WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Line Dancing 0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:06.720 The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:18.480 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let's go. Are you 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:22.640 ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:26.960 Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that. 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:31.320 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:37.440 wall with Nick Eatman, David Hellman and bar Garcia and 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:42.600 Derek Eagleton. It is Thursday, October twenty second, twenty twenty, 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:46.000 season sixteen, episode number forty nine. Welcome to the latest 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:48.760 edition of The Break. I'm Derek Eagleton. I'm lifing s 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:51.400 WBC Morey Studios. At the start, I got Nick Amber 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:54.000 and Dave with me, and we're joined as we are 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:58.120 every Wednesday and Thursday, by Bucky Brooks of NFL Network. Bucky, Today, 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:01.000 we get to talk about the Washington football teams defense 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:05.920 versus the Cowboys offense. Looks like teams don't even really 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:09.760 try to throw much against this Washington defense. And my 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:12.400 question for you is that because this pass rush is 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:15.360 just that good, or there really just some some real 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:18.840 deficiencies in the running game that teams are finding more 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:24.440 more easy to kind of exploit. This defense is loaded 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:28.720 with pass rushers, Dave invested heavily in the defensive line 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:32.319 and is paying dividends. They have five former first rounders 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:36.160 on their defensive front. Chase Young, Monte Sweat to Run Payne, 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:38.880 Jonathan Allen, and Ryan Carrigan comes off the bench, and 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:42.200 they absolutely can get after using a four man rush 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:45.200 and max coverage in the back end. This is how 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:47.800 Jack del Rio wants to play. It's how he played 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:50.520 when he was at Carolina, when I was there as 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:52.960 a scout. That's what he wants to do. And so 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:56.320 they wanted to put the onus on the offense to 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:58.960 drive the ball to length of the field without the 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:03.680 quarterback making turnovers. And they're banking that your quarterback will 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:06.000 make a mistake, he will force the ball down the 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:09.000 field or the rush would just overwhelm them to the 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:11.480 point that he throws up a pass and air and 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:14.399 pass under the rest. And so that's how it works. Yes, 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:17.000 teams are being able to move the football and run 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:19.400 the football and do those things, but when they've been 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:22.040 able to control the game, meaning their offense doesn't give 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:24.560 it away, their defense is certainly good enough to win 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:29.560 it by themselves. Well, in that case, based on the game, 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:32.440 we just watched from the Cowboys and looking at what 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:34.560 they were able to do and not do in the 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:37.600 passing game and the running game. Which side Which of 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:41.400 the two should the Cowboys try to exploit more the 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:44.519 running game or the passing game. I think this is 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:46.440 a game with Dallas has to be very careful. The 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:48.280 only way that the Cowboys can lose this game is 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:52.560 they gift the Washington football team easy opportunities in short fields. 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:55.560 Because offensively, the Washington football team is very challenge in 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:58.240 terms of coming up with big plays. And so I 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:01.000 would say maybe a little more conservative game plan, not 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:03.799 only to protect themselves against turning it over, but also 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:06.720 to protect the quarterback, the backup quarterback, Andy Dalton. They 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:08.880 need to try and run it. They have to establish 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:10.480 the run. They have to be able to control the 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:14.600 game from a clock management tempo standpoint, and so Zeke 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.280 has to be prominently featured regardless of the fumbling wolves. 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:19.680 Hopefully he takes care of the football. But I think 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:21.919 it has to be a running game with some selective 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:31.320 quick passes. Quick passes them control the game and a 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:36.800 very ball control standpoint. Bucky, just can they go east 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:38.400 and west on this team? I mean I know that 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:40.720 we always say they need to go north, but I 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:42.520 just don't know if they have the power up front 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:44.560 on the offensive line being so banged up. Is this 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:46.480 one where you have to kind of try to spread 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:48.320 the field on them or they are is watching them 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:52.440 too fast for it? They're very fast. I mean they're 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:55.160 fast and athletic front. You can look at their linebackers 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:58.600 in their linebackers are non notable bull guys k Holkman 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:01.280 and John Boston. But it doesn't matter because the front 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:04.200 is so good that you can't even get to the linebackers. 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:05.960 And the way they play they want you to run 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:08.960 sideline the sideline because that plays to the strength of 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:12.200 their team. But their athleticism, particularly upfront, I think you 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:14.320 have to hit them right up in the face. You 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:16.560 have to make this a game that is played in 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:18.320 the phone booth, and you have to see if your 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:21.080 offensive line, in spite of all the change, is up 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:23.000 to the task of being able to create some movement 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:25.560 at the point of attack. It's going to be tough 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:28.440 sledding for the offense, particularly on the ground, but I 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:31.200 think it's the only way that you can play against him, 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:33.599 because you simply do not want Amy Dum to throw 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:36.080 the ball fifty times against this pass for us and 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:40.080 against the coverage that they've been able to play successful. Bucky, 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:42.040 I'm gonna I'm gonna kind of do the same thing 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:44.279 I did to you yesterday. I mean, I hear where 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:47.920 you're coming from. The offense needs to play clean, maybe 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:50.640 play a little bit conservatively so they don't make mistakes. 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:53.919 But that's what they do. They make a lot of 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:55.800 mistakes and it's gotten them in a lot of trouble 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:58.480 over the last month. You know, I know you just 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:02.920 said you can't worry about Zeke's fumbling problems, and I 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:04.760 think I agree with you, But I mean, is there 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:07.760 something they can do to mitigate the risk. Do you 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:10.720 just say clean it up Zeke and hope he can 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:13.360 do it, or you know, do you rotate these running backs? 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:16.880 Is there a certain type of run or maybe the 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:18.880 screen game that you can get him involved in to 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:22.839 mitigate that? What do you think? You know the problem 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:25.960 with that is, in spite of his flaws, I think 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:27.760 we all will say that Zeke is still the best 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:30.920 offensive weapon that the Cowboys have, and so you can 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:32.919 try to avoid the issues, but at some point you 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:35.000 gotta put the ball in the best the hands of 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:37.000 your best player and let him go to work. Now 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:39.640 it's on him to be able to figure it out. 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:42.840 The funnels five fumbles that he's had this year, for 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:46.640 those on one hundred and one rushing attempts, that's unacceptable, 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:49.960 But you're hoping that he can get it corrected. Traditionally, 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:52.800 he hasn't been a high volume fumbler, even though he 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:54.599 has twenty in his career. I think you have to 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:56.599 continue to give it to him. I do like the 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:58.960 way that Tony Pollard played, but then I think we 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:00.840 can go back early in the year year he has 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:04.479 some eras and miskews and things that made you queasy 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:07.200 about him being on the field, And so right now 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:10.120 there's not a lot of trustworthy guys that you really 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:12.159 can lean on, and so I would like to think 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:14.920 that you just hang your head on Zekiel Elliott fixing it. 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:19.040 But also the quick rhythm passing game. Because they play 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:21.840 so much zone, it should be an opportunity for us 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:25.880 to see more slants, quickouts, little things the Cede Lamb 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:28.600 and Mary Cooper and gallop and maybe those guys can 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:31.960 break tackles in space. There's a way to attack this 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:34.800 Washington football team. You just have to be smart in 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:36.599 the way that you go about doing it. And so 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:39.000 a mix of the run and the ball control passing 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.880 game should give you opportunities to move the chains and 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:44.400 move the ball consistently into scoring range where you can't 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:47.440 score some touchdowns and field goals against this squad. On 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:51.000 that note, Buckie, the Rams of all the teams that 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:53.520 the Washington football team have played at their at the 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:58.200 best day, passing the ball against this Washington football team defense, 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:00.960 they gained three hundred yards of the air. How were 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:02.600 they able to be successful? What were some of the 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:04.720 things that they did, and maybe the Cowboys have the 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:06.960 capabilities to do that could lead to some of the 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:11.880 same success. We're one of the Rams married their run 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:15.400 game with their pass game, the same things that gave 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:17.680 us issues early the first game of the year, where 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:21.440 they were running fly sweep action, complimentary play action passes 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:23.200 down the field. That's where they were able to hit 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:27.080 the Washington football team with The Cowboys don't operate with 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:31.720 that kind of dynamic scheming when it comes to their 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:36.080 running game. But you can put the Washington football team 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:39.000 in the bond if you're able to create some form 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:41.160 of concern about the running game. And so however you 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:44.679 get to that running game, whether it's throw early, run later, 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:47.760 throw on first down, get back to running on second 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:50.840 and third down, you have to make them make a 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:53.600 decision that we have to drop LANDA Collins in the box. 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:56.320 We have to create some one on one situation, some 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:58.960 single high safety looks, and you have to attack them 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:02.320 when you get that. You have to use Zeke as 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:04.920 the threat to make them change the way that they 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:07.400 played their coverage. And then when you get them in 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:10.520 those situations, you have to cash in on those opportunities 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:12.360 when you have one on one on the outside with 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:15.320 Michael galloping al Maria Cooper. Because as much as I 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:18.640 made like how Kim the Fuller is playing, Ronald Darby 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:21.480 and Favorite Moreau are just guys and they've been able 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:24.440 to protect him by playing this soft zone. If you 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:26.480 can give them in a situation where they're having to 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:28.840 play more man to man, are having to play more 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:32.000 one on one situations, that's when the scales tip to 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:36.880 the Cowboys when their offense is in control. You talked 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:40.319 about the pass rush, and then we all know the 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:44.280 struggles that the Cowboys offensive lines are dealing with currently. 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:47.640 Last week, I feel that there were instances where I'd 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:50.559 be watching the offense and seeing Andy Dowton and I'm 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:53.000 just like comeing in the get out, go run, get 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:55.440 out of there, go for it, And it didn't happen. 0:08:55.840 --> 0:09:00.400 And I know that the running and his mobility, it's 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:04.719 not necessarily his strength at quarterback. But is this a 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:07.760 game where maybe the Cowboys give him a little more 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:10.319 wiggle room and liberty for him to kind of just 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:14.559 kind of move around a little more and just and 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:18.800 not be so static. I mean, like, ideally you would 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:20.719 think that the veteran would get the ball out of 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:22.599 his hands he held onto it. Now, some of that 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:26.319 is rushed because he hadn't played, and as you guys know, 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:28.599 when you're the starting quarterback, you take up all the 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:31.079 reps where Andy Dalton hadn't gotten those reps, and so 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:33.400 he is still adjusted. I would expect him to be 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:36.760 a much better player the second start as opposed to 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:39.680 his first start, because now he's more comfortable as the starter. 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:42.439 I think this is also a game where Mike McCarthy 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:45.000 has to have a conversation with Kellen Moore to feature 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:48.480 the quick game. Make Andy Dalton get the ball out 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:51.480 of his hands by calling routes dead are quick, try 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:54.160 to avoid being tempted or I'm gonna take shots. I'm 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:56.720 gonna go attack this coverage. We're gonna set him up. 0:09:57.200 --> 0:09:59.760 Just let the playmakers work and so Andy, get the 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:02.480 ball to Mary Cooper and Ceedee Lamb and Michael Gallant 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:04.760 and let those guys do the work for you. Five 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:08.920 yard passes via air yards and let those guys break tackles. 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:11.240 When you look at a Marey Cooper and Ceedee Lamb, 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:12.920 they can go to work when they have the ball 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:14.959 in the hands, let them do it. Get it to 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:16.959 him on the perimeter, and let them do all the 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:19.599 heavy lifting instead of trying to call these deep and 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:22.800 intricate pass routes where one year old line can't protect 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:24.920 and to Andy darn is going to be tempted to 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:28.640 hold onto it waiting for a receiver to uncover. I mean, 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:31.920 I doubt that, this is my opinion. I doubt Ezekiel 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:36.040 Elliott fumbles this week. However, do you feel like when 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:38.360 a guy's trying not to fumble, he's still gonna be 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:41.200 Ezekiel Elliott. I mean, he's just gonna be like two 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:42.880 hands on the ball. Wait, looking at me like that, 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:47.280 I'm just listening. Okay, he's not gonna find it's not 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:50.319 the ball. But is he gonna run? I mean, he's 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:53.920 gonna get more than five yards doing it. Because everybody's 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:55.920 talking about the fumbles. He's going back to the lab 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:58.800 to look at fumbles. I mean, all I'm saying is 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:00.920 is that he's not going to be a guy that's 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:04.280 gonna sit there and say eat because he's worried about 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:10.880 the football all the time. So I mean not Nick. Now, Nick, 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:12.960 you bring up a good point, because certainly it's going 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:15.120 to be in his head and it's also going to 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:18.400 be in the minds of every Washington football team defender. 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:20.719 Because he has put the ball on the ground, and 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:23.719 he's put it on the ground consistently the first part 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:26.680 of the season. Every defender is going to Pope, Pride 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:29.679 pool swipe at the ball when he's running it. Now, 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:31.240 the thing that Zeke has to be able to do 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:34.160 is he still has to remain an aggressive runner while 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:37.520 being mindful of the ball. And so what you try 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:39.240 to do is you try not to over coach him 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:41.400 when it comes to the fumbling walls. You tell him 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:43.200 to be mindful when you're in traffic, put two hands 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:46.560 on it, covered up. Understand, when you're going for extra yards, 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:48.880 you do put the ball in jeopardy. But you still 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:51.520 have to let Zeke be Zeke. And so it's that 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:54.959 fine line where you emphasize it and you touch on it, 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:57.280 but you don't want to overtalk it because you don't 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:59.280 want him to be a tenantive player. He has been 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:02.360 a dominant play, a top five runner because he has 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:05.160 played a certain style. You have to continue to encourage 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:07.360 him to play the style while Steel being mofuled of 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:11.319 just taking care of football. I don't think anybody who 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:13.480 listens to this show really needs to hear a lot 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:17.440 about the actual pass rushers on this team, Like Washington's 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:20.720 given Dallas fits for years, and that was before they 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:25.720 even had Sweat or Chase Young. But I'm curious. Landon 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:29.800 Collins strikes me as a very similar type of safety 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:33.040 to Buddha Baker. And we saw what Buddha Baker was 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:37.920 able to do the other night, due does Washington? You know, 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:39.800 are they gonna ask him to do that type of stuff? 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:41.719 Are we gonna have to worry about him lifting or 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:44.599 do they trust those you know that front four to 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:48.640 do it all themselves. Well, when you put put it 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:51.680 on tape and you see Buddha Baker go crazy, certainly 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:53.360 Jack del Rio will have to add it to the 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:56.000 play sheet. He'll have to at least test him to see. 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:58.000 I was worried if you're gonna say that fixed it, 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:00.719 if they fixed that issue. But I mean, when you 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:02.920 see the Cardinals have so much success being able to 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:06.480 dial up pressures from all angles and the confusion with 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:10.439 an inexperienced offensive line, yeah, you may get some of that. 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:13.760 That's not their normal emo. They typically don't like to 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:16.920 dial up pressure because when you dialoup pressure, it exposes 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:19.280 them in the back end. But I do believe now 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:23.679 that they've seen a team have success, it will maybe 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:26.439 lead to a couple more blitzers and pressures that you 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:28.839 may see from the Washington football team, even though it's 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:32.560 not their normal way of going about doing their business defensively. Yeah, 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:34.599 even though that's not what they do. I think for 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:36.840 the next several weeks, we could probably expect the Cowboys 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:38.360 are going to get a lot of that because this 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:41.600 offensive line and what they put on tape there against 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:45.439 the Cardinals. Final question for you, Bucky, we get to 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:48.840 the moment of truth. Who wins this game and why? 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:53.080 I mean, I think this is a game for Dallas 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:55.560 to win. I don't think the Washington football team has 0:13:55.679 --> 0:14:00.640 enough offensive firepower to score unless the Cowboys give it away. 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:04.040 And so if the Cowboys just can win the turnover battle, 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:06.199 and I don't even really worry what that looks like 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:08.520 plus one or whatever, as long as they win the 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:10.400 turnover battle, they should be in a position to win. 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:13.839 I think the key to the game really rest on 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:18.679 Zekiel Elliott and how he approaches it. Is he tentative 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:21.760 and timid like Nick has been alluding to, or does 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:24.520 he just play? Because if he plays like Zekiel Elliott, 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:26.440 he can have success. We have seen him have success 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:29.560 against his team before. He just has to tote it 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:31.480 and they have to be confident enough to tote it 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:34.400 because we know that the recipe for disasters andy Dalton 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:37.480 throwing the ball fifty times. Zeke has no choice but 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:39.480 to be good because they have to give him enough 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:41.440 opportunities to be good, and I think he will and 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:43.800 I think the Cowboys should be able to win this game. 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:45.800 But it's gonna be a touchdown a less. I think 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:47.640 it'd be very similar to the New York Giants game 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:50.240 Real Quick Bucky as a follow up to that. Do 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:52.160 you think Zeke is good enough to be able to 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:57.840 have success even with this offensive line? Yeah? I mean 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:00.400 it's tough, like normally depended upon your offense some line 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:02.560 as a runner, but I think he certainly is good enough. 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:06.320 I think the thing it comes to a commitment not 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:10.000 only from Zeke, but from the play caller and everyone involved. 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:12.200 Has Mike McCarthy stood in front of the room and said, 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:16.120 our path to success is running the football with Zeke Elliott. 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:19.600 When they have that declaration, that's when you'll see things 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:21.160 start to change. And I just don't know if they've 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:24.360 gotten to that point because it's not only Zekiel Ellett 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:26.640 in the offensive line. Does Kellen Moore know that that 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:29.040 is the best course for them to be able to win? 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:31.840 Does he have a clear understanding of how to do it? 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:35.400 And I think as the losses mount, Mike McCarthy at 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:38.200 some point has to put a bigger imprint on this 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:40.640 offense and the way the team is managed. And I 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:43.880 think we're nearing that point at two and four he 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:45.960 has to kind of step up with all the criticism 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:48.240 and the whispers. He has to kind of turn this around, 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:50.200 and I'm hoping that he'll do that. All Right, we 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:53.720 appreciate you, Bucky ell as good stuff as usual. We'll 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:55.240 catch up with you next week when we talk a 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:58.320 little bit more about Cowboy's next opponent. 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Hold on, Can I say 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:49.520 something real quick? This has been bothered me for a while, 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:53.840 definitely this week? All right? Okay, Dave Amber helped me 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:57.040 on this because I don't really know. Is it Washington 0:18:57.160 --> 0:19:00.960 Football Team? As is that their title? Dallas? That is 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:03.800 their name? They are the Washington team? Are they the 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:07.080 Washington Football team? Just like it's Dallas? Are they Washington 0:19:07.600 --> 0:19:09.960 Football Team? Well, it depends on where you look at it. 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:12.400 Like if you look at it on thost sites where 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:14.960 they you know where they they they have your name, 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:16.760 they have your city, and then they have your moniker. 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:20.280 Then they actually listed as Washington is their city and 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:23.760 football team. They're annoying. We don't sit there and say, 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:26.560 the Atlanta Falcons do this, the Philadelphia Eagles are this? 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:30.679 The Washington football team just called Washington like the Washington Dallason. 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:33.919 That's honestly, that's what I do. Like I've said annoying 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:36.399 ever since they made the change, I just typically call 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:39.280 it Washington. I'm just glad it's something different than it was. 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:42.080 It just seems like it's so cute and fun that 0:19:42.160 --> 0:19:45.480 everyone just loves to say Washington football team, washing football 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:47.680 team business and then watching football teams, and even Bucky 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:49.639 said at fourteen times, well you know why I do that? Now? 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:52.359 You know why I do that is because I've said 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:55.520 the other name for so many years that mentally I 0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:57.520 have to do that to keep myself from saying the 0:19:57.640 --> 0:20:01.040 other name. So like literally really, as I was driving 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:03.639 to work Monday of this week, I was thinking to 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:06.800 myself and I said, probably fifty times, watch the football team. 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:09.000 Watch the football team. Watch the football team, just because 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:10.640 I had to get it into my head because I've 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:12.520 been saying the other name for solo. Yeah, so yeah, 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:14.240 I said, Well, on the radio the other day, I 0:20:14.280 --> 0:20:20.240 said the red teams over under, and I think I'm 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:22.440 at two this week. So let's see what happens in 0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:24.560 the game. Yeah, all right, so let's jump in. Let's 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:27.640 talk a little bit more about this Cowboys offense versus 0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:31.840 the Washington football team's defense. One question I have for 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:35.239 you guys about the offense. Can Dallas win playing more 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:38.119 ball control and scoring twenty points per game if they 0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:40.840 get rid of turnovers? I know Bucky was talking about that. 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:42.000 He was saying, you know, you want to have the 0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:44.520 quick passing game and combine with your running game. That 0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:47.479 may be your way to success. And I think if 0:20:47.520 --> 0:20:50.240 you do that, you're probably gonna not You're not gonna 0:20:50.280 --> 0:20:52.880 be scoring. I don't think as quick and as many 0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:55.440 points as we've seen throughout this year. But the question 0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:57.200 is do they have a defense that's good enough to 0:20:57.240 --> 0:20:58.960 do that if they don't turn it over? Nicko, let's 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:02.800 go to you first. I think the defense. Obviously, the 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:06.120 defense is not as bad as as the points they're 0:21:06.160 --> 0:21:09.080 giving up just because of the turnovers. Now, there is 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:10.879 something to be said of you know, you don't have 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:13.479 to give up a touchdown just because your offense fumbled. 0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:15.719 It doesn't mean you have to go right out there 0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:18.000 and just have a our fault. Might as well just 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:20.399 give up a touchdown. I mean, you mean, show some 0:21:20.520 --> 0:21:22.920 pride on that part. But I do think, yeah, the 0:21:23.000 --> 0:21:25.480 turnovers would would certainly help, because not only are you 0:21:25.600 --> 0:21:28.080 not turning it over, but like in Zeke's first fumble, 0:21:28.200 --> 0:21:29.920 you're at the forty yard line of the Cardinals. You're 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:31.840 gonna drive and drive, probably get a field goal, maybe 0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:35.680 a touchdown, so you know you're it's it could be 0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:37.960 a fourteen point swing if it's seven points out of 0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:40.360 your hand, seven points to them. So yeah, I think 0:21:40.440 --> 0:21:43.119 I don't know about twenty but but I think that, 0:21:43.400 --> 0:21:45.600 you know, it could be that if this offense was 0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:48.240 not turning it over, probably twenty four twenty eight would 0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:54.680 would probably win amber I think. So, I mean that's 0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:58.080 a huge part of it. The defense obviously needs to 0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:01.480 do their part as well. Well. I mean, aside from 0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:04.520 that first game of the week. Aside from that game, 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:08.920 they've given up thirty plus point every week, so that's huge. 0:22:09.000 --> 0:22:12.760 But again, turnovers don't help. But I absolutely think that 0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:17.280 against Washington, if the offense, the Cowboys offense, is able 0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:20.919 to knock out all their their turnovers, they can definitely 0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:26.679 win that way. Dave number one, I mean against against 0:22:26.720 --> 0:22:31.080 an offense this lifeless. Yes, they can do it. The 0:22:31.200 --> 0:22:34.200 defense can do it against this offense. I mean, you know, 0:22:34.720 --> 0:22:37.879 the Giants scored thirty four. It's really probably more like 0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:41.639 seventeen or twenty if if not for turnovers and mistakes 0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:52.159 by the offense. So it is possible. I don't know 0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:54.720 if we lost Dave there and making his great point, 0:22:55.480 --> 0:22:58.320 but let's do this, let's do this, let's I want 0:22:58.359 --> 0:22:59.880 to I want to throw out something real quick about 0:22:59.880 --> 0:23:02.479 what that point. You were just making compassionate about it too, 0:23:03.640 --> 0:23:08.359 sepoldn't um we have two spots done here. Um No. 0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:11.960 I was saying that, you know they the Cowboys are 0:23:12.040 --> 0:23:15.920 averaging seventy point nine yards on every scoring drive, every 0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:18.960 scoring drive they've had that the average is seventy yards 0:23:19.080 --> 0:23:21.320 per drive. That's doing it the hard way. Yeah, and 0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:23.159 that and that even counts like if you get if 0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:24.760 you get a field goal. I mean, you're only get 0:23:24.840 --> 0:23:27.080 in twenty thirty yards, you know, so it's just the 0:23:27.240 --> 0:23:29.280 yards that you're driving, do you happen to know? And 0:23:29.359 --> 0:23:33.240 the other opponent, the Cowboys opponents are fifty four point one, 0:23:33.800 --> 0:23:36.240 so I mean they they're having I mean you see 0:23:36.240 --> 0:23:38.320 some of these yards for the for the other teams, 0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:41.119 you know, thirty yard drives, the seventeen yard drive, thirty one, 0:23:41.320 --> 0:23:44.479 thirty eight. Cowboys hardly have. They only have two this year. 0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:47.200 They're less than fifty and both of them were field goals, 0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:51.880 so they're not they're not getting any turnovers obviously, any 0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:54.600 big plays on the punt return or anything for short fields. 0:23:54.640 --> 0:23:56.240 And it's like you're right doing it the hard way. 0:23:56.400 --> 0:23:58.399 And and the interesting part about that is you can 0:23:58.480 --> 0:24:01.639 expect to maybe do that to some level of success, 0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:04.840 maybe not winning, but some level of offensive success if 0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:07.040 you've got all your pieces in place. And I'm talking 0:24:07.119 --> 0:24:10.640 particularly about the quarterback. Without that, as we saw last week, 0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:12.879 that is a that is a tough ask with this 0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:16.760 offensive line and Andy having to play a little different, 0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:18.639 Like that's not Andy's game to be able to deal 0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:20.760 with a bad offensive line and make people miss. That's 0:24:20.840 --> 0:24:22.920 not his game. So when you're asking putting him in 0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:25.280 that situation, now you're saying, Okay, every drive you're gonna score, 0:24:25.280 --> 0:24:27.600 you're gonna have to go seventy yards. The likelihood of 0:24:27.640 --> 0:24:30.200 you doing that regularly is is probably not that great. 0:24:31.160 --> 0:24:35.400 Dave you back? Am? I am? I back? Yes, you're back. 0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:38.000 I'm sorry, y'all. I don't I don't know why this 0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:41.000 only ever happens to me. It's it's you. It sucks 0:24:41.040 --> 0:24:44.399 because I was nice and riled up, like I was, really, 0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:46.800 where'd you lose me? Like? What was the last thing 0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:48.920 I said? Tell you what you were going to say? That? 0:24:49.320 --> 0:24:53.479 Do you trust the offense to actually quit turning over 0:24:53.600 --> 0:24:57.439 the ball? Okay? Exactly? Okay, so yes they can. They 0:24:57.520 --> 0:25:00.879 can hold Washington to twenty points if they don't turn 0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:02.919 over the ball. But why do we think that they won't? 0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:05.879 Why do we think that they won't do it? Like, 0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:09.040 it's not an aberration, it's not a rough patch, it's 0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:12.240 what they've done all year. I will bet any of 0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:15.800 y'all an ice cold Miller light. I mentioned PBR, so 0:25:15.880 --> 0:25:17.800 I want to throw out one of our sponsors instead, 0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:21.359 I will buy you a Miller lighte if Andy Dalton 0:25:21.480 --> 0:25:24.280 does not get strip sacked on Sunday. It is going 0:25:24.359 --> 0:25:26.760 to happen. One of these guys is going to rip 0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:29.239 through this line and hit the crap out of him, 0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:31.640 and the ball's gonna be on the ground. They're going 0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:34.119 to turn the ball over. I refuse to believe that 0:25:34.200 --> 0:25:36.639 they won't until they prove me otherwise. And that's what 0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:42.120 that's what troubles me is. Yeah, this Washington offense is putrid, 0:25:42.200 --> 0:25:44.920 like the Dallas defense might actually have a chance against them, 0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:48.359 but they're gonna get some help. I promise you they are. 0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:54.000 You know, one thing, do you trust the I was 0:25:54.080 --> 0:25:57.959 gonna ask, do you trust the cop of the Washington 0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:02.440 offense and our defense to actually be able to Well, 0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:08.080 do you trust the Washington offense to capitalize on those turnovers? 0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:10.119 I mean he goes back to the defense. I mean, 0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:13.080 do you trust the defense enough to actually stop them 0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:17.120 from scoring touchdown suddenly? Well, I mean that's that's hard 0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:19.520 to predict, right because I mean, you know, maybe maybe 0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:22.320 they turn it over on the Washington thirty, or maybe 0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:25.760 they turn over at midfield. But what I mean, you know, Dad, 0:26:28.280 --> 0:26:30.800 there's been a strip sack that sets Seattle up on 0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:33.879 the three yard line. I mean, any offense can score 0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:36.879 if they're inside the five, start to drive or you know, 0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:45.160 or the defense say that Washington is going to get 0:26:45.560 --> 0:26:48.040 seven to ten points off of turnovers. Just based on 0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:50.840 everything we've seen so far this season. You know, I 0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:52.960 think that one thing the Cowboys have got to do 0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:55.560 in this game, and really in a lot of games, 0:26:56.080 --> 0:26:58.639 is they have to throw the ball down the field 0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:01.920 way more. I mean, like even the safeties aren't playing 0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:03.719 that far back and you can spread them all over 0:27:03.760 --> 0:27:06.440 the field. Find your mismatch. Fine, is it Cooper is 0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:09.000 a gallop? Is it CD? Whatever it is. But they 0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:11.520 need to take shots down the field because I said 0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:13.840 this for years. You do that early in the game, 0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:16.359 it's gonna let everybody know what you're trying to do. 0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:18.639 It lets them know if it pushes them back, and 0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:21.320 you can kind of offset. You know, you're getting the 0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:25.680 shotgun three steps block it, Max protect throw the ball 0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:28.200 down field. You have playmakers that can go make plays. 0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:30.760 They can run by people and guess what they throw 0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:33.080 flags in this league for past interference, which in this 0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:36.440 offense you could take it forty yards. You know, Lord 0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:38.840 knows that the Cowboys defense gets called for it. So 0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:41.920 I'm just saying they need to do that. Back off 0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:43.639 the pressure a little bit. But let me ask you this, 0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:45.840 does that work in an instance where you're playing a 0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:50.240 team like the Washington football team that does not necessarily blitz. 0:27:50.520 --> 0:27:53.080 So that means if they're playing they got seven let's 0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:55.399 say they got seven guys back, they're only rushing four. 0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:58.240 They got seven guys back. Even if you max protect, 0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:00.720 it doesn't mean you're gonna get it guy open because 0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:02.080 you got three guys in a route and you got 0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:04.520 seven guys defending. Like, how do you how do you 0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:07.000 manage that against a team that doesn't blitz as much? Well? 0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:09.159 And stop? I mean, you know, do it. I mean 0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:10.520 you don't have to. I mean, you don't have to 0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:12.440 run deep if they're gonna play that far over the top. 0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:14.879 But I mean you can find within that group, you 0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:18.480 can find a favorable deep ball. They're not just playing, 0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:22.399 you know, prevent blanket coverage back there. I mean, and 0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:25.000 if not, then then you're tied end. Better get to 0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:27.120 work this week. If that's the case. If they're gonna 0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:28.680 do that and take away your deep ball and only 0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:31.240 rush for then you're tied end. Better work it this week. 0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:33.439 With Dalton Schultz. And you know, that's something I think 0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:35.400 Andy Dalton would like to do is throw it kind 0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:37.400 of down. But we've seen he's got a nice deep ball. 0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:39.440 These receivers got to go make a play on the ball, 0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:41.360 and I think they can and I think that would 0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:43.200 kind of offset a few things there. Well. I mean, 0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:44.920 I think one of the things they got to consider 0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:46.480 is I think you're right with the tight end, but 0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:48.760 also think they're gonna have to you should we should 0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:52.320 expect to see them flood particular zone. So if you 0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:54.400 got seven guys playing, one way to beat that is 0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:56.520 go to one part of the field and put a 0:28:56.560 --> 0:28:59.280 lot of receivers in that area that with route combinations 0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:01.480 that get a guy open and then get the ball 0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:03.600 to him as quickly as you can. So there are 0:29:03.680 --> 0:29:05.160 ways to do it. I don't know if the deep 0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:06.600 ball is going to be the answer this week. I 0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:08.320 do think though there are ways to be able to 0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:10.800 beat a defense like this. Now is all still as 0:29:10.800 --> 0:29:13.840 predicated on can you stop those four? Because those four 0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:17.040 are gonna be coming and they're better than your five. 0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:19.760 So he even went just five verses four, you're not 0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:22.360 gonna win those matchups. A lot of times this weekend, 0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:24.280 so we'll see how that all plays out. Let's go 0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:25.719 ahead and take our final break when we come back. 0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:28.960 I didn't have another question about the offensive line, and 0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:30.920 we also need to catch up on an injury update 0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:33.320 on Alden Smith. Will come right back. 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We find some fun 0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:03.600 in here and some reasons to laugh because right now 0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:05.800 the team isn't given us much of though. But what's 0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:09.760 the defense? Fourteen men on the field? Sometimes, I'm sorry 0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:12.160 that ain't funny. All right, let's jump back in. UM, 0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:14.080 I want to talk a little bit more about the 0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:17.440 offensive line if at this point, I think we all 0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:21.160 probably expect that there's a very good likelihood that both 0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:25.040 Knight and Martin will miss this game. So what is 0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:28.360 the best line combination in your opinions? I don't want 0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:30.280 to know necessarily what you think the team will do, 0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:32.560 because I think we all agree they're gonna try to 0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:35.840 minimize movement as much as possible. So cam Urban probably 0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:38.040 is your option to just pop right in there where 0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:40.280 Brandon Knight is and then keep everything else as it 0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:43.040 was last week. But what do you think is the 0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:46.600 best offensive line combination? Let's start first with Dave while 0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:53.760 we have you, Dave woh No, it's totally justified. Um, 0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:59.200 I mean honestly, I don't know at this point, like 0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:03.280 where we are, like who who? Who? Am I to 0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:06.640 even argue that there's a better possibility out there? I mean, Okay, 0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:11.560 cam irvings Is, I assume gonna start left tackles. He's experienced, 0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:16.520 he's done it before. Ye, maybe you try Jordan Mills 0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:19.320 at right tackle. But like when they signed Jordan Mills, 0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:23.120 I heard a lot of people from Chicago and Buffalo, likesh, 0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:26.520 watch out, Dallas, don't start that guy. So it's not 0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:29.120 you know, it's not like anybody left is like this 0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:33.680 just badass? You know. Um, maybe you know Greg Sinnott 0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:35.560 was good enough that they wanted to poach him off 0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:38.240 Cleveland's practice squad, like they took him from another team, 0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:41.560 So maybe he's worth a look. But I mean we're 0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:43.880 talking about the bottom of the barrel here. No offense 0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:46.040 to all of these guys. I mean, they're NFL players, 0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:49.920 but you're talking about with all due respect, No, and 0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:52.400 with all due respect, but like you're you're talking about 0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:54.920 like your fourth you're talking about like your fourth option 0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:58.400 at left tackle, your third option at right tackle, your 0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:01.800 fourth option at right guard, your second option at center. 0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:05.240 Like what are they supposed to do? I guess maybe 0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:07.680 I would try to not at right tackle, but we 0:34:07.800 --> 0:34:11.640 know that they really like Terrence Steele, so I don't 0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:14.320 think they will, So I would probably just plug Irving 0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:18.840 in on the left side and see what happened, all right, Amber, 0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:23.560 I mean, what else is there to add to that? 0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:27.000 Not much. I agree with everything that Dave said, and 0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:31.160 at this point I'm just like, okay, let's just try 0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:34.680 to keep some kind of consistency in the old line. 0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:37.600 So okay, yes, you're gonna keep Steel. He hasn't been 0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:41.359 playing great, but that's what you got and you don't 0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:45.200 got many options. So now, Cameron Irving, that's another guy 0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:48.400 that you've had in the line in previous time. So 0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:51.719 maybe that's a guy that's just easier to maybe just 0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:56.719 plugging there as well. Obviously not obviously he might surprise us, 0:34:56.880 --> 0:34:59.839 you never know, But I so now in this year, 0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:02.440 you know, we haven't gotten a chance to really see him, 0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:06.120 and the Cowboys clearly preferred of other guys over him 0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:10.279 prior to the injury that happened with him. So it's 0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:12.640 a tough one. You just don't have many options. And 0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:16.719 right now, I guess it's based on whatever they are 0:35:16.800 --> 0:35:19.680 seeing at practice, which are things that we don't get 0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:23.360 to see. So hopefully they make a good choice and 0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:28.200 just figure it out, figure out one way or another, 0:35:28.400 --> 0:35:33.080 trying to poor Andy, Poor Andy, Poor Andy, because it's 0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:36.360 gonna be a tough game. Amber didn't sound very convinced. Nigga, 0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:39.920 I don't think. I mean, they don't know. I don't know. 0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:42.960 I mean, yeah, they want to play Terrence Steele, and 0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:46.840 I feel like they're they're trying that's kind of a 0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:50.040 future thing, like, you know, let's just see how this guy. 0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:52.440 Let's just keep throwing him out there and see if 0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:54.399 he can get better. I mean, where if he gets 0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:56.319 all these reps this year, will he be a better 0:35:56.400 --> 0:36:00.120 player here next season? So I mean I think that 0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:01.920 you know that that's kind of that they're gonna keep 0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:05.000 playing him, and there's really no reason not to. Jordan 0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:07.439 Mills isn't coming off the practice squad yet they haven't 0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:10.400 done it. I mean Gregg's and not. You know, we 0:36:10.560 --> 0:36:13.000 keep hearing he's a basketball type player, a good athlete, 0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:14.879 but I mean, I don't know if he's ready. He's 0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:16.880 on Cleveland's practice squad. So I mean, I think that 0:36:16.960 --> 0:36:19.239 they said it best cam irving left side and just 0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:22.200 keep keep rolling with Steel, but that right side of 0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:28.040 just be oddish, McGovern and Steele. It's like, you know, 0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:29.800 if you were just to say, hey, when they go 0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:32.040 play Washington, this is the three that they're going to 0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:35.239 have on the right side, not not Looney Zach Martin, 0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:40.320 Lyle Collins, but but these three. So here's which just 0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:43.400 I think about this every time they play Washington. I 0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:46.120 talked to Lyle one time. You know, you remember a 0:36:46.200 --> 0:36:48.600 couple of years ago, like his first year at right tackle, 0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:51.560 he had a murderers row, Like he had to play 0:36:51.680 --> 0:36:54.440 Von Miller, He had to play Khalil mac that year. 0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:56.600 Like week after week he was having to play these 0:36:56.680 --> 0:37:00.279 badass left ends. And I was like, Who's who's the 0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:03.040 best one, Who's the hardest guy to play? He was like, 0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:05.200 if you want me to be honest, those guys are 0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:07.920 all good. But Karan Karagan is the hardest guy to 0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:10.840 play like. He's relentless every snap. He never gives you 0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:14.120 anything but his best. I hate playing him, and that 0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:18.120 was coming from Lyle Collins. So Karrogan doesn't even start 0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:22.200 for this team anymore. By the way, I like good 0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:25.000 good luck, which I did. I wanted to throw I 0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:27.680 wanted to throw one more thing out there. You know, 0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:31.000 we talked about Connor Williams as a tackle and if 0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:33.880 things improve a little bit, like if when you get 0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:37.719 Zack Martin back, maybe you can have that conversation. You know, 0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:39.920 maybe you can play mc govern at left guard and 0:37:40.080 --> 0:37:42.400 Zach at right guard. But like, you can't move Connor 0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:45.279 Williams now like you don't have a guard to play. 0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:48.160 If you move him, like you could, you could swap 0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:50.279 Cam Irving in at guard. I think he's done a 0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:52.920 little bit of that. But now you're asking two guys 0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:56.280 to play positions they're not used to on short notice 0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:59.040 against a great pass rush, like you can't. You can't 0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:01.640 do that right now. Maybe when Zach is healthy again, 0:38:01.719 --> 0:38:04.960 maybe it's something you talk about, but that's not possible 0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:08.080 right now. So looking at everything that's happened with the 0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:10.920 offensive line, the injuries you've had, the guys you've had 0:38:11.000 --> 0:38:14.439 to play, how they've performed. Has it gotten bad enough 0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:17.000 yet to where if you were the GM, you would 0:38:17.040 --> 0:38:19.880 be looking out there and looking at the possibility of 0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:23.720 giving up draft capital to trade for an offensive lineman, 0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:26.759 particularly a tackle. Now. I know, obviously both those two 0:38:26.760 --> 0:38:28.719 tackles you expect are going to be back next year, 0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:33.040 but they're both I think definitely with Tyrone, his age 0:38:33.080 --> 0:38:35.520 and the types of injuries he's had, makes you think 0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:38.000 it's still not a bad idea to have a great, 0:38:38.440 --> 0:38:41.520 a really good swing tackle on this team. Would you 0:38:41.600 --> 0:38:43.480 be willing to go up draft capital to go out 0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:46.120 and trade for a replacement tackle to come in right 0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:47.839 now and give you some help, Nicholas, let me find 0:38:47.880 --> 0:38:52.440 out this week and let me get to well, when's 0:38:52.440 --> 0:38:54.680 the buy? I mean, when's the trade deadline? As I 0:38:54.680 --> 0:38:56.759 guess it is coming up week eight? I think, is 0:38:56.800 --> 0:39:01.320 that right? Well, it's it's it's next week, I believe. Yeah, Okay, 0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:03.320 you know I mean, and I say this because it 0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:06.680 comes to a point in any two weeks. I'm sorry too, Sorry, Yeah, 0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:09.040 any season, it doesn't matter if it's NFL, I mean, 0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:11.920 you know, NBA. I mean baseball, you try to figure 0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:14.600 out where you are, and I think Stephen Jones even 0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:17.400 said that, like where you are is for are you 0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:19.560 playing for the future or are you trying to win? 0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:21.879 And I think with this division, you're always gonna try 0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:24.040 to win because you're you're never really gonna be out 0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:26.360 of it. I mean, nobody's out of it. So I 0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:28.640 just I think that's a good question. And don't forget 0:39:28.680 --> 0:39:31.200 about the compensatory picks the Cowboys will probably get for 0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:33.759 about four or so. I mean, so they're gonna have 0:39:33.800 --> 0:39:36.560 a lot of picks this year. Um, yeah, you could, 0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:39.320 you could possibly do that. I just feel like you 0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:41.920 got to figure out though, is is it worth doing though? 0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:44.239 Is it worth trying to get into the playoffs it's 0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:46.640 eight and eight or is it you want to just 0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:49.560 say just play it out and see. I mean, I'm 0:39:49.600 --> 0:39:51.560 gonna wait, this will be a good, good test. You 0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:54.279 got one more game against a really really good defensive line, 0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:57.000 so you'll find out if you have any hope. And 0:39:57.120 --> 0:40:00.319 then if you if you win the game, it's like maybe, 0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:02.120 you know, maybe we do want to get a little 0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:04.000 bit better here and try to win this thing. But 0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:06.840 I mean, I don't know that that's a tough question. 0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:11.919 That's a good question. It is a tough question. One. 0:40:12.080 --> 0:40:14.640 On one hand, I'm like, Okay, do I trust that 0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:16.799 my defense is going to be able to turn things 0:40:16.880 --> 0:40:20.160 around and do something more for my team? In that case, 0:40:20.560 --> 0:40:22.759 do I trust that we actually have a good run 0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:24.960 to make it? Because the thing it's like, yes, it 0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:27.200 sounds great, Oh you're still ahead in the division, blah 0:40:27.200 --> 0:40:29.879 blah blah, but what happens in the playoffs? I mean, yeah, 0:40:30.000 --> 0:40:32.440 you might win the division, but what happens once you 0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:35.560 start facing those other teams are playing better? I mean, 0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:39.400 you're not automatically just gonna get better all of a sudden, 0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:42.600 unless you know there's some progression throughout the weeks. But 0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:47.600 let's say that that's the case, and I'm thinking, okay, yes, 0:40:47.680 --> 0:40:49.840 I want to win this year at least get to 0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:53.680 the playoffs, then my answer would be absolutely yes. I 0:40:53.719 --> 0:40:57.320 would be looking into trading and bringing someone in, mainly 0:40:57.360 --> 0:41:01.120 because it doesn't matter the fine. Yeah, I mean it 0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:03.760 matters a lot. The fact that these guys level wise 0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:07.040 are a lot lower than your starters that you initially had, 0:41:07.280 --> 0:41:10.960 and to me, that creates more possibilities for other injuries. 0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:13.320 You don't know what can happen to a Leidalt and 0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:16.880 you don't know, and God forbid something happened to Zeque 0:41:16.920 --> 0:41:19.440 as well, But you don't know what the lack of 0:41:19.640 --> 0:41:22.480 good protection it's going to lead to as far as 0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:26.760 creating possibilities of injuries of other guys that you absolutely 0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:30.880 need healthy this year. So yes, I would be looking 0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:35.520 to make some kind of trade, all right, Dave, start 0:41:35.640 --> 0:41:38.440 off with my general philosophy. I mean, just with the 0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:41.800 way this roster is constructed right now. If I'm trading 0:41:41.840 --> 0:41:45.240 for somebody, it's got to be a young guy who's 0:41:45.280 --> 0:41:48.839 in the you know, second second year of his deal 0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:51.759 at the world Like, I can't do Amari Cooper again, 0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:54.360 Amari Cooper. It worked, It was a great trade, It 0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:57.120 worked out for everybody. Oakland got a good pick and 0:41:57.480 --> 0:41:59.879 they have a great receiver. But they had to turn 0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:03.440 around and pay them twenty games later. I can't do 0:42:03.520 --> 0:42:07.080 that right now. With how bloated this this contract situation is. 0:42:07.360 --> 0:42:10.040 There's so many big contracts on this team and not 0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:13.080 enough of them are pulling their weight. I can't. I 0:42:13.200 --> 0:42:15.560 can't add that into the mix. Like, if I'm making 0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:16.960 a trade, it's got to be for a guy that 0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:18.759 I don't have to worry about paying for a little while. 0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:22.560 On top of that, yeah, I mean you are right 0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:25.280 to be concerned about the long term future of Tying 0:42:25.360 --> 0:42:29.200 and Lyall, but they're still here and they're still counting 0:42:29.200 --> 0:42:31.799 towards the salary cap, and I've I've got to try 0:42:31.960 --> 0:42:35.000 my best to get them right for at least the 0:42:35.080 --> 0:42:37.680 next few years. So if you want to make it, 0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:39.560 if you want to trade a Day three pick for 0:42:39.680 --> 0:42:42.200 a serviceable tackle who can just help you get through 0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:44.759 the season, I would do that because you need a 0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:46.879 third tackle anyway, like they need to get a guy 0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:50.759 next year no matter what. But it can't be like 0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:54.120 your first round pick. I mean, even with the concerns 0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:57.000 about Tying and Lyle, you can't spend your first round 0:42:57.040 --> 0:43:00.399 pick on a position where you already have to twelve 0:43:00.440 --> 0:43:03.640 million dollar guys. I just don't think that's smart roster building. 0:43:03.719 --> 0:43:05.640 So if you can get a guy for a Day 0:43:05.680 --> 0:43:08.560 three pick, knowing that you've got compics coming, I would 0:43:08.600 --> 0:43:11.200 do it just to keep the season afloat. But like 0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:14.759 a major trade is something that you do to get 0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:18.640 over the top or save your season, and without trying 0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:20.360 to sign like a pessimist, I just don't know that 0:43:20.480 --> 0:43:22.960 that's realistic for this team right now, so I wouldn't 0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:26.160 want to commit too much. You know. The one thing 0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:29.360 I will point out is actually, I personally think that 0:43:29.960 --> 0:43:32.439 they have to address offensive line in next year's draft. 0:43:32.480 --> 0:43:34.719 I think it's actually just as important as addressing this 0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:37.719 defense in next year's draft, because you look at the 0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:40.520 players that they have on this offensive line, and it's 0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:43.279 an offensive line that's really banged up, and I think 0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:45.840 you have to account for the fact that you're not 0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:49.360 going to have Tyren Smith for every game of the 0:43:49.440 --> 0:43:51.640 season next year. I think for the rest of his career, 0:43:51.680 --> 0:43:53.160 you probably have to account for that. Now, if he 0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:55.560 happens to do it, great, that's great because I think 0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:57.719 when he's playing, he's still wanted the best out there. 0:43:58.080 --> 0:43:59.560 But I think you have to account for the fact 0:43:59.600 --> 0:44:02.520 that you might not have him for full sixteen games. 0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:04.440 So I think you gotta address the offensive line, and 0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:06.799 probably a player that can move around a little bit 0:44:06.840 --> 0:44:08.960 there can maybe help you out of guard, can pop 0:44:09.040 --> 0:44:11.360 out the tackle if you get an injury there. But 0:44:11.480 --> 0:44:13.040 I think you have to And so my point is, 0:44:13.080 --> 0:44:15.480 if you're gonna have to address it in the draft anyway. 0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:18.560 Then I'm looking around at teams, and I agree with you, Dave. 0:44:18.640 --> 0:44:20.839 I'm not looking at those top notch guys that I'd 0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:22.560 have to give up a first or second round pick four. 0:44:22.800 --> 0:44:24.680 I'm looking for those guys that maybe I give up 0:44:24.719 --> 0:44:27.080 a fifth round pick four. And it's a guy that 0:44:27.200 --> 0:44:30.480 comes in and he is a very solid tackle. He 0:44:30.760 --> 0:44:32.960 is a and I know fans are gonna roll their 0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:35.120 eyes right now. He is a Doug Free. He is 0:44:35.160 --> 0:44:37.320 a guy that has some wartz, but a guy that 0:44:37.480 --> 0:44:40.279 is serviceable, that is better than what I have right now, 0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:43.680 that I think can be a future swing tackle as 0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:46.719 well on this team. Honestly, I disagree completely. I think 0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:49.000 if you're gonna trade, I would trade a guy that's 0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:51.080 in the last year of his deal that the team 0:44:51.160 --> 0:44:54.120 knows that they're not going to resign. They're still pretty good. 0:44:54.400 --> 0:44:56.520 They might get something. I mean, I don't have a name, 0:44:56.560 --> 0:44:57.960 and I don't want to throw a name out there 0:44:58.080 --> 0:44:59.680 for tampering, but I'm just saying, oh, I thought you' 0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:03.120 on the couch. No, on another team, he's a second 0:45:03.200 --> 0:45:06.160 round pick, a former first round pick maybe, and they're 0:45:06.200 --> 0:45:08.399 not going to sign him. He hasn't been that great, 0:45:08.719 --> 0:45:11.320 but he can. You know, let's just get instead of 0:45:11.360 --> 0:45:13.800 lose him in free agency, you give him something. Because 0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:16.759 think about it. Would the Cowboys right now for a 0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:20.000 fifth round pick? Would they trade Terrence Steele for a 0:45:20.080 --> 0:45:25.080 fifth round pick? Um? Yeah, they would want to. Yes, 0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:27.160 they may not have enough bodies. They would want to. 0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:29.560 They might not be able to. Yeah, they have enough 0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:31.759 bodies for it. I mean even if the guys got back, 0:45:32.800 --> 0:45:35.000 even if you even if let's say Tyman wasn't now, 0:45:35.040 --> 0:45:36.640 you think they would trade for a fifth round pick, 0:45:37.080 --> 0:45:39.239 maybe a sixth. I mean, I don't think it's a 0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:42.000 no brainer. I mean, teams don't what I'm trying to say, 0:45:42.040 --> 0:45:43.600 his teams don't want to get rid of young lineman. 0:45:43.920 --> 0:45:46.000 There's not many out there, so there's not going to 0:45:46.040 --> 0:45:47.680 be a lot of young lineman you can just go 0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:49.520 and get. I don't know if the Cowboys would just 0:45:49.560 --> 0:45:52.000 be willing to just trade maybe a fifth round pick, 0:45:52.320 --> 0:45:54.080 but I mean they wouldn't trade him for a seventh 0:45:54.200 --> 0:45:56.600 round pick or sixth round pick. Probably. I mean they 0:45:56.680 --> 0:45:58.879 feel like they got a good young team. Saying Larry 0:45:58.920 --> 0:46:01.279 Allen got thrown around by Reggie White and he was 0:46:01.320 --> 0:46:03.680 the best to ever play. I'm just I'm not saying 0:46:03.719 --> 0:46:05.799 he's gonna be Larry Allen. I'm just saying he let 0:46:05.880 --> 0:46:09.080 these guys keep going, keep going. He's a big, strong guy. 0:46:09.160 --> 0:46:11.480 He looks the part. You know, he just gotta. I'm 0:46:11.640 --> 0:46:14.960 you're a believer. You're a believer in his upside. I 0:46:15.080 --> 0:46:16.839 think you have to. I mean you, No, you don't 0:46:16.880 --> 0:46:18.839 have to. I mean I'll put it like this, Yeah, 0:46:19.000 --> 0:46:21.240 I haven't seen enough that makes me believe in his upside. 0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:23.320 The coaches obviously have seen more, and they do believe 0:46:23.360 --> 0:46:25.320 in it. I'm asking you, do you believe in his upside. 0:46:25.400 --> 0:46:28.520 I don't think he's gonna be right now. I can't 0:46:28.560 --> 0:46:30.759 say he's gonna be a great player, but I know this. 0:46:30.960 --> 0:46:32.879 You play football to get better. I mean, you get 0:46:32.920 --> 0:46:36.200 better by playing football, and teams most teams don't have 0:46:36.280 --> 0:46:38.400 the luxury of throwing out a rookie you like that 0:46:38.560 --> 0:46:40.879 to play. He's having to play. I think he's gonna 0:46:41.040 --> 0:46:43.759 benefit from it. My point all along is that's our 0:46:43.960 --> 0:46:45.840 that's our guy that we're talking about. A lot of 0:46:45.880 --> 0:46:48.800 teams wouldn't want to part ways with a young tackle. 0:46:48.880 --> 0:46:50.320 That's all I'm saying I got you all right. We 0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:52.120 appreciate you guys. You going back to borrow. 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