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Speaker 1: Dan Hansis, I got heroes, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sesssler and

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Speaker 1: one of the busiest men in the building right now

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Speaker 1: at least front facing Patrick Clayban. Thanks Dan, I think

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Speaker 1: rude like legitimately busy. You've been here every day anchoring

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Speaker 1: like from a Jets angle, Dan, that I was here

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Speaker 1: just refreshing my Twitter feed. You want to be there

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Speaker 1: means to go get all the furniture. But like you've

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Speaker 1: never done this before, and so you better have the

428
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Speaker 1: right people around you to make sure you don't buy

429
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Speaker 1: like that's got all matched mark speaking from experience, Well,

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Speaker 1: I definitely am not. I can promise you that. I

431
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Speaker 1: would just say this, like like I don't think it's

432
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Speaker 1: a great free agency group this like like do you

433
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Speaker 1: have to go spend all this money just because you

434
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Speaker 1: have it? I don't like when like I feel like

435
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Speaker 1: the Dolphins have done that four or five times, but

436
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Speaker 1: like the Bears have it, they have to do. But essentially,

437
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Speaker 1: if you don't use this offseason draft and everything else

438
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Speaker 1: to surround like you're a quarterback with the best, then

439
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Speaker 1: you've totally failed. They can do it, they will do it.

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Speaker 1: But like there, for instance, the wide receivers in this

441
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Speaker 1: that's where I start. I mean, you have you have

442
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Speaker 1: to build everywhere. Obviously you can go. You could space

443
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Speaker 1: it out if you want and go a little bit here,

444
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Speaker 1: a little bit there, but go get them some weapons,

445
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Speaker 1: build up the line if you because they do, you

446
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Speaker 1: are they one hundred percent. Do they know Justin Fields

447
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Speaker 1: is their future and a star. I think he can

448
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Speaker 1: be give him the guys, don't waste his rookie contract

449
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Speaker 1: and be going into next offseason be like we need

450
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Speaker 1: to get this guy some weapons. I think that's a

451
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Speaker 1: place to be aggressive building up. Do you think that

452
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Speaker 1: they actually do think that about him? When all the

453
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Speaker 1: chatter early Alma was like, we've sat him down, we

454
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Speaker 1: talked to him like, you know, here's the process we're

455
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Speaker 1: gonna see there's a quarterback with like better that's how

456
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Speaker 1: you talk about Patrick Mahomes. No, but there's we've seen

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Speaker 1: enough to know that there's a reasonable expectation that they

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Speaker 1: should try. Right, we can't run out a roster where

459
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Speaker 1: Equanimius Saint Brown is going to be your best receiving option. Again,

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody wants to see that. So they

461
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Speaker 1: don't have to do like, hey, Nuke and Odell or

462
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Speaker 1: everybody's coming to Chicago. I don't think it's necessarily that.

463
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Speaker 1: But give us something serviceable to where it's not glaring

464
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Speaker 1: that there's an inadequacy on so many different parts of

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Speaker 1: the roster. Right, Eberflus kind of skated on how many

466
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Speaker 1: games they lost at a Row even though he's a

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Speaker 1: defensive coach there. You've lost relentlessly. It's terrible, the worst

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Speaker 1: season in their history. Right. You mentioned that that they

469
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Speaker 1: need everything, and I guess i'd push back on you

470
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Speaker 1: don't want to spend bad money in terms of guarantees

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Speaker 1: into like year three and four. But most teams don't

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Speaker 1: do that anymore. Teams are smarter about Okay, the guarantees

473
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Speaker 1: are going to be for two years, and so if

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Speaker 1: that's the case, I'd overpay a little for a Zach Allen,

475
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Speaker 1: who I think would fit well for a Jacoby Myers,

476
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Speaker 1: because Jacoby Myers isn't a number one, but you need

477
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Speaker 1: to get a two or a three, just to start

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Speaker 1: filling out that group a little jaguary when they did,

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Speaker 1: all right, I like that you thought about it. They'll

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Speaker 1: take I'll take out the dart. I'll let the poison

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Speaker 1: course through me and be like I earned that right

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Speaker 1: through the ear lobe pierced. Now he's a little bit left.

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Speaker 1: Oh thanks, well, now now you got too much in

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Speaker 1: the system. All right. The Detroit Lions, Greg Rosenthal lads,

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Speaker 1: push forward. It's Lions time, baby. I mean, they've got

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Speaker 1: a decent amount of cap space. I that I think

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Speaker 1: it's the time in their development to make a couple

488
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Speaker 1: of big splashes, maybe just one in free agency. And

489
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Speaker 1: they seemed to me like a strong candid to go

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Speaker 1: get Javon Hargrave. They spent money on Michael Brockers didn't

491
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Speaker 1: work out. They spent their first two picks in the

492
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Speaker 1: Dan Campbell era on defensive tackles. One really worked a

493
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Speaker 1: Lee McNeil, the other didn't. LEVI onwuz Rique, and I

494
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Speaker 1: think Javon Hargrave is like a logical guy there. I

495
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Speaker 1: order James Bradbury. They certainly could use a cornerback, but

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Speaker 1: I think the Lions want to build their lines first.

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Speaker 1: That's just like who they are. And I think this

498
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Speaker 1: is like push time, and it's time to start swimming

499
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Speaker 1: in the deep free agent pools. Let's go. I think

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Speaker 1: everyone thought this was very special. Why did not even speak?

501
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Speaker 1: Obviously that was that was coming. Grave is very proud

502
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Speaker 1: of himself. I literally have no remembering, no member what

503
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Speaker 1: I was going to say at this point. This is

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Speaker 1: every Detroit Lions conversation ever. I hope they bring back

505
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Speaker 1: Jamal Williams. He's our friend, you know, they kept their

506
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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. They get them for one more year. Ben Johnson, Um,

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Speaker 1: I do I do worry about It makes sense to

508
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Speaker 1: build up the defense, Right Is that offense going to

509
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Speaker 1: be as good next year as it was in twenty two? Like?

510
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Speaker 1: Is that sustainable? We are we confident that that's going

511
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Speaker 1: to be the same, like major part of their attack?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Probably not, But if they're seventy five

513
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Speaker 1: percent as good and the defense is fifty percent better,

514
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Speaker 1: but that would be nice. I think I think they

515
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Speaker 1: would take that for sure. Yeah, that's a playoff team.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think everyone thought they were going to

517
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Speaker 1: get a quarterback this offseason, not expecting golf to be

518
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Speaker 1: to play at the level he did. Golf was forget

519
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Speaker 1: the name. Golf played really well for them and kept

520
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Speaker 1: the mistakes to a minimum and didn't have a thousand

521
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Speaker 1: yards stare we've seen in the past. Do you do

522
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Speaker 1: you trust though? Do you not go get a quarterback?

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Speaker 1: Do you not? Do you just look look past that

524
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Speaker 1: and say we're good with golf. I just the thing

525
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Speaker 1: about it is like year after year or you're gonna

526
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Speaker 1: get that version of them, but you're not going to

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Speaker 1: get in a reagent veteran. I think think they're talking

528
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Speaker 1: about the sixth pick and sick in the draft. I

529
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Speaker 1: think I think they're absolutely in the quarterback market with that.

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Speaker 1: I think it's smart though, Like you can say, do

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Speaker 1: you think depending on how the board shakes out, or

532
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Speaker 1: maybe going up and getting one of the guys like

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Speaker 1: competing with the indianapolis Is and the Texans of the world,

534
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Speaker 1: that would send a rough message to golf. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think so. I think if they're thinking quarterback, then

536
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Speaker 1: if they think moving from six to three gets it done,

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Speaker 1: that the price would be worth it. Yeah, be huge.

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Speaker 1: I mean Anthony Richardson with Ben Johnson, that seems like fun. Well,

539
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Speaker 1: they kind of fit the Lamar Jackson thing for me too.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, they're a power team that

541
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Speaker 1: wants to run. Lamar would fit great. But it's like,

542
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Speaker 1: apparently no one is going to be doing that for

543
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Speaker 1: a while. They do have two first round picks in

544
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Speaker 1: the next couple of years twenty million dollars the Green

545
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Speaker 1: Bay Packers, Mark Sessler, So I was looking at this

546
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 1: like Brett Farve took his first snap for the Packers

547
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Speaker 1: on September thirteenth, nineteen ninety two. That is eleven thousand,

548
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Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty four days ago. Aaron Rodgers made

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Speaker 1: his first start for Green Bay on September eighth, two

550
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Speaker 1: thousand and eight, five thousand, two hundred and ninety five

551
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Speaker 1: days ago. This entire time, it has been quarterback, easy

552
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Speaker 1: Street for this fan base. We know that, and that's

553
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Speaker 1: not their fault. I'm not trying to take the fans down,

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Speaker 1: But there are thirty year old Packers fans. I mean,

555
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Speaker 1: there are like four year old Packers fans forty five

556
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: years old that have no conscious memory of anything other

557
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Speaker 1: than golden play from that position. So this is the thing.

558
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Speaker 1: I think, you now come to a totally beautiful child.

559
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Speaker 1: Well you know at the point that the presumed starter.

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Speaker 1: But I'd say, barring some snooze fest Rogers returning to

561
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Speaker 1: Green Bay after all this drama like it is, we

562
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Speaker 1: rip into the great unknown now and it is a

563
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: total void, a wilderness, a Jordan Love shaped unknown future.

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Speaker 1: And I am more excited about the Green Bay then

565
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: I've ever been on this show, because it's so different

566
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Speaker 1: than it ever was before. And I think if you're

567
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Speaker 1: a Packers fan, you get on board with this because

568
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: it's like, you know what it is, time to move

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Speaker 1: on from Aaron Rodgers, even if he's better than Jordan Loved.

570
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Speaker 1: Right now, see what you have and do it and

571
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Speaker 1: go for it. Why have you always wanted Packers fans

572
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: to not have good quarterback play? Because the number one

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Speaker 1: I think they have a reason to be frustrated with

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Speaker 1: You don't know the answer to that. I guess they're

575
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Speaker 1: not getting the full, well rounded experience of a fan

576
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Speaker 1: if you've had those quarterbacks. I'm not saying they should.

577
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Speaker 1: They probably can say, well, we should have won five

578
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Speaker 1: more Super Bowls too. Fair Well, they get credited also

579
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Speaker 1: for properly like targeting those two players, and they enjoyed

580
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Speaker 1: the spoils of it, even if it only produced two titles,

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Speaker 1: that's two more than the Jets, a lot of fun moments,

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Speaker 1: irrelevancy the whole time. I'm curious with the Roger situation

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Speaker 1: if like, where is Laflora on this, Like we know

584
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Speaker 1: it seems like Gouda Kuntz is probably ready and he's

585
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Speaker 1: got a guy like is La Flour pissed behind the

586
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Speaker 1: scenes that he could still have Aaron Rodgers on his

587
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Speaker 1: team but instead now is forced to roll the dice

588
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Speaker 1: with Jordan Love, who I understand he looked good at

589
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Speaker 1: times last season, but overall hadn't been blown the doors

590
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Speaker 1: off people development wise. I think they with the franchise

591
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: and including the fan base, there's just so much experience

592
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Speaker 1: around this exact scenario, especially with Aaron going through last year.

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Speaker 1: We talked to Leroy Butler on Now earlier today, Well

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Speaker 1: you know, wow, it's it's an apparatus and um, and

595
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: it helps us sometimes. And he said he was going

596
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: to break Jets fans hearts either way. He says he's

597
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: either going to go there and it's not gonna work,

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Speaker 1: or he's gonna stay in Green Bass If if Jordan's

599
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Speaker 1: Love was ready, he said, yes, he's ready for Jordan.

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Speaker 1: He said, there's not a There wasn't a third options

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Speaker 1: suck or stay at the Packers, but I'd probably be great.

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Speaker 1: I would have feeling is there like everybody's ready to

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Speaker 1: move on and maybe like Marcus saying, you know, they

604
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Speaker 1: need to experience, they need to see the immune system

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00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: boost of being sick for a little bit. Um, I

606
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: think they've done. Um. Can we put Leroy Butler on

607
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: our band list for this podcast? Just add him to

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Speaker 1: the it's in the Hall of Fame, the never list.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's we got the Vikings, Patrick Claybon. Let

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Speaker 1: we get it. So the Vikings had an incredible offense

611
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Speaker 1: last year. Is one of my favorite weird stats that

612
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Speaker 1: the Vikings were bottom ten in terms of turning the

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Speaker 1: ball over but still had a top ten offense. There

614
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Speaker 1: were number seven in total offense. Kirking Company, we're doing

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Speaker 1: things that were just so many problems on the defensive

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Speaker 1: side of the ball. Incomes Brian Flores. He you know,

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Speaker 1: there's the typical answer when somebody's like an introductory news conference,

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Speaker 1: Hey four three three four, Hey waffle, and he's like,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna but it's it's three to four. So, like,

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Speaker 1: my question with regards to the Vikings is how much

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Speaker 1: are they going to spend in free agency to try

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Speaker 1: to make this defense capable of winning right now? I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna be that much, because I think

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00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: their cap issues are real enough. They're certainly gonna open

625
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Speaker 1: up room. We've heard Adam feeling it's gonna get cut.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's Harrison Smith. I think it's Quessey time. I

627
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Speaker 1: don't know if any GM has a tougher job than

628
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: quesse Adopo Menza this offseason. You kind of they kind

629
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Speaker 1: of remind me of the Raiders in the NFC in

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Speaker 1: the sense that, like the expectations are gonna be high,

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00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: but man, they have almost no areas on the team

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Speaker 1: where you couldn't see them turning it over, like left tackle,

633
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Speaker 1: Like the tackle situation looks pretty good. And other than that,

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Speaker 1: like including Kirk Cousins or do you extend him out

635
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: another year because if you don't, his number is very high. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean they've eighteen million, they're in the red with

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Speaker 1: effective cap space, so the feeling thing feels imminent other changes,

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Speaker 1: So it's a tough building situation. And I go along

639
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: it's Kevin O'Connell too, because Kevin O'Connell like by all

640
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: accounts good first season, Like it felt different than the

641
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: Zimmer Vikings teams, and a lot of tall, good looking

642
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: former quarterback so that's probably part of the deal. But like,

643
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: I mean, so much went right at the end of

644
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: games for them, or the way that they all these

645
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: metrics that you know the falloff is coming. But on

646
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: top of it, to your point, Patrick Click, it's like

647
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: they actually have holes and they're missing things. I do

648
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: think that Brian Flores, though, is going to show once again.

649
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: I think he's an awesome coach, and I think that

650
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: defense will will obvious how they can't be worse, but

651
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a Brian Flores esque version and that's

652
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: going to be a boost for them, and maybe the

653
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: offense doesn't have to do everything at the end of games.

654
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: Better coaching, better players, you'll get better there, right that

655
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: the one Dalbin Cook hasn't really been talked about on

656
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: the show much, but he according to Kevin Seaford at ESPN,

657
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: if he wasn't having shoulder surgery, he would be cut

658
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: most likely, So that kind of tells you a little

659
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: bit about maybe where he's at in his career. This

660
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: appoint would also again Minnesota and the salary cap and

661
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: how they're trying to give the roster a little bit

662
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: more balanced. He if he gets cut and then fails

663
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: a physical, they owe him an extra two million dollars,

664
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: so that's apps keeping him on the roster. Alexander Madison

665
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: is backup, is a free agent who I think would

666
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: be a nice pickup for some team, maybe as a

667
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 1: guy or a starter. But yeah, A lot of starters

668
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: are free agents, Dalvin, Tomlinson, Patrick Peterson, Chandon Sullivan, Garrett Bradbury.

669
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: It's a lot. I think Dalvin's a must. What do

670
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: they go? What do you think Dalvin's a must? Oh?

671
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: Are we gonna get slow trigger figure? It's all over there. Um,

672
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: he's a must. What to bring back? Just on the

673
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 1: defensive one. Sorry, I'm losing consciousness. Sorry, buddy, I really

674
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: needed to know. I'm sorry. Wakes up in the middle

675
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 1: of the NFCS segment. Oh yeah, there's multiple delvens. I

676
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 1: just realized though. All right, we are going to take

677
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: a break and then tackle. Yes, the NFC South, all right,

678
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: we're back. Let us head to give me a little

679
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 1: air horn, just to get some juice into the NFC

680
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: South's juice. It up the Atlanta Falcons. It doesn't. And

681
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: mister Clay bun as Lamar's top stand. Please make it

682
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: make sense to me that they have to if this

683
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: is actually a real thing, they have to change their

684
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: minds and go after Lamar Jackson. If the report is true.

685
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 1: They didn't need to look in the mirror. Home Depot

686
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: the everyone, every Home Depot employee needs to look in

687
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: the mirror because Lamar Jackson on the Falcons we went

688
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: over the other day and makes so much sense. I

689
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 1: also want to point out that Arthur Smith is entering

690
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: his third season, and this is how the NFL typically works.

691
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: You get like three years to make the playoffs and

692
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: then the owner typically is like, well, we're gonna move on.

693
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 1: So understanding there should be some urgency in that building

694
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: at this point, like somebody's gonna make a push here,

695
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: because I just just like with Sam Howell, no disrespect,

696
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: but you're gonna really in year three years turned to

697
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: Desmond Rider on a math small sample size and be like,

698
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 1: we're rolling with this kid. I think the most charitable

699
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: reading is subterfuge, as if to say, hey, other teams,

700
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: we're not interested in Lamar. Please the offer sheet that

701
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: you send him doesn't need to be all that because

702
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 1: we're not going to submit one. And then March fifteenth

703
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: rolls around and the folks and Flowery Branch give Lamar

704
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: an offer sheet that he wants. That that's the most

705
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: charitable reading. So I think that's the case. I think

706
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: that could be the case for one of these teams,

707
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 1: but again, it's a longer timeline. March fifteenth is when

708
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: this business can start. And we heard some reports, you know,

709
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: agents saying, look, if we were Lamar's agent, we'd be

710
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: tampering the hell out of this. It's like, okay, coach,

711
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: put me in fourth quarter, a little one state, but

712
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: the rules are technically they wouldn't be able to do

713
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: anything until the fifteenth. I I my conspiracy theory was

714
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: that they are going after Ryan. Tannehill talked about that

715
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: because they need to push that. To Dan's point, it's

716
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: the third year for Arthur Smith. They have sixty two

717
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: million dollars in campus space. They took all that pain

718
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 1: from Matt Ryan a year ago. I think their candidates

719
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: for some of the biggest names in free agency, liking

720
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: Orlando Brown, although that actually that wouldn't make sense. Who

721
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: was I thinking? Javon Hargrave could certainly make sense, like

722
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: a Zach Allen. Their defense needs a lot of help.

723
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 1: I would say one thing like looking at the roster,

724
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: because Drake London, outside of some weird drops and fumbles,

725
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: like a really good wide receiver. Beyond that, you have

726
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: four guys on the roster, Rashaan Rashaun, Henry, Frank Darby,

727
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: Josh Allie and Jared Bernhardt who combined for one catch

728
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: last year. And we don't know what Kyle Pitts is

729
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,240
Speaker 1: at this point, to be honest, and so Ryan Tannehill

730
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: can't go from a Bearcuboard Titans team to a Falcon's

731
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: team with less and less, you're gonna have to use

732
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: that money. They have the number eight pick. Maybe the

733
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: quarterback comes there too. By the way, let's see if

734
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: Terry fontedou we haven't really heard much of Terry Fontedo

735
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, has just been tearing things down.

736
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: Now it's time to show up. It's been a tough

737
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 1: so far a decade for Terry's, Like they just don't

738
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: seem to have a lot of pop. Maybe Fonto could

739
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: just bratchhat losing all Moneys the team on his back,

740
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: right now, that's fair, that's fair outlier, all right? Moving

741
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: on the Carolina Panthers with Greg Rosenthal, Well, there they

742
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 1: are the team that I think is lying about Lamar

743
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: or at least that's the most likely. And even the

744
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 1: report about lying the hardest, like they even the report

745
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: about the Panthers was like they were don't look for

746
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: them too or it's not likely they're not expected to,

747
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 1: and I think they could be a team that would

748
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: wait out the market because I don't think this roster's

749
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,439
Speaker 1: that bad. Like they need a few wide receivers. Who

750
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: doesn't I feel like half the league needs a couple

751
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: wide receivers, which is why the few ones available in

752
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: free agency, and guys like DeAndre Hopkins who thinks he'll

753
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: he'll go for a second round pick, like, they'll all move.

754
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: But this is not a bad looking team. I'm curious

755
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 1: to see if they cut Shack Thompson, who's been there

756
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: for a long time. They don't really need to, but

757
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 1: that would kind of be like, hey, we're the new regime.

758
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: It doesn't quite make sense to keep him. I mean,

759
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: Frank Reich cannot carry over the cult situation where you

760
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: go into the season with a total question mark at quarterback.

761
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: There's got to be a plan here. I think there

762
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: are a huge candidate to move up if they fall

763
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: in love with someone. There's a bunch of teams they're

764
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: gonna move up because I think the quarterback rush is

765
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: gonna happen between one and five, one and six right away.

766
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna wait on that. You gotta

767
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: get a guy in between, so it'll be telling which

768
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: guy or which type of guy that yet Jacobe per

769
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: sect could make sense. He was with Frank Reik before.

770
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: It was a fun team to watch down the stretch.

771
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: The Steve Wilkes edition of the DGAF Panthers that really

772
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: just didn't seem to care about you or your aspirations.

773
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: They ran all over the Lions in that game where

774
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: the Lions really had a shot to get into the

775
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 1: playoffs and they just could do nothing about the Carolina Panthers.

776
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: And sorry, I think like Sam Darnold showed a lot

777
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: like as Sam kind of starts to settle into that

778
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: this is me. I'm a backup and I could be

779
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: pretty good or I could come in and be a good,

780
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: good looking starter. I think maybe there's a shot that

781
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: Sam comes back. Got another that feels very suspicious to me.

782
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: What a moment, It's it's great and we're here now,

783
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: bottle service fantastic. I will say, as much as I

784
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: love Sam Darnald that uh, it's been what was Cam's

785
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: last kind of big year, like twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, Yeah,

786
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: there was that playoff game against the Saints, where before

787
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: the shoulder completely fell off, were ca Yeah, they Um,

788
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 1: they've been in the wilderness for a little while here.

789
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: And if it was if it was somebody in house,

790
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: it was, if it was darn Old, if it was

791
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: Jake Brisket. Like if I'm a Panthers van and I

792
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: agree with you like that, there's a reason they somehow

793
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: got to seven wins despite the Baker and Darnald. Their

794
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: line plays pretty good on both sides. They if they

795
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: kind of get aggressive and get someone exciting at quarterback.

796
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: I think, as much as I love Sam Darnald, um

797
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 1: that perhaps that's the way to go, like make a splashing.

798
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: But the seven wins is kind of annoying that it

799
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: puts them outside that premium draft pick position. And then

800
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: then do we want to you know, trade up the

801
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: board and give up assets. That's a decision they needs.

802
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: I mean, So David Tepper, who you know has not gone,

803
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 1: not succeeded, but gone after big names off season after offseason,

804
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: suddenly sits pat with someone on the roster right now.

805
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Maybe he's been hurt too many times.

806
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: I feel bad for him. That's the case. Lazy gunman

807
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: just sort of like after the fact, takes the guy

808
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: out by the way for the listeners. He's like a

809
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: grassy North smoking a joint. I totally narked on Mark

810
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: there and got him shot. I don't know why. I

811
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: don't know it was coming anyway. And the laziness is

812
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: just like I have to line up. I gotta make

813
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: sure I'm hitting the right person. I don't want to

814
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 1: just like recklessly into the studio, back into the left.

815
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: There it is okay the Saints, Mark, I mean my feeling, no,

816
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: I just like it's gonna be your Pelicans. That's just

817
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: like where I was, just like my writing this out

818
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: thinking about them, Like my feeling about them is that

819
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: they just sort of we talked for the with Derek Carlo.

820
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: They sort of just are right now. Um. And I

821
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: was trying to figure out, like why why I feel

822
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: that way about them, because I really have liked the

823
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: Saints in general for a long time, and I think

824
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: it's part of last season, Like the most exciting thing

825
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 1: that they produced was that that it got like the

826
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: metrics community into a lather over Andy Dalton, which is

827
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: a weird thing to be like your apex of a campaign. Um,

828
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: And like Dennis Allen's I thought Blue Ribbon was essentially

829
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: nobody was excited about Daltons throughout it, but doing like

830
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: QBA next like every week I look at like the

831
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: it's like Andy Dalton just kept rocketing up the board

832
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: as if he's not why a tittle? I get it,

833
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: but like um on your own index, No, you mean

834
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 1: he did? I put him lower than the metrics community

835
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: more like why a titty? Hey, what was that about?

836
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: It really hash and deep into the bloodstream. It's now

837
00:42:55,600 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: it's this is now becoming an intervention twy bro. But

838
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: I know I know what annoys me about them, and

839
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: I think it's like I don't know him personally, but

840
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: it's like Dennis Allen and you mentioned this, like the

841
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: Chauncey Gardner Johnson split, I think like that would not

842
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: have happened with Sean Payton in there. And it's like

843
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: Dennis Allen is like this active walking advertisement for the

844
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: value of Sean Payton and it's like, yes, they they

845
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 1: I think Derek Carr will be fine if you get

846
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: the best version of them and they can win this

847
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: idiotic division, but it's hard to project them mean much more. Well, no,

848
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 1: because it's like I actually am more more annoyed for

849
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: But Saints are a great fan base. Like it's like

850
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 1: when they're fun, the league is better and they've been

851
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 1: less fun and it's like they're taking the juice out

852
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: part by part. I don't like it. They they have

853
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: potentially a ton of big moves to make, Like Michael

854
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 1: Thomas said on Twitter, he was excited about Derek Carr,

855
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: but he's expected to be released. Jarvis Landry like Cameron Jordan,

856
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,720
Speaker 1: I think's gonna be there, But they don't have anyone

857
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: at defensive tackle. Marcus Davenport's a free agent. Like, I

858
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: think they have a lot to move, is left to make.

859
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: They're gonna be one of the most active teams. Is

860
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 1: what is going on? We know Kamara is facing potential

861
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: um discipline. He could be a sneaky trade kid. Is

862
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 1: he is he definitely part of their team? Is he's safe?

863
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: Cut wise? Like where are we at at Kamara? His

864
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: contracts fine, so it would only be I think if

865
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: they traded him and would be complicated. I'd love to

866
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: see them go get like Kareem Hunt and like just

867
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: let Alvin Kamara. We'll see what happens with him. But like,

868
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: don't just restock it running back? Did you think that

869
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt had um? I think no. I think he

870
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 1: can still play well. Go back to that Carolina game

871
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: in Week one. He didn't looked done to me. I

872
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: think his role was limited. They couldn't use a backup

873
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: running back and there's a lot of options out there.

874
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: Rashad Penny's out there. How about Jeff Wilson late round

875
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: draft picks Barkley, He's a franchise tagged I was gonna

876
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: say Mark could been sim What if he simply refuses

877
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 1: to play for the Giants and they end up trading him.

878
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: That can happen. There could be a tag and trade.

879
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: Forget that talking refusing to return to the Giants. Absolutely

880
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: guy because he doesn't want to play on the because

881
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,959
Speaker 1: things like all seem peachy now, but then it gets ugly.

882
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: He doesn't. He wanted a long term deal, he didn't

883
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: get one, and the Giants are forced to trade him

884
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: and he winds up with the Saints in like week

885
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: one or week two. Sourcing on this, I'm just saying

886
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: it's a potential like life thread because because we were

887
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 1: stop talking about because the potential of running backs has

888
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: been artificially lowered by the existence of the franchise tag

889
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: more than any other position, because turns back, he's a quarterback.

890
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: Remember it's he already turned out a deal for more years,

891
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: so he's just sit there and take a one year.

892
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: Maybe he'll push back on that's very important fair point.

893
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: If he was a guy to get like a two,

894
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: he's not playing another down two for twenty seven type deal,

895
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: which Garafolo is hinting at that it was over a

896
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: thirteen million a year. I think I think he gets

897
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: his long term deal from the Giants. Not well, wait,

898
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: what's the next barrier? Play like player freedom and power

899
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: is not just playing on the tag saying forget this nonsense.

900
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: If you're gonna undervalue my tag a tight end or

901
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: a running back. It didn't work out for the last guy.

902
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: But wait, did not true the ten and all the

903
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: things you're doing here is Patrick. So clearly there is

904
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: a void, not just in Tampa but in the entire

905
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: NFL as we all have to solemnly accept the existence

906
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: of this fact that he's gone. He's not coming back.

907
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 1: He's firing back that you sho people on Twitter saying

908
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: that it's not happening, and so this team was positioned

909
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: to still contend. They were holding the things together with

910
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: duct tape. They brought everybody back and it didn't work out.

911
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: Now that they're hemorrhaging guys who had success, Leonard Fournette

912
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: is gone, we wonder what the future is going to

913
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: be like. Dam was entertaining the options of maybe Mike

914
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: Evans heading to Dallas. But let's say, okay, David's hitting

915
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: free agents great to Let's say they keep everybody. Are

916
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: there enough pieces remaining from the Brady era to bring

917
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: in a veteran quarterback and contend in twenty twenty three?

918
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 1: Can I ask a question, yes, when you watch the Bucks,

919
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: did you feel like Brady was He wasn't no longer

920
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: elevating them, but was he making them worse? Holding them back?

921
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: Because if he was more just like a middle of

922
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: the road guy, which is kind of how I saw

923
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: him in his final season, then I would say you

924
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 1: should break it down because it's just a kind of

925
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: a team in purgatory. But if this team still has upside, okay,

926
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: let's do it. But I don't think they are. I

927
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: think they it might be time. Some of these guys

928
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: are getting older. Now they're a rough spot this offseason,

929
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: in particular, they're fifty two million in the red, and

930
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: part of that is that they took this thirty five

931
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: million dollar Tom Brady dead cap hit and so trying

932
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: to keep like Jamel Dean Lavan to David's gonna go

933
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 1: make money somewhere else. But it's like, I'm not sure

934
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: it's as easy this time around, because remember, like the

935
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: phenomenon with the Super Bowl winning Bucks was like no

936
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: one was a free agent, everyone was returning, and that

937
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: happened almost two years in a row. And it's like

938
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: they keep talking up Kyle Trask, which it just sounds

939
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: like they're trying to sell us on a this is

940
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: a year where we're gonna we gave you Tom Brady,

941
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 1: now you're getting Kyle Trask. We'll see how much fun that.

942
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: I hate it for Todd Bowles. Their defense was pretty

943
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: mediocre last year. I had to answer your question, Battrick.

944
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 1: I think the answer is no, I don't think they can.

945
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: I think they're in a really difficult I think they

946
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: are who everyone thinks the Rams are, which is that

947
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 1: they sold everything to have this push and now it's

948
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,439
Speaker 1: truly gone and it's blown up and there's not gonna

949
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: be much left in the end, even though there's some

950
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: decent players there. Now, I don't think it's going to

951
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: add up to much, and they're gonna be gone by

952
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: the next time. The Bucks are good. I think they

953
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: are like that that team people think the Rams are.

954
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 1: If I could make a case to Dan's point, Tom

955
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: and the offense did not look good. The thing about

956
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: Tom is this historical world breaking level of consistency when

957
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: Tom doesn't have that, considering the fact that pushing close

958
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: to fifty at a certain point during the season, like

959
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: it just it wasn't that Tom was necessarily bad and

960
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: dragging the team down, but an inconsistent Tom Brady is

961
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: just not Tom Brady. And so maybe there's aspects of

962
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two Bucks that we kind of missed

963
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: because things were so bad. A lot of free agents.

964
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: All Right, we gotta take a break and then we're

965
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: gonna hit the NFC West. But before that, we got

966
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 1: some breaking news rap sheet reports that Vikings Pro Bowl

967
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: pass rusher as A Darius Smith, has informed the team

968
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 1: that he wants to be released. The team has no

969
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: plans to do that. The situation remains unresolved, says Rappaport.

970
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: Then z Smith chimes in on Twitter himself, I just

971
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 1: want to say thank you to skull Nation for another

972
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: he ain't coming back for an amazing season and experience.

973
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: Thank you all my teammates coaches in the entire minute.

974
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: Son of Vikings organization, purple heart. I really like this

975
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 1: move by Smith, which is like, yes, there's all sorts

976
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: of messiness with the organization who are like spoiling for

977
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: a fight, And he's like, no, I'm gone, just like

978
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: and I'm being very pleasant about it, but I gone.

979
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 1: I guess he is. He is on track to play

980
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: for all four NFC North teams in four years. And

981
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 1: by the way, we like Brian Flores. We were just

982
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: saying he's a that's a big first step to making

983
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: that defense better because it was atrocious last year. This

984
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: is not a good first step toward that. Taken away

985
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: one of their better defensive players. Yeah, he played well

986
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 1: for them. This contract, I feel like has been haunted

987
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 1: because it was the one that he signed last year

988
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: after he backed out of the deal that was reported

989
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: for days with Baltimore, so he wasn't happy there. He

990
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 1: doesn't appear to be happy. Now. Maybe it's because he

991
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: played too well by the end of the season. He

992
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: I mean, he was on a serious role and I'm

993
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 1: too good. Right, He could get do great in free agency.

994
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: But I think the Vikings are in a weird spot here.

995
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to cut him, especially because he's throwing

996
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: a going the way party walking around the Green Bay building.

997
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: We're saying that no one was staying hello to him, right,

998
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like that moves going on here. Hey,

999
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: it's cake in the break room. I'm out because thanks

1000
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 1: for everything, all right, So there you go. Add that

1001
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: as a dendum to the Vikings talk. Get used to

1002
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: time out there, Thank you very much, productive improve We

1003
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: got one left. We didn't really take one. We just

1004
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 1: said developing news hit the drive and went along. So

1005
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: do we do? You have to use the timeout because

1006
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 1: it wasn't okay, but we but we'll finished a division.

1007
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 1: Gist of the show is that we're giving this two

1008
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: and forty eight minutes, and we take timeouts if it's

1009
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: going to go longer. That's true, you have to make

1010
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: a judgment justin but it's also usually during the three

1011
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: minute I mean, it is nebulous can I take a

1012
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: retroactive timeout so we can get some breaking news regarding Zadarious? Yes,

1013
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 1: all right, cool, second time out and boom, and I'm

1014
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: comfortable of this. It leaves us with one and back

1015
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: pocket for the final quarter of the game. I got

1016
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: Andy Reid to my left here. You know what happened

1017
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: last time he did. It's put us in a bad spots. Excited.

1018
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: I do have like a it's more obsessed with like

1019
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: clock management than everyone, So that's personal. Take them out

1020
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,399
Speaker 1: the Packers that uh I never did? Time out? Greg,

1021
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,720
Speaker 1: if you want to make it right now a window?

1022
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: Wait the time? How long are these timeouts play the

1023
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: way the best isn't the NBA. It's not a thirty

1024
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: second time out. You can take as long as I

1025
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: just I just really want the Packers to spend all

1026
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: their resources on offense and making Jordan Love look good,

1027
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: just to annoy Aaron Rodgers and souls. Bring them in

1028
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 1: first round picks, bring them in, let's Jacoby Buyers, whatever,

1029
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: Let's just get them all in Green Bay to make

1030
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: that that was even. You went back a division to

1031
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: land that one. All right, Let's take a break and

1032
00:52:54,719 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: then close things out, all right, we're back. Let's move

1033
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 1: to the NFC West, the Arizona Cardinals. Part of me

1034
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 1: just wants to spend three minutes talking Robbie Anderson has

1035
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: now chosen Robbie I E. Anderson. That's interesting to me,

1036
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: fascinating chosen by the Cardinals at this point though, because

1037
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: he was also cut because he did absolutely nothing for

1038
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: them after their mid season acquisition. So that's another, yet

1039
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: another spot they need to figure out. They might be

1040
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: trading new cop against might It sounds like it was

1041
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 1: even that kind of I don't know what's going on

1042
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: with the Cardinals. It's like they've already agreed to terms

1043
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: on the trade that they want to make in the future.

1044
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: Do you see that report. I don't remember seeing that

1045
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: wording before. It's like, don't you want to engage with

1046
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: a team and then figure out the terms. Maybe they'll

1047
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: give you a first round pick because and they're agreed

1048
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 1: to in invisible terms it was a second rounder. Anyway,

1049
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: There's a lot of work to be done here. JJ Watt,

1050
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: who's nobody's version of a peak JJ was still quality player.

1051
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: He led them in pass rushing, snaps and rushers. They

1052
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: got to take care of that area. You're gonna have

1053
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 1: to get new playmakers around whoever is at quarterback, and

1054
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 1: just a big, big job ahead of Jonathan Gannon and

1055
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: and a new brain trust there. I mean, if you're

1056
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: John they had to have told Jonathan Gannon. Ray had

1057
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,760
Speaker 1: to demand it like it's a freebe year, because there

1058
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: it's it is. They're in as bad a shape as

1059
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: any team in the NFC. The only thing I like

1060
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 1: it for him. What I would like a little bit

1061
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 1: is like it could show you not it's not gonna

1062
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: be Brian Dable, but maybe you can do a lot

1063
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 1: with a little and show us why you're a special

1064
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: hire versus like the Cliff Kings or anything. Was so

1065
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: toxic by the end that he disappeared to Thailand, and

1066
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: I'm not sure he's ever returned. But um Gannon, like,

1067
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: why not come in and be like, we get it.

1068
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: Everything's evil here, but I can make something out of it.

1069
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: I worry Jonathan Gannon did not show anything as like

1070
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: a schematic guy that head coach like. He didn't show

1071
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: any thing as like a schematic genius, Like that's what

1072
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: you want out of your head coach, like to provide

1073
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: some sort of advantage. He didn't show that in Philly.

1074
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: His offensive coordinators Drew Pittsing who had you know, first time,

1075
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: O see, not a lot of experience. We'll see. I

1076
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: was taken by Kelvin Beacham, who was maybe the most

1077
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: respected guy in that locker room. Was there a long

1078
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: long time saying about Kyler Murray that the one thing

1079
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: Kyler needs to do is to grow up, that like

1080
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: he thinks he can do it, and that he's very gifted,

1081
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,399
Speaker 1: but that he's not there in terms of leadership. Hearing

1082
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 1: that from Beecham specifically resonated, Dude, Kyler Murray is gonna

1083
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 1: be freaking out by about weeks six of next season.

1084
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 1: And I was able to talk to Kelvin Beacham today

1085
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 1: NFL now because there's been so much around this, there's

1086
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: always the hesitation and the tiptoeing, like Kyler needs to

1087
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: grow up, he needs to be more mature. I was like,

1088
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: what's this specific thing that Kyler has done, thank you,

1089
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: or has not done that he can improve on it?

1090
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: And he just said he could spend some more time

1091
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: with his teammates off the like that was the first place.

1092
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 1: So it's not like top Kyler's flipping tables or something.

1093
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 1: He's finished, he's clocking out and leaving. He wants them

1094
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 1: to do list less of that. M grow up, be

1095
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: a man and grow up, but like be a man.

1096
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: That's spend more time with your teammates. Be a man.

1097
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:21,760
Speaker 1: This is the ever I've ever heard. It was really

1098
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 1: that was interesting and great reporting from Patrick's. Dan went

1099
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 1: on for a while like, I didn't know interesting that

1100
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: out there? You got that in the face. No, that

1101
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 1: is that was a great follow up question Patrick. But

1102
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 1: it's like be a man. We're just going into it.

1103
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: Almost would call for another It's so intriguing that, all right,

1104
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,479
Speaker 1: let's call time out, time out there. Because if he's saying,

1105
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: because he's now on the NFL network with the great

1106
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: Clay Bon, he knows he has to be careful on

1107
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 1: some level what he says. It's but journalistically the question

1108
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: was asked, he has to answer it to me when

1109
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: somebody's and that's what he said in the interview before Patrick,

1110
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: he said, be a man like that feels a little

1111
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,760
Speaker 1: heavier than just hey, go get burgers with the guys.

1112
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 1: I think it maybe it, yeah, And it's hard to

1113
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: base things on hard knocks, but a little that you

1114
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: get from that and then just witnessing he looks like

1115
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: a guy who's does his own thing, maybe a little aloof.

1116
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: I always struggle with what does aloof mean? But he

1117
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: kind of keeps to himself and he's not bothering anyone.

1118
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: But that creates an issue when you're the quarterback. I

1119
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 1: think if you watched that Hard Knocks, like and I

1120
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: didn't see all of it, it got too depressing. But

1121
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: like the last week or two, I gave us right

1122
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: when I watched Kyler Murray though it it is just

1123
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: a different persona uh then you'd see from like a

1124
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: super plugged in pro athlete, like he's got a lot

1125
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: of other stuff going on, and like I think he is,

1126
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: he's he wants to drive his teammates like he'd get

1127
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: on them, and I kind of like his intensity. There

1128
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: are things I liked about him. He was hard. Yeah,

1129
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: when he's on him, he's hard. Only he's like a

1130
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: perfect Maybe that doesn't have vive though, when you're not

1131
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: spending the time to make the relationship. I think if

1132
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: the organization is better, then you get a better Kyler.

1133
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: It was really in shambles. You had There was even

1134
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: disagreements onto who was doing the thing in Mexico. They

1135
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: weren't even sure who who the perpetrator was. The coaching

1136
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: staff office was frankly like an embarrassment to them. I mean,

1137
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: these are the people in charge of Kyler Murray and

1138
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: so like winning is going to help everything. But I

1139
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: just wanted like a concrete thing because this has been

1140
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: two years. I think it's like, oh, well, Kyler's doing

1141
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: this and he's not doing that. It's like, well, what

1142
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: is he doing? Why is he not doing because we've

1143
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: talked about this so much, like can we put something

1144
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: concrete on it? Because at a certain point it's just like, yeah,

1145
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: this guy's a little different. He's shorter than other people.

1146
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: Are we are we doing this just because of those

1147
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: things like he likes video games and we're saying like,

1148
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: or is there something that he's actually doing. I think

1149
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: his answer was good, though, spend more good, spend more time.

1150
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: But maybe that also means not just to the players,

1151
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: but spend more time like the other big time quarterbacks do.

1152
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: In terms of which team. I mean, I think there's

1153
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: the school. He's super he's so talented, you don't move on.

1154
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 1: But like there's a global issue or a concern about

1155
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: the other aspects of Kyler Murray. He now, he is

1156
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: an incredible athlete and that's not just football. And that's

1157
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 1: why I was so excited. And Walker was excited to

1158
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: get the number one jersey again on his baseball team

1159
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 1: because he's the smallest guy on the team and they

1160
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: give it to the smallest guy and that's for Kyler Murray.

1161
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, he happens to be on

1162
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: the A's so he's got the Kyler Murray A's uniform

1163
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: number one. How about that? It for the short folks,

1164
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: Not that he knew that he does like Kyler. He

1165
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: did do it for Kyle. The smallest child should get

1166
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:39,919
Speaker 1: a single number. That's why the extra smalls are one. Yeah,

1167
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: and it goes up that way with these so is

1168
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: his favorite players. Kyler. Nobody likes him. He likes he

1169
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 1: likes that he's shorter and run. I don't think he

1170
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,919
Speaker 1: knows this year is I didn't realize that, like little

1171
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 1: leagues were organizing numbers off of Kyler Murray's non pro

1172
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: baseball career. Like I just thought it was like a

1173
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: little because they're there's a picture of Kyler in that

1174
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: Oakland A's number one too. Yeah, remember all the talk

1175
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 1: you would go back to baseball, Well he might, it's

1176
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: not that crazy. Still could happen. I guess it's a

1177
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 1: little cassy by like mid October. All right, we're out

1178
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 1: of time out la rams Greg Roseal, Okay, I've been

1179
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 1: listening to Eleven Personnel, the podcasts on the Athletic by

1180
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: our friend Jordan rod Reeg. This offseas good listen, and

1181
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: my takeaway from Jordan's takeaway, who knows a lot more

1182
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 1: in talks to the people there, is that it's really

1183
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: not them blowing it up. And less Needs spoke about

1184
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: this on Thursday. They're calling it a remodel. If they

1185
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 1: were blowing it up, Aaron Donald, Cooper Cup, Matthew Stafford

1186
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't be there. And they're making it clear we're building

1187
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 1: around these guys still, and so I think they're looking

1188
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: at this as a year they might step back a

1189
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: little and free up a lot of cap space for

1190
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. In twenty twenty four is when they'll

1191
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: feel like they really are going back for titles. But

1192
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: in the meantime, they're going to be investing in players

1193
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 1: that they think can win. Then so I think they'll

1194
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 1: be active in free and say guy like Chauncey Gardner

1195
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: Johnson I think would fit their scheme. I don't think

1196
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: they're just gonna sit back and do absolutely nothing, but

1197
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 1: they feel like they're aiming more for the middle or

1198
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 1: like the lower playoffs this year and that next year

1199
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 1: with Donald and Cup and Stafford still here, that they

1200
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 1: go after it once, so like we've done it before

1201
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: and maybe we should do it again. And the ramp

1202
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: up to this season, team slogans would be like we

1203
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 1: grate with nine and eight. That's that feels about right.

1204
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 1: Seven would be heaven. Yeah, I think that's it. But

1205
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 1: it's not like they're not the Titans or they're not

1206
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 1: the Cardinals where they're just blowing it up. They want

1207
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 1: to get back into the Winter's show, all unveiled, shot

1208
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: fired behind the glass. What happened that Titans? I just immediately,

1209
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 1: which is unfair. They were like, I hear what you're saying, Greg,

1210
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: but I mean I do want this is an LA thing.

1211
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 1: But like I'm driving around in my car listening to

1212
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 1: this like one sports radio station that's about all every

1213
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: LA team, and it's like no, like actual angst over

1214
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: what the Rams, what happened to them last season? Or

1215
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 1: what's going on now? I know that, Like there's certain

1216
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: people that are plugged in, but it's like where are

1217
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 1: the Rams fans and all this? Like I would be

1218
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 1: a little bit annoyed with what's happened over last The

1219
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 1: last season was an absolute no show, and you keep

1220
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 1: taking people away telling us, no, we're not taking a

1221
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 1: step back. I mean, if anything, it's at least a

1222
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 1: one year or two year surrender. I think it's a

1223
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 1: one last year everything went wrong, but like a lot

1224
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 1: of this stuff, like you went into the year with

1225
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 1: an offensive line that if you were they're good self scouters,

1226
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 1: like you would have known that offensive line was a disaster.

1227
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: My takeaway from less needs availability today he said that

1228
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup, Aaron Donald and Matthew Stafford were weight bearing

1229
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: walls for the franchise. But there's a wall missing there,

1230
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 1: and so what's the plan with Jalen Ramsey. It's tough

1231
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 1: for me to believe that Jalen Ramsey is to be

1232
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 1: shipped and you believe significantly that the team is going

1233
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 1: to be better because of that. Consider now that's as

1234
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 1: like as they're calling it a remodel a teardown. I'm

1235
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 1: waiting if you're getting multiple picks for Ramsey, they have

1236
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 1: a lot of holes to fill three what is it

1237
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 1: load bearing? Load bearing? Yeah, load bearing. They need to

1238
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: install a beam Dartney. Also, it'd be good if like

1239
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 1: the Fourth Wall, Sean McVeigh isn't just like, I don't

1240
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: know if I want to be a while anymore every

1241
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 1: twelve months, that's fair Seattle Seahawks Mark Sessler, Well, I mean,

1242
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 1: look at like the Rams and Cardinals over what what's

1243
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 1: happened over the last twelve months. And I think by contrast,

1244
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: because you can say whatever you want if you're the Rams,

1245
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: like the results of the results and we'll see what happens.

1246
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 1: But like the Seattle rebuild and team building vision is

1247
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: the complete contrast because they were taking this so called

1248
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 1: year away and you know it could have gotten a

1249
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 1: lot darker. They were great with nine and eight, right

1250
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 1: they were, And but also they came out of it

1251
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: with not just hey, we're gonna be nine and eight again,

1252
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: and like I think a lot's changed, Like Pete Carroll

1253
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 1: last shre at this time and previous was taking a

1254
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 1: lot of lumps in the whole Russell Wilson thing that

1255
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll was sort of shaped as this out of

1256
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 1: touch kind of guy that like, that's your raw raw

1257
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll act is kind of falling short. Like there's

1258
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 1: no more footage of John Schneider wandering around topless with

1259
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 1: a championship belt around his waist. All of that was

1260
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 1: in the deep past. And but now, after moving on

1261
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: from Russell Wilsons usually well topless. But usually usually these

1262
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 1: quarterbacks win these power struggles, and I think we kind

1263
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: of viewed that might have happened with Russell Wilson. But

1264
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 1: look who looks better than Pete Carroll. And now you've

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Speaker 1: got two first two seconds, a proven QB on an

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Speaker 1: affordable deal. You absolutely can take a shot at a

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Speaker 1: rookie quarterback and you're put You put that rookie quarterback

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Speaker 1: into a much better environment than most first round quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: could Troop could want to be in. So I'd say

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Speaker 1: say hello to the best rebuilding job in the NFC,

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Speaker 1: and maybe the rest of the division, with all their verbalization,

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Speaker 1: could take a look at what Seattle's done. Verbalization. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's what happens when you have the best draft class

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Speaker 1: along with the jets in the league or you have

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01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 1: too right, and they I mean last last year that

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01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 1: they just hit on guys that were immediate contributors, five

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Speaker 1: of them, including two starting tackles, and they have free

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01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 1: agent money to spend two. I think they could get

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Speaker 1: in the mix for some of these pass rushers defensive linemen.

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Speaker 1: It maybe bring Shack Griffin back at cornerback. They need

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Speaker 1: a cornerback. Yeah, if they hit on half of the

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01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 1: players that they hit, if they hit on a quarter

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01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 1: of the players that they hit on in twenty twenty two,

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01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 1: then they get huge boat boosts boost from this draft

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01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 1: when like, when are the Seahawks ever going to be

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01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 1: picking five again? Like in this era, it's it's not

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Speaker 1: gonna happen again. And so they could go off the

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Speaker 1: board there and maybe think about the future because I mean,

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Speaker 1: even even if it's three years with Gino, it's still

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Speaker 1: only three years. They've got so many options they could

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Speaker 1: go either way. I'm curious what where they're at with

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Speaker 1: a guy that represented the previous era of the team

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Speaker 1: where things weren't so Sonny Jamal Adams, who missed another

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01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 1: full season. Ryan Neil stepped in and did very good

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Speaker 1: work for them. He's a free agent now, like Jamal Adams,

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01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: job saved with this team is he is, He's someone

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Speaker 1: they still expect to be a major contributor because on paper,

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Speaker 1: that could be seen as another big addition for this

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Speaker 1: team if he comes back and is the Jamal of old. Right,

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01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 1: that's a great point. I think he would be difficult

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Speaker 1: to get rid of because of the contracts still, because

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01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:19,919
Speaker 1: I was thinking like they could be a Jesse Bates team,

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01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 1: and then I thought, Okay, I don't know if that

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01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 1: makes sense to pain digs a pain. He has no

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01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 1: guaranteed money after this season, but right now, like are,

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01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 1: it'd be like a twenty million dollar cap hit, dead

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01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 1: money hit. Tough, tough trade. Let's close it out with

1308
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 1: mister Claybonne and the Niners. Let's do it yet another

1309
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 1: season derailed by quarterback injury and then subsequent quarterback injury

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01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 1: and then subsequent quarterback injury. We know that they're going

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01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 1: to bring in a veteran and they'll approach the Brock

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01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 1: situation however they can. Hopefully he comes back. Hopefully he

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01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 1: goes under the knife tomorrow and everything goes goes great

1314
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 1: and he comes back. But my question is when do

1315
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 1: the Niners actually need to decide long term between Tray

1316
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 1: and Rock And why would they make that decision now?

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01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 1: Why not have them both back and just go forward

1318
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: with both on the roster. Clearly they need more than one.

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01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 1: I'm with you, like they're they're the super rare team

1320
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 1: that sold the entire farm for a quarterback. The quarterback

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01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 1: essentially never produced anything for them, and they're still the

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Speaker 1: best team in the division and arguably top two or

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Speaker 1: three in the NFC. It's like, I don't know why

1324
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 1: you'd need to do that unless there was this kind

1325
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 1: of fever pitch for Trey Lance out there and just

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01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 1: don't see that, Like what, You're not going to get

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Speaker 1: value for him and you I think it's fair to say, like,

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Speaker 1: as much as I loved brock Purtty, like we want

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01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 1: to see a little bit more and before we move

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Speaker 1: on from Trey Lance for brock Purtty, but we also

1331
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 1: need to see a lot more. I want to see

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Speaker 1: more from both of them, have them compete, and then

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Speaker 1: you make your decision. It sets up well, well is

1334
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 1: strong because one of the guys is getting reconstructive elbow surgery.

1335
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 1: But you don't need to rush brock Purty back. So

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01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 1: if he gets the surgery tomorrow, again, let's get it done.

1337
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 1: Let's move forward, and then he's on track to be

1338
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 1: ready maybe in September. Like you don't need to have

1339
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 1: him on the field week one, because I think that

1340
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 1: kind of gives you an opportunity to give Trey Lance

1341
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 1: a chance, and you give him September, but perhaps while

1342
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 1: you get Purty up to speed, and then if Lance

1343
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: is thriving as your number two overall pick, yeah, now

1344
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 1: you have a good problem because then you have a

1345
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 1: guy that played well for you last year down the

1346
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 1: stretch and this draft pick that you invested so much in.

1347
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:26,679
Speaker 1: I think it would be a mistake to to rush

1348
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 1: Purty back into the lineup just because he played so

1349
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 1: well at the end of the year that said we

1350
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 1: need We don't know what they think about Lance at

1351
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 1: this point internally in that building. I think they have

1352
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 1: other issues too that have gotten his one minute looked over.

1353
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 1: I guess they're a little thinner on the defensive line

1354
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 1: than they used to be. They used to be so

1355
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 1: deep there. Jimmy Ward's a free agent. A couple other

1356
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 1: starting offensive lineman or free agent, including Mike McGlinchey, and

1357
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 1: yet I want to use this time to talk about

1358
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 1: our old friend, one time guest, one time Tim Kawakami,

1359
01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 1: who had a report that they're not ruling out Lamar

1360
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 1: Jackson pursue and that would be the team that would

1361
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 1: blow the NFL to smithereens to go after Lamar Jackson

1362
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 1: and I it's so messy. I like it, but wow,

1363
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,720
Speaker 1: but I mean it's fun. It's a fun thought that

1364
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:17,600
Speaker 1: they're not ruling it out because like they don't have

1365
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 1: a quarterback for sure yet, and so they're a team

1366
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 1: was trying to win a Super Bowl. You could send

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01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 1: you know, Trey Lance back to Baltimore as part of

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01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 1: all that, or orban I don't know, but just the

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01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 1: fact that he thought it was worth throwing that out there. Okay,

1370
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 1: they're looking at it. I don't eat brock Purty becoming

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01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 1: a Ravens quarterback. I like brock Purty. That would be

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01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 1: tough for you. That'd be a bad beat for just

1373
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 1: like a season after season of like chop Down fan interest,

1374
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 1: it's about you, well not often um that was around

1375
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:52,680
Speaker 1: the NFC in forty eight minutes. Well done, and you

1376
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,679
Speaker 1: know you do you do the math there sixteen sixteen.

1377
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 1: It's thirty two. We went around the NFL these last

1378
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,560
Speaker 1: two episodes, so ninety six minutes. What's the name of

1379
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:04,839
Speaker 1: the show. The name of the show around the NFL? Beautiful.

1380
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 1: We did it, We went it did it. Big, big

1381
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 1: show for Patrick. You know, he was worried in the

1382
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 1: newsroom earlier this week, thought he needed a bounce back

1383
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 1: performance because he wasn't pleased with something that happened two

1384
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 1: weeks ago. A Paris should have hit Chris Rock two

1385
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 1: more times. Okay, there you go, there you go. Put

1386
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 1: that on social don't do that, Chris Rock. Yeah, well

1387
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 1: we talked a little bit about a lesson. He didn't.

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01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 1: This story needs to go away at this point. Yeahs

1389
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 1: a Sunday night. Yeah, I'm sure Jimmy Kimmel's if Chris

1390
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 1: Rock gets struck into it because I'm invested. You know,

1391
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 1: Mark is a big fan and I am now as well.

1392
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 1: What everything everywhere? You really want the film to win

1393
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:53,639
Speaker 1: a little Oscar breakdown, there's ten My first like comment

1394
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 1: would be, that's absurd. It's like a participation award. Now,

1395
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:00,640
Speaker 1: a few years ago they opened it up so that

1396
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 1: we would get more movies like Top Gun getting a

1397
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 1: Best Picture. By the way, I know it did, all right.

1398
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 1: This is it's like everyone just assumes the Top Gun sucks.

1399
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:13,560
Speaker 1: Like Top Gun, Maverick absolutely belongs to that group. I

1400
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 1: would markets for a while it was like the co

1401
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 1: favorite with everything everywhere else, but not well, I just

1402
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 1: think it's like, oh it's top Gun. It wasn't made

1403
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 1: like for you know, the nuts. Top Gun also basically

1404
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 1: saved movie theaters. Like I would argue that Tar is incredible.

1405
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 1: I love me some time. I watched taras now you

1406
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 1: see that that is a good movie. But I don't

1407
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 1: understand the last thirty minutes. It's all like a part

1408
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 1: of it. It's it's a little crazy. Yeah, absolutely, thank you.

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Speaker 1: No thing. Oh really, I'm saying the best picture. No thing.

1410
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,599
Speaker 1: It's not fine for Best Picture. But I think they

1411
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 1: listen every every film is up for best but it was.

1412
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 1: It was brutalized by critics after Crash one in two

1413
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 1: thousand for I don't know, but the shine is still

1414
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:06,799
Speaker 1: on the trophies. Speaking at trophies, why is that trophy

1415
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 1: still in the studio? Greg is done moving? What? Greg? Well,

1416
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 1: that's fair, it's time. I mean it's only been a week.

1417
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 1: It wasn't first on my Mind's got a little trophy

1418
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 1: I have yet to set up. I think, you know,

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01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 1: I got to set up the whole garage. I think

1420
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 1: I'm turning the camera the other way. We've really got

1421
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 1: to work on this, all right. Patrick's going to check

1422
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 1: the sub reddit. Oh no, he's grabbing the he's getting

1423
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 1: the locked trophy and he's greg Yeah, expedite this, okay,

1424
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 1: I will bring it home today. UM. All right, thank

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01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:46,560
Speaker 1: you everybody for listening. We will be back again this

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01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 1: week if something happens with a certain number twelve other

1427
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 1: than that, or you know, hypothetically a certain number three

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Speaker 1: three eight eight, Oh sorry, that's okay. UM. Otherwise, we'll

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01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 1: be back next week for the start of Free Agency Week.

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Speaker 1: We're planning to do a show every day Monday through Thursday. UM,

1431
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 1: so get ready for that. Keep up to date, you know,

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01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 1: just be there for us and we'll be there for you.

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01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 1: We love you all. Well, look at this beautiful shot

1434
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 1: you got to watch. Check out the YouTube stream. Listen

1435
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 1: to the audio while watching the YouTube. For the rest

1436
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 1: of the episode, Coming Front, I was told actually in

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Speaker 1: my ear to lean back because I was in covering

1438
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 1: up to the lock truppy. So all right, thank you

1439
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 1: everybody Till Monday. You know what you gotta do. Heat

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Speaker 1: the call