Speaker 1: I think it's important for men and women to understand
Speaker 1: that men don't only think about themselves when it comes
Speaker 1: to sex. I get her right to where she edges.
Speaker 1: Then I beat that thing up. And then when I'm
Speaker 1: beating that thing up getting what I want, and I
Speaker 1: know that I'm about to that's when I stopped. That's
Speaker 1: why y'all got and I put her back on her
Speaker 1: back and I say, baby, hold this one more time,
Speaker 1: and then I just what's up?
Speaker 2: Y'all?
Speaker 3: Is your girl lex p And it's your girl's writing
Speaker 3: a call?
Speaker 2: And you are tuned in to another episode of Poor Mine,
Speaker 2: where a drunk mind speaks for thought. You gotta guess,
Speaker 2: we gotta guess, Saday. So, first of all, y'all have
Speaker 2: been asking us to have this person on the blowing
Speaker 2: up our messages. So we have the one and only author, actor, producer,
Speaker 2: award winning podcast host, husband, father.
Speaker 4: And come on, come onlaying the hell of it all right,
Speaker 4: come on one and the only.
Speaker 2: Thank you happy to have you on the show that
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie to you. I have had some
Speaker 2: heavy hitters on this couch, right. Yes, that was probably
Speaker 2: the longest intro I've had to do. You have done
Speaker 2: a lot. I want to start from the beginning. So
Speaker 2: you know the girls, we love. We love a good athlete.
Speaker 2: Now we're gonna start back in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Then, Okay, okay, okay, let's do that. Let's do that.
Speaker 2: So talk about like your your football career and like
Speaker 2: how that got started and all that good stuff.
Speaker 1: So the funny thing is first and foremost, I love y'all.
Speaker 1: Thank you, like I'm excited. If you can't tell the bee,
Speaker 1: I've been smiling since I walked in here, curious. I
Speaker 1: was introduced to y'all last year when you'll introduced Crystal.
Speaker 2: I love Crystal so ever since then, I just yes,
Speaker 2: we love you for y'all.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, I knew because I knew y'all be
Speaker 1: on the fashion. You know what I'm saying, So let
Speaker 1: me make sure you show up a little bit. We're
Speaker 1: trying to do a little one too. Period. But no
Speaker 1: football to me was a means to an end. People
Speaker 1: don't understand this. As a young black man growing up
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn, I always wanted to be in the arts.
Speaker 1: The first movie I ever saw in my life was
Speaker 1: Boys in the Hood. It was nineteen eighty nine. My
Speaker 1: father bootlegged it. My bad group, I'm telling your business
Speaker 1: legged it, but that he showed it in the living room.
Speaker 1: He had a group, a men's group called the Junior Layman,
Speaker 1: and there was a bunch of young black men watching
Speaker 1: Boys in the Hood. I was five. I walked in
Speaker 1: my pops, like, you want to watch? She sat me
Speaker 1: right here and I watched all of these young men
Speaker 1: be captivated of what they saw on TV. And I said,
Speaker 1: I want to do that. But this is Brooklyn in
Speaker 1: the nineties. How many how many young black men you know,
Speaker 1: walking around saying the artists? Homophobia was in the nineties,
Speaker 1: So it was like, yeah, what am I going to
Speaker 1: do to show people I'm tough?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm so?
Speaker 1: I played sports. I played sports. I danced. I did
Speaker 1: a brook up. I don't know if you know, but
Speaker 1: the brook up is a Caribbean dance. You said you've
Speaker 1: seen the shoulder, so the brook up is a dance, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: you see your laughing because you ain't know what the
Speaker 1: broke up was. I'm not this. I'm this. I've been
Speaker 1: doing this. I was a kid.
Speaker 2: I just you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I used to dance. I used to be out in
Speaker 1: the streets trying to entertain people. But I knew I
Speaker 1: had to make money, so I was like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make money. And I was like sports.
Speaker 3: So wait, I know your wife is Caribbean. Are you
Speaker 3: Caribbean too?
Speaker 1: No, I'm Caribbean by relation, not my birth. Come on,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So you know what. My wife's Jamaican and Jamaican vincension.
Speaker 1: So I adopted that culture. But I've always been big
Speaker 1: in Caribbean culture. Coming from Boklands. Yeah, I just knew
Speaker 1: that they had to find my way out of New York.
Speaker 1: I never wanted to spend my whole life in Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: Sports came easy to me because I was fast, I
Speaker 1: was athletics, so I said, I'm going to play sports.
Speaker 1: I was going to play basketball. I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be about six five, that's what. And then when
Speaker 1: you go to the doctor, right, you know, the doctor
Speaker 1: told you I'm looking at your phone, your growth places
Speaker 1: you're about six or five. Buddy, I stopped growing and
Speaker 1: I said, you know what I think football is it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not told enough to play basketball. Went and got
Speaker 1: my degree and said I'm gonna focus on TV afterwards.
Speaker 1: It was that simple. What was a means to an end.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. The NFL was great to me. I
Speaker 1: made a lot of money that I wouldn't have been
Speaker 1: able to make. But it was just the plan to
Speaker 1: get me the TV film because.
Speaker 2: A lot of people don't have that, and I hate
Speaker 2: to see the story of like athletes when they leave
Speaker 2: the NFL and they just don't know what to do.
Speaker 2: They I mean, they try to make the transition as
Speaker 2: you've made. A lot of them try to go to
Speaker 2: like TV doing sports casting, but as you know, it's
Speaker 2: hard to talk on camera.
Speaker 1: It's not it's not easy. And the funny thing is,
Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna go into broadcasting first too.
Speaker 1: I got my degree in broadcast journalism. Yeah, but that's
Speaker 1: why I knew that y'all was good because we went
Speaker 1: to school for this week season.
Speaker 2: But that's why y'all good at what Yeah, Barbara Walker's
Speaker 2: shaking for a long time.
Speaker 1: Okay. The funny thing is, no one to see. No
Speaker 1: one wanted to see y'all coming like this, just the
Speaker 1: way y'all dressed, looking, the way y'all look y'all not
Speaker 1: supposed to be able to do what y'all do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: So the fact that y'all are doing is please give
Speaker 1: yourself a round of a plank you and shout out
Speaker 1: that you had degrees. Because people think that having degrees
Speaker 1: is pointless. I don't. I don't.
Speaker 2: I think it depends on what you want to do.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I think it depends on what you want
Speaker 3: to do. But the things that I love about people
Speaker 3: who have degrees, I think it just says that, like,
Speaker 3: you finished what you started.
Speaker 1: You saw something through completely.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And as a businessman, that's important. All the people I
Speaker 1: go into business with are going to business people who
Speaker 1: I've seen do things through completely, right, because that means
Speaker 1: you had to do something you didn't want to do
Speaker 1: to see it all the way through it. That's life.
Speaker 1: So you know, I started off broadcasting. I worked for
Speaker 1: MSG Varsity doing games and yes, why did you because
Speaker 1: they wanted me to say what they wanted me to say.
Speaker 3: Ooh, and that's what I was going to say. Because radio.
Speaker 1: We hated it because they said, you can't say it
Speaker 1: was certain.
Speaker 3: We just couldn't be our authentic selves the way that
Speaker 3: we can on these couch and I mean it's cool,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, shout out to the people
Speaker 3: that do radio, Kudos to them. I just don't think
Speaker 3: it was it was for us.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I actually started off doing hard news. I used
Speaker 2: to have an internship at my college at TSU, so
Speaker 2: I would wake up at five o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 2: go to the radio station. I'm reporting on all this
Speaker 2: stuff like kids getting kidnapped, house and higher. I'm like,
Speaker 2: this is depressing, ain't it. Oh my god? It was
Speaker 2: so hard, and I was like, I don't want to
Speaker 2: do this. And then I kind of got into like
Speaker 2: doing like entertainment news and I'm like, you know what,
Speaker 2: I just want to talk shit and.
Speaker 1: You have for those I don't like. I don't like
Speaker 1: the breaks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like how you have to do you know how
Speaker 3: you have to do so many posies and breaks when
Speaker 3: you do radio.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hate that.
Speaker 3: Like on this show, you know, we just talk freely.
Speaker 3: It's no breaks, it's it's not edited, it's not altered.
Speaker 3: I think that you have to do that. Well, we
Speaker 3: know you have to do that. It comes to like
Speaker 3: radio and broadcasting. Podcasting is the evolution of medium.
Speaker 1: It really is, you know, and it's going to become,
Speaker 1: like I think it's going to become the main set
Speaker 1: of where people consume all of their information.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie to you. I I think it
Speaker 2: is now though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think a lot.
Speaker 2: Of times when you are hearing people have authentic conversations
Speaker 2: and you're not hearing somebody like, oh, I have to
Speaker 2: ask this question, like we have talking points, but we're
Speaker 2: gonna get off topic, and you go like, oh, this
Speaker 2: is how this person feels about X Y Z. Oh
Speaker 2: I really like them. Oh you know what, I didn't
Speaker 2: really like that they were doing, But now that I
Speaker 2: know them, I want to support everything that they need absolutely,
Speaker 2: So it could be good for you or bad. So
Speaker 2: that's what I want to talk about too.
Speaker 3: You getting into podcasting, yes, yes, How did they come about?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 1: My beautiful wife Kadin, very similar to you guys, went
Speaker 1: to school for broadcast journalism. She wanted to do hard news.
Speaker 1: She did hoghtra news and views. She worked at the
Speaker 1: radio station and she hated it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So when when I retired from the NFL at this
Speaker 1: point she was having our first child, I felt bad
Speaker 1: as a man that I was just like man like.
Speaker 1: She has her own dreams. She always has to stop
Speaker 1: doing her dreams we continue to have children. So I
Speaker 1: was like, well, I can't even take credit for this.
Speaker 1: Our manager at the time, Donor Donor Opinion shout out
Speaker 1: to do Nora because her vision for what she saw
Speaker 1: for us was huge and we wouldn't be who we
Speaker 1: were if it wasn't for Yeah, she got an opportunity
Speaker 1: from Stitcher, and Stitch was like, hey, the volen Kadeen
Speaker 1: do all these videos about Battle of the Sexist and
Speaker 1: it's money. Have they ever thought about the podcast? And
Speaker 1: Donor came to us and explained what the podcast was.
Speaker 1: I had never heard of a podcast, and I was like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, babe. We could do the podcast from home,
Speaker 1: we could do the podcast from anywhere, but you'll get
Speaker 1: an opportunity to continue to work and do what you
Speaker 1: do in your field without having to pause every time
Speaker 1: you get pregnant. So I was like, let's focus on
Speaker 1: the podcast and build that out so that we can
Speaker 1: ultimately get to your goal of being a daytime TV
Speaker 1: show host. And she was like, bet, let's do it,
Speaker 1: and we started it and now we're fifteen seasons later
Speaker 1: and amazing.
Speaker 2: That is because being in this field too. You know
Speaker 2: how many times we've seen people start it because they
Speaker 2: used to be like, oh, I can do this if
Speaker 2: they do, and then they started and then they quit.
Speaker 1: Of course that it's not as easy as it was. Well,
Speaker 1: nothing is easy. That's worth having. And the problem with
Speaker 1: most people, especially in this generation, is they want instant gratification.
Speaker 1: I was doing videos for years before any one of
Speaker 1: my videos got traction to go viral, and then once
Speaker 1: it went viral, that's when people say, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: the value doing this? I said, well, where were y'all
Speaker 1: years ago when I had twenty six people viewing my
Speaker 1: videos and I was still making videos. I'm editing videos
Speaker 1: and putting pictures up and you see three likes that
Speaker 1: oh my god.
Speaker 2: You know, listeners, girl, what are you screaming for?
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody watching it?
Speaker 2: Watching?
Speaker 1: But we kept going on. You know who gave me
Speaker 1: the biggest tip? Pause about just saying I got a
Speaker 1: pause that you can say somebody gave me a big
Speaker 1: tipping and I don't puuse there.
Speaker 2: You felt how he gave me a big tip tool?
Speaker 1: You felt that moved? Did you pull no more?
Speaker 2: Period?
Speaker 3: Look?
Speaker 1: Okay, tip, I can't even tell this story now, especially
Speaker 1: in this climate. But I worked as Amari Hardwick's a
Speaker 1: stunt double. I see three years you see it, right,
Speaker 1: I was. I had to suit on everything, walking through truth.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Okay. My first speaking role
Speaker 1: in television was when I played Ghosts and I had
Speaker 1: to curse Timmy out. Y'all might remember this, The fuck
Speaker 1: you looking at? You see that? I said that to
Speaker 1: tim me in jail. But it was a ghost.
Speaker 2: It was me, it was you, it was But why
Speaker 2: did he need a double for that? Just out of curiosity?
Speaker 1: Like back walking through truth? Well so this is what
Speaker 1: So this is what happened. All right, this You're not
Speaker 1: gonna shame me from my role.
Speaker 3: I'm playing with y'all to ask trying to figure it out.
Speaker 1: The role didn't start out as a double. The role
Speaker 1: started with season two, I believe episode nine. Tommy had
Speaker 1: went to jail and he's in jail and he sees
Speaker 1: a guy who looks like ghosts, and then he goes
Speaker 1: to him. He's like a ghost, a ghost, And then
Speaker 1: I turn around and I say, the fuck you looking
Speaker 1: at And then he realized, wait a minute, that's it,
Speaker 1: that's not ghost I got to watch that episode. Right
Speaker 1: after that episode is when the producers just like, yo,
Speaker 1: you look and your body type is a lot like Omari, right,
Speaker 1: And he was like, how are you interested in being
Speaker 1: his stunt double? So my thing was just like you
Speaker 1: nigga be walking around and what the fuck does he
Speaker 1: need a stunt double for? But I do it okay,
Speaker 1: because I wanted to learn. I want to see what
Speaker 1: it's like a leading man in the drama, the number
Speaker 1: one drama on all the television. So I'm doing that.
Speaker 1: And years before that, I had did fifty cents funeral video.
Speaker 1: I played Remo. So one thing about fifty cent, y'all
Speaker 1: gotta notice fifty cent remembers everyone who's been around really
Speaker 1: he does, because I mean he's from Queens. I'm from Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: I understand this, this type of environment. He from Queens,
Speaker 1: He's had beef his whole life. When people around you,
Speaker 1: you make sure you can recognize who's ane you. So
Speaker 1: I was around him all day shooting his video. Two
Speaker 1: years later, I go to do power and he looks
Speaker 1: at me like yo, I said Remo, and he's just like, Yo,
Speaker 1: what's good? Ge? Like people think fifty cent is like
Speaker 1: this hard guy who always he is, but he's also
Speaker 1: a businessman and a stud businessman. So me being a
Speaker 1: Brooklyn guy, it's the end of the night. It's like
Speaker 1: one thirty. Of course, I'm just the stunt double. Stunt
Speaker 1: doubles don't really do shit, you know. So fifty cents
Speaker 1: walking through the lobby. I see him. He's with a
Speaker 1: little PA, and I'm like, this is my chance. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go holler at fifty. So i jump up. Everybody's
Speaker 1: quiet saying I'm like, fifty said, come through. I get up.
Speaker 1: He getting on the elevator. I go to get on
Speaker 1: the elevator. The PA puts his hand on my chest.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh no, you're not use me me like
Speaker 1: you know me walked right through that right and then
Speaker 1: fifty was smirking, and I was like, yo, fake what up?
Speaker 1: So then when he started talking to to P was like, okay,
Speaker 1: I guess this is cool. So I said, yo, fifth man,
Speaker 1: you was in there real good. I was real comfortable.
Speaker 1: I was real cocause I'm like, this is my moment.
Speaker 1: This is a moment, you know what I'm saying. Walked
Speaker 1: in that bitch. I was like, Fifth, what up. He
Speaker 1: was like, what's up, my g and I was just like, yo,
Speaker 1: I like you, Yo, you're bully like me. I'm a bully.
Speaker 1: To see how I got on the elevator. So he
Speaker 1: started laughing and I was like, Yo, this is before
Speaker 1: BMMF was out. I said, y'all want to be on BMF.
Speaker 1: He was just like, Yo, we're gonna work. We're gonna work.
Speaker 1: Never got a chance, you know how that go. But
Speaker 1: what he did do, He's like, Yo, what else you
Speaker 1: got going on? He said, yo, come with me. I
Speaker 1: went with him to his dressing room. He looked at
Speaker 1: my social media because I told him the stuff I
Speaker 1: was working on. He saw my videos of my family
Speaker 1: before they ever went viral, and fifty cents said, Yo,
Speaker 1: this shit is hilarious. He said, Yo, you gotta keep
Speaker 1: doing this. He was like, let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: He was like, don't worry about the views. What you
Speaker 1: have here is a catalog of content, which means all
Speaker 1: you need is one video to go viral, and when
Speaker 1: people see that video, they're going to go back and
Speaker 1: see what other videos. And when they see that you
Speaker 1: do this, they'll follow you in their share because it's
Speaker 1: not a one hit wonder right. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: he right, So that was June. That was June, I
Speaker 1: believe two thousand and sixteen, Okay, September. June. September twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: Tyrol was born. I do a video goes viral. I
Speaker 1: had about one thousand videos, all of those videos now
Speaker 1: getting hundreds of thousands of views from that one video.
Speaker 1: First thing I thought was fifty was right. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was right. And the thing is, I've never not on
Speaker 1: be in my but the information he gave me was
Speaker 1: more valuable than a role because he taught me how
Speaker 1: to build my own thing. So from this day, from
Speaker 1: this day forth, I always say, y'all always get fifties.
Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out to fifty cent.
Speaker 3: I feel like that resonates with us too, though, because
Speaker 3: it was kind of like the same thing when we
Speaker 3: went on eighty five South for the first time, Like
Speaker 3: that video got millions of views.
Speaker 2: It hit a million in a week, It.
Speaker 3: Hit a million in a week, and it just it
Speaker 3: trickled down and it makes people come back to all
Speaker 3: of our old videos and watch all of our old videos.
Speaker 3: And I remember on social media, we both gained like
Speaker 3: eighty thousand followers on our personal pages and the poor
Speaker 3: page like overnight it was crazy.
Speaker 1: That shows you the value of consistency. Yeah, which most
Speaker 1: people don't have. They want instant gratification. If they don't
Speaker 1: get it, they quick, But consistency means you do stuff
Speaker 1: when nobody's watching, then when people pay attention. You got
Speaker 1: a catalog that happened to y'all, that happened to me.
Speaker 1: And now look at y'all. Yeah, you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And look at you.
Speaker 1: I'm grinding baby.
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Speaker 1: Y'all?
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Speaker 2: But I want to talk about since we were talking
Speaker 2: about podcasting, cause we were speaking a little bit earlier
Speaker 2: and you were about to touch on cause we talk
Speaker 2: about the freedom that we have with podcasting OFTO comes
Speaker 2: with a little negativity because you can give your opinion,
Speaker 2: but a lot of times people are not gonna agree
Speaker 2: with it and they're gonna be dragging your age.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: One thing, me and Dre are not strangers to drags,
Speaker 2: Like we are always getting drug about something understandable. So
Speaker 2: not understandable, but you're supposed to say, damn not my girl, No.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, Well, I've been dragged. I've been dragged a
Speaker 1: couple of times.
Speaker 2: Talk about the time that you got dragged and you
Speaker 2: were just like, oh my god, why did I say this?
Speaker 2: Or you regretted it or something.
Speaker 1: Well, the first thing is I never regretted saying what
Speaker 1: I was saying. I got dragged because people have a
Speaker 1: difference of opinion.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: The first thing I will say that I've learned as
Speaker 1: an athlete is that people are not like you are
Speaker 1: not entitled to having everyone's admiration or agreement. You say something,
Speaker 1: people have the right to disagree with you. If they do,
Speaker 1: you can't take that as hate, you can't take that
Speaker 1: as negativity. It just is what it is. Because I
Speaker 1: think about it's a lot of people that I don't
Speaker 1: agree with So I'm like, you know what, when I
Speaker 1: put something out, I put it out there is art,
Speaker 1: and I say, regardless of what people say, this is
Speaker 1: my truth. The problem with most people is is they
Speaker 1: don't speak their truth. What they do is they say
Speaker 1: something thinking and everyone's going to agree even if it
Speaker 1: ain't their truth. Like and then when people don't agree,
Speaker 1: they get mad. When you speak your truth, you can't
Speaker 1: get mad if people don't agree. That's my truth. Whether
Speaker 1: you agree with it or not, it's still my truth.
Speaker 1: And I'm unapologetic about it.
Speaker 2: So you be standing on bing this when you say
Speaker 2: stuff and they don't like it.
Speaker 1: Yes, I still don't listen the podcast. I got dragged
Speaker 1: for the most. They tried to cancel Your Boy. We
Speaker 1: were talking about monogamy and I was speaking about how
Speaker 1: I felt as a man. That is unfair for a
Speaker 1: woman to say, hey, I want you to be monogamous
Speaker 1: with me, but only monogamous with me when I want
Speaker 1: you to be monogamous with me if you want to
Speaker 1: have sex and I'm not ready then And I was like,
Speaker 1: that's kind of unfair if it's supposed to be a
Speaker 1: partnership when I want to have sex, or when you
Speaker 1: want to have sex, at least have a discussion about it.
Speaker 1: It can't just always be when you want it. And
Speaker 1: some women dragged me was just like, it's my body,
Speaker 1: you can't tell me when. And I say, you know what,
Speaker 1: if that's how you feel, If what I said made
Speaker 1: you feel that way, then that's how it made you feel.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna argue you down. Your perspective dictates the
Speaker 1: fact that that made you trigger it in a way.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of times people get so wrapped
Speaker 2: up in people's opinions because they created this version of
Speaker 2: you in their head. So if they watch sisters or
Speaker 2: they watch the team and they like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: this man and they see you with your wife, so
Speaker 2: they're like, oh, I want a man like that. He's
Speaker 2: a good father, he's then so they create this image
Speaker 2: of you in their head, but they don't know you
Speaker 2: absolutely day. So when you say something that doesn't fit
Speaker 2: their narrative that they created, and they'd be ready to
Speaker 2: be up in arms and that because that happens a lot.
Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of times people tend to
Speaker 2: feel like, oh, that's so funny, she's so sweet, she's
Speaker 2: so nice, but I'm really like an introvert. I really
Speaker 2: don't like people as much. I really just kind of,
Speaker 2: you know, be doing my own things. So sometimes when
Speaker 2: I say things that people like, they'd be great to
Speaker 2: bring out the pitch for it, But I'm like, why
Speaker 2: are you so upset at? I think the biggest thing
Speaker 2: that shows people's ignorance is when you can't understand that
Speaker 2: not everybody thinks the same. I mean, an opinion is
Speaker 2: an opinion, Like, just because I say something and that's
Speaker 2: how I feel, it doesn't necessarily mean it's factual.
Speaker 1: Right, don't agree with me.
Speaker 3: It's okay for you not to agree with me, but
Speaker 3: it shouldn't have you up in arms because it's my opinion.
Speaker 3: You should be able to take a difference of opinion
Speaker 3: and go about your day.
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I agree with you one thousand percent.
Speaker 1: But what we all have to understand is humans, is
Speaker 1: that social media is in a place where everyone has
Speaker 1: a prerequisite of being healed before they participate. R Yeah,
Speaker 1: So when you hear people's responses to your opinions, typically
Speaker 1: it's because they're going through something where your opinion triggers
Speaker 1: something that they're going through and if it made them
Speaker 1: feel a way and they want to spit fire at you,
Speaker 1: they have the right to do.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it just be triggering that they a fucking hater.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, people just sometimes people be mean sometimes sitting
Speaker 3: there taking it out on you.
Speaker 1: But let me ask you a question that says more
Speaker 1: about them than you, Right, So why do you let
Speaker 1: that affect you?
Speaker 2: You shouldn't because I'm sensitive though everything gets to me.
Speaker 3: I'll be like, say my hair, my mail flex is
Speaker 3: a little more sensitive than I am. Sometimes I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna lie. For the most part, I let a lot
Speaker 3: of ship roll off my back. But sometimes people do
Speaker 3: say something. Every once in a while, I'm just like, oh,
Speaker 3: I gotta respond. I want to get to that point
Speaker 3: where I don't say Beyonce, we want to be beyond.
Speaker 3: I want to be Beyonce to the bullshit. I feel
Speaker 3: like I'm Rihanna.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, there's nothing wrong with being Rihanna
Speaker 1: or Beyonce. It just whatever allows you to have peace
Speaker 1: in your day. You know what I'm saying. If peace
Speaker 1: means today I'm about to clap back on this motherfucker,
Speaker 1: then today is a clap back day. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying if peace for me means that I'm going
Speaker 1: to ignore it and I want to be Beyonce for
Speaker 1: the day, then that's gonna be my piece for today.
Speaker 1: And the truth of the matter is, can't nobody tell
Speaker 1: you how you're supposed to respond to what people make
Speaker 1: you feel? That's that's That's one thing I've learned about
Speaker 1: each social media people in general. If I said something
Speaker 1: that made someone respond in a certain way, whether they
Speaker 1: was hate or whether it was this something like that
Speaker 1: person going through it, Oh well, if I felt like
Speaker 1: clapping back on somebody that day, I was going through it,
Speaker 1: Oh well.
Speaker 3: So you'll be clapping back sometimes, I don't. Okay, did
Speaker 3: you used to it?
Speaker 1: I used to, but I never clapped back in a
Speaker 1: way where I wanted to make someone feel small. I
Speaker 1: always tried to clap back in a way where I
Speaker 1: can educate someone on a different perspective. But even on that,
Speaker 1: I learned that some people don't want a different perspective.
Speaker 1: They want to exist in their own perspective. So I've
Speaker 1: learned to let people live. If you understand, if you
Speaker 1: understand history, and you understand the economy and the way
Speaker 1: the world works, you start to have empathy for people. Right,
Speaker 1: let's just listen to me.
Speaker 2: I'd be like you big big mother, I'll be.
Speaker 3: No, it's about It's so funny because we share obviously,
Speaker 3: we share the log ins for like all of our pages.
Speaker 3: I always be seeing the notifications when she go off
Speaker 3: on people, and.
Speaker 2: I be like, bro, every day every time we tell
Speaker 2: you to say that, who talking?
Speaker 1: Kay tail bitch? We said, big bag. The thing is,
Speaker 1: I get it through them because I feel sometimes I
Speaker 1: do feel like, how did you judge me and say
Speaker 1: things to me and not look at your life first?
Speaker 1: But I want you to consider this. Tell this, ninety
Speaker 1: nine percent of the world's wealth is controlled by one
Speaker 1: percent of the population. Yeah, which means ninety five percent
Speaker 1: of the population is not comfortable with where they are
Speaker 1: in their place in life, which means they're working in
Speaker 1: a job they don't like, they have a husband or
Speaker 1: a wife they don't like. They gotta but there's something
Speaker 1: going on every single day, and the only thing they
Speaker 1: have control over it's that social media. I can put
Speaker 1: a comment on here and I can fuck with Lex today,
Speaker 1: and you know what I'm gonna do today. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: talk to Lex today because if she responds to me,
Speaker 1: that's the only control I have. And when you give
Speaker 1: people that control, now they winning. Yeah, and now you've
Speaker 1: lost it because now all people going to talk about
Speaker 1: is how you responded to the person that nobody knows
Speaker 1: they know lex though, you know what I'm saying, I'll.
Speaker 2: Be ready to crash out. I love to get on
Speaker 2: Live and crash out.
Speaker 3: But you know what's crazy the few that I have
Speaker 3: crashed out people have responded like I had posted a
Speaker 3: screenshot on Twitter like two weeks ago because this guy
Speaker 3: I had tweeted something and this guy had like a
Speaker 3: crazy ass or bottle to me. I can't even remember
Speaker 3: what he said. But then after I said something to him,
Speaker 3: he posted, Look I reposted it, and I like kind
Speaker 3: of went off on him, and then he was like, oh,
Speaker 3: thank you for responding. I love you.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It's like what this is he's talking about when I say,
Speaker 3: people are fucking weird. All of that for him to
Speaker 3: say I love you when I responded.
Speaker 1: Because he wanted he wanted your attention. Yeah, and you
Speaker 1: got into that a lot of people know, like they
Speaker 1: know that I can't get this person's attention unless I
Speaker 1: say something to trigger them, and then the minute they
Speaker 1: get your attention, then all the love comes out. That's
Speaker 1: why I don't respond with people with vitriol all the time,
Speaker 1: because a lot of these people really don't have the
Speaker 1: tools to articulate eloquently how they feel. I told you
Speaker 1: I went to school graduat. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I want to school. You know you're talking.
Speaker 2: About the hell is that? You know the park I
Speaker 2: never popped the butriol. You know the hell is that
Speaker 2: I means that it's just a baby.
Speaker 1: All change your life, that we all change your life.
Speaker 1: Now change your life.
Speaker 3: So I definitely before we get we ain't even got
Speaker 3: into the first topic yet. But before we get into
Speaker 3: the first topic, I defin really want to talk about
Speaker 3: your beautiful wife and your family.
Speaker 2: So how did y'all meet?
Speaker 3: I think I did read somewhere or maybe y'all seen
Speaker 3: it on y'all social media. Y'all met in college?
Speaker 1: Right? No? No, we went to the same elementary school,
Speaker 1: Ohame elementary school. She she tells the story that she
Speaker 1: recognized me when I was in first grade. She was
Speaker 1: in second grade. I didn't you know not girls? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, sometimes Zach got to do that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, even with Zach six, but
Speaker 1: a girl still had coolies during that time. I wasn't
Speaker 1: playing attention. But long story short, because this is a
Speaker 1: long story. We have a brother the same age, and
Speaker 1: we have a sister the same age, so we both
Speaker 1: are family of three. You have brothers who are the
Speaker 1: same age, sister the same age. And I used to
Speaker 1: go back when we were in middle school to pick
Speaker 1: up my brother and sister, and she used to see me.
Speaker 1: We ended up going to rival high schools. She was
Speaker 1: a cheerleader, I was a football player. And then my
Speaker 1: senior year, I was being awarded by the elementary school
Speaker 1: that we both went to, and that was the time
Speaker 1: that she could finally see me and say, hey, dev
Speaker 1: I'm interested and choose let me tell let me tell
Speaker 1: you something, let me tell you something about my wife. Okay,
Speaker 1: and I'll say this. All of the stuff that they
Speaker 1: say you're not supposed to do on social media to
Speaker 1: get a man, she did every single one. Really, she
Speaker 1: walked up to me.
Speaker 3: But it worked out in her.
Speaker 1: Fast, and that's and that's what I'm saying. She did
Speaker 1: every single she she walked up to me as me
Speaker 1: and my but she said Brian and devale Ellis and
Speaker 1: I was just like, I was looking at her and
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, she's fine, but I got to
Speaker 1: be cool. I was like, what's up? The whole night
Speaker 1: we were sitting there chopping it up, and then at
Speaker 1: the end of the night, I was trying to do
Speaker 1: what my pops told me to do. My uncle they like, yo,
Speaker 1: you don't be too thirsty, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: let her let her walk away a little bit. Then,
Speaker 1: like they told me, as she's about to walk away,
Speaker 1: that's when you grab her arm and you just be like,
Speaker 1: excuse me, okay, you know what I'm saying. That was
Speaker 1: you know what I was like, I was gonna.
Speaker 3: You was meant to TV because he was already living
Speaker 3: your real.
Speaker 2: Life, Like you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I had all this in my mind, but when.
Speaker 3: You me though I live my life every day, I
Speaker 3: think I'm in a movie.
Speaker 1: My whole life's a rom com. You can't tell me
Speaker 1: I'm not in a right now. It's called ditch, not hitch.
Speaker 1: Ditch because I be ditching these holes and it's all
Speaker 1: my wife that's why. But before I could, you know,
Speaker 1: grab her arm. She grabbed my my thing and say, Yo,
Speaker 1: since you ain't gonna ask me for my number, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna just give it to you. I like her, which
Speaker 1: they say online. Women are not supposed to do that.
Speaker 1: You're supposed to be demure. He's supposed to be mindful.
Speaker 1: My wife was not about that. She's like, tak my
Speaker 1: number down, took the number down. I called her the
Speaker 1: whole summer. She did not answer. She's a pageant she's
Speaker 1: a pageant girl. She was on the road. She trying
Speaker 1: to play me. So I'm like, man, fuck, this is
Speaker 1: chasing after you. Man, I'm I got an eighty nine maximum,
Speaker 1: I got black rims on that joint with two sup
Speaker 1: with us.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm vibing them.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I had I had you twelves.
Speaker 1: Well I had to twelves. But thank you, bro, you're
Speaker 1: gonna miss your blessing. And I was like all for
Speaker 1: And then she called me and I was like, I
Speaker 1: was like, what the fuck? Hello, Hello, Hello, and hen
Speaker 1: she was just like hey, handsome, and I immediately went
Speaker 1: back to the way my dad told me to be.
Speaker 1: I was just like, what's up? Stopped laughing. You see
Speaker 1: you laughing. This is the problem. You're not trying to listen.
Speaker 1: So I was like, what's up? And then when I
Speaker 1: said what's up, he started vibing. She came and visit
Speaker 1: me the next day and it was all on his
Speaker 1: The thing that impressed me though she asked me on
Speaker 1: first date. We in my dorm room. I was ready
Speaker 1: to smash, like, I'm eighteen. I ain't gonna lie I'm eighteen,
Speaker 1: said my wife. You know what I'm saying, long hand, slim,
Speaker 1: you got a little fatty on him. I was like,
Speaker 1: give me some of that.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm a d one athlete. I'm not thinking about no
Speaker 1: wives or nothing. So she's eating a hero and I'm like,
Speaker 1: She's like, so she's eating here. She's like, so, what's
Speaker 1: your plans in life? I was like, well, I want
Speaker 1: to be an actor. I want to do that. She
Speaker 1: was like what Martin was on TV? I was like,
Speaker 1: I want to have my own sitcom. She didn't miss
Speaker 1: a beat. She said, Okay, so how we gonna do that?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm? Man. When I tell you, I was like,
Speaker 1: she wanted to know.
Speaker 3: My dreams because at ninth because she so if you
Speaker 3: were eighteen, she was like nineteen.
Speaker 1: She was about to turn.
Speaker 3: A nineteen year old woman asking something like that on
Speaker 3: the first day, because I would have been like.
Speaker 1: To be you see what I'm saying, That's what I
Speaker 1: was listening. Come on, you're right, you're right, and the
Speaker 1: internet be telling you don't be. Don't be going out
Speaker 1: there and trying to be wifely off the first date,
Speaker 1: because she was wife she.
Speaker 2: First Also it was to the right man though, So
Speaker 2: a lot of times though it's a lot of good
Speaker 2: women that meet up and they're they're doing the right things,
Speaker 2: but it's with the wrong man. So I think that
Speaker 2: is why a lot of times you hear women giving
Speaker 2: the advice of don't do this, don't do that, because
Speaker 2: they did that it saw no results.
Speaker 1: I agree, So I will say this. I will say
Speaker 1: this though, lex I have a question. Now, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna have a question. So many women talk about these
Speaker 1: bad men. Why do women choose bad men?
Speaker 3: Red flagging and they be smacking y'all in the forehead
Speaker 3: like black eye, red flag and.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. Yeah, So.
Speaker 3: I'm not really like that though, No I be leaving
Speaker 3: the red flags, don't. I don't really play that ship
Speaker 3: like I've always had a no nonsense policy, but sometimes
Speaker 3: we really want to get into it. I feel like
Speaker 3: that's why I'm still like not married and stuff.
Speaker 1: Because I'll show you I understand what you're saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my boys, I got boys who are single, and they
Speaker 1: always on our bases. Ain't this. I'll be like, nigga,
Speaker 1: you be choosing the wrong woman every time, Like we
Speaker 1: will see the woman, the woman that he and I
Speaker 1: could tell in two minutes knock on work, not the one.
Speaker 1: But here we are two months saying, and you eat it,
Speaker 1: but D, but D. I'm like, bro, you keep choosing
Speaker 1: the same woman over and over and over again. Then
Speaker 1: your response to that is all these bitches, No.
Speaker 2: You keep choosing this one, the same one.
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm asking you, because I want to
Speaker 1: know a woman's perspective.
Speaker 2: So I'll say this. In my twenties, I was having
Speaker 2: a ball. I wasn't looking for nothing serious. I was
Speaker 2: having a good time. So I'll say as in my
Speaker 2: thirties and my mid thirties, I'm intentionally dating. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm in a relationship. I've been in a relationship for
Speaker 2: a year, so I can talk about the things that
Speaker 2: I was dealing with beforehand, and I'll just use the
Speaker 2: last guy I dated before him for example. I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna lie. A lot of times, I knew the type
Speaker 2: of men I was dating, and I knew what I
Speaker 2: was in the situation for, whether it was to have fun,
Speaker 2: he was spending money X y Z. But once I
Speaker 2: started dating intentionally and I'm like showing like who I
Speaker 2: really and what I really wanted to do in my
Speaker 2: goals the last time. I will say, a lot of
Speaker 2: men they put up a good front. Okay, they're auditioning.
Speaker 2: It's like they look at it like a job application.
Speaker 2: So if I'm applying for a job, when I show up,
Speaker 2: they'd be like, what is the worst thing about you
Speaker 2: when it comes to work? Oh, I'm just always on time.
Speaker 2: In the fact, I'm just so punctual and sometimes I
Speaker 2: work whenever I'm supposed to be clocked out. That's how
Speaker 2: men are. So you'll ask a man, You're asking all
Speaker 2: the right questions, you're doing the right things, and they're like,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, this woman is amazing. I'm not really
Speaker 2: looking for nothing serious though, but I don't want her
Speaker 2: to leave me alone because I'm not ready to be
Speaker 2: the man for her. But I don't want her to
Speaker 2: leave me alone because she's doing all these wifey things.
Speaker 2: So a lot of women have experienced that. Now, one
Speaker 2: thing about me, I don't date. I'm not a bitter dater.
Speaker 2: So just because this man does this to me, Okay,
Speaker 2: we broke up, i'ma still move on and I'm gonna
Speaker 2: still be happy and try it. I'm not gonna be
Speaker 2: tainted about love. So I feel like now I'm in
Speaker 2: a relationship where I am with somebody who appreciates the
Speaker 2: thing that I do. And it's like, but I will say,
Speaker 2: I wasn't a situation where I felt bamboozled.
Speaker 1: So can I just give you guys some insights? Sure,
Speaker 1: based on what you said, you said in your twenties
Speaker 1: you was having fun. Would you say that you bamboozled
Speaker 1: a bunch of men? Oh yeah, okay, fair, So we're
Speaker 1: in agreement, right. You know why men in their twenties
Speaker 1: can't bamboozle women because we don't got no fucking money, period.
Speaker 1: So you know what happens. We spent all of our
Speaker 1: twenties getting bamboozled. And I'm not pointing you out, Lex,
Speaker 1: but a beautiful woman like you who we may have
Speaker 1: thought like that could be my wife, and you bamboozled
Speaker 1: us in our twenties. Now a nigga got money. Now
Speaker 1: it's time to do the bamboozling. And what happens is
Speaker 1: is when a woman is now when her position late twenties,
Speaker 1: early thirties, she's like, I'm ready to be someone's wife. Well,
Speaker 1: now you've been, you finna get bamboozo And I'm just
Speaker 1: being honest. That's that's that, And I'm not saying it's okay,
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is is that you had your
Speaker 1: time in bamboozoo. A man can't bambooso until he got
Speaker 1: the resources to do some bamboozling. Show me a black
Speaker 1: man in the early twenties who don't come from a
Speaker 1: prominent family who got resources to bambootho. So you know,
Speaker 1: so then finally when they make some money, I'm finally
Speaker 1: a VP at my job. I'm thirty. Wait a minute,
Speaker 1: I can do all the things that I watched that
Speaker 1: woman do with that other guy that I liked, So
Speaker 1: now I'm gonna do that to these women and I
Speaker 1: feel like women get upset when a man does it,
Speaker 1: but then they'll openly say, like you just said, in
Speaker 1: your twenties, I was bamboozling niggas. I wasn't think.
Speaker 2: It was also a guy that had been trying to
Speaker 2: holler at me for three years.
Speaker 3: And I feel like you should never get in.
Speaker 1: So it was like, aut why you can't give that
Speaker 1: guy for three years?
Speaker 3: I don't says God bad he was. He was hounding
Speaker 3: me a year and a half, trying to holler at me.
Speaker 3: When I say, he was going above and beyond trying
Speaker 3: to get me talk to him. And then I finally
Speaker 3: gave me and I was like, Okay, let's see what's up.
Speaker 3: He played the fuck out. He played the and it
Speaker 3: took me years to get over the hurt.
Speaker 1: It took me, I'll tell you.
Speaker 3: And that's why I feel like, if you initially not
Speaker 3: interested in the man and you carved him, he gonna
Speaker 3: remember that.
Speaker 1: Leave it alone. I'm not I'm not man. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: didn't did that. I didn't do that.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry for three years.
Speaker 1: I was chasing that three years, and you made me
Speaker 1: feel like I wasn't deserving. So you know what those
Speaker 1: men do like having a bet them men be up
Speaker 1: at night, they being in bed, like just not even
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get that, just have gone. And the minutes
Speaker 1: you say hey, they like, wait a minute, this is
Speaker 1: my time. But but but the truth, you don't give
Speaker 1: him no chance. If he hasn't healed, then don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because the truth is man like, you're not wrong for
Speaker 1: wanting to party in your twenties. Yeah, Like, let's and
Speaker 1: here's the truth. Can we at least be honest for
Speaker 1: once with people. If a woman, what's the party in
Speaker 1: her twenties, let her party?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: If a man wants to party in his thirties when
Speaker 1: he first got his money, let him party. Let's stop
Speaker 1: shaming people who have worked their life for what they want,
Speaker 1: enjoying their life, and then when that person is ready
Speaker 1: to settle down, they're going to meet the right person
Speaker 1: for them. I think the problem is most people want
Speaker 1: to put a wide net around the entire species. All
Speaker 1: men act like this, because the men that I dated
Speaker 1: act like that. No, that's just the men you choose,
Speaker 1: all bitches, ain't shit, No, that's just the women you choose.
Speaker 1: My g If we start to realize that, well, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, We'll be like, we'll give each
Speaker 1: other a little bit more grace, and you know what.
Speaker 3: Circling back to your original question, I think that women
Speaker 3: I can only speak now that I'm in my thirties.
Speaker 3: I have a lot of friends and people around me
Speaker 3: who I feel like, once you get to thirty, it
Speaker 3: starts to become like we talked about this with another case.
Speaker 3: I think desperation, the desperation of being his thirty, I
Speaker 3: get it. I think when women hit thirty now it's
Speaker 3: like this time clock it is, I gotta get married,
Speaker 3: I gotta have kids. So I think when the red
Speaker 3: flags be red flagging, they be like, oh, it's fine,
Speaker 3: because I want to be married, even if it's not
Speaker 3: to the right man. Society has made me feel like
Speaker 3: I gotta be married and I gotta have kids, And
Speaker 3: then what, I'm thirty two, I don't have kids yet.
Speaker 2: They're biological clock ticking, you know.
Speaker 3: And I really think that that is more so what
Speaker 3: it is I can say for women in their thirties,
Speaker 3: cause I think when you in y'all twenties, some women
Speaker 3: do want to get married in their twenties. But a
Speaker 3: lot of women that I know they wouldn't even think
Speaker 3: about that, and then it stuff. When you turn thirty,
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, the pressure is low.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I don't thinks. I don't blame
Speaker 1: women for not wanting to be married in their twenties. Bro,
Speaker 1: Like we live. We live in a capitalist society where
Speaker 1: misogyny rules. Yeah, if you are a beautiful woman and
Speaker 1: you're getting attention from a bunch of dudes, enjoy yourself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I enjoy yourself.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: Of course everyone is going to say what you need
Speaker 1: to settle down and not be promiscuous and stuff, But
Speaker 1: let's be honest. Monogamy, much like veganism or Christianity, is
Speaker 1: a voice. Yes, someone has to choose to want to
Speaker 1: be that, and someone has to want to be that
Speaker 1: in order to enjoy that aspect of life. I think
Speaker 1: it's a disservice to people when we try to cast
Speaker 1: a wy net over everybody, like everybody got to be monogamous,
Speaker 1: everybody got to be Christian, everybody like that. We got
Speaker 1: to stop doing that because we're all different people.
Speaker 2: And I thine having that mindset. Because I do have
Speaker 2: that mindset, I don't take things out on it because
Speaker 2: everybody is different, everybody's experience is different, absolutely, So I
Speaker 2: think I agree with Drea the desperation of women in
Speaker 2: the thirties. Like I said, we just talked about this,
Speaker 2: But for me, I will say this, I'm just such
Speaker 2: a like, Okay, let it be. So now I'm like,
Speaker 2: if it's in my path to be with a man
Speaker 2: and get married, that's exactly what's going to happen. Because
Speaker 2: I know myself and I know it's a good person.
Speaker 2: I know I'm a damn good woman. So I don't
Speaker 2: have no pressure on it, you know.
Speaker 1: But what you just said makes all the sense in
Speaker 1: the world. Though. Think about it. I know who I am.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to going to define my existence on
Speaker 1: this plan it based on what all the other women
Speaker 1: in the world are doing. That's not even your plight
Speaker 1: to carry, you know what I'm saying. For me, it's
Speaker 1: like whoa Okay, Lex wants to get married. Now I'm
Speaker 1: in my thirties. I'm going to be deliberate about finding
Speaker 1: the right person. Now. Listening to the statistics and all
Speaker 1: of that shit don't really even matter because because none
Speaker 1: of that, none of that will ever fit to every
Speaker 1: man or woman in the world. I say that because
Speaker 1: monogamy works for me, period. But then when men ask me, yo, dude, man,
Speaker 1: how you do this? How you do that? The first
Speaker 1: thing I asked them do you want to be monogamous
Speaker 1: or do you think that being monogamous is the only
Speaker 1: way that you can be considered high functioning? And they're
Speaker 1: just like, well, I'm listening to these podcasts and they
Speaker 1: say monogamous men are high functioning. And I said, bro,
Speaker 1: stop just listening to people and ask yourself what you
Speaker 1: really want out of life. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: we got to stop shaming people for not following the
Speaker 1: lifestyle we follow. Monogamy works for me because Deval knows that,
Speaker 1: you know what, I love women like a lot. I
Speaker 1: do truly love women thing I do. I look at
Speaker 1: your mine, She's gorgeous. She's gorgeous. But I also know
Speaker 1: that if I'm not disciplined enough to control my urgens
Speaker 1: and I'm attacking it, running after every woman, I don't
Speaker 1: have the ability to focus on the things that's gonna
Speaker 1: help me provide for myself and my family. So monogamy
Speaker 1: works for me. There are some men who can balance
Speaker 1: both and can chase skirts and chase money and make it.
Speaker 1: I would never tell that brother, you gotta be monogamy
Speaker 1: or you not high functioning, may get the fuck out
Speaker 1: of here. For example, like a fifty cent or Floyd Mayweather.
Speaker 1: Both of them brothers are doing way better than I am.
Speaker 1: How I look telling them all, you better be monogamous
Speaker 1: or you ain't gonna make it in life. It's the
Speaker 1: same thing for women. We should never tell women you
Speaker 1: better get married or you ain't gonna make it in life.
Speaker 1: Oprah ain't never been married. She one of the richest
Speaker 1: people in America.
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying. That actually is our first stopic.
Speaker 2: But we need to ask how will we drinking? I
Speaker 2: know this episode is gonna be like this, What are
Speaker 2: we drinking today? These drinks are so good it I'm
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Speaker 3: You know, our guest, he is literally he does it all.
Speaker 3: He is, like you said, actor producer act, he is
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Speaker 3: So to yo back to your point, though, you made
Speaker 3: a really really good point when you said, like basically,
Speaker 3: you you can't convince a man that doesn't want to
Speaker 3: get married to get married. And I think that that's
Speaker 3: where a lot of women mix up too, because they're
Speaker 3: dating men who it's obvious that's not the goal, that's
Speaker 3: not his goal. So why are you even pursuing that?
Speaker 3: Why are you even staying in that situation. In order
Speaker 3: for a relationship to be successful, you have to date
Speaker 3: somebody where y'all want the same things, yes, and y'all
Speaker 3: goals aligned.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's that simple. That's why I think that the
Speaker 1: whole fifty to fifty argument is annoying. The whole who's
Speaker 1: going to be submissive to who? Is annoying and pointless
Speaker 1: because I know what I'm looking for life. Every woman
Speaker 1: in the world is not looking for the same thing
Speaker 1: I'm looking for. So what I do is those women
Speaker 1: who are not looking for what I'm looking for, I
Speaker 1: applaud them for looking for whatever they're looking for. I
Speaker 1: don't shame them. For example, they're like, I need a
Speaker 1: submissive wife who won't follow me.
Speaker 3: Okay, so that's what you look at, the type of
Speaker 3: wife you need.
Speaker 1: What if you have a woman here who is a
Speaker 1: seven eight nine figure earner, you telling me I'm supposed
Speaker 1: to tell that woman she's supposed to submit to me
Speaker 1: and she can make more. No, that woman's journey is different.
Speaker 1: In like, let her find someone, But it's social the
Speaker 1: same thing for men, right, women will sell the time.
Speaker 1: I want somebody six y two abs, make a lot
Speaker 1: of money, can fuck all night. But if that nigga
Speaker 1: just want to be a homebody and take care of
Speaker 1: his kids, there's a woman for him. It may not
Speaker 1: be for you. But why why shame him? To mold him?
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. Why try to mold him.
Speaker 2: I can shame him a little bit. I ain't gonna
Speaker 2: mold him. You can't shame it's a little bit work.
Speaker 1: So so here's the thing I I and I've been
Speaker 1: called misogynistic because of this. Really I believe it is
Speaker 1: the man's job to work. The reason is, well, I
Speaker 1: was called misogynistic because some women, and I had to
Speaker 1: agree with this segment. Some women are not made to
Speaker 1: have children. Some women don't want to have children. But
Speaker 1: you can't define their womanhood by saying if you don't
Speaker 1: have children, for a man, you're not more of a woman.
Speaker 1: And I had to mature enough as a man to
Speaker 1: understand that. You know what, that's a valid fucking point.
Speaker 1: So for me, I personally feel for devow that I
Speaker 1: want to be able to support my wife. I want
Speaker 1: to be able to make all the money, and if
Speaker 1: she wants to make money, she can. But if she
Speaker 1: don't and she wanted to be a homemaker, she could
Speaker 1: do that too. I was called misogynistic by some women
Speaker 1: who feel like I'm controlling my wife. But you know
Speaker 1: what I learned in that I'm not for that woman.
Speaker 2: She need to write a house to buzz because she
Speaker 2: got all the answers.
Speaker 1: A lot of people feel they got all the answers.
Speaker 1: You know, when you realize you don't got all the answers,
Speaker 1: that's when you start to advance in life.
Speaker 3: How do you start to evolve?
Speaker 1: When you evolved when you realize, you know what, I
Speaker 1: hadn't arrived the minutes you think you arrived, that's when
Speaker 1: you really lost.
Speaker 2: So the first topic we wanted to ask you because
Speaker 2: there's two different sayings that people always say. They always
Speaker 2: say behind every successful man is a strong woman. You know,
Speaker 2: married men are more successful. Technically show this right. And
Speaker 2: then on the other hand, they have statistics to show
Speaker 2: single women live longer, single women are happier, you know,
Speaker 2: like being independent and being free. And you know, we
Speaker 2: see people like Oprah who has a little situation, but
Speaker 2: she does what she can do. You know, we see
Speaker 2: the Tracy Ellis Ross, so we see all these women
Speaker 2: were like, hmm, that don't look so bad. So, how
Speaker 2: do you feel like as a married man, society should
Speaker 2: approach things like that?
Speaker 3: And do you feel like that's true? Like Brian and married,
Speaker 3: do you feel like, for example, your success is it
Speaker 3: attributed to a certain extent by your relations and ship
Speaker 3: in your marriage.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The first thing I will say is that I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be the person I am if it wasn't for
Speaker 1: my wife and my partner. Right when I was eighteen
Speaker 1: nineteen years old and I told Kadeen that I wanted
Speaker 1: to be an actor, I'm going to use the NFL.
Speaker 1: She made my breakfast, she did the stretches when I
Speaker 1: separated my shoulder and I had to sleep sitting on
Speaker 1: her dance. She was sitting. That's why. That's what it was.
Speaker 1: It was the shoulder that Lex. I ain't fucking with you, man.
Speaker 1: I heard my shoulder playing football. Okay, okay, I'm out
Speaker 1: here in the street. I'm out here. I got stats
Speaker 1: to prove it.
Speaker 3: Probably the brook Churst.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fight Lex before I leave. I'm gonna fight
Speaker 1: les all my Brooklyn nights. Y'all know what the Brooklyn is.
Speaker 1: The brook Up, I know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: But she was doing the stretchy.
Speaker 1: She she was all of those things. She was there
Speaker 1: when I was training for the NFL. She she was there.
Speaker 1: She she helped me create. Okay, I'm a visual learner. Right,
Speaker 1: you get playbooks. The playbooks sound like this, you know,
Speaker 1: hop the trips, right motions, scot right five twenty five
Speaker 1: f post swing, ready break. Every word, every word has
Speaker 1: a meaning. My wife made flash cards with every word
Speaker 1: in those things, and it had a definition. And that's
Speaker 1: how I practice learning the place. So she was when
Speaker 1: they know what they say. She wasn't with me shooting
Speaker 1: in the gym. She was with me shooting in the gym.
Speaker 3: Because maybe they sounded like a whole different language than me.
Speaker 1: I was like what, But that's why I praise in
Speaker 1: honor my wife's much, because she literally was. And sometimes
Speaker 1: people say, like, man, why you doing all of that
Speaker 1: like your wife? I say, yeah, maybe your wife didn't
Speaker 1: do it what my wife did, but I will. The
Speaker 1: first thing I say is I am who I am
Speaker 1: because I have a support system. Not only my wife,
Speaker 1: my parents, her parents, that the mentors in my life
Speaker 1: were poured into me. They all made the vow possible.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't just my wife. It wasn't just me,
Speaker 1: It wasn't just God. It was a combination of everything.
Speaker 1: But I will say this about statistics. First and foremost
Speaker 1: statistics are skewed because I will say this, nobody never
Speaker 1: asked me a fucking question. Where are these statistics coming from?
Speaker 1: I've been married for fourteen years and no one ever
Speaker 1: asked me.
Speaker 2: You never did, went on family feud? Who asked them?
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. We've asked one hundred would
Speaker 1: be white people. That's the first thing. You know, it's
Speaker 1: one hundred white people.
Speaker 2: You ain't.
Speaker 1: Nobody else asking, right, You see what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: the first thing we gotta do is throw out those
Speaker 1: things because they typically don't ask Black people. A lot
Speaker 1: of the things they ask and these statistics and stuff
Speaker 1: like that aren't about us, so we can just dismiss that.
Speaker 1: The second thing I will say is if we're going
Speaker 1: to rate success based on Western views, which means what
Speaker 1: white people say is considered successful, yeah, we're all going
Speaker 1: to fall short, because these views have never been made
Speaker 1: for us. Remember, we would consider three fifths of a
Speaker 1: human being in this country since since seventeen when in
Speaker 1: this country seventeen seventy four we want to consider humans Keith.
Speaker 1: So since we weren't consider humans, why would we ever
Speaker 1: listen to their rhetoric about how we're supposed to behave
Speaker 1: That's why I say, find out what works for you.
Speaker 2: I'm know somebody who listened to doctor Umar. When I
Speaker 2: see it, a walk king, I know that's right, brother.
Speaker 3: What do you call the doctor Umar?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but listen. I'm not one hundred percent
Speaker 1: always in agreement with everything doctor Umar said, but he
Speaker 1: love when he talks when he talks about the black family. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know he's cooking. He'd be cooking when you talk
Speaker 1: about the black family. If you look at the history
Speaker 1: of this country, we like. Nothing they talk about when
Speaker 1: they talk about family and relationships is ever with us.
Speaker 1: I think we will look at those things and say, well,
Speaker 1: percentages say the percentages don't include up.
Speaker 2: That was a great point because I never thought about
Speaker 2: that because honestly, when they talk about statistics, like he said,
Speaker 2: you have been married for what twelve years, wife, four kids,
Speaker 2: twenty two years and ain't nobody asked you? She never
Speaker 2: first time you asked me when Alexandroya.
Speaker 1: And you would be the candidate. Well, i'll give you
Speaker 1: another statistics. Right, what's the narrative that we hear about
Speaker 1: black men. They don't give me no, no, no, they
Speaker 1: don't like who oh, they don't like black black women.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the national average for black men who are married,
Speaker 1: what do they married to? It's got to be bla
Speaker 1: black women at what percentage? Over eighty five percent? So here,
Speaker 1: here's another one. Here's another one. But it don't matter though,
Speaker 1: because once they make money, that's when they go get
Speaker 1: white women, white women. The national average for making over
Speaker 1: two hundred thousand dollars black men, right, how many of
Speaker 1: those women men are married to black women? I'll give
Speaker 1: him bout a cools ninety five percent, not at five.
Speaker 1: This is why this is listen, because they'll show you.
Speaker 1: They'll show you the one black athlete who may be
Speaker 1: married to a white woman. Right, But then think about
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook, Russell Wilson, Von James, Steph Curry. I can
Speaker 1: keep going and going, Willie Cologne or who else? These
Speaker 1: I'm talking about my friends now that I know, Stephen Bowen,
Speaker 1: Marcus Colston, Kyle Aronson, all married, all wealthy, they money,
Speaker 1: all married to black women.
Speaker 2: And then when you hear the horror stories we got
Speaker 2: to talk about Scottie Pippot.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying, girl, what's let's.
Speaker 2: But bitch outside with future is crazy?
Speaker 1: Lex has a good point, though, because they'll show the
Speaker 1: Scottie Pippins right, and they'll say, look, this is how
Speaker 1: black men behave. But that's not the fact I'm married
Speaker 1: to a black woman. My woman is black, she's Jamaican, Evincenti,
Speaker 1: and her mom is black as a motherfucker, a grandmother
Speaker 1: Black is a motherfucker. But they'll never push that out
Speaker 1: there because it don't fall in line with the narrative
Speaker 1: they want. You got to understand that destroying the black
Speaker 1: family has been on the the the forefront of the
Speaker 1: mind of the people created this country.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: We weren't allowed to get married first, right, and even
Speaker 1: when we got married, there was a lot of times
Speaker 1: they took our women and raped our women and we
Speaker 1: had to watch because they do not want us to
Speaker 1: get together. Because if you have black the black family
Speaker 1: and we continue to work together. What's gonna happen to
Speaker 1: the wealth that happens in this country is gonna who
Speaker 1: black people are kids. How do you destroy the black
Speaker 1: wealth in this country, destroy the black family, make black
Speaker 1: women think that black men don't love them, make black
Speaker 1: men think that black women don't respect them. That's all
Speaker 1: a fallacy. It's not true. The older I get, I'm
Speaker 1: forty years old now, the more I realize that everything
Speaker 1: I've learned from mass media has been programmed by people
Speaker 1: who have an agenda. And I'm not a conspiracy theorist,
Speaker 1: but I'm not, but it is what it is. You
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I mean because I oh, we had this conversation a
Speaker 2: while back with the guests that we had and I
Speaker 2: can't remember, but we were basically talking about like government
Speaker 2: assistance and housing and things like that, and they were saying,
Speaker 2: how literally, like if you are a struggling you know,
Speaker 2: a woman, and you're on housing, you can't have a
Speaker 2: man in the house.
Speaker 1: You can't purposefully the minutes you have a man in
Speaker 1: the house, they will take yours. So you know what
Speaker 1: people started to do in the seventies. I noticed, because
Speaker 1: I have a family who've been through this. Dad may
Speaker 1: be in the home common law marriage because men was
Speaker 1: if I'm married, you can't get the assistance. I also
Speaker 1: won't be there when the person who comes and checks
Speaker 1: on the house and the kids. So when they come
Speaker 1: by this, so this woman here by herself, the dad
Speaker 1: will be in a closet, the dad will be somewhere else.
Speaker 1: I have family members who I watch go through this
Speaker 1: and they're like, you know, the government coming by. But
Speaker 1: the reason why they do that is to be able
Speaker 1: to get what they need from the government. And I
Speaker 1: hate to say this to say this, but I'm going
Speaker 1: to say this. Matter of fact, I'm not gonna say it.
Speaker 1: I'm not even give her name. But there is a
Speaker 1: talking head who always speaks about the black family in
Speaker 1: the black community, and because we have painted her as
Speaker 1: a villain, we won't listen to what her messages are.
Speaker 1: I don't agree with all of her messages. That's why
Speaker 1: I want to accept her. I won't say her name
Speaker 1: because I won't even give her I think you do.
Speaker 1: I won't give her any press on your platform. So
Speaker 1: it's fair because of what you do. So I won't
Speaker 1: do that. But when you listen to some of the
Speaker 1: things she says. She's absolutely true. The black black people
Speaker 1: in this country are the best when we are together.
Speaker 1: Look at Black Wall Street right. The minute we start
Speaker 1: to work together, they tear it down, right, and they
Speaker 1: tear it down. They tear us apart, and they tell
Speaker 1: us all the time, mass incarceration was the same thing.
Speaker 1: How can we get black fathers out of the house.
Speaker 1: Let's put them in prison. Right. Let's look at the
Speaker 1: voting cycle, right, Only four percent of black men in
Speaker 1: this country voted this year, not four percent of black men.
Speaker 1: Four percent of the voting population were black men. And
Speaker 1: the first thing they'll say is, mind you, we're only
Speaker 1: fifteen percent of the population. First they say is black
Speaker 1: men don't vote. But what they won't say is that
Speaker 1: eighty percent of the prison population is black men, and
Speaker 1: if they can't vote, it brings down the numbers. But
Speaker 1: rather than say that, you know what, they'll say, black
Speaker 1: men don't vote and they won't vote for Kamala. You
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. It's like they just do things
Speaker 1: in order to tear us apart, and we have to
Speaker 1: do a good job or a better job of staying together.
Speaker 2: Which is so crazy.
Speaker 3: Because it's like, how do we live in a tree
Speaker 3: where feelings can't vote, but one could be the president.
Speaker 3: But that's another time.
Speaker 1: Because this country was never made for us. Think about it,
Speaker 1: This constitution and everything was made for a white man.
Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna lie. I have seen that narrative
Speaker 2: a lot today because obviously when y'all see this episode,
Speaker 2: we already know that Trump has won again president. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and it's been a lot of the narrative that they
Speaker 2: were trying to blame, you know, like the black men
Speaker 2: and all this stuff. But when you saw the voting
Speaker 2: and everything they.
Speaker 3: Had the statistics, Yeah, I think voted for Kamala because
Speaker 3: I said that to my man and he went off
Speaker 3: on me.
Speaker 1: What you said to say? What you said? You said
Speaker 1: black men are going from?
Speaker 3: I was like, I feel like black men didn't show
Speaker 3: up and nothing.
Speaker 2: He was like, hold on, oh, he's gonna get them
Speaker 2: numbers out. That's one thing.
Speaker 1: I was like, my bad, I'm sorry, no, but but
Speaker 1: I mean this is this is really important for us
Speaker 1: as a community of people to stop pointing a finger
Speaker 1: at each yeah, and let me sit down with some queens.
Speaker 1: Not for enough. I'm not gonna lie to y'all. Right,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to y'all the first the minute
Speaker 1: my team sending me yo, you're gonna go to poor minds.
Speaker 1: You know why I want to sit down with black
Speaker 1: women and discuss about relationships. I told you, I've been
Speaker 1: watching y'all. I want to discuss it so that it
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be combative.
Speaker 2: Right. A long time ago, we decided to stop that
Speaker 2: gender war because we used to do that a lot.
Speaker 2: We were in that gender war.
Speaker 3: Like all they used to say we was male bashers.
Speaker 3: I never feel like we were, to be honest, I
Speaker 3: just think we had a lot of different opinions.
Speaker 1: Can I be honest? Sure, I never thought that y'all
Speaker 1: were male bashing, but I did think that based on
Speaker 1: what you've lived through in your life, you told your truth,
Speaker 1: and the truth is a lot of people don't want
Speaker 1: to hear your truth if it doesn't fit what they
Speaker 1: want yeah to be. So I can understand why you
Speaker 1: got that label and not say that it was fair.
Speaker 1: But I mean I get the same label too. If
Speaker 1: I tell my truth about life, whoever is on the
Speaker 1: opposite side of that truth is going to feel like
Speaker 1: I'm bashing them.
Speaker 2: And that goes to a good point, because that's why
Speaker 2: our community is so separated. Because you'll say one thing,
Speaker 2: they'll be ready to cancel you and not solidary. One
Speaker 2: thing about the white folks.
Speaker 1: They gonna stick together. They gonna stick together, but they
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna challenge you on this. We talk about.
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Speaker 1: Today we talk about black Twitter. Why because we're all
Speaker 1: on black Twitter. How much time if you spend on
Speaker 1: white Twitter or Spanish Twitter.
Speaker 2: But what I can say Chinese Twitter, you're right, but
Speaker 2: black Twitter is, but black Twitter ourst enemy exactly. Black
Speaker 2: Twitter is also the people who be dragging me everything
Speaker 2: just because I'll be like, oh I don't like pork chops.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you don't like sick. Don't don't even
Speaker 1: bring up grits because if you talk about grits on
Speaker 1: black Twitter, whether it's sugar problem. But what I will
Speaker 1: say this is you don't know the beefs that go
Speaker 1: on in the other Twitter. We don't be on it.
Speaker 1: White people be beefing, bro. I've seen white people and
Speaker 1: white men and white women going at it over Taylor
Speaker 1: Swift because white women been saying Taylor Swift is their saviors,
Speaker 1: She's their Beyonce. Right, So white women is up here.
Speaker 1: I'm independent, and I've seen white men going at them.
Speaker 1: There was there was a post on white Twitter today,
Speaker 1: White Twitter Twitter that Fox News posted that Taylor Swift
Speaker 1: is a hypocrite because she always talks about climate change,
Speaker 1: but she flew a private jet to get to the game,
Speaker 1: and it has more A private jet has more emissions
Speaker 1: than any veg. So I'm watching these white people go
Speaker 1: back and forth, and I'll saying, you know what's funny.
Speaker 1: If this was a black news site and this was Beyonce,
Speaker 1: we would be saying that black people are our own
Speaker 1: worst enemy. White people do the same thing. Today's Stars
Speaker 1: two and they people, we got to stop giving them
Speaker 1: a past, like they don't.
Speaker 2: I don't give them a past because I'll say this
Speaker 2: because people always look at black podcasts, they be like, oh,
Speaker 2: they don't do that, man. White podcasts be doing the
Speaker 2: same they do. The podcast take away the microphone. I
Speaker 2: agree as far as Like what you're saying is they
Speaker 2: be doing the same thing as far as they talk
Speaker 2: about relationship tipes and they talk about fifty to fifty,
Speaker 2: they do this.
Speaker 1: They do the same things.
Speaker 2: But when I say solidarity, I'm talking about when it
Speaker 2: comes to like one cause as serious and as big
Speaker 2: as politics, they do not care that this man has
Speaker 2: a feeling he's been accused of rape, assault, everything under
Speaker 2: Sunday Like, we don't want a black woman in there,
Speaker 2: so we gonna come together. And that's what I mean.
Speaker 1: I feel when it comes to.
Speaker 2: Making a change or what kind of change that they
Speaker 2: want you, they don't care about what's white women As
Speaker 2: a woman, it doesn't matter what race you are as
Speaker 2: a woman. To vote for Trump is absolutely insane. But
Speaker 2: what they do is they're gonna stick by their skin
Speaker 2: color before what's even best for them as it's an
Speaker 2: individual person.
Speaker 1: So that's what I think.
Speaker 3: It's also a marriage thing though, because I was having
Speaker 3: a conversation. I was having a conversation with I'm men
Speaker 3: and he was just like, to be honest, a lot
Speaker 3: of people didn't vote for her because people in marriages
Speaker 3: want to have babies. If that's like like most people
Speaker 3: are one policy voters, So a lot of people voting
Speaker 3: for Kamala just because she was more you know, pro choice.
Speaker 3: And he was basically saying, like people who are married,
Speaker 3: women who are married, they don't care about abortion men.
Speaker 3: But it's not about the abortion man, because what happens
Speaker 3: when you're on the table and you're hemmerid I'm saying,
Speaker 3: I feel like dying because they're looking at abortion as Oh,
Speaker 3: I have sex with somebody and I got pregnant. There's
Speaker 3: women on the table that are hemorrhaging and they're dying. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and they can't.
Speaker 2: Abort the baby because it's illegal. I don't care that
Speaker 2: you went to the club and had sex with somebody.
Speaker 2: Now you're pregnant. Yea, that's not what we're talking about.
Speaker 2: But they're using that as an excuse. But they're not
Speaker 2: looking at the thousands and thousands of black women who
Speaker 2: are dying giving birth. You know what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 2: a much bigger issue. So I get But as a.
Speaker 1: White woman, why do you but guess?
Speaker 2: But it's going to be different when you sit on
Speaker 2: you have a you have a.
Speaker 1: Good point, and this is what I will have to say.
Speaker 1: We as a Black community, expect everybody to just understand
Speaker 1: our plight and care about our plight, and the plight
Speaker 1: don't address you while why would a white why would
Speaker 1: a Karen care about a Dre' see?
Speaker 2: Black women, you see what I'm saying, they wouldn't.
Speaker 1: And if we're being fair about not representing, seventy eight
Speaker 1: percent of black men voted for Kamala. Ninety one percent
Speaker 1: of Black women voted for Kamala. Not that many white
Speaker 1: people voted for Trump like it wasn't in the nineties
Speaker 1: and the seventies. There were less white people who voted
Speaker 1: for Trump, which means there were less white people who
Speaker 1: were in agreement with his policies and his politics, which
Speaker 1: means white people don't always rock with white people. The
Speaker 1: bottom line is is that black people only fifteen percent
Speaker 1: of the population. It's fifty population, then Kamala would be
Speaker 1: the president. But the truth is is that we're still
Speaker 1: the minority, and we would need our Latino and Latina
Speaker 1: sisters and brothers, and yes, I mean I mean a lot.
Speaker 1: A lot of those groups failed us. But that brings
Speaker 1: me back to my point. We should not ever be
Speaker 1: worried about any of those groups.
Speaker 2: This is that's like this, this is the building we
Speaker 2: got to the people of color, the POC and trying
Speaker 2: to group us all together this election. You didn't know before,
Speaker 2: you know now it ain't no one one for all groups.
Speaker 2: Oh we are people of color.
Speaker 1: That's not what it's getting. No, it's never been that.
Speaker 2: It's never it's never been that. I mean, they've always
Speaker 2: tried to group us together. So I just hope that
Speaker 2: this woke up our I.
Speaker 3: Mean they do, but I think that us being a
Speaker 3: part of the community, we know it's always being a divide.
Speaker 2: I was having a conversation with some I was on live.
Speaker 3: I was on TikTok Live because I know you've watched
Speaker 3: probably some of our shows whatever, but I talked about
Speaker 3: being apt and stuff. So like my biological dad is
Speaker 3: half Dominican. So I was on live one day and
Speaker 3: somebody had said something about that and they was like,
Speaker 3: but I was like, I'm still like because they were like,
Speaker 3: aren't you mixed or something? And I was like, no,
Speaker 3: I'm not mixed. Like my biological dad is half Dominican,
Speaker 3: but my grandfather was Afro Latino, like he was a
Speaker 3: black man and ethnicity, and.
Speaker 2: They was like they was like don't.
Speaker 3: They was like, don't say that on Live Dreia it
Speaker 3: do it do? And they was like, don't say that
Speaker 3: on Live Drea because you know, Dominicans get mad when
Speaker 3: you say they black. But it's like, but why y'all
Speaker 3: on the same island with Haiti and y'all look just
Speaker 3: like facts, But y'all mad that people say y'all black.
Speaker 2: I mean it's always been.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? Man, it's easy. It's
Speaker 1: easier to be accepted when you are in alignment with
Speaker 1: European value. M It's that simple, like we can't sit
Speaker 1: here and make it seem like that ain't what it is.
Speaker 1: The reason why Puerto Ricans and Dominicans beef is because
Speaker 1: Puerto Ricans say, well, we're Americans, you're not a marria Can.
Speaker 1: But then when you look at Puerto Rican culture, they
Speaker 1: tend to assimilate to European ideals, whereas Dominicans, like you say,
Speaker 1: look like Haitians. They share the same island Spanish, you
Speaker 1: see when they just speak Spanish. But they was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not black, I'm Dominican. If you understand. Oh god,
Speaker 1: so here's a funny thing, right, you look at me
Speaker 1: I'm from New York. You look at me. Right, There's
Speaker 1: a bunch of Dominicans walk into a bodegga. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you'll probably let me get a baker egg and cheese,
Speaker 1: like all you Dominican. They start speaking Spanish like no,
Speaker 1: I'm not Dominican, I'm black. And I'm like, yeah, we
Speaker 1: could be brothers. They literally say to me, I'm black,
Speaker 1: I'm Dominican. Yeah, and they they'll be darker than me. Please.
Speaker 1: I just if there's one thing I want you all
Speaker 1: to think about, don't shame people for their ideals. I
Speaker 1: don't understand where they're coming from. And even as ignorant
Speaker 1: and as it is, like for example, Dominicans saying I'm
Speaker 1: not black, as ignorant as it is, you got to understand, like,
Speaker 1: you know what, that person's trying to survive and exist
Speaker 1: in this world. And if they got something negative to
Speaker 1: say to me because I said the dominicand that's where
Speaker 1: they are in that moment, I'm not gonna waste no
Speaker 1: energy going back at something.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like that's earlier about like
Speaker 2: the percentages of what people make and.
Speaker 1: And how Yeah, yeah, that's that's how you learn to
Speaker 1: love people and not be so upset when they disagree
Speaker 1: with you. You're like, okay, you disagree with me because
Speaker 1: you're going through something the value you'd always da da Okay,
Speaker 1: you will never understand because you know what you may
Speaker 1: be right. I may never understand. But what I did
Speaker 1: was I put out some content and it made you
Speaker 1: feel a way. So then now you got to deal
Speaker 1: with how you feel. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: that's how I address everything I had two years ago
Speaker 1: is when the slap happened, and I had people in
Speaker 1: the industry ask me, what's your thoughts about this? And
Speaker 1: this is always with my answer. I said, well, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you like this. If your father and a dad
Speaker 1: and you you've been in a public eye and your
Speaker 1: kids have been scrutinized and been called names, and your
Speaker 1: wife has been picked on and stuff, you know who
Speaker 1: you side with? You side with Will If you're a
Speaker 1: comedian and you're just trying to do your art and
Speaker 1: you're trying to go out hand and entertain people and
Speaker 1: you just got slapped on stage, you know who you
Speaker 1: side with, Chris Rock. If you're a content creator and
Speaker 1: you you know you out here trying to make the
Speaker 1: best images possible, and then you're upset that Will Smith
Speaker 1: and Chris Rock destroyed the Oscars. You side with Will
Speaker 1: Packer because Will Packer is the one who produced the Oscars,
Speaker 1: the first black producer, and the Oscars happened in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two. And this is what we gotta deal with.
Speaker 1: If you're a woman and you feel like you've never
Speaker 1: been protected and finally someone stood up and slapped the
Speaker 1: shit out of somebody, you siding with Jada. And when
Speaker 1: I say that, people be like, I never thought about
Speaker 1: it like that. That's how we gotta think about life, Yo,
Speaker 1: think about what you're going through in a moment. You're
Speaker 1: gonna side with, not who's right, You're gonna side with
Speaker 1: who you relate to. You know what I'm saying, there's
Speaker 1: no black and white right or wrong. There's so many
Speaker 1: shades of great. And you got to start asking yourself
Speaker 1: if I felt like this, what am I going through?
Speaker 1: That made me relate to that? And then start thinking
Speaker 1: like that, because that's what I did the minute it happened.
Speaker 1: The first thing I said was good for that motherfucker
Speaker 1: he got slapt because I'm tired of him.
Speaker 3: And then I had to think about, like shit, because
Speaker 3: that comment was just so unnecessarious.
Speaker 1: It was unnecessary, It was the wrong time. It wasn't
Speaker 1: his first time saying something to you. Yeah, like they
Speaker 1: had a lot, they had what he was from.
Speaker 2: When I found out that, you know, he was trying
Speaker 2: to you know, that's what it made it a little different.
Speaker 1: They didn't intention yeah, yeah, since since two thousand and
Speaker 1: I think it was twenty seventeen, the first time he
Speaker 1: hosted the Oscars. But the reason why I brought that
Speaker 1: point is I think I hope people listen to this
Speaker 1: and realize them when I disagree with someone, Am I
Speaker 1: disagreeing with them because I really don't agree? Or am
Speaker 1: I disagreeing because what they're saying triggered something in me
Speaker 1: that I had to look at myself, right, you.
Speaker 2: Know, so in the same breast as we were talking about.
Speaker 2: And I hate to bring it back to these it
Speaker 2: was so many I hate to say this, but it
Speaker 2: was a lot of like higher up like white people
Speaker 2: who were so like, will how dare you? How dare you?
Speaker 2: But y'all are acting like this man gutted him on
Speaker 2: stage in front of you know what, I'm saying he
Speaker 2: was it right. No, you should put your hands on nobody. Now.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that what he did was whatever, but
Speaker 2: y'all were acting like he just hung this man on
Speaker 2: National TV Live. But then, y'all are the same people
Speaker 2: who were in Trump's corner understandable and things for we
Speaker 2: know for a fact that he's done things that could
Speaker 2: land you in prison.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you something funny that you said that
Speaker 1: My thirteen year old son brought up to me made me.
Speaker 1: That gave me perspective. And he wasn't thirty at the time.
Speaker 1: He said, Dad, I got a question. Why were so
Speaker 1: many more people upset about the slap than they were
Speaker 1: about George Floyd. Hmm, okay, this is mine at the time.
Speaker 1: Twelve year old son. Yeah, And I had to explain him.
Speaker 1: I said, you know, when people can't see themselves in
Speaker 1: a victim, they think it does matter. So if you're
Speaker 1: not a black man, if you never dealt with substance abuse,
Speaker 1: if you're not a George Floyd, then you look at
Speaker 1: that situation and then you think of every excuse as
Speaker 1: to why that had to happen. But then if you're
Speaker 1: a rich, pampered elitist white person and you see another
Speaker 1: person walk over and slap someone on stage on national TV.
Speaker 1: The first thing you think of is this is appalling.
Speaker 1: That's how I had to explain it to him, and
Speaker 1: he was just like, that doesn't make sense. Said, emotions
Speaker 1: don't make sense, bro, you know what I'm saying. Like emotions,
Speaker 1: the fact that they feel a way. You see what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. No, I say that don't got to make sense.
Speaker 3: It only has to make sense to the person that's
Speaker 3: having any emotion.
Speaker 2: Something that It was just a moment for them to
Speaker 2: like shit on wheel too, like the waiting. They cannot
Speaker 2: stand that the one of the number one actors in
Speaker 2: the world who can literally drop a movie right now
Speaker 2: it's gonna do millions in the box office because movies,
Speaker 2: it's hard to do a movie right now. Most movies
Speaker 2: are going to the theaters, but they're also going to stream. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: Will Smith can drop a movie and it's gonna be nowhere,
Speaker 2: and he'll put it at AMC only and it's still
Speaker 2: gonna do one hundred million. So this was their moment,
Speaker 2: like we got it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I still agree. I agree. I would have to
Speaker 1: be a thousand whenever you get a chance to hate
Speaker 1: someone who's doing so well that they're doing better than me.
Speaker 3: I mean, but we always get we always get a
Speaker 3: different response. So many people was like, I mean, this
Speaker 3: last Bad Boys movie, it was good, but let this
Speaker 3: be the last one. Y'all ain't say that about y'all
Speaker 3: ain't said that about Rocky.
Speaker 2: Y'all didn't say that about it.
Speaker 3: And it's like fifteen reason said three words.
Speaker 2: Bro, we know they killed the dog. I'm sorry, and
Speaker 2: they got ten motherfucker John Wicks. Y'all, let them Bad Boys.
Speaker 1: Keep coming because I'm gonna still go watch you every time.
Speaker 1: Every time. I'm gonna watch every time. I watched every
Speaker 1: Bad Boy. That's my favorite movie.
Speaker 2: I'll watched sorry that with a son in law d.
Speaker 1: Favorite part of the movie. It was a bad part,
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Speaker 3: If We've been wanting to talk to somebody that's married
Speaker 3: about it for a while because I grew up in
Speaker 3: a two parent household. My parents were married my whole life,
Speaker 3: and my mom, she always, you know, tells me that
Speaker 3: her and my dad they just had one joint bank account,
Speaker 3: and I'd be like, girl, you won't have a little stash.
Speaker 3: But then I ain't never been married, So maybe that's
Speaker 3: the wrong ideology.
Speaker 1: To have, don't. I don't think it's the wrong I
Speaker 1: don't think it's the wrong ideology. Like Kadein and I,
Speaker 1: we have multiple bank accounts. Okay, we have our business
Speaker 1: bank account where all of the money come because that's how.
Speaker 3: You avoid are we like a married couple, you know,
Speaker 3: being in business with somebody who's like But we got
Speaker 3: the same type of citus.
Speaker 1: So I also got I almost got canceled being canceled.
Speaker 1: I said, marriage is a business.
Speaker 3: I mean it is.
Speaker 1: Well, the Bible boppers came to me and was like,
Speaker 1: marriage is a covenant on the God. The fact that
Speaker 1: you said marriage is a business, I can't follow. I said, fine,
Speaker 1: if that's how it made you feel, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, That's how I felt. I said, Hey, I
Speaker 1: think two things can be true. I didn't say that
Speaker 1: it wasn't a covenant of the but it is definitely
Speaker 1: a business right. Kadin and I share a business account.
Speaker 1: Under that business account, we have a trust. All of
Speaker 1: our money goes to our trust, our kids first, to
Speaker 1: make sure that we're good. Then we have a joint
Speaker 1: bank account, which is our savings. Her and I agree,
Speaker 1: this is what we're working on in this calendar year.
Speaker 1: Under that. She got her own checking account and I
Speaker 1: got my own checking account because I don't want you
Speaker 1: checking me on what I'm trying to buy, and I
Speaker 1: don't want to have to check you on what you
Speaker 1: trying to buy because you're also an individual.
Speaker 2: But as long as but all the money goes through
Speaker 2: the business account, and you can.
Speaker 1: Still absolutely no, I can't. I can't see her checking.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying. But you know how much goes in
Speaker 2: there every every week?
Speaker 1: Every week? I know so because because that's the partnership.
Speaker 1: Partnership is. And but the thing is her having her
Speaker 1: own her little stash. I ask her sometime, like how
Speaker 1: much money you got in your checking account? And she's like,
Speaker 1: I got a little song. Why I just make it
Speaker 1: on and I still I'm making sure you're good. Because
Speaker 1: one thing about Kadeena, She's gonna ask me. She was like, baby,
Speaker 1: I saw this bag, and I'm like, why are you
Speaker 1: asking me? You got your money? Yeah, And she's like, no,
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure that we are good.
Speaker 1: And I tell her, by the time it gets to
Speaker 1: that account, which is your account, You're gonna ask no
Speaker 1: fucking questions because I'm not asking no questions. If I'm
Speaker 1: a plan something for you and surprise you, I don't
Speaker 1: want you to know what I'm supprised. My vice is
Speaker 1: not her vice. I like cars. I like cars. She
Speaker 1: likes bags and shoes and trips. I don't want her
Speaker 1: to have to She's an individual. Imagine somebody's baby. Can
Speaker 1: I buy? Get the fuck? You're an adult and she works.
Speaker 1: She works, so you have your money that goes to you.
Speaker 1: I got my money to go to But ultimately, the
Speaker 1: estate building and the legacy building is already done before
Speaker 1: it gets to that point. So at that point, there's
Speaker 1: no arguments because we've already taken care of the kids
Speaker 1: and ourselves, you know. And the truth is I made
Speaker 1: that a priority when we first got together. I told
Speaker 1: her I said, Yo, if we're going to live together
Speaker 1: and be together, we got to be able to discuss
Speaker 1: finance in real time.
Speaker 2: That's an uncomfortable conversation. What but you know what I
Speaker 2: had I tell you all the time, if you can't
Speaker 2: have an uncomfortable conversation with your partner, your friend, your family,
Speaker 2: that exactly. Uncomfortable conversations always lead to growth every time.
Speaker 1: But you also realize that the uncomfortable conversations you're having
Speaker 1: isn't because that person just wants to be defiant or you.
Speaker 1: It's because y'all grew up differently. And I learned that
Speaker 1: my father in law never discussed with my wife finances.
Speaker 1: He was the bread well he wasn't. Well, this is
Speaker 1: another thing. My wife's mom was the breadwinner. Jamaican woman
Speaker 1: came over, became a nurse, director of nurse and she
Speaker 1: made over one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 1: Her father was a CNA. CNA's you know, they aren't wives.
Speaker 1: He made about forty five kids, but all the money
Speaker 1: they got collectively he bought property in the eighties and nineties,
Speaker 1: so here he wasn't the type of man that made
Speaker 1: a lot of money. On the salary, but he had
Speaker 1: the mental fortitude and the vision to buy multiple properties
Speaker 1: and put all of their kids through college with the
Speaker 1: properties he bought in equity within the So watching that,
Speaker 1: watching my dad, I said, Okay, it's my job as
Speaker 1: the man to make sure that we have a plan financially.
Speaker 1: But I don't want my wife to feel like she's
Speaker 1: a child in the house. And she got to come
Speaker 1: to me every day and be like, Babe, I want
Speaker 1: to get a nun. Here's your salary based on what
Speaker 1: you make. Here's my salary based on what I make.
Speaker 1: My salary goes to the kids like I just don't.
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm like, I'm gonna lie. My wife bought this.
Speaker 1: I was about to say, you want you want to
Speaker 1: hear a funny story? Funny stories. Thirty eighth birthday, my
Speaker 1: wife says to me. He's like, hey, baby, get up,
Speaker 1: You're going to the mall, like the mall, Like it's
Speaker 1: my birthday. Why the fuck we going to the mall.
Speaker 1: Like we go to the mall, we go to the jeweler.
Speaker 1: She goes, get whatever you want. I know that this
Speaker 1: is my wife. Now now now mind you, I'm the
Speaker 1: I'm the breadwinner. She'd be frinking. And when I tell you,
Speaker 1: I felt like a bad bitch in it.
Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, I can get down.
Speaker 1: Get I got this watch, I got this bracelet, I
Speaker 1: got this necklace, he said. And I was like, is
Speaker 1: this too much? Is too much? And she was like no,
Speaker 1: get it off. She's like, get it off. And then
Speaker 1: when she went and got she got me this because
Speaker 1: I don't I don't buy jewelry, so she got me
Speaker 1: all of these things. She got me all these things.
Speaker 1: You brought it for my birthday. This is why I
Speaker 1: wear it because I want people know she got me
Speaker 1: all of these van cleaves. I don't know what a
Speaker 1: vain clee was.
Speaker 2: I was like, no, that this that is expensive.
Speaker 1: That risks. She taught me about Van Cleave and Cardier bracelets.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, man, you get to do what you
Speaker 1: want to do as a woman. That's got to make
Speaker 1: you feel empowered. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Because
Speaker 1: she make home money.
Speaker 2: Period. Man, he is expensive.
Speaker 1: Now that's the fact. If a woman comes to me,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be like listen, now, listen, I'll smash Can
Speaker 1: you get me an ap ice style? That's that's hilarious.
Speaker 1: I'm expensive. I'm a bad bitch. I'm expensive. I thought it.
Speaker 2: So now it's time take it into the big, big foul.
Speaker 1: We don't get in your business to look shoulder. That's
Speaker 1: my wife about the shoulder.
Speaker 2: I am so good. Okay, this is funny.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: So we were talking about snogamy earlier, right, and we
Speaker 2: were talking about you know you were You're saying like
Speaker 2: that is a decision that you made what you wanted to.
Speaker 2: But monogamy does look different for you know, everybody. So
Speaker 2: I just want to know, not saying that you do
Speaker 2: this or anybody. I'm just saying, what is your opinion
Speaker 2: on hall passes? And let me define hall passes for
Speaker 2: the big that are watching. So a hall pass is
Speaker 2: basically like a man or a woman they let their
Speaker 2: partner like, Okay, you can go out whatever it is
Speaker 2: like once a year, twice a year and do whatever
Speaker 2: you want with whoever you want, and that's your hall pass.
Speaker 2: I can't get mad. I don't ask you what. There's
Speaker 2: no conversation about it, and that's your hall pass. So
Speaker 2: how do you feel about hall passes?
Speaker 1: Me? Personally, I'm not a whole past god selfish. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: But I also understand that my wife is selfish. So
Speaker 1: when it comes to that, I know that I have
Speaker 1: to do my best to be everything she needs. People said,
Speaker 1: if I why you work out all the time. I
Speaker 1: work out all the time because when I get out
Speaker 1: the shower, I want my wife to look at me
Speaker 1: and be like, yeah, yeah, I got so I get
Speaker 1: out the shower and slow motion with you. I'm good
Speaker 1: with you. I'm like, you see this glisten. You see
Speaker 1: this glisten? Baby? Do you see the glisten? That's what
Speaker 1: I do, and I and I think it's important that
Speaker 1: men understand it's just important for us to keep ourselves
Speaker 1: up as we ask our women to keep ourselves up.
Speaker 1: I like a slim waist, fat ass, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Some some perky joint. Some I like the
Speaker 1: full lips. Yeah. I like a nice you know, nice,
Speaker 1: subtle makeup. I don't like too much makeup. I like
Speaker 1: subtle makeup, light beat, you know what I'm saying. Not
Speaker 1: too much contour. I don't like the contour too much.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I don't like that. Man.
Speaker 1: I got I got my demands. I feel you but
Speaker 1: my wife got her demands too, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I got to stay six packed up. You know,
Speaker 1: she like broad shoulders, she like a big chest. I'm
Speaker 1: ab ump like im. Don't I cut I cut dairy
Speaker 1: out my dollet, I cut red meat. My wife told
Speaker 1: me what she like. I was like, okay, okay. She
Speaker 1: she like a strong man with a strong physique. So
Speaker 1: I still deadlift, I still squat, I still hang clean.
Speaker 1: Because if I got a picture I picked, I pick
Speaker 1: off up here, I'll be like, come on, baby, I
Speaker 1: put her on here. I just like, come on baby.
Speaker 1: Sometimes women like the lift up, you know, they like
Speaker 1: to climb on. And it's like, let me grab here.
Speaker 1: And just she's five five.
Speaker 2: Small right the average, and I'm five eleven.
Speaker 1: I'm five eleven, So I know most women prefer six
Speaker 1: oneing up. I said, I understand that, but I'm not
Speaker 1: six one. You know what I'm saying. But I'm strong though,
Speaker 1: no father love, it ain't too shy of it, but
Speaker 1: it ain't six to one. And I get you. And
Speaker 1: one thing I tell you, gentlemen, if you have deficiencies
Speaker 1: in your life, man, don't don't be upset about it.
Speaker 1: I could never be six to one. But what I
Speaker 1: will do is lift my ass so that I can
Speaker 1: you know, you know what I'm saying, And I eat
Speaker 1: right so that I can be here. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I don't do the two minute joint. If
Speaker 1: we're gonna be honest, I know. I am the type
Speaker 1: of lover I love so never a quickie. Sometimes I
Speaker 1: don't like quickies. You want to know why I don't like.
Speaker 2: I don't like long sakes either, though I get that
Speaker 2: she don't like long So we got four kids, she
Speaker 2: don't got time for all, but she do like to orgasm.
Speaker 2: I think it needs, Yeah, it needs to be a
Speaker 2: good amount of time.
Speaker 1: But but so we we've been married for a long
Speaker 1: time and not for nothing. Men do like the long
Speaker 1: sex sessions because we like to be in there. We
Speaker 1: like to see y'all. Yeah, but I've learned to understand.
Speaker 1: I've understood that if you're not helping your women get
Speaker 1: to her place, you can't have long sessions. I've also
Speaker 1: learned that if she gets to her place too fast,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be over. So what I learned how to
Speaker 1: do is help my wife edge, which means I'll keep
Speaker 1: her on the like, this is this is my move.
Speaker 1: You know I'm gonna put y'all up on because they
Speaker 1: don't know this is my this is my thing. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you the game, this is what you do,
Speaker 1: this is what you do. Tell you, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you that's what you do. Right. I love to see
Speaker 1: my woman enjoy sex. For the first thing I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do is I'm gonna put my mouth on it. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I got nice lips. I know
Speaker 1: women like my lips, so I make sure that she
Speaker 1: did right. Then what I do is I make sure
Speaker 1: it's right there to the point, and then I stop.
Speaker 1: Then I beat that thing up. Because when I beat
Speaker 1: that thing up, because now she's edging, I feel like no.
Speaker 1: I think it's important for men and women to understand
Speaker 1: that men don't only think about themselves when it comes
Speaker 1: to sex. I get her right to where she edges.
Speaker 1: Then I beat that thing up. And then when I'm
Speaker 1: beating that thing up getting what I want and I
Speaker 1: know that I'm about to, that's when I stopped. That's
Speaker 1: why y'all go. Then I put a back on her
Speaker 1: back and I say, baby, hold this one more time,
Speaker 1: and then I just.
Speaker 2: There you putting this drink.
Speaker 1: Then I make I make them means I get them
Speaker 1: legs shaking. I'm gonna get them legs shaken. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get them lugs shaking. Once the legs starts shaking, that's
Speaker 1: when I get behind that joint and I just you
Speaker 1: see the should I get behind.
Speaker 2: That, he'll be beating that up.
Speaker 1: Four kids later, baby, okay one half? Four kids? Was
Speaker 1: that like the golf was it?
Speaker 2: Just like?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: We both we had them three we both came from Okay.
Speaker 1: So I told her in college, I only have boys.
Speaker 1: I don't have girls. And I told her that right,
Speaker 1: I'm not lying, but I wanted a girl. You don't
Speaker 1: wanted the girl because I felt like my wife deserved
Speaker 1: a little version of her that she.
Speaker 3: Could groom into being, you know, and want have been
Speaker 3: so cute because y'all kids are extremely.
Speaker 4: That.
Speaker 2: That's crazy though, because I think my sister is like that.
Speaker 2: She only has boys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, She's like, does she want to have another one?
Speaker 1: I think they do. I think they do.
Speaker 2: But she's like, I can't deal with this. She's like,
Speaker 2: I'm in the house with three boys.
Speaker 1: Three men.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. So for your wife, oh lord,
Speaker 2: And I've.
Speaker 3: Been following you and your wife on social media for
Speaker 3: a while because, like I said, I'm a I'm a
Speaker 3: fan of listens and I love y'all dynamic too. But
Speaker 3: like I know that y'all said, y'all not gonna have
Speaker 3: any more kids.
Speaker 1: You can't. Yeah, you can't have any more kids. I
Speaker 1: gotta rect me know that's right. You see, he needed
Speaker 1: one the alone, like I didn't need one.
Speaker 2: That show.
Speaker 1: Y'all we are the Only reason why God to a
Speaker 1: sected me is because she was postpartum, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: after the last one, and she got on birth control.
Speaker 1: But the birth control made her knee mick and I
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, you've already did enough to give us
Speaker 1: for kids. Let me do my parts. Plus I thank you.
Speaker 1: I received that, But I also was being selfish, and
Speaker 1: I knew that if I had a resected me and
Speaker 1: she didn't have to worry about it, she would be
Speaker 1: more inclined to be you know what I'm saying, I
Speaker 1: am freaking so listen. I will say this about monogamy.
Speaker 1: This is why I enjoy monogamy. I'm nasty clearly. I
Speaker 1: like to I like to lick and kiss, and I
Speaker 1: like i'm I'm I'm the type of guy that kay,
Speaker 1: come up here, sit up, sit up here, let me.
Speaker 3: You can't do that whatever, But do you feel like
Speaker 3: that's why y'all's relationship in y'all marriage have lasted so
Speaker 3: long because y'all keep his spike.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'm allowed to be the sexual being that I
Speaker 1: am because my wife embraces it. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: come home and have to deal with that's my camera man,
Speaker 1: My camera man over there, that's my boy Matt. He
Speaker 1: will tell you around nine thirty, right, no matter how
Speaker 1: many people we got in the house, Kadeen is gonna
Speaker 1: go put on some red shorts they say co ed
Speaker 1: on the back. It's gonna be a crop top. Matt
Speaker 1: will be the one to say, yo, trying to wrap
Speaker 1: this ship up because she knows what her husband needs.
Speaker 1: She knows my oldest son, Jackson knows Jackson.
Speaker 2: Will come to me like that, Oh I have a jackson,
Speaker 2: my nephew's Jackson, and you'll be like, you.
Speaker 1: Know, And that's the responsibility as a man. My responsibility
Speaker 1: is provided make sure that I give everything I have
Speaker 1: sexualy to my wife. My wife understands that it's my opportunity,
Speaker 1: it's my obligation to make sure my husband's good.
Speaker 2: But I love that fun too. It's say I love
Speaker 2: that like I love hearing their perspectiveness because it makes
Speaker 2: you actually look forward to being married, which which makes
Speaker 2: me have a question for you. Okay, y'all. So now
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I wanted to ask you because, like I
Speaker 3: feel like, your beautiful family, your beautiful wife, so many
Speaker 3: people look up to y'all as couple goals. So do
Speaker 3: you ever feel the pressure to be a couple goals?
Speaker 1: It's funny. It's funny you ask that question because the
Speaker 1: first thing I hate, the whole couple of goals things. Yes,
Speaker 1: in this conversation, I realized I don't think that there's
Speaker 1: one monolithic way to describe a couple. So when you
Speaker 1: say a couple goals, people are asking, we all got
Speaker 1: to be that way? Know the fuck you don't? You know?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Nobody has to emulate me
Speaker 1: and Kadeen to be a couple goals. So I hate it,
Speaker 1: but I do understand why we get that label. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's pressure because I'm just being myself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if I wasn't truly in love and wasn't truly monogamous
Speaker 1: and didn't really value my wife, it be pressure because
Speaker 1: I'm like, I got to keep this shit up, but
Speaker 1: I really get to wake up in the morning, look
Speaker 1: at my wife, love her, love my kids, love my life,
Speaker 1: and just live it, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: I don't feel a need to put on. This is
Speaker 1: who I am. I can talk about my wife and
Speaker 1: all day and not feel like putting on because this
Speaker 1: is how we live.
Speaker 2: You know. I love that for y'all. I love that
Speaker 2: for her because I'm not gonna lie. Like I said,
Speaker 2: I'm not a man, but my being a woman in
Speaker 2: my experience at dating, you know, y'all both have something
Speaker 2: very rare and beautiful. So it's good to see a
Speaker 2: healthy relationship but also people that not not admire but appreciate.
Speaker 1: I appreciate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, seeing the appreciation. I think everybody can see
Speaker 2: that and be like, okay, it's possible because I think
Speaker 2: for us as black women, like she said, getting in
Speaker 2: our thirties, you kind of lose hope a little bit.
Speaker 2: You lose hope to finding your partner or your forever.
Speaker 2: You'd be like, you know what, I'm okay with this,
Speaker 2: and I'm okay with that, but you know that gives
Speaker 2: us hope. And I think that's okay, not necessarily being
Speaker 2: couple goals, but just letting us know like, hey, there's
Speaker 2: still good men out here. Not everybody's the same, not
Speaker 2: all women are the same. So I think that it's
Speaker 2: good that we see not necessarily be a couple goals,
Speaker 2: but we need to see healthy black relationships. We need
Speaker 2: to see men being fathers because to stick theistically, men
Speaker 2: are fathers.
Speaker 1: Yes, especial black households.
Speaker 2: Yes, we all have this narrative about debt beat dads,
Speaker 2: but the black.
Speaker 1: Men are in the house, and statistically, the black men
Speaker 1: is the most active father in the household.
Speaker 2: And that's something I didn't even know. I had to
Speaker 2: educate myself on that. So I think that it's just
Speaker 2: important for us to see that. And even though it's
Speaker 2: like social media we like to say is not real life,
Speaker 2: but like you said earlier in the episode, people are
Speaker 2: looking at social media for their news.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: When I was literally updating myself last night on the
Speaker 2: I was on Google, like, okay, electoral college, let me
Speaker 2: see what the numbers are. I'm not looking at seeing in,
Speaker 2: I'm not looking Fox. I'm just looking at the numbers.
Speaker 2: So we use our phones for infacs absolutely, So unfortunately
Speaker 2: and fortunately for us, people watch us for okay, educate me,
Speaker 2: meet me something that I need to know so I
Speaker 2: think that even though you don't like the couple goals,
Speaker 2: I think it's important that people see what you're doing.
Speaker 1: Now. I received that, and first of all, I thank
Speaker 1: y'all for forgiving me this platform to speak on it.
Speaker 1: But I do I do think that it's unfair for
Speaker 1: us to make it seem as if Kadeen and I
Speaker 1: were the first people to live like this, right. Truth
Speaker 1: of the matter is is that we're just the first
Speaker 1: people to pick a phone up. Yeah, and let people say,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like, I am just a
Speaker 1: reflection of my dad. I'm a reflection of my uncles
Speaker 1: and my grandfather. So I can't sit here and make
Speaker 1: it seem like listen follow me. Yeah, No, that's not
Speaker 1: And every day I wake up thinking like, yo, Devada,
Speaker 1: don't fuck this up.
Speaker 3: But I feel like it's amazing though, because you're pouring
Speaker 3: into like the younger generations that didn't get to grow
Speaker 3: up around it the way that you did.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm delibered with that. When I was in college
Speaker 1: nineteen years old, my sophomore professor, Professor Traciaty, access to
Speaker 1: write a mission statement. The mission statement I came up
Speaker 1: with each day I worked to build a legacy, not
Speaker 1: to be defined by my greatness, but by the masses
Speaker 1: I inspire to be greater than myself. I grew up
Speaker 1: idolizing Michael Jackson, and it wasn't because he could dance
Speaker 1: and he could sing. I idolized him because he had
Speaker 1: massive of people who followed him. When he talked about
Speaker 1: healing the world, when he talked about it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: if you're black and white. I watched masses of people
Speaker 1: be like, Yeah, if Michael Jackson can do this, I can.
Speaker 1: And I just felt like, you know what, we have
Speaker 1: a greater responsibility and in fact, the fiduciary responsibility as people,
Speaker 1: to pay it forward. You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: it's it's not enough to just say I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: this for me and my family. No, we should share
Speaker 1: so that masses after us can say, you know what,
Speaker 1: I want to live like that. I mean, that's what
Speaker 1: Jesus lived on all of these religious people. Jesus wasn't
Speaker 1: out here saying looks and I'm the son of the
Speaker 1: son of God. I'm perfect. Jesus was amongst the rapist,
Speaker 1: the sinners, the disciples. He turned water into wine he
Speaker 1: sat down with the worldliest of the worldleiest and just
Speaker 1: showed them a different way. He didn't judge them, He
Speaker 1: didn't say I'm perfect, be like me. He just said, hey,
Speaker 1: let's let's build right. And that's and I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that I'm Jesus because I know how the in and
Speaker 1: that can be.
Speaker 2: They're gonna flip it.
Speaker 3: On the Poor Minds episode he canceled. I knew him
Speaker 3: and his wife wasn't perfect like this, and there you know,
Speaker 3: they crazy, they crazy.
Speaker 2: What's up y'all? As your girl XP and it's Sugarl
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Speaker 2: We love Tore. A small business man.
Speaker 3: In a black business said that, But I mean anybody, smad,
Speaker 3: any business is welcome, obviously. Like I said, I love Sisters,
Speaker 3: Like I've been watching so much one I am tuned in. Yes,
Speaker 3: I love you and Fatima. Then you're on the Teama Yes.
Speaker 3: And then you also have a new movie coming out.
Speaker 1: Well it just came out today, come out today xlix.
Speaker 3: Yes on Netflix. So I definitely want to talk to
Speaker 3: you about Sisters. Like, let's talk about Zach and his
Speaker 3: character development. Okay, let's talk he has changed so much.
Speaker 1: Yes, Zach was a young man dealing with recidivism when
Speaker 1: we first met him, didn't have anything to his name.
Speaker 1: He was making money. He was trying to give Danny
Speaker 1: money so that he can stay there once in a while.
Speaker 1: He wasn't the best boyfriend, and he gave Karen an STD.
Speaker 1: He was, you know, not not pretty, not not advanced
Speaker 1: when it comes to being an adult. He was behind
Speaker 1: the totem poland and we learned a lot about his character.
Speaker 1: But I enjoyed playing is the role of Zach because
Speaker 1: Zach is so many young men. Maybe you're not dealing
Speaker 1: with recidivism or deal with being in and out of prison,
Speaker 1: but I remember my early twenties being lost and not
Speaker 1: knowing who I was or who I was going to be.
Speaker 1: So we get a chance to watch Zach go through
Speaker 1: a come innovage story. He meets a black woman who
Speaker 1: is powerful and strong, who's able to give him empathy
Speaker 1: and have the strength to go, you know, deal with
Speaker 1: him through his trials and tribulations, which I understand for
Speaker 1: a lot of black women. Black women say, man, why
Speaker 1: we got to deal with struggle love all the time?
Speaker 1: You know? But when I watch Sisters, and I watched
Speaker 1: the Team, but the one thing I say about struggle
Speaker 1: love is that struggle love is Black love. You know,
Speaker 1: most of us don't come from parents who've had money.
Speaker 1: Most of us come from a place where we have
Speaker 1: to get it from the ground up. So when I
Speaker 1: look as a team and I look at Sisters, I say,
Speaker 1: this is our story. Everything isn't happy, everything is in
Speaker 1: rainbows and sunshine. It's work.
Speaker 3: I think That's why people really love it though, because
Speaker 3: I think people can see the parts of their selves.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutelyships, absolutely, and Fatima's relationship on the show.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, absolutely, I enjoy planes at So you are.
Speaker 2: In the Tyler Perry universe. Yeah, obviously.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: I gotta ask this because how is y'all filming schedule?
Speaker 2: Because you know they'd be saying he filmed movies in
Speaker 2: thirty minutes.
Speaker 1: I filmed twenty five episodes in seven days, by Tyler.
Speaker 3: But Crystal told us that too when she came on
Speaker 3: the show.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Crystal, like, girl.
Speaker 1: What's up? Chris? Now, I think people need to understand
Speaker 1: the business aspect of it and what Tyler's trying to create. Right,
Speaker 1: So I'll give you an example. You're a producer. You
Speaker 1: get a budget of thirty million dollars. Thirty million dollars, right, people,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of money.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you know how far thirty million dollars goes on
Speaker 1: the traditional TV set? Not that far? Five episodes? Maybe six? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I figured that maybe six. Yeah. What Tyler has figured
Speaker 1: out is a way by So you're talking about anywhere
Speaker 1: between five to six million in episode. Tyler spends about
Speaker 1: seven hundred and fifty thousand in episode. You see what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You see what I'm saying. But here's the thing.
Speaker 1: You know, with TPS, I'm glad you said that all
Speaker 1: of the actors, everybody on there makes more money in
Speaker 1: that two weeks than they ever made. You see that,
Speaker 1: But sometimes the things don't look the same as someone
Speaker 1: who's doing an episode for two weeks. You gotta understand.
Speaker 2: And let me be sitting in the living room for
Speaker 2: thirty minutes, it's the whole episode.
Speaker 1: Who you telling I'd be in the motherfucker And let
Speaker 1: me ask you. You laughing like, I don't know you
Speaker 1: ever get a thing? So let me tell you something, right,
Speaker 1: I got me. Let me I'm gonna talk about this.
Speaker 1: A scene in television is typically one page for one minute. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I get my scene sometimes for team and I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is fifteen fucking pages. Yeah, that's fifteen minutes me
Speaker 1: on the same thing. Yeah, But then you realize, I
Speaker 1: gotta make this entertaining for the viewers. If you do theater,
Speaker 1: sometimes you have a scene in theater that may be
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. If you are a thestpian, you find a
Speaker 1: way to make what you do entertaining. If you're not
Speaker 1: a theestpion and you're a person that just wants to
Speaker 1: be presented in the most beautiful way possible and you
Speaker 1: don't want to do no work, that fifteen minutes is
Speaker 1: going to be fucking hell. And the truth is, sometimes
Speaker 1: it happens to people who act with you. They don't
Speaker 1: know what it is.
Speaker 2: Like.
Speaker 1: The truth is, Sisters is a soap opera.
Speaker 6: It is.
Speaker 1: It is a soap opera in prime time, which is
Speaker 1: what we don't see. Soap operas happen every single day.
Speaker 1: Sisters happens every week, so a lot of people and
Speaker 1: maybe like, oh, this is slow, this is slow. When
Speaker 1: you watch soap operas every day, you're getting something every
Speaker 1: single day, so.
Speaker 2: It never finishes.
Speaker 1: I get it too. And the thing is I get it.
Speaker 1: Talk about it.
Speaker 3: He don't never make us wait too long. It'd be
Speaker 3: like three months in between seasons.
Speaker 1: Talk about it.
Speaker 2: Stap in my foot, like shoot twenty five episodes and
Speaker 2: a wake.
Speaker 1: Betch but.
Speaker 2: Drop in a month. I gotta ask you, do you
Speaker 2: ever get your scripts though?
Speaker 3: And you'll be like, no, you're fucking lying, because Sisters
Speaker 3: is so chaotic, like it's just like kidding me, Like
Speaker 3: when I found out that Karen was pregnant with your
Speaker 3: baby and a preacher, man, I was like, and it
Speaker 3: only happens to like one percent of people.
Speaker 1: I was like, Tyler Perry being so fucking for.
Speaker 2: Real right now.
Speaker 3: I just knew it wasn't gonna be your baby, true.
Speaker 1: I bean, Matt is over there. Matt will say, I'll
Speaker 1: be getting the script sometimes and I'll be like, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying none of the words just on that page.
Speaker 1: Am I lying? I'm not? But and I had a
Speaker 1: conversation with Tyler, uh huh, And I said to Tyler,
Speaker 1: I said, yo, tea man, like like, come on, man,
Speaker 1: what we doing? And this is this is how you
Speaker 1: know somebody really knows.
Speaker 2: And Karen been pregnant for like false seasons, but.
Speaker 1: It hasn't been forced. It been like three he's been
Speaker 1: six seasons. She was pregnant season three, no on season eight, three, four, five, six,
Speaker 1: seven day Crazy season.
Speaker 2: And see I was giving grace sometime.
Speaker 1: I three scenes. Because you gotta understand, each episode is
Speaker 1: only the morning portion of that episode. But we watched
Speaker 1: this week, it's the morning, next week the afternoon. The
Speaker 1: following week is I'm just being honest. That's so when
Speaker 1: you watched three weeks of television, You're like this three
Speaker 1: weeks of a pregnancy. No, that's one day. You've watched
Speaker 1: that pregnancy for three weeks. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And I know she ain't gonna have a baby still
Speaker 3: next season.
Speaker 1: Now, I'm gonna tell you the genius of Tyler because
Speaker 1: I said to them, I was like, yo, man, I
Speaker 1: think that we should I think we should not. I
Speaker 1: went forty five minutes. I was saying we should do this,
Speaker 1: and you know, my generation thinks and we shouldn't. And
Speaker 1: he sat there and he listened right, and he said
Speaker 1: the value done. I said, yeah, I'm done. He said,
Speaker 1: you think I made over three billion dollars up?
Speaker 2: Real bad?
Speaker 1: Sorry it ate me the fuck up bad. I said,
Speaker 1: no you didn't. But he's just so listen to me.
Speaker 1: I know my audience. I write from my audience. So
Speaker 1: then I said, well, what do you mean by your audience?
Speaker 1: He says, most people do content thinking. I can expand
Speaker 1: over all these different genres. I can expand for these people.
Speaker 1: I write for the people who support me. And then
Speaker 1: when I thought about the people who support him, I'm
Speaker 1: thinking the Bible Belt. I'm thinking about black women between
Speaker 1: the ages of twenty five to sixty five. And I
Speaker 1: said to myself, those women grew up watching what soap
Speaker 1: operas general because.
Speaker 2: They loves you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: People have a lot. I'll be complaining about the seasons.
Speaker 2: But I've tuned in. You know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 2: they do that. I don't constantly complain about Tyler Perry,
Speaker 2: but every time he drops a movie it's number one.
Speaker 2: Every time he drops Beauty and Blade, it goes to
Speaker 2: number Oh, Beauty finish. I finished Beauty in Black. It
Speaker 2: was afternoon for you.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying, les, I swear to let's
Speaker 1: some must clap this, you bro the whole half of
Speaker 1: the season, it was afternoon. Now just finished. I'll give
Speaker 1: you a contrast, and then you'll you'll be like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know what, I get it? Fast and Furious has
Speaker 1: how many movies and tennis? They complain every time a
Speaker 1: new fashion of Furious comes out? Right, and every time
Speaker 1: it comes out, what is it in the box office?
Speaker 1: Number one? Number one? So who cares about who complains?
Speaker 1: You can complain because you don't watch it. Or if
Speaker 1: you do watch it, why are you watching every week
Speaker 1: and complaining me? You know what I'm saying. It's like
Speaker 1: people complain about content like Fast and Furious. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of them, they watch it, people complain about it.
Speaker 1: It's number one. Tyler is a businessman. He's a content creator,
Speaker 1: and he understands that this, this film, or this show
Speaker 1: was made for a specific group of people. It ain't
Speaker 1: made for everybody else who's gonna complain? It's made for them?
Speaker 1: And those are the people who are typically forgotten. How
Speaker 1: many films or projects, For example, Precious Precious was a
Speaker 1: movie that would have never ever gotten made if it
Speaker 1: wasn't an Oprah Winfrey and Tyler peer Right, it won
Speaker 1: an Oscar. Monique won in Oscar. I think Gabaret citebe
Speaker 1: won in Oscar. If it wasn't for those people Tyler
Speaker 1: Perry and Oprah Winfrey and Lee Daniels who knew that
Speaker 1: this audience would love this film, it would have never
Speaker 1: gotten made. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I will never be mad at Tyler Perry too, because
Speaker 2: I'm not an actress and I'm not in Hollywood, but
Speaker 2: I will say we've had a lot of actors and
Speaker 2: actresses sitting on the couch and they talk about how
Speaker 2: hard it is to get rolls keeps, he keeps the
Speaker 2: people paid.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you, oh no, I was just gonna say.
Speaker 3: And I feel like, at least for me, I be
Speaker 3: complaining because Tyler Perry don't give us the instant gratification,
Speaker 3: Like people be wanting instant gratification, Like I don want
Speaker 3: to know what the fuck is gonna happen, and he
Speaker 3: do not let you know right away. He gonna he gonna,
Speaker 3: it's gonna go on for seasons.
Speaker 1: And he be edging. He'd be since we back on that.
Speaker 1: I like that, since like edging, and he is a
Speaker 1: pro added.
Speaker 3: But the shows are so good you can't stop watching
Speaker 3: so good, so it's like you're gonna complain, gonna be like,
Speaker 3: come on, like when we gonna know what the climax
Speaker 3: is the then you can't stop watching. I'll tell you
Speaker 3: he's a pro with it.
Speaker 2: That's why he he sayed three billion.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. He won't be considered three billion liquid
Speaker 1: for a couple of years, but I can tell you
Speaker 1: right now that man is worth more than three billion dollars.
Speaker 1: I believe you more than three billion dollars. And another
Speaker 1: thing is I've made more money working with Tyler Perry
Speaker 1: than I ever made as a professional athlete. But I
Speaker 1: made even more money with the information he gave me,
Speaker 1: just like fifty cents when it came time to contracts,
Speaker 1: when it came time to letting people. For example, I'll
Speaker 1: tell y'all this is podcasts I went. I met with
Speaker 1: Tyler in twenty nineteen after we did Sisters. We talked
Speaker 1: and he gave me the story about the ninety ten rule.
Speaker 1: When he went to CBS. CBS had offered him his
Speaker 1: own television show and they were just like, oh, we
Speaker 1: got writers, we got people, and Tyler was like, I
Speaker 1: don't need that, I'll do it, and they were like, oh,
Speaker 1: we really don't do it that way. So we walked away,
Speaker 1: went to TBS, went to TBS and got his own
Speaker 1: TV show where he got ninety percent and the company
Speaker 1: got ten percent because he put his own money up
Speaker 1: House of Pains. And then after House of Pain came
Speaker 1: Meet the Brown. He was super successful with my podcast.
Speaker 1: When I was first for Stitcher, they undershot me. They
Speaker 1: didn't know the value of the black dollar, and they
Speaker 1: didn't know the value of black following right at Stitcher.
Speaker 1: They said to me just like, hey, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: we'll give you a fifty thousand dollar bonus. You gotta
Speaker 1: get fifty thousand dollars downloads in the first six months
Speaker 1: and all this other stuff. And I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: cool on the bonus and They're like, excuse me because
Speaker 1: I knew my value. Yeah, And I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to I want fifty revenue share everything. Hello.
Speaker 1: I only noticed because I had been talking to Tyler
Speaker 1: and they were just like, they were like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: So we don't got to give you fifty thousand. I said, no,
Speaker 1: I want ownership. Dead Ass Podcast is mine. I want
Speaker 1: that name, and I also want I want the ability
Speaker 1: to put it on digital content video and you don't
Speaker 1: own it. You know what? They said, Sure, go ahead
Speaker 1: the vow. You think you're going to get fifty thousand
Speaker 1: downloads first week of Dead Ass Post Podcast. Guess how
Speaker 1: many downloads? Nope? IM think yes, I'll sell two hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy five thousand. So you know what happened with that.
Speaker 1: They had to pay me fifty thousand dollars in the
Speaker 1: first week because we had surpassed to fifty thousand. Hello,
Speaker 1: you had to pay me that every single week now
Speaker 1: every single month because we had the revenue share. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I learned that from Tyler because it's like them
Speaker 1: underestimate you. Let them underestimate the black value, the black dollar,
Speaker 1: black viewership. And that's what they always do to tire.
Speaker 1: They always underestimate black viewership. Right, and you know what
Speaker 1: Viacom does. Viacom comes in here, Tyler will give you
Speaker 1: this and see what you do. Number one, number one,
Speaker 1: number one, number one, every time, Netflix, number one, number one,
Speaker 1: Amazon every number one, number one.
Speaker 2: I mean, right there, i'morne, y'all watch this motherfucking show.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like he's whether people like it or not, they still
Speaker 3: be talking. I'm a person who I just be feeling
Speaker 3: like you know all Public City is always talking about
Speaker 3: it every time he drops something. It's number one trending.
Speaker 2: Got off topic a little bit, but talk about the
Speaker 2: new movie. Yes, yes, yes, Christmas movie Chris talk about
Speaker 2: that's me me.
Speaker 1: Next Christmas comes out today on Netflix, starring Christina Milion, myself,
Speaker 1: and Kobe Saribo. I'm excited about it because and then
Speaker 1: Tyler will admit to this too, but it's outside of
Speaker 1: the Tyler verse, which means I get to do something
Speaker 1: on my own, outside of that universe to show my
Speaker 1: value not only Tyler, but to BT two Netflix, to
Speaker 1: the people and say, hey, Devala is a draw. So
Speaker 1: this was an opportunity for me to showcase what I
Speaker 1: can do. Christina Milion like she's legend. Come dip it low,
Speaker 1: pick it up slow, come.
Speaker 2: On now, like that's the movie that she did with
Speaker 2: Nick Cannon. That was her character's name, Perry.
Speaker 1: Come on.
Speaker 2: I'll be like, oh my gosh, she is just so beautiful, beautiful.
Speaker 1: Here's here's the thing. She's an even more beautiful person
Speaker 1: in person.
Speaker 2: She's good at rom com she is, she's really. She
Speaker 2: has a few Netflix rom coms. I watched all of them.
Speaker 1: She's good. She's good. She's good. So to me, this
Speaker 1: was like a no brainer. I want to expand myself
Speaker 1: as an artist. I want people to see me outside
Speaker 1: of the BT Universal and Talent University. Netflix has three
Speaker 1: hundred million viewers. Hopefully that can expand what I do.
Speaker 1: But it's fun. If you are the spind or not,
Speaker 1: that is the question. I love y'all. Y'all. We love
Speaker 1: you to y'all. That's a good episode.
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Speaker 1: How I think? Did I give my perspective? How you
Speaker 1: can take it or leave it? Figure? If you don't
Speaker 1: want to throw that motherfucker out, all right, well be
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Speaker 3: I've been following you guys for about four or five
Speaker 3: years now, and I always feel in tune with you
Speaker 3: guys weekly and I look forward to Friday's religiously. It's
Speaker 3: always so enlightening that I connect with most topics each week.
Speaker 3: I'm a leo. I just turned thirty in July. I
Speaker 3: have an eight year old daughter, and I just left
Speaker 3: the most stereotypical one and a half year jail relationship.
Speaker 3: Who wasn't her father. I met him through my friend
Speaker 3: who I've known since middle school. We always plan to
Speaker 3: be on love after lockup. Once he was close to
Speaker 3: a date, and now that he.
Speaker 1: You rode into the show, LEXI, what may go ahead, Dre?
Speaker 1: I just not see.
Speaker 2: Oh my fucking godess see what I jumped on you?
Speaker 1: I see you? You said like, wait a minute, Oh
Speaker 1: y'all about the love?
Speaker 3: This next port? What y'all about the love? This next word?
Speaker 2: She said?
Speaker 3: And now that he is home, he ended things with
Speaker 3: me saying I'm not for him. Such a blessing. I
Speaker 3: wasn't embarrassed on TV like that, l L. It felt
Speaker 3: like I was literally stabbed in the heart and I
Speaker 3: seen the future with him. I knew there was something
Speaker 3: off by intuition, and I would ask and he would
Speaker 3: say he was locked in and he's with me. He
Speaker 3: sent me, gives money, seen and talked to him daily
Speaker 3: and weekly until he didn't need me anymore and he
Speaker 3: was close to release. I feel like I dodged a bullet,
Speaker 3: and I also feel stupid as hell.
Speaker 1: But I say this.
Speaker 3: I say this to say that this week's episode y'all
Speaker 3: made me feel like the show must go on and
Speaker 3: I need to focus on me way more lo ill
Speaker 3: and it's nothing wrong with it.
Speaker 1: I love you guys.
Speaker 3: Y'all are like my big sissies for real, and God
Speaker 3: does amazing things through you too, So I guess it
Speaker 3: wasn't really a question.
Speaker 1: It was that's what girl Na was locked up.
Speaker 2: And let me tell y'all because I say.
Speaker 1: This a lot, lad, you loved that nigga alone?
Speaker 2: Since I glad we helped you come to your sensey
Speaker 2: what I mean, but I mean a man he was
Speaker 2: already in jail.
Speaker 3: She happy to leave that nigga alone because God said
Speaker 3: I he loved first.
Speaker 1: He was like, which was a blessing in disguise. He said,
Speaker 1: we locked in, ain't no switching up sight.
Speaker 2: So how do you feel about women dating men in jail?
Speaker 1: She said they were gonna be on love after lock up?
Speaker 2: Like, what are you doing to cry?
Speaker 1: Talk about that?
Speaker 2: SELEXI a nigga?
Speaker 1: Don't leave me? Oh my god? Man, so, oh my god.
Speaker 1: It was a very chaotic question. I mean, she said,
Speaker 1: I was with this dude. As soon as he got out.
Speaker 1: He was just like, yeah, he said, man, okay, So
Speaker 1: oh man, wow. First thing I realized she's thirty. Y'all
Speaker 1: going to hell? Person, I'm gonna say y'all going to hell.
Speaker 1: Both of y'all going to hell, for you for reading
Speaker 1: that question out loud, and for you for laughing and
Speaker 1: making them jokes. And I'm trying to be serious trying
Speaker 1: to help this young lady. It's the first thing I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say. She's thirty, she has an eight year old.
Speaker 1: The fact that she was dating someone in lock up
Speaker 1: and she probably hasn't met tells me that she probably
Speaker 1: has some self esteem issues. If you feel you have
Speaker 1: to just go jump to a dude that's locked up
Speaker 1: that you met through your middle school friend and you
Speaker 1: can't meet someone that's out, means you don't value yourself.
Speaker 2: You can't meet the man.
Speaker 1: You can't meet him at that's free. I didn't say that,
Speaker 1: let's y'all, don't say that. What you starting trump? I
Speaker 1: didn't say that's where, but I meant that. I didn't
Speaker 1: say it, but I meant that. LEXI say what I meant,
Speaker 1: because I'm not trying to get canceled. I said, I
Speaker 1: didn't say that, but I but I said that. All right.
Speaker 1: If a woman is like, you know, I gotta go
Speaker 1: find somebody who's locked up, I don't think her self
Speaker 1: esteem is good. I think that you dodge the bullet.
Speaker 1: I think that you have to focus on yourself and
Speaker 1: also your eight year old child. You don't gotta worry
Speaker 1: about chasing men. If you are catch and you out
Speaker 1: here in parenting and being the best version of yourself,
Speaker 1: the right man will come for you. Hopefully he'll be free. Okay,
Speaker 1: not see you.
Speaker 2: Better?
Speaker 1: You know what, you know what you're right.
Speaker 2: Let me see but let me but let me say
Speaker 2: this to her. Let me say this to hear and
Speaker 2: all women out there and even man too. When you
Speaker 2: really truly love yourself, I'm gonna say something good. You
Speaker 2: never know what's not but for real, because I went
Speaker 2: through a time in my life, like in my early
Speaker 2: thirties where I was just like doing anything, and I say,
Speaker 2: this is so somebody, Yeah, you've never done it.
Speaker 3: Never. She had never, never, she had me.
Speaker 1: She's like, that's beneath me, that is beneath me. If
Speaker 1: he don't try, if he on trial or he got out,
Speaker 1: I'm with that. But in jail, I not doing that.
Speaker 1: So you would data Zach, you would date, you would
Speaker 1: date a Zach a x con No. I know plenty
Speaker 1: of I I know plenty of good x cons.
Speaker 2: Okay, but it depends on like what what murder?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 2: No, if you can murder somebody, you might murder me.
Speaker 1: So how about what if what if I told you
Speaker 1: a stat that you didn't know.
Speaker 2: I don't want to know stats about no murder, I
Speaker 2: true crime.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 1: Over eighty percent of the inmates who are in jail
Speaker 1: are in jail because they they they accepted a plea deal,
Speaker 1: finds that they didn't come.
Speaker 2: But guess what A hundred percent can't get me. That's
Speaker 2: my statistic.
Speaker 1: Iry to help you all out in jail.
Speaker 2: Like dating somebody in jail, it's crazy me now I
Speaker 2: have dated. It's a reformed hoom I used.
Speaker 3: To love me or reformed hood nigga back in the day.
Speaker 2: I've changed.
Speaker 3: I'm wrong, but I feel like they desire a chance
Speaker 3: to I won't get you a chance, but I know
Speaker 3: a lot of X con.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. So different people accept different things,
Speaker 2: But this is what I was saying. When you truly,
Speaker 2: truly love yourself, you will not accept anything beneath that.
Speaker 2: When you treat yourself well, when you love yourself, when
Speaker 2: you just work on yourself, you won't even be in
Speaker 2: a situation where a man can be in jail and
Speaker 2: get out and you felt used and abuse.
Speaker 1: I agree with Yeah, so you have to really, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta really.
Speaker 2: When you really love yourself and you know the value
Speaker 2: and what you bring to the table, you're not gonna
Speaker 2: accept no bullshit. And it takes a while to get there.
Speaker 2: But whether he left you, or you left him, or
Speaker 2: you dodge the bullet, at least you realize that now
Speaker 2: and you can do what you need to do to
Speaker 2: move forward.
Speaker 1: I agree with that. I agree with that. Let me
Speaker 1: preach now, go ahead, let the words.
Speaker 2: I don't got three billion, but I got three dollars.
Speaker 1: Talk about it, talk about it. Lets you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We ain't even do the bob.
Speaker 2: That's all right, we gotta Okay, we ain't gonna do
Speaker 2: the bob.
Speaker 1: Let him know what? What's THEO?
Speaker 2: Another week? Okay? Well, what do you were about? What
Speaker 2: you've been jamming? This week?
Speaker 1: I've been listening to changes by Tupac. I was this
Speaker 1: government and this is this election that had me, you know,
Speaker 1: it's had me stressed. So I've been listening to changes
Speaker 1: about to because I'm old LEXI, I swear to God,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fight you when this camera go up. We
Speaker 1: don't stop, but we the like. I swear to god,
Speaker 1: we're almost the same ass. Y'all are how old are
Speaker 1: you five?
Speaker 2: I'm thirty five.
Speaker 1: I'm thirty three. Oh yeah, we ain't that. They're right
Speaker 1: there too. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I talk tupac changes. Did you ever see that video
Speaker 2: of Santana's working?
Speaker 1: It changes?
Speaker 2: Okay, you seen He.
Speaker 1: Don't know you've seen this first of all, said saying,
Speaker 1: this is my mans a rock with Santana. We did
Speaker 1: some stuff together, but I'm not gonna watch a video
Speaker 1: with something and it went viral. Why would I watch that?
Speaker 2: Though I don't know it went.
Speaker 1: Virals ant I come up on your timeline.
Speaker 2: It ain't gonna not play just because you fwiped up.
Speaker 1: He said that. Yeah, but you said if I watched it,
Speaker 1: I can.
Speaker 2: I can.
Speaker 1: I can look up and I can see Santana talking
Speaker 1: about some Oh that's just funny. I can look up
Speaker 1: and see Santana's working and just swipe that motherfucker. So
Speaker 1: I didn't see him. That's a good. I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to see him t work. That's just my man. I'll
Speaker 1: take your work and I'll just be like.
Speaker 2: Not Santana, let us know when I could find your podcast,
Speaker 2: what days it drives, where they can find you and
Speaker 2: all that good stuff.
Speaker 1: Well, you can find me at Imdavao on all platforms,
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Speaker 1: I feel like we gotta have you back on the show.
Speaker 3: You and your wife.
Speaker 1: We gotta have that would be I think, y'all funny.
Speaker 2: We gotta have her.
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Speaker 1: and she's so used to being like, you know, put together,
Speaker 1: and this would be fun for her.
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Speaker 5: Yea step into me casso layer down boom, Mama, Hana,
Speaker 5: got a little sun sumthing on my sexy.
Speaker 1: My mom, Mama.
Speaker 5: Been checking for you since day one yr my mooning
Speaker 5: you're my son, love.
Speaker 1: No real, do you chicking? And you know that I'm stilling,
Speaker 1: yesty lo.
Speaker 2: So be therebesquare yo, So girl, please don't be lave me.
Speaker 1: Don't be lame.
Speaker 2: Don't be lame, don't be lame. Ro man. Okay, you
Speaker 2: know what the bed Bozlers, the bear bolers, We ain't
Speaker 2: that ship.
Speaker 1: And we'll see y'all next week. My Mama, Ma, Ma, Ma, Ma, Ma, Mama, Ma, Ma, Ma, Ma, Ma, Ma, Ma, Ma, Mama,
Speaker 1: Ma Ma.
Speaker 2: Mom Hey ma Ma.
Speaker 1: Ma Ma, Ma, Ma Ma, Mama, Mama, Ma, my mama.
Speaker 1: What you're going to now, What you're going to now? No,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, yeah, I don't know the words.
Speaker 2: Don't care. We're in my room, y