speaker 4>never get back to the rest of us. Somebody needs

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<v Speaker 4>to get needs to live through it. Like, dude, I

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<v Speaker 4>flew into that wire. Knock one of my spurs off.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me tell you, y'all be careful under or over.

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<v Speaker 2>Have been able to sleep since?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, I mean what I mean by it's different,

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<v Speaker 1>It could be. It's like maybe the big power lines

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<v Speaker 1>that you see, like if you transmission lines, well you

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<v Speaker 1>still got to be touching the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I don't know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why I'm saying it could have been different.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like it's electricity is different.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll get our old friend Josh barger On here to

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<v Speaker 3>explain it to us. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was a good story.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And the the the idea like having that many turkeys

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<v Speaker 1>around that they sat there until dark and couldn't get

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<v Speaker 1>a shot out on because they were going to shoot

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<v Speaker 1>other turkeys is like unimaginable to me. I can't even remember.

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<v Speaker 1>From a man who was born into like the worst

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<v Speaker 1>time in the last fifty years to turkey hunt in

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<v Speaker 1>this state bears like he's like if he sees one

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<v Speaker 1>turkey a year, he's happy and then he then he

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<v Speaker 1>hears about this. You need to go to Mexico.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you remember when we were in Folsom, New Mexico

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<v Speaker 3>and were driving through town and it was just turkey's

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<v Speaker 3>overrunning on turkeys real? Yeah, yeah, I bet I could

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<v Speaker 3>have counted one hundred and fifty turkeys.

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<v Speaker 4>Spot Burner's a male man down there right there, like Josh,

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<v Speaker 4>shut up Awsome?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, over the counter tags too. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you have to apply get points for years and

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<v Speaker 1>think there were real grand turkeys. We have a new job.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of a lot of companies in the outdoor

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<v Speaker 1>industry try to help people h get tags and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to try to confuse people.

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<v Speaker 3>We're doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Mexico. Yeah, you gotta apply in that point.

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<v Speaker 3>So that electricity down there, it's different.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you walk under power poles down there, it'll

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<v Speaker 1>get you. Dad. Which story stood out to you?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>I was just shocked.

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<v Speaker 6>Every one of them was just a ten, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>And if I just had to pick one, I think

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<v Speaker 6>the one bear was probably the best. But I like

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<v Speaker 6>the preacher boy from Mississippi.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh like the way he talk. Yeah, yeah, Robin Rischer.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, if you got a collar on or a

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<v Speaker 6>diaper and setting into Isaias, don't come up on a

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<v Speaker 6>country boy.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, wait till somebody, a city slicker comes up,

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<v Speaker 7>because these country boys, they can they can pump one

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<v Speaker 7>in their shotgun real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>I know when that when old Trusty Rusty swallowed that

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<v Speaker 1>three and a half inch die no bag wopping, turk,

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<v Speaker 1>turkey thumping whatever. He was a real storyteller.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean he was.

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<v Speaker 6>He added a lot of stuff that you didn't have

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<v Speaker 6>to add to it, and he was a comedian.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, well okay, so there's a bigger story behind

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<v Speaker 1>Robin Risher. So I've never met the guys from the

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<v Speaker 1>Hayden Alabama podcast, but I love them. They're hard not

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<v Speaker 1>to love. They have a really neat podcast, and it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like it was just some guys in the little

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<v Speaker 1>community in Alabama that that kind of recognize some of

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<v Speaker 1>the same things we've recognized that there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people with great stories just in the community that aren't

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<v Speaker 1>making national headlines that are just fun stories. So they

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<v Speaker 1>started this podcast. Well, they brought on Robin Risher, who's

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<v Speaker 1>this pastor in Mississippi, and he had a viral video

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<v Speaker 1>telling that story, and uh and and and he probably

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<v Speaker 1>told it. There was a component of it that's better

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<v Speaker 1>when you see him tell the story because Robin is

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<v Speaker 1>it's hilarious to watch him. See and if you go

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<v Speaker 1>online and ask for I don't know what you'd search

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<v Speaker 1>to find gy Yeah, Robin Rischer, you g l And anyway, Robin,

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<v Speaker 1>they he loves this, So I'm not making fun of him,

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<v Speaker 1>but they joke about how he never blinks. He just

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<v Speaker 1>stared at the camera the whole time. And he tells

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<v Speaker 1>his story, I mean, going like a long time without blinking.

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<v Speaker 1>And anyway, he's kind of become like this guy that

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<v Speaker 1>that people know.

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<v Speaker 3>And so.

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<v Speaker 1>We got him on the podcast and he told that

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<v Speaker 1>story to us.

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<v Speaker 3>But he's one of the one of the kindest, just

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<v Speaker 3>most genuine, you use the term precious. He's just the

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<v Speaker 3>sweet guy and a fun guy to be around.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'd be I wish he could. I wish he

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<v Speaker 1>could have come to something like, you know, to render

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<v Speaker 1>before we.

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<v Speaker 3>Learned an interesting fact, you know, speaking of Med Palmer's story,

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<v Speaker 3>when when we were talking to him, he said, he said,

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<v Speaker 3>you know somebody you need to talk to is Med Palmer.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, we actually have a story for Med Palmer

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<v Speaker 3>about about him losing his son in his last turkey.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, well, I preached Med palmer Son's funeral.

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<v Speaker 1>That isn't that something?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, brother Robin they call him brother Rob.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Josh, which one stood out to you? And we're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of leaving Med's story?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, man, they're all they're all good. I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to piggyback, but I loved that story that that David

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<v Speaker 3>uh I forgot Huffman. David Huffman told about with his

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<v Speaker 3>Native American guide saying let the creek accept you, and

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<v Speaker 3>and two of the guys did it, and two of

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<v Speaker 3>the guys didn't, and sure enough, yep. I mean it

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<v Speaker 3>just played out. It's amazing how when you when you

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<v Speaker 3>have so much awareness of an environment like that. I

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I do some guiding down here at the river,

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<v Speaker 3>and I've got a couple of guys that kind of

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<v Speaker 3>have taken me under their wing guides. One of the

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<v Speaker 3>guys I go with regularly, he's a fourth generation guy

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<v Speaker 3>down there, and it's like when he tells you something,

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<v Speaker 3>you listen because it's you could write it in a

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<v Speaker 3>book and use it as a guiding Bible because he

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<v Speaker 3>just you just know you have this, It's almost like

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<v Speaker 3>a sixth sense. And just listening to him tell that

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<v Speaker 3>story and how it played out of he did it,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, just step by step how the God told him,

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<v Speaker 3>and those other guys just thought they knew better. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and they didn't. So and then the next day, same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It played out exactly like the Gud told him. So

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<v Speaker 3>I loved that story.

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<v Speaker 2>So you liked the story where the guide was right,

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<v Speaker 2>where the guide was right.

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<v Speaker 3>I always listening to God, folks.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you did you like how let's talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>the semantics when I said, did you think it was

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<v Speaker 1>okay that I said I'm not an animist?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you understand that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? An animist means like you you you.

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<v Speaker 1>Haven't understand when I said that, Yeah, because I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that there's a it's it's a it's a theological like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to use the term religious because it's

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<v Speaker 1>not I don't really like that word. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like many indigenous cultures of the world believe that they're animists.

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<v Speaker 1>They believe that the spirituality of nature, like like a

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<v Speaker 1>tree would be alive and like a like a spirit

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<v Speaker 1>being and so that I wasn't trying to put doctrine

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<v Speaker 1>into this guy's mouth. But but the idea that the

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<v Speaker 1>creek could accept you is actually something that I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>that I would kind of doctrinally wouldn't couldn't completely get behind.

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<v Speaker 1>But I said, I get what they're saying. Like anybody

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's a woodsman has had a hunt or or

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe often. I mean, it's not even that unusual

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<v Speaker 1>where you're in the woods and you feel like you're

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<v Speaker 1>a part of the system, you're not just a visitor there,

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<v Speaker 1>and and it's it was great advice, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>So anyway, Yeah, I like that because it made you

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<v Speaker 4>pause and be more aware of what was going on

0:21:11.600 --> 0:21:15.040
<v Speaker 4>around you. You see, gets singularly focused on something and

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<v Speaker 4>you miss other things. Yeah, cotton mouse and creeks are

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<v Speaker 4>one of them. I remember going into a place early

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<v Speaker 4>for daylight, way before daylight, longer than I should have

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<v Speaker 4>been there. Shine a light over in a creek, and

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<v Speaker 4>there's a cotton mouth laying over there in the show

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<v Speaker 4>turn the light off. I'm waiting, wait and wait and wait. Nah,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm bored. You know, it's still thirty minutes for daylight.

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<v Speaker 4>What am I gonna do now? Oh, I'll see what

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<v Speaker 4>that cotton mouse doing. I shine over there, and he

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<v Speaker 4>ain't there. Now he's gone shine down my feet in there,

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<v Speaker 4>he is down there. I took time to be aware

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<v Speaker 4>of what was going around me, you know, and you

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<v Speaker 4>learn those hard things so that regardless of what they thought,

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<v Speaker 4>it is a good idea to get in there and

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<v Speaker 4>get set and just be aware of everything that's going right.

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<v Speaker 4>And so, you know, it's validity in a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Of things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And absolutely and and and I the older I get,

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<v Speaker 1>the more I am on a mission to understand the

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<v Speaker 1>things that are not trackable by the physics of this planet.

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<v Speaker 1>And there, and and and Western culture has taken Western

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<v Speaker 1>culture by by Western culture. I guess what I'm specifically

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<v Speaker 1>saying is is that knowledge, rational thinking, using your intellect

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<v Speaker 1>to guide yourself on this planet has been wonderful for us.

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<v Speaker 1>We have cars, and we understand electricity and physics, and

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<v Speaker 1>and we we've been very successful as a species in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of biologically reproducing and being successful with that also

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<v Speaker 1>took away from this uh uh, what I would just

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<v Speaker 1>call just raw spirituality. And I am one thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>percent convinced that there are there are things going on

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<v Speaker 1>that are not able to be picked up by those laws.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, and that's what a lot of a lot

0:23:10.920 --> 0:23:13.840
<v Speaker 1>of people used to would have relied on a whole

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<v Speaker 1>lot more than in the past anyway. And it's not

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<v Speaker 1>being spooky or weird. It's just like, yeah, there's there's

0:23:21.480 --> 0:23:25.240
<v Speaker 1>stuff that happens that is not on the radar of

0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:32.560
<v Speaker 1>physics period, the metaphysical. So that guy, that guy may

0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:33.760
<v Speaker 1>it tapped into a little bit of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, for sure.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, I called in a flock of turkey's downhill with

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<v Speaker 6>one gobbler years ago. You probably remember me telling the story. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean it's pretty phenomenal. I'm not a great turkey hunter.

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<v Speaker 6>And you can't call a turkey downhill, you know in theory, right,

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<v Speaker 6>that's the doctrine. And I mean I'm sitting down here

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<v Speaker 6>in this low spot and there's a big hill right there,

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<v Speaker 6>and there's not a lot of trees in this whole flock.

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<v Speaker 7>Probably there was fifteen birds, you know, twelve, And.

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<v Speaker 3>Here they come.

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<v Speaker 7>Man, I'm going what And they pull up right.

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<v Speaker 6>In front of me at about fifteen yards and I

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<v Speaker 6>got my gun up and I'm thinking I can't shoot

0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:15.080
<v Speaker 6>that gobbler, I'll kill a hent or two.

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<v Speaker 3>You remember, did I kill that gobler?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't remember, Okay, Okay, Well, anyway, I eventually killed

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<v Speaker 6>a gobbler I don't know, in that bunch, well, in

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<v Speaker 6>that same area, yeah, in that same area. I don't

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<v Speaker 6>know if it was that one or not.

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<v Speaker 1>But did you did you quiet out and become one

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<v Speaker 1>with the creek? Absolutely, I like to go, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they think it's a bumblebee.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what the turkey did to hit the firelight.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember one of your stories where you you called

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<v Speaker 1>you just were cold calling in the afternoon and called

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<v Speaker 1>quite a bit and fell asleep and then woke up

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<v Speaker 1>to two gobblers goblin right on top of you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>In fact, that's that was in the afternoon, a Sunday afternoon.

0:25:10.640 --> 0:25:13.919
<v Speaker 6>I went out called in that flock. I mean, I

0:25:13.920 --> 0:25:16.000
<v Speaker 6>don't mess around with just one bird.

0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Called them all.

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<v Speaker 7>And then then the best, probably the best story.

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<v Speaker 6>And I don't have many stories, because, like I say,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm just average truck hand, but that one that I've

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<v Speaker 6>told it on this probably before bird in a tree

0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:36.119
<v Speaker 6>goblin and you know I'm sitting there going daylight comes,

0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:38.760
<v Speaker 6>he drops out. I got my gun right here, and

0:25:38.800 --> 0:25:41.560
<v Speaker 6>I'm thinking, where did that bird go? And he's right here, man,

0:25:42.000 --> 0:25:42.399
<v Speaker 6>I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>He's he's like I could have grabbed him by the neck,

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<v Speaker 1>like three feet from him. Yeah, yeah, right there, right

0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:49.960
<v Speaker 1>he flew down and then yeah, and I was in.

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<v Speaker 6>Buck brush about this tall, and he just worked his

0:25:52.760 --> 0:25:55.399
<v Speaker 6>way through that. It was just about like me and

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:59.200
<v Speaker 6>bear and I looked over and then he walked right

0:25:59.200 --> 0:25:59.960
<v Speaker 6>in front of my gun.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not going to tell you the rest of the story.

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<v Speaker 3>The turkey lives.

0:26:06.880 --> 0:26:11.040
<v Speaker 6>Turkey flew off my shot, but I don't know up close.

0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:14.679
<v Speaker 6>I did a lot of studying on that. How you

0:26:14.720 --> 0:26:18.640
<v Speaker 6>can miss a bird at three feet that's pretty easy. Yeah,

0:26:18.720 --> 0:26:19.440
<v Speaker 6>I'm sure here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh man, that's good. Brent. Which story stood out

0:26:26.160 --> 0:26:26.440
<v Speaker 1>to you?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean the elephant in the room I'll leave

0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:35.440
<v Speaker 4>for Misty. But I liked the guy that had to

0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:38.720
<v Speaker 4>come to Jesus meeting with Mark Slade. Yeah, it's a

0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:44.000
<v Speaker 4>slave sledge Sledge, Mark Sledge. He finally owned up to it,

0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:47.720
<v Speaker 4>you know, and maybe who knows where the guy went

0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:50.640
<v Speaker 4>after that. But that's a you know, that's a that's

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<v Speaker 4>a hard listen for a grown up for a kid,

0:26:52.800 --> 0:26:55.800
<v Speaker 4>but for a grown up to admit, you know, you

0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:59.760
<v Speaker 4>got me. And then two he kind of you know,

0:26:59.840 --> 0:27:03.959
<v Speaker 4>it went about it. It said something about you know,

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 4>it said something about character, and not in a good way.

0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 4>If you have if you have your wife, if you

0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:12.199
<v Speaker 4>have your wife, call and say, hey, can I have

0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:12.679
<v Speaker 4>that turkey?

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<v Speaker 3>Call back?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's kind of puzzling.

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<v Speaker 4>It was very much so. So I think it was

0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:21.680
<v Speaker 4>a good lesson in what not to do. And maybe

0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:24.719
<v Speaker 4>this maybe it turned out, maybe the guy had a

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:27.520
<v Speaker 4>realization and this may may not have been the best

0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:28.359
<v Speaker 4>way to do that.

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 3>Because number one, Mark was very forgiven.

0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:34.840
<v Speaker 4>He didn't involve the sheriff's office, the game warden, or

0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:37.760
<v Speaker 4>all he wanted the guy to do was fast up.

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:40.439
<v Speaker 3>Hey, it was me, my bad. I made a like

0:27:40.520 --> 0:27:42.639
<v Speaker 3>me being late today. I walked in the door.

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:44.600
<v Speaker 4>I told my hat in here, make sure he didn't

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<v Speaker 4>get thrown back out, to make sure I could come

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:49.119
<v Speaker 4>back if I could come in. So there was a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of lessons there that you could you could take

0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 4>from that, and not only from the guy doing wrong,

0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:57.720
<v Speaker 4>but for Mark being very forgiven of the whole situation

0:27:58.760 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 4>and just wanting the guy to.

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<v Speaker 1>So Yeah, well, the hook of that story is that,

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 1>and we didn't want to bring it out until the render.

0:28:07.119 --> 0:28:16.600
<v Speaker 1>But that man was Josh back Christy. Christy called Bart called.

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was. I thought it was pretty unusually.

0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 1>He didn't call it game board because.

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<v Speaker 4>I kept waiting, you know, and you said at the end,

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:27.560
<v Speaker 4>if you were waiting for I was. I was waiting,

0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 4>you know, game Yeah, I thought.

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Did you think that was unusually? He didn't call it

0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:35.360
<v Speaker 1>game Barden. I mean, he caught this guy right handed.

0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:38.320
<v Speaker 6>I didn't think much about it. You know, it would

0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 6>be his word against yours. Really, once you got back

0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 6>to the truck. I mean, a guy could have light

0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 6>his way out of it.

0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I did you think you didn't?

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:48.520
<v Speaker 1>You know?

0:28:48.680 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 6>I thought he I thought he I was impressed with

0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 6>the way he dealt with it. Yeah, what he said,

0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:57.560
<v Speaker 6>You're sitting there, guys three feet from and you go hello.

0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:01.760
<v Speaker 7>The guy on set of his skin, and then then

0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:02.720
<v Speaker 7>he goes, I believe you.

0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 3>I love what he said. He said. He said, isn't

0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 3>it amazing how a good day like that?

0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 7>Clint Eastwood, you just made my day, brother.

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:16.480
<v Speaker 1>I wonder why he left his turkey best at the fence.

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he didn't want to get it hung up crawling

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<v Speaker 1>through it.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, he wanted to find out how to get out. Possibly,

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:25.280
<v Speaker 6>you know, the woods might have all looked the same,

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 6>and you know, you turn around, you look and you go, okay,

0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:29.560
<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna walk back to this big tree.

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:31.840
<v Speaker 7>Well he just and he didn't want his turkey vest.

0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:34.000
<v Speaker 6>You know, I think it might have been he was

0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:36.800
<v Speaker 6>a criminal, you don't, you know, you put your mask,

0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:37.959
<v Speaker 6>could have been making racket.

0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 4>You know, he's just trying to slip in there and

0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:40.360
<v Speaker 4>slip out with that.

0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if it had something to do with marbire fence,

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:46.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, like if you had a big fence on.

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:48.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean a big, big turkey best on.

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:52.400
<v Speaker 4>I remember hunting, my son, Hunter and I were crawling

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:56.840
<v Speaker 4>into a turkey in Missouri and we were trying to

0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:59.760
<v Speaker 4>slip down this hill. The turkey was on behind the

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 4>big clay root and I dropped my vest. He took

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:04.920
<v Speaker 4>his off. He was just a little kid. We crawled

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:07.960
<v Speaker 4>down there. We got set up and the turkey was

0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 4>still behind that clay root and Hunter said, he's like nine.

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:15.200
<v Speaker 4>He said, well, I mean that's what we had. That decoy.

0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:17.120
<v Speaker 4>It was in your vest up there right now we

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:18.120
<v Speaker 4>could stick out here.

0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, oh, that's a great that is

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:22.440
<v Speaker 3>a great idea.

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 6>You know, if you're on another guy's property and you

0:30:26.080 --> 0:30:28.400
<v Speaker 6>got an orange vest on, that's not too good, Well

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 6>you can kind of sneak around if you're in cameo

0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:31.920
<v Speaker 6>would not be seen.

0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 1>But it wasn't orange. It was a turkey vest. Oh,

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:39.040
<v Speaker 1>turkey vest Okay, yeah, it was a turkey best okay, yeah, yeah.

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 3>Things will never know.

0:30:40.680 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, uh, I I said that I always go

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:48.400
<v Speaker 1>every time Andy's on, I kind of go on and

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 1>on about Andy.

0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 3>Everybody.

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Everybody has heard that, so it might be getting old

0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:55.280
<v Speaker 1>me talking about Andy. But I'll tell you, I've traveled

0:30:55.280 --> 0:31:00.480
<v Speaker 1>the country trying to find Andy Brown's and they're there,

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:03.040
<v Speaker 1>and there's many that I have not found, don't get

0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 1>me wrong. And I've talked to many men who were

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:11.840
<v Speaker 1>incredible turkey storytellers. But I found that even really good

0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 1>turkey hunters have two or three really great stories.

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:16.520
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean that that are that are kinda and this

0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:23.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of stories that we're looking for are not are

0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:27.680
<v Speaker 1>are unusual in that we're looking for, you know, some

0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:30.880
<v Speaker 1>just something that makes it just a great story. And honestly,

0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:33.880
<v Speaker 1>I have one good turkey story. And I'm not a

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:36.000
<v Speaker 1>great turkey hunter. I've spent a good part of my

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 1>life turkey hunt. I've got one good story, the Lightning Bird,

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 1>and I tell it all the time. You've told it,

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 1>You've told it many times.

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:45.080
<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, it is a good story.

0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:49.959
<v Speaker 1>And and but here's my point about Andy is like

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 1>that story that he told about the thirty six inches

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 1>of beard and all this that was like his like

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:02.920
<v Speaker 1>P story A B C D E F G H

0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 1>I j K elemental P like his a story with

0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he just he did, he just he just

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:11.000
<v Speaker 1>has lots of stories and and and and he can

0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 1>tell a story that's uh, just about a normal hunt.

0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 1>And I always try to dissect what he does, and

0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:20.280
<v Speaker 1>you can't replicate it. You can't learn anything from it.

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 1>The first guy that tries to go tell a story

0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 1>like someone else, you know, kind of becomes kind of

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:30.560
<v Speaker 1>inauthentic in a way. But you know, uh, but Andy,

0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 1>they just they're group of hunters which Dad and I

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:38.840
<v Speaker 1>grew up around. Uh or Dad would have been a

0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 1>peer of Andy. Andy's son is a good friend of mine.

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:45.920
<v Speaker 1>They all tell stories like Andy and and they and

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:47.960
<v Speaker 1>they don't do it for show. I mean it's like

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:52.360
<v Speaker 1>really a big part of their their camps and uh,

0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:54.600
<v Speaker 1>and I mean I don't think anybody ever told them

0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:58.200
<v Speaker 1>they were special until we started recording Andy and and

0:32:58.280 --> 0:33:02.160
<v Speaker 1>I knew Scott was always just a great storyteller, his

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:05.560
<v Speaker 1>son and just the you know, and they all have.

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Steve Vanella is the one who said he Steve loves

0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Andy Brown. And Steve said, Andy Brown sure always knows

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:18.720
<v Speaker 1>which direction stuff's coming from, because in any any Andy story,

0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:21.040
<v Speaker 1>he's like, we went out to the east of the mountain,

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 1>and we came back and the bird was coming up

0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:26.120
<v Speaker 1>the south leg, and then we turned west and I mean,

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:28.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, just like this, and and I know exactly

0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:31.280
<v Speaker 1>where I feel like And if if Andy's listening to this,

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:34.320
<v Speaker 1>he can he could he could comment on on this.

0:33:34.400 --> 0:33:38.240
<v Speaker 1>But uh, when I was just a young man interacting

0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:41.280
<v Speaker 1>with his Andy's son Scott, it's getting complicated.

0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:48.640
<v Speaker 5>I thinks are complex enough to when generation.

0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 1>I noticed that in Scott's stories is that he always

0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:55.600
<v Speaker 1>like wanted to and we were from the same area,

0:33:56.080 --> 0:33:59.280
<v Speaker 1>and so he always wanted to orient me to write

0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 1>where he was like just precisely. And and I think

0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 1>they learned that from their their one of their uncles

0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:13.320
<v Speaker 1>who just knew every crack and crevice of that county.

0:34:14.080 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 1>And then it kind of was a way to just

0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 1>like communicate they knew the land.

0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:19.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:22.440
<v Speaker 4>It adds to the story, to the to someone who's

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 4>familiar with it.

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:24.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:27.600
<v Speaker 4>And I mean and being and using the cardinal directions

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:33.000
<v Speaker 4>instead of exact data when telling it to the general public.

0:34:33.360 --> 0:34:36.160
<v Speaker 4>It also includes them in that as well. Yeah, because

0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:38.360
<v Speaker 4>they can they get an idea, they can see in

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:41.839
<v Speaker 4>their head. They may not know exactly where he's at,

0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:44.759
<v Speaker 4>but they know if he said I was facing north

0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:46.600
<v Speaker 4>and then I turned around and went and then then

0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:49.160
<v Speaker 4>I turned and went west, they know he turned to.

0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:50.520
<v Speaker 3>His left and went that way. Yeah.

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:53.440
<v Speaker 4>He just kind of a good story, plays like a

0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:54.360
<v Speaker 4>little movie.

0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 3>In your head.

0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:55.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah.

0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:55.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:59.719
<v Speaker 1>I Actually, when Andy's first started telling me stories, I

0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 1>had to tell him not to give specific location.

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:03.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:06.720
<v Speaker 1>He'd tell the name of the mountain and the ridge

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:09.719
<v Speaker 1>and the road, and I would be like, Hey, I

0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:10.560
<v Speaker 1>don't think you want.

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:10.839
<v Speaker 3>To do that.

0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:15.279
<v Speaker 7>Yea, Hey, yeah, you told me you can't ever go

0:35:15.360 --> 0:35:15.839
<v Speaker 7>back there?

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:20.279
<v Speaker 1>Really, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah. Dad used to not like

0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:22.960
<v Speaker 1>for people to tell him where they were hunting because

0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:25.760
<v Speaker 1>then in his mind, that would be a big area

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:30.080
<v Speaker 1>blocked off that like he wouldn't want to go, but.

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:31.400
<v Speaker 3>He wanted to come by accident.

0:35:31.719 --> 0:35:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, So No, I always love AI's stories there Therebell,

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:42.080
<v Speaker 1>And he's at some point we're actually going to have

0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:47.680
<v Speaker 1>a special episode that's gonna come out next week that's

0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 1>not a Turkey Stories, but we're gonna later do another

0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Turkey Stories this spring. And and he's got another great

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:56.359
<v Speaker 1>little story. It's just as about four minutes long as

0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't even know what level it is,

0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:03.440
<v Speaker 1>but it's it's a good one. It's a good one, okay.

0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

0:36:04.200 --> 0:36:07.440
<v Speaker 1>It involves throwing sticks at predators to get them to

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:13.160
<v Speaker 1>run away. Little little teaser. Oh man, Yeah, yeah, Misty,

0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:15.280
<v Speaker 1>what was your favorite story?

0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:17.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, I know this is going to surprise y'all.

0:36:18.280 --> 0:36:21.000
<v Speaker 5>No, I thought that last story was just that's the

0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:22.839
<v Speaker 5>one that you were saying was the best turkey hunting

0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:26.040
<v Speaker 5>story ever. Right, That's that's how as advertised. And I

0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:28.920
<v Speaker 5>thought it was a good story. I mean, we had

0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:32.960
<v Speaker 5>a conversation this week about Clay and his grandpa and

0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:35.960
<v Speaker 5>their relationship. And one of the questions I asked him

0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 5>was like, and I was trying to get a sense

0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:41.360
<v Speaker 5>of because I've been around, I was around your grandpa,

0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:44.719
<v Speaker 5>and he wasn't just like always talking, you know, I

0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 5>mean he was, he was very pleasant. But Clay has

0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:51.719
<v Speaker 5>just so many advice, so much advice that he got

0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 5>from his grandpa that he's always sharing with the kids

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:57.319
<v Speaker 5>and anything from sorghum molasses and butter to you know,

0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:00.440
<v Speaker 5>work ethic and things like that. And and I was

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:02.480
<v Speaker 5>I was like, tell me, I wanted to understand the

0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:05.040
<v Speaker 5>context and and play it. A lot of the reason

0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:07.359
<v Speaker 5>he got those stories was because he was with him,

0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:09.839
<v Speaker 5>he was hunting with them like that. That's where those

0:37:09.840 --> 0:37:13.160
<v Speaker 5>stories came from. And I just thought about that Ned

0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:17.919
<v Speaker 5>and his son, med Med and his son, and and

0:37:18.440 --> 0:37:21.200
<v Speaker 5>just the gift that it is too to be able

0:37:21.239 --> 0:37:25.320
<v Speaker 5>to to share, to share this with with your kids,

0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:28.040
<v Speaker 5>and and to share that and have those opportunities. And

0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:30.799
<v Speaker 5>even after his son dies, you know, he goes back

0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:34.320
<v Speaker 5>and and it's almost like it it kept giving and

0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:37.480
<v Speaker 5>and and brought closure and an ability to grieve, and

0:37:38.040 --> 0:37:40.040
<v Speaker 5>because you hear him struggling to even want to go

0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:42.879
<v Speaker 5>hunting because of because of what was lost, but then

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:47.279
<v Speaker 5>inside there and to come full circle, you know, the

0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:49.880
<v Speaker 5>environment they're in is bigger than what you can measure,

0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:53.600
<v Speaker 5>and and and see there's there's a lot going on.

0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:55.759
<v Speaker 5>And and he looks down and he sees that shell.

0:37:55.800 --> 0:37:57.320
<v Speaker 5>That's that's a pretty incredible story.

0:37:57.480 --> 0:38:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the way describe that turkey mm hmm in that context,

0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:05.920
<v Speaker 1>you know when we when we talk about turkeys in

0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:08.440
<v Speaker 1>full strut, like you kind of see this image of

0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:11.160
<v Speaker 1>this oil painting, you know, at a National Wild Turkey

0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Federation event, of this big gobbler strutting in front of

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:17.600
<v Speaker 1>two or three hens with the sun coming down on him,

0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 1>and and and that's what Mad described it. I could

0:38:21.760 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 1>just see it, like, uh, you know, he did a

0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:28.280
<v Speaker 1>he did a good job of describing that and how

0:38:28.880 --> 0:38:30.600
<v Speaker 1>how beautiful it was. And then and then the fact

0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:33.800
<v Speaker 1>that he said that he got his spirit back and

0:38:34.200 --> 0:38:37.760
<v Speaker 1>just kind of brought it full circle, you know, And uh,

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I said, I I said, you know, the way people

0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:45.560
<v Speaker 1>talk about Mad Palmer down Mississippi is that like he's

0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:48.560
<v Speaker 1>the best turkey others ever lived. And you know, I

0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:50.960
<v Speaker 1>was kind of tongue in cheek obviously, I've never had

0:38:50.960 --> 0:38:53.279
<v Speaker 1>it with mad uh and and there's a lot of

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:59.759
<v Speaker 1>great turkey hunters, but I'm pretty sure he's he on

0:38:59.840 --> 0:39:03.640
<v Speaker 1>a good year. He's involved in calling up twenty five

0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:07.560
<v Speaker 1>or thirty turkeys for easy. He a year is a

0:39:07.560 --> 0:39:10.760
<v Speaker 1>great guy watching thirty turkeys get killed.

0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:14.239
<v Speaker 3>Most years, he works a lot with wounded veterans, and

0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:16.840
<v Speaker 3>so he takes a lot of wounded veterans hunting, hunting

0:39:16.880 --> 0:39:20.400
<v Speaker 3>and kids turkey hunting. Yeah, it's not uncommon for him

0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:23.120
<v Speaker 3>to call up twenty five to fifty birds for people.

0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:26.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Keith Pope went on and on about it. He

0:39:26.280 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 4>and I were talking Keith's turkey hunter down. Yeah that

0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:31.359
<v Speaker 4>like's going to ride in and say, Keith thinking near

0:39:31.640 --> 0:39:32.320
<v Speaker 4>the turkey.

0:39:32.080 --> 0:39:32.799
<v Speaker 3>Hunter that he is.

0:39:34.440 --> 0:39:38.000
<v Speaker 4>But but Keith just goes. He says, Man, that dude

0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:41.680
<v Speaker 4>is the real deal. Yeah, that's pretty good bona fides

0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:41.960
<v Speaker 4>for me.

0:39:42.520 --> 0:39:45.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, Yeah, Well I thought I thought it was

0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:47.640
<v Speaker 1>a strong episode. Yeah, I thought it was a strong.

0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:48.759
<v Speaker 3>Fantastic story. Yep.

0:39:49.080 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm tempted to tell what jan what Jannis Putellus said

0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:56.880
<v Speaker 1>about it, but I don't want this to be a uh.

0:39:56.960 --> 0:40:00.600
<v Speaker 1>I've getting a lot of feedback on the film and episode.

0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 1>Thing between me and the honis so y'all just leave

0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:05.440
<v Speaker 1>that out.

0:40:05.719 --> 0:40:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Was it positive or negative?

0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:10.040
<v Speaker 1>It was I. I just texted him and I was like, hey,

0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:12.799
<v Speaker 1>this is this is such a great episode and uh

0:40:13.080 --> 0:40:15.879
<v Speaker 1>and he would I won't tell you what he said.

0:40:15.920 --> 0:40:19.920
<v Speaker 1>He loved med story, he said, he said, as as promised,

0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Big time delivered, Big Time delivered. Bar you got your

0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:34.719
<v Speaker 1>bowfish and bow here yep. I finished it up. So

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:37.279
<v Speaker 1>this is a this is a bear made that bow

0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:38.200
<v Speaker 1>out of o sage.

0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:38.840
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

0:40:38.880 --> 0:40:42.520
<v Speaker 1>This is showed the tree the tree, yep. This is

0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:45.040
<v Speaker 1>the boa showed last time with the sturgeon skins. But

0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:49.640
<v Speaker 1>I put moose leather from Heather Duville up in Alaska.

0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:52.640
<v Speaker 2>She sent me that ak ak moosey yep.

0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:57.680
<v Speaker 1>And uh threw a big old muzzy reel on there

0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:01.000
<v Speaker 1>and it I took it out last night. It shoots

0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:04.360
<v Speaker 1>really good. I mean, like you can shoot I don't know.

0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:06.640
<v Speaker 1>I shot some really far shots at fish and it

0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:08.520
<v Speaker 1>would just like fling that air out there and you

0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:13.360
<v Speaker 1>could you could actually realistically kill a fish from pretty

0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:13.840
<v Speaker 1>far away.

0:41:14.440 --> 0:41:15.919
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we are you shooting at carp?

0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, big carb, big grass cart. Unfortunately, I didn't get

0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:23.040
<v Speaker 1>any in the boat, but it kind of had a

0:41:23.080 --> 0:41:29.480
<v Speaker 1>broadhead issue. Yeah yeah, but uh yeah, but that reeal

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:32.799
<v Speaker 1>comes on and off, so it's a bow fishing bow.

0:41:33.040 --> 0:41:35.799
<v Speaker 1>You take the reel off and you can hunt with it.

0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Yep, I appreciate the artwork.

0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I got a fishbone. Yeah, yeah, I think it's

0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:46.279
<v Speaker 1>I think it is now time to move on to

0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:51.040
<v Speaker 1>the the matter at hand. Are you all ready?

0:41:51.360 --> 0:41:51.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:41:51.600 --> 0:42:02.840
<v Speaker 4>Hold on, astrology, Yeah, we got.

0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:08.920
<v Speaker 1>That's not it. That's not it. I'm not sure that

0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:13.120
<v Speaker 1>was the best. I would like for the first time too,

0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:18.800
<v Speaker 1>to show this. I have in my hand very nice.

0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:24.000
<v Speaker 1>That is the Bear Grease Hall of Fame plaque.

0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:25.040
<v Speaker 3>Very good.

0:42:25.320 --> 0:42:32.160
<v Speaker 1>And the names on this board are Holy Colliery. Okay,

0:42:32.320 --> 0:42:38.440
<v Speaker 1>all right, thanks for running the moment. Okay, sorry, So

0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:42.680
<v Speaker 1>the guy that made the made this for us mistook

0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Wholk Caller for Holy Collier. So basically we have.

0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:49.680
<v Speaker 3>We have a duplicate made. We just need to put we.

0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Have a Bear Grease Hall of Fame plaque that will

0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 1>hang in the office and uh we we We started

0:42:57.560 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 1>the Bear Grease Hall of Fame about three years ago.

0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:04.400
<v Speaker 1>As we started doing these deep dives into these characters.

0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:09.160
<v Speaker 1>Some alive, some dead, and we just I mean, the

0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame like created itself. You know, it was

0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:15.040
<v Speaker 1>just because you do some stories that are great, but

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:18.640
<v Speaker 1>then some stories are just you just are just so good.

0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:20.120
<v Speaker 1>It's like, we've got we've got to have a hall

0:43:20.160 --> 0:43:24.520
<v Speaker 1>of fame about this and let me, let me, let

0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:25.839
<v Speaker 1>me do. Let me do one thing first of all,

0:43:25.840 --> 0:43:29.440
<v Speaker 1>pass Oh, I want to go through the current members

0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:30.880
<v Speaker 1>of the Bear Grease Hall of Fame. And this is

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:35.799
<v Speaker 1>important because I'm going to I'm going to present for

0:43:35.960 --> 0:43:41.680
<v Speaker 1>possible induction at least two oh potentially three. We've not

0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:44.479
<v Speaker 1>and we don't do this willy nilly. You know, We've

0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:50.400
<v Speaker 1>had I don't know how many original Bear Grease episodes,

0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:54.640
<v Speaker 1>probably one hundred plus Bear Grease episodes.

0:43:54.719 --> 0:43:56.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, pretty close.

0:43:56.280 --> 0:44:00.840
<v Speaker 1>So the first is Daniel Boone. Daniel Boone is in

0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:06.680
<v Speaker 1>our Hall of Fame as an American frontiersman, archetype and backwoodsman,

0:44:06.960 --> 0:44:10.560
<v Speaker 1>called himself a backwoodsman. There's so much about Boone and

0:44:10.600 --> 0:44:13.399
<v Speaker 1>that was one of the first historical series we did

0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:16.560
<v Speaker 1>that really took off. The second guy here and these

0:44:16.560 --> 0:44:19.040
<v Speaker 1>are not in any order particularly, but this was just

0:44:19.239 --> 0:44:21.960
<v Speaker 1>the first couple of inductions is a man named Warner

0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Glenn from Arizona. He's got to be one of the

0:44:27.160 --> 0:44:31.560
<v Speaker 1>oldest living working cowboys in America. Warner's over ninety now.

0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:35.719
<v Speaker 1>And I communicated with his daughter the other day and

0:44:35.800 --> 0:44:37.960
<v Speaker 1>he's been dry ground line hunting this week.

0:44:37.800 --> 0:44:40.360
<v Speaker 3>On Mules tough as Tarzan's feet.

0:44:40.719 --> 0:44:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Yep, exactly. And we did a series on Warner Glenn,

0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:47.600
<v Speaker 1>and you know he's dry ground line hunter and rancher

0:44:47.800 --> 0:44:53.160
<v Speaker 1>out in Arizona. Roy Clark, Tennessee plot man. Roy Clark

0:44:53.600 --> 0:45:03.279
<v Speaker 1>is a quintessential Southern Appalachian hill billy bear hunter. If

0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:10.560
<v Speaker 1>if Roy Clark has killed load bears in his group,

0:45:11.000 --> 0:45:14.439
<v Speaker 1>probably as many as anybody alive today. I mean, those

0:45:14.440 --> 0:45:17.960
<v Speaker 1>guys are bear hunters, and Roy if you remember from

0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:22.240
<v Speaker 1>the series that I did with them, the iconic moment,

0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:24.480
<v Speaker 1>and I wish we could have captured it and put

0:45:24.480 --> 0:45:26.960
<v Speaker 1>it on a shirt or a hat or and perhaps

0:45:27.040 --> 0:45:30.360
<v Speaker 1>the time has been lost. But when Roy Clark was

0:45:30.360 --> 0:45:35.040
<v Speaker 1>in the fourth grade, his buddy wrote him a Valentine's card.

0:45:35.080 --> 0:45:37.360
<v Speaker 1>They had to give Valentine's cards to all the people

0:45:37.400 --> 0:45:41.000
<v Speaker 1>in their class, and his buddy wrote a card that said,

0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:45.520
<v Speaker 1>we bear hunters, ain't we Roy and Roy when he

0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:49.200
<v Speaker 1>said that at age seventy two on that podcast, like

0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:53.560
<v Speaker 1>his eyes almost teared up and he remembered that and

0:45:53.600 --> 0:45:57.040
<v Speaker 1>it was just this. He was like, we're bear hunters,

0:45:57.400 --> 0:46:02.520
<v Speaker 1>We're bear hunters. Roy Clark is a bear hunt George mcjunkin.

0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:11.400
<v Speaker 1>George mcjunkin was a former slave that that became a

0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:15.560
<v Speaker 1>He owned land out west, but he discovered the Falsom Site,

0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:21.520
<v Speaker 1>the Falsom Archaeological Site, which unlocked the American story to

0:46:21.600 --> 0:46:25.919
<v Speaker 1>the Pleistocene to the Stone Age. Before George mcjunkin found

0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:30.080
<v Speaker 1>those bison bones, the smartest people in the world thought

0:46:30.080 --> 0:46:32.239
<v Speaker 1>that humans had only been in America for about three

0:46:32.280 --> 0:46:36.040
<v Speaker 1>thousand years. George mcjunkin in nineteen oh eight found these

0:46:36.080 --> 0:46:39.120
<v Speaker 1>bones and begged people to come out and look at

0:46:39.120 --> 0:46:43.360
<v Speaker 1>these bones. Nobody ever came until the three months after

0:46:43.400 --> 0:46:46.960
<v Speaker 1>he died, like in the nineteen twenties, and finally they

0:46:47.000 --> 0:46:48.719
<v Speaker 1>were like, well, I guess we ought to go look

0:46:48.719 --> 0:46:50.000
<v Speaker 1>at that, and they went out there and it was

0:46:50.040 --> 0:46:54.400
<v Speaker 1>the greatest at the time, the greatest archaeological discovery in

0:46:54.640 --> 0:47:02.799
<v Speaker 1>American history. George mcjunkin. Fulsom Place is full of turkeys

0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:06.960
<v Speaker 1>all over the contact got to apply for tactams twenty years.

0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:11.759
<v Speaker 1>Frederick Gershtacker, he is a German guy that came to

0:47:11.840 --> 0:47:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Arkansas in eighteen thirty seven and was here for seven years.

0:47:15.880 --> 0:47:18.120
<v Speaker 1>He wrote a book called Wild Sport. It's a very

0:47:18.200 --> 0:47:21.759
<v Speaker 1>formative book that I read years and years ago. Had

0:47:21.760 --> 0:47:26.880
<v Speaker 1>a dog named Bear Grease. And Frederick Gershacker was essentially

0:47:27.040 --> 0:47:32.800
<v Speaker 1>involved in market hunting, but was just the epitome of

0:47:34.880 --> 0:47:38.240
<v Speaker 1>why people came to the New World during that time

0:47:38.520 --> 0:47:42.759
<v Speaker 1>for adventure hunting and for market hunting. And he in

0:47:42.840 --> 0:47:49.360
<v Speaker 1>his time recognized the wastefulness of market hunting and actually

0:47:49.400 --> 0:47:51.399
<v Speaker 1>wrote about it, and it was kind of a little

0:47:51.400 --> 0:47:53.520
<v Speaker 1>bit ahead of his time, even though he participated in

0:47:53.560 --> 0:47:56.000
<v Speaker 1>it to some degree. He came to Arkansas to kill

0:47:56.040 --> 0:47:58.719
<v Speaker 1>a bison. That's why he came here. He wanted to

0:47:58.800 --> 0:48:01.640
<v Speaker 1>kill a bison, and he did. He killed a woodland

0:48:01.719 --> 0:48:06.600
<v Speaker 1>bison in Arkansas in the in the eighteen I think

0:48:06.600 --> 0:48:10.200
<v Speaker 1>the eighteen forties. His dog's name was Bear's Grease. Did

0:48:10.280 --> 0:48:11.280
<v Speaker 1>I tell you that yet?

0:48:11.840 --> 0:48:13.319
<v Speaker 3>Okay? So that was the.

0:48:13.280 --> 0:48:16.920
<v Speaker 1>First time I saw the two words bearing grease together

0:48:17.080 --> 0:48:21.200
<v Speaker 1>was in his book. So Frederick gersher The Death of Erskine. Yeah,

0:48:21.239 --> 0:48:25.120
<v Speaker 1>and that was probably to this day some people would

0:48:25.160 --> 0:48:28.239
<v Speaker 1>think that that was one of the their favorite episodes,

0:48:28.680 --> 0:48:30.360
<v Speaker 1>the Death of a Bear Hunter, which was like the

0:48:30.360 --> 0:48:33.800
<v Speaker 1>third or fourth episode we ever did. And I read

0:48:34.200 --> 0:48:37.120
<v Speaker 1>just read part of his book about the death of

0:48:37.160 --> 0:48:42.560
<v Speaker 1>his friend Erskine. It was really incredible. Or Lee Provence man,

0:48:42.680 --> 0:48:46.319
<v Speaker 1>there's a category. There is a category of people in

0:48:46.360 --> 0:48:51.120
<v Speaker 1>the Hall of Fame who are unknown, not not didn't

0:48:51.160 --> 0:48:54.680
<v Speaker 1>have some influence on America. They weren't authors, but they

0:48:54.760 --> 0:48:59.120
<v Speaker 1>just represented a way of life and kind of stood

0:48:59.160 --> 0:49:04.080
<v Speaker 1>against the trend the age. And or Province is just

0:49:05.200 --> 0:49:12.759
<v Speaker 1>a classic Ozark hardworking logger, hillbilly. I mean, I interviewed

0:49:12.840 --> 0:49:15.640
<v Speaker 1>him when he was ninety two years old, and the

0:49:15.680 --> 0:49:18.840
<v Speaker 1>month after I interviewed him he died. He spent his

0:49:18.880 --> 0:49:22.800
<v Speaker 1>whole life in the logging woods, growing tomatoes, chicken farming,

0:49:23.360 --> 0:49:26.640
<v Speaker 1>and he killed two big bucks in the nineteen sixties

0:49:26.760 --> 0:49:29.320
<v Speaker 1>that were over scored over one hundred and eighty inches

0:49:29.520 --> 0:49:33.040
<v Speaker 1>two weeks apart and public land way out in Ozarks.

0:49:33.280 --> 0:49:35.719
<v Speaker 1>And Ori was just he just had a quality about

0:49:35.800 --> 0:49:38.759
<v Speaker 1>him that I just was like, this guy. I'll never

0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:43.080
<v Speaker 1>meet another guy quite like this. And Orley Province is

0:49:43.120 --> 0:49:50.240
<v Speaker 1>in the Hall of Fame. Holy Collier Callier man. People

0:49:50.280 --> 0:49:55.560
<v Speaker 1>talk to me about Hot Collier almost weekly, and we

0:49:55.600 --> 0:49:56.879
<v Speaker 1>did a series on him.

0:49:57.120 --> 0:49:57.480
<v Speaker 4>He was.

0:49:59.200 --> 0:50:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Enslaved, lived his early part of his life as a

0:50:03.000 --> 0:50:07.319
<v Speaker 1>slave in Mississippi, came out of that and was a

0:50:07.360 --> 0:50:10.960
<v Speaker 1>market hunter. Was credited with killing over three thousand bears

0:50:10.960 --> 0:50:14.480
<v Speaker 1>with dogs and the Mississippi swamps. But the main thing

0:50:14.560 --> 0:50:17.040
<v Speaker 1>that he did that put him on the map was

0:50:17.080 --> 0:50:21.439
<v Speaker 1>he guided Teddy Roosevelt on the famous bear hunt that

0:50:21.960 --> 0:50:25.480
<v Speaker 1>the Teddy Bear was coined because Hulk Callier lasso de

0:50:25.560 --> 0:50:27.960
<v Speaker 1>bear that was being bade by dogs, tied it to

0:50:28.000 --> 0:50:30.759
<v Speaker 1>a tree, went and got the President and said, Sarah,

0:50:30.840 --> 0:50:33.840
<v Speaker 1>have your bear for you to kill, and Roosevelt refused

0:50:33.840 --> 0:50:36.680
<v Speaker 1>to kill a tied bear. And it became this like

0:50:37.239 --> 0:50:40.720
<v Speaker 1>global phenomena of people writing about it, and they created

0:50:40.719 --> 0:50:45.399
<v Speaker 1>the Teddy Bear. Holt Callier maybe one of the will

0:50:45.480 --> 0:50:49.040
<v Speaker 1>the stories we've ever told. And what was so unique

0:50:49.040 --> 0:50:51.759
<v Speaker 1>about it too, was it was it was an untold

0:50:51.880 --> 0:50:55.640
<v Speaker 1>story in a way. Minor First Buchanan wrote an incredible

0:50:55.640 --> 0:51:00.520
<v Speaker 1>book about Holt and and Mina First became that is

0:51:00.520 --> 0:51:03.640
<v Speaker 1>alive today as a lawyer in Jackson, Mississippi, and he

0:51:04.239 --> 0:51:07.800
<v Speaker 1>basically just years ago started he'd heard little things about

0:51:07.840 --> 0:51:10.759
<v Speaker 1>Holt and went and started just doing research, and there

0:51:10.800 --> 0:51:13.120
<v Speaker 1>was very little written about him. And so he writes

0:51:13.160 --> 0:51:17.400
<v Speaker 1>this comprehensive book about Halt Collier's life and just just incredible.

0:51:17.560 --> 0:51:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if we could find stories like that, I mean,

0:51:21.560 --> 0:51:24.799
<v Speaker 1>we just do stories like that. The last guy on

0:51:24.840 --> 0:51:31.280
<v Speaker 1>the board right now is Takeumpsa, and Tkeumpsa was a

0:51:31.320 --> 0:51:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Shawnee Ward leader, wasn't even a chief. Considered by some

0:51:36.200 --> 0:51:40.000
<v Speaker 1>based upon the impact of his words. We have no

0:51:40.160 --> 0:51:43.040
<v Speaker 1>recording of what he said, but based upon the way

0:51:43.080 --> 0:51:48.799
<v Speaker 1>that people responded to him speaking, he's considered by many

0:51:49.360 --> 0:51:53.120
<v Speaker 1>historians as one of the greatest orators in American history.

0:51:53.920 --> 0:51:57.680
<v Speaker 1>We've never heard him. I think that's interesting. It's like,

0:51:57.719 --> 0:52:00.440
<v Speaker 1>it's not what you sound like, but it's what the

0:52:00.520 --> 0:52:04.680
<v Speaker 1>effects of what you say cause people to do, you know,

0:52:05.600 --> 0:52:09.000
<v Speaker 1>and uh, but to come. So he's he He and

0:52:09.040 --> 0:52:16.680
<v Speaker 1>his brother Tinsquatawa ten Squintawa had ten Squintawa was considered

0:52:16.719 --> 0:52:20.440
<v Speaker 1>a prophet, and he believed that he heard that they

0:52:20.480 --> 0:52:24.360
<v Speaker 1>were not supposed to integrate with with Europeans that were coming,

0:52:24.400 --> 0:52:29.719
<v Speaker 1>and they put up the the longest lasting, largest resistance

0:52:29.840 --> 0:52:34.400
<v Speaker 1>to the American expansion of any Native American tribe, and

0:52:34.480 --> 0:52:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Tokumsa gathered the largest army, and that's disputed in some

0:52:40.120 --> 0:52:46.279
<v Speaker 1>at times, but but comes heck of a guy. That's

0:52:46.280 --> 0:52:51.799
<v Speaker 1>where we're at. Okay, there have been two. So to

0:52:51.920 --> 0:52:53.799
<v Speaker 1>qualify to be in the Beargreas Hall of Fame, we

0:52:53.840 --> 0:52:56.439
<v Speaker 1>have to do a Burgrease podcast about you number one.

0:52:56.520 --> 0:52:58.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's kind of the way it goes.

0:52:58.239 --> 0:52:59.560
<v Speaker 2>It's like, I can't be in there.

0:53:00.120 --> 0:53:01.080
<v Speaker 1>You would be a shoe.

0:53:01.120 --> 0:53:04.080
<v Speaker 3>We'd have to do would he would.

0:53:03.920 --> 0:53:07.120
<v Speaker 1>Be a shoe in? Gary would be a shoe in?

0:53:09.239 --> 0:53:11.839
<v Speaker 1>Brent would be a shoe in Oh, of course Bear

0:53:11.920 --> 0:53:14.879
<v Speaker 1>would be a shoe in. Nope, Bear's too young, too long.

0:53:15.040 --> 0:53:19.600
<v Speaker 3>He just started drinking koffee thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So we did a series two years ago. And I

0:53:25.239 --> 0:53:30.280
<v Speaker 1>want to have a discussion around the man named David Crockett.

0:53:32.080 --> 0:53:35.960
<v Speaker 1>I never heard of him, and he will be I

0:53:36.000 --> 0:53:37.640
<v Speaker 1>want to have a little discussion and I'm going to

0:53:37.680 --> 0:53:39.360
<v Speaker 1>give a little pitch and I want to hear what

0:53:39.440 --> 0:53:43.120
<v Speaker 1>y'all say. There's some controversy around Crockett being in the

0:53:43.160 --> 0:53:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame. My friend Steve Ranella. When he hears

0:53:46.960 --> 0:53:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Daniel Boone and Davy Crockett in the same sentence compared

0:53:50.640 --> 0:53:55.000
<v Speaker 1>to each other, he chuckles and he says, there's no comparison.

0:53:55.640 --> 0:53:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Boone and Crockett are completely different. And the one reason

0:53:59.560 --> 0:54:02.799
<v Speaker 1>he says that, and I kind of I don't buy

0:54:02.840 --> 0:54:07.439
<v Speaker 1>it completely is Renella And this would be the only

0:54:07.520 --> 0:54:10.120
<v Speaker 1>thing that would stand against Crockett. This is probably bad

0:54:10.160 --> 0:54:12.480
<v Speaker 1>that I'm starting out with the negatives, gonna.

0:54:12.440 --> 0:54:13.879
<v Speaker 2>Here's why you shouldn't vote for him.

0:54:14.520 --> 0:54:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't know they I just want us to

0:54:17.239 --> 0:54:22.439
<v Speaker 1>be sure, is uh. Crockett was probably a little bit

0:54:23.120 --> 0:54:27.800
<v Speaker 1>enamored with himself and his fame show Bot. He even

0:54:27.800 --> 0:54:31.200
<v Speaker 1>in his autobiography when you read it, there was it's

0:54:31.280 --> 0:54:34.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of like that became the hedgemnd later in his life.

0:54:34.600 --> 0:54:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Now he died when he was like forty six or

0:54:37.480 --> 0:54:39.680
<v Speaker 1>forty seven. I can't remember exactly how old he was

0:54:39.719 --> 0:54:42.799
<v Speaker 1>when he died. He died in eighteen thirty six. But

0:54:42.920 --> 0:54:46.839
<v Speaker 1>he it kind of gets under your skin, just a

0:54:47.040 --> 0:54:52.719
<v Speaker 1>just a hair. And he went to a play, and

0:54:52.719 --> 0:54:55.239
<v Speaker 1>this is what gets Steve Ranella. He went to his

0:54:55.360 --> 0:55:01.440
<v Speaker 1>own play in New York City and basically kind of

0:55:01.680 --> 0:55:04.080
<v Speaker 1>took the accolade. There was a there was a play

0:55:04.120 --> 0:55:09.400
<v Speaker 1>that was put on and the main character was essentially

0:55:09.520 --> 0:55:12.759
<v Speaker 1>David Crockett in his lifetime, but they didn't call him

0:55:12.800 --> 0:55:16.719
<v Speaker 1>David Crockett. They called him Nimrod Wildfire. But clearly the

0:55:16.760 --> 0:55:20.640
<v Speaker 1>man who was Nimrod Wildfire was Crockett. Crockett had so

0:55:20.760 --> 0:55:24.520
<v Speaker 1>much global fame. Crockett was like the first big time

0:55:24.600 --> 0:55:29.880
<v Speaker 1>American celebrity was a bear hunter America. Are you listening

0:55:29.920 --> 0:55:34.880
<v Speaker 1>to me? The first many, not just not just hunters

0:55:34.920 --> 0:55:37.920
<v Speaker 1>say this, but like historians say, one of the first

0:55:38.600 --> 0:55:43.560
<v Speaker 1>true global national celebrities was David Crockett, King of the

0:55:43.560 --> 0:55:47.319
<v Speaker 1>Wild Frontier. That's right, and but but do you see

0:55:47.320 --> 0:55:50.240
<v Speaker 1>that kind of the self aggrandizement of just a touch

0:55:50.320 --> 0:55:50.880
<v Speaker 1>with Crockett?

0:55:50.920 --> 0:55:53.320
<v Speaker 3>It's down you've been holding that one in your pocket?

0:55:53.920 --> 0:55:54.239
<v Speaker 3>What's that?

0:55:55.640 --> 0:55:59.440
<v Speaker 1>I should have said that first you hit me? And

0:55:59.440 --> 0:56:03.560
<v Speaker 1>they had like a but listen to this, y'all ready

0:56:03.560 --> 0:56:07.000
<v Speaker 1>for this. He died when he was forty five. I

0:56:07.040 --> 0:56:11.040
<v Speaker 1>think he would have worked through it. I think I

0:56:11.080 --> 0:56:14.759
<v Speaker 1>think if we'd have seen a Crockett boone lived till

0:56:14.800 --> 0:56:18.840
<v Speaker 1>he was eighty four. Crockett lived till he was forty five,

0:56:19.840 --> 0:56:24.560
<v Speaker 1>and he had he came from abject poverty to national

0:56:24.640 --> 0:56:27.520
<v Speaker 1>fame to potentially even be in the president of the

0:56:27.640 --> 0:56:31.200
<v Speaker 1>United States. They were going to put him as President

0:56:31.239 --> 0:56:35.799
<v Speaker 1>of the United States, and this country boy had no

0:56:36.760 --> 0:56:40.960
<v Speaker 1>ability to I mean, it just takes time for someone

0:56:41.000 --> 0:56:44.839
<v Speaker 1>to kind of walk through that level of like notoriety,

0:56:45.360 --> 0:56:46.920
<v Speaker 1>and he was kind of enamored with it.

0:56:47.920 --> 0:56:48.799
<v Speaker 3>And so I.

0:56:50.360 --> 0:56:52.520
<v Speaker 1>I want to give him a little bit of sympathy

0:56:52.680 --> 0:56:55.680
<v Speaker 1>inside of that, because again that's what Steve would discredit

0:56:55.800 --> 0:56:58.000
<v Speaker 1>him for and be like, you don't need Crockett in there,

0:56:58.040 --> 0:57:02.600
<v Speaker 1>and Steve didn't say that, but Steve's not here and

0:57:02.680 --> 0:57:04.120
<v Speaker 1>you you might not be here.

0:57:04.680 --> 0:57:08.480
<v Speaker 6>He hears about.

0:57:09.800 --> 0:57:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Stella is listening, please send me an email. Let's see,

0:57:13.640 --> 0:57:19.960
<v Speaker 1>let's see how this goes. But but basically what Crockett

0:57:20.000 --> 0:57:24.960
<v Speaker 1>did is is he he became a state representative and

0:57:25.280 --> 0:57:29.720
<v Speaker 1>he was in political office, and he gained national fame

0:57:30.560 --> 0:57:34.560
<v Speaker 1>and then he ends up dying in the Alamo in

0:57:34.640 --> 0:57:36.520
<v Speaker 1>a war that he probably shouldn't have even been in

0:57:37.080 --> 0:57:40.000
<v Speaker 1>in America. Has made it like he was going down

0:57:40.080 --> 0:57:43.320
<v Speaker 1>there because he was a patriot and all this, I mean,

0:57:43.360 --> 0:57:45.360
<v Speaker 1>he it wasn't even an American war.

0:57:45.880 --> 0:57:48.800
<v Speaker 5>He was a little bit rejected by by his own

0:57:48.840 --> 0:57:51.520
<v Speaker 5>people for his stance on Native American lands.

0:57:51.680 --> 0:57:54.160
<v Speaker 1>That was a big part of it. Yeah, and that

0:57:54.160 --> 0:57:56.200
<v Speaker 1>that is also Do you think.

0:57:56.040 --> 0:57:58.320
<v Speaker 2>He would have worked through it because he experienced suffering?

0:57:58.720 --> 0:58:02.720
<v Speaker 1>He uh, he experienced a lot of suffering in his life.

0:58:02.760 --> 0:58:09.000
<v Speaker 1>He lost a wife and he.

0:58:09.640 --> 0:58:09.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:58:09.880 --> 0:58:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. When Andrew Jackson came out with the Indian Removal

0:58:13.560 --> 0:58:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Act of eighteen thirty, it would have been in his

0:58:17.000 --> 0:58:21.840
<v Speaker 1>favor politically to get behind that, but he chose to

0:58:21.840 --> 0:58:24.840
<v Speaker 1>make a big stance in saying, no, this is wrong

0:58:25.200 --> 0:58:29.120
<v Speaker 1>with these people. And I appreciated that. What do y'all think?

0:58:29.160 --> 0:58:29.800
<v Speaker 1>What do you think, Brent?

0:58:29.960 --> 0:58:33.920
<v Speaker 4>I mean just I think no, I think all the

0:58:33.920 --> 0:58:37.640
<v Speaker 4>stuff about him being full of himself or whatever his conjecture,

0:58:38.160 --> 0:58:40.000
<v Speaker 4>you got to look at the facts of what he did,

0:58:41.400 --> 0:58:43.920
<v Speaker 4>whether he was at the Alamo because he took a

0:58:43.960 --> 0:58:48.640
<v Speaker 4>wrong turn in Albuquerque or however he got there. You

0:58:48.680 --> 0:58:51.480
<v Speaker 4>look at it at what he stood for his stance

0:58:51.520 --> 0:58:56.760
<v Speaker 4>on Native American lands. I think the positive outweigh the

0:58:56.840 --> 0:59:02.120
<v Speaker 4>conjecture or the focus that put on his celebrity, because

0:59:02.120 --> 0:59:05.320
<v Speaker 4>a lot of times when you have a detractor. Someone's

0:59:05.400 --> 0:59:08.400
<v Speaker 4>talking bad about somebody, it's out of jealousy, a position

0:59:08.480 --> 0:59:13.040
<v Speaker 4>of like, uh, you know, he's not superior to me,

0:59:13.200 --> 0:59:16.840
<v Speaker 4>so I'm going to cast the spursions at him. And

0:59:17.120 --> 0:59:20.360
<v Speaker 4>so I think you got a look at the at

0:59:20.360 --> 0:59:22.760
<v Speaker 4>what he did and what he stood for, and if

0:59:22.800 --> 0:59:26.000
<v Speaker 4>he stood for what was going on down there in

0:59:26.400 --> 0:59:29.439
<v Speaker 4>the Alamo and for the Native Americans, that's good enough

0:59:29.480 --> 0:59:32.160
<v Speaker 4>for me in a time where that was it wasn't

0:59:32.160 --> 0:59:35.080
<v Speaker 4>like taking a stand now, you know. I mean he

0:59:35.200 --> 0:59:38.040
<v Speaker 4>was doing it when there he had no other allies

0:59:38.120 --> 0:59:41.160
<v Speaker 4>other than the folks that were being persecuted, who had

0:59:41.200 --> 0:59:43.000
<v Speaker 4>nothing to stand on to begin with. I mean that

0:59:43.080 --> 0:59:47.840
<v Speaker 4>was when them folks got to the Alamo down there,

0:59:48.160 --> 0:59:53.040
<v Speaker 4>I mean they were peeing in the wind, thinking they

0:59:53.040 --> 0:59:55.680
<v Speaker 4>were going to win that one. It was not going

0:59:55.720 --> 0:59:58.760
<v Speaker 4>to come out good. And yet they stayed and fought

0:59:58.760 --> 1:00:01.360
<v Speaker 4>it out to the last man. Whether or not we

1:00:01.440 --> 1:00:03.360
<v Speaker 4>had we had the big debate on whether he went

1:00:03.440 --> 1:00:04.480
<v Speaker 4>down swinging.

1:00:04.200 --> 1:00:08.959
<v Speaker 3>Or got captured. Yeah, but regardless, he was there. Yeah,

1:00:09.080 --> 1:00:12.640
<v Speaker 3>So that's a that's a positive for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Crockett also had a lot of influence on American politics.

1:00:25.280 --> 1:00:29.200
<v Speaker 1>He was the first so imagine world politics, like coming

1:00:29.240 --> 1:00:33.520
<v Speaker 1>out of Europe and there were these aristocratic, highly educated,

1:00:34.760 --> 1:00:41.440
<v Speaker 1>uh wealthy people that ran governments across the world. This

1:00:41.480 --> 1:00:44.480
<v Speaker 1>is simplification, but you could almost put a period after that,

1:00:45.040 --> 1:00:49.040
<v Speaker 1>like the aristocracy ran the world. We came over to

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<v Speaker 1>America and we kind of liked to have this idea

1:00:51.440 --> 1:00:54.480
<v Speaker 1>that things were different, but honestly, things were quite a

1:00:54.480 --> 1:00:57.920
<v Speaker 1>bit the same. I mean, Washington and Franklin and all

1:00:57.920 --> 1:01:00.920
<v Speaker 1>these guys. They were not just like average guys that

1:01:01.000 --> 1:01:04.560
<v Speaker 1>were out there shoet horses and stuff. You know, these

1:01:04.880 --> 1:01:14.440
<v Speaker 1>guys had money. Crockett was the first populist, folk backwoods

1:01:14.880 --> 1:01:20.400
<v Speaker 1>politician that brought something up that's still here today. He

1:01:20.840 --> 1:01:23.200
<v Speaker 1>was the first guy. They called him the man from

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<v Speaker 1>the cane and the cane, referring to the great cane

1:01:26.640 --> 1:01:30.080
<v Speaker 1>thickets that they hunted bear. It was a derogatory term

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<v Speaker 1>that one of the elites in the Tennessee legislator called

1:01:35.160 --> 1:01:37.720
<v Speaker 1>him when he was a young politician. He said, how

1:01:37.720 --> 1:01:40.080
<v Speaker 1>about the gentleman from the cane tell us it basically

1:01:40.240 --> 1:01:42.439
<v Speaker 1>was like the hill billy from the sticks. Why don't

1:01:42.480 --> 1:01:46.120
<v Speaker 1>we let him talk? And Crockett comes back in the

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<v Speaker 1>next day wearing a big. He's wearing his buckskins, but

1:01:51.760 --> 1:01:53.920
<v Speaker 1>a ruffle like these guys wore that. He was a

1:01:53.960 --> 1:01:57.720
<v Speaker 1>fashion trend to wear those big, like roughly necklaces. And

1:01:57.800 --> 1:01:59.920
<v Speaker 1>he came in and made a laughing stock of the

1:02:00.000 --> 1:02:03.840
<v Speaker 1>those guys, and and and spoke very off the cuff,

1:02:04.000 --> 1:02:08.720
<v Speaker 1>very informal. He spoke like the people spoke. And he

1:02:08.920 --> 1:02:17.600
<v Speaker 1>became and he became America's first populist backwoods politician. And

1:02:17.680 --> 1:02:21.200
<v Speaker 1>today that's how people win politics in this country. Not always,

1:02:21.360 --> 1:02:24.160
<v Speaker 1>but but they but they appeal to the common man

1:02:24.800 --> 1:02:27.400
<v Speaker 1>and they say, I'm one of you. I'm not from

1:02:27.440 --> 1:02:31.000
<v Speaker 1>the elite, you know. So anyway, Crockett had a ton

1:02:31.040 --> 1:02:35.760
<v Speaker 1>of influence on the idea of what America was. And

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<v Speaker 1>so Bear anybody else have any thoughts on Crockett before

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<v Speaker 1>we officially nominate him as a as a Bear Grease

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Famer. I mean, I think of backwoods politician

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<v Speaker 1>from what from what you described, I don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>I at that time would have been listening to any podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, I never really listened to

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<v Speaker 1>that podcast. From what you described, I'd say, he's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I would like hereby as the is there anything I

1:03:11.560 --> 1:03:16.960
<v Speaker 1>should put my right hand on. Put it on the

1:03:17.000 --> 1:03:19.600
<v Speaker 1>sound of the bear track, the bear track. I'm going

1:03:19.680 --> 1:03:21.560
<v Speaker 1>to place my right hand on the bear track. And

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to officially nominate David Crockett as inducted

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<v Speaker 1>into the Bear Grease Hall of Fame. Could we have

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<v Speaker 1>a show of hands for all people that I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you got a second second? Em all right, raise your

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<v Speaker 1>hand if you would. Let's let's do an eye.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we should do my voice. This is a podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody, everybody that a favor say I. All oppositions say nay.

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<v Speaker 1>Eyes have it. David Crockett inducted into the Gratulations.

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<v Speaker 3>Where are your hat?

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<v Speaker 1>Just really got to get these buttons worked out.

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<v Speaker 3>There?

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<v Speaker 1>I go, okay, okay, wow, it feels really great. This

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<v Speaker 1>has been a long time coming. Crockett's in.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, what is Davy Crockett, David Crockett or Holy Crockett.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you should be Holy. I think that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Dodge Crockett.

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<v Speaker 1>He will go in. It's David Crockett. Okay, yeah, David Crockett. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Moving on second order of business. I would like to

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<v Speaker 1>consider and I find this very interesting that yesterday I

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<v Speaker 1>got this in the mail with no return address. I

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea who sent this, but somehow they got

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<v Speaker 1>the address to the headquarters here and they sent me

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<v Speaker 1>this sticker. Came in the mail yesterday, the fla I

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<v Speaker 1>got it, I got it, got it. Oh, how cool

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<v Speaker 1>is that?

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<v Speaker 3>That's pretty cool?

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty cool?

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<v Speaker 3>Huh? That is Granny Henderson.

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<v Speaker 1>Avid Barnes Henderson. I I think Granny deserves a spot

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<v Speaker 1>in the Beargeris Hall of Fame. Granny Grannie Henderson was

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<v Speaker 1>a core character in our Buffalo River series. And so

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<v Speaker 1>Granny Henderson was born in the in the eighteen nineties

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<v Speaker 1>and she died in the late nineteen seventies, and she

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<v Speaker 1>was the last person on the Buffalo River, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the last holdouts on the Buffalo River. When when the

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<v Speaker 1>National Park System came in and acquired the ninety five

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<v Speaker 1>thousand acres that now make up the Buffalo National River,

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<v Speaker 1>we did we did a series that just was it

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<v Speaker 1>was I'm still torn to this day because the series

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<v Speaker 1>clearly was geared towards telling the story of the people

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<v Speaker 1>that lost land. That land was essentially taken from the Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they were paid land, they were paid for it. But Granny,

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<v Speaker 1>her house is still intact and is in the center

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<v Speaker 1>of the Buffalo River Wilderness and people go there. We've

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<v Speaker 1>been there, and I spoke with Grannie's Granny's daughter, who

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<v Speaker 1>was just a delightful lady who told me stories all

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<v Speaker 1>about Granny and yeah, Jane Kilgore, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And.

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<v Speaker 1>Granny was a symbol of resistance. And on the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>we called her a martyr because she died within three

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<v Speaker 1>months of being moved out of the house that her

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<v Speaker 1>and her husband built in the early nineteen hundreds. She

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<v Speaker 1>got married when she was real young. They built a

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<v Speaker 1>house down on the Buffalo River in just this incredible place,

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<v Speaker 1>and she didn't want to move. And her husband died

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<v Speaker 1>years and years before and and finally, I mean Granny

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<v Speaker 1>was in her eighties and every all her neighbors were gone,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody was gone, and the family just was like, Granny,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you just need to sell. And she she

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<v Speaker 1>had gotten a lawyer and had was word you know

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<v Speaker 1>it could, tried to litigate it in court to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to keep her land that her parents had bought

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<v Speaker 1>her and and and finally they said, Granny, you just

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<v Speaker 1>need to you just need to go. And the park

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<v Speaker 1>built her a house like a mile away on top

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<v Speaker 1>of the mountain near the county road, built her a

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<v Speaker 1>new house, gave her a dishwasher and a washing machine,

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<v Speaker 1>and she went into that house and stayed there one

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<v Speaker 1>night and said I can't do it, and she went

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<v Speaker 1>and stayed with her and three months later she died

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<v Speaker 1>and they say she died of a broken heart. And

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<v Speaker 1>uh in in in the in the series, what was

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<v Speaker 1>so cool? And this is something that I'd never heard,

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<v Speaker 1>but we we got this original recording of an interview

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<v Speaker 1>with Granny and we got to hear her talk and

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<v Speaker 1>hear her voice and it was just really cool. And

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<v Speaker 1>what thoughts on Granny Henderson being in the bear Ground.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm one hundred percent for it because I think that

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<v Speaker 3>I think she, but not only she, but her way

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<v Speaker 3>of life is iconic to to who we are as Americans,

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<v Speaker 3>and that that icon is fading in the distance, and

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<v Speaker 3>so I think she is a woman who can represent

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<v Speaker 3>that way of life in this and so I'm one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred percent for it.

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<v Speaker 1>M hm. And we got these great stickers.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 5>I definitely I would second it out for sure. I Mean,

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<v Speaker 5>I think that Granny carrying those big old things of

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<v Speaker 5>water yea. At her age and hunting easter age.

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<v Speaker 1>She got hit by a copperhead. Uh yeah, twice or

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<v Speaker 1>four times.

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<v Speaker 3>At least twice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's like I think twice, multiple times, multiple times

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<v Speaker 1>she got bet by copperhead, never went to the doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>fed the pigs to the pigs. Yeah yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think she I agree with Josh.

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<v Speaker 1>She is.

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<v Speaker 2>She's iconic and and she deserves it.

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<v Speaker 1>She deserves she deserves it.

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<v Speaker 5>She represents not just about America, but also bear grease

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<v Speaker 5>and kind of the heart of bears.

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<v Speaker 1>She'll be our she'll be our first lady on here

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<v Speaker 1>as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh we ain't voted yet. Well, if she is, we

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<v Speaker 4>we are. We just taking her for consideration. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 4>calling for a vote.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a man that's called for a vote.

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<v Speaker 3>A second.

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<v Speaker 1>Record show everyone who would like stick.

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<v Speaker 2>Around about parliamentary procedure, and I appreciate.

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<v Speaker 3>That I get the chance to do it right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, all right, everybody who would like to induct

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<v Speaker 1>induct Ava Barnes Henderson, also known as Granny Henderson, also

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<v Speaker 1>known as EV to the people on the river, I

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<v Speaker 1>would like all them what am I.

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<v Speaker 3>Supposed to say?

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<v Speaker 1>All oppositions say Nay, we have it. Grannie Henderson. Granny

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<v Speaker 1>Henderson is here. Yeah, there we go.

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<v Speaker 3>This one's really getting the plot.

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want it to look like we knew this

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<v Speaker 1>was going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>But just just in case, you had.

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<v Speaker 1>Just in case we had made Davy Crockett and Ava

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<v Speaker 1>Granny Barnes Henderson's and it says Buffalo River Martyr, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>What does what does David Crockett say?

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee backwoods?

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<v Speaker 2>Tennessee's got some pretty good representation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Tennessee, Man, it's great place. I love Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 2>And oh holy from Mississippi.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, do y'all have anybody else that what about Astola? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Codered about question four part series Insola. Well, what's your pitch?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think he should be in the Hall of Fame?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean yeah, I think he's kind of like, uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's similar to like Daniel Boone and Davy

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<v Speaker 1>Crockett would be to Cumsa in Ostola.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think everything that you've talked about for

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<v Speaker 1>like Davy Crockett, his influence on the people kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like just like rising up. I think Astola is like

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<v Speaker 1>right there, the exact same thing. He just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>rose up out of the Florida I guess it was

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<v Speaker 1>just the Everglades or seminal territory down there, and then

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<v Speaker 1>let a bunch of people. I think Osciola checks all

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<v Speaker 1>the marks that the other people on the Hall of

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<v Speaker 1>Fame checks.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Granny he was a martyr.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, carries the unique designation that Bear has listened to

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<v Speaker 5>his podcast yep, hey.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, I want to go all four parts and saying

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<v Speaker 4>that is anybody noticed Bear only used to say yep.

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<v Speaker 4>And now he makes very valid points and sometimes he's talking.

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<v Speaker 4>I wish he'd be quiet so I could say something outstand.

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<v Speaker 7>It's very good.

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<v Speaker 3>So so I'm not saying I disagree. The one the

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<v Speaker 3>one question I have about Ostiola is that we don't

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<v Speaker 3>know a whole lot about him. Like we know, we

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<v Speaker 3>know like what happened to him, but we don't know

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<v Speaker 3>necessarily what kind of character the man had. We don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if he was.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's the Josh and I talked about this beforehand,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't well, I actually, what do you think, Brent?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you do you remember much about the Ostiola series?

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<v Speaker 4>I do remember, you know, the my favorite part of

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<v Speaker 4>that was the lady that was doing the research.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Wickman. Yeah, maybe we should induct doctor wick.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe we should.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh it would I would probably have to go back

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<v Speaker 4>and listen to some of them, But I mean, not

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<v Speaker 4>everybody has John Anderson write a song about it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>That is definitely a plain It's a big place. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you remember much about Osciola Dad?

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<v Speaker 3>Not a lot.

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<v Speaker 6>I think he's worthy of being on there. But you know,

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<v Speaker 6>if it came down to my vote, I'd like to

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<v Speaker 6>listen to those podcasts again. But I think he's I

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<v Speaker 6>think he's worthy.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean.

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<v Speaker 6>We're talking about him. Yeah, embars for him.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a difference between iconic and famous.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, well, okay, I don't remember anything negative about

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<v Speaker 5>his character.

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<v Speaker 1>Well see, that's that's kind of just the point when

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<v Speaker 1>you when I did the whole series on Ostiola, you

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<v Speaker 1>come away with a lot of questions about who he

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<v Speaker 1>actually was as compared to it tokumpsa or a crocodd

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<v Speaker 1>or a boon You. Uh, we skipped James Lawrence.

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<v Speaker 3>You did not, got it?

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<v Speaker 1>I skipped James Lawrence.

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<v Speaker 3>Shokes we got to talk about James definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how I did that Osciola. You you you,

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<v Speaker 1>you really don't get a great picture of who he

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<v Speaker 1>was us. There's not a lot recorded of like what

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<v Speaker 1>he said, yeah, exactly, so there's a lot about what

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<v Speaker 1>he did. Is his influence on people. You see little

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<v Speaker 1>vignettes of of kind of maybe an interaction he had

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<v Speaker 1>with someone, but he he's kind of obscure. You don't,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't really you kind of see a shadow almost,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't really see him. And that's the only reason

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<v Speaker 1>that I wouldn't have initially just been like he's a

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<v Speaker 1>shoe in. I felt like we knew who Tokumpsa was

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<v Speaker 1>when we got done with That Comes to Series, because

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<v Speaker 1>so much of what he said was actually written down,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there were a lot of people that talked

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<v Speaker 1>about him, that interacted with him. Osceola was such a

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<v Speaker 1>renegade living in the Everglades that he did have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of interaction with Europeans and different things.

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<v Speaker 4>But well, there's a reason why you have an honorable.

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<v Speaker 3>M hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting, maybe a second smaller plaque or back.

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<v Speaker 2>On the side.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So it's if I were if I if I

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<v Speaker 1>would say it's not for any fault of his but

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't have. I just couldn't quite put my

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<v Speaker 1>hands on him.

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<v Speaker 5>It's tricky to me because by the same metrics, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>you measure his impact and you measure to me. I

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<v Speaker 5>think his perseverance is a measure of character, his his

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<v Speaker 5>decision to stand against the tide and to and to resist.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think that is resistance.

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<v Speaker 3>Resistance, Yeah, that's a big one. Yeah, definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>Plus yeah, I have respect for that.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's resistance against injustice, not just you aren't convincing

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<v Speaker 3>to me now, not just resistance.

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<v Speaker 5>And resistance against be bought out and being I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>he resisted not just in justice, but also the lure

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<v Speaker 5>of of wealth. I'm sure you know he had opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>To opportunity to sell out his lamb.

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<v Speaker 2>And he didn't. And that's that says something.

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<v Speaker 1>And and the Seminoles are still down here.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel swayed now too. All the Texas just a

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<v Speaker 3>little jabber.

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<v Speaker 2>Jabber, Wow, Bear and I we're in. I think I

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<v Speaker 2>can speak well.

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<v Speaker 1>I would like I would like I would like to

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<v Speaker 1>do something that only a true dictator could do. Is

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give you Bear the authority to nominate him,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll vote but you'll have to lead it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you really feel like you should do this, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we should. I think we should nominate him

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<v Speaker 1>because I think it's based on when you went the resistant, like.

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<v Speaker 3>Let them.

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<v Speaker 1>Dictators choose when their friends get to see.

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<v Speaker 3>No coffee, but you can speak.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think like we maybe couldn't fully understand

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<v Speaker 1>his character or anything, but I think you could look

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<v Speaker 1>at like the product of his work and the impact

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<v Speaker 1>that he had and can kind of assume that that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't come from just like you know that that came

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<v Speaker 1>from some really strong characteristics that are worth that you

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<v Speaker 1>know could make him worthy of being on the Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Fame. I think, even though we can't intually put

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<v Speaker 1>our hand on it, I think you could look at

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<v Speaker 1>the the like fruit of his life and see that

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was correlated with the Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're right traits and he isn't John Anderson

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<v Speaker 1>song yeap.

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<v Speaker 3>So along with that, what would his what would his

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<v Speaker 3>descriptor be.

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<v Speaker 1>Resistance? You know, we have to think about the words.

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<v Speaker 3>It was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was not a heretical chief. He was just a

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<v Speaker 1>war leader. He just the way those systems work. It's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to even understand it, but they just rose based

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<v Speaker 1>upon merit.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it should be if it's approved, it is

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<v Speaker 4>plain and simple.

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<v Speaker 1>Osceola seminole, seminole and may leader of Seminole resistance. But

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<v Speaker 1>to me, what what what he stood out there, like

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of wanted to grab hold of, is that

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<v Speaker 1>every single thing was telling them that they should give

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<v Speaker 1>in and they could not win this fight. And yet

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it ended up being five hundred of them

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<v Speaker 1>that were resisting. The entire United States military. It had

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<v Speaker 1>spent fifty million dollars over a twenty year period trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get these these seminoles out of Florida, and they

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<v Speaker 1>just finally were just like, you know what, just stay

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<v Speaker 1>down there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so let's put it to a vote where.

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<v Speaker 5>And you can't you can't fault Daniel Boone or Davy

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<v Speaker 5>Crockett for being a guy who wanted Achel Aid didn't

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<v Speaker 5>want to. You know, there's an argument to be made

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<v Speaker 5>that Osiola we don't know much about him because.

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<v Speaker 3>He oh wow, he didn't want thirty three.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what I said. I said, because he didn't want

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<v Speaker 5>much known about him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's almost got to give him.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish Stirling Hard Joe were here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no kidding, he'd convince us all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, and again. My initial reluctance was not anything

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<v Speaker 1>against Ostiola. I just didn't quite feel like I know him.

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<v Speaker 1>But now y'all have convinced me that I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really have to know him to qualify here. Well, Barrett, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so I want you to do the official nomination and

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<v Speaker 1>lead us here. We are officially nominating Osciola, leader of

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<v Speaker 1>the Seminal Resistance. All in favor, say, I I.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't second.

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<v Speaker 3>We need a second for this second?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, All in favor?

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, I just what again we have to do to

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<v Speaker 3>all the posts?

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<v Speaker 1>OLLI post? Say nay, wow, we got real shocker. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Ostiola talk about James Lawrence. Yeah, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>I missed James Lawrence. James Lawrence is my dear friend

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<v Speaker 1>from from here in Arkansas. Just to me, he was

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<v Speaker 1>uh he he. One of the first episodes of Bear

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<v Speaker 1>Grease was about James, and to me, on a real

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<v Speaker 1>personal level, he just kind of represented this this Arkansas backwoodsman,

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<v Speaker 1>never asking for fame, never would have just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>lived his life without much accolade, but just a really

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<v Speaker 1>just loves just a true American sportsman and uh in

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<v Speaker 1>a in a mentor to me and the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>being Arkansas backwoodsman.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, and the world would be a better place

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<v Speaker 3>if there were more James Lawrence's out there there. Does

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<v Speaker 3>it show on the plaque.

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<v Speaker 1>It says Arkansas backwoodsman. Now, you wouldn't have wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>have got on James wrong side back in the seventies.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me just say that he did probably knock the

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<v Speaker 1>teeth out, yeah, yeah, not yeah, he told me one

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<v Speaker 1>time somebody made him mad and he rode his motorcycle

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<v Speaker 1>down in their front yard and whooped him on their

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<v Speaker 1>front porch.

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<v Speaker 3>Then then definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they just needed well productive meeting, productive meeting. Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>well Josh, we got to get another. We got to

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<v Speaker 1>get one for Austin.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll get it, I'll get it, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So this is going to hang in a prominent

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<v Speaker 1>place probably probably over here somewhere, but there we have it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's like it all right, all right, thanks guys for

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<v Speaker 1>for listening. We uh today we did get Yeah, Brent,

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<v Speaker 1>it's good to see you.

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<v Speaker 3>Glad you're back, yes, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, Misty, good to see you. Good to be here, everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>The Oches keep the wild places wild because that's the

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<v Speaker 3>Where the Ringers love