Speaker 1: What do you call two guys that were there when
Speaker 1: this happened?
Speaker 2: Back to return at Spurlock.
Speaker 3: Michael Spurlock of the Chimok.
Speaker 4: He's still the twenty. He's to the twenty five Parlo
Speaker 4: thirty to the forty yard line.
Speaker 2: We could see history.
Speaker 4: Fifty forty to the thirty yard light. Now look, Michael run,
Speaker 4: Michael Luck, Michael run, touchdown, Tampa Bay.
Speaker 3: There you go, and.
Speaker 4: That shotgun sends wee receivers left. Here's the staff of
Speaker 4: the glitzer has picked up Brady Unity caught ball ups.
Speaker 2: He has the record at the eleven yard line.
Speaker 4: Mike Evins becomes the first NFL player in lead history
Speaker 4: to record a thousand yards of more of this first
Speaker 4: seventh seasons.
Speaker 3: That want to throw by Brady.
Speaker 4: Congratulations Mike Evens, who can forget looking gat holds up
Speaker 4: the hats.
Speaker 3: Other side, Terrek Bucks thirty touchdown Tampa Bay. Derek Brooks
Speaker 3: the most valuable player.
Speaker 1: In the National Football League. There it is Dot Daggers
Speaker 1: in we are gonna win.
Speaker 3: The Super Bowl. Here's the snap.
Speaker 2: Mahomes running to his right. Lookout he may run Mahome director.
Speaker 4: Now battle INTERCEVN picked over the ins on Fox.
Speaker 1: I gotta beat the Chief.
Speaker 3: Where the chapters of the world that we still have.
Speaker 2: I'm in a thirty three Togo Davin White.
Speaker 3: What a great second season. That's it for Casey. Bucks
Speaker 3: are the Super Bowl champs.
Speaker 2: They can't stop the plot. We call them the Salty Dogs.
Speaker 3: Welcome everybody, do the Salty Dogs podcast. I'm Scott Smith,
Speaker 3: I'm Jeff Ryan, and we are the Salty Dogs. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and uh, we're feeling good. I've been looking forward to
Speaker 3: this one for a few days now.
Speaker 2: I'm looking for well, oh the podcast.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh. I was just happy to have a victory Monday
Speaker 2: in a month. It's been awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've been waiting for a win for a while.
Speaker 3: The Bucks coming off now a thirty to seven domination
Speaker 3: of the New York Giants and the Meadowlands. And it's
Speaker 3: not just that the Bucks won, Jeff, it's there. There
Speaker 3: was so much cool stuff that happened. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: It was a game for if you were a Buck fan,
Speaker 2: to make you feel good that, hey, this is why
Speaker 2: this team could be.
Speaker 3: Were you overwhelmed by all the tweets? Because there were
Speaker 3: so many things tweeted about.
Speaker 2: It was a lot going on it was. It was
Speaker 2: a lot happening. And my my takeaway from that game
Speaker 2: was you did what you were supposed to do and
Speaker 2: it wasn't a squeaker.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean, even even if you're playing a
Speaker 3: team I think we were favored by five or five
Speaker 3: and a half points on the road, on the road,
Speaker 3: even then, even if you win the game, I mean,
Speaker 3: you've been happy with any kind of wish. Oh yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3: I think they did more than just take care of
Speaker 3: business to beat any team. Thirty to twenty seven. I mean,
Speaker 3: thirty to seven is a pretty good accomplishment. I mean,
Speaker 3: look at the Chiefs. Yeah, just barely squeaking by the
Speaker 3: Panthers that they're winning. Oh no, no, I know. I'm
Speaker 3: just saying they did what they were supposed to do
Speaker 3: as well, but only one by three points.
Speaker 2: And I will take the responsibility of losing this shit
Speaker 2: out in a stupid move on my part. I was
Speaker 2: planning ahead, which you should not do, and I didn't
Speaker 2: have my game book with me, and so I went on,
Speaker 2: I'll just text Scott and I said, hey, when was
Speaker 2: the last time the Bucks had a shutout? And he
Speaker 2: replied back to me it was against the Panthers last
Speaker 2: year at last in January of last year, the last
Speaker 2: regular nothing and tell them what you did after you
Speaker 2: text me.
Speaker 3: As soon as I texted you, I I turned to
Speaker 3: Andrew in the communication department and said, well, when we
Speaker 3: lose this shut out, you can blame.
Speaker 2: Joyeah and for JR.
Speaker 3: Is what I said.
Speaker 2: And guess what we did.
Speaker 3: We did and you're taking it. You're taking credit for it.
Speaker 3: I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: And I knew you know, it's funny you kind of
Speaker 2: like I like to be ready for that stuff.
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, but that's when you quietly look it up
Speaker 3: on your own and anybody else.
Speaker 2: Right, And I take and and so here is my
Speaker 2: this week's game book right here, and it's going to
Speaker 2: go in it actually, like here's last week's. It's on
Speaker 2: the prind.
Speaker 3: Didn't make the trip, I know, and I and I
Speaker 3: had it so it would go in. You've even got
Speaker 3: it open to the last time I do.
Speaker 2: So I was looking at some stuff.
Speaker 3: One of the stat pages I update every week is
Speaker 3: called last time. That's what It's just a list of
Speaker 3: the last time a number of different things happened. And
Speaker 3: had Jeff had that with him, he could have just
Speaker 3: turned to turned it because there's definitely a last shutout.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and give you an examples, like the last time
Speaker 2: one hundred yards rushing by the Bucks or buy an opponent,
Speaker 2: you know, one hundred and fifty yards receiving, just little
Speaker 2: things that you just might not.
Speaker 3: Hastime we got a safety. Yeah, last time we won,
Speaker 3: ye last shutout. Last time we won in the final
Speaker 3: game of the minute.
Speaker 2: Of the game, kickoff return for a touchdown.
Speaker 3: Last time a quarterback through five touchdowns and four touchdowns,
Speaker 3: three touchdowns, and.
Speaker 2: You can The point is you can write in next
Speaker 2: week's last time Jr. Is going to ask shutout? Ask
Speaker 2: any questions?
Speaker 3: Yes, hopefully we're worried about that again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be nice.
Speaker 3: I mean, we did shut out the Panzers the last
Speaker 3: time we played them. Hm. It was a close game though,
Speaker 3: and it was only because of Antoine Winfield that we
Speaker 3: shout yea as well. But anyway, what I mean by
Speaker 3: there was so much cool stuff going is like, I'm
Speaker 3: sure most people that would listen to this podcast have
Speaker 3: already heard these notes or read them on Buccaneers Dot
Speaker 3: Commerce somewhere. But for the first time in any game
Speaker 3: in franchise history, four different guys scored a rushing Touchdow. Yeah,
Speaker 3: all three active running backs and a quarterback and our quarterback.
Speaker 3: So that was Rashad White, Bucky Irving, Sean Tucker, and
Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield, not that order. Ye, Tucker was first, which
Speaker 3: was by the way, since I do consume fantasy football stuff,
Speaker 3: podcasts and articles. That's what that's what's called being vultured
Speaker 3: because people nobody would have started Seawan Tucker. He didn't
Speaker 3: even play a single offensive snap of the game before,
Speaker 3: but in fantasy a lot of people would be starting
Speaker 3: Bucky Irving, who ran the ball down to the one,
Speaker 3: and then they put in Sean Tucker not to mention Vita,
Speaker 3: and that hurt, and so Sean Tucker got the six
Speaker 3: points for the touchdown instead of instead. But it ended
Speaker 3: up being a good fantasy game for Bucky as well,
Speaker 3: sure since he also scored, and he had the fifty
Speaker 3: six yard run, he had.
Speaker 2: Grazed thirty two yard catch.
Speaker 3: Both those plays wereus.
Speaker 2: That the best part about that play was Baker Mayfield
Speaker 2: running down.
Speaker 3: Not sure how much he helped. I think he helped
Speaker 3: a little.
Speaker 2: He got a chip block in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he I mean Bucky did get about fifteen more
Speaker 3: yards at the after the point at which Baker made
Speaker 3: contact with one of the defenders. I think the guy
Speaker 3: that we needed to take out of play, unfortunately, was
Speaker 3: on the other side of Bucky. Yeah, that's the guy
Speaker 3: that was going to catch him any case. It was
Speaker 3: a cool play. But okay, so you have that first
Speaker 3: time in almost fifty years of football that's ever happened
Speaker 3: for the Buccaneers. Wow. And then also eleven different players
Speaker 3: caught a pass, which tied a team record and has
Speaker 3: only been done now five times for the Buccaneers. Have
Speaker 3: both those happened in the same game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy. And there was not a touch There
Speaker 2: was not a receiving touch.
Speaker 3: No, there no passing touchdos. But and this brings me
Speaker 3: to another great note. I got it written down, but
Speaker 3: I don't even need to look at it. I was
Speaker 3: going to say it later, but you just brought it up.
Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield did not throw a touchdown pass, yet his
Speaker 3: passer rating at the end of the game was a
Speaker 3: one hundred and seven point five. That is the highest
Speaker 3: single game passer rating in team history without a touchdown
Speaker 3: in a game where the guy didn't throw a touchdown.
Speaker 3: It's really hard to get a pass rating that high
Speaker 3: without throwing some touchdown. You would think you have to
Speaker 3: be basically near perfect on completion percentage. And he didn't
Speaker 3: throw a pick, and his yards per tempre was like
Speaker 3: nine point eight, which is the highest of the year
Speaker 3: because he threw for two hundre ninety four yards on
Speaker 3: thirty passes. I looked in the last no, I looked
Speaker 3: it up. I don't know how far back it went,
Speaker 3: but there were only three instances in the entire NFL,
Speaker 3: dating back to like two thousand at least, in which
Speaker 3: any quarterback got a pass rating over one oh five
Speaker 3: without throwing a touchdown pass. One of them was Kurt
Speaker 3: Warner back like in two and one of them was
Speaker 3: Ben Roethlisberger in like twenty fourteen. So it's just totally uncommon.
Speaker 3: And yeah, we kept running the ball in because we
Speaker 3: would get the ball down to the one, Like Mike Evans,
Speaker 3: they tries to throw a touchdown pass instead, he gets
Speaker 3: a passer ferens on the balls at the one and
Speaker 3: would run it in, right, I mean, Baker, nobody on
Speaker 3: the team cares who scores. Sure, just get the ball
Speaker 3: in the end.
Speaker 2: As long as you do score.
Speaker 3: He easily could have had several touchdown passes in that game,
Speaker 3: but the ball just kept getting stoped right around the one.
Speaker 2: It was a fun game, it was, and the weather
Speaker 2: was absolutely terrific.
Speaker 3: It was a gorgeous thing.
Speaker 2: It really was. It's one of those days where and
Speaker 2: you took the crowd out right away.
Speaker 3: Michael Pannick said, it did get a little chili down
Speaker 3: on the field the.
Speaker 2: Winter in Yeah, and when the sun shifts over right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it goes because it gets wet dark quick there right now. Yeah,
Speaker 2: gets dark around four fifteen, which nobody likes. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: were on the bus and it was like only like
Speaker 2: five thirty in the afternoon, and you thought it was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's crazy.
Speaker 3: We were supposed to be there a little earlier than that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that was air traffic controlling issues, which this
Speaker 2: traveling for the Thanksgiving weekend. We've had a hard go.
Speaker 3: My son's flying back in tonight. Oh great from Atlanta.
Speaker 2: Just himself or yes, okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we we got on the plane. The plane arrived
Speaker 3: a little later than expected, and then we sat on
Speaker 3: it for a while because they air traffic controls were
Speaker 3: just they were they.
Speaker 2: Were holding a lot of flights out of Jacksonville was
Speaker 2: being held up shortage of air traffic controllers.
Speaker 3: Oh, is that what it was? But it was mainly
Speaker 3: flights headed to the northeast. So we just it was
Speaker 3: just bad luck. And that wasn't a big deal at all.
Speaker 3: But I did learn a very valuable lesson what don't
Speaker 3: count on the planes entertainment system working. You have to
Speaker 3: bring a back up. So it was working when we
Speaker 3: got on. I started watching a movie. Yeah, and then
Speaker 3: it went out, which happens, and they'd usually rebooted, and
Speaker 3: then you're fine and it rebooted. But you just I
Speaker 3: saw you doing it too. You push that continue, but
Speaker 3: nothing would happened. And then it rebooted like three more times,
Speaker 3: just to tease you that it was going to start working.
Speaker 3: And it didn't work the entire flight up or back.
Speaker 3: So on the way back, I make sure I had
Speaker 3: I had some entertainment holded on my tablet because I
Speaker 3: didn't think of that headed in. You you got to
Speaker 3: be prepared for the book or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are champagne problems.
Speaker 3: You're absolutely right, You're absolutely you know.
Speaker 2: At a time, people would fly in their plane and
Speaker 2: there was no entertainment there was in the front. I
Speaker 2: remember the TVs used to drop down and you thought
Speaker 2: that was really yeah, or the one in the middle
Speaker 2: of the aisle and you would just lean to watch it.
Speaker 3: I know, you're absolutely right. It's a miracle that we're
Speaker 3: able to fly from one city to another. And I'm
Speaker 3: here complaining about the entertainment, sister. But that's my point.
Speaker 3: I learned a lesson. Bring a book now, every puzzle book.
Speaker 2: Now. Everybody complains if there's not life, especially when you're
Speaker 2: on a one o'clock game, flying home you want to watch.
Speaker 3: So or on Saturday flight wanting to watch college football.
Speaker 2: See, I'm fine just sitting there really, Yeah, I just nothing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you don't look at your phone well when the WiFi
Speaker 2: is dropping in and out. No, just sometimes I just
Speaker 2: especially after a game, I just want to.
Speaker 3: That's weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm tired.
Speaker 3: I mean it's probably a good thing.
Speaker 2: Well, I've had a headset on for you know, four
Speaker 2: hours and just listening to all different chatters.
Speaker 3: I didn't know what to do. I can't just sit there.
Speaker 3: I played a game on my phone for a long Yeah.
Speaker 2: I did notice that you were It was.
Speaker 3: About all I could do.
Speaker 2: What was the game?
Speaker 3: I don't know what it's called. It's just a game
Speaker 3: where you keep adding your point to so that's what
Speaker 3: you do. And I just chill. I played a little
Speaker 3: Mexican dominoes. Ah, that's a fun game.
Speaker 2: Okay, very good. So what else you get on this game?
Speaker 3: Where do you want me to start?
Speaker 2: Well, let's see.
Speaker 3: Here's what I would say. I think to me, and
Speaker 3: we just talked about. I think the two big things
Speaker 3: to me from this game. One is after Okay, so
Speaker 3: after Chris god one of Mike Evans got hurt, there
Speaker 3: was a steady decline in our offensive numbers. It was
Speaker 3: still pretty impressive what Liam and Baker were able to
Speaker 3: do in most of those games without those guys, but
Speaker 3: it was it was hard. It was a struggle, and
Speaker 3: were particularly were dropping explosive plays. And then the two
Speaker 3: losses right before the by to Kansas City and San Francisco,
Speaker 3: both of which were three point losses, right yep. Zero
Speaker 3: plays of twenty or more yards, not a single one.
Speaker 3: And I think Baker said it too before this last game.
Speaker 3: You know, it's hard to keep We were scoring almost
Speaker 3: thirty points a game before those injuries. It's hard to
Speaker 3: keep scoring that many points when every drive has to
Speaker 3: be methodical. And we talked about that last week and
Speaker 3: some of the drives you sometimes you succeed, but more
Speaker 3: often than not, something's going to mess up that drive.
Speaker 3: But if you mix in a thirty yard play here
Speaker 3: or a fifty yard play there, now you're cutting the
Speaker 3: field in half. Yeah, and you don't have to make
Speaker 3: twelve plays. You can do it in four or something, right,
Speaker 3: less chance to mess it up. So zero of those
Speaker 3: plays in those two games. We had six of them
Speaker 3: against the Giants, and five different players caught a pass
Speaker 3: of more than twenty five yards. That's great, That's what
Speaker 3: we were talking about San Francisco doing when they beat us.
Speaker 2: But I will say I did enjoy the first drive
Speaker 2: as methodically the Yeers marched down the field and took
Speaker 2: all that time off the clock. I mean it happened
Speaker 2: eight and a half minute drive and it was just
Speaker 2: go and you really had a sense that that was
Speaker 2: the kind of day it was going to be.
Speaker 3: Right And and that's perfect for what the point I
Speaker 3: was making. I agree that was a fantastic drive. Methodical
Speaker 3: got it in yep. But then also after that we
Speaker 3: started getting explosive plays and that's how we were able
Speaker 3: to score thirty points this of like twenty the week
Speaker 3: out right. So yeah, it's good that you can do
Speaker 3: both of those things. And it basically i'd say it's
Speaker 3: the Bucks offense is finding lots of different ways to win.
Speaker 2: That's what I like the best. It's not just one
Speaker 2: one guy. It's you got to pay attention to everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And eventually I love Vidavea being in the block,
Speaker 2: but I my guess is in a few games, somewhere
Speaker 2: down the line he's getting the wall. Don't say that, Wow,
Speaker 2: what you don't You don't think a coach is looking
Speaker 2: at that and there now they gotta now they got
Speaker 2: to play for it. You can mess with him.
Speaker 3: Robert Hainesy was also in on those places and so
Speaker 3: they could throw it to him to you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And speaking of vidave I really felt bad for
Speaker 2: the center of the Giants. He a grown man getting
Speaker 2: pushed back that.
Speaker 3: I mean, whoa did you hear Clija talk about He's
Speaker 3: like he's not even serious in the huddle. He's like
Speaker 3: cracking jokes in the huddle. He's happy, he's got mad.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine him being pistol.
Speaker 3: For him to do that to a grown man without
Speaker 3: even being pissed off.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: And you gotta feel for the guy because you know,
Speaker 2: in the film room in New York they're killing him
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 3: Well, they probably understand it.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, you know, I mean, when you see
Speaker 2: Vita A on TV, he looks big. Until you see
Speaker 2: him in person, you really don't understand how large a
Speaker 2: man this is. But the best play was the running
Speaker 2: back trying to go by him and he sticks his
Speaker 2: arms yeah, one handed, like like it was a little carab. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like a little kid.
Speaker 3: No, you're not going anywhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, unreal.
Speaker 3: It's like when you put your hand on your little
Speaker 3: brother's forehead, whip your arms around. Yeah. So okay. So
Speaker 3: the other thing I said, there were two things that
Speaker 3: really stand out, one being the exposed to plays being back.
Speaker 3: The other is just Baker Mayfield is an entertainer man,
Speaker 3: Oh keeps put on a show. Think of all the
Speaker 3: things that he did in that game. Yep. First of all,
Speaker 3: like I said, he completed twenty four to thirty passes
Speaker 3: for twohundred ninety four yards. All right, check one hundred
Speaker 3: and seven point five passers.
Speaker 2: An efficient passer.
Speaker 3: Okay, he ran a ten yard touchdown in in which
Speaker 3: he juked one defender and then dived over another.
Speaker 2: Check great touchdown.
Speaker 3: Then he delighted Bucks fans with his tribute to Tommy
Speaker 3: DeVito yeah, and with his uh you almost touched down?
Speaker 3: I did. I messed up one tweet. Somebody somebody pointed
Speaker 3: out to me.
Speaker 2: What we're talking about is Divito. When you say de Vito,
Speaker 2: what's the first name you think of?
Speaker 3: Damn?
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 3: So when you're when you're that's because I had so
Speaker 3: many you're just tweets. I was firing off, and this
Speaker 3: one was about Jordan Whitehead getting hurt. Not only did
Speaker 3: I call him Jordan white Yeah in the tweet, but
Speaker 3: I called Tommy DeVito Danny DeVito. I got both names
Speaker 3: wrong in the.
Speaker 2: Same time and they got blown up.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I didn't somebody told me about it
Speaker 3: and I didn't notice until Monday morning, and then I
Speaker 3: looked at him like, oh, I can't believe I did that.
Speaker 3: But it was kind of funny, and I deleted it.
Speaker 3: But to many people have already seen him.
Speaker 2: So but it happens because you're going and doing stuff
Speaker 2: on the fly. You know, Yeah, I'm trying to get
Speaker 2: it out there. So back to he makes it, he
Speaker 2: makes it, he does the uh the the way the
Speaker 2: Tommy DeVito is his hands up in the air kind
Speaker 2: of like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, money money, funny gesture with his fingers. Okay, so
Speaker 3: all those things we've already said Baker did he Also
Speaker 3: you mentioned he was fifty yards downfield blocking.
Speaker 2: For directing traffic. Wave follow me, follow.
Speaker 3: Me for Bucky on his fifty six yard run. And
Speaker 3: how about this one? I think it was Buck Bucky
Speaker 3: fumbled at like the five yard line and nobody noticed.
Speaker 2: No one saw the ball pop out.
Speaker 3: And then it kicked off two different offen.
Speaker 2: And Baker Mayfield jumps off.
Speaker 3: He's well, he didn't just jump on it. He ran
Speaker 3: like ten yards to get to it because he saw
Speaker 3: it first and he ran like ten yeards and jump
Speaker 3: on it. And you see the replaying it wasn't fumble. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And you talk about presence of mind and not checking
Speaker 2: out on a play, all that stuff that Baker is doing.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just so much. It's I you know,
Speaker 3: I read on Twitter or something, and you're reading comments
Speaker 3: or reading comments somewhere else. Bucks fans love this guy, Well.
Speaker 2: There's I think he was misunderstood. I think that you know,
Speaker 2: when you're a first round pick and you're going to
Speaker 2: a team that's really struggling and that's Cleveland, which they
Speaker 2: seem to still be struggling, and you're supposed to be
Speaker 2: the be all to be all, and he's young and
Speaker 2: he had success there, got hurt and then it went
Speaker 2: south on him. But I think because he spoke his
Speaker 2: mind and that doesn't always bow well when you're not winning.
Speaker 2: And well, I think that's what kind of got got him.
Speaker 3: He's a good leader on this great leader. He's fiery,
Speaker 3: he is willing to do whatever it takes, like when
Speaker 3: he's on little scrambles.
Speaker 2: He loves the game of football.
Speaker 3: And you know, you read the it's often on articles
Speaker 3: about the Browns and it's like back and forth between
Speaker 3: Browns fans saying they want him back, why did we
Speaker 3: let him go? And Bucks fans saying thank you for
Speaker 3: for letting us have Baker.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they gave up on him pretty quick.
Speaker 3: They well they just decided that the shiny thing in
Speaker 3: the display case being Deshaun Watson, and.
Speaker 2: Boy that really paid out. Well I paid out. See
Speaker 2: what I did there. Yeah, they're the only ones that
Speaker 2: are paying on that one. It is, which is which
Speaker 2: that deal changed the NFL pay scale for quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: It didn't.
Speaker 2: You don't think it did. No.
Speaker 3: The thing that everybody's worried about in that deal was
Speaker 3: that all of the money was guaranteed teed. Yeah, the
Speaker 3: money keeps going up, but that was gonna happen anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but nobody else has gotten a fully guaranteed deal since that.
Speaker 2: Well, I guess apparently it shows why you shouldn't at
Speaker 2: that point. But but yes, Baker is what you see
Speaker 2: is for real.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean some of the throat Like I remember
Speaker 3: one throw where he scrambled out of trouble to the
Speaker 3: right and then threw like maybe a fifteen to twenty
Speaker 3: year past to Mike Evans, and it was just he
Speaker 3: can get so much zip on the ball even when running.
Speaker 3: And I just I just I said a few weeks
Speaker 3: ago he could just make He can make all the.
Speaker 2: Throws, not afraid to go run for a first down
Speaker 2: if he sees the opportunity, which kind of scares you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean he's gonna do it. So I
Speaker 3: when I see him take off in most cases if
Speaker 3: you could tell that he's got the open grass, like
Speaker 3: he's going to do what it takes to make it there.
Speaker 3: But there was one of those plays where he scrambled
Speaker 3: and I thought he it was third down and I
Speaker 3: thought he was gonna scramble for the for the first down. Instead,
Speaker 3: he lobbed it over the top to Paying Durham, who
Speaker 3: had kind of broken off his rock.
Speaker 2: Which was a great catch.
Speaker 3: It was a great catch, but he put it over
Speaker 3: the defender to where only pain could get it. I mean,
Speaker 3: he he got it to us. It wasn't an easy play,
Speaker 3: but he got it to a spot where Paying could
Speaker 3: get it. And it made me think, how do these
Speaker 3: quarterbacks know because they seem to inherently know that they
Speaker 3: haven't crossed the line of scrimmage yet how few times?
Speaker 3: How many times have you watched a guy scramble forward
Speaker 3: and then make a throw and think, oh, come on,
Speaker 3: he was over the line? And how many times did
Speaker 3: was he actually over the line? You very rarely see
Speaker 3: that penalty.
Speaker 2: Is it totally over the line?
Speaker 3: You have to be the line?
Speaker 2: Okay, so you can you can be one leg over,
Speaker 2: one leg in the back.
Speaker 3: You're I don't know why I'm standing up, can't see me,
Speaker 3: but you couldn't have your foot like if you're straight out,
Speaker 3: if this is the line of the line of scrimmage
Speaker 3: right back here, Look how I've got like a yard
Speaker 3: and a half of past the line where my foot is.
Speaker 3: But as long as like the back of my foot
Speaker 3: has not been touching the line, you're still you're still okay.
Speaker 2: Which is a weird rule, right, And that's what throws
Speaker 2: everybody off, because everybody thinks once you take one step
Speaker 2: over it, he goes, oh, he's you're over the line
Speaker 2: of scrimmage.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying how I mean. I know sometimes you
Speaker 3: could be running to the line and you could see
Speaker 3: the marker, right, But it can't be the case. He
Speaker 3: can't always be looking where you can see the market.
Speaker 3: But they always seem to know they're not over the line.
Speaker 3: I thought Baker was over the line when he threw
Speaker 3: that ball, ye, but he clearly knew he wasn't.
Speaker 2: Right, it's president. I guess that's what makes you a
Speaker 2: good quarterback, right.
Speaker 3: One of the things right, throwing good is probably the
Speaker 3: biggest one.
Speaker 2: Throwing good, seeing the field. He does all of those things.
Speaker 3: So actually I think that's number one. I think I've
Speaker 3: always thought that great quarterbacks just have an innate vision
Speaker 3: to see the field. And it's a thing you can't
Speaker 3: teach a player doesn't have it, right, correct, You can
Speaker 3: get him better in a lot of ways, right, but
Speaker 3: they're never going to be that great Tom Brady type
Speaker 3: quarterback if they don't have an innate a bit to
Speaker 3: see the whole field.
Speaker 2: Yeah they can, you can work on their mechanics things
Speaker 2: of that nature, but you can't. You can't change that.
Speaker 2: So but as you said, Baker Mayfield has live up
Speaker 2: to everything we were hoping for and more. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 2: what else you're looking at?
Speaker 3: Lot's you know we have eleven rushing touchdowns? Now, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know how many we had last year? Uh ten,
Speaker 3: eight to eight and seventeen games. We have eleven and
Speaker 3: eleven games, and we're something we're I think we're tenth
Speaker 3: in rushing yards per game and top ten and yards
Speaker 3: per carry. I mean, it's something we haven't had a lot,
Speaker 3: isn't it.
Speaker 2: Isn't it great that last year all everybody was talking
Speaker 2: about is you've got to get a running game, and
Speaker 2: this year nothing is being said about lack of a running.
Speaker 3: Game because we don't have a lack of running game, right,
Speaker 3: but what a difference. Uh, you know, you get you
Speaker 3: get a second back. I mean we have a third
Speaker 3: in Seann Tucker about primarily a second back in Bucky Irving,
Speaker 3: who has worked out well, very great, you could say,
Speaker 3: by the way.
Speaker 2: About that, How about that the Buck fans that were
Speaker 2: up there yelling Bucky Bucky And every time we.
Speaker 3: Go to New York, I feel like we could get
Speaker 3: good fan show out.
Speaker 2: But to me, that's just not an easy stadium to
Speaker 2: get to. You know, I don't know it's because it's
Speaker 2: out kind of Nowhere's Land, but I guess.
Speaker 3: And it's kind of a concrete jungle.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, that's all that's there.
Speaker 3: It's just overpasses all over the place.
Speaker 2: That would be the New Jersey Turnpike.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, but yeah, I forgot.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I made you go. You were
Speaker 2: talking about rushing touchdowns?
Speaker 3: Yeah more than yeah, we were. Obviously the run game
Speaker 3: is doing a lot better, and that's something that Liam
Speaker 3: Cohen stressed from this first, very first day here. So
Speaker 3: that's really but yeah, you get, you get one more back,
Speaker 3: so it's not all on a shod and you get
Speaker 3: a guy that's a little bit different in that he
Speaker 3: is so good at breaking tackles or forcing mistackles out,
Speaker 3: turning small runs into long ones. His thirty two yard
Speaker 3: screen had like thirty three yards of yak on it,
Speaker 3: and he had juke out about three guys before he
Speaker 3: got into the open field.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: And then that that fifty six yard run was just
Speaker 3: a simple pitch around the left end and they had
Speaker 3: him and bottled up and he found a way out.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to say who some of his moves
Speaker 3: look like because I don't want to be ridiculed again.
Speaker 3: Whoa you remember?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he has that look like that by Scott
Speaker 2: But yeah that.
Speaker 3: And then you get a new center in Graham Barton
Speaker 3: who's apparently playing.
Speaker 2: Very well, playing very well.
Speaker 3: Cody Mauk, the whole get Bigger and Stronger thing comparently
Speaker 3: is working definitely.
Speaker 2: And having Luke back was great, but.
Speaker 3: We didn't have Tristan Wurf's and Justin School played great.
Speaker 2: And during the pregame show, we had Jason light on
Speaker 2: as we do every week live, and he was talking
Speaker 2: about the offensive line and he felt like today was
Speaker 2: going to be a break out game for the O line.
Speaker 3: Wow. Yes, that's quite a prediction given that coming into
Speaker 3: that game.
Speaker 2: And and he mentioned it and we were I guess
Speaker 2: I can share this. We were on the airplane and
Speaker 2: it's eight o'clock at night and I get a text
Speaker 2: from Jason and he says, how about my fortune telling
Speaker 2: the skull and Retison having good games?
Speaker 3: Nice?
Speaker 2: And he talked about Retison having a good game because
Speaker 2: he formed a New York Giant and he had something
Speaker 2: to prove. And so when Jason said it, I made
Speaker 2: a note about O Line because I figured, Okay, let's see.
Speaker 2: But it was great that that.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then Todd Bowles, either postgame or on Monday,
Speaker 3: really was heaping a lot of praise on mouk In,
Speaker 3: Graham Barton.
Speaker 2: And also Luke Getticky.
Speaker 3: But well, no, the two guys he brought up, Yeah,
Speaker 3: because they were talking about holding Dexter Lawrence.
Speaker 2: We called his name one time.
Speaker 3: He had one quarterback hit, he had no sex. This
Speaker 3: was a guy that led all NFL interior defensive lineman
Speaker 3: with nine sacks coming into that game. Despite the fact,
Speaker 3: what are you looking at? That's a guy that talks
Speaker 3: about Yeah, it's the scientist guy. Yeah, I can't think
Speaker 3: of his name.
Speaker 2: I can't either. Oh man, you're like, you're like a
Speaker 2: shiny penny guy. I mean seriously, Oh, Dexter Lawrence.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 2: Lit one sack.
Speaker 3: He had been going into that game. He had been
Speaker 3: double teamed on sixty four point six percent of his
Speaker 3: pastor's snaps and had nine sacks. That's crazy. If you
Speaker 3: have either of those two things from a nose tackle,
Speaker 3: you love it to get both is insane.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: By the way, with Vida having six and Calidja having five, Yeah,
Speaker 3: the Bucks and the Bucks, Yeah that too. The Bucks
Speaker 3: and the Rams are the only two teams with two
Speaker 3: interior linemen with the least five sacks. Wow. So that
Speaker 3: whole idea of pairing Kelijah with Vita, now that Kelijah's healthy,
Speaker 3: it's really showing up. Yeah. But yeah, they the Giants.
Speaker 3: That's an incredible prediction by Jason Jason Nostrodamus because the
Speaker 3: Giants led the league in sacks for pass play rate
Speaker 3: coming into a game at thirteen nine percent, so they
Speaker 3: were essentially the best pass rush in the NFL. No secks,
Speaker 3: thirty passes, no.
Speaker 2: Sacks, And which interesting is when he said it. He
Speaker 2: said it with conviction. It wasn't It was kind of like, hey,
Speaker 2: what do you think of the old line today? And
Speaker 2: he was all in and boy, he sure saw that
Speaker 2: he saw something.
Speaker 3: All of gamling that you know, in a game like
Speaker 3: and in addition to all the great feelings that it
Speaker 3: gives me, it also just makes me go, man, Chris Godwin,
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, add Chris Godwin to what you just saw.
Speaker 2: Bringing up Chris Godwin. He was on Bucks Turtle Access
Speaker 2: on Monday. It's It's on bucks dot com hit podcast.
Speaker 2: Absolutely terrific. Just just listening to him for fifty three
Speaker 2: minutes is really awesome.
Speaker 3: And he talked about how he felt right afterwards, and
Speaker 3: he's coming off the cart for the one first time
Speaker 3: he'd ever been taking off the field on a cart
Speaker 3: because when he tore his a cl you know one
Speaker 3: or whatever it was, he walked off the field. You
Speaker 3: can't really do that when your ankle's not going in
Speaker 3: the right direction. Right now, he talked about what the
Speaker 3: rehab process has been like, which was not easy in
Speaker 3: the first couple of weeks because he was a lot
Speaker 3: of lying on his back. He has not been able
Speaker 3: to still isn't allowed to put weight on it yet
Speaker 3: for the first six weeks. But he also talked about,
Speaker 3: you know, how determined he is to do this rehab,
Speaker 3: like just like he was last time. And then the
Speaker 3: feedback from fans when it was announced that he was
Speaker 3: going to be the guy is really really the buck
Speaker 3: fans wanted to hear from him. How's it going? Buck
Speaker 3: fans love Chris Godwin. We all do too, of course, yes,
Speaker 3: but I'm just saying we just talked about how great
Speaker 3: the offensive line is playing and it'll be and that
Speaker 3: was without Tristan Wurf's and all Pro left tackle. You
Speaker 3: got a great stable running backs now, right. I mean
Speaker 3: you love all those guys at this point. You got
Speaker 3: Mike Evans back, you found Kate Otten has really emerged,
Speaker 3: You found a lot of different ways to move the ball.
Speaker 3: You got pretty much everything. Yeah, you can't replace what
Speaker 3: Chris was doing, though. I mean, think about the Zerling.
Speaker 3: Shepherd had like five catches and most of them were
Speaker 3: straight down the line, screen tunnel screen type things, but
Speaker 3: he only ended up with like sixteen yards. He's done
Speaker 3: some nice work on screens, but they didn't come to
Speaker 3: much in this game. I mean, that's like the Chris
Speaker 3: Godwin specialty. I'm just saying the Buccaneers are top five
Speaker 3: scoring offense right now. I think we're fourth, And if
Speaker 3: Chris Goden was there, you could make an argument that
Speaker 3: it's the best offense in the league. You probably have
Speaker 3: to argue with Baltimore Fans. Well, yes, not the Chiefs
Speaker 3: this year, Buffalo, maybe Miami. There's some pretty good offenses
Speaker 3: out there, but they would be in the discussion as
Speaker 3: the best offense in the league. I think if Chris
Speaker 3: Godwin was.
Speaker 2: There, right and he and everything you said is true,
Speaker 2: and if you when you listen to him speak about
Speaker 2: all of what he's going through and how he's trying
Speaker 2: to come back, it certainly is. At one point when
Speaker 2: he was talking about laying on the field and talking
Speaker 2: about where one ankle, which is normal, and then his
Speaker 2: other leg the ankle is Yeah, that's not the way
Speaker 2: it's supposed to be. I mean, it is kind of
Speaker 2: I don't know how to describe it. Gros No, it
Speaker 2: wasn't gross. There was more of it just made you
Speaker 2: like going, oh man, you know you you he really
Speaker 2: brought you into how he was feeling.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't ever want a feeling that. So
Speaker 3: we had we had three three straight touchdown drives in
Speaker 3: the game that where eighty two yards are along. I know, crazy, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: there was never any point where you felt like they
Speaker 3: were really coming back. No, but twenty three to nothing
Speaker 3: coming out of halftime, they finally get a drive. Now
Speaker 3: in the first let me just throw these stats out there.
Speaker 3: In the first half, the Giants had forty five yards
Speaker 3: of offense. They had two We had a lot more
Speaker 3: than that.
Speaker 2: No, did they They had like two hundred.
Speaker 3: Now they finished the game with two forty five. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but they had something like forty five yards time. They
Speaker 3: had no third or fourth down conversions. They they had
Speaker 3: three first downs. They had run three plays on the
Speaker 3: buccaneer side of the field, three in the entire first half.
Speaker 2: That's a good half.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And so they come out and they finally get
Speaker 3: a drive move and and I don't know what adjustments
Speaker 3: they made, certainly it appeared that somebody told Tommy DeVito
Speaker 3: to start getting the ball, getting the freaking ball to
Speaker 3: elite neighbors. Yeah, because they started throwing into them constantly,
Speaker 3: which which.
Speaker 2: Was interesting going into the half. Todd Bulls said, you know,
Speaker 2: of course, it's like, hey, what a great half you're
Speaker 2: doing this. And then what what's the message for the
Speaker 2: second half? And he said the score is nothing to nothing.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's cool, right, right, But then they come.
Speaker 2: Out out and they marched down the field and I
Speaker 2: was like, dang, what is going on? Yeah, well, I
Speaker 2: mean it's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: But still you can't he can't expect them never want
Speaker 3: the ball.
Speaker 2: Look, I looked up, well, you looked up. Shut out.
Speaker 3: I had it. So they drive all the way down
Speaker 3: the field and get to the five yard line and
Speaker 3: then they run a play where Tommy DeVito is split
Speaker 3: out wide to the left and it's a direct snap too,
Speaker 3: I don't remember who, and he handed it to Tyrone
Speaker 3: Tracy and the running back in it, and the Bucks
Speaker 3: defense completely swarmed over him, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: the ball pops out and guess who caused the force fumble?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: I guess who forced the fumble?
Speaker 2: Four?
Speaker 3: Take a while, guess five? Four? Yeah it was Levante
Speaker 3: of course. Yeah. And that's not an accident, folks, it's
Speaker 3: not an accident. He knows exactly what he's doing.
Speaker 2: I was going to say, we had him in the
Speaker 2: post game and he talked about it and he said,
Speaker 2: it's a you see it. You can see where the ball.
Speaker 3: He well, he told me once that it's just there's
Speaker 3: a certain point where the running back is a certain
Speaker 3: amount from the ground, and that's when he's going to
Speaker 3: take one hand off the ball to put his hand
Speaker 3: on the ground to break his fickes ball. And that's
Speaker 3: always when if he can. Levante Tryson knocked the ball
Speaker 3: out at that moment where he goes to braces. That's
Speaker 3: where you go for it. Wow, And it's just what happened. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: And so now the Bucks have thebaut the five and
Speaker 3: they march ninety five yards pretty much take up the
Speaker 3: rest of the third quarter arter yep, and score a touchdown. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and that came pretty much. Yeah. Now it's thirty to
Speaker 3: seven going into the fourth quarter, and there's no you know,
Speaker 3: you never say never, I suppose, but considering how the
Speaker 3: defense had played overall, and they ended up getting some
Speaker 3: yards at the end, because you know, when you're all
Speaker 3: you're trying to do is run out the clock. You know,
Speaker 3: they like their last drive, they got like six fifty
Speaker 3: or sixty yards and it was all just underneath passes
Speaker 3: to the running back for ten yards here, fifteen yards here,
Speaker 3: because of course you're you're going back and giving that up. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And they didn't end up again after their first touchdown.
Speaker 3: So it was a more dominant defensive performance than it
Speaker 3: looked like in the final numbers.
Speaker 2: But it's like you said, they are going to get something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean it's just we talked about how
Speaker 3: eleven different guys caught a pass, but it was like
Speaker 3: a lot of them only had one, but it was
Speaker 3: it was always a big play, Like Ryan Miller had
Speaker 3: one catch, but it was like at a fourteen third
Speaker 3: and eleven where he took two huge hits and held on. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Or Rakim Jarrett Rock Kim Jared with that great jumping
Speaker 3: catch for thirty yards. Kay Otten had a thirty yard
Speaker 3: pass and it was big for one of the drives.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seemed like when your number got called, they answered,
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, each player did.
Speaker 3: So you have Mike Evans back and he caught five
Speaker 3: passes for sixty eight yards, I think, which was great.
Speaker 2: And he looked good. He didn't look like he was
Speaker 2: favoring anything, and.
Speaker 3: Todd said he felt really good after the game.
Speaker 2: That's the key.
Speaker 3: Mike himself said that he he feels better now than
Speaker 3: he did going into the Ravens game when he got hurt.
Speaker 3: And you may know, maybe everybody doesn't out to know,
Speaker 3: he had a hamstring injury he was dealing with and
Speaker 3: he was not perfect going into that Ravens game and
Speaker 3: then it got agga aggravated and he said, maybe he
Speaker 3: should have sat that game out. Yeah, but he feels
Speaker 3: better now than he did before. That's the Ravens injury.
Speaker 3: So that's a good sign.
Speaker 2: It's huge.
Speaker 3: He's he's got a lot of work to do. If
Speaker 3: he's going to get that thousand.
Speaker 2: Yards hat, you know that would he have sixty eight
Speaker 2: yards at.
Speaker 3: Sixty eight he needed going into the game. He needed
Speaker 3: to average ninety five a game over the last seven
Speaker 3: to get there. Now it's closer to one hundred games.
Speaker 2: Well, but here's the good news. I mean, and I
Speaker 2: may be jumping the gun, but he has a tendency
Speaker 2: to have a really good game against Carolina. So hopefully
Speaker 2: this week, yeah, there'll be something there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he does have good games against carol If he
Speaker 3: could get one giant game, that'd make it a lot
Speaker 3: more possible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep.
Speaker 3: He had two hundred and seven against Carolina once.
Speaker 2: And I think I think it's interesting that eleven different
Speaker 2: guys caught a ball and it kind of took the story.
Speaker 2: There seemed to be a storyline trying to start. Are
Speaker 2: you going to try to feed Mike the ball or
Speaker 2: you try to get him there? And eleven different guys.
Speaker 2: You know, if Mike's not open, you can't throw one.
Speaker 3: Well, the very first play of the game, Baker looked
Speaker 3: at Mike and I saw exactly where his first read was,
Speaker 3: and then he came off and tried to dump off
Speaker 3: to Kate On. Yeah, but he did have a lot
Speaker 3: of catches early on, but they weren't forced. So that
Speaker 3: first play gives you an idea. They tried to start
Speaker 3: the game with getting the ball to Mike and Baker's like,
Speaker 3: not forcing it there, and that's what the defense gives me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's smart play. And that's what he's been
Speaker 2: doing all year. Yeah, and that's what we need. No question,
Speaker 2: you're looking at your nose.
Speaker 3: I'm just glad that the Giants don't have Saque Barkley anymore.
Speaker 2: No, and I'm sure the Eagle fans are happy they
Speaker 2: don't have him either. But then again, would he be
Speaker 2: having the kind of year he's having if he was
Speaker 2: still on the Giants. Eagles have a much.
Speaker 3: Very much better offensive.
Speaker 2: Line, so that would be you know, I'm not taking
Speaker 2: anything away from from him. I'm just saying would he
Speaker 2: because sometimes a running back gets rid good if your
Speaker 2: offensive line starts doing good. And I will say kind
Speaker 2: of like, our running backs this year are doing really
Speaker 2: really well compared to what everybody was complaining.
Speaker 3: I'm just say last year juxtapposing us playing the Giants
Speaker 3: and really handling their offense. With the game that Baker,
Speaker 3: I mean that Saque had for the Eagles on the
Speaker 3: same day, It's.
Speaker 2: Like, whoa, he had more yards than the Giant.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it didn't have like two hundred fifty or something.
Speaker 2: Yes, he had more yards than the entire Giant team.
Speaker 2: How's that for not signing someone?
Speaker 3: This is like, yeah, I mean, it's it's tough, Jeff,
Speaker 3: because I know the analytics for the last ten years
Speaker 3: have been screaming at you not to pay big money
Speaker 3: to running backs, and you can just draft another one
Speaker 3: and like we did with Bucky plug and play and
Speaker 3: the Giants have a pretty good rookie BA and Tyrone Tracy.
Speaker 3: He's not no, no, no, you just wonder if if
Speaker 3: maybe it's not that, maybe it was. The Eagles signing
Speaker 3: made a lot more sense than the Giants resigning. Say, yeah,
Speaker 3: the Giants followed the hole. Don't put your money in
Speaker 3: the twenty eight year old running back.
Speaker 2: They have more holes than that.
Speaker 3: The Eagles have an awesome offensive line, they have a
Speaker 3: mobile quarterback, and they already had receivers in place, and
Speaker 3: they were a lot closer to winning, so it made
Speaker 3: a little more sense for them to sign Saque.
Speaker 2: But what hurts is they don't sign them. And the
Speaker 2: one thing they didn't want to happen was for him
Speaker 2: to go to the Eagles, and then that's that's not
Speaker 2: I think John Mara said that he wouldn't sleep at
Speaker 2: night he was the owner of the Giants something like that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't sleep at night if if he went to
Speaker 2: the Eagles. So he's having a lot of sleepless nights.
Speaker 3: The the part though, that I think probably irritates Giants fans.
Speaker 3: I don't know what to say. Go on and got it.
Speaker 3: Five million, seven million went out here. They paid Drew
Speaker 3: Lock five million dollars to be their backup quarterback and
Speaker 3: they don't even go to him. No, well he did
Speaker 3: get in for one play.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's because uh but now, but now Tommy's arms
Speaker 2: a little questionable for Thursday.
Speaker 3: Oh really from that play?
Speaker 2: From that play? Oh did he get blown up on
Speaker 2: that play in the end zone? I mean, that was
Speaker 2: a great I mean, I didn't think it was rough
Speaker 2: in the passer, but it wasn't called. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: but it was. It was pretty dramatic.
Speaker 3: That was one of the plays where I didn't really
Speaker 3: see that happen. I don't remember what I was looking
Speaker 3: at until watching the highlight. Another another thing that caught
Speaker 3: me by surprise was they they're kicking off to us
Speaker 3: after their only touchdown, and I look up and I
Speaker 3: see Sean Tucker like five years deep in the end
Speaker 3: zone trying to run it out, and the coverage unit's
Speaker 3: already there, and I'm like, what the hell happened? How
Speaker 3: did this? Say? I know what happened now, Well, yeah,
Speaker 3: I can tell you what happened. I know now, But
Speaker 3: at the time I was really confused with what was
Speaker 3: going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what did you think was going on?
Speaker 3: I didn't know what was going on. So what happened
Speaker 3: in case anybody out there didn't see it, is they
Speaker 3: had a low bouncing kick that Shaun Tucker tried to
Speaker 3: field at around the seven and it touched his hands
Speaker 3: but went under them because it was a bouncer and
Speaker 3: it went into the end zone.
Speaker 2: Did it touch his hand?
Speaker 3: Yes, And he knew that, okay, And he also I
Speaker 3: give him credit. I give him credit here and give
Speaker 3: credit to Thomas mcgahe the special team's Courdaer. He knew
Speaker 3: that he couldn't just go back there and down it
Speaker 3: because he touched in the field of play. If he
Speaker 3: got tackling the en zone, it would have been a safety.
Speaker 2: See, we thought that he didn't touch it, and he
Speaker 2: couldn't yell down and if he didn't touch it, that's
Speaker 2: I didn't But I was under the assumption or the
Speaker 2: impression when it happened that he did not touch it.
Speaker 3: I saw the replay and it sure looks like he
Speaker 3: touched it, and his reaction would make me think he
Speaker 3: touched it, Yeah, because he knew he had to get
Speaker 3: back there. If he just lets it go, if he's.
Speaker 2: Touching it, I want to I want to check that out.
Speaker 2: I'm curious now, but if he But but the rule is,
Speaker 2: if you touch it goes in the end zone, you
Speaker 2: have to be first of all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, first of all, he had to get to it
Speaker 3: before they did, because if they get it after he
Speaker 3: touched it to touch that if he gets the ball
Speaker 3: that can't get out of the end zone, it's a safety.
Speaker 3: So he gets the ball back to about the one
Speaker 3: and a half yard line, which is a overall pretty
Speaker 3: terrible result, right, but not as bad as it could
Speaker 3: have been. And then it wasn't bad at all because
Speaker 3: two plays later, Bucket broke off the fifty six yarder.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that that's interesting. I didn't looking
Speaker 2: live at it, but once a lot of times in
Speaker 2: a play like that, you're you're moving on. But smart,
Speaker 2: smart heads up all the way and.
Speaker 3: Give him credit for knowing. And yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 3: guess we can check with Thomas T. Mac. I'm just curious,
Speaker 3: you know, if to me to verify that he did
Speaker 3: touch the ball, but it certainly would have looked like
Speaker 3: to me. Mm okay, I didn't think so hard.
Speaker 2: But well I didn't think so, but I could be wrong,
Speaker 2: Not that I would be, but you know, could be,
Speaker 2: but it's also a good it was what would we
Speaker 2: It's there's so many different rules to pay attention to,
Speaker 2: so when when plays like that happened, we we go
Speaker 2: through them and say, this is what you could have done,
Speaker 2: this is what rules A lot of.
Speaker 3: Rules a lot and they don't call all the rules
Speaker 3: or or a whole other story, or they do or
Speaker 3: don't use replay assist.
Speaker 2: See they used it during our game, and no one
Speaker 2: really was questioning anything other than well, I guess what
Speaker 2: happened was it was supposed to be. It looked like
Speaker 2: it was or wasn't a first down and there wasn't
Speaker 2: a challenge, and replay assists said, yeah, that was a
Speaker 2: first down, which I thought was interesting because I thought
Speaker 2: it for a spot of the ball it had to
Speaker 2: be challenged. It seems like I m mistaken on that.
Speaker 3: I don't know, Jeff, because I thought I kind of knew.
Speaker 3: And the whole face mask thing has strong me off
Speaker 3: because I've seen at least twice where it seems very
Speaker 3: clear that replay assistant told them to throw a face
Speaker 3: mask flag when they didn't do it originally. But that
Speaker 3: did not happen in our game against the Land.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that cranks you up.
Speaker 3: So there are I don't know. I don't know from
Speaker 3: week to week what are you're allowed to. Bude is
Speaker 3: allowed to.
Speaker 2: But I do like this because you don't have to
Speaker 2: look at anything. It's just a guy looking at it, like,
Speaker 2: just get it right. Well, it's like the guy sitting
Speaker 2: at home looking at his replay and going, he didn't
Speaker 2: do that, you know, And so hopefully it keeps progressing
Speaker 2: in the right direction.
Speaker 3: We'll see.
Speaker 2: And you're studying.
Speaker 3: Well, i've seen what we haven't talked about.
Speaker 2: Okay, you don't cross him off as we go.
Speaker 3: I've been, you've seen me. I don't know what's why.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Anthony Nelson, Yes, he just seems to
Speaker 3: always take advantage of the opportunities when unfortunately an injury
Speaker 3: takes one of our oilbs or more of them out.
Speaker 3: And Joe Tryon Shoyinka went down in this game with
Speaker 3: an ankle injury. Yeah, I think maybe in the second quarter. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Anthony Nelson gets a lot more snaps. He gets his
Speaker 3: most snaps of the season so far, gets a sack,
Speaker 3: gets two quarterback hits, two tackles for loss. Now a
Speaker 3: sack also counts as a quarterback hit and a tackle
Speaker 3: for loss, but that means that means he got one
Speaker 3: sack plus another play where he hit the quarterback, plus
Speaker 3: a different other play where he had a tackle for
Speaker 3: loss that was against a non quarterback. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: you have like four tackles. Ye. I mean he's a
Speaker 3: perfect rotation guy because he's been doing that for aughout
Speaker 3: his career.
Speaker 2: Then that's how you stay in the league.
Speaker 3: And that's how he got a second contract the Bucks.
Speaker 2: You previously when I said when the guy's numbers were
Speaker 2: being called, it seemed like everybody stepped up in this game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Joe goes down, Jordan Whitehead goes down.
Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, I thought Mike Edwards was
Speaker 2: going to have a pick, did you Yeah, By the
Speaker 2: way it happened, as the ball got there, he caught
Speaker 2: the receiver in the hip and he spun them around
Speaker 2: and that's when the ball came out.
Speaker 3: Okay, but it was close. It was close. I think
Speaker 3: I didn't see that play because it was so far
Speaker 3: from the press box to the press conference room. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: near the locker room. Yep. I had scotted it out
Speaker 3: before the game, and so I left earlier from the
Speaker 3: press box and I normally do, and there was a
Speaker 3: nice table down there that I could work on, And
Speaker 3: so the last five minutes the game, I didn't see
Speaker 3: a whole lot of it.
Speaker 2: You can tell when a press box is far away
Speaker 2: from the locker room when they have golf cards that
Speaker 2: say coaches on it, meaning that they ride the coach
Speaker 2: in a golf cart. There just saying wow, I know
Speaker 2: that stadium. We were having a debate about that. Were
Speaker 2: you sitting there when someone said it was a really
Speaker 2: nice stadium and everybody's going as concrete?
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I didn't think.
Speaker 2: And then and then the video boards like you can't
Speaker 2: see him. There's four of them, but they're not that good.
Speaker 3: Wait, we weren't talking about that stadium. Yeah, no, we
Speaker 3: were talking.
Speaker 2: About Are we talking about giant stadium?
Speaker 3: No, No, we were talking about something else.
Speaker 2: I thought we were talking about because it was a
Speaker 2: newish stadium. Yeah, we were talking about that was building
Speaker 2: like eleven or something or something like that. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: thought it was. I thought it was. We were talking
Speaker 2: about the giant stadium because it is. It is a
Speaker 2: massive concrete and steel. But I think you have to
Speaker 2: have that more there because of the weather.
Speaker 3: No, we were talking about Sofi. We were talking about
Speaker 3: Sofi Stadium, the rams and chargers, that's one hundred percent
Speaker 3: what we were talking about.
Speaker 2: How can you not like Sofi Stadium?
Speaker 3: That's what I was on that side. I think it's
Speaker 3: neat looking.
Speaker 2: I thought we were talking about No, we were talking about.
Speaker 3: Sofi, and I was the descending opinion who thought it
Speaker 3: looked pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Then they were idiots because Sofi is very cool.
Speaker 3: Well, their argument was that it's it's not that cool
Speaker 3: looking and that it the video boards are surprisingly that
Speaker 3: great given how recently it was built.
Speaker 2: Right hmm, Okay, anyway, I must have I must have
Speaker 2: blanked out because I thought and that's why I didn't
Speaker 2: say anything, because they were talking about the jobs.
Speaker 3: Met Life Stadium is huge. Uh but you know it's
Speaker 3: one of those just big bulls, which is fine. It's
Speaker 3: just not that terribly interesting.
Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting about so far real quick as they
Speaker 2: had back to back games. They played on Sunday and
Speaker 2: then they played on Monday yesterday.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that wasn't easy.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Wow, I made the comment last night.
Speaker 2: I said, well, it's both blue. How much you got
Speaker 2: to change my team, I know, but it's just saying.
Speaker 3: I made the comment to somebody in the text that
Speaker 3: during the game that the Chargers have like the five
Speaker 3: best uniform combinations in the league. I did like last night,
Speaker 3: so it was great, but they got other great ones too.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so but I like the Chargers when I was
Speaker 3: growing up. Yep.
Speaker 2: Well, you get to see him in a few weeks,
Speaker 2: so that's true.
Speaker 3: I won't be rooting for him then, No, nope. You
Speaker 3: know we were talking about the plane earlier.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think it's funny when you're when we land and
Speaker 3: we're getting off, we're about to get off. They they
Speaker 3: always come on the intercom and tell us to look
Speaker 3: around you for your stuff, make sure you don't leave anything, wallet's, phones, whatever,
Speaker 3: and then they throw in there, this plane is not
Speaker 3: the one we're gonna be flying back on, you know,
Speaker 3: so make sure you don't leave your stuff, Like that's
Speaker 3: the deciding factor. Like I was gonna go, well, I
Speaker 3: can leave my tablet on the seacause it'll be back
Speaker 3: here tomorrow.
Speaker 2: But I will say this, if the plane stays and
Speaker 2: you leave something, they go through the planet shot and
Speaker 2: then you got a shot of getting it back.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying telling you to look around and get
Speaker 3: your stuff is enough, adding that the plane is not
Speaker 3: going to be there anymore, Like like I was not
Speaker 3: motivated to look for my stuff because I'm like, it
Speaker 3: doesn't matter, It'll still be there when we get back.
Speaker 3: Well does that?
Speaker 2: I think it's kind of like, don't blame off us
Speaker 2: if you left your stuff behind because we told you
Speaker 2: to get your stuff, and we told you the plane
Speaker 2: is leaving and going back to Atlanta and it's going
Speaker 2: to be on an international flight.
Speaker 3: I just think it's a little it's not really all
Speaker 3: the name.
Speaker 2: I'm going to bring it up. Bring I'm going to
Speaker 2: bring it up.
Speaker 3: Did you see the what with whom?
Speaker 2: With the airline people?
Speaker 3: You're going to bring it up.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna bring it.
Speaker 3: You're not gonna use my name? Are you not going
Speaker 3: to talk?
Speaker 2: I'm throwing you underneath the bus. Yeah, so they'll go
Speaker 2: Scott Smith. So you know the plane is not passenger
Speaker 2: in fifty one g it's.
Speaker 3: You know what you know I'd like to see in
Speaker 3: the games coming up? What an interception or two for
Speaker 3: our evens. We haven't had one since Week six in
Speaker 3: New Orleans. We haven't had a single interception. Yes, I
Speaker 3: think now interceptions continue to go down across the league.
Speaker 3: If you have twenty years ago, there was way more interceptions.
Speaker 1: Is that?
Speaker 3: I think it's probably the prevalence of short passing games.
Speaker 3: You know, quick hitters. You're not putting the ball into
Speaker 3: arms way as much. Right, that would be the number one.
Speaker 3: And maybe rules that just continue to evolve that favor
Speaker 3: the offense. I don't know, but it's true.
Speaker 2: Cornerbacks getting better, faster, quicker, longer.
Speaker 3: How would that help?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: In quarterbacks that would mean more interceptions anyway, we haven't
Speaker 3: had one since Week six. Uh so that would be
Speaker 3: a nice thing to get a couple of. Right, did
Speaker 3: you see the trying to think of who did you
Speaker 3: see the end of the h or hear about the
Speaker 3: end of the Rutgers Illinois game.
Speaker 2: I was on the bus and I was told about it,
Speaker 2: And when I got to my room, oh yeah, I
Speaker 2: told you, Yes, you told me. And when I got
Speaker 2: to the bus or got to my hotel room, I
Speaker 2: googled it to watch the end of it, and it
Speaker 2: just warmed my heart, just warmed in my art. That's
Speaker 2: that's a coach out thinking himself.
Speaker 3: Long time listeners will know why we UH got a
Speaker 3: little joy out of the way. The Rutgers came in,
Speaker 3: which was Rutgers was winning by one, and in the
Speaker 3: Illinois lined up with just a few seconds left to
Speaker 3: try a fifty eight yard field goal. UH and their
Speaker 3: Rutgers coach, who were not naming at the moment, iced them.
Speaker 3: But it was one of those last second ices so
Speaker 3: that the still got off, but it was it didn't
Speaker 3: count and it was like fifteen yards short and off target,
Speaker 3: and so Elino's like, well, we're not gonna make that.
Speaker 3: So instead of kicking again, they sent the offense back
Speaker 3: out and they ended up getting a touchdown like a
Speaker 3: fifty yard what would have been, yeah, fifty like a
Speaker 3: forty yard forty something yard touchdown, Yeah, to win the game.
Speaker 2: That's why you don't give extra chances to an extra play.
Speaker 3: I'm actually not in favor of icing kickers on long
Speaker 3: kicks because to me, it'd be much worse. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: feel a lot worse if I ice him and he
Speaker 3: gets it off and misses and then makes the next one,
Speaker 3: then I'm I'll feel worse about that than if I
Speaker 3: don't ice him and he makes it. Your sound's gone,
Speaker 3: Your sound's gone. You turned you off?
Speaker 2: Oh no, oh did I hit the wrong but well,
Speaker 2: I wanted to take a sip of something and then
Speaker 2: I started talking.
Speaker 3: And you don't have a cough button.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how dumb is that?
Speaker 3: All right? You turn? Then you just turn me?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: Hold on, you're drunk with power there at the board.
Speaker 2: There you go. I'm hitting the buttons too quickly.
Speaker 3: I haven't.
Speaker 2: I was going to.
Speaker 3: I haven't like drummed on the table at once.
Speaker 2: No, you haven't. You're doing well, but there's still time.
Speaker 2: It was very windy, got at the stadium and we
Speaker 2: did miss an extra point. And those are the type
Speaker 2: of things that I always get nervous about because I
Speaker 2: always think you miss them. You know, you leave a point,
Speaker 2: it's going to come back.
Speaker 3: I mean only the second one he's missed, right, But
Speaker 3: I will.
Speaker 2: Say that he was practicing in the pregame and you
Speaker 2: could see the ball getting caught up in the wind
Speaker 2: and really, yeah, sliding over.
Speaker 3: So I knew it was windy in the bowl before
Speaker 3: the game went. When I saw before the game, before
Speaker 3: the fans even came in, some someone from above us
Speaker 3: dropped a couple of pieces of paper for something because
Speaker 3: they were suddenly flare and those things flowing forever.
Speaker 2: See if you had a paper airplane and wonder, hell, yeah, you.
Speaker 3: Could get it to the other side of the stadium. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I watched them the entire way and it was like,
Speaker 3: I can't believe those things are still up there, and
Speaker 3: they were just flipping over and flipping over.
Speaker 2: And pretty crazy. It's pretty usually it's hot Dog.
Speaker 3: Rappers that but the fans weren't in yet.
Speaker 2: No, all right, Jack pretty much that think we're good.
Speaker 3: It's going to get to some fan questions. Uh so
Speaker 3: are we going to I guess we could talk about
Speaker 3: Carolina fir.
Speaker 2: Well, well, hold on a second. Are we going to
Speaker 2: try to get a player because it's a short week.
Speaker 3: It's not a short week, okay, short.
Speaker 2: Week because everything's a getting pushed up because of thanks.
Speaker 2: Oh I forgot about that, so I didn't know whether
Speaker 2: you know. So it's that's one of those.
Speaker 3: Well, let's play it by year tomorrow. Okay, we may
Speaker 3: have a guest you know by now if you're listening
Speaker 3: if we did or not. Yeah, because there's no media
Speaker 3: on Thursday, so there's gonna be a whole lot of
Speaker 3: stuff we're doing tomorrow. Yeah, we're doing both coordinators.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, this quarterback the first first things at ten am. Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: they changed.
Speaker 3: Oh they did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe they did. I thought they did.
Speaker 3: I won't be at that. We're our usual Thursday Buccaneers
Speaker 3: inside her. No, no, oh you are at ten. So
Speaker 3: well see there you go. That's so can't do it
Speaker 3: all too watch video later. All our press conferences are
Speaker 3: put up on buccaneers dot com.
Speaker 2: Uh huh, so so that always catch up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Carolina, real quick.
Speaker 2: Oh you were right? Ten twenty ten, ten forty is
Speaker 2: practice twelve to fifteen's coach Baker.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, say that, hold on and casey.
Speaker 3: So that's what I said. We got a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2: I think that's all going to be during the locker room.
Speaker 3: So we'll see. All right, we'll see. I got a
Speaker 3: guy in mind.
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll see.
Speaker 3: Uh either way we were. We will get to some
Speaker 3: fan questions here in a minute, Carolina, Carolina, they're coming off.
Speaker 3: They had won two games before the buye. I mean
Speaker 3: they were close games against the Giants and the Saints.
Speaker 3: So you don't want to get over excited about that,
Speaker 3: but they're playing better.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 3: Bryce Young, as you know, got benched after the first
Speaker 3: two games for Andy Dalton. Andy Dalton started five games
Speaker 3: but then sprained his the thumb on his throwing hand
Speaker 3: in a car accident, so Bryce Young got to come
Speaker 3: back in and now he started four games in a row,
Speaker 3: and it's probably the best stretch of his young career
Speaker 3: so far. He's been getting better each week. This past week,
Speaker 3: against Kansas City, he went toe to toe with Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 3: He led a game tying drive in the last two
Speaker 3: minutes before Mahomes pulled off some magic again. He had
Speaker 3: his best passer rating he's ever had in that game,
Speaker 3: and probably most notably from what I read because I
Speaker 3: haven't really seen many of the highlights. Bryce Young obviously
Speaker 3: is a big time outlier for a highly drifted quarterback
Speaker 3: in terms of his size, like five to ten right
Speaker 3: right and not that thick like Russell Wilson, Kyler Murray
Speaker 3: are short, but they're also kind of thick and for
Speaker 3: for shorter quarterbacks unless you're Drew Brees, the hardest part
Speaker 3: of the game for you is throwing down the middle
Speaker 3: of the field because so many big guys that you
Speaker 3: have to see over, so you tend to work the perimeters.
Speaker 3: Apparently in the last couple of games he's been having
Speaker 3: a lot more success working in the intermediate part of
Speaker 3: the middle of the field. Yep. And he's also done
Speaker 3: a good job, which he did in Alabama. That's what
Speaker 3: you played for, right, Alabama, he did. He was always
Speaker 3: well known for extending plays and creating and making plays
Speaker 3: on the run. Right, he started to do that now
Speaker 3: in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Well, what kind of they What got them in that
Speaker 2: particular game is they got in the red zone I
Speaker 2: think like three times and had to kick field goals.
Speaker 3: That's bad.
Speaker 2: And that's where at least one time, that's where it.
Speaker 3: Gets you because that's yeah, that's you know, four points.
Speaker 2: And this is the kind of game that scares me
Speaker 2: because I'm looking at the sheet and the comparisons and
Speaker 2: total offense were ranked seventh, they're ranked thirty first.
Speaker 3: And thirty second, wait, ninth in points scored.
Speaker 2: Right, and so you start running down you know, point scored,
Speaker 2: like you said fourth, their twenty ninth points allowed, their
Speaker 2: thirty second we're twenty fourth sacks. As you mentioned, they're
Speaker 2: thirty first with seventeen, we're tied for ninth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know with thirty two their sacks, their last
Speaker 3: and first downs, their thirtieth in interception. Yes, so the
Speaker 3: septuate their thirty first and passing yards per game.
Speaker 2: So the tail of the tape makes you think, wow,
Speaker 2: this should be good. But this game scares me. This
Speaker 2: game is part what.
Speaker 3: We remember that one just a couple of years ago
Speaker 3: where we were supposed to kill them and they just
Speaker 3: destroyed us right in Charlotte.
Speaker 2: And I think that's the theme this week is you
Speaker 2: can't take anybody lightly in the NFL, and so and
Speaker 2: there's a lot, you know, for them, there's a lot
Speaker 2: on the line because they're not only you know, they're
Speaker 2: still kind of in the mix. But the fact of
Speaker 2: the matter is if they can start, they're trying to build.
Speaker 2: I went on their website and watched a couple of
Speaker 2: their videos. Their their broadcast team does that afterwards, Jake Mahomes, No,
Speaker 2: what was what was the Dolom? What was his name? Dolome?
Speaker 2: Jake Dolom? And then.
Speaker 3: Who was Jake Diloan had our number for a while,
Speaker 3: Yes he did, Yes he did.
Speaker 2: So they're just talking about a great building block going on.
Speaker 2: So I think this is a game, Luke, Luke, it
Speaker 2: was Luke very good, very good, because.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, okay, the Panthers traded Brian Burns during
Speaker 3: the offseason, their best edge rusher and then their probably
Speaker 3: best remaining defensive player was Derek Brown, a very impactful
Speaker 3: interior lemon and he got hurt is out for the season. Uh.
Speaker 3: One of the top linebacker, Shack Thompson, got hurt and
Speaker 3: is on I R. I don't know if it's season
Speaker 3: ending or not. You know, so you wouldn't expect them
Speaker 3: and they don't to have good defensive numbers, but they've
Speaker 3: been better of late. And you know, I still have
Speaker 3: some good player like j C. Horn is good. He's
Speaker 3: his whole career has been can't he stay healthy? But
Speaker 3: when he's been on the field, he's been pretty good. Right,
Speaker 3: that's a quarterback. And Josie Jewel Lambecker is decent. A'shawn
Speaker 3: Robinson defensive tackles pretty good. They've got some good players,
Speaker 3: you know, so you can never take anybody lightly.
Speaker 2: Right. Well. The thing, too, is which you talk about
Speaker 2: a chess match is Todd Bowles defense should know about
Speaker 2: Dave Dave Dave Canalis's offense, and Dave Canalis should know
Speaker 2: about Todd Bowles defense since they practice against each other
Speaker 2: for a year, Right.
Speaker 3: So I do think Todd constantly evolves his defense though.
Speaker 2: Okay, then so so you say, uh, edge Todd.
Speaker 3: A little bit? Okay, I don't think there's a lot
Speaker 3: to that.
Speaker 2: Quarterback edge sucks. Okay.
Speaker 3: They're running back Chuba Hubbard is having a great season.
Speaker 3: Their corner, their rookie wide receiver Zavier Lagette has really
Speaker 3: been coming on lately and is a delight to listen
Speaker 3: to in postgame pro He's just he has the thickest
Speaker 3: Southern Caro Carolina southern A listen google like him saying
Speaker 3: the word asparagus.
Speaker 2: Uh huh, It's just hilarious.
Speaker 3: Why would he be, because he was he was talking
Speaker 3: about how he had a very limited diet and he
Speaker 3: hardly ever ate any vegetables, and he says, he said
Speaker 3: something like, I just tried asparagus for the first time
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago. But the way he says
Speaker 3: asparagus is hilarious. And then when they were in Germany
Speaker 3: they had him trying foods.
Speaker 2: Okay, it makes sense I like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's he's pretty good. I think they just
Speaker 3: got atheling back from injury.
Speaker 2: I think their tight end got hurt during the game.
Speaker 3: He did Shoadtavian Saunders maybe something like.
Speaker 2: That, Yeah, rookie mm hm so uh. And it's a
Speaker 2: four o'clock game.
Speaker 3: Their officers line their sack percentage is pretty good. Actually
Speaker 3: that was secks allowed. Yeah, yeah, it's it's we're not
Speaker 3: happy that it's a four o'clock game.
Speaker 2: Everybody's surprised.
Speaker 3: I was, why is it a fourklo game?
Speaker 1: Do you know?
Speaker 2: That's just what they put it out as it before
Speaker 2: the season started. Now you look at it and go why,
Speaker 2: And it's there's three games going on. There's two four
Speaker 2: o'clocks in a four and the four the national game.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that's the way it always is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to be on in.
Speaker 3: Charlotte, Charlotte and Tampa Tampa.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe New Orleans maybe, Yeah, the Florida markets and
Speaker 2: you know, maybe, but not all of Florida because you know,
Speaker 2: the national Game, it's a battle.
Speaker 3: It's a good weekend for football in Florida.
Speaker 2: It was a good weekend.
Speaker 3: Yes, the Lers beat Ole Miss Yes, or yeah, a lot.
Speaker 2: Of Gator, a lot of Gator graduates in this building.
Speaker 3: They were. Miami won pretty easily, Bucks won pretty easily.
Speaker 3: FSHU one, Miami Hurricanes one, and the Jacksonville Jaguars didn't play.
Speaker 3: So it was like perfect results for everybody. Every everybody
Speaker 3: was everybody, everybody's fan base is happy.
Speaker 2: That's so wrong.
Speaker 3: So anyway, let's get to some fan question. We well,
Speaker 3: let's go ahead and break here just in case we
Speaker 3: do get a guestmorrow.
Speaker 1: The Salty Dogs, and we're.
Speaker 3: Back here on the Salty Dogs Podcast. I'm Scott and
Speaker 3: I'm still Jeff, and this is our favorite part at
Speaker 3: the show each week when we have our special guests
Speaker 3: with us, and today that's tackled justin school, justin thanks
Speaker 3: for your time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, thank you guys for having me.
Speaker 3: The number one thing I wanted to ask is, like,
Speaker 3: I remember when Tristan was making the switch from right
Speaker 3: tackle the left tackle, and everybody talked about what a
Speaker 3: tough transition that is. If you're a swing tackle in
Speaker 3: the NFL, you have to be ready to play both
Speaker 3: at any time. How hard is that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's definitely more challenging than I think
Speaker 1: the average fan realizes for difference between Trista and I.
Speaker 1: Tristan had a lot of reps, yeah, right, whereas I've
Speaker 1: for most of my career have gone back and forth.
Speaker 1: So it's different in that aspect where he wasn't where
Speaker 1: he was so ingrained in one side moving. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's definitely being able to be ready for both sides.
Speaker 1: I do think it has an advantage though, in the
Speaker 1: sense of knowing the playbook and that sort of thing,
Speaker 1: being able to know both sides and kind of if
Speaker 1: there's certain things just one way, but being able to
Speaker 1: kind of adapt by knowing both sides.
Speaker 3: Is there either side you would say you feel more
Speaker 3: comfortable on guys.
Speaker 1: No, I mean maybe the left side a little bit,
Speaker 1: but that's just because that's where I had to play
Speaker 1: early in my career. Introaser, Yeah, I had to play
Speaker 1: there early in my career. But getting the reps at
Speaker 1: right tackle for the four games this year was great, excellent.
Speaker 2: Jason Light during the pregame show mentioned that he thought
Speaker 2: good things were gonna come out of you in that game,
Speaker 2: and it did. Were you surprised how well it went
Speaker 2: for you against the Giants? Yeah? And the whole line
Speaker 2: for that matter.
Speaker 1: I don't know if i'd say surprise is the right word.
Speaker 1: I guess more so just happy, yeah, in the sense
Speaker 1: of like the work you put in all through the
Speaker 1: year and the details you do even week in and
Speaker 1: week out, to see stuff come to fruition and stuff
Speaker 1: you know you've been working on for a while actually
Speaker 1: start to work and you kind of manifested. And then
Speaker 1: as a group as a whole, I wouldn't say I
Speaker 1: was surprised at all. I mean, these as a group,
Speaker 1: we've been working our tails off this year, and so
Speaker 1: it was good to see like the full unit I
Speaker 1: guess come together ran the ball protected, Baker, receivers I
Speaker 1: mean receivers getting open, Baker getting the ball out quick.
Speaker 1: The play calling was great. So I wouldn't say it's surprised,
Speaker 1: but more so just happy to see all the work
Speaker 1: that we've put in really coming up.
Speaker 2: At any point in that first drive when you got
Speaker 2: to a round eight minutes or so, are you at
Speaker 2: some point were you saying like, can we just no?
Speaker 1: It's actually awesome when you go on those long drives,
Speaker 1: because you know they're probably more tired than you are,
Speaker 1: so you're like let's just keep them out here. And
Speaker 1: I know the defense hadn't even gone out on the
Speaker 1: field yet, but I know they were probably chomping at
Speaker 1: the bit. But normally, when you're out there on those
Speaker 1: long drives, you're loving it. You're helping our defense out
Speaker 1: and you know those guys are getting tired on the
Speaker 1: other side.
Speaker 3: Ben Retison was just in there just a couple of
Speaker 3: minutes ago saying that one of the reasons that they
Speaker 3: feel so comfortable with you being in the starting lineup
Speaker 3: is all the time, all the reps you guys have
Speaker 3: taken together through the off season, training camp, and just
Speaker 3: all the time you spin together on and off the field.
Speaker 3: Is there something too that I don't know, what do
Speaker 3: you call a camaradery or that that is important to
Speaker 3: your guys job?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think so. I think especially here, but in a
Speaker 1: lot of places, the line is normally like the closest
Speaker 1: position group, but especially here in this year, this is
Speaker 1: a special o line room. I mean, we're pretty young,
Speaker 1: so it's got somewhat of a college a line room
Speaker 1: kind of feel to it. But we're older, we're a
Speaker 1: little more mature. You know, some guys have kids, like
Speaker 1: some guys are married, but it's still all around that
Speaker 1: same age frames. And we do a lot off the
Speaker 1: field together, whether it's weekly, but we all went to
Speaker 1: like the Morgan Mall and concert together with Baker and
Speaker 1: Kyle Track, Like, there's a lot of things we try
Speaker 1: and do together, and so that's where you get that
Speaker 1: college feel of like we're always around each other, but
Speaker 1: it's fun. And I do think that plays a factor because,
Speaker 1: I mean, you care more for the guys out there.
Speaker 3: Were you had all worried that Vava might run into
Speaker 3: the back of you when he was playing full back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's definitely a thought that goes to your ahead,
Speaker 1: So you've got to try and get out of the
Speaker 1: way if you're you're up there.
Speaker 2: Is is Baker an o lineman and a small man's body.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think there's any doubt about it. He's
Speaker 1: more he's just more athletic and not quite as big
Speaker 1: as the rest of us, so he gets to play
Speaker 1: the cool position. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was always told that old linemen are big, big
Speaker 2: guys and little kids bodies. Is that pretty accurate? Big
Speaker 2: big bodies in little kid's mindset? Is that what I
Speaker 2: should have said?
Speaker 1: I know, what.
Speaker 3: I don't know what it means.
Speaker 2: Because you're always grooping around.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and we got we got to keep it
Speaker 1: light hearted. I mean, it's a group of guys like so.
Speaker 1: And that's what's another thing about this room is like
Speaker 1: everyone likes poking fun, even from the coaching staff to
Speaker 1: the guy. Everyone in the room lighthearted, making good jokes
Speaker 1: on each other all the time, that sort of thing.
Speaker 2: See, that's a group.
Speaker 3: Saying on Monday that it's that Vita Vea. Did you
Speaker 3: see the play I assume he did where he just
Speaker 3: destroyed the center and got a sick He says, he's
Speaker 3: in the huddle just joking around. He's not even pissed off.
Speaker 3: He's like, I hate to see what that guy would
Speaker 3: do if he was pissed off.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we always talk about that. Once training camp ends,
Speaker 1: we're like, all right, thank goodness, that's over.
Speaker 3: Okay, So yesterday was Turkey time with the old line.
Speaker 3: I assume you took part in that. It's been going
Speaker 3: on for like eighteen years, and I think this year,
Speaker 3: didn't they say they helped a thousand Yeah, they're up
Speaker 3: to fourteen thousand meals over the whole, the whole How
Speaker 3: much do you enjoy that event?
Speaker 1: Oh, it's awesome. It's awesome being able to come together
Speaker 1: as a group to help raise money for that and
Speaker 1: then get out there and see the fans come by
Speaker 1: and the people that were making a huge impact on
Speaker 1: and we're Rob Haynesy and I were talking about it yesterday.
Speaker 1: It's cool to think how many people are able to
Speaker 1: enjoy a good Thanksgiving meal because of our donations and
Speaker 1: the Glaciers as well. The Glaziers donating as well, So
Speaker 1: it's really cool. I think that's one of the things
Speaker 1: that I was most surprised with but most happy with
Speaker 1: coming to the Box is realizing how giving the O
Speaker 1: line is as a group, from the Turkey Time to
Speaker 1: we do the line lights up Christmas at Target and
Speaker 1: that one's awesome to see kids' faces when they're getting
Speaker 1: to pull stuff off the shelves and they're like anything, yeah,
Speaker 1: And so between Turkey Time and that, it's it's cool
Speaker 1: and so yeah, I think it's really special, and even
Speaker 1: I think it's good for the young guys too when
Speaker 1: you do stuff like that, to see the kind of
Speaker 1: impact they can have on people.
Speaker 3: Well, Davin, Joseph and Jeremy True Blood Stars starting way
Speaker 3: back in like two thousand and seven. And I'm sure
Speaker 3: they're very, very proud that you guys keep doing it
Speaker 3: through generators.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys go in.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You any more football questions?
Speaker 1: Well I do.
Speaker 2: I have some some stuff. Five things I want to
Speaker 2: know perfect ready, Dad, These are about you.
Speaker 3: This is a rapid fire.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sort of, but not really because I didn't know
Speaker 2: this going to happen for a good talker. Your dad
Speaker 2: worked for the FBI.
Speaker 1: He did, yes, twenty one years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dang now retired.
Speaker 3: Could you talk about his job when he came home.
Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, for the most part. There were times where
Speaker 1: it was like a guy or there was some stuff
Speaker 1: for it that was vague, but normally after the fact
Speaker 1: he could talk about it quite Yeah.
Speaker 2: So you thought your dad was kind of like James Bond.
Speaker 3: No, I never did.
Speaker 1: I never did to me. It was just that's what
Speaker 1: he did to all my friends growing up. They thought
Speaker 1: he was like Jason Bourne, like we had seager compartments
Speaker 1: in our cars.
Speaker 2: That's like generation, I said, James.
Speaker 1: B And so all my friends growing up thought that.
Speaker 1: But for my siblings and I was just kind of like,
Speaker 1: he's just he goes to working sits at the desk.
Speaker 3: Cool.
Speaker 2: Your first sport ice hockey.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I learned to skate. We lived outside of
Speaker 1: Chicago when I was young. When I when we were
Speaker 1: first there was Naperville and then we moved and it
Speaker 1: was Aurora.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 2: I grew up in Arlington Heights.
Speaker 3: Okay, I went and I went to Northwestern.
Speaker 2: That's why we're bonding.
Speaker 1: So yeah. Yeah, So I learned to skate when I
Speaker 1: was three and then started playing traveler competitive when I
Speaker 1: was five, and then stopped when I got to high
Speaker 1: school because of football.
Speaker 2: Really good choice.
Speaker 1: I had to make the choice football long run. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, as you look at it now, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Your favorite food now you're in Tampa, you should be
Speaker 2: doing really well with this sushi.
Speaker 1: Yes, and you know your stuff.
Speaker 3: Tampa's known for sushi.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tampa Scot's Fresh Suah food. Yeah, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1: We just actually went. Uh my birthday was on Saturday,
Speaker 1: so we just actually went to Sunda. That's one of
Speaker 1: our favorite spots. Went to Sunday to talk my wife
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 2: She loves me.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, good Asian fusion so right there in midtown.
Speaker 2: All right, one more. Your favorite movie is it's still
Speaker 2: Lone Survivor.
Speaker 3: I've never even heard of that.
Speaker 1: You never heard of Loan Survivor Marcus Latrell. Great movie.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I could think of one off
Speaker 1: the top of my head to beat it. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess we'll stick with it.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, very good. So you're a state consistent in
Speaker 2: your five things.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that.
Speaker 3: I think you only asked four.
Speaker 2: No, I asked five, Dad, Oh, one more. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: I knew it. I can count your Your favorite off
Speaker 2: site away from football sport is golf. Scott loves golf.
Speaker 3: No, I do not. I'm glad you enjoy it. Yees.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a frustrating but fun hockey and it takes
Speaker 1: one good hit and it rerails you right back here.
Speaker 2: So where you are now, I mean handicap lies.
Speaker 1: Oh, I know we're not even so I was happy
Speaker 1: when we It always happens this year. There's something I
Speaker 1: figure out with my golf game where I feel confident
Speaker 1: with it, and then we go to training camp. Yes,
Speaker 1: so this summer till I was confident, I'm off the
Speaker 1: t box some reason. I was like, I can keep
Speaker 1: it on the fairway and now, I'm sure when the
Speaker 1: season ends and I go back out there, it's just
Speaker 1: gonna be.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And there's always a round of golf that you
Speaker 2: just suck so bad and you're thinking, why am I bothering?
Speaker 1: Every round from no until like the seventeenth, eighteen seven
Speaker 1: you make a shot. I figured it out. It's the golf.
Speaker 2: God's amazing that it always and if you unless you
Speaker 2: can play, you don't understand. One shot can make you feel.
Speaker 1: So absolutely, especially when you're out there with your buddies
Speaker 1: and they're like, that's a good shot. You'll start feeling
Speaker 1: good about yourself.
Speaker 2: Usually I get who's ever in your body? Let them
Speaker 2: out because that's not you.
Speaker 3: So well, thank you justin. We appreciate your time. We
Speaker 3: meant too, sorry about that. I didn't know you're going
Speaker 3: to do is rapid fire around there. Appreciate your time.
Speaker 1: You had a good time. Yeah, no, thank you guys,
Speaker 1: thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 2: The Salty Dogs.
Speaker 3: Right, Welcome back everybody to the uh Salty Dogs Podcast.
Speaker 3: I'm Scott, I'm Jeff, and we're gonna get to your questions.
Speaker 3: But while we were taking this break, the NFL sent
Speaker 3: I noticed the NFL sent out for the first time
Speaker 3: this year. It's playoff clinching scenario.
Speaker 2: Oh I did see that early.
Speaker 3: So Buffalo can clinch the AFC's title already if they
Speaker 3: win in Miami loses, and Kansas City can clinch a
Speaker 3: playoff berth with a win and a number of other possibilities.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I always get confused when all their possibility.
Speaker 3: Detroit has a lot of different ways they can clinch
Speaker 3: a playoff berth, but it mostly involves them winning in
Speaker 3: San Francisco and Arizona losing.
Speaker 2: And that's in week twelve.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it though. Wow, that's all they have. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: fan questions.
Speaker 2: There's still six games left.
Speaker 3: Six weeks. Some teams will have five games because there's
Speaker 3: there's no buys this week.
Speaker 2: But there is bye on the fourteenth.
Speaker 3: There's six teams on a bye in week fourteen.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: All right, let me get to wherever.
Speaker 2: We were all right for the week before?
Speaker 3: Could we do?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 3: What was what's the date today?
Speaker 2: It's the Today is the twenty sixth of November.
Speaker 3: So we would have been on eleven nineteen, correct, And
Speaker 3: this one came in eleven nineteen in the morning. So
Speaker 3: I think we've done that.
Speaker 2: You don't delete.
Speaker 3: No, no, okay, this okay, So this is I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna read. Okay. We were talking about why the podcast
Speaker 3: had not been showing up on Apple Podcasts in recent weeks,
Speaker 3: and we thought it had been resolved. You said apparently
Speaker 3: said something about refreshing or something. So Michael and Connecticut,
Speaker 3: who's told us about this issue before, says Hey, Scott,
Speaker 3: happy Friday again, No need to read. But tell Jeff
Speaker 3: I'm fully capable for refreshing and screen so I know
Speaker 3: it's not me. I've added picks for proof, which he did,
Speaker 3: and the latest episode was November sixth, Salty Oh no,
Speaker 3: he told me not to read it on the air. Well,
Speaker 3: too bad. Well, I'm just saying he wasn't trying to
Speaker 3: be mean. I'm listening on the Bucks app. It's still
Speaker 3: nothing in Apple podcasts. All the other ones I follow update,
Speaker 3: but Salty Dogs parentheses, which is the most important thank you, doesn't.
Speaker 3: I've even unfouled and then readded. Tell Jeff, I swear
Speaker 3: I'm not crazy. Have a good weekend. I'm cooking chicken
Speaker 3: cutless this Sunday. But this screen grabs show the latest
Speaker 3: episode being November sixth.
Speaker 2: I probably should have been more specific. If you try
Speaker 2: to do it on the Bucks app and it doesn't work,
Speaker 2: then that's what you But yeah, we there there seems
Speaker 2: to be issues with the streaming, not only this but
Speaker 2: on some of my games. And I'm and every time
Speaker 2: I talk to those who are supposed to know all
Speaker 2: this stuff, I get answers that I don't unders. You know,
Speaker 2: it's like always something reason why. But we need to
Speaker 2: get this resolve.
Speaker 3: We really do.
Speaker 2: And that and the good news is, and I am
Speaker 2: going to be salty about this. I am going to
Speaker 2: be involved in a meeting and so are you next
Speaker 2: week talking about stuff like this, and I'm going to
Speaker 2: bring it up. You invite me to a meeting I did,
Speaker 2: and someone else did. I saw your name.
Speaker 3: You know how I feel about meeting.
Speaker 2: I understand that and I do too. But then this
Speaker 2: one I'm going because this talks.
Speaker 3: About Okay, I know we don't have to get into yes,
Speaker 3: all right. This is from Jerry Owens from Maryland. Greetings,
Speaker 3: salty fellows. Just wanted to write in and talk about
Speaker 3: yesterday's game. This is a cool email. By the way,
Speaker 3: I drove up to New York over the weekend to
Speaker 3: take my oldest son, Isaiah to his first Buccaneers game.
Speaker 3: That's cool.
Speaker 2: Nice school. So he drove up.
Speaker 3: Well he's from Maryland.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's still a few outs.
Speaker 3: I don't know far.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know what two hours to Philadelphia. I
Speaker 2: bet you it's almost four hours, three and a half.
Speaker 3: Well, I would drive that way to see my to
Speaker 3: take my son those first Bucks game.
Speaker 2: Well, there's that. Okay.
Speaker 3: This was to celebrate his thirteenth birthday. So from us, Isaiah,
Speaker 3: Happy birthday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little lady.
Speaker 3: Now, I gotta tell you, Jerry, it goes fast, man,
Speaker 3: it goes fast. Mine's graduating from college this year.
Speaker 2: I can't believe that when you say that.
Speaker 3: Uh. We got to the stadium early so he could
Speaker 3: take in the sights and watch the players during pregame
Speaker 3: warm ups. Our seats were in the end zone where
Speaker 3: the Bucks were warming up. He was amazed to see
Speaker 3: how large the life are in person. You're off again, Jeff,
Speaker 3: You keep turning yourself off.
Speaker 2: No I'm not, Oh, I guess I am.
Speaker 3: You know what it is an old age. It you
Speaker 3: would think have you been drinking all day?
Speaker 2: No? If you think that it's the bright light means
Speaker 2: it's off and it just never.
Speaker 3: Don't go into the light.
Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: He was amazed to see how large the linemen are
Speaker 3: in person. It seems to me over the years that
Speaker 3: Buck fans travel a lot better these days.
Speaker 2: Wow. Well yeah, I don't know why.
Speaker 3: But this looked like it was a pretty easy win
Speaker 3: for us. The Giants didn't put it much of put
Speaker 3: up much of a fight on offense or defense. We
Speaker 3: just sailed up there, rained down cannon fire, and got
Speaker 3: out of there with the w Is that what it
Speaker 3: looks like when an NFL team outclasses their opponent your
Speaker 3: local crew member since ninety six Jerry from Maryland.
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, I don't know. I would take it back
Speaker 2: and say not out class.
Speaker 3: I don't thinking that in terms of who's more classy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like boxing, you know. Oh, there's different classes of opponent.
Speaker 2: We did, we did show them a lesson or two.
Speaker 3: Well, it was what it was what we started this
Speaker 3: whole podcast about today. Were you saying we took care
Speaker 3: of business? I'm so we didn't just take care of business.
Speaker 3: All of our strengths were shown. We're well, yeah, executed right,
Speaker 3: everything that we could do well we did. We pretty
Speaker 3: much did. And they're a scuffling team that had lost
Speaker 3: five in a row coming in and was changing quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And then all their controversy of cutting a
Speaker 2: first round quarterback after signing him to a big contract
Speaker 2: a year ago or two years they were going to.
Speaker 3: Cut him in the off season anyway, But still I
Speaker 3: think they were being nice to him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, no. But I'm saying, is where do
Speaker 2: you think.
Speaker 3: You should sign Daniel Jones?
Speaker 2: I think he should go to a team that needs
Speaker 2: a quarterback right now, Yeah, and just finish it out
Speaker 2: because they get there your best at this do they?
Speaker 2: If he signs, does he redegotiate is deal.
Speaker 3: Once he clears waivers, which should have been today.
Speaker 2: But that goes into future years if he signs with you.
Speaker 3: If you if you claim a guy off waivers, you're
Speaker 3: also getting his contract. If you let him clear he's
Speaker 3: a free agent. His previous team may still have financial
Speaker 3: commitments to him, which is the case here, but if
Speaker 3: you sign him, you're signing him to a completely different contract.
Speaker 3: And in this case, which is the case with most contracts,
Speaker 3: there's offset language. So I'm just gonna use made up
Speaker 3: numbers if the if the Giants sold him ten million
Speaker 3: more dollars for the rest of the year and he
Speaker 3: signs with somebody else for one million, now the Giants
Speaker 3: only have to pay him nine nine million, so he
Speaker 3: can't make any more money unless somebody signs him to
Speaker 3: a Giant contract, which is not gonna happen. Yeah, So
Speaker 3: presumably whoever he signs with, he'll sign for the minimum,
Speaker 3: because what's the point make the Giants key pay not
Speaker 3: his new team.
Speaker 2: I think it would have to be someone that needs
Speaker 2: help or someone that feels like they can really work
Speaker 2: with him.
Speaker 3: Is that what you would do if you were Daniel Jones?
Speaker 3: Would you go to a team you might start right away,
Speaker 3: like maybe the Raiders?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Or I mean because then you're gonna play six more
Speaker 3: games and then it's gonna be over and or do.
Speaker 2: You hold out on a team that is trying to
Speaker 2: make a run and needs I would go to.
Speaker 3: A team trying to make a run that had a
Speaker 3: starter and felt like me Daniel Jones was a better
Speaker 3: number two than what they had. And the team that
Speaker 3: I would I think would be make a lot of
Speaker 3: sense as a Detroit.
Speaker 2: Lions whine because they need help and then back up.
Speaker 3: Well, I think he's better than the hindon hooker who
Speaker 3: is there? And any of those teams you go to,
Speaker 3: you're only playing if the guy gets hurt. But it's
Speaker 3: great insurance for whatever team he signs with. Whereas if
Speaker 3: he goes to a team where he might start the
Speaker 3: rest of way, like the Raiders, I mean, what does
Speaker 3: that really get you by the end of the year.
Speaker 3: You could just sit up the rest of the season
Speaker 3: if you wanted to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's kind of hard to if if teams
Speaker 2: in disarray's kind of hard to show your talents.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like who's the backup for the Houston text I
Speaker 3: don't know, but if he's not that great?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're struggling right now, they're on the losing streak.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've been scuffling all right. Moving on Daniel Daniel
Speaker 3: from Da Mario from Palm Harbor. OHI salted dogs. So
Speaker 3: glad we want it's been so long. One win down,
Speaker 3: hopefully many more wins ahead. Now onto the Panthers. It's
Speaker 3: great to have Mike Evans back. The offense looks a
Speaker 3: lot better when he's on the field in the huddle.
Speaker 3: It's also great to have Mike Edwards back to help
Speaker 3: the defense. Since it's Thanksgiving this week, I wanted to
Speaker 3: say I'm thankful for you guys. Well, thanks, dam We're
Speaker 3: thankful for you too. You're my favorite Bucks podcast of
Speaker 3: all time. It's the highlight of my week during Bucks season.
Speaker 3: My question is what's your favorite pie for? Obviously because
Speaker 3: of Thanksgiving? For me, it's pumpkin pie. I hope you
Speaker 3: guys have a great Thanksgiving from your biggest from your
Speaker 3: biggest fan in Pom rmor Florida, Daniel D Mario go Bucks.
Speaker 3: Ps still wants some Salty Dogs merchandise. I don't care
Speaker 3: if it costs me an arm in La. Well, it
Speaker 3: probably will be cheap, wouldn't it.
Speaker 2: What is your favorite?
Speaker 3: Does it have to be a traditional?
Speaker 2: No? Getting just asked what was your favorite pie?
Speaker 3: My favorite pie is French silk pie from village in Okay?
Speaker 3: Have you ever had it?
Speaker 2: Yes, it's awesome.
Speaker 3: I do like pumpkin pie, but I have to have
Speaker 3: a ton of whip cream. Yeah, I mean the whooped
Speaker 3: cream to pumpkin pie ratio has to at least be
Speaker 3: one to one. Yeah, what about you?
Speaker 2: I don't eat pie very often.
Speaker 3: It's not the best dessert.
Speaker 2: But I don't eat pie. But when I do, I
Speaker 2: do like pumpkin pie. Okay, but I don't like whip
Speaker 2: cream on it now. I mean I'll get like a little,
Speaker 2: like a little I gotta have a d Everybody, just
Speaker 2: just oh no, no, no, no no. I like nutmeg,
Speaker 2: a little more nutmeg on.
Speaker 3: It, my mom used to. My sister still does occasionally
Speaker 3: make a lemon cheffon pie, which is better than lemon
Speaker 3: meringue pie because the cheffon is it's more of a
Speaker 3: creamy thing meringues. I don't really like ring I don't
Speaker 3: like apple pie at all. It smells phenomenal, the applepint.
Speaker 3: I could probably eat it if there were the apples
Speaker 3: weren't in there, but the texture of the apples.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: But it's got cinnamon too, and the gel or whatever
Speaker 3: it tastes.
Speaker 2: For you just pick the apples out.
Speaker 3: That's not worth it. Uh, definitely don't want any pie
Speaker 3: with coconut in them, and it's gonna all be thrown
Speaker 3: directly into a crevice. What other pies are traditional on Thanksgiving?
Speaker 3: Are there?
Speaker 2: Pecan?
Speaker 3: Pecan? Pecan pie is good? Yeah, Pecan pie is very good.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that as a kid. I found that
Speaker 3: out as an adult, and I feel like I wasted
Speaker 3: time because pecan pie doesn't necessarily look like it would
Speaker 3: taste that great, but it's really good.
Speaker 2: And some people like nutmeg pie.
Speaker 3: Nutmeg pie.
Speaker 2: I think it's a there's no.
Speaker 3: That's a big difference. Mag I don't just a pie
Speaker 3: full and nutmeg nut make pie. Come on, don't be ridiculous,
Speaker 3: all right, all right, there's no way there's something called
Speaker 3: nutmeg pie.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know nutmeg pie.
Speaker 3: Come on, what is it? What is it?
Speaker 2: Not meg maple, maple cream pie.
Speaker 3: But that's just saying there's nutmeg in it. You're acting
Speaker 3: like nutmeg is like apple pie, like it's the main
Speaker 3: ingredient of a pie. It'd be like luster rosemary pie
Speaker 3: or time pie.
Speaker 2: M I guess maybe you're right.
Speaker 3: Salt pie.
Speaker 2: How to make sweet potato people like sweet potato pie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. The only I will say, Giselle, my
Speaker 3: wife makes an I don't like sweet potatoes, but her
Speaker 3: sweet potato cashule is pretty good.
Speaker 2: Nut make pie recipe.
Speaker 3: Not make maple. You're leaving out the word maple and
Speaker 3: the word cream make maple cream.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm just looking for nutmeg pie.
Speaker 3: There isn't a thing that's the point.
Speaker 2: Well, maybe there should be.
Speaker 3: You invent the nutmeg pie and become rich.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's just a spice. All you need is one
Speaker 2: thing that makes just a spice. Right, what you like cinnamon?
Speaker 2: So maybe?
Speaker 3: But I wouldn't eat a cinnamon pie that well.
Speaker 2: Yes you would, because you don't eat apple pie.
Speaker 3: You take the apples out, but it's still it's still
Speaker 3: got that glaze that the cinnamon is in.
Speaker 2: Like I said, I don't eat pie. I'm not a
Speaker 2: big pie all right. I'm not a big dessert person.
Speaker 3: That's I'm not a big cookies guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You ever do the I rank ice cream, cake, pie
Speaker 3: and cookies?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Mine, I go ice cream cake, pie, cookies I like.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: I like a chocolate chip cookie, but it has to
Speaker 2: be hard.
Speaker 3: Oh, you don't like the cookie ones, so you don't
Speaker 3: need You don't need the ones on the plane. Cookies
Speaker 3: don't do much for me. I can pass them up
Speaker 3: every time. Ice Cream is much better.
Speaker 2: Do you think? I know? Right?
Speaker 3: What's your favorite Thanksgiving side dish?
Speaker 1: Mmmmm?
Speaker 2: I really like the stuffing in the bird.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think I've asked you this before. I
Speaker 3: really like the stuff now I called it stuffing because
Speaker 3: it's inside.
Speaker 2: Right, because other way it's correct uses everybody.
Speaker 3: It's still the same thing.
Speaker 2: Though it doesn't taste as good.
Speaker 3: Have you ever read oyster dressing?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: I don't. I have not run across oyster dressing is good.
Speaker 3: I never eat it as a kid because that sounded gross.
Speaker 3: But now I love oysters, yeah, although I don't like
Speaker 3: them cooked.
Speaker 2: As a kid, I never like sweet potatoes, but now
Speaker 2: as an adult, I've learned that I actually like sweet potatoes.
Speaker 2: I mean, how I got it was sweet potato pie
Speaker 2: or sweet sweet potato fries.
Speaker 3: Well. You know what's great about eating stuffing on Thanksgiving,
Speaker 3: as you can eat it again on it is that
Speaker 3: they usually you're usually also probably serving mashed potatoes and gravy.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and you can put the gravy on the stuffing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that works out very nice.
Speaker 2: That's very nice. Now, when you have your mashed potatoes,
Speaker 2: do you just pour the gravy all over? Okay, that's
Speaker 2: just checking.
Speaker 3: That's it's only it's only the smart thing to do.
Speaker 2: Right exactly, because then it doesn't ooze all.
Speaker 3: Over the rice. Well, I mean, although most of the
Speaker 3: things that would be on my Thanksgiving plates, I wouldn't
Speaker 3: mind if the gravy got on it.
Speaker 2: Well, sometimes you have to have gravy to get through
Speaker 2: the meal.
Speaker 3: The white meat especially, well, I like white meat.
Speaker 2: If it's done properly, you don't need anything a little salt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard to do it right.
Speaker 2: Well, yes, I don't cook, so I have no idea.
Speaker 3: All right, one more email, all right from Alexander in Brazil.
Speaker 3: Okay o, hoy salty ones. Hope this finds you both. Well,
Speaker 3: just one word for the game. Yeah, he's emulating the
Speaker 3: Todd Bowles postgame, Yale, I like it? Is it only me?
Speaker 3: Or do you also think Baker is really underappreciated by
Speaker 3: the media. Look, I don't mean I don't think that
Speaker 3: he is having a better season than Lamar or Josh Allen.
Speaker 3: But I hear a lot about how spectacular Joe Burrow
Speaker 3: is and yet no mention on Baker season. He is
Speaker 3: a great fit for us and is really playing his
Speaker 3: best ball. Of course, now I must point out how
Speaker 3: good it is to see Mike Beck and Levante doing
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame things. Now up to Carolina. The most
Speaker 3: important game is always the next one, and we can
Speaker 3: only worry about what we can do. Since you did,
Speaker 3: thanks for reading. Alexander Newsamento from San Paul OLPs. I
Speaker 3: already updated my schedule sheet.
Speaker 2: With last week's results and we won.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so very good. He was right, and you know
Speaker 3: we prompted him to get back on it. He did.
Speaker 3: If he keeps doing it, we should probably run the table.
Speaker 2: He did his job, he did update.
Speaker 3: I think it's pretty clear that Jeff and I are
Speaker 3: both going to say, yes, we think Baker is overall
Speaker 3: unappreciated by the national media.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it's just because they're waiting to say, well,
Speaker 2: you know, he hasn't really done it down.
Speaker 3: They're waiting for him to have a couple of bad
Speaker 3: games so they can go see it's the same old Baker.
Speaker 3: I have complained about one person in particular in the media,
Speaker 3: but and I don't name him because I think he's
Speaker 3: very good. Sure, and I don't mean to be harsh,
Speaker 3: but I find it a little bit off putting when
Speaker 3: somebody who really knows football decides things about certain players
Speaker 3: and just won't ever change their mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that happens a lot.
Speaker 3: I mean, you you decide that, I don't know, Kyler
Speaker 3: Murray is great and no matter if he's doing well
Speaker 3: or if he's doing poorly, you know he's great. Here's
Speaker 3: the factors why not working out? You decide to Baker
Speaker 3: Mayfield is not what you would get should get out
Speaker 3: of the first overall pick, and you're just never going
Speaker 3: to let him back in. Yeah, he's doing fine, but
Speaker 3: look is a dot's low or you know he's he
Speaker 3: had three turnover where he plays in that game, or
Speaker 3: he still gets too antsy with his feed or something.
Speaker 3: Whatever it is, you just you find a way to
Speaker 3: discount what's actually.
Speaker 2: It's not really him, it's Mike Evans.
Speaker 3: What's actually happening?
Speaker 2: Oh that was Johnny Manzil.
Speaker 3: What's actually happening is he's got a passer rating of
Speaker 3: over one hundred five. And I know pass rating isn't
Speaker 3: the perfect statistic, but it does say a lot about
Speaker 3: what he's doing. He's been great, he.
Speaker 2: Has served the Buccaneers well and I hopefully it continues.
Speaker 3: If you just go by results, not what you've previously
Speaker 3: thought about him, not what you think about how he
Speaker 3: plays the game. If you just go by passing results.
Speaker 3: He's a top ten quarterback this season. But I don't
Speaker 3: think any of these analysts will call him a top
Speaker 3: ten quarterback.
Speaker 2: No, no, but his numbers will eventually prove it.
Speaker 3: He's top ten and almost every pass. No, I mean,
Speaker 3: he is right. So at some point you have to
Speaker 3: say a.
Speaker 2: Lot of times too, if your team's not winning, doesn't
Speaker 2: matter how great of a quarterback you are, you're not
Speaker 2: going to get the props. And we were running a
Speaker 2: four game losers to four out of six games.
Speaker 3: But what you could tell it was not his fault.
Speaker 2: No no, But I think if you streak goes, if
Speaker 2: we can get rolling better, things will come up. All right,
Speaker 2: that's it.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 2: Well, hey listen, I will see you. But I'll just
Speaker 2: say to those of you who are listening to the
Speaker 2: Salty Dogs, if you haven't had it yet, happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2: And if you did, I hope it was a good Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3: I hope you get ended up with a good amount
Speaker 3: of left numbers.
Speaker 2: I know, and enjoy your nutmeg pie since you did.
Speaker 2: Thanks for listening.