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Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by hard Rock bet We

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Speaker 1: show that makes the square sharper and makes the wise

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Speaker 1: guys pay attention. I am Chad Milman. I am joined

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Speaker 1: as always by my bff, my companion, my campadre, my

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Speaker 1: co host, Professional Better Simon Hunter Ello, Simon Chad.

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Speaker 2: How are we doing? Brother?

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Speaker 1: Hey? You know what's funny. The other day I was

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Speaker 1: watching something on TikTok and it was a old video

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Speaker 1: of Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell presenting at the Academy Awards,

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Speaker 1: and she said to Kurt Russell, Kurt, you are my

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Speaker 1: best friend. You are my companion, you are my compadre.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, did we steal that from them?

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Speaker 1: But I always thought we stole it from Eastbound and

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Speaker 1: so maybe Eastbounded down stole it from Kurt Russell and Goldiehan.

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Speaker 1: Bit we're like the Kurt Russell and Goldie Han of

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Speaker 1: sports betting podcasting excimon.

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Speaker 2: I like that, Chet, Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 3: I mean I was just thinking back there that we

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Speaker 3: we're co stars, we're compadres, we're companions and we're a couple.

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Speaker 2: There's only one thing or not what married.

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Speaker 1: People should know if they're watching me on YouTube, it

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Speaker 1: is the off season. You are in the middle of moving.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, off season, truly on the move. It's the best.

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Speaker 4: I love the off season. And yeah, honestly doesn't feel

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Speaker 4: an off season just because football is never ending. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: definitely definitely on the move right now. So yeah, sorry,

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, listen, we do have some off season

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Speaker 1: NFL stuff to talk about her. Next week, we got

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Speaker 1: our good friend Bill barn Wall coming on. He's been

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Speaker 1: doing some great columns about where he thinks players will land,

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Speaker 1: how he's ranking offensive players and who's potentially going to

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Speaker 1: be moving and defensive players. But simon, today, I do

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Speaker 1: want to talk about season win totals because those did

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Speaker 1: We did have an emailer question the Cleveland Browns, and

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Speaker 1: I was going through this, the Cleveland Browns were standing

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you probably don't remember because we were just giving

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Speaker 2: So he had one hundred and thirty to one.

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Speaker 4: This is what I gave out the Browns, and then

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Speaker 2: My whole view of it is just if he comes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't believe it. This feels like a line

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't put money in over this this early on

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Speaker 4: you're already taking five games with no Mahomes on a

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Speaker 4: I think we romanced the pass, and you know that's

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Speaker 4: that's a past number. Like you're telling me they're the

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Speaker 4: That's why I'm saying people, if you're gonna bet heavy

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Speaker 1: And what's interesting is they have another team in the

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Speaker 1: And so I'm kind of a pass on this right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would lean the over. I'm just like you.

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Speaker 4: It's if they're healthy. Yeah, we think they're gonna be

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Speaker 4: obviously much better offensively. The question is how they're gonna

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Speaker 4: That man was a really good coach and that's why

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I think you nailed a little bit. There's

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Speaker 1: Who's the team in the division that it has way

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Speaker 4: To me, one of the worst lines of the books,

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Speaker 2: And that's gonna be one. To me, they're just gonna

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Speaker 4: This will be easily ten and a half come September.

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Speaker 4: If Mahomes is going to miss time as well, this

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Speaker 4: that's you're what I was talking about. You're looking for

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Speaker 2: So I really love that open number.

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Speaker 4: Anytime you can get a team that made it to

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Speaker 1: back the over as minus forty, the under plus one fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Let me think about this for a second. Okay, ready,

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Speaker 4: I mean this stafford coming off the MVP year, it

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Speaker 2: And that literally you look back that I literally dictated.

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Speaker 4: Honest, you so much in the playoffs, so it felt

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Speaker 1: All right, your favorite team with a brand new offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know about you, but I just think

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I do think the Eagles could take a step back,

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Speaker 4: Back still feels like eleven to ten wins. So you know,

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Speaker 4: I'll just say this as something that collects cards, That's

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Speaker 1: Do you have an opinion shoud Or Sanders versus Deshaun

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Speaker 1: No, I think what it's done is done. Stepsisco ten

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Speaker 1: in it at the end of the year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they had a cupcake schedule and they're gonna they're

436
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 4: about to lose Trent Williams.

437
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 2: It might begin, it might be get real ugly fast

438
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,200
Speaker 2: and for the forty nine ers, So.

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00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 4: We're gonna we're gonna find out pretty quick how good

440
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 4: is party dealing with pressure, because we've seen his body

441
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 4: not hold up after taking so many hits early in

442
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 4: his career. Here, that's going to knock on him, right.

443
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 4: He's not that six' five built like a brick house.

444
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 4: Guy he's undersized. Quarterback So i'm just a little uneasy

445
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 4: about them losing Trend. Williams what that offensive line is

446
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 4: gonna look like With Brock purdy back?

447
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 1: There all? Right last one in the ten and a

448
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: half Range Seattle, seahawks the world champions ten and a

449
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: half one two three.

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00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 2: Under, wow another.

451
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Speaker 4: Disagreement yeah, AGAIN i just people are seeing a trend.

452
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 4: Here i've taken the under on all three of these

453
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 4: these guys in this. Division it went all right for

454
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Speaker 4: this division last. Year they had tons of. Wins they're

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Speaker 4: basically doesn't matter if it was four Nine ers Or.

456
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 4: Seattle they were gonna be the one seed and they just.

457
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 4: Overachieved we see a time and time again those, divisions

458
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 4: the scheduled, dictation so much of, That like they're not

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00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 4: playing THE Nfc south. Again and you, KNOW i look

460
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 4: at The seattle. TEAM i know people want us to

461
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 4: put you, Know Sam donald the top ten quarterbacks and

462
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 4: that's a discussion for another. Day but this is a

463
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 4: man that had what was it twelve fumbles and the twelve,

464
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 4: Picks like he just was really lost in the regular.

465
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 4: Season they kind of were able to hide it and

466
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 4: get away with it in the. Playoffs AND i just

467
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 4: look at this team as a team that's going to

468
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 4: pay a lot of guys that just won.

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00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 2: A Super bowl and we've seen that Super bowl.

470
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 4: Hangover unless you have the number one quarterback in my

471
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 4: homes Or, brady you tend to have a really down.

472
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 4: Year it's hard to keep the guys together after having

473
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 4: so much. Success it really. Is we've seen this league

474
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 4: just chew up these teams that win The Super bowl

475
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 4: the previous. Year so it's it's tough because it is

476
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 4: it's a good number at ten and a, HALF i

477
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 4: think it's a fair, price but, YEAH i do lean

478
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 4: to the under on that.

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00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 1: Number my compound this is The eagles from last, year

480
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: from two years ago to this past. Year in that,

481
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: Obviously Jalen hurts is, great but this defense is so

482
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: good that it will keep them in games When Sam

483
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: donald isn't. Perfect and to, me that's worth, five, six

484
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 1: seven wins over the course of a. Year so Can

485
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: Sam donald win them four? GAMES i Think Sam donald

486
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: can win them four, games but my bet is entirely

487
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the.

488
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 2: Ball that's, fair but you don't love. It, YEAH i

489
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 2: would not take.

490
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 1: You do not agree with. It it's, fair but you

491
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Speaker 1: not agree with?

492
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Speaker 2: It, no, no all.

493
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: Right so we've Heard you've Got buffalo and the. Over

494
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: you like that a. Lot you've Got detroit and the

495
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: under you like that a. Lot denver and the over

496
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: you like that a. Lot we are going to do

497
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: a part two of this episode next week for the

498
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: rest of the bets outside of this sort of ten

499
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Speaker 1: and a half and over or under that we just.

500
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Speaker 1: Discussed before we get to, That, simon do want to

501
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 1: give One chad's choice before we get out of. Here

502
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: you can think about you can grate. It you can

503
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: give me your response next. Week see if we get

504
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: any wise guy, feedback some sharp. Calls are you?

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00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 2: Ready it's DoD are you sure you want to do?

506
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 2: This are you willing to make a? Choice what choice

507
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 2: we can't run? From when we are sharpdos and just

508
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 2: see you you know WHAT i?

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00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: Mean The Carolina Panthers sigmon are at six and a

510
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:41,959
Speaker 1: half six and a. Half what kind of sharp or

511
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: square participant WOULD i be IF i did not go

512
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: with The Carolina panthers over six and a half in

513
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: THE Nfc. South DO i think The falcons are going

514
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 1: to be? Unbelievable? No DO i think The bucks are

515
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Speaker 1: going to be? Unbelievable? No DO i think this are

516
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: gonna be? Unbelievable? No this feels like a very competitive.

517
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 1: Division so why WOULDN'T i take The, panthers whose defense

518
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: got better last, year whose COACH i, like Who Bryce

519
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: YOUNG i believe, in AND i know he's got some

520
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: magic at the end of the. Games we've now seen

521
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 1: it for two straight. Years why WOULDN'T i take the

522
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: over six and a half With Carolina. Panthers?

523
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 4: Trap, Trap. Trap that's WHY i love, You. Chad you

524
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 4: walked right into. It they got, You they got you.

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00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 4: Good Uh, Yeah there's there's a lot of, reasons BUT

526
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 4: i Guess i'll say that for part. Two BUT i

527
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 4: love that you walked right into that. TRAP i saw.

528
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 4: IT i knew right away as AS i SAW i,

529
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 4: Said chad's gonna love that six and a half because

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Speaker 4: we're a killing. Podcast So i'll end have been to

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Speaker 4: with you just so we can enjoy it all season

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00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 4: and suffer.

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Speaker 2: Together But, yeah it's a.

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Speaker 1: Trap Chad's choice presented by Hard. Rock bet The Carolina

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Speaker 1: panthers over six and. Half all. Right this has Been

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Speaker 1: will be back On. Thursday we got a great, Guest keith,

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