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Big episode because we have Tennessee 28 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: coach Rick Barnes Tennessee basketball, which is pretty cool, and 29 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: I got to go, hey, why an't you having us over? Yeah, Mike, 30 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: you telling us no, got him? Got him? And then 31 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: we'll talk NFL draft with Dane Brugler, who does the Beast. 32 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: It is the most extensive draft situation in all the sports. 33 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: And I'm an. I subscribe to the Athletics, so I 34 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: read it. So that's coming up. Now, Masters is happening. Now, 35 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: love it? Yeah, I was just gonna gage your excitement level. 36 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,639 Speaker 3: I love it, dude. I love the Masters. My favorite 37 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 3: golf tournament. I would even say, like right after March Madness, 38 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 3: that's probably my second biggest sports event that I love 39 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:05,559 Speaker 3: to watch. 40 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: But do you love Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday? Oh yeah, 41 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,839 Speaker 1: because I love Sunday. Oh no, I love the starting day. 42 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: I like to bet who's gonna miss the cut. It 43 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: was just a negative bet, you know, Like I realized 44 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: later after doing it, like four years in a row, 45 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: I should probably not do that bet because it just 46 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: make me feel good to bet on the misses. Yeah, oh, 47 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: you're the guy at the crash table who bets on 48 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: the don't pass. 49 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: I know it's usually Tiger that I picked, but he's 50 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 3: not playing this year, so it was a little tougher. 51 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a gross one. 52 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: I should really stop doing that. 53 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I'm I'm in a couple of like pools, 54 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: Like friends have had Masters pools, and you have like 55 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 1: a salary cap and you pick players within the salary cap. 56 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 3: Who was your your main, your big your big. 57 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: Dog Rory Because he wasn't the most expensive, but I 58 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: think he was second or third. Did you did you bet? 59 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 3: I did? 60 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 4: I know. 61 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 3: I did a pool too. Mine was Scheffler. 62 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: I just feel like he was the most expensive. Yeah, 63 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: he's a favorite. 64 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's it's like when you look at the Masters, 65 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 3: there are I don't know one hundred and fifty players. 66 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 3: Like there's so many people on the leader board on 67 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 3: Thursdays that like it's pretty easy for like one of 68 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 3: those middle guys to be a top ten player. 69 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: It's hard to win betting golf. 70 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 3: It's tough. 71 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: I've struggled because there's so many players, so many players, 72 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: and it's also like the best kid just be off, yeah, 73 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: like be having a bad day or get arrested. 74 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 4: True. 75 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 3: You know what's really tough about this now is that, 76 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 3: like you try to study golf all year, right, Like, 77 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: say you're a golf fan, you watch PGA live. Really 78 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 3: isn't on TV as much. I think it's on CW, Like, 79 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 3: really don't watch live. So you look at PGA right 80 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 3: every week, Rory Scheffler, More Kawa, those guys are the 81 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 3: ones leading those tournaments. But then you get the Masters 82 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 3: and you get everyone comes back. You got Sergio Garcia back, 83 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 3: you got John romback, Deshambau and so now you're just like, 84 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 3: I don't even know who's good anymore. I haven't seen 85 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: Deschambaud play in a long time. 86 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: Because he's playing live. 87 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't know. 88 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: Here the sixth in the pool that we had ad 89 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: r Morecawa mats Yama speeth burns because I played with him. 90 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's literally. 91 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: See, you got all PGA guys and Maxholma, who's not 92 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: he's a PGA guy. He's a lived guy. 93 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 3: No, he's a he's a PGA guy. Hasn't really been 94 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 3: playing well lately though. 95 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: He's be playing terrible lately. Yeah, he doesn't live at all. 96 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 4: Huh. 97 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: Ever maybe at the beginning, but no, he's PGA guy. 98 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: I know he's been playing. I already interview with him 99 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: and he's like, I suck, Yeah, he says that. Yeah, 100 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: he's like a living sucking Yeah, yeah, I wonder what 101 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: that is, Like, I'm sure it's mental. Of course. I 102 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: think it's all mental. 103 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 3: Because those guys are just good. I always I. 104 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: Didn't invite you to play golf. Eddie wasn't able to play, 105 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 1: like I can't if I've played golf at all, and 106 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: I've got two golf tournaments coming up, celebty golf tournaments. 107 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: Got a play. 108 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 3: You gotta get warmed up. 109 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: I haven't played at all in like a year, and if. 110 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 3: Sometimes you're better like that, though, like you haven't not 111 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 3: really really not really. 112 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 5: No. 113 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 3: It's like sometimes when I don't play for like three 114 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 3: months and I go back and play, I'm like, wow, 115 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: like not bad, but I. 116 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: But I can't play eighteen holes good after not playing 117 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: at all. So I was like, hey, you wanna play 118 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: play Friday, and he's like, I can't. 119 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 3: My mom is coming down to birthday. 120 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: I'm a member of club. I haven't been once really 121 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: since they opened back up. They opened up over a 122 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: year ago, so I think I've been three times in 123 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: a year and a half. Remember it was it last 124 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: year two years ago. That's all weird. We've been doing 125 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: it all the time. I now have been more of 126 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: a pickleball guy for a couple of reasons. One because 127 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: it's a workout. Two it's only an hour not four. Yeah, 128 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: it's hard for it. It's really with all these podcasts 129 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: I have taken on and luckily the Yellowstone's over and 130 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: there's it's getting slight. It's just hard to have four 131 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: hours in the day. Yeah, so it's like a twelve 132 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: whole course. 133 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 3: That's stupid. 134 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: No, that's what you could just you could just go 135 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 1: play nine home camp play. No, that's like not quite enough. 136 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: I need a little bit more. 137 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 3: It's the same thing as twelve. You're not finishing your game. 138 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 3: It's like playing like four innings of a game and 139 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 3: being like I'm done. 140 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 6: Like fifteen through eighteen, You're like, all right, we almost 141 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 6: through it. Here we go like because it's pretty dumb, 142 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 6: I'll be honest. You can just go play nine if 143 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 6: you wanted to do. It's just so it just takes 144 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 6: so long. 145 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 3: And I love the game. 146 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: I love golf. I have a golf simulator. I haven't 147 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: used it forever been We now just basically use it 148 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: for our lots to say podcast, for like our background 149 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: of it setup. But I have friends that are members 150 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: of like golf simulator clubs. 151 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I have one of those two. He 152 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 3: keeps inviting me, and I'm like, and the way he 153 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 3: phrases it kind of irks me because he's like, you 154 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 3: want to play golf on Friday? You mean you're a 155 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 3: little simulator club that's not playing golf ball, that's getting balls. 156 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: I had a friend that was like, Hey, do you 157 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: want to come and play on the simulator at the club, 158 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I have a simulator. 159 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 3: I got my own club. 160 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, like thirty yards back there, like you can come 161 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: over here with you. 162 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 3: He's like, that's another thing too. Does he call it 163 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 3: like I'm a member a remember at a club? 164 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: He said, I'm a member of a simulator club if 165 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: you want to come and play, like if the weather's bad. 166 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: And I said, oh that's interesting, that's cool. What why 167 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: did you join? He goes, because there's food and stuff 168 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: and I said, oh that is cool. I said, well, 169 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: I have a simulator, so probably unless you just want 170 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: like hang out and go do it. But like if 171 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: it's just about playing on a simulator, like I have one, yeah, 172 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: it's probably better than that one. 173 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 3: Probably, But it's just funny and they like, like my 174 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 3: buddy is just like, yeah, man, I'm a member of 175 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 3: a club. You want to play on Friday? And like 176 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 3: it's a simulator club. It's just and I haven't gone yet. 177 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 3: I might really like it. Maybe the vibe. 178 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: That's a real thing. 179 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 3: It's a real thing. 180 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: Oh I thought they were saying it like as a joke. No, 181 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: there's like places could have like four or five simulators 182 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: maybe more in a room, man, like a bar in 183 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: a restaurant. God, yeah, that's what that And it's a club. 184 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 3: And you pay for a membership and you can play 185 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 3: set of tea time whenever you want. 186 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: I mean, for the right press. You did it at 187 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: my house. Guys, you start your Uh so, would you 188 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: rather win? What? What championship? Would you have? All the championships, 189 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: which one would you want? 190 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 3: I'll go Masters. I go Masters because that's mine, Like, 191 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 3: I want that, baby, I don't have to share that 192 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 3: with a team. Like you wear the green jacket. The 193 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 3: whole thing is pretty awesome if you win the Masters. 194 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: It's funny because I don't. I wouldn't have gone there 195 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: at first, just on the surface. But I think you're 196 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: right about that the team part, because if you're unless 197 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: you're the quarterback or a star player and you win, 198 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: you know, you win super Bowl. Okay, cool, you won, 199 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: but your team won and you're a former super Bowl champion. 200 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: But of the team, unless you're Mahomes, That's what I'm saying, Like, yeah, 201 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: so it's different. Yeah, I think it's I think you've 202 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: convinced me. It's the I think I would you do 203 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: Masters or like another time, maybe Masters because it's America 204 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: and it's the most prestigious and you get that that 205 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 1: green jacket and some of the other tournaments like do 206 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: fake jackets, like plaid jackets or whatever. But it's nothing's 207 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: like nothing's like the Master and you're a member there 208 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: and you can do your meal the next year and. 209 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 3: You get to play even when you're a hundred years old. 210 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: And you have your own driving range over in Augusta. 211 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: You what, Yeah, tell me past champions have their own 212 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: driving range, like their own lane that they can know 213 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: their own driving range. So there is by the way, 214 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: they can't be called the driving range on television. The 215 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: announcers have been told it's called like the something practice facility. 216 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: They're not called fans. You'll not hear the announcers call 217 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: them fans. They're called maybe spectators. Maybe spectators. There's a 218 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: word they have to use. 219 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 3: Why rule. 220 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: The Masters get to make all the rules because the 221 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: Masters charge nothing for television. The network gets up for free. 222 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: But in exchange they have to do everything that the 223 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 1: Master says, and the Masters make all the money off 224 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: merch and stuff. 225 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's telling me that they do the track like 226 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 6: everything that they do as far as food and all 227 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 6: that is green. 228 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 1: So somebody drops like a rapper, it's that's lens in. 229 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: That's not true. I mean, I've been there, so now 230 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: I've never. 231 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 6: Heard that, because then you can on TV like it 232 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 6: looks like it's as clean as possible, because even if 233 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 6: there is trash, it's green. 234 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: Do you know why it's plain because nobody freaking puts 235 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: trash on the ground. 236 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can't take your phone in there, is 237 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 3: that right? 238 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: No, you can't take your phone. If you do, if 239 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: it comes out of your pocket, you're out. 240 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 4: Whoa. 241 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you can put it and you can bag it. 242 00:09:55,520 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: When we went we just kept in our pockets, but 243 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: we didn't even think about pulling it out because if 244 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 1: you they see a phone, you're out of there. 245 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 3: And did they tell you that when you go in 246 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 3: or do you just know that or is there. 247 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: A sign up front? But I think it's mostly just known. 248 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: I won't even say understood. It's such that that's a 249 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: very it's a glaring rule no phones, and so it's 250 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 1: cool though the food is cheap. The food's very cheap, right, 251 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: The food is inexpensive. It's it's pretty good and it's inexpensive. 252 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: Everything is pretty inexpensive. But they make all their money 253 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: off the pro shop. It's it's printing money. Yes, so 254 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 1: but it's cool. 255 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 3: What did you get when you went? Did you stay 256 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 3: at a hole or did you walk around? How did 257 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 3: you watch it? 258 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: So if you get there when they first opened the gates, 259 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: you have your chairs, your master's chairs, and it's the 260 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: same chair. They don't. There's not even like a different 261 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: kinds of chairs. 262 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:49,719 Speaker 3: It's one kind of chair. 263 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: I believe, I believe. So you have price to buy. 264 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: I don't remember that. We didn't have one, but everybody 265 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: had them and they ran and they put them on greens. Now, 266 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: if you got a spot with your chair, you don't 267 00:10:58,760 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: have to stay in the chair, but no one could 268 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: have spot. That's your seat. 269 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 3: That's cool. 270 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: So when they open the gates, everybody goes. But it's 271 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: like you open a theme park, a bunch of kids running. 272 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: You open that, it's a bunch of like middle aged men. 273 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know people. 274 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: So you can do that. Then you can sit it 275 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: a green if you otherwise you're not really going to 276 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: be at a green unless you're like eight rows deep. 277 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: So we at first tried to walk like we just 278 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: wanted to see tiger. We wanted to see, but it's 279 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: so packed around them following that so hard to see 280 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: and it's really hard to watch golf in person at 281 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: a driving ring from the tea box because you can't 282 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 1: really see where they hit. They just hit and you 283 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: go okay. 284 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 3: Because everyone else is. 285 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: You can't see where they hit. You can't see the ball. Yeah, tiny, 286 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: Did you ever do the get in the hole? No, 287 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: you don't really do that at the Masters. I'm sure 288 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: that they might, but you don't. It's it's a percentage 289 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 1: of what it is in other places. 290 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 3: I've always said that if I went to like go 291 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 3: see Tiger, I do a Tiger after the hit. 292 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: You probably wouldn't. No, not there because everybody's scared to 293 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: get kicked out because they don't care. And also it's 294 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 1: like a fancy place. It's fancy, yeah, fancy. And so 295 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: we then sat at a hole after we walked around 296 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: a bit, just sat at a hole and let right 297 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: at a green part three and just watched them hit down. 298 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: We got an elevated spots. We won't ride on the green, 299 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: but elevated so you could see down on it. And 300 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: then yeah, we just sit there and gambled the whole time, 301 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: and it was cool. The difficult part is you don't 302 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: really know where everybody is as far as the scoring, 303 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: because you don't have your phones and they don't have 304 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: a bunch of electronic scoreboards around. You have to like 305 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: sign you have to like find the main couple of 306 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: scoreboards or they walk around with a group. They do 307 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:32,719 Speaker 1: have that on the group, but then you only know 308 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: two people. You only know the people the two people 309 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: that are in the group. So the difficult party about 310 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: that is knowing how did they know? 311 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 3: Like whenever you see like microphones on shirts, Oh really, 312 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 3: they tell them yeah. 313 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, people that are there, like you know, Bertie, they 314 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: just shouted with a megafi at eight. 315 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 3: I was thought, like you know, like Sunday, the last 316 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 3: two groups or whatever, and it's a close match and 317 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 3: they hear the group in front of them like a 318 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 3: big roar. 319 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: They're like, oh, correct, well that does have and that 320 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: for sure is a part of it. It's a momentum 321 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: killer too. I mean, it's all things, but yes, it's cool. 322 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 3: And then you're wondering, like what are they cheering for? 323 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 3: Like what is it? Two strokes? Is it one that 324 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 3: he hidden? Like what do they do? 325 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: I'll make it comparison that you guys will now understand. 326 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: It's like the Super Bowl you'll go once and mostly 327 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: be like that was cool. I'd rather watch it on 328 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: TV for now on really, but you want to go 329 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 1: once for sure because you want to see it. It's 330 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: the greenest grats I've ever seen that type thing, Like 331 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: it's awesome everywhere you've ever seen on television, you're seeing 332 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: to get it, you're seeing it for the first time 333 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: in person. But then you go and it's just kind 334 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 1: of hard to keep up with it because if you're 335 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: trapped trying to see many a bunch of golfers or 336 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: follow one other's just people, people people and no phones 337 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: and you're like my wife mad, she's trying to get 338 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: a hold of. 339 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be tough. 340 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: So you and my wife wouldn't like that, Like you 341 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: would go for a I would say you'd want to 342 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: go for a couple a year, Like for a couple 343 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: few days, it's cool, But I don't think unless you're 344 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: like extremely super fan, that you'd want to go back 345 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: the next year because you're like, oh, I got it, 346 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: unless it was like a big event for a reason 347 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: for one person, like he's trying to you know, Tiger Slam. Yeah, yeah, 348 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: but then you seven eight years to be like yeah, 349 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 1: it'd be cool. Let's go back, but you do it 350 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: and then once you're there, like, this is really cool, 351 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 1: but it's much better to watch on television. I could Yeah, 352 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: I could see that because just generally things are better 353 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 1: now on television. Sure, so you want to go once 354 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: to see it, but then you get to these games, 355 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: and I say this evening about Arkansas sports. My favorite 356 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: thing to do in the whole world is to go 357 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: to Arkansas games. Oh that's kind of fun, dude, Yeah 358 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: it is. It's awesome. I can go to every game, 359 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: but it's like angles, timeouts, can't get food, like there 360 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: are all these annoying things, and you lose, and if 361 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: you're an away game or you got travel home and 362 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: hating life, like television's just made it so much better. 363 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: But we'll try to go next. 364 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 3: Couple of years. 365 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: Masters Yeah, I mean I could probably pull some strings 366 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: and just go. 367 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 3: Play it, or just go what are you talking? Play? 368 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 3: Can we play? You know how they do like pitch 369 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 3: pitch drive, pitch Butt? 370 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: Could you play? 371 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 7: No? 372 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: Could I play seventy thirty? No? 373 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 3: Wow? 374 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: I think that definitely no outside shot. You're saying this 375 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: because they do like celeb stuff sometimes, but they'd have 376 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: to be like twenty no's in a row to get 377 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: to me. So we can call some people. That's not 378 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: a thing though, like call some people is not really 379 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: a thing. 380 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 3: Here, I have one last question about Masters and we 381 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 3: can move on. What's it like outside of the course, 382 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 3: because when you watch it on TV, you're. 383 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: Like, it's a small town that it's not it's like 384 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: a McDonald's cross the street crazy. It's not crappy. Actually, 385 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: because you watch on TV. 386 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 3: You're like, this is Willy Wonka Land, Like this is 387 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 3: it must be surrounded by like green jungle flowers and. 388 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: No offense to people in Augusta because they go it's 389 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: it's a fun it's but no, it's it's crappy area. 390 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: And when you're driving to it at first, you're like, 391 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: why are those fences covered in like green? Like the 392 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: oh wow? 393 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah, I would never think that just from 394 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 3: watching on TV. 395 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: Same yeah, Like there's like Hooters, right, I'm not kidding. 396 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 3: Hooters because John Day's all there. 397 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So yeah, we'll try to go at some point. 398 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: I have a buddy that went this year for the 399 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: first time. Yeah, he just got randomly invited by somebody 400 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: who kind of knew his wife back in the day 401 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: and they were like, it's me and two friends have 402 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: an extra ticket his he didn't even know the guy, 403 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: but his wife knew him like fifteen years ago, huh 404 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: and a tough one. And he was like, oh, man, 405 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: I may never get to go, and he went just 406 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: suck it up, not knowing. But that's very much the thing, 407 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: like you would do just jump out with a bunch 408 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: people you don't know just because you're easy to get 409 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: along with. And I would, yeah, I would, yeah, but 410 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: it depends like you went four days. Yeah, that's true, 411 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: you'd still probably go, though it's not about to figure 412 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: it out. I don't eve want to hang with people 413 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't want to hang with you 414 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: guys sometimes and I know you, yeah, And it's not 415 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: even I don't want to hang with you. I just 416 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: don't want to hang with anybody. But my personally is 417 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: very different than Eddie. Eddie can blend in and jump 418 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: in and be from best friends with everybody in five seconds, 419 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: and like that's like a you yes thing. 420 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 3: I used to love going to bars and just like 421 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 3: sit at the bar and hey, man, you you from town? 422 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 3: What are you visiting and then there we go do 423 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 3: you hang out with that person for the rest of 424 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 3: the night. 425 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 6: But that can really backfire, really yeah. Sometimes and then 426 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 6: you start talking to the wrong person. 427 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 3: You're like, oh my gosh, how do I get out 428 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 3: of here? 429 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 6: Yes, so that can back for it because I'm with you, 430 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 6: I'm all about having a good time talking to people. 431 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 6: And then there's those times where you're like, oh, man, 432 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 6: I missed this one up, dude. 433 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 3: There was a time when I came to Nashville just 434 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 3: to come visit randomly, and I sat at a bar 435 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 3: at a Hooters, not kidding, and started talking to a guy. 436 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 3: We talked for like, I don't know, two hours. We 437 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 3: went to a bar afterwards, and then he had to 438 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 3: leave go home. Never saw him again. When we moved 439 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 3: to Nashville, I was at one of my kids baseball 440 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 3: team games and I see him there. I'm like wait 441 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 3: a second, and I asked him, like, dude, did we 442 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 3: meet it at Hooters at this play? He's like, yeah, 443 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 3: I remember you. 444 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: Like, this is crazy, that's pretty weird. That's cool, that's wild. 445 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:58,959 Speaker 1: And that guy Eric Church. Okay, so we're gonna come 446 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: back with Rick Barnes test basketball coach. In just a second. 447 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: Let's we're gonna do a UFC parlay. 448 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 3: All right, come on, let's do it. We've never done one. 449 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll let you have it. 450 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 3: Okay. So, oh dude, I can't I do UFC every 451 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 3: week now. 452 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: It's the only thing I know, Like, I know a 453 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: couple of the fighters, like I would pick Chandler. I 454 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: don't know. If you're gonna pick up I'll roll you 455 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: through this, okay. So UFC three fourteen is on Saturday, 456 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: main event. Alexander Volkanovski, you got it? Versus Diego Lopez, 457 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:33,239 Speaker 1: you got it? 458 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 3: Brazilian? 459 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: Who do you like? 460 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 3: There? I like Diego. 461 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: He's the underdog. 462 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 3: Yeah. I love that. And he's not an underdog by 463 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 3: much one ten barely, right, But I love this guy. 464 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 3: He's won the last five fights. I think he's won 465 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 3: five in a row. This dude's tough. Alexander's the champ. 466 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 3: Usually when the champ is up there, he's like a 467 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 3: you know what, I'm the champ already. I'm gonna just 468 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 3: relax a little bit, and here comes Diego. So I'm 469 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 3: picking Digg on this just to win money line lightweight. 470 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: About our boy Michael Chandler versus Patty Pimblet Patty the Batty. 471 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 3: Paddy the Batty. Yeah, here's here's the problem with this. 472 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 3: I don't know who can win this. Like, it's so 473 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 3: hard to decide between these two. Patty Patty the Batty. Dude, 474 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,959 Speaker 3: he's crazy, he's nuts, he's nuts. Michael Chandler is good, 475 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 3: but he hasn't won the last couple of fights that 476 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 3: he's fought. So I'm gonna go instead of picking the fighter, 477 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with over one and a half rounds, 478 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 3: which means it's three round fight, which means if it 479 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 3: goes over two thirty in the second round, we win. 480 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: So you're going over one and a half round and 481 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: that's a bet. That's the bet, okay, And which one 482 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: do you want to bet on? The featherway to lightweight 483 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 1: because you have featherweight? Uh yeh. Rodriguez versus Patricio Pittbull 484 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: that's I had. Yeah, I mean you've got to go. 485 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: I think it's a nickname. I don't think that's his 486 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: family name or anything. Oh really no, because there's no 487 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 1: like Patricio Pitbull Rodriguez. It's just Patricio pit Bull. 488 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. But in UFC. You know you can do that 489 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 3: kind of stuff. 490 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: So you're going Patrico Pitbule to win. 491 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 3: Well, I don't, I don't know. Is Nikita Krylof on 492 00:19:58,160 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 3: that one? 493 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can pick up No, you picked the out 494 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: below that light light heavyweight bout, Nikita Krylov versus Domini 495 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: krez Boom. 496 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 3: Let's pick him Nikita to win. 497 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: Okay, So you're going Diego Lopez in the main event 498 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: and the lightweight bout of Chandler and Patty de Batty. 499 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: You're going over two and a half, one and a half, 500 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: Oh good, over one and a half in the rounds, 501 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: and the light heavyweight bout you're going Nikita. 502 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 3: That's it. 503 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: Okay. 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Coach Barnes has been at Tennessee for a 521 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: decade now, was at Texas for a while before that. 522 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: They lost to Houston in the Elite eight this year, 523 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: and seems like Coach Barnes and the bass programs in 524 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: the hunt every year now. They were awesome this year. 525 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: A big thanks to coach for coming on. And I 526 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: do at the end say hey, what's up? Why be 527 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: kept saying no to us coming to here? He is 528 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: coach Rick Barnes, Hey, Coach, I was doing a little 529 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 1: little intel Anya. I don't want to put my person out, 530 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: but I have a very close friend that has an 531 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: sec official, and I said, I want to read you 532 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: a quote from him. I said, and this is a 533 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: very close friend of mine who will come to the 534 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 1: house here sometimes in Nashville. And it doesn't live here though. 535 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,239 Speaker 1: I said, uh, what's up with Rick Barnes? What kind 536 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: of guys he because he'll tell me because coach, he's like, 537 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: I ain't good. He said, a tremendous man on and 538 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: off the court. And I said, I'm about to talk 539 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: with him, and he Saidrick and I have a great relationship. 540 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: And so that's from somebody very close. So now that 541 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: I know you're a tremendous man, I'm so excited to 542 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: talk to you. 543 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 4: Well, I appreciate it. Good to be with you. How 544 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 4: you doing. You're doing okay? 545 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: You know, I'm okay. Yeah, I feel like, uh, you know, 546 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: I'm a big SEC guy. So I was happy to 547 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: see Florida win. I wonder with you, do you still 548 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: watch once you guys fall out of the tournament. 549 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 4: It's hard, you know, Uh, sporadic, you know, sporadically. 550 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 7: I'll probably watched obviously the last game, more of it, 551 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 7: but uh, when there's semi finals started, Uh, I know, 552 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 7: I didn't watch a lot of that because it does 553 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 7: it takes while. You know, I was talking with Calvin 554 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 7: Sampson yesterday and just it takes time to get that 555 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 7: sting out. 556 00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 4: You know, because you want to win. 557 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 7: You want to be the last team in a tough 558 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 7: part about that tournament is there's only going to be 559 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 7: one team that's going to go home happy and everybody 560 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 7: else is it comes to a sudden, screeching halt. And 561 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 7: but it's hard and when you sometimes you just want 562 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 7: to get away from it. But you know, we've had 563 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 7: to jump right back into the recruiting aspect of what 564 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 7: we do, and so that keeps you from setting around 565 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 7: mulling over it too long. 566 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels so intense right now, even because right 567 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 1: you're right, it's over. We had a Nash champion. But again, 568 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: I follow recruiting like crazy, and it's like eighty four 569 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: rumors portal and so now it's yeah, you're splashing back in. 570 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: So do you think it's going to be this way forever? 571 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: Or will there finally be some sort of regulations that 572 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: come in the next couple of years. 573 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 4: I don't think it will be like this forever. I don't. 574 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 7: I'm sure they're going to have to regulate some things. 575 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 7: What that's going to be, I'm not sure anybody really 576 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 7: knows where it's going to go. But in my close 577 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 7: you know, fifty years in the business, it's never stayed. 578 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 7: It's always changed some way somehow. Whatever problems that we 579 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 7: run into, they find a way to work through it. 580 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 7: That one we have right now, we shouldn't have ever 581 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 7: gotten here if we'd have done the right thing in 582 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 7: terms of taking care of players years ago and seeing 583 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 7: them is not just you know, student athletes, but you 584 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 7: know people that were helping generate funds, and we wouldn't 585 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 7: be where we are today but we are. And how 586 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 7: it's going to get solved, I'm not sure anyone really 587 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 7: knows right now. 588 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 1: The bizarre thing, and this would be the last question 589 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: about that. The bizarre thing is that the portal opens 590 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: up while the games are still being played. That even 591 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: just adjusting the calendar would seem common sense, Like I 592 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: feel like there should just be like one or two 593 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: dates period that doesn't affect football or basketball. Isn't it 594 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: weird that players can start to move while the season 595 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: is still going. 596 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, but what I think the reason they moved it 597 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 7: to where they did? You think about it once the 598 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 7: NCAA tournament starts. So you imagine almost every team has 599 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 7: a conference tournament. 600 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 4: Some of them end up maybe a week or two 601 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 4: a week maybe before we say. 602 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 7: Start our tournament. What they're saying is that those teams 603 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 7: are wanting to get started. They don't want to wait 604 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 7: around for a month. You know, they don't want to say, hey, 605 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 7: why do we have to wait for a month, and 606 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 7: are we going to make rules just to take care 607 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 7: of after one weekend thirty two teams or then sixteen teams, 608 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 7: then you know, eight teams and four. 609 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 4: Teams, and so you know, people want to get going 610 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 4: with it. 611 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 7: But the sad part about our business, the portal is 612 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 7: probably opened long before the date because you start getting calls, 613 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 7: which is not right really in the season, I mean, 614 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 7: people are still playing games and you might get a 615 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 7: call from somebody that's still playing and they say, would 616 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 7: you be interested if so and so? And I don't 617 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 7: even think at times the players even though this is 618 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 7: going on, But it's just we're just not from there. 619 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 7: I don't think there will ever be a great date 620 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 7: when to open the portal, when to close it, based 621 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 7: on what everybody needs are But again the reason they 622 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 7: moved it up was those teams that aren't playing there saying, hey, 623 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 7: we need to recruit, we got to get gone. We 624 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 7: want we want to be playing next year in the tournament. 625 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 7: So why should we be penalized waiting on NCA tournament 626 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 7: to get over with. So there's a lot of different 627 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 7: thoughts that go into it. And now we'll say this 628 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,239 Speaker 7: to you, Iobby, there's enough players out there for all 629 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 7: of us. We just got to find the right ones. 630 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 7: And but right now is think about this. When we 631 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 7: came back from the UH, I think the secre first 632 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 7: round we had, We've already had three visits right in 633 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 7: the middle of the tournament, so it is different. 634 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 4: We got back here after the lead and we had 635 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 4: we had a. 636 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 7: Personal campus, but twenty four hours later getting ready to 637 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 7: get before we even left for the UH, you know, 638 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 7: the next round. 639 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 4: But it's it's crazy the way that works. But it 640 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 4: is what it is, and you just have to adapt 641 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 4: to it. 642 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: I was living in Austin almost the whole time that 643 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: you were there and then moved to Tennessee. Basically when 644 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: you moved to Tennessee, some would say you chase me. 645 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: That's fine, that's fine, coach, chase me if you want that. 646 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: So it's all good, But what's the real ut? 647 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 7: Well, you know what, when I first got here, I 648 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 7: don't think I bet you for two or three years 649 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 7: when I would go out and meet and speak, everybody says, 650 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 7: welcome to the real ut. And obviously their line was, hey, 651 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 7: you know what the line was or would not be 652 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 7: at Texas if it wasn't for Tennessee. And uh so 653 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 7: they I got to go to the University of Tennessee. 654 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: Whenever you leave a school that's color because you're in 655 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,479 Speaker 1: two distinct you went from one very distinct. I mean 656 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: even if it clems in distinct colors of the version 657 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: of the color. Do you all your burn orange stuff? 658 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: Does it go away like it's there's that fire cell 659 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: and then it's all now that the Tennessee orange. 660 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah once I you know, the colors changed. 661 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 7: People that you know that are there, that you were 662 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 7: close to you, I've always said, hey, come get what 663 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 7: you want. 664 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 4: It's all here. Getting ready to get a new wardrobe. 665 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: Well ties and everything. Yeah, you gotta think it's not 666 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: even just like the stuff with the logos on it, 667 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: like ties, hats, everything you happened, like all things must go. 668 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: So you guys at Tennessee have been it's an awesome experience, 669 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: Like you guys have a great game day atmosphere. Now 670 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,360 Speaker 1: I've been there and I've lost. I'm an Arkansas guy, 671 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: and you guys pounded us as terrible as miserable experience. 672 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: But I respected how passionate and how loud those fans were. 673 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: Do you feel when you came in that you have 674 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: amplified the basketball culture there, you and your staff? I 675 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: feel that way as outside looking in And where do 676 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: you guys, what do you kind of rank you guys 677 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: sec wise as far as like arenas well? 678 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 7: You know, I will say this on that every People 679 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 7: tell me all the time just how hard it was 680 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 7: to play in Stokely Athletic Center back when before they 681 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 7: moved into the Foods which is now the food City Center. 682 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 4: They our fan base here is incredible. 683 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 7: I mean you think about it, We're the only programs 684 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 7: in the country that sell out, you know, women's softball, baseball, football, 685 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 7: in basketball, and uh, I can tell you this. We've 686 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 7: had people tell us that they think this is as 687 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 7: hard a place play as there anywhere in the country. 688 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 7: I could I could say the same thing about where 689 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 7: what you're talking about you're an Arkansas fan. Uh, that's 690 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 7: that Walton Arena is a tough place to play when 691 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 7: that thing's cooking. Now it is that ceilings blow that 692 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 7: that uh that is we sit around a lot and 693 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 7: we talk about Justin Ganney and I and people have 694 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 7: asked me the question all the time in my lifetime 695 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 7: of the hardest arenas, the loudest arenas to play in. 696 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 7: And I've always said, the loudest arena ever in uh 697 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 7: my coaching career was the old Gallay, the Gallagher IB 698 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 7: Arena before they raised the roof on it, that thing 699 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 7: when we had some incredible games in there, when Coach 700 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 7: Sutton was there, and it was so definitely you couldn't 701 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 7: even hear and if a person with three inches from 702 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 7: your face. Sometimes the old Rentals College Sam at NC 703 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 7: State Colefield House. Obviously, Kansas still has what they have going, 704 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 7: but there are some places that you that really stood 705 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 7: out like that. But when I'm coaching a game, I'm 706 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 7: kind of oblivious to all that, to be quite honest. 707 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 7: But I have had a lot of people tell me 708 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 7: how hard it is to come in here and play. 709 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Tennessee sucks to play because you guys are so loud. 710 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: I'm biased Arkansas Auburn. It's small, but that's it to 711 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: Auburn gets loud and because it's so small and right 712 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: on top of you. So there's a dynamic there to 713 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: where the whole like nine thousand people, but that doesn't 714 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: allow for freaking nine thousand people. 715 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 4: Right, yeah it is. I mean you know that, does 716 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 4: you know? 717 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 7: I think about you know, Old miss can get going, 718 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 7: you know, I think now you know, obviously a lot 719 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 7: of people have cut their arenas down. You know, you 720 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 7: you go out in Texas, now think about it. Baylor 721 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 7: wins the National Championship, goes from a ten thousand seed 722 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 7: arena to like of what a seven thousand and eight 723 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 7: thousand seed arena. Texas goes from a seventeen thousand seed 724 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 7: arena to a ten thousand seed arena. But there's still 725 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 7: something to be said about arena that you know, twenty one, six, seven, eight, 726 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 7: and especially when you fill it up. But there's a 727 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 7: lot of them that can loud in some ways, obviously, 728 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 7: but they all have their own really unique personalities. 729 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: What about stand in that box. I don't feel like 730 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: they give enough room, and you know, you come out 731 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: of the box, give a little warning. You feel like 732 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: that box should be extended a little better way. 733 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 7: Well, what I think they ought to do, they ought 734 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 7: to move the officials where I have the worst seat 735 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 7: in the house, where I sit on the bench the 736 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 7: officials but is right in my face the entire game. 737 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 7: His job is just staying at the foul line, and 738 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 7: my seat lines up with the foul line, and so 739 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 7: that makes me have to get up and move. But 740 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 7: sometimes I will literally he said, I'll push them to 741 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,959 Speaker 7: the side a little bit. But that's where they're supposed 742 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 7: to be. But you know, back in the day, you know, 743 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 7: you know, you could walk down as far as I 744 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 7: remember when you could walk to half court. But uh, 745 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 7: you know again, it just goes back to where they 746 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 7: want to try to feel like they got control of 747 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 7: the game and trying to keep people under control. 748 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: When did they hit you though with the tech? Because 749 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: I'm assuming they'll say, coach, do they give you like 750 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: a quiet warning? First? Allowed warning? Second? Like, at what 751 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: level do they go? That's too much? We've told you 752 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: twice three times already. 753 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 4: It depends on each guy. 754 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 7: You know, back earlier, I'll never forget one night when 755 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 7: I was coaching the province in the Big East, and 756 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 7: you know, coaches and referees, you know, we all I 757 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 7: thought we had pretty good relationships. 758 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 4: We knew each other. 759 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 7: But Timmy Higgins one night, who I loved to death 760 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 7: and did a lot of games, and games just started 761 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 7: and you know, we weren't playing well, and I'm getting 762 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 7: after him a little bit. And next thing I know, 763 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 7: he comes by me and I said, I just showed 764 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 7: out Timmy and he turn around. 765 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 4: He teed me up. I looked around. 766 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 7: I said what and he looked down and I promise 767 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 7: you my foot was a half an inch out of 768 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 7: the box. He looked at me, he looked at he said, 769 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,959 Speaker 7: you're out of the box. And then he turned back 770 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 7: and I said, are you kidding me? He said, Coach, 771 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 7: I had a bad day today. 772 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 4: I don't want to hear it, you know, and that 773 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 4: you know thing. But you know, I go back. 774 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 7: I think there's guys that referee the game, and there's 775 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 7: guys that managed the game too. And you asked me 776 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 7: what I'd rather have a guy at man the game 777 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 7: or referee is a game, I'd probably I just want 778 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 7: referees to call the rules of the game, but they 779 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 7: need to manage it too, and I think older guys 780 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 7: probably are a little bit better at that. 781 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 4: Uh, as they get experienced. 782 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: Do you have a person on your staff that, whenever 783 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: you have been triggered so much, they go, all right, 784 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: coach stop that you actually will listen to. 785 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 4: Not really uh, you know, not really. I mean if 786 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 4: when I get if if I do get going, I 787 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 4: I want to get going. 788 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 7: You know. 789 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 4: It's really funny. 790 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,479 Speaker 7: I think I don't remember the last time I had 791 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 7: tactical I think I think it was here when John 792 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 7: was at Kentucky and he got a technical foul and 793 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 7: I looked at him and I was laughing because he 794 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 7: didn't I didn't think he had done anything. And he 795 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 7: turned around teed me up because because I didn't think, 796 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 7: I'm like, what did he do? And they teat us 797 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 7: both up, And that may be that's one of the 798 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 7: last ones I think I remember that I got. But uh, 799 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 7: you know, officials, you know, I think there's been a 800 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 7: lot that has gone into helping the officials to learn 801 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 7: how to communicate. That's the key between games with coaches 802 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 7: and referees and the communication level and obviously some coaches 803 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 7: are going to get along better with others and vice versa. 804 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 7: But it's a communication factor that has been You know 805 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 7: Mike Keys, who is our supervisor of official, he has 806 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 7: done just an incredible job. 807 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 4: Incredible and I will tell you this, I really do 808 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:26,720 Speaker 4: respect those officials. 809 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 7: I was on the rules committee for five years and 810 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 7: knowing and learning how hard they work at it, have 811 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 7: to work at it, and it's a really difficult game 812 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 7: to officiate. That gave me a whole different perspective. But 813 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 7: it also helped me because I can I know where 814 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 7: they're supposed to be, they're not there. I can kind 815 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 7: of get at it a little bit. But they work 816 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 7: at it and they want to get it right. That's 817 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 7: all I'm going to tell you. They do want to 818 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 7: get it right. It's important to them. And back in 819 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 7: the day everybody used to feel like it was a 820 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 7: part time job. For those guys, it really hit and 821 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 7: those guys, you know that money, what if they might 822 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 7: have another job, and it steel is important to them 823 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 7: to help take care of their families. And I think 824 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 7: you got to respect them because it's really it's a 825 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 7: tough game to officiate. 826 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: There's three final questions for you, Coach, Eddie. 827 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 3: Hey, Coach. My first job out of college, I was 828 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 3: a news cameraman for News A and Austin. You were 829 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 3: head coach at Texas and I never did sports really, 830 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 3: but they sent me out to one of your press 831 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 3: conferences because the photographer wasn't available, so I'd go up 832 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 3: there and it's the first time I'd ever seen you 833 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 3: in person, and they had you guys had planned a 834 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 3: fart machine under one of the reporter seats, so every 835 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,399 Speaker 3: time that reporter started to ask a question, you guys 836 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 3: hit the button and of fart noise would come out 837 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,399 Speaker 3: and he just couldn't get his question out. I thought 838 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 3: that was the funniest thing in the world. I became 839 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 3: a huge fan of yours after that moment. After that, 840 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 3: do you still do that kind of stuff with the media? 841 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 3: I thought that was so great. 842 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 4: Hey, if you want me to get up, I'll walk 843 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 4: in my locker and I'll get that machine. 844 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: You remember that, Coach. 845 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 7: Oh, yeah, I'm sure I've done worse than that, But 846 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 7: you know, sometimes you just want to have fun doing 847 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 7: what you're doing. And I'm not sure who it was, 848 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 7: but I'm sure it was good reason why we put 849 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 7: it underneath their chair. 850 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: That's funny. Okay, final two questions. I'll talk about Kevin 851 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: Durant for a second. How cold was he as a 852 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: just a freshman at Texas? 853 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 4: Man? 854 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 7: Oh man, I could tell you, I could tell you 855 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 7: stories all day about him. I remember, you know, I 856 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 7: tell everyone, when you coach a guy like Kevin Durant. 857 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 4: He's the hardest worker. 858 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 7: He's as harder worker, maybe the hardest worker that we've 859 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 7: ever coached. He's just an incredible teammate, very unselfish. All 860 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 7: he cared about was winning. But you know, he just 861 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 7: loves being in the gym, and he still does even today. 862 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 7: I mean, I mean he works as hard as now 863 00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 7: or harder. I mean, he just loves the game of basketball. 864 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 7: And so when you coach a guy like Kevin, and 865 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,280 Speaker 7: you know, he came in and uh, we had lost 866 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 7: three guys early to the NBA Draft, and uh Daniel Gibson, PJ. 867 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 7: Tucker and LaMarcus Aldridge, and we were down to three 868 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,760 Speaker 7: players in our program, and we signed best recruiting class 869 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 7: in the country. We had, you know, Kevin and DJ Augustine, 870 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 7: Damien James, and we signed seven freshmen and four of 871 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 7: them started, but Franfretschell had called me in September. 872 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 4: He was doing getting ready for the season. He says, 873 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 4: what do you think about your team? 874 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 7: I said, well, we're going to start four freshmen and 875 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 7: a sophomore and or junior, and I don't know how 876 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 7: good our team is, but I've got the best player 877 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 7: in the country. He said, you mean you got the 878 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 7: best freshman. I said, no, I got the best player 879 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 7: in the country. I said, he is the very best 880 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,240 Speaker 7: player in the country. And he became the first freshman 881 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 7: to win the national uh all, you know, I think 882 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 7: seven National Player. 883 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 4: Of the Year awards. 884 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 7: But he had an incredible game where he kind of 885 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 7: broke out. We were playing against coach at Texas Tech 886 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 7: and is one of those nights where I think he 887 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 7: had thirty some points, you know, maybe twenty rebounds and 888 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 7: almost a triple double. And game after that, we came 889 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 7: back a couple of weeks later and Kevin had We 890 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 7: went out there and he got rolling. Man, he was cooking. 891 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 7: He was rolling and playing at just an incredible level. 892 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 7: And Texas Tech comes back and right before the game, 893 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 7: you know, five minutes before the game, you know you're 894 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 7: supposed to put your starting line up in and we 895 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 7: had prepared for Texas tack to come in, and next 896 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 7: thing I know, they come in. It's a tax changer lineup. 897 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 7: They're starting to walk on and I'm like, what in 898 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 7: the world I'm looking there, and I started thinking, you 899 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 7: know what they're doing. Another good player in the league, 900 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 7: Martin Zeno, was a really good one on one player, 901 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 7: and I said, by the way they're starting, Kevin is 902 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 7: going to have to match up with him. And so 903 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,839 Speaker 7: Coach Knight's going to go at Kevin with Zeno, He's 904 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 7: gonna make kitting. And so I told Kevin, I said, look, 905 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 7: whatever you do, you don't even leave the lane. You 906 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 7: just stand in front of the basket. And we jumped 907 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,399 Speaker 7: on those guys and we were up probably like something 908 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 7: like thirty to five, and all at once, I hear 909 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 7: somebody stomping her foot and I look around and coach 910 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 7: nice looking down there, and he looks at me and 911 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 7: he calls me a name and starts laughing at me. 912 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 7: And we're up at halftime by thirty points. The second half, 913 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 7: it took thirty seconds, thirty minutes to get the entire 914 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 7: at half over. He went zoned and I'd never seen 915 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 7: him go zon and after the game he told me 916 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 7: it's him. At halftime, he said, if anybody fouls, we're 917 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 7: going to get into two three zone. If anybody fouls, 918 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 7: you're going to walk back to Luvevick. 919 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 4: I want to be out of here. 920 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 7: And that game was that half was over in thirty minutes, 921 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 7: but Kevin put on and then I can just remember 922 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 7: some of the things he did. One of my favorite 923 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 7: stories is we go to Kansas and place as you 924 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 7: know is gone and we start that game and Kevin Durant, 925 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,359 Speaker 7: I'm telling you it's one of the greatest twenty minutes. 926 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,720 Speaker 4: In entire college basketball history. 927 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 7: And Danny Manny told me later he was on the 928 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 7: bench with and I mean, we were running a play 929 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 7: that we couldn't guard. When Carmelo Anthony beat us in 930 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 7: the final foursant simple isolation, but it's up to. 931 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,240 Speaker 4: Kd just to pick it apart. 932 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 7: And every gallon was court had scored a point because 933 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 7: he either made the pass or did something. And Danny, 934 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 7: they couldn't stop him. I mean, he was unstoppable. And 935 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 7: Danny told me that Bill looked at him and said, 936 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 7: what do you think? And Danny said, I looked at 937 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 7: Bill and said, Bill, that's a bad mother. But he 938 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,399 Speaker 7: gave it to him any and every way you could. 939 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's still awesome. He's still awesome even though he's 940 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 1: quote old. Okay, last last question here. Coaching. This is 941 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 1: going to be a little uncomfortable. We've been all around 942 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 1: the world, but we've worked out with coach Pearl and Auburn, 943 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 1: with the Pacers, Oregon, Florida State, South Carolina, Arizona, you 944 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: name it. We've been the only program to tell us no, 945 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: was Tennessee basketball. The only program and that that's the 946 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: react coach. 947 00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:58,320 Speaker 5: I don't know what. 948 00:40:58,480 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 4: I'm not sure what you're talking about. 949 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: So we travel around and we go and we do 950 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 1: like we do a show. We focus on the team, 951 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: and mostly it was for like to help with like 952 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 1: an il and like show and highlight the players. And 953 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: we've been to like thirteen different D one schools we 954 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: worked at with Jeni, and everybody has said yes. The 955 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 1: only time we kept getting to know was from the 956 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: University of Tennessee. And I was already mad because you 957 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: guys have been pounding this. I don't like that, but 958 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 1: now I was rooting for you a little less coach 959 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: because we kept getting the rejection. So I just wanted 960 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: you to know that it's hurt me to be rejected 961 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: over and over again by Tennessee. 962 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 4: Well, I'll be honest with you. 963 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 7: There's a lot of girls in hickreyhatt in North Carolina 964 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 7: when I was growing up that felt it that way 965 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 7: about me. 966 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 4: But I didn't know they liked me. M you know, 967 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 4: I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know that 968 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 4: you'd ever asked to come on campus. 969 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,359 Speaker 7: Because I can tell you this our campus, that our 970 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,839 Speaker 7: practices are open to Indy and everybody wants to come. 971 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,399 Speaker 1: But we practiced like we worked. We would like work 972 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 1: out with a team. So so I'm just letting you know. 973 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 4: Like we you you want you want to practice with 974 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 4: my team? 975 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, we want to like do like just we just 976 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 1: do a little work out. We did a little ryn 977 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 1: little shoot. 978 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 7: Well you come up, yeah, you come up here this 979 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 7: spring and you give me fifteen minutes. I promise you 980 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 7: I will love I will do it, and we will 981 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 7: do whatever you want to do it. I just want 982 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 7: to make in fifteen minutes, I'm going to bring you 983 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 7: to your knees and you're gonna be well. 984 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 1: Now I don't want to do it. 985 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 7: Now you want to work out, I mean give me 986 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 7: fifty you know what. I don't even think it will 987 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 7: take me fifteen minutes, you know I don't. 988 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, well listen, I'll say this. I'll just be 989 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 1: as unbiased as possibly can. You guys were the uh 990 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 1: one of the most tenacious teams I've ever seen. It 991 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 1: was really really cool to watch you guys succeed, not 992 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: playing us, but just to watch. And that's the word 993 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 1: I would use when describing you guys all season. Just 994 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: tenacious as crap. So congratulations on a great season. 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His goal 1031 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 1: is to create the most detailed NFL draft guid available 1032 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 1: and it is. Again I'm an athletic guy, I love it. 1033 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 1: I subscribe. The Beast includes more than four hundred player 1034 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:41,760 Speaker 1: profile rankings twenty seven hundred prospects. He's awesome, his works awesome. 1035 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 1: You can follow him on Twitter as well at dp Brugler. 1036 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 1: Here he is Dane Brugler. I'm with Dan Brugler now, 1037 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 1: who puts out The Beast, which is the most comprehensive 1038 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 1: draft guide I think that I've ever seen. Hey, I 1039 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 1: have a question for you, Dan, since it seems like 1040 00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 1: things very much are moving as far as everybody's the 1041 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 1: pro days, we have the combine, they're now having to 1042 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 1: come up with stories like should or does he tap 1043 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 1: the ball too much? Like it's that time of the 1044 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 1: draft now where we need new blood because we don't 1045 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 1: know where everybody's going, but we kind of know how 1046 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 1: good everybody is. So with that being said, I was 1047 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,320 Speaker 1: looking at some odds this morning and they had Travis. 1048 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 1: They had they had one hundred, number two overall. Where 1049 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 1: where is he with you? Because I'm assuming cam Ward's 1050 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: number one on your list. 1051 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, if we're just projecting how the draft's going to 1052 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 5: play out, cam Ward he's going to be the number 1053 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 5: one overall pick, And I think that was pretty clear 1054 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 5: at the combine. It was more of a question will 1055 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 5: it Titans stick and pick or will we see a 1056 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 5: team like the Giants or another team try to make 1057 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 5: a play for that number one pick to get cam Ward. 1058 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,360 Speaker 5: But it sure seems like the Titans feel good about 1059 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,719 Speaker 5: taking the quarterback out one and perfectly understandable. And then 1060 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 5: at two, I think when you look at the Browns, 1061 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 5: they're in a position to take the best non quarterback 1062 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 5: in this draft, and in my opinion, that's Travis Hunter. 1063 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 5: As unique a player as we've seen. But he's more 1064 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 5: than just just the you know, it's more than the 1065 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 5: unique factor with with Travis Hunter, because he is a 1066 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:10,120 Speaker 5: dynamic athlete. The ball instincts are tremendous. It's more of 1067 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,879 Speaker 5: a question, Okay, how are you going to maximize his talent? 1068 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 5: Is he going to be a full time corner? And 1069 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,400 Speaker 5: we're going to mix in some plays on offense. I 1070 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 5: think if the Browns take him at number two, they're 1071 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 5: going they want to help their offense. You know, this 1072 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 5: was an offense that ranked thirty second in the league 1073 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,439 Speaker 5: last year in offensive scoring, thirty second in the league 1074 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,839 Speaker 5: in third down conversions. They need a spark. And if 1075 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 5: they're not going to draft a quarterback at two, you 1076 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 5: want a guy like Travis Hunter who is so dynamic 1077 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 5: and get open, he can create after the catch, and 1078 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 5: so maybe not the same body type as ideally you want, 1079 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 5: being six foot one hundred and eighty five pounds, but 1080 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,160 Speaker 5: he is. He plays so much bigger than he looks, 1081 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 5: and good luck trying to cover him. It's more of 1082 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 5: a question, Okay, how are we going to use him 1083 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 5: on defense as well? And so when you draft a 1084 00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 5: player like this, you have to have a plan in place. 1085 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Travis Hunter then for a second, a 1086 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 1: little more in depth. I watched a lot of his 1087 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 1: pro day I watched a lot of his games too, 1088 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,399 Speaker 1: but he was running a lot of routes I'd never 1089 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 1: seen before as actual routes, Like it looked like the 1090 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 1: purpose of that was to just show how quick he is. Like, well, 1091 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 1: you saw it too, What do you think is happening there? 1092 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, we call those TikTok routes where it's just kind 1093 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,520 Speaker 5: of you know, you're going out there moving around. It 1094 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 5: wasn't full speed, It wasn't necessarily the full route tree. 1095 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 5: It was more just, hey, I'm moving around showing you 1096 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 5: that I'm healthy. You know, because we haven't seen he 1097 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,839 Speaker 5: didn't do anything at the combine. You know, we don't 1098 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 5: have a forty year dash from Travis Hunter. And I 1099 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 5: understand why. I mean, he's, like I said, the best 1100 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 5: player in the draft. We don't need to see him 1101 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 5: go out there and do a vertical and a three 1102 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 5: cone and all of this. You know, it's just good 1103 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,279 Speaker 5: to see him go out there and move around a 1104 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,400 Speaker 5: little bit. Everything that you love about Travis Hunter he 1105 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 5: put on the film. And so this isn't the same 1106 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,320 Speaker 5: thing as like a second round receiver, where maybe you 1107 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 5: have a question of about the speed, or maybe you 1108 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,480 Speaker 5: have a question about how he moves and you want 1109 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 5: to see it in person, there's no wondering what Travis Hunter. 1110 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,800 Speaker 5: He is, in my opinion, the best player in the draft. 1111 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,880 Speaker 5: And even though the Pro day was a little bit JV, 1112 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 5: you know, it didn't really it's not going to sway 1113 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 5: you one way or the other. It's because he's already 1114 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,759 Speaker 5: kind of locked into being a top three pick. 1115 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 1: When you mentioned the Browns and they're gonna go non quarterback, 1116 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:24,880 Speaker 1: I mean they have can you pick it? I mean 1117 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,440 Speaker 1: is that you know, maybe they do a cousin's situation, 1118 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,400 Speaker 1: but then that's just just projecting if it's cousins or whomever. Like, 1119 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,799 Speaker 1: what do you feel the reason is that they're they're 1120 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 1: going full non quarterback. 1121 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 5: I think you have to you have to take the 1122 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 5: players that are there. And this isn't like last year 1123 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 5: where we had three quarterbacks go one, two, three, and 1124 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 5: all three were deserving. If Drake may were in this 1125 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 5: draft class, he goes number one overall and the Browns 1126 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,279 Speaker 5: would take cam Ward at number two. But you have 1127 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 5: to it just it's just how things play out. And 1128 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,720 Speaker 5: the Browns have the number two pick in this draft 1129 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 5: and they're just in my opinion, there's one quarterback at 1130 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 5: the top and then there's a gap, and I think 1131 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 5: that's how most teams see this, and so it's a 1132 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 5: question of not are we not just are we reaching 1133 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 5: on a quarterback, but that also means we're passing on 1134 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 5: a guy that could be a cornerstone for our roster, 1135 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,920 Speaker 5: whether that's Abdual Carter from Penn State or Hunter like 1136 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,279 Speaker 5: we talked about. So you know, and I think the 1137 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 5: Browns they're sitting at thirty three, they have the first 1138 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,360 Speaker 5: pick in the second round. They've done a lot of 1139 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 5: work on Jackson Dart from Ole, Miss, Tyler Shuck from Louisville, 1140 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 5: Millroe from Alabama. So this is a quarterback class that 1141 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 5: I would argue Shador Sanders is closer to that group 1142 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,920 Speaker 5: than he is to cam Ward. And so that's why 1143 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 5: you take the better player at number two overall, and 1144 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 5: then at number thirty three, you could maybe move up, 1145 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,040 Speaker 5: you could trade up to twenty five, You could stick 1146 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 5: at thirty three, take a quarterback there, or I mean, 1147 00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:48,320 Speaker 5: who knows. The Browns need a lot of help. I 1148 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,719 Speaker 5: think that they understand the whole that they're in from 1149 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,239 Speaker 5: the Deshaun Watson trade, and so they're not going to 1150 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,839 Speaker 5: force the quarterback pick. If it's not there. They could 1151 00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,879 Speaker 5: go with Travis Hunter at two, you get a left 1152 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,440 Speaker 5: tackle at thirty three, you add another receiver, another tight end, 1153 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,800 Speaker 5: another running back, and then maybe they do go the 1154 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,279 Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins route, and you go into next season with 1155 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,800 Speaker 5: Kenny Pickett Kirk Cousins as your starters, and you know, 1156 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,720 Speaker 5: you look at quarterback in next year's draft. So the Browns, 1157 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 5: how they manage this quarterback situation will be really interesting. 1158 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,360 Speaker 1: Jalen Milroe, you bring him up. He's now going to 1159 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,239 Speaker 1: attend the draft, which to me felt weird because I 1160 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 1: really hadn't heard that he was projected in the first round. 1161 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,880 Speaker 1: He'd hear some whispers, but then you know, Dart obviously 1162 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 1: ahead of Milrow at least according to the experts and 1163 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 1: including you being one of the experts. But you don't 1164 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:37,719 Speaker 1: really go to that unless you're projected to be a 1165 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,359 Speaker 1: first round pick. What has changed, Honestly, I don't think 1166 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,839 Speaker 1: anything's really changed. I think Jalen Milroe and his representation 1167 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,000 Speaker 1: knows there's a chance, a decent chance, he's not drafted 1168 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,319 Speaker 1: in the first round. But I think that it's when 1169 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,800 Speaker 1: you manage expectations. It's a little bit different you know, 1170 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:58,800 Speaker 1: with everyone remembers Aaron Rodgers and Brady Quinn, and you know, 1171 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,200 Speaker 1: the cameras were on them non stop the first twenty 1172 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 1: five picks in the draft, but that's because there were 1173 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,800 Speaker 1: a lot of people expected them to go in the 1174 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 1: top three and so it was like they were they're falling. 1175 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,239 Speaker 1: I think with Milroe, the expectation is, yeah, maybe there's 1176 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 1: a chance he could go into the first but more 1177 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 1: likely he's going to go on day two. And if 1178 00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,160 Speaker 1: you're the NFL, hey that's great. 1179 00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,400 Speaker 5: We have somebody that's going to go across the stage 1180 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,399 Speaker 5: on day two, you know, play to the crowd. It's 1181 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 5: good TV. So I think the NFL is fine with 1182 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,600 Speaker 5: it as long as the cameras aren't on Jalen Milroe 1183 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,719 Speaker 5: non stop, starting, you know, with the eighth overall pick. 1184 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,080 Speaker 5: So managing the expectations are a big part of that. 1185 00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:38,800 Speaker 5: And for Milroe, you have to think about it for 1186 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,279 Speaker 5: his family to walk the red carpet and to be 1187 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,440 Speaker 5: part of that, to be in Green Bay, which has 1188 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 5: so much history, and to say you were at that draft, 1189 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 5: I mean it's a pretty cool experience. So you could 1190 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,080 Speaker 5: understand maybe why he would want to be there. 1191 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,480 Speaker 1: We'll talk about Will Campbell for a second. I measured 1192 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,400 Speaker 1: on my arm. I measured me, we did the whole thing, 1193 00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,600 Speaker 1: and I got the same size armed as Will Campbell 1194 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:03,640 Speaker 1: and I'm six six, one seventy five. I thought that 1195 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,600 Speaker 1: I would have shorter arms than Will Campbell. But how 1196 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,320 Speaker 1: much does that actually matter? Because I see when you 1197 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,000 Speaker 1: list him, you haven't listed as a tackle slash guard, 1198 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 1: and is that because of the arm issue? 1199 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,360 Speaker 5: Well, I think he is a tackle first and foremost. 1200 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,239 Speaker 5: That's where he should start. But I think you feel 1201 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,640 Speaker 5: good about okay, if it doesn't work out, we could 1202 00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,520 Speaker 5: move him to guard, or if the team that drafts 1203 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,880 Speaker 5: him already has their tackles in place, you know, like 1204 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,920 Speaker 5: think about the Bears. If Will Campbell were still available 1205 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,640 Speaker 5: at ten, you play him at guard as a rookie, 1206 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,840 Speaker 5: and then eventually he takes over as your tackle. So 1207 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,480 Speaker 5: you know, ideally, do you want thirty four inch arms 1208 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 5: thirty five and droms for your tackles? Absolutely, but I 1209 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,840 Speaker 5: think it's more of it's something that helps you. But 1210 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 5: more importantly, it's about your feet. It's more important about 1211 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,400 Speaker 5: your body control and your timing and your ability at 1212 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,759 Speaker 5: the point of attack to overpower the guy in front 1213 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,920 Speaker 5: of you, and that's what Will Campbell does at a 1214 00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,959 Speaker 5: high level. You think about it, the last three years, 1215 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,520 Speaker 5: he showed up at Baton, who's eighteen years old, won 1216 00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,680 Speaker 5: the starting left tackle job, and he has been terrific 1217 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 5: the last three years in a really good conference. The 1218 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 5: last thirty games that he played, he gave up two sacks. 1219 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:14,239 Speaker 5: So I think teams are ready to trust the tape 1220 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:15,919 Speaker 5: with a guy like this who said the tape says 1221 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 5: he can play tackle. And you know, there's some questions 1222 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,319 Speaker 5: about the combine testing and the lent and the way 1223 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,319 Speaker 5: they measured, because at the Pro Day he was at 1224 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 5: thirty three inches with the arms, and scouts are doing 1225 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,600 Speaker 5: those measurements as well, and so he wasn't the only one. 1226 00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,520 Speaker 5: There were a lot of players who measured shorter at 1227 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,799 Speaker 5: the combine. So I think that teams feel good about 1228 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 5: Will Campbell as being a tackle. 1229 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a lot of very personal selfish questions 1230 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,160 Speaker 1: now regarding either this show or where we live. I'm 1231 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:47,279 Speaker 1: gonna start with the Titans, and initially yourself included weeks 1232 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,719 Speaker 1: ago you had thought possibly they would trade that pick, 1233 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,000 Speaker 1: but now after the Pro Day, I think everybody then 1234 00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,200 Speaker 1: felt because they canceled the other workouts, they are seemingly 1235 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,759 Speaker 1: in love with cam Ward. Do we feel like the 1236 00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,640 Speaker 1: Titans are a definite cam Ward number one one, like 1237 00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 1: as close as you could possibly be, or still maybe 1238 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:04,040 Speaker 1: they trade it. 1239 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,160 Speaker 5: You never say never, but especially because we're dealing with 1240 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:11,000 Speaker 5: the first year general manager Mike Burgonzi, second year head coach, Like, 1241 00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,160 Speaker 5: you know, we don't have a track record really of 1242 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,440 Speaker 5: these guys and what they like to do in the draft, 1243 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:20,279 Speaker 5: but all signs are pointing to cam Ward. And you know, 1244 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:21,960 Speaker 5: the Titans are obviously are not going to tell us 1245 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,200 Speaker 5: what they're gonna do, but I can talk to every 1246 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,200 Speaker 5: other team and they'll tell me what they think the 1247 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,760 Speaker 5: Titans are going to do. And everybody in the NFL 1248 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,560 Speaker 5: thinks cam Ward is going one to the Titans. And 1249 00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,879 Speaker 5: you can understand why if you think that cam Ward 1250 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,600 Speaker 5: has a chance to develop into a top twelve to 1251 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:40,880 Speaker 5: fourteen quarterback in the NFL, you shouldn't pass the Titans. 1252 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,840 Speaker 5: If they don't take cam Ward, what is their avenue 1253 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,880 Speaker 5: to a quarterback? You know, it just it gets a 1254 00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 5: little bit murky. Who knows next year they might have 1255 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,919 Speaker 5: the eighth overall pick, and you're on the outside looking 1256 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,280 Speaker 5: in at one of these quarterbacks. You know, Will Levis, 1257 00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 5: this is not the same general manager that drafted Will Levis. 1258 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,200 Speaker 5: So all signs are pointing to cam Ward and think 1259 00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:01,319 Speaker 5: it makes a lot of sense for them. 1260 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,320 Speaker 1: One of the guys on the show is a massive 1261 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,120 Speaker 1: Patriots fan. They're in the top five. I think there 1262 00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:06,680 Speaker 1: are four. What do you see them doing? 1263 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,600 Speaker 5: I want to see them in draft? Will Campbell, I do. 1264 00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,600 Speaker 5: I want to see them get the left tackle. You 1265 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,239 Speaker 5: think about how good Drake May was last year as 1266 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,919 Speaker 5: a rookie with a bad offensive line with very little 1267 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 5: help around him. Okay, so well you add Stefan Diggs, 1268 00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 5: you get better on offense. 1269 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:20,879 Speaker 8: There. 1270 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 5: Let's help get him more help on the offensive line. 1271 00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,040 Speaker 5: And the only we talk a lot about the hit 1272 00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,160 Speaker 5: rate on second round quarterbacks. The only thing worse is 1273 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,920 Speaker 5: the hit rate on second round offensive tackles. It is 1274 00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 5: hard to find offensive tackles in the second round because 1275 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,279 Speaker 5: if you're good enough, you're going to go in the 1276 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,040 Speaker 5: first because there are thirty two teams that are looking 1277 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,120 Speaker 5: for offensive tackle depth. And so you know, maybe ideally, 1278 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,200 Speaker 5: if you're the Patriots, you trade back to seven, eight 1279 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,120 Speaker 5: and take him there. But there's a good chance you're 1280 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,160 Speaker 5: not going to have those offers, and so you stick 1281 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,760 Speaker 5: you pick. You take the left tackle. Worst case, absolute 1282 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,560 Speaker 5: worst case scenario. He struggles at left tackle, you move 1283 00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:59,680 Speaker 5: him inside the guard and you figure out your tackles 1284 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,160 Speaker 5: that you elsewhere. But you're going to get a starting 1285 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:06,160 Speaker 5: caliber offensive lineman who has Pro Bowl potential for the 1286 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,320 Speaker 5: long term and someone that's going to help your quarterback. 1287 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,360 Speaker 1: We have a psychotic Cowboys fan on the show and 1288 00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:12,960 Speaker 1: they're at twelve. What do you see them doing? 1289 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think the Cowboys they target more players 1290 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,360 Speaker 5: than positions when it comes to these top picks, and 1291 00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,239 Speaker 5: so I think you look at one of the top 1292 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,840 Speaker 5: receivers this year. They need help on the defensive line, 1293 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,160 Speaker 5: so you know which pass rushers are their interior on 1294 00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,799 Speaker 5: the edge. They could also use another corner. So how 1295 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,520 Speaker 5: much do they like Will Johnson from Michigan. I keep 1296 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,879 Speaker 5: coming back to receiver and how much that can help 1297 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:40,719 Speaker 5: open up the offense. Teed McMillan from Arizona, who is 1298 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,239 Speaker 5: not a burner necessarily with the speed, but he's a 1299 00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,840 Speaker 5: ball winner. I mean his catch radious, his ability to 1300 00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,840 Speaker 5: go up and make plays very similar to like a T. Higgins, 1301 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,800 Speaker 5: except McMillan's even a little more limber and loose, so 1302 00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:55,480 Speaker 5: needs to get better as a route runner. But I 1303 00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 5: think you add a talent like that, and that's just 1304 00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,359 Speaker 5: going to help ce d Lamb. It's going to help 1305 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,520 Speaker 5: Dak Prescott. And then in the second round you come 1306 00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,680 Speaker 5: back and you get that running back, whether that's Trevon 1307 00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,320 Speaker 5: Henderson or Caleb Johnson, and all of a sudden, that 1308 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:10,319 Speaker 5: Cowboys offense is getting a complete makeover within the first 1309 00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:12,399 Speaker 5: two rounds of the draft, and you're feeling a lot 1310 00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 5: better about where that offense is headed. 1311 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,560 Speaker 1: What about Shoulder, He's been all over the map? What 1312 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,080 Speaker 1: do you have him now? Right now with where we are? 1313 00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,880 Speaker 5: I would guess nine to the Saints. I don't think 1314 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:27,160 Speaker 5: he's going. Two to the Browns and three with the 1315 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,680 Speaker 5: Giants are truly a wild card because we know they're 1316 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:33,040 Speaker 5: desperate for a quarterback. But are they going to force 1317 00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,520 Speaker 5: the pick? I lean towards no. And so then it becomes, 1318 00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,560 Speaker 5: all right, where does Shador go? Nine in the Saints 1319 00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,920 Speaker 5: are possibility? Could he fall all the way into the twenties? 1320 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,760 Speaker 5: And we talk about the Steelers or maybe we talk 1321 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,959 Speaker 5: about the Browns of the Giants in the early second round, 1322 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,360 Speaker 5: trading into that late first to get a Chador or 1323 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,240 Speaker 5: maybe even a Jackson Dart. So right now, the over 1324 00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,280 Speaker 5: under one quarterbacks in the first round is two and 1325 00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,840 Speaker 5: a half. And even though this draft is more similar 1326 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,560 Speaker 5: to that Kenny Pickett year where we had one quarterback 1327 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,680 Speaker 5: in the first seventy three picks as opposed to last 1328 00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,840 Speaker 5: year where we had six in the first twelve, I 1329 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,080 Speaker 5: still think we're going to see these quarterbacks go. So 1330 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:12,919 Speaker 5: if it's at the over unders two and a half, 1331 00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:14,160 Speaker 5: I'm gonna take the over. 1332 00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,560 Speaker 1: I'm interested about the Giants because again, they signed Russ 1333 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,280 Speaker 1: and they have Jamis. Is that a band aid for 1334 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,560 Speaker 1: one maybe two years? And do you really feel like 1335 00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,000 Speaker 1: they could possibly be in the quarterback market at least 1336 00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:26,080 Speaker 1: round two three. 1337 00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,840 Speaker 5: No doubt. I think signing those two guys as quarterback insurance, 1338 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:34,400 Speaker 5: you know, it's a way to make sure you don't 1339 00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,080 Speaker 5: have to force the quarterback. But if the right quarterbacks there, 1340 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,040 Speaker 5: then do you take him? So they're a candidate possibly 1341 00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:41,560 Speaker 5: trade up in the late first to get one of 1342 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,440 Speaker 5: those guys. If they stay with their pick in the 1343 00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:48,160 Speaker 5: early second round, and the right quarterback is there, Jackson Dart. 1344 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,440 Speaker 5: You know they've done work on Jalen Milroe. Milroe is 1345 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,640 Speaker 5: really the wild card, like we've talked about. I don't 1346 00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,280 Speaker 5: think he goes first round, but could very easily go 1347 00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,080 Speaker 5: early second. Teams are really intrigued by him, even though 1348 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,400 Speaker 5: they know it's going to take time. So what they 1349 00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,919 Speaker 5: did in free agency with Jamis and Russell Wilson more 1350 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,840 Speaker 5: of quarterback insurance, making sure they don't have the force 1351 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:08,600 Speaker 5: to pick this year. 1352 00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,520 Speaker 1: So the Beast, you've been doing it for a while. 1353 00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,480 Speaker 1: We've had you on before talking about I mean, it 1354 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,680 Speaker 1: is so thorough and the Athletic dot Com you can 1355 00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:19,760 Speaker 1: see the mock the articles, everything that you do. But 1356 00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,320 Speaker 1: when do you start on this, And I'm imagining that 1357 00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,280 Speaker 1: it's always a rough draft until you actually publish it. 1358 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 5: It's a living document, it really is, and it's it's 1359 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,400 Speaker 5: a year round project. I mean right now, I've already 1360 00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:33,400 Speaker 5: started working on twenty twenty six and not really on purpose. 1361 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,240 Speaker 5: It's just inevitably you're talking to a scal you're talking 1362 00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,440 Speaker 5: to a player and they bring up a player for 1363 00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,240 Speaker 5: next year, or you're watching tape and you're watching a 1364 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,200 Speaker 5: certain pass rusher, but the a tackle starts splashing and 1365 00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:45,960 Speaker 5: you look them up and say, oh, I can need 1366 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,640 Speaker 5: to watch him for next year. So yeah, it's a 1367 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,920 Speaker 5: year round process. The summer is really when I get 1368 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,160 Speaker 5: a lot of the legwork done. That's where you create 1369 00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,760 Speaker 5: the base so there's expectations going into the season that 1370 00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:00,160 Speaker 5: then during the season, that's when you really folks on 1371 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,320 Speaker 5: the tape see who's getting better, who's emerging, and so 1372 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,360 Speaker 5: a lot of the work's done by January first, but 1373 01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,240 Speaker 5: that's when we get into All Star games and the 1374 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:12,320 Speaker 5: combine and the workouts and I really start to put 1375 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:16,560 Speaker 5: to everything, crystallize the reports and the opinions and all 1376 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,880 Speaker 5: of that. But the testing information, that's a huge part 1377 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,760 Speaker 5: of it. Having the test verified testing information for over 1378 01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:24,920 Speaker 5: twenty five hundred players. 1379 01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,600 Speaker 1: It takes a lot of work to track. 1380 01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,080 Speaker 5: It all down get it because I'm not going based 1381 01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,680 Speaker 5: off of what I see on Twitter. Every single number 1382 01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,760 Speaker 5: in the draft guide is directly from a scout, and 1383 01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:39,800 Speaker 5: so people know they're getting NFL verified numbers, and I 1384 01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,040 Speaker 5: think that's a huge part of this, just to put 1385 01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:45,040 Speaker 5: maybe into context what type of athletes these guys are 1386 01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,560 Speaker 5: and maybe you know, when our team drafts a guy 1387 01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:50,440 Speaker 5: or if they sign them as a free agent, you 1388 01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,960 Speaker 5: just have a better idea of what type of athlete 1389 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:53,560 Speaker 5: that player is. 1390 01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,240 Speaker 1: Which I go only by what's on Twitter. Say that's 1391 01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:57,919 Speaker 1: all We're different. That's why we get experts on because 1392 01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,240 Speaker 1: I'm only going by Twitter. There were two tied I 1393 01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:02,840 Speaker 1: wanted to mention. I have like two questions left and 1394 01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:07,720 Speaker 1: Tyler Warren. We watched him because Penn State was amazing. 1395 01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,720 Speaker 1: He was amazing this year, like the guy would create space. 1396 01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,840 Speaker 1: But Loveland's also freaking a stud at Michigan, And there's 1397 01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,000 Speaker 1: been a bit of debate on which one's better. In 1398 01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,400 Speaker 1: your mind, who goes first, and what's the difference in 1399 01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:19,200 Speaker 1: their skill sets? 1400 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I really don't think it's a debate because 1401 01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:23,640 Speaker 5: it just depends on what type of tight ends you want. 1402 01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,600 Speaker 5: If you want the guy that's ready made out of 1403 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:29,040 Speaker 5: the box and has a higher floor than Tyler Warren's 1404 01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,280 Speaker 5: for you. You know what he did last year, Like 1405 01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:32,840 Speaker 5: you said, he had one hundred and four catches for 1406 01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,760 Speaker 5: Penn State, and he impacted the game in so many 1407 01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,280 Speaker 5: different ways. He had four rushing touchdowns, he had a 1408 01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:42,240 Speaker 5: passing touchdown, you know, he is a well built athlete, 1409 01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,240 Speaker 5: He looks the part. He can help you out as 1410 01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,760 Speaker 5: a blocker, where with Colston Loveland he's more of the 1411 01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:53,240 Speaker 5: move tight end where big Fast has better upside, but 1412 01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,720 Speaker 5: also a little bit more of some question marks there. 1413 01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:57,720 Speaker 5: He was banged up a lot this year, doesn't really 1414 01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,520 Speaker 5: have had the frame that you want. So I think 1415 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,560 Speaker 5: if you want to bet on the upside in the athlete, 1416 01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,760 Speaker 5: totally understand Colston Loveland is that dude in his ability 1417 01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,000 Speaker 5: at the catch point. Him and Tyler Warren. Both these 1418 01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:13,040 Speaker 5: guys are so reliable, so consistent, and I think even 1419 01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,560 Speaker 5: though Tyler Warren is a good athlete, Colson Loveland is 1420 01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,040 Speaker 5: just on a different level. So if you want to 1421 01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,960 Speaker 5: chase that upside, totally get it. Loveland makes sense if 1422 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,120 Speaker 5: you want to go with maybe the better football player 1423 01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,840 Speaker 5: right now this second, I think Tyler Warren it makes 1424 01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:27,280 Speaker 5: a lot of sense as well. So it just really 1425 01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,000 Speaker 5: depends on which direction you want to go. But I 1426 01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,160 Speaker 5: think both are off the board, probably in the top 1427 01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,200 Speaker 5: fifteen picks. You know, Tyler Warren, I'd love to see 1428 01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,600 Speaker 5: him in Chicago at ten. I think that is an 1429 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:40,320 Speaker 5: underrated fit. And then with the Loveland I love him, 1430 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,840 Speaker 5: mocking him to the Colts. I think you want to 1431 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,880 Speaker 5: add an explosive playmaker. You know, you're trying to figure 1432 01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,480 Speaker 5: out who quarterback is in Indianapolis. Is it going to 1433 01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,440 Speaker 5: be Daniel Jones? Is it going to be Anthony Richardson? 1434 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,520 Speaker 5: Give them another target who's going to help open things up? 1435 01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,080 Speaker 1: So one more question for Dane. But by the way, 1436 01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,800 Speaker 1: Dane's NF I'll draft twenty twenty five the Beast. It's 1437 01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:01,920 Speaker 1: it came out a couple of days ago. Go to 1438 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,240 Speaker 1: the Athletic. I'm a subscriber, so I've already been deep 1439 01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,760 Speaker 1: into it. But the Athletic dot com it is the 1440 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,960 Speaker 1: most comprehensive draft guy of the season. And so my 1441 01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:14,160 Speaker 1: final question will be running backs, because there's like thirty 1442 01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,880 Speaker 1: running backs that are good. It's a deep running back class. 1443 01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:19,439 Speaker 1: But how many in the first round? 1444 01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:20,080 Speaker 3: Two? 1445 01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:21,960 Speaker 1: Three? Probably two? 1446 01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,000 Speaker 5: And I think you know, the biggest reason not to 1447 01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:26,960 Speaker 5: draft a running back in the first round this year 1448 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,360 Speaker 5: is exactly what you said. There's there's thirty good ones. 1449 01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:33,360 Speaker 5: I put draftable grades on thirty running backs this year, 1450 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,720 Speaker 5: So you know, I think you feel good. Okay, let's 1451 01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,480 Speaker 5: let's get our tackle in the first Let's get our 1452 01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:42,080 Speaker 5: corner in the first and then because we feel good 1453 01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:45,520 Speaker 5: about rounds two, in rounds three, getting those guys. Now, 1454 01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:47,680 Speaker 5: Ashon Genti he's too good. He's going to go in 1455 01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:49,720 Speaker 5: the top ten, one of the best players in this draft. 1456 01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,240 Speaker 5: And then I think Omrion Hampton from North Carolina also 1457 01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:56,439 Speaker 5: goes in that first round. I keep, you know, looking 1458 01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,080 Speaker 5: at that fit in Denver and what he would bring 1459 01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:02,480 Speaker 5: to Sean Payton offense with you know, the promised bo 1460 01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:04,760 Speaker 5: Nick showed last year a team that made the playoffs. 1461 01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,160 Speaker 5: But then you look at the second round and okay, 1462 01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:10,960 Speaker 5: quin Shawn Judkins and Travon Henderson and Caleb Johnson and 1463 01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,720 Speaker 5: we could go on and on talking about these running backs. 1464 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:17,000 Speaker 5: So teams feel really good about waiting till day two, 1465 01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,840 Speaker 5: even into round four and five, and still feeling like 1466 01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,240 Speaker 5: they're getting a really good running back. So we're gonna 1467 01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:23,880 Speaker 5: see a lot of running backs come off the board. 1468 01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:25,840 Speaker 5: I think we'll see at least two though in the 1469 01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:26,400 Speaker 5: first round. 1470 01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:28,960 Speaker 1: Okay, my final final question, where do you see scatbow 1471 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,040 Speaker 1: going like around what number pick. 1472 01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:35,480 Speaker 5: I would say somewhere between eighty five and one hundred 1473 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,560 Speaker 5: and fifteen. You know that late third, early fourth. He's 1474 01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:40,840 Speaker 5: not going to be for everybody, but you know, you 1475 01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:42,560 Speaker 5: could see where a lot of teams are going to 1476 01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:44,600 Speaker 5: look at what he does in the passing game, see 1477 01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,560 Speaker 5: how physical he is, and say, yeah, okay, we could 1478 01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:49,960 Speaker 5: add that to our offense and we can make that work. 1479 01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,240 Speaker 1: You follow him, DP Brugler, and we'll put all the 1480 01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,520 Speaker 1: notes in our podcast so everybody can see where to 1481 01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:59,920 Speaker 1: actually go. But the beast, dude, it's it's excellent. Congratulations 1482 01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:01,720 Speaker 1: on finishing it and putting it out. I know how 1483 01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:03,800 Speaker 1: much work it's got to be, so we love it 1484 01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:05,200 Speaker 1: and we appreciate your time. 1485 01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:06,480 Speaker 5: No anytime, I thank you. 1486 01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:11,360 Speaker 1: All right, there is Dan Bugler everybody. Before we wrap, 1487 01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,200 Speaker 1: I just wanted to play a clip from another podcast 1488 01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:17,320 Speaker 1: I do with NFL quarterback Matt Castle and the podcast 1489 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,680 Speaker 1: is called Lots to Say, and we had on UFC 1490 01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:22,720 Speaker 1: octagon announcer Bruce Buffer. 1491 01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:24,160 Speaker 3: That is awesome. 1492 01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:29,080 Speaker 1: It was a really good interview, was it. Yeah, it's good, Yeah, 1493 01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:31,120 Speaker 1: he was. It was a great interview. 1494 01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:34,400 Speaker 3: My favorite thing about Bruce Buffer is every time he 1495 01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:37,480 Speaker 3: announces a fighter, he gives him a fist pump and 1496 01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:40,120 Speaker 3: he yelps their names right in front of their face 1497 01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,000 Speaker 3: and it almost gets the fighter pump too. 1498 01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:45,360 Speaker 1: I love such a UFC guy every week. Man. So 1499 01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,160 Speaker 1: his half brother is the greatest ring announcer of all time, 1500 01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:52,200 Speaker 1: Michael Buffer. But they didn't meet until their twenties. I 1501 01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:53,360 Speaker 1: thought they just grew up and they were just like 1502 01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:58,880 Speaker 1: two little kids going eight years old on four. Not 1503 01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:02,120 Speaker 1: the case at all, that imies. It's a very cool story. 1504 01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,080 Speaker 1: But you can go and listen to the full interview, 1505 01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:06,640 Speaker 1: which about half hour long on our podcast called Lots 1506 01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:10,360 Speaker 1: to Say. But here is Bruce Buffer talking about meeting 1507 01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:11,840 Speaker 1: his brother in the timeline of it all. 1508 01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,720 Speaker 8: We're long lost haf brothers. We met each other when 1509 01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,000 Speaker 8: I was twenty eight years old. I saw him on 1510 01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:19,760 Speaker 8: TV being a huge boxing fan of my dad and 1511 01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:22,560 Speaker 8: my brother Brian and I, you know, watching boxing all 1512 01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:27,920 Speaker 8: our lives. Out came this handsome debonair James Bond looking 1513 01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:31,200 Speaker 8: individual with that famous five words let's get ready to rumble, 1514 01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:34,160 Speaker 8: And when they conrand his name on the screen Michael Buffer, 1515 01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:38,400 Speaker 8: I'm like, WHOA, Who's this right? Because I own telemarketing 1516 01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:43,280 Speaker 8: companies in my twenties and thirties and before the Internet, 1517 01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:45,479 Speaker 8: I never saw my last name in a phone book 1518 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:47,200 Speaker 8: in the United States, so it kind of really struck me. 1519 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:51,000 Speaker 8: Funny lost story cut short, my dad never told me 1520 01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,520 Speaker 8: that he had been married at the age of twenty 1521 01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:56,760 Speaker 8: when he was going over to serve in World War Two. 1522 01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,080 Speaker 8: It was a brief marriage and he came back, a 1523 01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:03,840 Speaker 8: divorce ensued, but a child was born, and last time 1524 01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:05,160 Speaker 8: he saw the child was when he was two and 1525 01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:08,880 Speaker 8: a half. And Michael was raised under the name of 1526 01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:14,360 Speaker 8: Hubert by foster parents great as he calls it, leave 1527 01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:17,000 Speaker 8: it to Beaver upbringing. And when he went in the 1528 01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,960 Speaker 8: army at twenty, they said, your birth certificate says you're Buffer, 1529 01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,400 Speaker 8: because he was never formally adopted, so they said, you're 1530 01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:26,480 Speaker 8: not Michael Huber, You're Michael Buffer. And had that not happened, 1531 01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:30,680 Speaker 8: and the events had led him into being the legendary, greatest, 1532 01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,360 Speaker 8: you know, announcer of all times, as I like to say, 1533 01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:38,680 Speaker 8: and most everybody believes he we wouldn't be sitting here 1534 01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:41,760 Speaker 8: talking right now because we did when he did see 1535 01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,959 Speaker 8: him on TV and and my dad called a local 1536 01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,520 Speaker 8: arena here in Los Angeles to receive a country club 1537 01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:49,760 Speaker 8: left a message for Michael to call him back, and 1538 01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,240 Speaker 8: Michael called him back. That got together for lunch, and 1539 01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,480 Speaker 8: it turned out to be his long lost son and 1540 01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,040 Speaker 8: we all got together and we got along famously. You know, 1541 01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:00,439 Speaker 8: everybody got along great. And four years later I sold 1542 01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,760 Speaker 8: two companies I was doing incredible with but I was 1543 01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,360 Speaker 8: burned out, not happy with what I was doing. And 1544 01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,840 Speaker 8: I had an epiphany and I said, Michael, I need 1545 01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,160 Speaker 8: to become your manager and your partner. I want to 1546 01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:13,000 Speaker 8: make you Richard more famous you ever dreamed, and put 1547 01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:16,519 Speaker 8: you everywhere in the world and TV, make video games, toys, 1548 01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,400 Speaker 8: this that the other trademark this phrase properly. He had 1549 01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:21,120 Speaker 8: never even made a hat or T shirt at that 1550 01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:24,200 Speaker 8: time with the saying on it. And I said, I 1551 01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:27,479 Speaker 8: will saw this quit with the money, having the bank 1552 01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:29,560 Speaker 8: and make all this happen. He said, how are you 1553 01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:30,920 Speaker 8: going to do all that? I said, I really don't know, 1554 01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,040 Speaker 8: I said, but I'll figure it out. If I'm going 1555 01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:34,719 Speaker 8: to give this up, I'm going to make it happen. 1556 01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:37,200 Speaker 8: And that was, you know, thirty five plus years ago, 1557 01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,080 Speaker 8: and now where he where we are today? 1558 01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:44,960 Speaker 1: Okay, that's it? Is there an update on the pickleball 1559 01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:48,599 Speaker 1: guy boys. We have life? 1560 01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:50,760 Speaker 3: Oh okay, snap, he's not dead. 1561 01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:51,719 Speaker 1: We have life. 1562 01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:55,040 Speaker 6: He is alive, and Riley respond, unless somebody's running his account. 1563 01:08:55,080 --> 01:09:00,320 Speaker 1: No, wait, did he message you? So he followed me back? 1564 01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,240 Speaker 6: Okay, good, So now I can actually message him, great, 1565 01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:06,679 Speaker 6: which I did right away, and that was on Wednesday. 1566 01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:09,400 Speaker 6: He followed me back. I messaged him and let me 1567 01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:12,160 Speaker 6: check again. Make sure Twitter as of nothing. 1568 01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,240 Speaker 1: It'll tell you read though, yeah, and so is it read? No? 1569 01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:20,360 Speaker 1: It just says yesterday what happened? Okay, So he's alive 1570 01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:20,960 Speaker 1: a lie. 1571 01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:21,960 Speaker 3: Thank god, it's good. 1572 01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:24,600 Speaker 1: And we're trying to get a response and I'll go 1573 01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,160 Speaker 1: play and pick a ball for a thousand bucks. And 1574 01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:29,880 Speaker 1: he's been ignoring Kevin and Reid, but Kevin said, I 1575 01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:31,559 Speaker 1: want to DM you so we can set this up. 1576 01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:34,720 Speaker 1: So now he's follow Okay, we have life. Well at 1577 01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:35,439 Speaker 1: least he's not dead. 1578 01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:37,559 Speaker 3: He's not dead exactly. 1579 01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:41,479 Speaker 1: Okay, thank you guys. If you don't mind, please go 1580 01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,439 Speaker 1: subscribe if you really really don't mind, and this could 1581 01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:47,680 Speaker 1: probably help your betting and good luck, go and leave 1582 01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:49,720 Speaker 1: us a comment like review us. Oh he gives a 1583 01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:52,040 Speaker 1: good review, because I'll probably help your betting if you 1584 01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,680 Speaker 1: don't mean absolutely it would if you don't have bad luck. Uh, 1585 01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:56,920 Speaker 1: and we also owe money to who won the he. 1586 01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,960 Speaker 3: Had here wait red one, the whole thing. 1587 01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:06,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, stupid. It's so stupid. I know raids like basketball. 1588 01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:09,160 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't really know which hoop to go. 1589 01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:10,160 Speaker 1: They look the same. 1590 01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:13,240 Speaker 3: That's March mad there. 1591 01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:17,360 Speaker 1: So we'll get that next week on Monday. Okay, you 1592 01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:18,799 Speaker 1: guys have a great weekend. 1593 01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:19,479 Speaker 6: Uh. 1594 01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:23,320 Speaker 1: That's it. Eddie blow the whistle and we will see 1595 01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:25,320 Speaker 1: you guys next week. Bye. 1596 01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:25,599 Speaker 7: Buddy. 1597 01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:31,479 Speaker 1: Theme song written by Bobby Bones That's Me and performed 1598 01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:35,960 Speaker 1: by Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on socials at Brandon Ray Music. 1599 01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:39,280 Speaker 1: You can follow the show on Instagram at Bobby Bone Sports. 1600 01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:43,200 Speaker 1: Thanks to our crew co host at Producer Ready, segment 1601 01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:47,600 Speaker 1: producer at Kickoff, Kevin video producer at Red Arberry, an 1602 01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:51,560 Speaker 1: executive producer at Mike Diestro, but most importantly, thank you 1603 01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:54,240 Speaker 1: for listening. Bobby Bones. We'll talk to you next time 1604 01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:55,559 Speaker 1: here on twenty five whistles