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Speaker 1: The Volume Football Championship that should always do the expectation.

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Speaker 2: All right, man, at you go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Richard Sherman Podcast. Another day, another wild

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Speaker 1: Card wild game upset, kind of, I mean not by seeding,

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Speaker 1: but by record. A fourteen win Minnesota team goes into

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Speaker 1: Phoenix to play the La Rams, and the LA Rams

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Speaker 1: have their way. Their defense takes a page out of

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Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn's playbook and puts a lot of pressure on

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald to the tune of nine sacks in the game.

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Speaker 1: They come away with a twenty seven to nine victory.

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Speaker 1: Great game by matt Stafford and their offense. Really rough

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Speaker 1: game by Sam Donald in their offense. TJ Hawkinson and

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Speaker 1: those boys. But Mitchell, did you see this coming?

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Speaker 3: Because Richard, I'm telling you I kind of had a

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Speaker 3: gut instinct here that Matthew Stafford's not done yet.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this LA Rams team's a lot more locked

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Speaker 3: and loaded that I think they're giving credit for. And

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Speaker 3: they've come on strong late in the season, much like

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Speaker 3: they did last year. Matthew Stafford's tough man, and I

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Speaker 3: know they were not playing in LA but they had

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Speaker 3: They were very motivated coming into this game. With everything

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Speaker 3: going on in La. Prayers for La right now. But Richard,

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Speaker 3: I mean you got to think about how motivated they

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Speaker 3: were to put on for their city, and they did

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Speaker 3: just that from start to finish.

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Speaker 2: Today, I'm sure happy.

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Speaker 3: I was a little bummed out the Commanders won because,

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Speaker 3: you know, Richard, I was looking forward to hopefully taking

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Speaker 3: on the Vikings again. But I'm so happy that Detroit

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Speaker 3: Lions do not have to face this team in round

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Speaker 3: two because that matchup against the Eagles is going to

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Speaker 3: be a while one. Let's look at this game, rich

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Speaker 3: because as good as Sam Donald has been all season,

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Speaker 3: he's looked equally bad the last two games. Oh boy,

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Speaker 3: I mean, Richard, what went wrong for Sam Donald tonight?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: Everything everything that could go wrong? It was what do

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Speaker 1: they call it, Murphy's law? Everything that could go wrong

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Speaker 1: went wrong for Sam Donald in the Minnesota Vikings. What

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Speaker 1: I think happened, Mitchell, What I think happened is they

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Speaker 1: watched the Detroit Lions and Aaron Glenn's playing, and Aaron

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Speaker 1: Glenn had a decimated defensive line just like had a

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Speaker 1: rag tag defense, you know, so beat up, so injured,

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Speaker 1: and he said, you know what, all we can do

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Speaker 1: And they did that, and then Chris Shula comes in,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure watches that tape and says, why not, why not,

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Speaker 1: let's split them, Let's blit them to all hell. And

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Speaker 1: sometimes they didn't even need to blitz because they had

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Speaker 1: Jared Verse and Jared was getting home and a lot

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Speaker 1: of their d line was winning one on ones Kello

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Speaker 1: down in a lot of detail, because I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 1: I know what he was doing and what he was

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Speaker 1: thinking on that play, and it was an incredibly heady play.

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Speaker 1: Balls he played one of those plays that you know

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Speaker 1: it's feast or famine. Either he gets the sack on

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Speaker 1: huge game. And big time players make big time plays

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Speaker 1: in big time game, no hesitation, no hesitation. Big play

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Speaker 1: was made. But the Vikings defense, they didn't have answers

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Speaker 1: they didn't have answers for Higbee. He was open a

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Speaker 1: that book was clean. They were playing a lot of

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Speaker 1: two man. They're not worried about Sam Donald running the football,

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Speaker 1: and it just worked out. And sometimes the lack of

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Speaker 1: burden of expectations, it's so much it paralyzes you.

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Speaker 2: It paralyzes you, it tightens you up.

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Speaker 1: But the team that's playing it on house money, the

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Speaker 1: And now, sure you have the Tampa game that they

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Speaker 1: I think Sam Donald calls himself some money. It's been

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Speaker 1: the question, how did the Minnesota Vikings see him? Is

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Speaker 1: he the long term answer in Minnesota? Or do you

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Speaker 1: Free agency starts in March?

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Speaker 2: What do you do?

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Speaker 1: I think they at least have Sam Donald for another year,

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Speaker 1: But what does that look like? Contract wise? What is

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Speaker 3: I will caution you with that, Richard. I mean as

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Speaker 3: Sam Donald. I mean, how much do you think Sam

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Speaker 3: Donald owes his success to the offensive weapons that are

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Speaker 1: I think it's tough because because yes, Justin Jefferson is

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Speaker 1: I'm sure Kevin, Kevin O'Connell and Justin Jefferson and all

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Speaker 1: And he goes he's healthy, he comes in there off

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald walk make a lot of money in free agency.

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Speaker 1: But if you think, hey, we want to run it

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Speaker 1: But you know, I don't call the I don't make

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Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about the la Rams. They deserve to

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Speaker 3: be a part of this conversation. After that performance tonight, Richard,

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Speaker 3: do you view them as as a true Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: You have to.

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Speaker 1: Their defense played really good football. Uh Kello Witherspoon for

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Speaker 2: And everybody talked.

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Speaker 2: But if he plays like that.

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Speaker 1: In a game against the La Rams and Stafford gets

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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford has played so much football he's seen Vic Fangiol.

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Speaker 1: that's how much football he's played. Vic Fangiol was with

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Speaker 1: Rams in the NFC Championship, Ye, Mitchell, it's fright.

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Speaker 1: It's not the way the defensive coordinator drew it up

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Speaker 2: Richard.

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Speaker 3: play a little bit. I mean, what was Pete's reaction

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean I had to tackle, and you know, they

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about the Dallas Cowboys. We had some news break.

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Speaker 3: I don't really want to call it breaking news because

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Speaker 3: I don't think it really comes with much of a shock,

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Speaker 3: but Mike McCarthy was let go, which opens the floodgates

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Speaker 1: Things are playing out in a way that makes it

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Speaker 1: But then they don't, and then they fire him. I said, look,

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Speaker 2: Fire him, dick move.

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Speaker 1: But then to wait this long and not be in

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Speaker 1: And that's the part I don't get unless you're telling

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Speaker 3: Mitchell? I think it's prime the way you painted that picture. Richard,

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Speaker 2: Richard.

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Speaker 3: You know, Jerry Jones is one of the staples in

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Speaker 3: things with Dion Sanders to the Cowboys, I'm fully on

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Speaker 3: board with that, But the question is do you think

436
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Speaker 3: it'd be a good fit. I mean, is that gonna

437
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Speaker 3: bring wins to Dallas?

438
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Speaker 2: Maybe?

439
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Speaker 1: But the wins, I don't think we're the problem. Like,

440
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Speaker 1: and I know I'm I was tough on Mike McCarthy

441
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Speaker 1: as anybody, but I've said this too. There are very

442
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Speaker 1: few coaches that have won as many games as Mike

443
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Speaker 1: McCarthy in the last five years. I think it's Andy Reid,

444
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 1: I think Sirianni, maybe Kyle Shanahan.

445
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Speaker 2: Like all the guys.

446
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Speaker 1: That have won more than than Mike McCarthy have probably

447
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Speaker 1: been to a Super Bowl or been to an NFC

448
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Speaker 1: Championship game, and he just hasn't had the playoff success,

449
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Speaker 1: which leads to criticism. That's it's it's welcome, it's it's

450
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Speaker 1: what comes with the job. Hey, you win in twelve

451
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Speaker 1: games every year, thirteen games, but then you get to

452
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Speaker 1: the playoffs and do I need to start the song? No,

453
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Speaker 1: you guys already know it. Vision and done, the visional

454
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Speaker 1: and done. But do I think that Dion would come

455
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Speaker 1: in and push them over twelve and five or thirteen

456
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Speaker 1: and four?

457
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Speaker 2: Probably not, you know what I mean. I don't think.

458
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Speaker 1: I don't know if he could push him further than

459
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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy did record wise. Now, what I do think

460
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Speaker 1: he would be able to do is put butts in

461
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Speaker 1: the seats like you thought they were a draw before.

462
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: When Prime gets there, you've never well, we've never seen it.

463
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Speaker 1: I don't think we've seen it yet. We've not seen

464
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Speaker 1: fans come wearing the coaches jersey. There'll be more fans

465
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Speaker 1: in these stadiums wearing the coaches jersey. Then there will

466
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Speaker 1: be the players jersey. And that's everybody included. I mean,

467
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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott might have a couple, but they're gonna be

468
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Speaker 1: in that pro shop. It's gonna be Sanders twenty one's

469
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Speaker 1: being sold. If he's the head coach and they're gonna

470
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Speaker 1: sell out, I just don't know if it's a it's up,

471
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And that's what I That's

472
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Speaker 1: what I'm concerned about for any coach that goes to

473
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Speaker 1: coach the Dallas Cowboys right now that's a tough act

474
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Speaker 1: to follow, Like that's a lot of wins over four

475
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Speaker 1: or five year year span. Now you didn't have the

476
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Speaker 1: playoff success, which is the ultimate success that defines a

477
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Speaker 1: coach his legacy and does all that.

478
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Speaker 2: But regular season.

479
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Speaker 1: He did phenomenal, built good offenses, The offenses succeeds, solid defenses,

480
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Speaker 1: had multiple dbs with nine to ten interceptions. Deron Bland

481
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: was having crazy years. Trevon Diggs was playing great, which

482
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Speaker 1: means I mean al Harris, al Harris. I look for

483
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Speaker 1: him to get a hit head coaching interview or a

484
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Speaker 1: DC's interview, like he did a great job with those

485
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Speaker 1: guys in Dallas. But that's the part that concerns me,

486
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Speaker 1: is anybody gonna be able to live up to what

487
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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy did, because otherwise they're gonna get fired in

488
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Speaker 1: two years. And so that would be my concern with

489
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Speaker 1: Dehon if he can't turn it around, Because now you

490
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Speaker 1: have to deal with the big contracts of CD Lamb,

491
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Speaker 1: the big contract to Dak Prescott, the big contract for

492
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Speaker 1: Micah Parsons, the big contract for Trey Diggs. So it

493
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Speaker 1: changes the way you build a roster. It limits your

494
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Speaker 1: resources and sure there will be guys that take pay

495
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Speaker 1: cuts to maybe play for Dion, but not that great

496
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Speaker 1: and not taken half. And so that's the part that

497
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Speaker 1: concerns me. And then again, Dion has only he's only

498
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Speaker 1: coached his son at quarterback for a long time now.

499
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Speaker 1: He has not coached another quarterback for a long time,

500
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Speaker 1: and he won't be able to coach his son in Dallas.

501
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 1: The Dak Prescott is going to be the quarterback for

502
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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys for the foreseeable future. There's no trade

503
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Speaker 1: partner I think that'll take him. There's no out of

504
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Speaker 1: this contract anytime soon. And I don't think there's any

505
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Speaker 1: world where you draft sha Door Sanders with your first

506
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Speaker 1: round pick if you're the Dallas Cowboys, and if it,

507
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Speaker 1: you know, with everything being said, he should be gone

508
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Speaker 1: within the top five picks. So that's where it doesn't

509
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Speaker 1: make as much sense for Dion to take take the

510
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Speaker 1: job in my opinion, but for speculatory purposes makes all

511
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Speaker 1: the sense in the world.

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Speaker 2: I love it. I love it well, Richard.

513
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Speaker 3: We have a final eight in the NFL playoffs. The

514
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Speaker 3: Commanders are taken on the Lions. This guy, Jayden daniels

515
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Speaker 3: Man he's future star, Richard. I mean, we might be

516
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 3: talking to NFL MVP in the next five years with

517
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Speaker 3: this guy. The way he plays in the pocket and

518
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Speaker 3: is able to scramble. I mean, he plays this game

519
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 3: wise beyond his years. How much of a threat do

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Speaker 3: you think he can be to an injured and batter

521
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Speaker 3: Detroit Lions team.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a challenge because it has to be contained, contained, contained,

523
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Speaker 1: and some of the things he does you can't simulate.

524
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Speaker 1: You know, they're gonna have to put a receiver or

525
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Speaker 1: a dB at quarterback just to give you an idea

526
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Speaker 1: of the kind of speed that you're gonna be dealing

527
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Speaker 1: with in dynamic elusiveness that you're gonna be dealing with

528
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Speaker 1: at the quarterback position. And it's a little easier when

529
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Speaker 1: you got tape that of your team going against him.

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Speaker 1: You have the tape of you dealing with him at

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Speaker 1: times or somebody, you know what I mean, a plan.

532
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Speaker 1: And now he has gotten stopped at times, like people

533
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Speaker 1: have had success stopping him, but not a lot and

534
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: not lately. And so that's the part that concerns me,

535
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Speaker 1: is that if they can consistently stop him and this

536
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Speaker 1: ends up being a shootout and just like with the

537
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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers, if he gets the ball last and

538
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: he's only down three, he's gonna win. And that's what

539
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: he's shown. I mean, I think he has the most

540
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: fourth quarter first downs and touchdowns of just about any quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And whether it's rushing or passing, like, he finds a

542
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Speaker 1: way to make winning plays in the fourth quarter consistently,

543
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: and his team knows it and his team believes it.

544
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Speaker 1: So when you have an unwavering belief in faith, it's powerful.

545
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: It's powerful for a team, and it allows guys to

546
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: unlock their true potential. And defensively, that defense is playing better.

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Speaker 1: You got veterans who have been there, done that. Bobby Wagner,

548
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Speaker 1: friend of the program, been there, done that. Hey got

549
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: Super Bowls, been to Super Bowls, been eleven times straight

550
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Speaker 1: All Pro And people are like, oh, he's getting it

551
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: from name. Where you think the name came from, it's synonymous.

552
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Speaker 1: I think there's only two or three people with more

553
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Speaker 1: All Pros than Bobby in the history of the National

554
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Speaker 1: Football League. He's talking about a Hall of Famers, Hall

555
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: of Famer, like you're talking about a goats goough And

556
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: I don't care how much you watch football, how much

557
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: you appreciate football. You have to appreciate the greatness of

558
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Speaker 1: a player like Bobby Wagner, what he's been able to

559
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Speaker 1: sustain as long as he has in different places. Went

560
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Speaker 1: to the Rams for a year. All Pro came back

561
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Speaker 1: to Seattle. They said, I love him, Welcome home, all

562
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Speaker 1: bro Hey, Seattle were moving on new direction, new coach,

563
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: commanders Hey, dan Quinn, Bobby old friend, Kenny Norton, I

564
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: love you to death. Back home, back together, All Pro

565
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Speaker 1: like he's a guy in this defense, rallies behind him,

566
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Speaker 1: lou Fu. There's a number of guys. They got guys

567
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: that believe in, that play hard and that really make plays.

568
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: I think she and the safety he plays hard, he

569
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Speaker 1: makes plays. Last week it was Latimore Latimore against Mike

570
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Speaker 1: Evans was a big storyline in Mike had a really

571
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: good game, but a Lottimore and his defense didn't just

572
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Speaker 1: enough to squeak out the win.

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Speaker 2: Because they kept fighting and they kept believing.

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Speaker 1: And the reason they kept believing is because they knew

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Speaker 1: if their offense got the ball last and had a

576
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Speaker 1: chance and it was twenty to twenty, oh, I know

577
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Speaker 1: they felt great. Mitchell I knew they felt like they

578
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: could go out there and win that game, and he did.

579
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Speaker 1: He made plays, whether it's with his legs or his arms.

580
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Speaker 1: And just like the Detroit Lions, they go for it

581
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Speaker 1: on fourth down. They go for it consistently on fourth down.

582
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Speaker 1: And I don't think they hesitate. I think they're the

583
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Speaker 1: most efficient fourth down team in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: It's got to beat them in Detroit right there, one

585
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: and two. But that's what scares me about this matchup, Mitchell,

586
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: because they they don't know they shouldn't be there.

587
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Does that make sense? Well, Richard?

588
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 3: I mean this team, we talked about it in our

589
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 3: season intro said, if Jaden Daniels plays at the level

590
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Speaker 3: that CJ. Strouded last year, this team could be very

591
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 3: competitive and could sweak into the playoffs. And here they are.

592
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Speaker 2: You know.

593
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Speaker 3: The one thing when you analyze this matchup. As good

594
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Speaker 3: as the Commanders are offensively and as good as they

595
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 3: are at certain position position groups defensively, where they lack

596
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 3: is in the defense run game. I mean, their run

597
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 3: defense ranks one of the worst in the league. And

598
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 3: when you go against a team like the Detroit Lions

599
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 3: that lean heavily on their run game, and they do

600
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Speaker 3: it from a bunch of different ways, and they're getting

601
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Speaker 3: David Montgomery back. Like, how big of advantage is that

602
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 3: matchup for the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 1: That's huge advantage and that may be the advantage, the

604
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: winning advantage for the Detroit Lions, because it does a

605
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: number of things. It keeps Jaydon Daniels off the field,

606
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: and you're running the ball, you're controlling it. And one

607
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: thing about the Washington Commanders, they have long drives. It

608
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: takes them a long time to get there. They had

609
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: they had a seventeen play drive the other day and

610
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: I think it took nine minutes, you know, seventeen plays,

611
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: Like that's a long time to get to the end zone.

612
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: And so if somehow the Lions, you know, are doing

613
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: their meticulous just run it five yards of pop, Jamira

614
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: Gibbs pops one, then the defense gets to stop and

615
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: they go up fourteen points, ten fourteen points, it becomes

616
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: a really difficult game for the Washington Comanders to play

617
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: because they do not score quick. They're not a quick

618
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: strike offense. Really, they take time. They didn't and dunk sometimes.

619
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Speaker 1: He's very very accurate and very efficient with the football,

620
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: but he doesn't take a ton of risks. He's not

621
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Speaker 1: gonna put the ball in harm's way if he can

622
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: help it. So, if the Detroit Lions are playing great defense,

623
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Speaker 1: and they're playing the way they have all year defensively,

624
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Speaker 1: if their corners are playing as good of man coverage

625
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: as they have been under Aaron Glenn, it's gonna be

626
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: very small windows and it's gonna be up to Jason Daniels'

627
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: legs to get it done. And I just I'm worried

628
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: that if Detroit gets up and they're able to control

629
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Speaker 1: the clock running the ball, that he will run out

630
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Speaker 1: of time in this game.

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Speaker 3: Well, Richard, the Lions finally, for the first time in

632
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 3: their franchise in history, have the one seed and earn

633
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Speaker 3: a first round. By how big is that bye week

634
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 3: for them? I mean, you've played with so many different

635
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 3: teams Seattle and San Francisco where you earned that first round.

636
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 3: By how big is it to have that bye week

637
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 3: this late in the season and be able to see

638
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 3: who you're playing with battle it out the weekend before.

639
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: It's really important. It's really important, and it's interesting because

640
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: some people think it's tough you know, if you look

641
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: at college football, every team that got the bye week loss,

642
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: and when you look in the league, it's not usually

643
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: how it happens. I mean it's at times it does happen.

644
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: You know, the bye week team lost. I think maybe

645
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: last year they struggled, but it was it last year

646
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Speaker 1: Baltimore Baltimore and losing in the NFC champion or AFC

647
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: Championship to the Kansas City Chiefs at home. But for

648
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Speaker 1: a team like Detroit, they're so banged up, they got

649
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: so many guys on IR you got David Montgomery right

650
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: on their edge of coming back. You got guys that

651
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: could potentially impactful players that just needed one more week.

652
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: This is critical for them, and it's critical because it's

653
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: it's them getting to take their time rehabbing and coming

654
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: back and getting the reps and really making sure those

655
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: injuries are a lot healthier than they would have been

656
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: if you try to force yourself to come back for

657
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: a wild card and battle for the team, because you

658
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: never know if this is the last game of the season.

659
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: So it definitely helps a team like Detroit who's gotten

660
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 1: so many guys on the IR to get more guys

661
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: healthy to give them more chances to be whole because

662
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: you need it.

663
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 2: Maybe you don't need totally hold to.

664
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Speaker 1: Beat the Washington Commanders, even though they're playing really good

665
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: football right now, but you'll need it for the NFC Championship,

666
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: regardless of who it is you're playing, whether it's the

667
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles or the LA Rams. And so if they

668
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: could get some of those defensive players back, and then

669
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: you know, Aiden Hutchinson said a long time ago that hey,

670
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: you make it to the Super Bowl, he'll be back.

671
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: Do you make that decision to play him? You know,

672
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: is that the right decision or do you play the

673
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,919
Speaker 1: hot hands? I think obviously the fans would say put

674
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: him out there, like that's our guy and all that,

675
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: but you don't, you know, from it depends on how

676
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: he look in practice and what he looks like. Does

677
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: he look like the player he was. You don't want

678
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: your first game back. You don't get a preseason, you

679
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: don't get live reps before the Super Bowl, and you

680
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: don't want your first game back to beat the super Bowl.

681
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 2: And then something.

682
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: Happens, like something a setback happens in the Super Bowl.

683
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: You only get forty six men that you can call

684
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: active on that game day. You cannot have an injury

685
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: on the Super Bowl day to a pass rusher that

686
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: you're depending on. So that's a story for down the line,

687
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: But just something to keep in mind when you're talking

688
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: about activating these players and the way fans are thinking

689
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: about things down the line, Like, if you can get

690
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: guys healthy, great, but if not, you got to start

691
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: getting guys into the mindset that we're gonna go all

692
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: the way with you.

693
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Speaker 3: Well, let's just say, I mean this Lion's defense that

694
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 3: had so many injuries, and DJ Reider was on air.

695
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 3: I forget what broadcaster was on, but he was on

696
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 3: air and he was basically saying what happened. They asked

697
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 3: him what happened in the Minnesota game. He just said,

698
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 3: they finally got time together. They've finally been able to

699
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 3: communicate with each other better on the field. Like when

700
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 3: you're mixing things up, and if so many injuries, how

701
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 3: difficult is it just a sub and play next man up.

702
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: It's really difficult because some of these guys haven't even

703
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: been on a team for weeks or a month, and

704
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: so just to understanding the defensive scheme, understanding the philosophy,

705
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: understanding what the expectations are from your peers, from the coaches,

706
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: the techniques that they want you to play, you know,

707
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: the picks or you know the games, what the signals are,

708
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: things like that that are that our second nature for

709
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: some of these players. Some of these new guys are like, Hey,

710
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: I'm learning on the fly. I'm trying to figure it out.

711
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,439
Speaker 1: You know, you got Zadarias Smith who just got there

712
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: just trying to figure it out on the fly. He

713
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: could be a really dynamic, helpful pass rusher, but it's

714
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: hard for them to scheme up what he does well

715
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: and really play to his talents and make him fit

716
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: within this game and him understand this game so that

717
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: he could showcase his talents. So it's really important in

718
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: another week together, another week without the chaos of game

719
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: planning and football allows that to grow and allows that.

720
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Speaker 3: To g The Rams are going to Philly, and the

721
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 3: line just came out. It's Philly favored by six points.

722
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 3: The last time these two teams met, the Eagles dominated

723
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 3: the Rams thirty seven to twenty on the road. And

724
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Speaker 3: week eleven, Richard, you already broke it down a little

725
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 3: bit here, but who do you favor in this matchup momentum.

726
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 1: I favor momentum because that's what it's going to come

727
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: down to. You know, everybody's criticized Jalen Hurts for his

728
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: performance last week, and again I've said it all season.

729
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: I just something about me just doesn't trust these Philadelphia

730
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 1: Eagles because of that. Because if somebody can stop Saquon,

731
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 1: it becomes a whole different game from the Philadelphia Eagles,

732
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 1: a very different game. And that is the concern. Nobody

733
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: has been able to stop Saquon for good reason. This

734
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: is one of the best offensive lines in football. They

735
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: man handled everybody and they're going to continue to do that.

736
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: But if the Rams, somehow can can find a way

737
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 1: to bottle him up a little bit? Can they Can

738
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Speaker 1: they find a way to not shut him down, because

739
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: that's pretty impossible on this day and age. But can

740
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: they stifle him just enough times to give him Matt

741
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 1: Stafford and those guys a chance to get a lead.

742
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: Can they make enough plays? Can they Can they create

743
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: a turnover like they did tonight against the Minnesota Vikings.

744
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: They can they get an interception and jump around like

745
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: they did tonight against the Minnesota Vikings and give them

746
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 1: that Stafford one extra possession. That is when I would

747
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: get concerned for the Philadelphia Eagles if they can if

748
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: they get behind two scores and they can't just consistently

749
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: ground and pound and run Saquon Barkley and they have

750
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: to lean on Jalen Hurts his arm consistently. That is

751
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: where we'll learn a lot about the Philadelphia Eagles. We

752
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: know they have the dynamic playmakers Goddard, aj Brown, Devontae Smith.

753
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 1: Even in the past game, you still got Saquon Barkley,

754
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: who's the dangerous in the pass game. Can Jalen Hurts

755
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: shake off the rust that he's shown over the past

756
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: four or five games that he's played, He just has

757
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: not looked the same he did have the one game

758
00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: Or is that what y'all wanted where he threw for

759
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: I think over two fifty and he looked really good,

760
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: and he's just like that what y'all wanted that, that's

761
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: what y'all wanted, That's what y'all wanted to see. Gotcha that?

762
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: But we need to see that in the playoffs. And

763
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: if he does that and he's done it, he's done

764
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: it before. Let's not act like he hasn't played well

765
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. He played well on his way to

766
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. He got to the Super Bowl against

767
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and some would argue he outplayed Patrick Mahomes.

768
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 1: But this season he's just had a lot of ups

769
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: and downs. And this Rams defense has shown they can

770
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 1: be relentless, they can be disruptive, they can cause issues,

771
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: and they can play a lot better than their seventeenth

772
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: ranking over the season, and they've gotten healthier, they've gotten

773
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: more experienced, and their offense has gotten more experienced. But

774
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Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles are just a more talented team. They're

775
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 1: a more complete team. Their offensive line full of All

776
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 1: Pros and Pro Bowlers, their defensive line Jalen Carter, full

777
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: of All Pros and Pro Bowlers. Their secondary quin Jon Mitchell,

778
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: they call it Quintanamo Bank. Locking you know a rookie,

779
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: he's playing at a really high level. Cooper Degene impactful player,

780
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 1: big play, safe for end of the program, impactful player, CJ. Gardner,

781
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: Johnson Blankenship. They all really experienced, really impactful players that

782
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: play well together. Na Kobe Dean is going to be

783
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: a big issue, though, second leading tackler on the team

784
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: has it looks like he's out for the rest of

785
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: the playoffs. With the ruptured Patetel Intendon, that's a big loss.

786
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 1: What will his replacement do and how will he fare

787
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: and how will he factor into this game. But you know,

788
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 1: their d line is playing as good, Nolan Smith playing

789
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: some of their best football of their careers. So that's

790
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 1: what has allowed this Philadelphia defense to be number one

791
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 1: in the Land or number two defense in the Land.

792
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: But it's it's that offense that sometimes kind of kind

793
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: of struggles. And if they struggle in this game and

794
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: it's just the wrong time, anything can happen.

795
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 3: So who do you like, rich, I mean, you think

796
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 3: the Rams go on the road and squeak one out,

797
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 3: or you think Philly's gonna be heading hopefully to Detroit

798
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 3: to take on the Lions in the NFC Championship game.

799
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 3: That's my whole bridge. I think Philly goes.

800
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: You know, I think Philly just you know, sa Quon

801
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: is just having a special season.

802
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: He's running the ball well.

803
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: Their offensive line is really really tough to deal with

804
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: for a lot of people, you know, Lane Johnson, my Lotta,

805
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: There's just so much talent on that team. So I

806
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: think they're gonna figure it out. And I just don't

807
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 1: know if the Rams have enough experience and enough beef

808
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: upfront to really deal with that consistently. And if they

809
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: get to Detroit, you know, you get Philadelphia.

810
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 2: Detroit.

811
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Speaker 1: Guess what we go back to, Mitchell. Guess what gets

812
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: you today? It's the championship games, Mitchell. Momentum, momentum and

813
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 1: old line, d line Mitchell. It's built in the trenches.

814
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: Trench work, trinch work.

815
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: You gotta have it.

816
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 1: You gotta have great trenches if you want to win

817
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: in this league.

818
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 3: I'm with you, and that would be Both of those

819
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 3: matchups would be incredible matchups. But the AFC man, I mean,

820
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 3: like we talked about last Bad Cut podcast, the AFC,

821
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 3: once he's playoffs start, they hit you quick because we

822
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 3: see in the divisional round the Ravens are going on

823
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 3: the road to take on the Buffalo Bills in a

824
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 3: must see matchup, one of the best games of the year,

825
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 3: no question about that. In terms of matchup, we get

826
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 3: two great teams and two great quarterbacks who are gonna

827
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 3: be battling out for the MVP as well. Vegas likes

828
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 3: the Ravens, giving them a one and a half point

829
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 3: edge over the Bills, Richard, Who do you like in

830
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 3: this game?

831
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Speaker 1: I like who Vegas likes this time, because that's the

832
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 1: team I think has the advantage. You know, I think

833
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson had the advantage they played

834
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: this Buffalo Bills team obviously was without Matt Milano in

835
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: the lineup, so it's gonna be a little different here.

836
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Speaker 1: But they've seen success. On that tape. It looks like success.

837
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Speaker 1: It looks like they have answers. It looks like Derrick

838
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: Henry of old, it looked like Lamar Jackson had answers.

839
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: That they'll be likely getting Zave Flowers back for this game,

840
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,240
Speaker 1: who they didn't have last week against the Pittsburgh Steelers.

841
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:10,439
Speaker 2: So I like them.

842
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: Usually when you get a point and a half from

843
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 1: Vegas and you're the when you're the away team, you're

844
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 1: the road team, that's really like four and a half

845
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: because they give the home team three just for being home.

846
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: If you're the home team, you get three points. Like

847
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: if you see a three point margin, hey they're three

848
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: point favorites. They're really just the home team. That's what

849
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: they give you for being home. And if you see

850
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: them down by three, that's really six points like they're saying,

851
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: you know, this is a six point doll, but that's

852
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: you know, a low background info about how that goes.

853
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: But I give it to Buffalo. They're playing good football

854
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: and they've shown they can run the football really well.

855
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: James Cook has been incredible. Seventeen rushing touchdowns on the

856
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 1: season now has been a great compliment to Josh Allen

857
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: and what he's been able to do. When Josh Allen

858
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: isn't having a big game, it's usually because James Cook

859
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: is running the ball really well in that game and

860
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: he doesn't need to pass it that much, or he

861
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: himself is running the ball well and he had twelve

862
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 1: touchdowns on the year rushing the football.

863
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be a good game.

864
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be the thirty five to ten

865
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: game that it was when they played earlier in the year.

866
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: But I still think Buffalo struggles to stop the Baltimore Ravens,

867
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: and I think the Baltimore Ravens defense is playing as

868
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: well as they have all season, and they'll find ways.

869
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: They're number one in just about every category pass yards,

870
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: yards per play, scoring since Week eleven. The adjustments they

871
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 1: made have just been great Now, Josh Allen isn't going

872
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: quietly into the night, especially when the MVP conversation has

873
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: been happening all year long, especially in the last month

874
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: between he and Lamar Jackson. Who deserves it more. They

875
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: gave it to Lamar last year with stats that weren't

876
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 1: as great as the stats he put up this year,

877
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: and obviously Josh Allen with the forty one touchdowns are

878
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: forty touchdowns is going to say, hey man, this team

879
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: was projected not to be in the playoffs this season,

880
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: with the departures of a lot of veterans, a lot

881
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: of captains, a lot of production offensively with Stefan Diggs

882
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: and the Boys. But he wield this team with rookies

883
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: and young players Khalil Shakier and Kean Coleman and James

884
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: James Cook who we talked about, Dalton kin Kai the Titians.

885
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: They've willed this team to a very good record, second

886
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,720
Speaker 1: ranked offense in the National Football League, the eleventh ranked defense.

887
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: So they're not going to be an easy out. But

888
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: I think the Baltimore Ravens pull this one.

889
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 2: Out, Richard.

890
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 3: While Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen are on their way

891
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 3: to the camp. Let's be real, these guys are playing

892
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 3: like Pro Football Hall of famers in the future, no

893
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 3: question about it, but neither one of them has been

894
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 3: able to get to that top level, that Super Bowl.

895
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 3: How important is this game? How important is one of

896
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 3: these guys making a run and getting their teams over

897
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 3: the final hurdle, which is Patrick Mahomes and get out

898
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 3: of this AFC and out of the Super Bowl? How

899
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 3: important is this to their legacies?

900
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 2: It's incredibly important.

901
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: This is essential because whoever loses this game takes a knock,

902
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, They take a step down

903
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 1: on the pedestal, and whoever wins it takes a step up. Now,

904
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: Mahomes is at the top of the mountain, regardless of

905
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: how he's been playing, regardless of if you think he's

906
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: played elite this year or last year, but what you

907
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: think of him, Patrick Mahomes is at the top of

908
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: the mountain. Three Super Bowl wins, three Super Bowl MVPs,

909
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 1: two MVPs in the National Football League. If he retired today,

910
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: some would call him the greatest quarterback to ever play,

911
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: no offense to the goat Tom twelve. But the things

912
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: he's been able to do early in his career have

913
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 1: given him the leeway in the space he's the greatest.

914
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 2: Now.

915
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: The only way anybody takes a step closer and separates

916
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 1: himself from the pack more is winning this game.

917
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 2: Now.

918
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: If Josh Allen wins this game, then it's Patrick mahone,

919
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, then Burrow and Lamar and then everybody else

920
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 1: after that. And if vice versa happens and Lamar wins,

921
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: then is Patrick Mahomes, Lamar, Josh Allen, Burrow and everybody else.

922
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: That's how it's gonna work, and that's how it's gonna

923
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: shake out. For whoever wins, it's gonna give themself a

924
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: chance to go against the top of the mountain and

925
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: potentially inch themselves closer to greatness and too closer to

926
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 1: him in comparison. But you're not gonna be able to

927
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: catch him because you're not gonna be able to win

928
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: three Super Bowls this year. You can only win one.

929
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: So that's what's on the line right now. The other

930
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: will deal with a lot of criticism in the offseason

931
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: about how they can't win the big game. You know,

932
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 1: I think if Josh Allen loses, he'll be a little

933
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: bit lighter because he just doesn't have the talent offensively,

934
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,720
Speaker 1: and that's what they'll say. He doesn't have the weapons.

935
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: That's what they said in the preseason, that's what they

936
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,720
Speaker 1: said all year long. But he is a two seed

937
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: right now, so you kind of eliminate that that conversation.

938
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: But I'm sure that's what they'll say if he loses that,

939
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: Hey man, he doesn't have the receivers yet, They're gonna

940
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 1: get more experienced, They're gonna get more pieces, they're gonna

941
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: get better in that space, and they'll be better next

942
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: year if Lamar Jackson loses, though Mitchell, with everything that

943
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,439
Speaker 1: they've been have and everything they've been able to do,

944
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a lot different a lot more noise

945
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: coming out about Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens if

946
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: they're unable to win this game and unable to make

947
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: it further, if they're unable to make it to the

948
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 1: super Bowl this season. So I think a lot more

949
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: pressure is on the Baltimore Ravens because their expectation and

950
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: their disappointment would be so much greater because coming into

951
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: this season, they were supposed to be one of the

952
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: best teams in football and it was supposed to be

953
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: them in the Kansas City Chiefs in then AFC Championship,

954
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: and again you're expecting that to be a battle, but

955
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: we're expecting it to be in Baltimore. Again, it's gonna

956
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 1: be in Kansas City if it happens. So they would

957
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 1: have to go through Buffalo and go through Kansas City

958
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: on the road to get to a Super Bowl, then

959
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: potentially go through one of these great quarterbacks and one

960
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: of these great teams in the NFC, and that would

961
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,919
Speaker 1: get them a lot of acclaim. So I'm looking forward

962
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: to watching this game in this result, it'll a lot

963
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: Ryan know this one.

964
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 3: And then finally let's talk about Kansas City. They're hosting

965
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 3: the Houston Texans. A lot of folks, including myself, were

966
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 3: surprised at how dominant the Houston Texas were in that

967
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 3: last game, especially in the second half, absolutely killing the

968
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 3: La Chargers in every facet of the game offensively, defensively,

969
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 3: special teams.

970
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 2: It just looked like.

971
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 3: They wanted it a lot more. A lot of people

972
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:37,760
Speaker 3: were talking about them as a possible Super Bowl contender,

973
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 3: I mean, coming out of the AFC this year, Richard,

974
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 3: how do you view this matchup I mean, it's big

975
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 3: mo momentum on Houston side or do you think they

976
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 3: just get they get tossed out of side easily with

977
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 3: going into Kansas City.

978
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: It depends, and I do think they're riding high. They

979
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: have momentum.

980
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 2: CJ.

981
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: Stroud has just struggled a little bit and regressed a

982
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: little bit this year, but look like he and Nico

983
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: Collins found a bit of rhythm. But they're gonna have

984
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: an even tougher matchup than they did last week against

985
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 1: this Spag No Spags coach defense and all the talent

986
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 1: that Chris Jones and and and uh Carl Loftis and

987
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: and Bolton and McDuffie and etcetera, etcetera, justin Reid. Uh,

988
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: they have a lot of talent on this secondary. They're

989
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: getting Watson back at the corner, and that's where I'm concerned,

990
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: Like are they gonna be able to score enough points?

991
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: I think the defense may be able to get it done.

992
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: I love the corner matchups. I love lasseter and and

993
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 1: Derek Stingley are are playing as good a football as

994
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: they've played all season. You talked about Petrie, I think

995
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: they could be really problematic, Like Patrick Mahomes has turned

996
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 1: the ball over and this defense has been one of

997
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 1: the best in the National Football League this year of

998
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: taking the football. So they're gonna be able to potentially

999
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: give their offense a few more possessions. But are they

1000
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: gonna be able to run the ball as Joe Mixon

1001
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: gonna be effective? Like, how do they manufacture points? Because

1002
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: I think they can get enough stops. I think, you know,

1003
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 1: we talked about this Kansas City offense. This isn't their

1004
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: best offensive year. This isn't their most talented offense. They

1005
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 1: don't have a ton of big time playmakers. Xavier Worthy

1006
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: is a speedy guy, but I think you put a

1007
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: guy like Stingley on him, they can handle it. You

1008
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: got veteran receivers in Juju Smith Schuster, you got NW Hopkins,

1009
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: but they can be handled. You got the veteran in

1010
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: Kelsey who hasn't looked like he has in the past.

1011
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: You know, he'll find his spots, he'll get open. He

1012
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: has his rapport with Patrick. But their tackles have struggled.

1013
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: You know, they've moved one of the best guards in

1014
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: National Football League to tackle to try to just band

1015
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: aid their way through these playoffs. And he's done a

1016
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: great job. Tony's done a great job at tackle. They've

1017
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 1: been able to fix some things. But now he's gonna

1018
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 1: go against Danil Hunter and Will Anderson, and those are

1019
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: two of the premier pass rushers in the National Football League.

1020
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: How do they both stand up? And you talk about

1021
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: on the right side, the right tackle. He's had a

1022
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,879
Speaker 1: lot of penalty issues and he you know, whether it's

1023
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: a lineman or whether it's holding. I think he's one

1024
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: of the most penalized offensive linemen in National Football League.

1025
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: And they'll attack him relentlessly in this game. So there

1026
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 1: is a space where the Houston Texans defensively can hold

1027
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: their own, but kim their offense survive. That's the part

1028
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,720
Speaker 1: that I'm most concerned about. And I just think Andy

1029
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: Reid and Spags just are gonna be too much for

1030
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: this team in the end. And they're gonna they're gonna

1031
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: put out a win.

1032
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean they get Isaiah to check go

1033
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 3: back to I mean they're well rested. This Kansas City

1034
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 3: Chiefs team quietly went fifteen and two this season and

1035
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 3: return and are looking for a three peat. I don't

1036
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 3: know if anyone's gonna want to see him again in

1037
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. Like I think folks are rooting for

1038
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 3: somebody else, but I just don't know how you stop them.

1039
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 3: They're an absolute juggernaut. I gotta believe Kansas City comes

1040
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 3: out of this victorious and then, my goodness, we'll see

1041
00:52:56,360 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 3: who comes out of the Bills and Ravens game alive,

1042
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 3: because that AFC title game is going to be an

1043
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 3: absolute wild one again, Richard, this is amazing. Wildcar Weekend

1044
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 3: is already coming gone. We're going onto the divisional round.

1045
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 3: Now the NFL, there's no greater sport in the world

1046
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 3: than the NFL. You're winning, you move on, you don't

1047
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,280
Speaker 3: and you go home, or you go to can Kun. Richard,

1048
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 3: this final eight is gonna We're gonna have a heck

1049
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 3: of arrest of the run here. I will let you

1050
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:28,720
Speaker 3: sign us off, my friend.

1051
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: I wonder how Mexico feels about always being the butt

1052
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: of the jokes of teams getting eliminated from major sports.

1053
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 3: Either it's free advertisement, man, I would love to go

1054
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:42,399
Speaker 3: to Cancun right.

1055
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: Now, so me too. Weather's great. But as always, thank

1056
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: you guys for joining us at the rich Term Podcast.

1057
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1058
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,840
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1059
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,439
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1060
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