WEBVTT - How Do You Talk to an Angel? 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:04.640 It's nine O gen one oengine with Jenny Garth and 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:12.559 Tory spelling. Hello everybody, We are back with another nine 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:19.439 O two on OMG recap episode Yeah on baby, you've 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:22.000 waited for us. We appreciate it. But we are here 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:23.680 now and we have so much to talk about. 0:00:25.079 --> 0:00:26.000 We really do. 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:31.800 This is episode season five, Episode five, rave On, aired 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:34.120 October fifth, nineteen ninety four. 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:38.160 Synopsis. Kelly's suspicions about Valerie turn out to be true. 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:40.159 Steve Launch is a club to try to save the 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:43.800 peach prit. Dylan developed sticky fingers. Donna sets her eyes 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:46.200 on Rayproo. If he's here, one ta his mama couldn't 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:49.600 afford too. David is feeling a little jelly, and Jesse 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:50.879 is feeling a little frisky. 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:54.040 Directed by David Semel, written by Larry Mullin. 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:57.680 You got can I just right off of that, I've 0:00:57.720 --> 0:01:01.080 never smoked pot in my life. I have never smoke 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:03.760 pot in my life, So you can take this. They 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:10.360 are acting like she is a crackhead, do you know 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:12.640 what I mean? Like they are the pot. 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:14.679 She was smoking pot. 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:17.760 It was not a thing that people did anywhere legally. 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:21.080 Oh, it's so true. It was a different time, but 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:22.800 like it is. 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:25.679 Nine on two one ol, so we're getting like juicier 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:30.440 but still like, oh keep it's safe, like it's pot. 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:33.280 Kelly says basic Brandon. Valeries a pothead. 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:36.560 It rereaked, It rereaked. 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:39.600 She's so concerned about it. And I was thinking she's 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:42.279 like she's been exposed to a lot of drugs because 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:45.640 of her upbringing with her mom and all the addictions 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:48.720 she's around by, you know, like I didn't think it 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:51.680 felt right for Kelly to be the one that had 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:52.760 a real problem with it. 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:57.280 Well, my flag on the play was, look, I don't, 0:01:57.320 --> 0:01:59.640 like I said, I've never smoked pot in my life. 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:04.080 Valerie's pot problem seems to be really stirring everyone up. 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:12.520 Yet Dylan is a falling down, drunk, drunk mess mess 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:17.680 and valeriees just okay, like oh let's make out, And 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:21.000 I'm like, are you what is happening? If I was what? 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:27.360 Plus I've happened to smell the smoke from a Marriorji 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:31.799 Wanna cigarette, one of them funny cigarettes before, and uh, 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:34.480 you can smell it a mile away totally. It smells 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:37.440 like a ch smell. She's smoking it in her window 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:40.560 and thinking it's not like on her breath, like, of 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:42.080 course people are gonna smell that. 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:44.560 She's like, I would never smoke it in the house, 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:47.400 mind you, she's like in the window. I did laugh 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:50.400 at the incense though, it's so you, Jenny, the incense. 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:57.120 That little pot, a little Genie pot of incense. Insert 0:02:57.240 --> 0:02:58.079 But I don't know. 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:01.919 I'm sorry you guys. Did she the pot whatever? 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:02.080 What? 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:05.160 Sorry, I don't know, but you could tell I don't 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:08.679 smoke pot on the windowsill. Did she put it out there? 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:11.800 Yes, she snubbed it out. She snubved it out on 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:13.000 the side of the wall shouse. 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:21.200 I'm sorry, she say, my mom's incense. She's I'm a boomer. 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:22.120 Wait what boomer? 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:24.440 She called herself a boomer, which is what we call 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:26.520 ourselves because we don't know how to have the computer. 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:29.520 We're not boomers, we're jen x. 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:30.680 What is a boomer? 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:35.960 A boomer is the generation before us, the baby boomers, boomers, 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:37.320 That's what I assumed. She meant. 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:41.760 Oh, I love that movie with Diane Keaton Baby Food amazing. 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:42.760 I've never seen that. 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:46.080 Love it. You would love it so good? 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:49.360 I love I know you have to see that one. 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:50.000 You would love it. 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:55.960 He's right, that's a baby. That's because she's having a baby. 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:59.600 She's not a boomer, yes, but it's still a random 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:02.920 ref Like I don't get it, but I don't know. 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:07.200 So anyway, the pot thing, she's just so bad. 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:10.200 You know, let's just keep talking about Valerie and Dylan 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:12.920 for a second or that that whole side of the storyline. 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:17.120 I just I feel like when I see them together 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:20.960 upsets me because they're not right for each other. They're 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:23.280 not good for each other, and he's really going down 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:26.240 a bad, bad road and she's helping him, and it 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:27.960 bothers me so much. Like I don't even want to 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:28.440 watch it. 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:30.680 But they're so hot together. 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:34.360 God, you think they have their You guys like their 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:38.880 I like their makeups scene, Sorry you do? Yeah? 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:43.839 Like I sort of like her with Steve better something 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:46.080 I know, unpopular. 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:49.599 You like Steve the most, You want him to be better, 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:53.279 and he wants to be with her. Clearly he said, 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:56.120 uh something about I don't get with this girl. 0:04:57.600 --> 0:05:00.400 That was so gross. That was so gross. 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:03.839 Fool references in this one were next level funny. I 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:05.920 thought they were funny, you know me, I like that 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:09.520 the kids are older now, Yeah. 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:12.440 Toy I agree with you completely. They were funny. We'll 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:15.839 go they were funny. They were they were clever and funny, 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:18.840 but it was like, oh, what show am I watching? 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:24.040 There were a lot of like adult innuendos. Yes, and 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:26.520 like I said, they weren't as cheesy as some of 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:29.000 the Valerie Dylan stuff. They were a little bit more. 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:33.359 It's getting to be the more the real humor of 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:36.240 the cast in real life and getting comfortable and just 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:37.280 throwing in zingers. 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:42.039 Yes, that's so interesting you say that, because that that 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:43.720 kind of is landing on me, because when you guys 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:47.840 tell me stories of how y'all were, that is sort 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:53.120 of more incorporated. That's great, great, Yeah, a great sort 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:55.760 of note. I think you're right, And this did feel 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:58.599 some of the lines, especially with the boys, felt like 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:01.040 how they probably were talking to each other her in 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:01.599 real life. 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:05.240 Right, definitely, Yeah. 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:08.640 But yeah, I do not like Dylan and Valerie. It's 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:15.000 he's too mean. He's so mean mean, she's everybody. 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:16.960 He's mean to everybody. I don't know how he gets 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:19.080 away with that, Like he's mean to Steve. 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:22.080 He's so mean, And I guess we're supposed to be 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:25.040 interpret as he's a mean drunk, like I guess, so 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:28.480 why would you come over here without calling? And then 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:33.200 she just is like so sexual about it. 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:35.760 But she rolls with it. She's clever. 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:39.960 It's like, yeah, she's a crafty character, very crafty and 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:40.960 kind of cunning. 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:43.520 Honey, Yeah, that's a good word. But to me, if 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:49.280 she's such a strong woman who owns her everything, right, 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:52.120 she owns her power, she owns her sexuality, I would 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:54.000 never put up with a guy talking to me like that, 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:55.480 do you know what I'm saying. 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:57.760 That's a good point. But she's just trying to get 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:01.520 something out of him, like she has a motive. Yeah, 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:03.760 so she's not gonna think stop her, And. 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:05.880 She is smart. She's the only one who's figured out 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:09.240 he doesn't have money. She's like, he doesn't behave like 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:12.160 someone with money. He behaves like somebody who needs money. 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:15.000 And she's the only one who's figuring out what's going 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:17.800 on with him. But yet she still like triples down 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:21.120 and like wants to be with this guy who treats 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:23.080 her like dog poopoo. 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:24.600 Because he's good in the sack. 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:27.640 But she's aware of it. It's it's different and she's 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:30.560 doing it. It's not desperate it's not. It's it's a 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:33.560 clever I feel like she knows what she's getting. She 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:36.280 doesn't want more than that, and so she's like, I'm 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:38.000 fine with this. This is the way it is. I 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:41.080 can accept this challenge. Let's do it, and we'll challenge. 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:43.800 I think she is like they're. 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:48.080 On the same like devious path, you know, so you 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:50.640 like to hang out. People liked it when they're you know, 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:52.760 being bad. They like to hang out with other people 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:53.480 that are being bad. 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:58.280 Yeah. I thought there was an interesting sort of situation 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:02.720 with Kelly and Donna in this episode in that Donna, 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:05.560 to me, is usually the one who's always right right 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:08.120 like she is, she always kind of gets it, She's 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:11.360 got people figured out. She's usually right, and in this case, 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:17.320 Kelly actually is right about Valerie, but people sort of 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:20.360 think she's being mean. Like Donna's like I like her, 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:22.760 you know, seeing the best in her. Yeah. 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:25.120 I think Kelly's usually the one that's like kind of 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:26.880 like what Donna said, like you always think the worst 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:28.600 of people. She doesn't think the worst of people. She 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:33.680 just questions people's motives. I think more than maybe she 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:36.719 should or maybe than other characters. But Kelly is right 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:40.680 about her, but Donna's usually right about like other things. 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:43.360 But I think Kelly has a good sense of people's 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:46.360 true nature, Like she feels like I feel like she 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:47.960 knows what she's dealing with. 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:51.880 And I feel like when Donna starts to hang out 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:54.319 with her more, she doesn't really know her yet. That's 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:57.120 when Donna usually can see what's going on, and she hasn't. 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:58.880 That's true, you've seen her more. 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:04.000 And I don't use the most overly used psychological phrase gaslighting, 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:06.920 but like that was some aggressive gas lighting their valerie. 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:11.000 When she's fully making out with Dylan, Kelly fully sees it. 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:13.320 And then they come out of the peach pit and 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:16.920 she literally trying to some kind. 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:20.600 Of about Yeah, like that didn't happen. 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:23.080 No, he like made a move on me, And I 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:27.400 mean I had no choice. What, Yeah, you could have not? 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:28.200 Yeah? 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:34.360 What in the actual what? Like there were so many 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:38.040 things in this episode where I'm just like, oh my god, 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:39.120 I don't. 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:41.880 Remember in real life when we were filming this, I 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:45.839 do not remember Dylan ever owning the peach pit. H 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:49.000 oh really for me, it doesn't track at all. 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:52.440 It was from when the brother wanted to sell it, 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.439 when Nat had his heart attack. Yeah, yeah, and Dylan 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:55.679 came in. 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:59.679 Yeah, but like I don't I don't remember that ever happening. 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:00.560 Oh really? 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:02.880 And what I don't remember a rave in the peach 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:06.959 pit either, Like what was that like? And what were 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:11.160 those drinks that months was serving? Yea, who thought of that? 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:13.160 Was that? Non alcoholic? 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:16.040 And then there was like a tray of shots that 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.880 got crashed into and everyone's stepping in the glass, which 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:23.240 made me so uncomfortable. I was like, oh my god, 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:24.960 they're just stepping in all that gloss. 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:28.800 It honestly was the lamest rave I've ever seen. 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:32.000 My thing is just the peach pit with the old 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:35.240 records on the wall and the juke box. Like when 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:37.560 you kind of look at it, you're like, how campy 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:41.160 just weirdo is this place? 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:44.320 Yeah? I can't imagine a rave being there. 0:10:56.720 --> 0:11:01.320 How about the earthquake references? You guys, multiple earthquake references? 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:05.560 So when what is the date of this episode before? 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:08.680 And when was the quake? I know, we're right it. 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:11.160 Had before ninety four? Ninety four was quake? 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:11.719 Right? 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:14.480 And then this episode airs, so yeah, like they really 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:18.000 were working in the references because because Ray Pruitt is 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:23.439 doing retrofitting Ray prew It, Enter Ray prew It. 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:29.920 Ah, he's kind of Studley. I'm so hilarious, And Donna says, 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:31.000 can you just take your shirt off? 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.640 Scry What did you think watching those scenes? 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:38.600 It was so funny watching it because I guess at 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:40.880 the time, you know, we were all so in that world. 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:43.360 I wasn't thinking about it, but like going back and 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:46.000 looking at it as a fan, I was like, oh 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:48.840 my god, he was like huge at that time because of. 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:51.439 What he was on the show before or two or not. 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:53.360 Is that why he was known? 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:54.920 I thought this got him known. 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:58.800 You guys know he became famous in a movie with 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:04.440 John Travolta where he's saying in it, sorry, no way. 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:05.480 Oh wait, let me look it up. Okay, keep going 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:06.600 and I'll get you the name something. 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:09.080 He was faf. He got famous for that movie. And 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:14.480 then my dad nabbed him up for The Heights. That's right, yep, 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:16.840 And then that was a fox. When that didn't out 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:22.560 shout was huge out he was became major. Then he 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:26.160 was Withdrew Barrymore, that was a deal. He was on 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:28.320 the cover of Max. He was he was huge, and 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:30.760 then The Heights so. 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:33.040 Was the Heights before this or after this. 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:35.440 He was on The Heights before this. When it got 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:38.360 canceled after one season, my dad said, this guy's major, 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:40.920 Like I want to use him again. So he actually, 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:43.199 if I got this right, wrote the song how do 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:47.360 You Talk to an Angel? And yeah, that's right, and 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:50.160 then he transitioned it into nine o two one ol. 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:54.320 So okay, and I don't want to say the wrong thing, Tori, 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:58.240 so you tell me. So this guy does shout and 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:00.680 he's like blown up that he does on The Heights. 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:02.920 Then he has this huge song. Then he comes on 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:05.040 nine oh two on oh and they write this whack 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:07.600 character and it kind of wrecked his career. 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:08.800 That's right. 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:12.040 Oh my god, that's sort of a bummer. 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:15.480 You really how it went sort of like that's a 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:16.760 huge bummer. Wait. 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:21.640 Yeah, so The Heights was in nineteen ninety two, it 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:24.800 got can't tory, way to go? You had this exactly right. 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:28.360 So then he comes on nine oh two one oh 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:35.360 in ninety four to ninety six. Yeah, and then yeah, 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:38.560 like you guys, I don't want to be back like nothing. 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:45.400 So he he was on to Serve and Protect two episodes, 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:48.679 The Mumbo Jumbo Dead Last and bh nine oh two 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:52.000 one oh, Like this is kind of an interesting sort 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:54.640 of like if we were doing nine oh two one 0:13:54.640 --> 0:14:00.560 oh university like study. This guy had a great career 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:03.920 and then he plays this character that's abusive. I don't 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:06.320 want to spoiler alert, but like, come on, everybody's seen 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:09.400 this and it kind of ruined his career when we. 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:11.400 Didn't kind of going out. If you talk to him 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:13.640 about that, he was able to kind of go down 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:18.000 that line of being self deprecating and kind of acknowledging that. 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:21.680 I mean, my goodness, Like, I actually want to talk 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:23.280 about this for a sec because it's like I needed 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:25.000 to strike to end so we can have him on. 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:26.960 Maybe he'd come on anyway if he's not really working. 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:28.360 Actually he is. 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:30.240 He full works, he has a career, he's an EMT. 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:32.640 He's I'm saying, he's not in sad. If he's not 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:34.440 in sad, he can come on with us now, Lorraine. 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:36.080 Let's ask him and see if he come on now, 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:39.920 because he's not he wouldn't be like, there's no issue. 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:40.720 He's not in the union. 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:43.240 So I'll tell you exactly how it went. 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:46.360 That's actually good, crazy. 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:51.600 Huge music career obviously outside of being an actor as well. 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:55.480 Obviously they didn't do it on purpose. They loved him 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:59.040 and they wanted to redeem him. Ultimately, he was supposed 0:14:59.040 --> 0:14:59.640 to stay on. 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:02.920 Oh my god, and the fans just would not do it. 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:05.640 Fans went, so, I mean, I'll let man, it's his 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:09.160 story to share. But well but we can't, I mean, 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:12.520 because it's public. But yeah, aggressive. They would come up 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:14.760 to him in the streets and like you push Darnie 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:18.480 down the stairs, they would I think someone hit him. 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:21.720 Oh, oh my god. So here's my question for you two. 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:27.400 I think obviously because nine oh two one zero is 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:30.680 now at its biggest, We're in season five, so I 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:32.840 would argue we'd have to pull the exact ratings, but like, 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:37.840 it's still at its height, right. This was huge because 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:41.040 it was so huge and because of the fandom was 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:44.000 so massive, and we all were blurring. Think about it. 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:46.800 People call you guys, Kelly and Donna all the time. 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:50.520 It's all blurred. And that's why this poor Jamie Walters 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:55.920 gets sort of dragged because of Ray Pruitt. He's not 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:58.720 Ray Pruitt. He didn't do that as a character, but 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:00.720 people just blur it so much. 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:04.480 Such a good call that's exactly it. 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:08.200 Oh my god, I sort of want to say bless him, 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:09.240 like that sucks. 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:15.040 But if that happened now, people would be like, that's 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:17.640 a character that you played a TV show, in a movie. 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:19.920 You're very different. You could go on social media and 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:23.200 be like this is me. I'm totally I'm a great human. 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:25.960 I would never do something like this. But at the time, 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:26.800 that was it. 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:31.000 Right right, and it was so huge. 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:34.840 Weren't able to have a real personal voice, Like now 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:36.960 you could be like this is me, right, but you 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:38.360 couldn't then, Like. 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:41.800 Did everyone think you were a virgin forever? Same kind 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:42.080 of thing. 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:45.520 I know, that's so weird. No one ever asked that. 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:47.280 It's kind of personal. 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:49.960 Well, you're one now, you're still one now. 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:53.640 People always thought that I was a boyfriend stealer, like 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:55.920 you know, I took Dylan from Brenda. 0:16:55.640 --> 0:17:00.240 Which Jenny Jenny was so yeah, but. 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:04.800 That they were mad at me, Jenny, because Kelly took 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:05.720 Brenda's boyfriend. 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:07.960 I'm glad Torri gave the timeline because I had it 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:12.040 in my mind totally reversed that he was nine o 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:14.800 two one oh came first, and that he blew up 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:16.359 from nine o two one oh and went on to 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:18.920 do the Heights and had the song to really learn 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:21.560 that it was the opposite cover. 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:23.919 Of Interview magazine with Drew barrymore too like he was 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:26.879 he was, Yeah, he was on the cover. Sorry, I'm sorry. 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:30.359 Was there a Rolling Stone shoot with before he was 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:35.360 on the show with Jamie Walters, Luke Perry, Jason Priestley 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:37.600 and one other guy that was hot and huge in 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:40.960 the nineties before nine oh two one oh wearing white 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:44.959 T shirts because Jamie. 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:47.840 Here's my question for you guys, knowing the behind the 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:50.520 scenes that they wanted him to redeem himself and you know, 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:53.240 stay on the show. But how does a character redeem 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:56.879 themselves from being like punching and throwing Donna down the 0:17:57.040 --> 0:18:02.760 stairs like that seems hard to come back from. Yeah, 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:05.199 speaking of being ahead of its time, I sort of 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:08.919 get that the fans were like, f this guy, How 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:10.520 would they have ever loved him? Again? 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:14.440 No, you can't hit Sweet Donna. You can't you can't 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:16.040 push Sweet Donna down the stairs. 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:19.359 That's just not no character, especially on Nino two one oh, 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:22.640 is going to be able to redeem themselves from that. 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:26.639 I mean, except you would you would think, though, mean 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:29.119 because he's an original cast me. I were like, David 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:32.000 cheated on Donna the Virgin, like she loved him and 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:36.120 did everything in he was redeemable. Yeah, but I don't. 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:36.560 Buy that either. 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:38.159 That's the other thing I was gonna talk about with 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:41.840 this episode was like, I find it really amazing but 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:47.480 unrealistic that Donna is gonna be totally cool with Claire 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:50.000 and David in her apartment. 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:55.800 Jenny have agree, I said. 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:57.480 Guess though, I said, like I would not like it 0:18:57.920 --> 0:18:59.840 would not be okay, like right, but. 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:02.280 In ye specifically in that I think it was like 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:06.440 the editing of Bay or something, when you're like joking 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:08.440 about it. Yeah, Like I was like. 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:11.240 I don't buy that, dude, me either. That does not 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:14.120 track because I was in a sorority and I remember 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:21.600 girls in the living room basically like having major problems 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:25.159 because one girl was dating somebody that one girl in 0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:29.040 the sorority dated two years earlier, and you're just like 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:32.119 what and they would claim there was a lot of claiming, 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:36.520 Oh I claimed him? Huh So yeah, that did not 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:38.240 track for me. I was like, she would be so 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:41.359 hurt by her roommate kissing the like it's not a 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:43.840 boy she one time dated. It's like the love of 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:45.399 her life all of high school? 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:48.800 What and they're still pining for each other, Like you 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:52.479 see him looking at you with the other guys, and 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:55.160 you notice him with other girls. But yeah, because it's 0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:58.560 Claire your friend, I mean, you try to be okay. 0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:02.320 I don't know. I mean maybe that kind of Donna's 0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:06.080 so so sweet that maybe that what she would have 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:09.439 wanted to be, like, look, you're my friend and I 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:10.960 want you to be happy or whatever. 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:14.520 But I don't know, I just didn't. You're right, it doesn't. No, 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:18.000 it doesn't. Track and Griffin on Griffin Stone. 0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:20.640 I feel it's gonna happen with Griffin. Are you gonna 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:21.880 dump him for rape Root? 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:26.320 Well, it's so weird to see this because at the 0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:28.840 time I had told you, guys, in real life, Casper 0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:32.359 and I liked him, Yeah, I mean it wasn't like 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:35.240 fullible and dating, like we liked each other but then 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:40.520 had something. But then enter Jamie Walters. 0:20:39.400 --> 0:20:40.680 So hot, like. 0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:44.520 I had those real feelings in real life, like, oh 0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:47.000 my god, who which one of these guys? 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:50.639 Yeah, So basically Donna in this episode has three guys. 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:54.879 It was showing like cross the paths right now, I. 0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:56.919 Wish we could have thrown DeShawn back in there and 0:20:56.960 --> 0:21:13.240