1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Kf I AM six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Welcome everybody, 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: We're on from one to four. You didn't pick up 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: on that. That happened a couple of months ago, but 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: you could always if you can't listen live, pick up 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: the show on the iHeartRadio app or at kf I 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: AM sixty dot com podcasts, or posted right after we 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: finished the show coming up this afternoon at four o'clock. 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: There isn't a Democratic legislator or politician in the state 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: who hasn't blathered endlessly about the need for stricter gun 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: control right every time something bad happens, it's a given 12 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: they parrot the same old, tired slogans. But when Assemblyman 13 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: Bill A. Sailing, a Republican from Corona, introduces a bill 14 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: to restore ten to twenty to life terms firearm and enhancements, 15 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: if you use a gun in the commission of a crime, 16 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: you get you get an enhanced sentence. That's what the 17 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,559 Speaker 1: Salley's bill is about. None of the Democrats will vote 18 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: for it. No, it looks like it's going to die 19 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: in the Assembly Public Safety Committee. I any very strange. 20 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: They all they talk about was getting guns out of 21 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: everyone's hands. But you would think if a criminal is 22 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,199 Speaker 1: using a gun during a horrible crime, that should add time. 23 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: They don't like to add time. There's the crime, and 24 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: then separately, there's a gun enhancement for using a gun 25 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 1: during the crime. And I don't understand how you could 26 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: be squawking constantly about the number of guns in this 27 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: country and the idiocy of the Second Amendment and the 28 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: need for a very tight gun control and not want 29 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: to punish the people who use the guns while they're 30 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: committing the crime. I don't I don't understand this. Yeah, 31 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: you and I have just scratch star heads over this 32 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: now for years. It's a very strange kind of position 33 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: to take, right because what they do is they try 34 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: to everybody tiptoes and dances around what they're reasoning is 35 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: and nobody wants to take them on. Well, let's get 36 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: bill of sale on here to talk about this issue. Well, 37 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: how are you, guys? I'm good, And John, it's it's 38 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: not just any crime. We're talking about enhancements on violent crimes, murder, kidnapping, rape, 39 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: assault with the fire arm on a police officer, and 40 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: lut acts on the child. Those are the crimes we're 41 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: talking about adding enhancements. So if you use a gun 42 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: in the commission of one of those crimes I just listed, 43 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: that's when the enhancements apply. Ten years if you have 44 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: the gun, if you use it, twenty if you discharge 45 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: it in life, if you kill somebody with it. It's 46 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: not controversial. It's gun violence. It's a gun violence bill. 47 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: They don't know what to do with this. Their arguments 48 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: were all over the place today. But let me walk 49 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: you through the history a little bit and then what 50 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: happened today, because I think every California will be outraged 51 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: if they if they understand what happened today. We used 52 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: to have these enhancements on the books, and they work 53 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: really well. They get really bad people off the streets 54 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: and into prison for a really long time where they 55 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: can't hurt other people. Those are facts and you don't 56 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: need a study to know that. So in twenty eighteen 57 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: and their mission to empty the prisons, they passed SB 58 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: six twenty, which gave judges discretion to impose the enhancements. 59 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: So he said, we're going to leave this up to 60 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: the discretion of the judges and you know, they're appointing 61 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: all these activist judges, and so we're gonna put it 62 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: on the judges. The judges are smart, their closest to 63 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: the case, and they can see justice and they'll do 64 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: the right thing. Well, guess what not a lot of 65 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: judges were dismissing the enhancements. So last year Newsom signed 66 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: SB eighty one, which said if a sentence will result 67 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: in twenty years or more in prison, the judge has 68 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: to dismiss the enhancement. They don't have a choice. The 69 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: judge must dismiss it, effectively taking the enhancement away. And 70 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: so today, when I walk through the gun violence stats 71 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: in California since twenty nineteen, homicide, gun gun related homicides 72 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: up fifty two percent, gun related aggravated assaults up sixty 73 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: four percent. I talked about an article from the San 74 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: Francisco Chronicle in which in Oakland, sixty five percent of 75 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 1: the homicide victims are black. Because they keep objecting to 76 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: my bill as racist and wanting to lock up black 77 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: and brown people, which we don't look at people's race 78 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: when we follow cases, and we don't decide who pulls 79 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: the trigger of a gun. We're not involved in that decision. 80 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: We go after conduct and guess who's on the committee. 81 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: The Attorney General's wife, Mia Banta. She was not happy 82 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: that I called out her city in Oakland, and she 83 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: made that very clear on the committee today. What did 84 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: she say. She said that, don't talk to her about 85 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,239 Speaker 1: black moms in her neighborhoods who are losing their kids. 86 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: They're more worried about their kids being locked up forever 87 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: than the stuff I'm talking about today. That's what she 88 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: said to me. And then at the end, doking the 89 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: side of the criminals over the victims. All right, they 90 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: do know that a majority of these victims are black 91 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: and Hispanic, right, especially in Oakland. Fact, that's a very 92 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: inconvenient fact. And I made that a big part of 93 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: my presentation today because the ACLU show up in opposition 94 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: and they're talking about race. I said, let's talk about race, 95 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: let's talk about the victims. And when sixty five percent 96 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: of these homicide victims are black, when black people represent 97 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: fourteen percent of the population, we got a big problem. 98 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: And why are we looking out for the criminals and 99 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: not the innocent victims? Why they don't have a good 100 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: answer to that. So the whole narrative today. What do 101 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: they say, what do they say to keep judicial discretion? 102 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: We need to keep judicial discretion. We've worked so hard 103 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: to get her. And I said, you know what, I 104 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: would love to work with the committee. If that's the position, 105 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: Let's let's give the judges back the discretion. Let's undo 106 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: this SP eighty one, which requires judges to dismiss the 107 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: enhancement if it's twenty years or more. And I got 108 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: blank looks. They didn't know what to say or do. 109 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: And then they as a courtesy, because they're going to 110 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: vote my bill down, I can ask for reconsideration, to 111 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: bring it back with an amendment, to work with them. 112 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: Mia Banta objected, which never happens. It's a professional courtesy 113 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: to let me come back with reconsideration. She objected. And 114 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: the message from and the chairman said, don't talk about 115 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: people's districts. That was the message that was sent today. Well, 116 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: you have to point out the hypocrisy and the damage 117 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: that this woman is doing to her own representatives. I mean, 118 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: these people vote for her in office and then she 119 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: betrays them. So you absolutely believe her. I don't believe 120 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: there's a single mother who's lost a kid to gun violence, 121 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: who's worried about criminals going to prison. I don't believe 122 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: that it's just rhetoric. You know, the game that they're playing. 123 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: They want to unravel the justice system, and they're using 124 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: race as a phony shield because they can't believe what 125 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: they're saying. It's impossible. They know that most of the victims. 126 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: They want to keep the prison population as low as possible. 127 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: They're beating all the bills that might result in any 128 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: extra prison time because they want to keep the prison 129 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: population incredibly low, if not zero their goal now, because 130 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: you know, there's activist groups now that believe in abolishing prisons, 131 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: abolishing police, not just defunding, not just reducing, but abolishing, 132 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: and I don't know why. Also, so it's also I 133 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: get this narrative up here. They talk in generalities. They 134 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: talk about mass incarceration as if we go in and 135 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: round up a bunch of people. That's not how it works. 136 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: Each person's individually charged and brought to court when we 137 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: have a case. Well, that's why, that's why I'm just 138 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: glad you're doing what you're doing, because you've got to 139 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: cut through all this phony rhetoric because they use it 140 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: as a shield to completely derail the conversation and get 141 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: everybody off on some side issue. And the truth is 142 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: they're letting people out of prison or they're not prosecuting 143 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: people who run around killing and harming. And most of 144 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: the victims are already victims. That's the truth, and that's 145 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: got to be repeated over and over again. There's there's black, 146 00:07:54,560 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: Hispanic and everybody else getting harmed and killed because they 147 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: will put bad people away because they're obsessed with skin 148 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: color instead of the behavior of the criminal. We need, 149 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: we need people in these communities to speak out because 150 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: the only people up here are these special interest organizations. 151 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: I had a line of them stand up opposed to 152 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: my bill. I don't know who these people are and 153 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: what groups they are. Those aren't normal people. People want 154 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: to feel safe in their neighborhood. But they need to 155 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: speak up. This place, Sacramento, it is lined with these 156 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: organization and academics and they think it's cool to be woke. 157 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: It's a joke, yeah, I know, Well they're all there's 158 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: a huge network now, it's like a worldwide network, heavily 159 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: funded by a lot of wealthy woke people. And so 160 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: these people are hired and whatever. The radical view of 161 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: the day is, they'll go there and shout and chant 162 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: and disable the justice system. That's that's what they're being 163 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: paid to do. It's outrageous. Well, we're not going to 164 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: let up. And you guys should see what else happen 165 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: at this here. I mean, there was a homeless bill 166 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: they killed. We were trying to keep homeless camps away 167 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: from schools, and the chairman said we should look at 168 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: LA as a model. Oh no, the people were dealing 169 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: with who said that? Reggie joined Sawyer. He's the chairman 170 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: of the Public We're going to call it the Criminal 171 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: Safety Committee because it's not the public from LA. Oh 172 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: he's nuts proud, he's proud of the work they're doing. 173 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna look to them as a model. Oh my god. 174 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: All right, Bill, thank you very much for coming on time. Guys, 175 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 1: thank your assemblyman from Corona Republican. He's got Assembly Bill 176 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: three twenty eight trying to bring back gun enhancement sind 177 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: it looks like it's going to be a loser. By 178 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: how many years have you been dealing with that hole? 179 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: Because we Public Safety Committee, because because you know what 180 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: we got, we got we got to set the terms 181 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: of the debate here. They're are the ones who are 182 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 1: using race as an excuse to have Hispanic and black 183 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: people killed. That's what they're doing. And they're trying to 184 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: hide because they're siding with the killer the ship. That's right, 185 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: they're siding with the killer, and they're using race as 186 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: a cover story. They know the statistics, they know who 187 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: the victims are, and they know who the perpetrators are. 188 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: And what they do is they intimidate everybody by screaming 189 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: racism and get everybody off track and get everybody afraid 190 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: to fight this issue. All right, we got more coming up, 191 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 1: John and Ken kf I AM six forty. We're live 192 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: everywhere the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to John and Ken 193 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: on demand from kf I AM six forty. Can I 194 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: take a minute to publicize a huge irritation I'm dealing 195 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: with currently. In fact, look it just happened again. Uh Well, 196 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: my wife and I we applied for a mortgage and 197 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: somebody in the in the in the chain of paperwork, 198 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: sold our phone numbers and I have thirty eight calls 199 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: now today, thirty eight calls from companies trying to sell 200 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: me a mortgage, and I think they sold the information 201 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: to some spam companies because now I'm getting a lot 202 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: of potential spam messages. And I called back a couple 203 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: of numbers and their dead end numbers. So some jackass 204 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, filling out the title page or the 205 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: mortgage application or whatever, sold our numbers within twenty four hours. 206 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: And I got thirty eight calls and she has just 207 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: as many on our phone. Did you complain to this 208 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: mortgage company? I don't know. Well, yeah, my wife's calling 209 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: and complaining and they're trying to figure out who did 210 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: the dirty deed. Wow, somebody's selling numbers on the side. 211 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: I think you just got to assume that now numbers 212 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: and email addresses are valuable. It's data that these companies 213 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: love to pick up, so they pay for them so 214 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: they can bombard you. Yeah, thirty eight in a day 215 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: and it'll it'll fade off the first day if you 216 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: don't answer. Yeah, it's acme with their best shot. In 217 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: a few days, they'll stop and four texts. God, I 218 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: hate I just hate this world because all this is 219 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: just automatic technology stuff. There's nobody to complain to you. 220 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: I can't even kurge somebody out of the phone. It's 221 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: recorded messages, it's fake people. We are still awaiting a 222 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: verdict from the judge in the trial of two people 223 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: accused of killing a ten year old boy. The Anthony 224 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: Avelo's case from twenty eighteen has been in the hands 225 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 1: of the judge since final arguments ended last week. Heather 226 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: Maxine Baron is the mother. Kareem Ernesto Leva is the 227 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: living boyfriend. They're charged one count each of murder and torture. 228 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: The little boy died on June twenty first, twenty eighteen. 229 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: Were also charged with two counts of child abuse involving 230 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: the kids half siblings. This was a large family. The 231 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: mother had kids with different men, that kind of thing. Anyway, 232 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: it was an ugly situation. They only faced life in 233 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: prison without the possibility of parole because Da George Gascone 234 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: did not want to go with the death penalty. They've 235 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: been found guilty according to Channel seven. Okay, this was 236 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 1: a John had Tommy case. By the way, Deputy d 237 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: John Tommy. Yeah, he's handled a lot of these cases 238 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: and very well, and he's been on our show many 239 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: times with his objections to the policies of George Gascold. 240 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,719 Speaker 1: So good. They've been found guilty on all the kids 241 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: their charges. It was not that many actions. Looking. Channel 242 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: seven just put out a bulletin here, and most of 243 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: this story is just the boilerplate stuff they'd already published. Yeah, 244 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: just came across. But they face a maximum of life 245 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 1: in prison without the possibility of parole. But they actually 246 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: tried to claim that Anthony caused his own injuries by 247 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: throwing himself on the ground and starving himself. Gotta be 248 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 1: kidding me. Yeah, Now, these these are particularly evil people. 249 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: I mean, they should be tortured and killed in prison. 250 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: That's what ought to happen. That's what I hope happens. 251 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: I hope they get tortured and killed prison by the 252 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: other inmates. Tommy called them evil people, deadly together. They 253 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: came up with all these tortured techniques on the boy. 254 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: I just thought they only face life in prison without parole. 255 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 1: There's no death penalty on the table, not that we 256 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: actually anybody. A cute looking boy too. They got photos 257 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: of him here. This is just heartbreaking. This just makes 258 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: you want to become a vigilante. And this is the 259 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: famous case where child Services got involved that's not new. 260 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: They sent Heather Baron to parenting classes. They were hell 261 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: bent on keeping the family together, so they thought parenting 262 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: classes would solve this. Instead, the boy died. And you 263 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: know what the story was. Who the attorney we always 264 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: have on, Brian Claypool. Yeah, he said he thinks that 265 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:42,479 Speaker 1: these La County employees are are so biased against Hispanic 266 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: families that they see too much abuse and they're tired 267 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: of seeing it, and they're all burned out and they're 268 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: numb to it and they don't care. Particularly in the valley. 269 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: This is Lancaster Palma. Several boys died up there. You 270 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: may remember Gabriel Fernandez was also murdered. Uh. And then 271 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: there was a little Noah Quatro who was killed by 272 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: his parents Palmdale. It's a whole run of these stories. 273 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: I mean, they they this is six stuff. They wouldn't 274 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: feed him, no food or water. They beat him repeatedly. 275 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: They forced him to kneel on rice on a concrete floor. 276 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: Who thinks of that? Like, who all the terrorist groups 277 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: think of stuff like that? You try doing that? That 278 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: hurts spray hot sauce. Nothing I've done that, but I 279 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: could imagine it hurts I'm gonna ask you, not really, 280 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: I don't kneel on rice very often, but hot sauce 281 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: in his face, whipped him all over his body, dropped 282 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: him on his head repeatedly. And this is a sick pair. 283 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: So he died of starvation, dehydration, blunt force trauma, chronic 284 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: child abuse, torture. That's that's just one of the most 285 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: vicious stories you'll you'll ever you'll ever see. And the 286 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: mother does this, the mother, I mean, that violates every 287 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: law of nature that I've familiar with. Oh, she's particularly evil. 288 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: It says here that John Hatammy argued that the boy 289 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: was left on the floor of this mother's home for 290 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: about two days following about two weeks of abuse. She 291 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: concealed the boyfriend's involvement and coached the boys two half 292 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: siblings on what they should say to the police and investigators. 293 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: Unbelievable because they were also charged with abusing some of 294 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: the half siblings in the household. This was a pretty 295 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: big household where all the kids were abused. But unfortunately, 296 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: Anthony Avelos was picked out for the worst of it 297 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: and he died. All right, We got more coming up 298 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: on The John and Ken Show. Kf I AM six forty. 299 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: We're live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to John 300 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: and Ken on demand from KFI AM sixty. Yeah. Can 301 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: I a bitch about something for a minute? Thirty nine 302 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: calls now from those mortgage companies? Thirty nine? Yeah, you 303 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: block me too, right? What I'm gonna have to just 304 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what to do. I feel 305 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: like I got a virus in my phone. Now, well, 306 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: you know you can. You can put them in the 307 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: block part of your phone. The phone numbers here. Yeah, 308 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: I know. Only you only get the phone to ring 309 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: when it's people, you know, when you're Yeah, I know 310 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: it's getting tedious, but I gotta do that something like 311 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: that anyway. Uh oh, dippity doo is back in California. 312 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: The Governor Gavin Newsom returned on Sunday from Cabo. Isn't 313 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: that nice? But I'm not one of those people. You 314 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: know how you think it's stupid that politicians have to 315 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: visit the scenes of tragedies. Yeah, you find that. I 316 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: find it's stupid that people are upset because the politician 317 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: takes a trip. I don't really care that there's all 318 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: these headlines well, we go the state of emergency with 319 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: snow and the governor left the state. Well, this is 320 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: gonna two for one because he got laying around in 321 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: Cabo while the people were starting. What is he gonna do? 322 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: Go up there with a shovel? Can you serious? Can 323 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: you see? Can you see him doing that? Well, he 324 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 1: has gone to what he tried to covering up graffiti right, 325 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: do a couple and he was picking up trash along 326 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 1: the railroad track. Slash Sure, for like thirty seconds for 327 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: a photoop. But I'd like to see him do twelve 328 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: hours of snow shoveling. But where he is a ninny 329 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: and he's kind of impetuous. He's spontaneous, and he was 330 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: trying to get some attention yesterday by basically telling everybody 331 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: on Twitter that California won't be doing business with Walgreens 332 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: or any company that cowers to extremists and puts women's 333 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: lives at risk. We're done. So after the tweet came out, 334 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,959 Speaker 1: as political reporters will do, it's like, oh Neoso tweeted, 335 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: we got to examine this. Well, most of them scratch 336 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: their head and said, what does it mean that we're 337 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: not doing business with Walgreens doesn't really make any sense, 338 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,239 Speaker 1: so it looked like just a cheap They call it 339 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: a rage tweet, something to sent out to get attention, 340 00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: to get a headline, to ingratiate himself with certain graphics. 341 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: Right in case you don't know what the story is 342 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: behind this, the chain announced that they're not going to 343 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: ship abortion medication to at least twenty states across the US, 344 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: which I actually think is wrong. But you know, they're 345 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: a private business. They don't like it, don't go there. Well, anyway, 346 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: these are like the morning after pills. Yeah, because these 347 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: are states that don't like any form of abortion, early stage, 348 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 1: late stage, any stage. So yeah, because Republicans are putting 349 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: pressure on retailers to cut off abortion pills in their states. Right, So, 350 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: I don't know how anybody could get wrapped up in 351 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 1: these issues. I really don't. So reporters, we're asking Newsom's office, well, 352 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: what do you mean California has done with Walgreens? What 353 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: does that mean? They didn't get a response for a while, 354 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: and then eventually we're now reviewing all relationships between Walgreens 355 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: and the state, including medical and covered California contracts. But 356 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: you don't want to cut off account people from But 357 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: if Walgreens is the only pharmacy down the streets and 358 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: that's where they get their medications or whatever else, they 359 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 1: can't do that right now. Medical would be idiotic. Medical 360 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: is not going to pay for prescriptions coming from Walgreens. 361 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: Something like that is all we can make of this. 362 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: He's not going to do that. He's really aren't that 363 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: many pharmacies left. I don't think people understand how stupid 364 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: he is. He's a stupid knee jerk. He hasn't thought 365 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: this through. He has well, even his progressive cronies in 366 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: the media couldn't figure this one out. No, in fact, 367 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: this is shocking. This isn't an La Times news story 368 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: by tarn Luna. I couldn't believe I read this next 369 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: to last paragraph. Newsom has a tendency to seize on 370 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: hot button political issues and make attention grabbing announcements before 371 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: he's determined how the state will carry out his plan. 372 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: Oh when she mentions that windfall profits attacks on the 373 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: oil companies that he announced last fall and they can't 374 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: even figure out how to do that? Did that one 375 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: get by the editor? She actually pointed out the obvious 376 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 1: truth he's a buffoon. He just blurts things out. You know, 377 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: I guarantee you'll see that. His bad on gas powered 378 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: vehicles in twenty thirty five is another one of these. 379 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: He blurts things out to make him look really cool. 380 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: He's a leader, he's an innovator, he's visionary, but he's 381 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: never thought through the consequences of this, whether any of 382 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: this is practical or wise, or has any any unintended drawbacks. 383 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: And he does the default kind of dumb. He jumps 384 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: on what's like supposed to be the big national party issue. 385 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: So a woman's right to choose, what can I say 386 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,479 Speaker 1: about that? Meanwhile, Californians here, I mean yesterday, they had 387 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: a hearing before the Public Utilities Commission. So Calgas they 388 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 1: want and San Diego gas Electric they want huge rate increases. 389 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: They want five billion dollars in additional revenue from customers 390 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: over the next four years. People are hurting in this 391 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: state gas for their car to natural gas for their homes, 392 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: and this oath is out there tweeting about abortion pills 393 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: in other states. Seriously, he's obsessed with baby killing. He 394 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: really is. He's the most irrelevant governor we've had in 395 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 1: a long time. He completely just veers off on his 396 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: own path for his own purposes, because he thinks this 397 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: is going to raise his national profile on a key 398 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: issue that matters to national voters. You notice it, it's 399 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: a tweet. He's out of the country. Nobody can challenge 400 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: him and say, well, what is this effect specifically, because 401 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: he wouldn't know. He wouldn't know how to answer, because 402 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: he never thought this through. He doesn't know what what 403 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: what relationships or contracts California has with Walgreens. He probably 404 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: never thought about that medical recipients are going to get 405 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: a lot of medications from from Walgreens. Right. He's such 406 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: a dumb clock. I mean, he really is. I like 407 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: this yesterday to hear ring this is so Cal Gas 408 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: and San Diego Gas and Electric trying to ask the 409 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: Public Utilities Commission for these outrageous rate hikes. Apparently most 410 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 1: of the public response was angry gas customers, But it 411 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: says here in the time story several callers appeared to 412 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 1: read from scripts on behalf of business groups supporting the 413 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: rate increases. What's the payoff there? Why would a business 414 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 1: group has to pay for natural gas high rates too? 415 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: Why would they support the rate increase. Everything is like organized, scripted, choreographed. 416 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: Oh that's why hearings are usually just they were a joke. 417 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: It is all choreographed, It is all made up. It's 418 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: just nonsense, and nothing ever comes of it besides some 419 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: politicians getting on a platform and just screeching for an hour. 420 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: With with With the internet and social media, there's all 421 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: these heavily funded activist groups for every freaking issue on 422 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: the planet, and and they show up anywhere there's a 423 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: TV ammer, anywhere there's a news feed, and they get involved. 424 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: And the stupid morons in the news they just write 425 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: down whatever any warm body says. And they don't know 426 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: if these people, they don't care if these people are 427 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: paid scripted. All right, we got more to come. John 428 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 1: and Ken kf I AM six forty. We're live everywhere 429 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: on the iHeart Radio Act. You're listening to John and 430 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: Ken on demand from kf I AM sixty. For what 431 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: it's worth, listeners, believe that what happened was your mortgage 432 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 1: company will run a credit check and that opens the 433 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: door to everyone else to realize you're looking for a 434 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: mortgage and the bottom feeders will drive you nuts with 435 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: the calls in the town, and they're all connected to 436 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: my phone number. I guess so somehow running the credit check. 437 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, somehow I don't know if the phone 438 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: number is revealed in that or whether or not they 439 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: just run your name and they find a phone number 440 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: with your name as they now know you're seeking a mortgage. 441 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 1: Now I've gotten I've gotten forty calls since eight this morning. 442 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: That's what two listeners have said. An email said happened 443 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: to them, and that's probably the reason why that Maybe 444 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: nobody to mortgage. Somebody sold your number, but because they 445 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: ran a credit check. The people that some mortgages know 446 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: this what a stupid world, as they jump right on it. No, well, yeah, 447 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: well you're not getting you're not getting my mortgage money. 448 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 1: You're not getting my business. Of course, I'm arguing with 449 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: an algorithm, a computer. What are you moving or are 450 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: you buying another home or something? Or I bought the 451 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: place next to you. I'm your new neighbor, but not 452 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: for sale. I know the people there, not for sale. 453 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: You'll see. Why don't you move next to Debrah Marra. Yeah, 454 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: but he wouldn't slum in the West, anyone slum it 455 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: where I am either. So it's got to stay with 456 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: the snooty coffee drink in West Siders. Siago bagel run. Yeah, 457 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: all the Ostiago ladies with their extra large Starbuck coffees. Well, 458 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: here's the story, en. It means they're on to keep 459 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: themselves thin. Here's a story that's gotten a lot of 460 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: the tension today. It's crazy people on the airplane. We 461 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: have a report from NBC Boston Oscar Margaine. This is 462 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: about the flight a United flight that was headed from 463 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: lax to Boston. It ends up with a guy who 464 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,479 Speaker 1: apparently broke a spoon and tried to use it as 465 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: a knife to stamb a flight attendant that he was 466 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: opening or trying to open an emergency exit door. Let's listen. 467 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: This man has been identified as thirty three year old 468 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: francisco An. Investigators say that he allegedly trying to or 469 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: became belligerent towards the end of a six hour flight 470 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: on Sunday from Los Angeles to Boston's Logan Airport. I 471 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: will kill every man on the plane. Where Gary Now? 472 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: That was Torres captured on cell phone video after the threats. 473 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 1: Torres has then seen moving from his seat to the 474 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: aisle holding what investigators say it is a broken metal spoon, 475 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: which he then allegedly used to stab a flight attendant 476 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: three times in the neck very quickly, which was kind 477 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: of the amazing part of the whole thing. So many 478 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: men on that plane just got up and you went 479 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: right after him. Now. United Airlines later released a statement 480 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: saying that the flight landed safely and was met by 481 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: law enforcement. No serious injuries were reported. We have zero 482 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: tolerance for any type of violence on our flights, and 483 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: this customer will be banned from flying on United pending 484 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: an investigation. End quote. Now Das is expected to face 485 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 1: judge again on Thursday. If convicted, he could spend the 486 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: rest of his life in prison. Did you see this guy? 487 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: I did. He looks like a terrorist. He never should 488 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: really mad and crazy. He should have never been allowed 489 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: on the plane. You know. He's got these beady eyes 490 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 1: popping out of his skull. He's got the terrorist beard 491 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: going on. He's got one of those stupid beaties, which 492 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: that's a sign of an a hole right there, the beanie. 493 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: And this is not two thousand and one. We're not 494 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: throwing people off planes because they fit your profile. Oh 495 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: they should though, I would have been right if I 496 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: saw that guys, but one million other guys boarding the plane. 497 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying that guy's trouble. He's gonna cause trouble. He's 498 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: gonna break a spoon, and he's gonna go try to 499 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 1: kill a flight attendant stabber in the neck. She could 500 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 1: have easily could have killed somebody. You get, you get 501 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: the karate in artery with the edge of the spoon. 502 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: How come this happens after they get on the plane. 503 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: Wouldn't they act up in the waiting area or at 504 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: the gate where their bag or they're going to check 505 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: for security, or they hold it all in until they 506 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: get on the plane and the plane is actually was 507 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: getting close to Boston when this guy went into this rage. 508 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: He sounded like he's a schizophrenic. He was trying to 509 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: open an emergency exit door, and as you heard, he 510 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: took a I guess they still give out metal spoons 511 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: because he broke one trying to turn it into a knife. 512 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: That'll be the last metal spoon handed out on the 513 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: United for Yeah. I didn't know whether whether what section 514 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: he was in. One passenger said he was visibly upset. 515 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: He was saying he was Balthazar that his father was 516 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: Dracula and he was going to kill all the men 517 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: on the plane. Yeah, no, he's having a psychotic break. 518 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: He's probably got schizophrenia. And he was playing with the 519 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: door and it was open like uh like the handle 520 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: was moved A course slide attendant to check the door 521 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: and found out the doors locking handle had been moved 522 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: out of place, right, and then he was moving into 523 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: the disarmed position and he was playing with the slide too. Yeah, 524 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: what if happens if he was successful? Do you want 525 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: to jump out or I don't know. I mean, the 526 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: way the mechanism works, you can't open it in midflight, 527 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: right right, shouldn't be able to know because if somebody did, 528 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: everybody gets sucked out of the plane. But you hear 529 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: them when they're about to take off arm the doors, 530 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: which means they're gonna lock all the doors in. But 531 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: it did. I've never I always thought that they ought 532 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: to have one armed guard on every flight. Oh well, 533 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: you mean like an air marshall kind of guy, And yeah, yeah, 534 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: they did that after nine to eleven. But yeah, I know, 535 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: but I think every every flight on a half one 536 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: of those guys because all these stupid bureaucratic, corporate bastard's gone. 537 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: Passenger safety is our our, our top priority. It's like, well, no, 538 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: it's not, because if somebody goes nuts on a plane, 539 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: there's no way to stop him. You just got to 540 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: hope the other guys on the plane are a courageous 541 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: enough to tackle him and are willing to risk getting 542 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: badly hurt themselves. That's not the way it should be. 543 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: It should be a guy in uniform sitting in a 544 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: in the front seat and everybody can see he's got 545 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: a loaded weapon. I like the way people who of 546 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: course got their phones out took videos, like everybody's armed 547 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: with a phone. They a weird society we have. I'll 548 00:30:55,240 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: stop him. Stop, I've got a phone. They Yeah. He 549 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: started ramping from his seat. Then he moved out into 550 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: the aisle and he said, I gotta take over the plane. 551 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: Ah yeah, just I just can't. I can't imagine. But 552 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: passengers stepped up. They tackled him to the ground. I mean, 553 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: we now know from nine to eleven, Yeah, that's gonna happen. 554 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: I don't care how many terrorists are on a plane. 555 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: If you have a hundred passengers, you could overwhelm somebody. Yeah, 556 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: somebody might get stabbed in the neck, but I saw 557 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: long You've got You can't wait and let these people 558 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: take charge of a plane. Don't let that happen. I'm 559 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: first one up, I'm running right after this guy. Well, 560 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: maybe not first, because that's the one I showed the 561 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: long verse. The second guy up. Yeah, right, you go first, Yeah, 562 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: right on. One person gets for me, because you have 563 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: to also know what you're doing right. You have to. 564 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: If you're gonna do it, you gotta do it right. 565 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: You gotta tackle him, get him to the ground, not 566 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: screw it up so he stabs you in the neck 567 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: or stabs the poor flight attendant to the neck. Right. 568 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: You can't be somebody who makes it worse because you 569 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: know you're a bumbling fool. The TSA would not say 570 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: if there was an air marshal on the flight for 571 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: security reasons. TSA will not confirm the deployment of federal 572 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: air marshals on flights. They're trained to address a wide 573 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: array of risks in the aircraft, the flight crew and 574 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: the passengers. Yeah, well that's the only thing about it. 575 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: How Come, how come? How come nobody from the flight 576 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: crew subdued this guy. He was standing up and screaming 577 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: for a while. I saw the longer tape of him yelling, 578 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, oh my god. You know, if I 579 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: was on that plane, my wife was on that plane, 580 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: I can't imagine how how terrified she'd be. And well 581 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: maybe they first they thought it was just somebody who 582 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: was frightened of travel of airplanes. It was just acting 583 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: up in his eyes, manic episode or is You can 584 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: always tell him the eyes never should have been allowed 585 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: on board. Thirty three year old man from Massachusetts. Leo 586 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: Minster is where he's from, so he was flying back 587 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: it looks like to Boston. I don't know if there's 588 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: any family or anybody making any statements, but this is 589 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: a serious crime. If they really go after him, he 590 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: can be charged and be put away for a long time, 591 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: and this will be a federal case, which is always better. Yeah, 592 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: and invented das and it's on video too, So there's 593 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: there's no way defense attorney's going to get him off, 594 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: all right. Defense attorney's kind of claimed that he probably 595 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: has some mental illness. We're sorry, but you know, he 596 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: was just having an episode and he'll never do it. Again. 597 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: They should have pushed him out of a plane. All right, 598 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: we got more comping up. Johnny kN k if I 599 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: AM six forty live everywhere, the Yard Radio app, Jepermark 600 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: live in the twenty four Cafe newsroom. Hey, you've been 601 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,959 Speaker 1: listening to the John and Ken Show. 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