1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season twenty eight, Episode 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: five of US for April seven, two thousand eight. Team, 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: my name is Jack O'Brien a K. Dwaine the Rock 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: Johnson's Depression. No word play, uh, just we need to 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: we need to come to terms with it, you guys. Um, 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: co host Mr Miles Great morning, ran clouds up my 8 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: window and knock and see at all and he and 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: if I could, it'll all be Gray Well jump icture 10 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: on Miles. Well it Ray Miles me that I'm with 11 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 1: that gang. I'm with that gang, dear Slim. Okay, now, 12 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: thank you so much for that a k A from 13 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: Dan Peters on Instagram moments ago, not for like twenty minutes. 14 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna one day that kisses the few people 15 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: off on Twitter and just through too long, get through. 16 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: And we are thrilled to be joined in our third 17 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: seat by the brilliant writer and journalist and hilarious comedy 18 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: writer Mr Robert Evans a Robert Evans, Robert A not 19 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: the Robert Evans that everyone actually knows. Yeah, that was 20 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: a poor Google basis. I remember the first time as 21 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: someone and mentioned you, I thought I was like the producer. 22 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: I think it's which is unfortunately, you know, because you 23 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: are very different, You're very unique and you should have 24 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: your own. Yeah. I produced Godfather too, which is a 25 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: very difference. Some say superior film. Yeah, and then yeah, 26 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: they don't know the documentaries coming on with you. The 27 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: kids stays in the podcast? Yes, yes, yes, yes, Robert 28 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: you reference uh solid for no one. Yeah, I look 29 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: as I look around, lost eyes, No, no, no, I 30 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: got it. Documentary now just a spoof of the kids 31 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: stays in the picture. That was pretty funny. Thank you. 32 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, that that's a very good documentary. Robert. You 33 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: have a podcast coming out, I sure do, on this 34 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: very network called Behind the Bastards Up. But before we 35 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: were working on this podcast together, you worked with me 36 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: at Cracked. Uh. You spearheaded new types of media. At Cracked, 37 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: you created the personal experience section. Uh. You went on 38 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: actual overseas journalism trips, as they're called in the industry 39 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: by real journalists. Probably you went to Iraq. What was 40 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 1: that like? Uh? It was nice, really good food, good 41 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: good weather, good food. You know, the weather was kind 42 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: of garbage. I'm gonna I'm gonna be honest, hung out 43 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: with some Curds shot giant anti aircraft guns on the 44 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: back of jeeps. It was an anti anti tank, anti 45 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: anti building gun too, Like it was like a giant 46 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: recoilist rifle. But like you see him shoot, like I've 47 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: watched a bunch of people shoot a bunch of rockets 48 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: at this point, I don't think I've ever seen someone 49 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: fire a rocket launcher and not have a little bit 50 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: of a smile on their face, right, Like you can 51 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: tell they're always really digging it, enjoying themselves. Kurds are 52 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: sort of the Appealachian folk of the Iraq conflict, right, 53 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: Like they're kind of like scrappy and can rig together. 54 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: A yeah, that would be like that, That would be 55 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: one comparison to make. They live up in the mountains. 56 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: Everybody's constantly fucking with them, um, both in like Iraq 57 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: and in Turkey and in Iran like like basically for 58 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: the last like thousandish years, have been fighting everybody who 59 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: lives around them and like hiding in the mountains a bunch. 60 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: But they're nice, they're great at cooking, they're cool guys, 61 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: so half like Appelachian people. Yeah, I won't say which 62 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: half it is. I love my Appalachians cool man behind 63 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: the bastards. We'll talk about it at the end of 64 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: the show. But just real quick up top, we're really 65 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: excited about having it on. What what's the basic premise 66 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: of the show Everything you don't know about the worst 67 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: people in all of history. So, like we're talking about 68 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: Saddam Hussein, but we're talking about his career as a 69 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: romance novelist. And I read his bizarre novels and review 70 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: them for the crap, very self si aerious romance novelist, 71 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: Like he thought this was going to be what he 72 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: was remembered for. This, this was his He considered himself 73 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: a writer before he was president of a rat Like 74 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: that was his main goal, was to be known as 75 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:17,559 Speaker 1: a serious author. Yeah, and uh we recorded episode zero, 76 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: which is out now that people can go listen to 77 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: about Hitler's long held struggles with farting. Yes, and that's 78 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: not a joke, no, no, Well, and also the fact 79 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: that like you see all these guys on like the 80 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: far right, the alt right now who are like look 81 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: ridiculous in there, the internet nerds who were like Fedora's 82 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: like out in the world, like it's nineteen forty and 83 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,559 Speaker 1: they have like leather trench coats that like Hitler dressed 84 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: the same way, right, Like he always had a fedora. 85 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: He always had a big leather coat, leather shorts. Everybody 86 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: thought he looked like a weirdo other short leather shorts. All. 87 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: He loved his leather shorts. That's a decision, that's a choice. 88 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: And he carried a whip everywhere zam zaddy. Yeah, walking 89 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: around his leather outfit and a whip. Okay, I feel 90 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: like you could rock a leather outfit in a Yeah. 91 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: I could definitely rock the leather shorts for sure. I 92 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: mean I have leather shorts. I have leather shorts. You 93 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: have leather shorts. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're real short. Oh 94 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, I'm hanging out the back of them a 95 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: little bit. But you know, I gotta hey, look, you know, 96 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: you gotta be proud. You gotta work with what you've got. 97 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: That's a direct Hitler quote. Yeah exactly. I'm guessing you 98 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: haven't warned those in front of your mom or else. 99 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: She tells you she made it for me, and then 100 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: she was like fine. This year, she's like, you're your 101 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: decision to look foolish like this with your legs, but 102 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: I guess I would together. And also you have a 103 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: early episode of Behind the Bastards about Hitler the fanboy. Yeah, 104 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: he was a big fan of like this weirdo wild 105 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: West novelist called Karl May and like based a lot 106 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: of his strategy in World War Two off of these 107 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: wild West books written by a con man. I was 108 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: also I was comparing Hitler to Kanye and Donald Trump. 109 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: We won't have a whole section about their loving that's 110 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: been happening, but my main point was that Hitler was 111 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: a narcissist, right for sure? I mean, yeah, who could be? 112 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody could say. And I think part 113 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: of the Hitler's story, and like the story with a 114 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: lot of these dictators, is that there's nothing more dangerous 115 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: than a frustrated artist. Like it's it's a good thing 116 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: that Kanye has seen success as a musician, because otherwise 117 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: he would be like leading a revolution or something. Um, 118 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: it was just like a better dressed diamond and silk. 119 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: Right as my voice cracks, I think I assume everybody 120 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: knows about his narcissism, but there there's some great pictures 121 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: of him, like behind the scenes, like posing in front 122 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: of like mirrors and stuff, like doing different facial expressions 123 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: from his speeches. And he was just he was super 124 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: into himself and his image and stuff. And the reason 125 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: he didn't get married until like right before he died 126 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: is he thought it was super important that the women 127 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: of Germany see him as available, because he thought that 128 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: his sex appeal to the women of Germany was a 129 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: critical part of his popular just he could he couldn't 130 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: risk alienating women by getting Married's like this is a 131 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: mustache ride. They can't exactly. They've got to know that 132 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: that that Hitler's open for me? Are open? All right, Robert? 133 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: What is something from your search history that is revealing 134 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: about who you are. I've been looking up a lot 135 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: of Regnar Benson books lately, so I've been reading Man 136 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: Trapping and Man Trapping two, and I've just been trying 137 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: to find out as much as i can about this guy. 138 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: He's this nut who writes books about how to trap people, 139 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: um and like how to He's got a whole book 140 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: that just like lists how all of the different US 141 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: military armored vehicles drive and how to like disable their 142 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: drive sections. With like homemade equipment and stuff. It's like, 143 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: this is why I love having on Robert. Everybody's like 144 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: I googled how to get rid of warts or something. Okay, 145 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: this guy he's creating like the new Manual to Fight 146 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: the Government. Oh, he wrote it like a decade or so. 147 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: He still writes stuff, but like he keeps. Yeah, he's 148 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: probably he says he lives in America. Ragnar Benson's a pseudonym. 149 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: No one knows his real name. This is what I've 150 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: been looking up online. It's trying to find out about this, 151 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: right because from what I can understand, like you'd expect, 152 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: maybe it's all lies. But like a lot of his 153 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: books wind up in like military libraries because he's like 154 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: he says, his book Man Trapping was based on interviews 155 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: he conducted in like Southeast Asia with like Vietnamese insurgents 156 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: and stuff. So it's not like non he's getting like 157 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: the holistic view of man trapping. You want to trap 158 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: a man? Man Trapping is a great book. Yeah. He 159 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: has two books on how to make homemade C four Jesus, 160 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: what do you do capture? In the first one, he 161 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: didn't capture Man Trapping in the first one, core poaching's 162 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: not not not the bullshit sissy poaching you'll get in 163 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: the other poaching books. Um Regunar Benchin is going to 164 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: teach you the serious ass poaching. Man trapping that sounds 165 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 1: like aggressive pickup artist book man trapping, and man trapping 166 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: to but I love the complete lack of metaphor here. 167 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: Man trapping is about how to physically trapped. Many you 168 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 1: see that on the bookshelves, You're like, huh, I wonder 169 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: that must be like a book about argument techniques. Nope, no, no, 170 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: this is about how to dig a hole and cover 171 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: it up with leaves style man trapping. M are these 172 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: books just available on the internet. You can down find 173 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: places to download them through torrent sites. Sometimes you can 174 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: also buy them all, like, it's not illegal to buy 175 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: these things, although I'm a hundred percent certain, Like if 176 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: I wasn't on a watch list before Anson has gotten 177 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: me on them, I'm sure just googling and it's like, yeah, yeah, no, 178 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: googling your name actually will get right here. Yeah. By 179 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: the way, we're talking about Ragnar Benson. How mysterious it 180 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: is that that's not his real name. Robert Evans, isn't 181 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: your real name, which I learned like five years after 182 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 1: hiring you at correct, that is accurate. Yeah, and we 183 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: just won't go into it anymore than that. Yeah, Robert, 184 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: my name is Miles Gray. Yeah, so I'm boring. No, 185 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: I know we had a lot of background checks, don't know, 186 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, well, thank you. I guess, Robert, what 187 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: is something that is over right? It? Oh? Yeah? I 188 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: think fucking bombing is overrated. Bombing Yeah, bombing no, no, no, 189 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: like like what the military does, Like we've done it 190 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: every time we've had a conflict. It's never won us 191 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: a war. Like we bombed Vietnam more than we bombed 192 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: all of Europe and World War Two didn't work. Like, 193 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: bombing didn't stop North Korea. Bombing didn't work in fucking Iraq, 194 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: it hasn't worked in Afghanic, Like it never works. But 195 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: we're always like, well we've got a problem, we better 196 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: drop bombs on people, Like yeah, but it's it's the 197 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 1: humane way to fight a war, right, like to fight 198 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: a war. But I do feel like because of the 199 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,479 Speaker 1: outcry against chemical weapons that we've heard and completely justified, 200 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: there's been this complete skipping over of the fact that 201 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: you know, we bomb someone like people die horrible. Yeah, 202 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I've got friends who are in Mosle 203 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: right now who are going with volunteer teams just like 204 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: digging up the houses that we bombed, like over the 205 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: fighting with isis they're just all filled with dead people. Um, 206 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: because it's just it's just that's what bombs do. And 207 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: it's like if everybody's like chemical weapons are terrible, but 208 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 1: like if you look at how most people have died 209 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: in the Syrian conflict, it's perfectly conventional legal explosives like 210 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: and yet you know, and I also think movies have 211 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: misled us in terms of what explosions do, because in movies, 212 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: you can actually like surf on an explosion, Like an 213 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: explosion will like push you across the room like a 214 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 1: wrong gust of wind. Like that shock wave doesn't just 215 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: like push you over like a gust of wind. It 216 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: actually will like it's called full body burst all your organs. 217 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: It just like will shred your skin. It doesn't just 218 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: make you. Like there's that Mission Impossible three trailer where 219 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: he like a shock wave from an explosion hits him 220 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: and he like surfs it over like a gap in 221 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: a bridge or something, and then like keeps running because 222 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: he's Tom Cruise, and like he just would have like 223 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: started eating from all his pores and turned into a 224 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: pile of human pudding. Yeah, yeah, it's not that. Yeah. 225 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: An explosion isn't to be used like an air ramp 226 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: in MTV Beach Blast exactly. It will destroy your Yeah. 227 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 1: I think that that's there's part of us because we 228 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: almost never see somebody like die from an explosion, and movies, 229 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: explosions are just a way to like, uh, you know, 230 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 1: make a wall come down for the most part, Uh 231 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: that we when we hear that, like we're dropping bombs 232 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: on places we don't we don't realize like yeah, no, 233 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: people's skin is turning black and you know they're blood 234 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: is boiling in their skull and just horrible ship is happening. 235 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 1: I think the most accurate depiction of how most Americans 236 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: view like like bombing is the scene isn't bombings that 237 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: scene in Team America where one of the lady with 238 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: the chain gun walks into that bar filled with bad 239 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: guys and also women and children and just fires randomly 240 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: and only hits the bad guys right right right, Like yeah, 241 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: it's but you actually, like I've watched the US bomba 242 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: city and it's just like, oh, we're just dropping blosives 243 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: on the town. Like they're not just hitting bad guys. 244 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: It's just like, oh, you're just just dropping them. Every 245 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 1: you're in a town that that was happening on. Yeah, 246 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: I was watching. I was in Mosle. I was watching, 247 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: and I was watching US planes drop air strikes like 248 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: like quarter of a mile away, like standing on top 249 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: of a building, watching other parts of the town explode, 250 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: and then walking through them later that day, and it's 251 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: just like, yeah, it's just random almost like it's it's 252 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure that they had a target they were going for, 253 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: but like it doesn't look targeted when you're actually there. 254 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: I think people still cling to that idea of the 255 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: smart bombs, including our president who was like, believe me, 256 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: these bombs are coming and they're they're so smart. Uh, 257 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 1: they're so smart that they scored. Yeah, they're they're smart 258 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 1: in the same way that my GPS is when it 259 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: like refuses to route me off the four oh five 260 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: even though it's a parking lot in the middle of 261 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: the day, California, Dude, four oh five. But we thought 262 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: back during the first swar in Iraq that you could 263 00:13:55,200 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: I think a you know, defense depart beneficial was like, oh, 264 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 1: we could deliver this missile through a window. Like that's 265 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: the really evocative thing he said, Like we can like 266 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: choose a window in a building to deliver this missile through. 267 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: And I think that just stuck with people. They were like, yeah, 268 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: we've got these smart weapons. Now nobody has to die 269 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: that doesn't have to And it's like, no, that's not 270 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: how it works actually anymore. No, and none of this 271 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: stuff works as well as the movie show, like night 272 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: vision goggles, Like everyone thinks that there are like heat 273 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: sensing everyone thinks that it's like this allows for super 274 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: precision work. I have a friend who got shot in 275 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: the leg by Americans, who's an American soldier who got 276 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: shot in the leg by his own guys because they 277 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: panicked and they were using a heat sensing scope and 278 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: they were like, there's guys in that building fire really yeah, 279 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: And they just didn't like there was a funk up 280 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: on the radio over like where people were supposed to 281 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: be when our body heat looks like their body heat, yeah, weird, 282 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: like different body heat. Star Blue, what's something you think 283 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: is underrated? So my underrated thing I think is and 284 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: this is this is exclusively for men um but it's 285 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: getting getting punched in in the face. I feel like 286 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: every time I watch someone like Ben Shapiro on TV, 287 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's a man who's never been punched in 288 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: the face, and yeah, you learned a lot about yourself. Yeah, 289 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: not permanent damage, just like someone else. And I feel 290 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: the same thing about the Trump boys. That's never happened 291 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: to them. Nobody's ever like even if they've been I'm 292 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: sure those guys have been m m a classes, but 293 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: nobody's like they're probably getting pay and that means like 294 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: assaulting a really drunk guy from behind a party. Yeah. No, 295 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of overconfident guys out 296 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: there who have really just one hit in the face, 297 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: it is it widened their world. And we'll also make 298 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: you very aware that you know, people can put their 299 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: hands on you, what that's like, and you might also 300 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: have a little more empathy to know what that is 301 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: like to be assaulted, to be manhandled, to be yeah, 302 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: it's uh face sudden pain and not really be able 303 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: to do anything about it, to be just a little 304 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: disoriented and helpless for then it. It's good God. I 305 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: love that video of Ben Shapiro sitting next to the 306 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: trans journalist who just like stop it, little boy, and 307 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: it makes him so scared. Yeah, and he has been 308 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: whining about it for years ever since. What videos is 309 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: he's like, you're not a woman, You're a man. Look 310 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: at you, like to a trans woman. And the trans 311 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: woman is a journalist who also has like a military 312 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: background and could like literally fuck Ben Shapiro him right up. 313 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: And Ben Shapiro's just like talks a big game, and 314 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: it's just like, yeah, you're you're not shipped, like I 315 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: don't like physiologically, and then like the trans woman just 316 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: like leans into him and is like just stop it 317 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: right now. You don't want to go down this path. Essentially, 318 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: It's just it is something. Yeah. I read a column 319 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: of his and I think it the calm came from 320 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: like two that's an eight or nine where he's talking 321 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: about like, I don't see why we care so much 322 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: about civilian casualties in Afghanistan. I don't care how many 323 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: civilians die there. If it prevents one American from dying, 324 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: it's worth it. And I was like, yeah, Ben, your 325 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 1: pars should be punched in the face. Yeah, like you should. 326 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: You don't have you don't understand the value of life. 327 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so someone should hit you in the face 328 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 1: just a little bit. Yeah, underrated. Think the most pain 329 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 1: he's been in is like biting into a hot pocket 330 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: too early after bringing it out of the microwave. And 331 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: that's the pain he suffers every morning. It burned the 332 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: tub of my mouth. I'm going to complain about. I'm 333 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: going to complain about the fucking s real law and ship. 334 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: What is something you think is a myth? What's something 335 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: people think is true that you know to be false. 336 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that raw meats dangerous? Oh ye, well just yeah, 337 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: eat raw meat, don't wash your hands after using it. 338 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: It will make you stronger. Yeah, yeah, is a lie. 339 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: Every night, this is my beauty secret, and I'm about 340 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: to unveil it. Every night I like to go to bed, 341 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: I put a nice cold raw chicken cutlet over my 342 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: eyes and I go to sleep. And that's how I 343 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: say youthful and no bags. I'm seeing nos just a 344 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: lot of weird sort of pussy things. But I call 345 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: those beauty marks. Yeah, I feel like that's unrelated to 346 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: the ra but yeah, I mean like in Japan, like 347 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of raw meat being eaten, 348 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: but it's like then slice, it's like the kind of 349 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: beef that you like. That I'm not saying and be like, yeah, 350 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 1: I want it medium rare medium. Uh yeah, I don't. 351 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if I can co sign this myth necessarily. 352 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: But okay, woll you've never you don't need a carpaccio. 353 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: You would not have carpaccio. And so I eat my 354 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: steak medium rare. I'm okay with that. But your select 355 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: circumstances I'm saying freaking out over raw meat is because 356 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: there are people who like, I know, people who know 357 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: you touched the chicken. You deal with it, yeah, or 358 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: people who like they say like, oh I love steak 359 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,719 Speaker 1: and they get it so well done, and what are 360 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: you doing? Or if they see any things they're like, oh, 361 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: there's blood in here. It's like that's not blood. Do 362 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: you think you weren't eating an animal exactly? I wanted 363 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: to be gray and color right. All right, we're gonna 364 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: get into the stories of the day. We're trying to 365 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: take a sample of the global or national shared consciousness, 366 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: what people are thinking and talking about right now at 367 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: the moment we recorded. Uh. And in the past couple 368 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: of days, the Sacramento Police Department, I believe has captured 369 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: the Golden State Killer. Uh. Who is that? So this 370 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: was a cold case, uh, but it was one that 371 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: we had actually written about on Cracked a couple of 372 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: years many years back, because it was just like really 373 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: some of the creepiest crimes ever. First, the person started 374 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: out as known as like the East Area ransacker or 375 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: the something ransacker. He would go into people's homes and 376 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,479 Speaker 1: like steal photographs of them, and like just when he 377 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: was caught, he like would start crying in this like 378 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: really high pitched voice and then and then run off. Yeah, 379 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: and then basically run off, but like just like really weird, 380 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: like almost like uh an alien behavior. But then he 381 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: would like hall people and be like I'm going to 382 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,479 Speaker 1: kill you whose houses he had like broken into, and 383 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: like this really creepy. Boys. Then somebody started like raping 384 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: all these people and they started like thinking it was 385 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: the same person because of like a couple piece of 386 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: evidence connecting them. And then the person started murdering people. 387 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: And the way he would do it is he would 388 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 1: like watch them observe them for like weeks, get their 389 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: scheduled down, hide in their house until they were asleep, 390 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: and then come out with a flashlight and rape the 391 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 1: women and occasionally kill both the women and the men 392 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: and just really really creepy ship like would just gain 393 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: access to people's homes. And this is like in the 394 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: seventies and eighties. This was late seventies, early eighties. Yeah, 395 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: and then it just stopped and nobody really figured anything out. 396 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: And then, uh, Patton Oswalt's wife, the crime writer Michelle McNamara, 397 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: who passed away in I believe two thousand and sixteen, 398 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: you know, tragically and unexpectedly. She died in her sleep 399 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: of I think an undiagnosed heart thing, and you know, 400 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: she had a bunch of prescription medication in her blood 401 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: that might have contributed, but overall, you know, it was 402 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: just a weird freak thing. But she basically became obsessed 403 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: with this story and she was a really great writer 404 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: and started writing about it and got a book deal 405 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, started writing this book called I'll 406 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: Be Gone in the Darkness about this case. And prior 407 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 1: to her writing about it, people hadn't really publicized it. 408 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: There was like a single Unsolved Mysteries episode about it, 409 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: but like they hadn't even like connected all the different 410 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: details of it. And she was the first person to 411 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: name him the Golden State Killer. Like prior to that, 412 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: they had like some weird acronym like ear or something 413 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: like the East Area ransack. Yeah. Yeah, it was like 414 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: nobody paid attention to it until she started getting people 415 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: interested in it, so her book. She died before finishing 416 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: the book. Patton Oswald got a couple of her best 417 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: friends who are also crime journalists, to finish the book 418 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: for her, and it went directly to number one on 419 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: the New York Times best seller lists, just like in 420 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: the past month, and like they were on a book 421 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: tour for it, and that's when Sacramento Police solved the case. 422 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 1: So great marketing. Sacramento Police are saying she had nothing 423 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: to do with it, but they're saying this at a 424 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: press conference where they're calling him the Golden State Killer, 425 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: which was like her turn and like, wait, so is 426 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: it conceivable that her book actually did but no things 427 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: together or this was like an investigation that was really 428 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: happening for a while. I think it's conceivable and probably 429 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: the actual truth that they were not pursuing the case 430 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: in a meaningful way. That's what she added, like, yeah, 431 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,239 Speaker 1: famous again, So I think that's exactly right. There are 432 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: fifteen thousand murders in the United States every year, and 433 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: one third of them go solved. So that's just like 434 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: a huge number of unsolved murders that are piling up. 435 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: And you know, they just hadn't looked into this enough, basically, 436 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: and once somebody started looking into it and it became 437 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: a New York Times bestseller or they knew a book 438 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: at least was coming out about it, that becomes a 439 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: top priority because you don't want to get fucking embarrassed 440 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: the like, uh, I know who it is, and like, okay, 441 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: well I'm gonna get a little conspiracy theory ish here 442 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: we go, because this guy, the Gold State killer that 443 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: they've arrested, was a former cop, and so you have 444 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: to think if they didn't know exactly who it was, 445 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: they were probably some signs that this guy might have 446 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: been a cop, right, and so maybe they figured, well, 447 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: he's old, it'll be bad pr if we pursue this thread. 448 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: So maybe before the book came out, maybe they weren't 449 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: trying all that hard because they were just like, you know, 450 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: we always had a suspicion that this guy was weird. 451 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: And the reason he left the police force was because 452 00:23:55,119 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 1: he got caught shoplifting dog repellent and hammers, which one 453 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: of the key ways the guy killed people with hammers. 454 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: And the thing they could never figure out is how 455 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: he would get past dogs, and the way he would 456 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: actually do it is he would just like lay in 457 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: people's yards and like get friendly with the dogs and like, 458 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: but sometimes he would have to like spray the dog 459 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: repellent to like keep the dogs speaking out about him. 460 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 1: So he got caught shoplifting and the police were like, Okay, 461 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 1: well we'll just like do a trial, like a quick thing. 462 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,239 Speaker 1: This won't be like that big a deal for you. 463 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: And he was like, rather than that, I'm just gonna quit, 464 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: which was like really weird. They were like, wow, you 465 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,479 Speaker 1: just quit? If he right, just like super you know, 466 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: suspicious behavior that they just didn't look into. This also 467 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: happened with a crime podcast Up and Vanished, where they 468 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: started looking into this cold case. I listened to I 469 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: think the first like eight episodes of that and was 470 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: like certain I knew who had done it. And that 471 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: turned out to not be who had done it at all, 472 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: but they did solve it, like as this podcast was 473 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: becoming popular, and I think it's a exactly what Robert said. 474 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: It's that once this becomes a big story, it just 475 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: moves that to the top of your pile of ship 476 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: to worry about. Um. Yeah, it was funny because people 477 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 1: were like, how did you not know about this? Like, 478 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: you lived in California. I'm like the early eighties, I 479 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: was in the process of being borned. Okay, so I 480 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: didn't know. And also like, I'm not like a huge 481 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: true crime person, but it seemed like it was really 482 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 1: big recently with a lot of people who are my 483 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: favorite m c Yeah. Yeah, I went back to the 484 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: my favorite murder archives to like find the Golden State 485 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: Killer episode that like I knew they had done an 486 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: episode about it and assumed it was like a year ago. 487 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: It was like three weeks ago they had done it. 488 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: And then they caught the guy. But yeah, so the 489 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: way they caught him is actually really interesting. They caught 490 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: him because people in his family had sent away their 491 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: d n A to those like DNA database basically stuff. Yeah, 492 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: it wasn't twenty three and me it was a different 493 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: one and not not one of the well known ones. 494 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 1: I've never plug them because they responsion anyway. Yeah they 495 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: but they could, but but it wasn't one of those 496 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: good ones. It was some bad one. But anyway, so 497 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: they were able to basically look at this cluster of 498 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: people and be like, okay, the because they had his 499 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: d n A from all the rapes he had committed, 500 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: they were like, okay, the Golden State killer is in 501 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: this family. And then just by a like process of elimination, 502 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: were able to be like, Okay, this dude didn't live 503 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: in Sacramento at that time. This person you know, students 504 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: do repelling. And then so after like doing all the 505 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: process of elimination, they thought it was this guy. They 506 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: went and like staked out his house, basically did what 507 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: he did to those families, uh, to his victims. They 508 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: like staked out his house and then like when he 509 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: put down a lollipop or like a cigarette or something 510 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: like snuck up got it and took his d n 511 00:26:53,760 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 1: A and it was match, yeah, exactly, take him away toys. 512 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: I would like to see them just be honest and 513 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: be like, yeah, it made us want to solve the 514 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: case more her book, Like she definitely called out a 515 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 1: bunch of suspects that didn't end up being the people 516 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: who did it. But that's like a valuable part of 517 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: catching the guy, chasing leads that don't go anywhere like that, 518 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,959 Speaker 1: that that helps, And like I think Patton Oswald's right. 519 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: Cops are never gonna give a journalist credit for anything, 520 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: especially when they're trying to sort of distract from the 521 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: fact that, yeah, we caught this bad guy who was 522 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: also worked up. Yeah, exactly. I haven't read the book. 523 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: I've read passages of it, and she's a fucking great writer. 524 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: She wrote an article about it and I forget, but 525 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: it's it's beautifully rich. She is an amazing right, she's 526 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: very gifted, so worth checking out. All Right, we're gonna 527 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: take a quick break. We will be right back. And 528 00:27:55,119 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: we're back, and it is time to talk about Bill Cosby. 529 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: Love that guy. What's he been up to? So, yeah, 530 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: the Cosby verdict came in. He is guilty as guilty 531 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: as this has really hurt my pet theory that he 532 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: was the Golden State. Um he, I don't know that 533 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: this isn't surprising to I think anyone in this room 534 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: that he was guilty. We when thirty something people come 535 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: forward with basically the same allegation. But I do think 536 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: there's like a weird generational thing and sort of a 537 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: changing of the guard story here, um, because he got 538 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: away with doing this, and you know, with their being 539 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: accusations that he was doing this for years. Uh. I 540 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: think when in the nineties going into the early aughts, 541 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: when the world was still run by a generation of 542 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: people who knew him as America's dead and the Jello guy, 543 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: and maybe most importantly for white Americans during the eighties, 544 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: the successful black guy who proved that systemic racism isn't 545 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: a thing and that people just need to like pull 546 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: themselves up by their bootstraps. You shouldn't curse in your 547 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: stand up right. As long as you're just clean and nice, 548 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: everything's going to be all right, right, And you know 549 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: this was actually Hannibal Barris kind of brought these allegations 550 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: back to the mainstream mindset in a stand up act 551 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: where he was like talking about the hypocrisy of Bill Cosby, 552 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: you know, yelling at everybody to like pull up their 553 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: pants and be you know, respectable and not you swear words, 554 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: when like he's been accused of rape by thirty people. Uh, 555 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: and that started along with a Gawker article, started people 556 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: talking about this again. But yeah, I just feel like 557 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: there was this sort of myth that American culture really 558 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: wanted to believe in the eighties that like racism was over, 559 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: that the Cosby Show helped them believe in, and Bill 560 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: Cosby helped them believe in and so you know, they 561 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: just didn't wanna let go of that, and like, well 562 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: into the aughts, there were like these things called c 563 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: ratings where they showed you how the public felt about celebrities, 564 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: and I think like Jordan's was still like years after 565 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: he had retired, still rated in like the thirties. Cosby 566 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: was raided in the twenties, and like nobody else was 567 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: over fifteen in terms of like how trusted they were 568 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: as a public persona. So it's like they're the two 569 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: most trusted, most beloved figures, like still years after their 570 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: career had been like super relevant. But I feel like 571 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: we've moved on from that, both in a racial standpoint 572 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: and also from like a you know, I think the 573 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: me Too movement has actually made some progress. Yeah, well, 574 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: and clearly, like you say, generationally, like I think Hannibal 575 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: bursts like worth of that age too, that we can 576 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: look at ship like without the like I guess the 577 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: most tinted lenses of nostalgia and kind of be like, yo, 578 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: this is also some dark ship that happened. We don't 579 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: have to just dance around it or whatever. Yeah, it's weird, 580 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: how Like the generational divide before he got convicted was 581 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: between like whether or not people would believe the allegations, 582 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: because to me, Cosby was like I had vague memories 583 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: of him selling pudding pops and wearing a sweater and 584 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: like Christmas commercials, So I was not like when I 585 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: first heard that, like, oh, people have accused him of rape, 586 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: Like I didn't have any reason not to believe it. 587 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: But my parents like love to show when it was 588 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: on and my I got had had this big argument 589 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: with my mom over like like they were just trying 590 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: to get something out of him. I'm like, there's like 591 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: sixty of them. What are they trying to do? Get 592 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: all the wealth and riches that America? Like? Right? And 593 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: that shows you the the sort of perception of him 594 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: for people was like, Oh, this man could not do wrong. 595 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: He's the doctor Huxtable, Doctor Huxtable. Yeah, I think there's 596 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: a similar generational thing with how seriously we take sexual 597 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: assault allegations. Yea, And I think the Me Too movement 598 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: changed a lot of the way that you know, we 599 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: talked talk about these things in public and the ways 600 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: we talk about sexual assault and other sort of sexual 601 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: misconduct in public. But the fact that you know, we're 602 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: finally bringing this guy to justice is I think a 603 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: good sign at least a good first And I guess 604 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: at least that defense of like they're just trying to 605 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: get something out of them is no longer that's seen 606 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: as like a really improper thing to say when someone 607 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: is accusing somebody of this kind of thing. Yeah. I 608 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: think one of the most helpful narratives is just that 609 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: we started hearing from victims who are like, look, this 610 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: is the most painful thing for me to talk about, 611 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about this, and just doing 612 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: it to help protect other people basically, um so, yeah, 613 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: I think what he's good looking at up to thirty 614 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: years years, I mean, this has there been a sentencing 615 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: day yet or that's hasn't been set yet. I think 616 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: I don't think they have said it yet Uh, he's 617 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: looking at six thirty years up to thirty years. The judge, 618 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: hope Lee is not to permiss it, like he let 619 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: Cosby call the district attorney and asshole in yesterday. So hopefully, uh, 620 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: he gets a little stricter and I could show you 621 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: some softness on the judges part of that generation, things 622 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: like but that's old Bill, you know, like, yo, this dude, 623 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,239 Speaker 1: he's a fucking criminal. Justice has to be served. Yeah, uh, 624 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: all right, And we also wanted to talk about the 625 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: uh some changes, some big changes happening on the Korean peninsula. Yeah, 626 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: well there are for the first time very long time, 627 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: Kim Johnson crossed into South Korean territory for a peace 628 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: summit and they were announcing holding hands, like hey, we're 629 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: gonna work together to quote achieve complete de nuclearization of 630 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: the Korean peninsula. And Robbert, you're pointing out that there 631 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: have been peace talks before, but this is kind of 632 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: significant because for the first time that he's crossing over 633 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: to the South because for the longest time, as people know, 634 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: the Korean peniszula has been divided along thirty eight parallel. 635 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: So that is a big move. It's like peace propaganda 636 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: because like everything was so thought out and everything is 637 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: so symbolic, and it's very interesting to like sort of 638 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: read about the details or just sort of how meticulously 639 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 1: planned this is. It was like this is the most 640 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: Korean thing in the world, like they are these descriptions 641 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: of because of the important of the talks, everything at 642 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: the summit was like loaded with all this minute symbolism. Uh. 643 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 1: The negotiation table is two thousand uh and eighteen millimeters, 644 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: commemorating the year of the meeting. The legs of the 645 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: table resembled two bridges merging, with the South Korean government 646 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: said was to help bridge the psychological distance. The chairs 647 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 1: were made of walnut because it isn't prone to bending 648 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: or warping over time, which that one just sounds like 649 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: maybe they got a good deal on some walnut chairs 650 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: and tried to propaganda. Yeah, but yeah. And the meal, 651 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: like South Korean President Moon Jan is uh, he got 652 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: a John Dory fish to eat, which is a Southeast 653 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 1: and fish, presumably voiced by Ellen DeGeneres, but it was 654 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: one of his childhood favorites. And Kim Jong un had 655 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 1: a Swiss meal because he spent part of his childhood 656 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: in Switzerland. Uh, and there was this dessert that had 657 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 1: the Korean peninsula painted on it and it got Japan 658 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: hot though. Yeah, it had some islands that Japan had 659 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 1: been like ours on and uh, that they weren't okay with. 660 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,760 Speaker 1: It's a point of contention who's claiming these islands or whatever. 661 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, obviously, you know, symbolism is like 662 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: a big important thing of how they communicate. So I 663 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: guess it culturally makes sense because in America, clearly we 664 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: know what Donald Trump's plan is literally just be like, hey, 665 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: you're comfortable, fuck you and walk out right. So I 666 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: guess it's interesting to show that the North and South 667 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,959 Speaker 1: Korean leaders are trying to maybe show that they also 668 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: want to take these kinds of pea stocks into their 669 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 1: own hands exclusive of the United States and other outside 670 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: countries and being like, yo, this is our like we're 671 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: going to figure this out too. That they're on a 672 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: hop in the driver's seat, which could be interesting, but yeah, again, 673 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 1: this isn't the first time this thing has happened, so 674 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: we can necessarily just throw up the balloons and say like, oh, 675 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: here we go completely denuclearized. But you know, at least 676 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: we're seeing something. So North Korea first promised to denuclearize 677 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:19,399 Speaker 1: in they promised again in two thousand five to give 678 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: up their entire nuclear weapons program. Two six is when 679 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: they tested their first nuclear weapons successfully. So this is 680 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: like they've got a long history of saying like, yeah, 681 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: we're totally down to denuclearization, and then look look at 682 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: our nuke. Something seems a little bit different now, yeah, 683 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: but we'll see again, because yeah, there is a pattern 684 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: of saying yes, people do nuclearized, and then it's not. 685 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: There's not exactly the most tremendous follow through. Yeah, I mean, 686 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: it's tough to say whether the thing that seems different 687 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,919 Speaker 1: is actually a substantive difference or if it's just we're 688 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: coming off of our president taunting their president and their 689 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: president then taunting us back and being like your rocket man, 690 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna bomb you. He's like they're gonna die in 691 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: the flames of our nuclear weapons and ship like if 692 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: it's just like such a contrast that it seems different. 693 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean this is definitely something where Trump 694 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: was out front being like, yeah, because we've had past 695 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 1: administrations have been played like a fiddle, and but they 696 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: can't funk with us. Anymore. They know that, and so 697 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: they're kind of coming to the table, which doesn't seem 698 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,439 Speaker 1: like that's possibly what's going on, but it does seem 699 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: like something has changed, possibly that it's just like, well, 700 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: now both sides know that America is not a leader 701 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: in the region or it's not like they don't have 702 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: America like as strong as a force in the region, 703 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: and so they have to like solve shipped themselves, which 704 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: might not be great for American in the long run, 705 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:54,240 Speaker 1: but it would be better than having a North Korea 706 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: with nuclear weapons for sure, if in fact they are 707 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 1: willing to, you know, disarm. Yeah, I think, and we 708 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 1: even talked about last week about and it's even possible 709 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: that the new thing is that we've introduced a leader 710 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: who we do not know really what they think or 711 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: are not consistent, So that's kind of shaking things up 712 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: to that Trump made it be a wild card too. 713 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 1: I don't know though, but at the very least, I'd 714 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 1: rather be hearing about them holding hands walking around the 715 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 1: demarcation line than you know, aiming artillery at each other. 716 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 1: So yeah. Super producer Nick Stump was pointing out that 717 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: on NPR John Brennan, who's the x CIA director who 718 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: fucking hates Donald Trump and uses some of the most 719 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 1: colorful language to describe how shitty of a leader he is. 720 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: He even pointed out that, hey, you know, it is 721 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 1: true to a certain extent that sort of this appeasement 722 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: policy that the US or the West has been using 723 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: with North Korea hasn't really been effective. So perhaps you 724 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: could point to the fact that Donald Trump's just insane, 725 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: fiery rhetoric is like at least a shift in discourse 726 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 1: that you may be able to say, Okay, maybe this 727 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: did change how North Korean's we're looking at things. Yeah, 728 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: I do think that there's a risk. And this is 729 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: something like that happens in every corner of politics where 730 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: they intersect the US of like focusing on like what 731 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: we did and being like, okay, well, Trump obviously gets 732 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 1: credit for this because it happened when the presidents like, well, no, 733 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: the Koreans have been negotiating the entirety of the time 734 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 1: since the war ended. This is like a very long 735 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: stand Like it's kind of like us being like, look 736 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: at how important America is. Even when a ship heads 737 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: in charge, like we cause this thing to happen. It's 738 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 1: like well, no, maybe this would have happened no matter 739 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: who was president, because they've been negotiating this for decades, right, right, right, Yeah, 740 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 1: it's a similar to like when I think Kim Jong 741 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: un met with like g and China, I think he 742 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: was even like, yeah, I see what I did. So 743 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, there's definitely this tendency to want to 744 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: be able to be like he regardless. Yeah, and that's true. 745 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 1: Like even how you say, Robert that we even as 746 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: like Americans from a foreign policy standpoint, tend to think 747 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,399 Speaker 1: that everything is being completely run at every single moment 748 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: by the United States when other people do exist in 749 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: the world. It's a big world. At the same time, 750 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 1: America is a big and important power in the world, 751 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: and especially when it comes to, you know, relationship with 752 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: Korea and North Korea. Yeah, but we can't discredit that 753 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 1: other people are also putting in work. Yeah, And I 754 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: think it's a very specific way of looking at things 755 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 1: to be like, well, they're scared of America, and therefore 756 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 1: it could just be like they're like, well, America doesn't 757 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: really have the same cache that it had before, so 758 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,279 Speaker 1: now we can negotiate a little bit more freely. And 759 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: also like, why would they be more scared of Trump 760 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 1: than they were of Bush when their nuclear program was 761 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 1: still getting off the ground and Bush was invading countries 762 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 1: left and right, right, Like, Yeah, no, I don't totally 763 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 1: buy that either, But I just don't know necessarily what 764 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 1: is going on in the Korean peninsula yet, So I 765 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 1: don't have an alternative explanation other than they probably read 766 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: the art of the deal and they were like, this 767 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: guy's a genius. We need to say down with him, 768 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: and just we saw him in home alone too, and 769 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: we realized we got a star on our hands. I mean, 770 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,919 Speaker 1: there are sanctions obviously that North Korea has been being 771 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: starved to death for years and years and years, so 772 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 1: there's always the possibility that they were just tired of starving, 773 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: which I would be, you know, with there are all 774 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,359 Speaker 1: sorts of different explanations for it. But you know, if 775 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 1: things are getting better for the world at large than 776 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: more power, we'll take it. We will take it, uh 777 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:33,919 Speaker 1: as we do not need that section of the world 778 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 1: turning into a war zone. All right, We'll be right back, 779 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 1: And we're back, and it is Friday, which means that 780 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 1: it's time for Bloyd Um. So the covers of the 781 00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: tabloids are overrun with stories about the royal baby. Yeah cool, 782 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 1: another baby. Uh. This one is like what fifth six 783 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:13,400 Speaker 1: then line something like that. Uh, and its name is Louis. Okay, 784 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 1: good for you for they said named after Louis c K. 785 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: So timely, well done, guys. It's a weird line royals 786 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 1: to take. I know. I kind of like it though, 787 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,760 Speaker 1: because like when I think royal and I think Louis, 788 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of like the son king, like the most 789 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 1: diva ish male monarch in history's cardinal, wearing some fucking 790 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: high heels around the palace and just like, bitch, yeah, 791 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: look at what those little calf socks and stuff. I 792 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 1: would support the existence of monarchies if they still dressed 793 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:49,239 Speaker 1: that way, just to be like, look, but don't wear 794 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 1: regular people. When that one prince is like flying helicopters 795 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 1: in the British Army, he still has to dress like 796 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: like scampering over to his helicopter and the little booty shorts. 797 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 1: Oh man, yeah, new rule. Yeah this is Bill Mark. Yeah, 798 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 1: everything really is. Actually, they're on every cover, almost not 799 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: on my cover. Over here at the National End, quiet talking, 800 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,839 Speaker 1: we're throwing Michael Cohen under the motherfucking bus. So it's 801 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 1: Trump's fixers, secrets and lies. So this is kind of 802 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 1: an amazing thing that I saw multiple places on the 803 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: National Enquirer is that they're so confident that their readership 804 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 1: only watches Fox News that they can break news that 805 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 1: is just like the very basic stories that we've all 806 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 1: been paying attention to for like the past six months. 807 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: Like they're like, so, Stormy Daniels is a porn star 808 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 1: who Cohen paid a hundred Like, they're just telling the 809 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 1: story of Cohen's role in this wacky Stormy Daniels. Yeah, 810 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: and they also talk about his role in the dossier, 811 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 1: like and the meeting that Cohen allegedly had with Russian 812 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 1: officials and Prague. So they're just basically throwing him under 813 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 1: the bus. So I we we always should start this 814 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 1: section out acknowledging that most of these are published, including 815 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: The National Enquired by American Media, Inc. Which is run 816 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 1: by Trump's best friend guy named David Pekar and exactly, 817 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,360 Speaker 1: so basically he can use all these tabloids to just 818 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: help Trump's like media narratives. So in this case, it's like, oh, yeah, 819 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 1: Cohen's a funk up and Trump really never sucked them anyway, 820 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,880 Speaker 1: so yeah, whatever he did is a lie. Uh. They 821 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 1: also are breaking the news that Facebook and Google know 822 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 1: a lot about you and you should be concerned for 823 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: your privacy. So yeah, it's just what Google, Google clusters 824 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: your favorite treat. It's just basically breaking the news that 825 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,400 Speaker 1: we've all known four years. Yeah, on the National Examiner, 826 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 1: which again I feel like we just stopped buying because 827 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 1: it's only news for people over seventy. It's just like 828 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,399 Speaker 1: the final brave days of Lauretta Lynn or like Queen 829 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,239 Speaker 1: Demand Charles divorced Camilla or you know, daughter tells all 830 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,759 Speaker 1: the Larry Hagman only I knew who's Larry Hagman, I 831 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 1: do not, I mean, only only that person, Larry Hagman. 832 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 1: Oh he was Jr. Okay, I thought, so, okay, that 833 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 1: makes sense because that's the only reason why my first 834 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 1: thing was like, was he in Dallas? Because he has 835 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,360 Speaker 1: a cowboy had in the image Anyway, I don't know, 836 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,240 Speaker 1: don't care. Moving on, title should have been the jr? 837 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 1: From Dallas? Then yeah, exactly, But I think if you're old, 838 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,399 Speaker 1: you know Larry, I mean Larry Hagman. So this next 839 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 1: one in touch. Obviously they're doing their coverage of the 840 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 1: little Prince. But on the side they say, Jimmy Fallon 841 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,480 Speaker 1: is just drinking out of control. I hope almost definitely. 842 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,320 Speaker 1: If they're asking that question, I think we can just 843 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 1: assume yeah. And of course they put a picture of 844 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 1: him mid blink, so it looks like he's all like bleriot. Uh. 845 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,319 Speaker 1: And then when they look in there, basically all they're 846 00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,759 Speaker 1: saying is someone saw him at a Yankee game. Drink 847 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,759 Speaker 1: to beer is real quick, and that's what they're basing 848 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,720 Speaker 1: it off of. So I mean, they don't quite describe 849 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 1: the pace at which you drink them, like I get. 850 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 1: If you drink two big gas baseball beers back to 851 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:14,839 Speaker 1: back real quick, then I may be like, oh, you're 852 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 1: trying to get a buzz off those beers. But if 853 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 1: he's just having two beers at the game, maybe sort 854 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 1: of in a spirited way. I don't know if you 855 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,359 Speaker 1: can just say, oh, man, his drinking is oh but man, 856 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 1: they got a great picture for it, right, yeah, exactly, 857 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,880 Speaker 1: which is him sipping a beer. So again, yeah, his 858 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 1: his license shambles. Uh. And I think they point to 859 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 1: the loss of his mother as a possible factor in that. Uh. 860 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 1: And then what else they got on Us Weekly just 861 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 1: more fucking weird ship to draw you in. Like first, 862 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 1: Lady Milan, you're doing it her way, so you're like, okay, 863 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 1: so maybe during all the cheating and all these other 864 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 1: weird things, maybe she's doing something right. It's just about 865 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,880 Speaker 1: her life. There's nothing about doing it her way in 866 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 1: any way. Uh, let's see the other tabloids not very interesting, 867 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,800 Speaker 1: a royal baby. And then really what I like to 868 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,240 Speaker 1: point to as the globe, right, so you can always 869 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 1: tell because David Pecker is Donald Trump's best friend. That 870 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,240 Speaker 1: like how crazy the cover stories are about the Clintons 871 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 1: typically shows you how bad a shape Trump is in 872 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 1: the news. So a few weeks ago they were like, oh, 873 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,359 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton has a brain tumor and she's dying. Uh, 874 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 1: this week they got it Clinton's cought in double murder investigation. 875 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 1: Wholely shit. Now when you open this story, it is 876 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,239 Speaker 1: insane because what they are trying to say is that 877 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 1: apparently this guy who has a little rock radio show, 878 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 1: this guy named Doc Washburn, had a former professional wrestler 879 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,479 Speaker 1: by the name of Billy Jack Haynes on his show, 880 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 1: and he said that then governor of Arkansas, Bill Clinton 881 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 1: recruited him quote as a muscle for a rogue Cia 882 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,760 Speaker 1: drug running operation and ordered the deaths of Kevin Ives 883 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 1: seventeen and Don Henry sixteen after they accidentally stumbled upon it. 884 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,800 Speaker 1: So I guess Bill Clinton was moving crazy weight a 885 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of yo from Colombia in Arkansas 886 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,239 Speaker 1: in the eighties. Clearly it's about the Clinton's, right, but 887 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 1: the way they talk about it is always framed as 888 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 1: about Hillary. So even this thing is about Bill Clinton 889 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,719 Speaker 1: ordering these sort of murders, they say. Last December, thirty 890 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 1: years after the Innocent Kids death, Haynes revealed he was 891 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,360 Speaker 1: hired by a quote criminal politician ensure nothing was stolen 892 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,840 Speaker 1: from an August cocaine shipment uh that he was importing 893 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 1: from Colombian drug king Pablo Escobar. So now you got 894 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,640 Speaker 1: Escobar in the many in cartel. And then it follows 895 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 1: the quote criminal politician Handes swore to Washburn was Hillary 896 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:38,359 Speaker 1: Clinton's husband was also known as Bill Clinton. That's surprisingly 897 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,440 Speaker 1: woke though, because it's always like whenever you've got like 898 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:46,439 Speaker 1: a notable man and woman who are married, woman's his husband. Yeah. 899 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 1: A crime novel written by Patton Oswaltz was actually I 900 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 1: support their wokeness and that yeah, and then so what 901 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 1: they do is even more shocking. Haynes claimed Clinton gave 902 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,760 Speaker 1: the order to finish off the boys in a chilling 903 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,359 Speaker 1: cell phone call. He goes, we can't leave no witnesses, Billy, 904 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 1: you know I gotta get rid of I can't leave 905 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 1: no witnesses, Hayes says, And I heard Hillary in the 906 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 1: background saying the same thing, you cannot leave any witnesses. So, 907 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:15,800 Speaker 1: first of all, how many motherfucker's has cell phones like that? 908 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:17,839 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? That's already like a weird 909 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 1: technological thing. And also the fact that he has to 910 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,839 Speaker 1: add the added incriminating quote from Hillary off the phone 911 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:29,800 Speaker 1: being like witnesses. Make sure he hears me say it too. Yeah, okay, 912 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. If Hillary Clinton were not the most 913 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,719 Speaker 1: boring woman in the world and had been like moving cocaine, 914 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,840 Speaker 1: she would have won the election. When Donald Trump was 915 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 1: stocking her ass around that stage, wouldn't like, you go 916 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 1: back the fuck off. She would have pulled out a 917 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,920 Speaker 1: switch play. She's like, I used to move wild White across. 918 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:51,879 Speaker 1: Then you do not want this ship, hablo Escobar's dead. 919 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,359 Speaker 1: Motherfucking me. You know why Bill's hair is white from 920 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 1: what I fucking blow he was doing in the eighties. 921 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 1: Bro back up. So yeah, that's clearly not going on. 922 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,479 Speaker 1: So again shout out to the Globe for really trying 923 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,239 Speaker 1: to distract people again to point the finger note, it's 924 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:08,840 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton's husband who is the murderer. Yeah, very clearly, 925 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:13,239 Speaker 1: so cool Bloyd watch this week. Uh, alright, a couple 926 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:17,239 Speaker 1: of the stories we wanted to hit. Yeah, Alexa raise 927 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,000 Speaker 1: my kids. The new feature is coming out I guess 928 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:25,359 Speaker 1: called free Time on the Echo, and it's basically optimized 929 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,720 Speaker 1: for kids, so you can just leave your children alone 930 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 1: with a Echo and they can ask it all the 931 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,160 Speaker 1: annoying ship like why is the sky blue? And stuff 932 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 1: like that. So in this new feature, they will basically 933 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,879 Speaker 1: turn your c I a surveillance tube into a child 934 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 1: caretaker now, uh, and like it will you know, it 935 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,719 Speaker 1: can limit access to shopping features or news or other 936 00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,520 Speaker 1: explicit content. And it also like optimizes the voice detection 937 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,719 Speaker 1: for kids voices because they're like higher pitch or like, 938 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,239 Speaker 1: you know, kids they should like Alexa or whatever, so 939 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 1: it'll it'll know how to listen to children and now 940 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,440 Speaker 1: instead of just giving direct answers when you're like, yo, uh, 941 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 1: you know how many grahams in an ounce, it's not 942 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,080 Speaker 1: just gonna say eight grahams. It'll give the kids more context, 943 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 1: so it'll you know, it'll give you more details. So 944 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 1: it's like really explaining to a kid answers that they 945 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,120 Speaker 1: want to know. So you can just be in the 946 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,360 Speaker 1: other room, smacked out of your mind and let the 947 00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,840 Speaker 1: machine raise your children. And it also has a like 948 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,920 Speaker 1: magic word feature that will reinforce sort of like manners 949 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,239 Speaker 1: because there's been a lot of like think pieces I've 950 00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 1: seen from parents being like, my kids talk so rude 951 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,400 Speaker 1: to these AI assistants or whatever. So now it'll make 952 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:32,040 Speaker 1: you say like please and thank you. So hey, parents, 953 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,279 Speaker 1: throw your hands up in the air, waver around like 954 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 1: you just don't care because Amazon has answered your prayers. Yep, yeah, 955 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:43,040 Speaker 1: that can't possibly be a problem. Not letting a little 956 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,680 Speaker 1: machine tube It seems like one of those things like 957 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,200 Speaker 1: where you know, it seems funny now, but like really 958 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 1: we will see these kids who were raised by, like 959 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 1: not raised by, but got a lot of information out 960 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 1: of an echo from growing up. I feel like the 961 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,320 Speaker 1: more power we give Amazon over the developing minds of children, 962 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,960 Speaker 1: like the better off will all be yes. Yeah, high 963 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,360 Speaker 1: school graduation, Ramsey, I'm not gonna fucking deal with this 964 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:14,319 Speaker 1: kid is going to show up at his graduation. Yeah, 965 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,840 Speaker 1: your house is just littered with these new echoes. What 966 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,920 Speaker 1: the is this? Jack? Yeah? These are these are my 967 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,800 Speaker 1: kids new parents. Talk to me. Uh oh. And finally, 968 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,480 Speaker 1: I just want to bring up that Paul Ryan forced 969 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,839 Speaker 1: out the House chaplain out of his job, forced him 970 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,000 Speaker 1: to resign. The Jesuit priests who like does prayers and 971 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 1: stuff for Congress, the original s JW Man dude got 972 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,799 Speaker 1: kicked his ass out and people are very confused why 973 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,080 Speaker 1: he like suddenly resigned, And it's because other House Republicans 974 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,880 Speaker 1: started complaining about him, Like when they were voting on 975 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,279 Speaker 1: like the tax scam, he liked led a prayer that 976 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,960 Speaker 1: basically asked people to get back in touch with their 977 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,520 Speaker 1: humanity and consider what the effects were of this bill, 978 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,200 Speaker 1: and they did not fucking like that, so they that 979 00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,200 Speaker 1: was like one of the first complaints. Then this Jesuit 980 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,719 Speaker 1: priest had the nerve to have an e mom come 981 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,279 Speaker 1: in and speak to the House and they were like no, no, no, 982 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,360 Speaker 1: this is bullshit. So all these complaints really had to 983 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,160 Speaker 1: do with the fact that he was a person of 984 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:15,320 Speaker 1: God who was really trying to inspire the teachings of 985 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 1: the Bible and the most basic sense of like being 986 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:21,320 Speaker 1: compassionate and caring about people and not like running immigrants 987 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,320 Speaker 1: out on a rail or being you know, homophobic and 988 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 1: other ship like that. And like another thing, apparently he 989 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,080 Speaker 1: had an interview in the National Journal where he was 990 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,239 Speaker 1: like saying like, yeah, like there needs to be more 991 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,359 Speaker 1: accountability in like Congress for like sexual assaults and things 992 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,960 Speaker 1: like that. So these are the kinds of complaints they had, 993 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,799 Speaker 1: and Paul Ryan cave and now this Jesuit priest has 994 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,879 Speaker 1: to resign. Well, if I know my Jesus, there's two 995 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,960 Speaker 1: things that he was all about. And thing number one 996 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,880 Speaker 1: was taxing the poor, and thing number two was he 997 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:55,399 Speaker 1: loved money changers. That's true. That's watch the tax collector's feet, right, Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, 998 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,600 Speaker 1: he's a big fan of that. Yeah, I guess, so, 999 00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,080 Speaker 1: you know people he loved loved why people love white Jesus, 1000 00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,000 Speaker 1: that's it. And then also they even warned him like 1001 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,279 Speaker 1: a few months ago where someone like literally said to 1002 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,320 Speaker 1: him stay out of politics, pod Ray, stick to the 1003 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:13,080 Speaker 1: stick to the ghost stories about Jesus bro Goddamn, let 1004 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:18,080 Speaker 1: me fucking steal from the an entire generation of people. Boom, alright, 1005 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:23,200 Speaker 1: Happy Friday. It's a good Friday, Robert. It's been lovely 1006 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:28,160 Speaker 1: having you man. Thanks sox on our network. Where can 1007 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,560 Speaker 1: people find you? You can find me on the twitters 1008 00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 1: at at I write okay, two letters, Okay. You can 1009 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,520 Speaker 1: find my book on Amazon, A Brief History of Vice, 1010 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,440 Speaker 1: And you can find my podcast Behind the Bastards dropping 1011 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,680 Speaker 1: on May fet and you can find a new episode 1012 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,799 Speaker 1: every Tuesday. Uh, it's gonna be great. We're gonna talk 1013 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 1: about Stalin's drinking binges and and all sorts of fun stuff. Yeah, 1014 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,800 Speaker 1: oh my god, it's amazing. I'm even on an episode 1015 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,960 Speaker 1: coming up eventually. Uh. And I'm telling you, guys, if 1016 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,720 Speaker 1: you like history and you want to know weird stuff, 1017 00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I consider myself like someone who likes his street, 1018 00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,760 Speaker 1: but Roberts your your ability to dig up this stuff 1019 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,680 Speaker 1: is second to none. So yeah, it's definitely worth those. Yeah. 1020 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,640 Speaker 1: And there's something about like bad people, like the bad 1021 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,440 Speaker 1: guys of history. They're just like way more interesting. I think, 1022 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 1: it's maybe because well, first of all, they're crazy, but 1023 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 1: second of all, we just like have to turn them 1024 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 1: into just complete villains, so we cut all the interesting 1025 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,799 Speaker 1: ship out of their lives, and yeah, we dehumanize them. 1026 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,040 Speaker 1: Like I've spent most of the last two weeks for 1027 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,520 Speaker 1: the episode we're about to record, looking through everything with 1028 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,520 Speaker 1: some of bin Laden had on his hard drives, just 1029 00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,360 Speaker 1: hours and hours of watching it, and it's nuts. But 1030 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,759 Speaker 1: it's not like Bond villain nuts. It's like the motherfucker 1031 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,239 Speaker 1: had like forty hours of Tom and Jerry videos, right, 1032 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:43,239 Speaker 1: Hey man, I'm sure like because they didn't have like 1033 00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,920 Speaker 1: access to other like entertainment, so you got to load 1034 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 1: up them hard drives when you hide out. Yeah. Yeah, No, 1035 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,360 Speaker 1: Tom and Jerry very violent. Uh. And I think we 1036 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,000 Speaker 1: can all now say that Tom and Jerry caused not 1037 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 1: eleven for sure. I've been saying that for years. You 1038 00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,480 Speaker 1: have been saying that to a weird degree, like almost 1039 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 1: every time give us Twitter follow uh hashtag Tom and 1040 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,879 Speaker 1: Jerry trio, hashtag false Flag, hashtag comm and Jerry. Yeah yeah, 1041 00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,800 Speaker 1: but yeah, it turns out reality is like Batman movies. 1042 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:15,439 Speaker 1: The villains are way more interesting than the heroes. Miles. 1043 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,200 Speaker 1: Where can people find you? You can find me on 1044 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,320 Speaker 1: Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grade g r A 1045 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,400 Speaker 1: Y not e y stop misspelling my name. It's very 1046 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,000 Speaker 1: come on people. You can find me at Jack Underscore 1047 00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,600 Speaker 1: Brian on Twitter. You can find us at Daily's like 1048 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,120 Speaker 1: Ice on Twitter. We're at the dailies like uist on Instagram. 1049 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,200 Speaker 1: We have Facebook camp page and a website Daily's like 1050 00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 1: guys dot com where we post our episodes and air 1051 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:41,279 Speaker 1: but now where we link off to the information and 1052 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 1: sources of that information that we talked about on today's episode, 1053 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:47,840 Speaker 1: and we also link off to the song that we 1054 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,120 Speaker 1: ride out on, which miles. What is it today? Today? 1055 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,239 Speaker 1: Let's do something from Little Dragon And this is a 1056 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,400 Speaker 1: song is called Clap Clap I think come out like 1057 00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:01,279 Speaker 1: like four years. Wow, it's been four years, are any guys? Uh? Yeah, 1058 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,080 Speaker 1: it's just a great song. Uh. I just it's got 1059 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,319 Speaker 1: big Little Synth vibe to it. And I just really 1060 00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,439 Speaker 1: enjoy a Little Dragon and I want to end this week. 1061 00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,959 Speaker 1: I want some high energy. I also love Big Little 1062 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,760 Speaker 1: Synth's been a fan of their work. All right. That 1063 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:21,000 Speaker 1: was my dad joke for the week. Yeah, it was hilarious. 1064 00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,840 Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna write out on that we will 1065 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,640 Speaker 1: be back on Monday. Uh talk you guys. Then a 1066 00:57:26,680 --> 00:58:04,080 Speaker 1: good weekend. Bye. I stand awaiting from my turn to 1067 00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:15,000 Speaker 1: do at arise. This pays buck co camera. But girls 1068 00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:23,720 Speaker 1: who love Hi screamed up so way forten and said, 1069 00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:33,880 Speaker 1: whether this still col weather? Feel better for b So 1070 00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:39,320 Speaker 1: what if I want pase? I could do another way, 1071 00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:53,760 Speaker 1: but this way lot's beep baking bron, I'm not even 1072 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:58,000 Speaker 1: come monding to go still side then wake us to light, 1073 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,560 Speaker 1: make them chance doing steps to give it and to 1074 00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:07,959 Speaker 1: this moment say every time pull into the soul my broom, 1075 00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:14,000 Speaker 1: come bout the flowering, you'll be one more. The girl 1076 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:21,560 Speaker 1: from core dorson, she said, he wanted don't you know 1077 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:25,440 Speaker 1: you want to do? You? Don't you see you want it? 1078 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,840 Speaker 1: Don't you know you want to don't you don't you 1079 00:59:45,880 --> 01:00:05,800 Speaker 1: stand by? Feel better? So Conway, stay up the sad 1080 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:15,000 Speaker 1: seems want to do you want to be game? She said? 1081 01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,080 Speaker 1: Do you want to do? You want to do? Funy 1082 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,240 Speaker 1: be you steel Jesus