1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Ks. 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Carol Marcowitch Show on iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 3: My guest today is Tim Rice. Tim is deputy managing 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 3: editor at The Daily Wire. 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: Hi, Tim, so nice to have you on. 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: Hey, Carol, thanks for having me. 7 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 3: Tell me about your path to becoming the deputy managing 8 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 3: editor at Daily Wire. 9 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: Did you always want to be in media? 10 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's funny. I kind of took a circuitous 11 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: path to where I am, but I did citus. Yeah, 12 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: all right. When I was in college, I really wanted 13 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: to work in media, and I actually had internships at 14 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: Believe it or Not, MSNBC and CBS News in New York. 15 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: I was played for a slightly different team then. But 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: you know, after I graduated, it became clear to me 17 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: two things. One was that there weren't a ton of 18 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: jobs to get in TV news, and the other is 19 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: that most of the jobs that were available I didn't 20 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: really want. So I wound up kind of weirdly after 21 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: a couple of months at home and sort of trying 22 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: to take the next job that came my way. I 23 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: took a job as a project manager at the Manhattan Institute, 24 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: working on the health policy team, and that was just 25 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: sort of like a roll of the dice. I was 26 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: this was the kind of the beginning of the campus 27 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: free speech stuff, and that was the first thing that 28 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: really sort of got me thinking that I was maybe 29 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: interested in a more conservative kind of politics. You know. 30 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: I wasn't necessarily there yet on economic matters or things 31 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: like that, but I thought this was really bad, Like, yeah, 32 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: this is really bad. And being on a college campus 33 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: where fortunately we didn't have that happen at holy Cross 34 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: where I went, but it felt like very it felt 35 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: very close to home, you know, because I was like, oh, 36 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: if this happened here, that would be bad. So it 37 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: turned out though that I kind of enjoyed health policy, 38 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: and the more I was exposed to, you know, all 39 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: the great thinkers and ideas that happening, the more I 40 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: realized that this was where, uh, sort of my intellectual 41 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: and political home was. And also around that time, I 42 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: started writing and editing. I was helping scholars write off eds. 43 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: I started eventually publishing under my own name, and that's 44 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: really what I thought, Okay, this is something that I 45 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: want to do. I moved to Washington was working at 46 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: a small consulting firm in Georgetown for a little bit 47 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: so that was sort of like Peelly. That was my 48 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: real crucible moment. I was just faking through copy all 49 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: the time, still trying to do my own thing. Spent 50 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: the smallest little bit of time in the first Trump administration. 51 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: I joined I think the second week of July twenty 52 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: twenty and then just ran out of the clock at 53 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: the Office of Personnel Management. So that was fun. And 54 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: then right when I was I worked up until the 55 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: last day the Friday before Inauguration Day, and I actually 56 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: at the time that I started talking to the Washington 57 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: Free Beacon they were looking to hire an editor, and 58 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: I actually left oh pm on my last the last 59 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 1: day of the Trump administration, I walked outside and sat 60 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: on a park bench across the street and I called 61 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: to accept my job there. Started out as an associate 62 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: editor there was there for about four years, left as 63 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: the senior editor. And yeah, it's been just about a 64 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: year since I joined the Wire and it's been fantastic. 65 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: It's a very great uh, it's a really awesome publication, 66 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: as hopefully many of your listeners know, and a really 67 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: cool team, and it's an exciting moment. We're actually opening 68 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: a DC bureau. We're days away from opening the brick 69 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: and mortar. So in addition to my deputy managerial duties, 70 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: I'm also going to be heading up the DC office, 71 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: which we're hoping to grow and expand at the moment. 72 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: And yeah, we can boast that we have our White 73 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: House correspondent, Mary Margaret Olhan. 74 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: Who is amazing on the show's been on the program. 75 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: She's everywhere, all all the time, all at once. Whatever 76 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,119 Speaker 1: that movie was, Yeah. 77 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 2: That movie was not good, but yes, but Mary Margaret 78 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: is very. 79 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: Good right now. It's it's she and I just sort 80 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: of trying to put some roots down here in d C. 81 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, so kind of a crazy journey from MSNBC 82 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: to Daily wires Man in DC in the swamp, but uh, 83 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: it's been it's been a pretty fantastic, uh journey so far. 84 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: Well, we're very glad to have you on the right. 85 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 3: So do you feel like you have a beat, like 86 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 3: is there are there kind of topics that you. 87 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: Are more interested in than others? 88 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: Well, in terms of my interests, I'm still kind of 89 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: and we don't really do a ton of this. We're 90 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: trying to. We're doing a little bit more of it now, 91 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: but I mean, I'm still like a diet in the 92 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: whole healthcare guy. That's like me personally, I would say, 93 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: in terms of policy issues, that's what I sort of 94 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 1: gravitated you. In addition to more just sort of like 95 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: general culture things. And I don't write a ton what 96 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: I do. Uh, that's actually not even really true anymore. 97 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: I do write more for the Wire just because we're 98 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: constantly cracking things out. But you know, for the longest time, 99 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: if I would write, I would just sort of write 100 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: like more human interest pieces or you know, sort of 101 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: general cultural commentary. But no, in terms of my actual job, 102 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: I just really it's me and and my my good 103 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: friend Brent Shirr, who's our or in chief. 104 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 2: It's great. 105 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's also been on the show. 106 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 3: And if not, no, he hasn't. I've tried. Yeah, he's 107 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 3: very hard to get. 108 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: As you can work. We can work on that, but 109 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: pretty much, and of course, you know, a million other people. 110 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: We have a whole stable of editors, but Brett and 111 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: I just sort of anything, Yeah, it's printed on the 112 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: website goes at the at least at some point through 113 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: one of us. Again in addition to a gazillion other people. 114 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, No, I don't really see myself as having it. 115 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: My beat is whatever my writers are doing right at 116 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: the moment. And so at the beacon that was I had. 117 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: By the time I was gone, I covered everything because 118 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: I had writers who were our court reporters are science reporters, education, 119 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: foreign policy, investigative reporters. And now it's the same thing. 120 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: We've got some great investigative reporters are just doing you know, 121 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: whatever crazy things they can come up with, Like Luke 122 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: Rosiac is an absolute killer. I don't even know what 123 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: Luke does or how he does it. I just know 124 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: that it's awesome, and I let him cook. And we've 125 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: got Mary Margaret and the White House. We've got folks 126 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: covering foreign policy, education, social issues, so I mean, yeah, 127 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: it's it's honestly. One of my favorite things about the 128 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: job is that every single day is different. It's just 129 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: a constant different permutations of you know, who's working on 130 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: what and what's happening in the news. And you know, 131 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: I hate long term projects. I've never been a fan 132 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: of long term projects. I hate. 133 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 2: This is a perfect job for you, right. 134 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: You're fifteen more days until that's due or until that 135 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: event like this is really just right to do. 136 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 2: Right now, it's out in an. 137 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: Hour, and then it's basically irrelevant by the time it's published. Starting. 138 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really hard. 139 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 3: I find it really difficult when I write for places 140 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 3: that have a long lead time. Having said that, this 141 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 3: show has a long lead time, so this will be 142 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 3: out in a few weeks, but I really it's very 143 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 3: hard for me to like wait for my piece to 144 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 3: come out, and if it's like a week or something, 145 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 3: that's just it's tough for sure. So you're a healthcare 146 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 3: policy guy, I feel like that's an undercovered topic on 147 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 3: the right, and I think that there could be so 148 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: much more on it. What do you think is undercovered 149 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 3: or do you find it undercovered as well? 150 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: Oh, one thousand percent. It's I talk about this a lot. 151 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: And you know, if you think back to right before 152 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen presidential election, right where everything sort of 153 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: got upended for good reasons and bad reasons, right, the 154 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: good reasons being you know, sort of the shift in 155 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: President Trump coming in and kind of upsetting the status quo, 156 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: and you know, things kind of you know, a lot 157 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: of things come into a head and the bad ways 158 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: of just all of a sudden the main issue on 159 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: Democrats kind of polarizing everything. Like the biggest issue that 160 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: everyone was talking about in September twenty sixteen was EpiPen prisis. 161 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: Bernie was going crazy. People were defended. We had all 162 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: these different bills. We were talking about Obamacare m It 163 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: was huge, and there were, of course, like good ideas 164 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: and stupid ideas, weird ideas, but it was a really 165 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: pretty productive policy conversation if you go back and look 166 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: at the things people were debating. Things got weird in 167 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: the first Trump administration because the president and his team 168 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: sort of started trying out things that had been kind 169 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,559 Speaker 1: of the purview of the left, and then letdn't really 170 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: know what to do with that, so don't. Yeah, they 171 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: still don't. They stopped talking about it, and then COVID happened, 172 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: and then for about five minutes, Republicans were like, see 173 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: big pharma, We've been telling you for years, it's great. 174 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: But then that flipped and now and then Democrats were 175 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: pro big pharma, and now nobody's pro big pharma, right, 176 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: and no one wants to talk about health insurance, and 177 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: we're kind of having a good conversation about Medicaid now 178 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: but yeah, so, I mean those are I sort of 179 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: think of it in those three buckets. I think of entitlements, 180 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: the prices, and just insurance in general, and I think 181 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: it's all undercovered. I think that there is. 182 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 3: Is it because people just don't have like the background information, 183 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 3: Like I feel like a lot of stories on it 184 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 3: would need a lot of like how we got here, 185 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 3: like why things are the way they are. 186 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 2: Here's a whole book you can read about it. 187 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: I think that's part of it, And especially because like 188 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: even the a couple of years where no one was 189 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: talking about it, Like I'm sure that if I called 190 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: my interns right now and ask them about like Obamacare, 191 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: they wouldn't even think. Whereas, like, you know, I feel 192 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: like I sometimes still think of Obamacare as this new 193 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: thing that we should fight. It's been what fifty ten years, 194 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: eleven years since. 195 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 2: I still think we should fight it. 196 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm like wow, accepting this, And it's like, 197 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: you know, my interns probably like basically grew up in 198 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: a world with Obamacare, right, So I do think that's 199 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: part of it. I think another part of it is 200 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: that healthcare is other than education. Healthcare is one of 201 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: the most personal policy areas. At some point, all of 202 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: us are going to go through the healthcare system, just 203 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: like all of us have gone through the education system, 204 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: and it obviously can be more painful, and it's it's 205 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to diminish education policy, certainly, 206 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: but like there is it's easier to channel anger when right, 207 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: like you figure out what your kids are learning, and 208 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: then it's like there's obviously like a lot that we 209 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: have to do, but there's a very quick first step, 210 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: which is like fire the teachers, right, we'll homeschool your kids, 211 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: or we got to fix like we know where to 212 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: stop it with healthcare because it's so multifascinated. I think 213 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: that same impulse, right, like so much political interest, so 214 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: much of what drives policy is when does this affect me? 215 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: And how moved am I am? To fight it? Right, 216 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: But it's hard to then latch onto it, like what's 217 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: the problem. Is it big pharma? Is it the insurance companies? 218 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: Is it the government? I mean the answer is yes, 219 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: it's all of that and it's all locked. But so 220 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: I think it's hard and then people start be the 221 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: over emphasize like this is why, and there's a lot 222 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: of good stuff with the MAHA movement. Yeah, I think 223 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: you know, I would love I'll just say this, I 224 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: would love if the MAHA guys talked a little bit 225 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: about more of the structural problems about entitlement reform, about 226 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 1: things like that instead of just like, yeah, ban red 227 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: dye number forty, make sure the meat is better, encourage 228 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: people to exercise and live healthy lifestyles. Fantastic, But like, 229 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: what about medicaid? What about all these insane things going 230 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: through Obamacare? What about bringing back some of the twenty 231 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: seventeen Trump era insurance regulations? What about coming up with 232 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: a vision for what our healthcare system looks like? Because yeah, 233 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: you can make people so healthy, you really can. But like, 234 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: people are still going to get sick, people are still 235 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: going to die, people are still going to get hurt. 236 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: People are always going to need to go to hospitals, 237 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: see doctors, take drugs, and pay for all of it. 238 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: And we have yet to figure out how to do 239 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: any of that. And so I do think that that 240 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: is still something that you know, is not necessarily covered 241 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: as much as it should be, And I definitely think 242 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: that it should be talked about more for you, Like, 243 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: I feel like I. 244 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 3: Just heard a book pitch, and I expect your next 245 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 3: appearance on the show, I'm going to be talking about 246 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 3: the book that all my listeners should buy because this 247 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 3: is I agree. I think this needs to all be 248 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 3: you know, it needs to be covered more extensively, and 249 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 3: I think you're the man to do it. 250 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: I I nominate you, I accept, I accept. If there 251 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: are any publishers listening, you can fill there are, Yeah, sure, 252 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure I've got the pitch somewhere in a Google doc. 253 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: It's it. I clearly think about this a lot. So 254 00:11:58,320 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: it's so. 255 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 3: Funny because you know, I've follow you on X and 256 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 3: I really thought you were going to say that your 257 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 3: beat or your like topic, that you're really interested in culture, 258 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 3: Like you seem like you're a culture guy. 259 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's define. 260 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 2: I think I didn't picture healthcare wonk. 261 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,599 Speaker 1: You know I contain multitudes, you know this? 262 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? 263 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: Well, also, no one, I mean, look, no one cares 264 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: what you tweet about health policy. There used to be 265 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: a really good there used to be like a really 266 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: good section on X of like healthcare guys. And no, 267 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: there's none of them use it anymore. They're all either 268 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: like retired this on Blue Sky or they're just like 269 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: completely given up because it's not fun anymore. But yeah, no, 270 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: I would say the culture stuff is absolutely Also, it's 271 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: interesting that you say that. I I'm glad that comes across. 272 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: I guess that is what I what I mostly post about. 273 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going to take a quick break and be 274 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 3: right back on the Carol Markowitch Show. 275 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 2: What do you worry about? 276 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: I used to worry about everything. I'm a very a 277 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: very anxious person by nature. Really, yeah, I not in 278 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: like a crazy. 279 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: Like I don't. 280 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: Know, but I was always like there was I used 281 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: to just I don't know I was. I'm an overthinker 282 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: or a worrier, I'm not sure. And I say used 283 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: to because I have an almost two year old daughter. 284 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: My daughter is going to be two in a couple 285 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:21,239 Speaker 1: of weeks, and I have twins on the way. Wowk wow, 286 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: so's thank you. Yeah. But ever since I became a dad, 287 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: I just worry about my kids and the future, and 288 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 1: like in a way that I think is much more productive. 289 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 1: And I'm sure as a parent, you know exactly what 290 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. I mean, obviously, for the first I'm 291 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: the typical dad in that the first few months, I 292 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: was terrified and always going into Now I'm slicking my 293 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: daughter over my shoulder like a potatoes, just to like 294 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: care something. But I worry about I worry about my kids. 295 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: I worry about, you know, what life is going to 296 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: look like in the future, what the country is going 297 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: to look like. I want them to grow up and 298 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 1: be happy and healthy and all the things that every 299 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 1: parent wants for uh uh, you know, for the kids. 300 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: And so that's that's that's pretty much it. Yeah, And 301 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: it's funny, I don't even worry in I don't even 302 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: worry about raising them, Like I don't. I say that 303 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: sometimes and people, oh, no, you're you're gonna be a 304 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: great dad, and I'm like, I'm actually, I'm pretty confident 305 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: that I'm I know, yeah, my wife is going to 306 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: be is a fantastic mother. It's like, I'm not worried. 307 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: It's going to be crazy, Like having twins is going 308 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: to be insane, but I'm not worried about it because like, 309 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: what am I gonna do. I'm gonna figure it out. 310 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: They're coming. I'm worry about like down the line, and 311 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes that veers into political things. It's definitely 312 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: made me a little bit more reactionary on some things 313 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: that I didn't care about before I had kids. 314 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: It's amazing how that happens. 315 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 3: Right suddenly you're like, wait a minute, oh this is crazy. 316 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, it's like the libertarian leaving my 317 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: body when I realized, well, it doesn't affect me because 318 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: now it's it's comp. 319 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, I'm very libertarian adjacent, but like, having kids 320 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 3: definitely moves you firmly into the conservative column. 321 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: One hundred percent. But yeah, I would say that's pretty 322 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: much it. But yeah, once you have it's really it's 323 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: it is kind of amazing. I know a lot of 324 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: you know this is we're only the only the seven 325 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: million people to talk about why everyone should have kids, 326 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: especially on the right. But yeah, you know one thing 327 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: that I feel like people certainly say it. This is 328 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: not an original thought to me, but like it really 329 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: does people put everything into perspective, Like for sure, really 330 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: like I'm so much happier, not just because my daughter 331 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: is just like this amazing mm hmm creature who I love, 332 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: and it's been amazing to become a father and have 333 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: a family, but like you're just so much happier because 334 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: you don't have time to be happy about things that 335 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: don't matter. Like that's it. You can just and it's like, yeah, 336 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: maybe you have like fewer concerns, but like it really 337 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: is just that simple sometimes not you sit down with 338 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: your husband or your wife, you have a glass of 339 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: wine or a you put on a movie, you read 340 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: a book, you go for a walk, and it's like 341 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: this is kind of it. This is this is what 342 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: it's all about. So I don't really worry about anything 343 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: anymore because it dad. 344 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's the right perspective. I've also I've gotten 345 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 3: really into country music, and country music is all like 346 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 3: it literally is like you get married and you have 347 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 3: a child and you bury the dog in the backyard 348 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 3: and you know, and that's your life right there. 349 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 2: And I'm like crying in my car. 350 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: It's like my wife and I have a really good 351 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: friend who puts is it next thing you do? Next thing? 352 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 3: And you know, I can't even I like, as soon 353 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 3: as it comes on, I have to change it. 354 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: We have a friend who puts that on like every playlist. 355 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: It's just like it won't even fit, but you know, 356 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: it'll be all like seventies like funk classics and then 357 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: that'll come on and what is wrong with you? 358 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 3: That song brings the house down for me every single time. 359 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: It's just it's too much. 360 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: It's like our generation's Cats in the Cradle. It's kind 361 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: of worse. 362 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 2: It's really good. 363 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, rapid passage of time. 364 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, And nothing really happens in that song, right, he 365 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 3: just lives like a normal life and he has a 366 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 3: you know, marries a girl and has a family. I 367 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 3: just nothing happens that is unbelievable or unique, and yet 368 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 3: it's like so powerful. 369 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 2: And amazing, and I can't listen to it at all. 370 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 2: My kids are just like, oh. 371 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 3: Change the song, Like Mom's gonna start crying right now. 372 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: Yep. 373 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but it's amazing. 374 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 3: It's amazing how having kids puts everything into focus and 375 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 3: like how all the doom scrolling and the nonsense doesn't 376 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 3: matter anymore. It's I always say, it's like my husband 377 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 3: having you know, being in a good relationship also like 378 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 3: puts a force field around you, like you just don't 379 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 3: care about anything but the kids part for sure as well. 380 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well in marriage, it's also like it can kind 381 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: of like yes and no, because if you also are 382 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 1: in a good relationship that that also means that you 383 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: have someone who you can like complain to or like 384 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: talk about these things too all the time, so it's 385 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: like it's not it gets you there. And of course, 386 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: like if they're supportive, they'll talk to you. But it's 387 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: like you have someone instead of just like, you know, 388 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: kind of putting it out of your mind. Maybe I 389 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: should just talk. 390 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, But if somebody is mean to you on 391 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 3: the internet, you're like, I don't care, Like, yeah, my 392 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 3: real life is unbelievable, like. 393 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: You for the seventy fifth. 394 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 2: Time this week, and awesome, it's just so good. 395 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 1: I have so many thoughts about the movie in Kanto. 396 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: It's my daughter's like it's the only thing that you 397 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: want to listen to. And the music is nice enough 398 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: that it's like my wife and I are happy to 399 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: throw it on in the car instead of like just 400 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,959 Speaker 1: nursery rhymes. We talk a lot about in Kanto in 401 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: this house. Now. That's so good. 402 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great movie. I you know, they really 403 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 3: know what they're doing over there. 404 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 405 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, So what advice would you give your sixteen year 406 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 3: old self? 407 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 2: You have a daughter, you have two more on the way, 408 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 2: but when. 409 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 3: You think about your own life, what advice would you 410 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 3: give sixteen year old Tim? 411 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I honestly, and I mean this sort of goes 412 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: back to the answer of my last question. I would 413 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: tell sixteen year old Tim to just stop worrying so much. 414 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: You know, that was probably I would say, like, do 415 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: you worry a lot? Yeah? But again, you know, not 416 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 1: like I was just a very like I was. I 417 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: was like a high achieving nerd in high school, you know, 418 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: the biggest warriors. 419 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 420 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: I didn't worry that the sky was falling, but I 421 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: worried about I had a test to college getting the 422 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: right extracurricular is you know insert what am I worrying about? 423 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: Not worrying enough? Right, like, so I'm already And then 424 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: the second year, you know, I was that kid, you know, 425 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 1: someone else on the school paper. Oh, I got some 426 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: internship with the local paper. I'm just playing to work 427 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: as a camp counselor again all of a sudden, yeah, 428 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: well there goes my dream of working at the New 429 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: York Times, which you know, ol like right, like that 430 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: sort of soul, I would tell six year old Tim, 431 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: you know, stop worrying. It doesn't really matter that much. 432 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: There's no real way to know what's gonna happen, right 433 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: like I and not even like it's funny, I even 434 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: as I think about it now, I did worry about 435 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: all those things, but I wasn't I was also like 436 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: I wasn't I said type I actually wasn't Type A. 437 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: I was more just like I wanted to like be 438 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: the best at things, but I actually wasn't that good. 439 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: But I wasn't good at planning. So like I really 440 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: have a plan. I was like, I just want to 441 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: like get good grades so I can go to a 442 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: good college, go to a good college, and then crush 443 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: it like question, you know, it's not like and then 444 00:19:58,680 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 1: I need to be pre law. 445 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 2: And I take over the world. 446 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, basically shows holy Cross as an accident and it 447 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: was probably one of the best things that I ever did. 448 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: So like stuff like that, you know, like I had 449 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: these vacuous ideas of who I wanted to be as 450 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: an adult and what I wanted to do. And don't 451 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: think that family and kids figured into it that much. 452 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: Not in like an anti way, but because I was sixteen. 453 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: And if you're a sixteen year old boy who doesn't 454 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: grow up on country music, you know, I didn't think 455 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: about like having a wife and kids. I thought about 456 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: like having like cool suits and living in a party 457 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: in New York or something. 458 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 3: Rights exactly, yeah, like yeah, it was like, you know, 459 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 3: that was like peak like USA network shows about guys. 460 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: I just kind of like look cool and have awesome 461 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: jobs and make a lot of money. And I was like, 462 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: that seems good, I'll do that. Wow. The fact that 463 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: I thought journalism was the way to that sort of 464 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: point hilarious sort that And honestly this might sound cliche, 465 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: but I was, you know, I'd probably tell them to 466 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: like be do like a little fifflix, do some more 467 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: bad things like I talked to like my friends or 468 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: my wife, even like none of them were bad kids. 469 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: Beat oh yeah, like all the time, like snuck out 470 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: and had like a party in the woods or what. Listen. 471 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: It's not that I didn't, you know, I had. I 472 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: had an agree at high school. I was thought I 473 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: wasn't that much of a nerd. But like I probably 474 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: could have done more. I probably could have chilled out 475 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: a little. I could have cared at less about you know, 476 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: whatever I thought I was supposed to be caring about, 477 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: which again I think is probably like the most generic 478 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: advice that like a thirty year old guy can give 479 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: to myself. But like, you know, it's it's, uh, it's no. 480 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 2: I think caring less. 481 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 3: It's funny because I've had people on the show say 482 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 3: that they would advise their teenage self to care more 483 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 3: because they didn't care a lot and they kind of 484 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 3: like skated through high school and maybe they should have 485 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 3: worked harder. 486 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 2: I think, you know, with the power of. 487 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 3: Being able to look back at what your life was, 488 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 3: I think. 489 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 2: That people maybe just say the opposite of what they were. 490 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: Right. 491 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 3: I was a solid B student. I didn't work at all. 492 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 3: There was no woods in Brooklyn, but if there were, 493 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 3: I would have partied in the woods. 494 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 2: I partied at the clubs in Manhattan instead. 495 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 3: But you know, I, yeah, wish I had worked a 496 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 3: little harder. I wish I had taken myself a little 497 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 3: bit more. 498 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 2: Seriously. 499 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 3: It's just it's it's the opposite of whatever you did, really. 500 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: Exactly, and that's that's not a sign of like that 501 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: it turned out okay, right, yeah, exactly if you hadn't 502 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: worked hard and like had partied in the clubs in Manhattan. 503 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: But it all went badly for you, Like you wouldn't 504 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: be saying like I probably should have you. You'd either 505 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: be like constructing a mental castle around why it actually 506 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: turned out right, or you'd just be like devastated, but 507 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: it worked out for you for me right. 508 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 2: Like Herope for me right if it has not, well, yeah. 509 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: Sixteen year old Tam should have like chilled out and 510 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: like I don't know, like you know, stolen beer from 511 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: somebody's garage. 512 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 2: Or something like, yes, sixteen years. 513 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: I probably did. I probably kept out a good path 514 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: that it probably helped. But like you know, you know, 515 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: that's the luxury that we have now. 516 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 2: I love it. 517 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 3: We're gonna take a quick break and be right back 518 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 3: on the Carol Marcowitch Show. 519 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: Well, I love this conversation. You are awesome. 520 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 3: Really, I feel like I got to know you leave 521 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 3: us here with your best tip for my listeners on 522 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,719 Speaker 3: how they can improve their lives. 523 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: No drink water. I don't have good. 524 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 3: Probably you know again, it doesn't have to be like, 525 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 3: you know, some deep advice. 526 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 2: I would say. 527 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 3: One of the most popular pieces of advice on the 528 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 3: show is Buck Sexton and my very first episode said 529 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 3: read before bed, and so many people refer to it 530 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 3: when they when they messaged me, they say, oh, I 531 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 3: started reading before bed and it's gotten so good. 532 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 2: Drink more water. 533 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: I like it, honestly, that's I do. I have a 534 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 1: drink more water, drinking water, big on hydration. But here's 535 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: my actual answer, which is, uh, if you make coffee 536 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: at home, which probably should set your coffee up the 537 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: night before, set it up the night before. 538 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 2: I don't do that, but I always think I should set. 539 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: It up the night before. It's way easier. It's even 540 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: better if you don't have a grinder. Get the grinder. 541 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: That'll incentivize you to do it, because like you don't 542 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: want the loud noise in the morning, you do it 543 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: at night. You set it up. There's nothing better than 544 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: just tumbling downstairs and flicking the switch on. This is 545 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 1: something that my wife and I learned so smart. Yeah, 546 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: one of our very best friend's parents. That was like 547 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: their advice to us when we got married, and that's 548 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: what they to this day still do. And like when 549 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: we stay in their house, last person to go to 550 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: bed has to set the coffee up for the morning after. 551 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 1: And it is an absolute game changer. Even though really, yeah, 552 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: six months pregnant. She's not drinking coffee, but I still 553 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: like there are some days where I think I can 554 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: say I. 555 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 3: Drank coffee the whole way through three pregnancies, like you 556 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 3: worried about it. 557 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: This is more honor she last time she did. This 558 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 1: time she didn't. 559 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you see which We'll see which kids are smarter. 560 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: Set your coffee up the night before. 561 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 3: It's I've gotten really into coffee. To buck Sexton for 562 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 3: a minute, but they have a brand of Crocket coffee. 563 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 3: I was never a big coffee drinker. This is totally 564 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 3: not sponsored, by the way, but like, I've gotten super 565 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 3: into their Crocket coffee and I'm going to start setting 566 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 3: it before bed. 567 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,479 Speaker 2: I'm in my coffee machine. 568 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to try that out. I'm I'm in the 569 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: new coffee brands. We've sort of been like grabbing Duncan 570 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: when I go to Duncan to get a cold brew 571 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 1: and it's just like it's fun. 572 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 3: Really, Crockett's been life changing. Again, I'm not sponsored, totally, 573 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 3: just believe in it. 574 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: So all right, I'm gonna buy Crockett. You start setting 575 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: it up the night before and come on, we can 576 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: circle back and see how it turned out. For both 577 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: of us. 578 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 2: We're gonna have to come on after you publish your. 579 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: Healthcare books, so maybe before that. 580 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming on. He is Tim Brice, 581 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 2: check him out as Daily Wire. 582 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Tim, Thanks Carol,