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Speaker 1: It's nine O gen one oengine with Jenny Garth and

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Speaker 1: Tory spelling. Hello everybody, We are back with another nine

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Speaker 1: O two on OMG recap episode Yeah on baby, you've

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Speaker 1: waited for us. We appreciate it. But we are here

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Speaker 1: now and we have so much to talk about.

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Speaker 2: We really do.

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Speaker 1: This is episode season five, Episode five, rave On, aired

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Speaker 1: October fifth, nineteen ninety four.

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Speaker 3: Synopsis. Kelly's suspicions about Valerie turn out to be true.

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Speaker 3: Steve Launch is a club to try to save the

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Speaker 3: peach prit. Dylan developed sticky fingers. Donna sets her eyes

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Speaker 3: on Rayproo. If he's here, one ta his mama couldn't

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Speaker 3: afford too. David is feeling a little jelly, and Jesse

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Speaker 3: is feeling a little frisky.

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Speaker 1: Directed by David Semel, written by Larry Mullin.

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Speaker 2: You got can I just right off of that, I've

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Speaker 2: never smoked pot in my life. I have never smoke

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Speaker 2: pot in my life, So you can take this. They

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Speaker 2: are acting like she is a crackhead, do you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean? Like they are the pot.

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Speaker 3: She was smoking pot.

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Speaker 1: It was not a thing that people did anywhere legally.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's so true. It was a different time, but

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Speaker 2: like it is.

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Speaker 3: Nine on two one ol, so we're getting like juicier

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Speaker 3: but still like, oh keep it's safe, like it's pot.

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Speaker 1: Kelly says basic Brandon. Valeries a pothead.

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Speaker 2: It rereaked, It rereaked.

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Speaker 1: She's so concerned about it. And I was thinking she's

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Speaker 1: like she's been exposed to a lot of drugs because

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Speaker 1: of her upbringing with her mom and all the addictions

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Speaker 1: she's around by, you know, like I didn't think it

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Speaker 1: felt right for Kelly to be the one that had

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Speaker 1: a real problem with it.

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Speaker 2: Well, my flag on the play was, look, I don't,

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Speaker 2: like I said, I've never smoked pot in my life.

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Speaker 2: Valerie's pot problem seems to be really stirring everyone up.

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Speaker 2: Yet Dylan is a falling down, drunk, drunk mess mess

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Speaker 2: and valeriees just okay, like oh let's make out, And

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Speaker 2: I'm like, are you what is happening? If I was what?

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Speaker 1: Plus I've happened to smell the smoke from a Marriorji

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Speaker 1: Wanna cigarette, one of them funny cigarettes before, and uh,

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Speaker 1: you can smell it a mile away totally. It smells

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Speaker 1: like a ch smell. She's smoking it in her window

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Speaker 1: and thinking it's not like on her breath, like, of

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Speaker 1: course people are gonna smell that.

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Speaker 2: She's like, I would never smoke it in the house,

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Speaker 2: mind you, she's like in the window. I did laugh

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Speaker 2: at the incense though, it's so you, Jenny, the incense.

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Speaker 1: That little pot, a little Genie pot of incense. Insert

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Speaker 1: But I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry you guys. Did she the pot whatever?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 3: Sorry, I don't know, but you could tell I don't

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Speaker 3: smoke pot on the windowsill. Did she put it out there?

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Speaker 1: Yes, she snubbed it out. She snubved it out on

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Speaker 1: the side of the wall shouse.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, she say, my mom's incense. She's I'm a boomer.

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Speaker 3: Wait what boomer?

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Speaker 1: She called herself a boomer, which is what we call

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Speaker 1: ourselves because we don't know how to have the computer.

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Speaker 2: We're not boomers, we're jen x.

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Speaker 3: What is a boomer?

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Speaker 2: A boomer is the generation before us, the baby boomers, boomers,

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Speaker 2: That's what I assumed. She meant.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I love that movie with Diane Keaton Baby Food amazing.

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Speaker 2: I've never seen that.

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Speaker 3: Love it. You would love it so good?

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Speaker 1: I love I know you have to see that one.

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Speaker 3: You would love it.

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Speaker 2: He's right, that's a baby. That's because she's having a baby.

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Speaker 2: She's not a boomer, yes, but it's still a random

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Speaker 2: ref Like I don't get it, but I don't know.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, the pot thing, she's just so bad.

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Speaker 1: You know, let's just keep talking about Valerie and Dylan

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Speaker 1: for a second or that that whole side of the storyline.

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Speaker 1: I just I feel like when I see them together

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Speaker 1: upsets me because they're not right for each other. They're

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Speaker 1: a bad, bad road and she's helping him, and it

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Speaker 1: bothers me so much. Like I don't even want to

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Speaker 3: But they're so hot together.

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Speaker 1: God, you think they have their You guys like their

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Speaker 1: I like their makeups scene, Sorry you do? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Like I sort of like her with Steve better something

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Speaker 2: I know, unpopular.

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Speaker 1: You like Steve the most, You want him to be better,

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Speaker 1: and he wants to be with her. Clearly he said,

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Speaker 1: uh something about I don't get with this girl.

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Speaker 2: That was so gross. That was so gross.

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Speaker 3: Fool references in this one were next level funny. I

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Speaker 3: thought they were funny, you know me, I like that

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Speaker 3: the kids are older now, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Toy I agree with you completely. They were funny. We'll

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Speaker 2: go they were funny. They were they were clever and funny,

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Speaker 2: but it was like, oh, what show am I watching?

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Speaker 2: There were a lot of like adult innuendos. Yes, and

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Speaker 2: like I said, they weren't as cheesy as some of

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Speaker 2: the Valerie Dylan stuff. They were a little bit more.

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Speaker 3: It's getting to be the more the real humor of

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Speaker 3: the cast in real life and getting comfortable and just

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Speaker 3: throwing in zingers.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's so interesting you say that, because that that

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Speaker 2: kind of is landing on me, because when you guys

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Speaker 2: tell me stories of how y'all were, that is sort

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Speaker 2: of more incorporated. That's great, great, Yeah, a great sort

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Speaker 2: of note. I think you're right, And this did feel

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Speaker 2: some of the lines, especially with the boys, felt like

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Speaker 2: how they probably were talking to each other her in

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Speaker 1: Right, definitely, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I do not like Dylan and Valerie. It's

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Speaker 2: he's too mean. He's so mean mean, she's everybody.

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Speaker 1: He's mean to everybody. I don't know how he gets

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Speaker 2: He's so mean, And I guess we're supposed to be

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Speaker 2: interpret as he's a mean drunk, like I guess, so

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Speaker 2: why would you come over here without calling? And then

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Speaker 2: she just is like so sexual about it.

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Speaker 3: But she rolls with it. She's clever.

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Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, she's a crafty character, very crafty and

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Speaker 2: Honey, Yeah, that's a good word. But to me, if

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Speaker 2: she's such a strong woman who owns her everything, right,

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Speaker 2: she owns her power, she owns her sexuality, I would

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Speaker 1: That's a good point. But she's just trying to get

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Speaker 2: She is smart. She's the only one who's figured out

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Speaker 2: he doesn't have money. She's like, he doesn't behave like

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Speaker 2: And she's the only one who's figuring out what's going

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Speaker 1: Because he's good in the sack.

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Speaker 3: But she's aware of it. It's it's different and she's

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Speaker 3: can accept this challenge. Let's do it, and we'll challenge.

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Speaker 3: I think she is like they're.

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Speaker 1: On the same like devious path, you know, so you

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Speaker 1: like to hang out. People liked it when they're you know,

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Speaker 1: that are being bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought there was an interesting sort of situation

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Speaker 2: Kelly actually is right about Valerie, but people sort of

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Speaker 2: you know, seeing the best in her. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think Kelly's usually the one that's like kind of

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Speaker 1: like what Donna said, like you always think the worst

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Speaker 1: But I think Kelly has a good sense of people's

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Speaker 3: And I feel like when Donna starts to hang out

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Speaker 3: That's true, you've seen her more.

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Speaker 2: And I don't use the most overly used psychological phrase gaslighting,

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Speaker 2: but like that was some aggressive gas lighting their valerie.

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Speaker 2: When she's fully making out with Dylan, Kelly fully sees it.

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Speaker 1: Of about Yeah, like that didn't happen.

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Speaker 2: No, he like made a move on me, And I

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Speaker 2: mean I had no choice. What, Yeah, you could have not?

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Speaker 2: What in the actual what? Like there were so many

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 1: Remember in real life when we were filming this, I

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Speaker 2: It was from when the brother wanted to sell it,

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Speaker 2: when Nat had his heart attack. Yeah, yeah, and Dylan

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but like I don't I don't remember that ever happening.

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Speaker 2: Oh really?

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Speaker 1: And what I don't remember a rave in the peach

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Speaker 1: those drinks that months was serving? Yea, who thought of that?

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Speaker 2: And then there was like a tray of shots that

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Speaker 2: made me so uncomfortable. I was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: they're just stepping in all that gloss.

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Speaker 1: It honestly was the lamest rave I've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: My thing is just the peach pit with the old

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Speaker 2: you kind of look at it, you're like, how campy

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Speaker 2: just weirdo is this place?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I can't imagine a rave being there.

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Speaker 2: How about the earthquake references? You guys, multiple earthquake references?

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Speaker 2: So when what is the date of this episode before?

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Speaker 2: And when was the quake? I know, we're right it.

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Speaker 3: Had before ninety four? Ninety four was quake?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: And then this episode airs, so yeah, like they really

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Speaker 2: were working in the references because because Ray Pruitt is

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Speaker 1: Ah, he's kind of Studley. I'm so hilarious, And Donna says,

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Speaker 3: But if that happened now, people would be like, that's

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Speaker 1: No, you can't hit Sweet Donna. You can't you can't

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Speaker 3: Guess though, I said, like I would not like it

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Speaker 2: I don't buy that, dude, me either. That does not

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Speaker 1: What and they're still pining for each other, Like you

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Speaker 3: But I don't know, I just didn't. You're right, it doesn't. No,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So basically Donna in this episode has three guys.

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Speaker 2: what is going on? Why is she even into Ray

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Speaker 2: He is a construction worker that is a musician.

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Speaker 2: It was yucky.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not gonna lie when when Ray Pruitt said,

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Speaker 3: I liked it, like go along with him, didn't feel guilty.

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Speaker 2: episode was jam packed because we have not talked about

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Speaker 2: the moment that sort of made me cringe, super cringe.

439
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 2: They were really pouring it on thick with Jesse and

440
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 2: Andrea being so giggly googly in love, and I just

441
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 2: had a pit in my stomach, going.

442
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 1: Yeah that hurt. When when saw Jesse at work. But

443
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Speaker 1: he's trying to get them too, tell you.

444
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, he just needs says tips. He's got to

445
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Speaker 2: do it.

446
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: He's working it. But oh god, I felt so bad

447
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 1: for her, though.

448
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 2: I did too about Cindy with her couple good eggs

449
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Speaker 2: or whatever.

450
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 3: She Oh my god, that was uncomfortable. And then I

451
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 3: was like, wait, I thought you were older. Oh my gosh, yeah,

452
00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 3: how old.

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Speaker 1: She's my She is in her forties at least in

454
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Speaker 1: the in.

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Speaker 2: This well, the kids are twenty. She didn't have them

456
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 2: at twenty. She's forty five. At least she's gonna be

457
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 2: having those hot flashes like me, come on, you can still.

458
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: Have a few good eggs at forty five.

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00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 2: I don't know. Actually google it naturally.

460
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Speaker 3: I mean, we didn't expect him. But at forty four, I.

461
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 2: Think it just keeps dropping because I googled odds of

462
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 2: getting pregnant at forty nine and it's like two percent.

463
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah. I had an obgyn come up and be like,

464
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 3: I said, all my kids were natural, like we just

465
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 3: didn't play in Nick came, and Nick came and she

466
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 3: said it was like a less than a five percent

467
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 3: chance that I was with him naturally at forty four. Wild. Yeah,

468
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 3: So Cindy or Cindy, I don't know, they should have

469
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 3: another baby though, Oh Jen, I meant to tell you this.

470
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 3: I feel like Valerie on the show. Sorry Kelly, she's

471
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 3: taking all of Kelly's men. But this is crossing into

472
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Speaker 3: Jenny now because she makes the moves on Jim Walsh.

473
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Speaker 1: He was flirting with my man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I wanted to bring that up, because

475
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 3: not then, but the Jenny now Yeah, looks back and

476
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 3: finds Jim Walsh ai an hfd. Yeah, so I thought

477
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 3: it made me laugh out loud watching Oh my god,

478
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 3: that's the final straw I'm going to go back in

479
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 3: time and pick this girl's ass.

480
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: So she's moving in on my Jim. Oh my god, hilarious.

481
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: Well what do you guys read this episode?

482
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 2: Wait, we're done?

483
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 3: No so much.

484
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 2: I think I need a little bit more. I need

485
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 2: a little bit more.

486
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: You want to talk about my bad haircut? How about that?

487
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 2: Talk about how the hair is getting shorter and shorter?

488
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 1: Why do I have a flippy doo?

489
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 3: Like I'm not like it's almost like a mullet. But

490
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 3: you know what, it looks good. Sometimes sometimes that is

491
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 3: not an eat haircut. Your face is so beautiful. It's

492
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 3: like it's like it's like like an in like your

493
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 3: face and it's just this.

494
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 1: Is my haircut from back then. Hold on, it's like

495
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: a bad shag. It's like a goat. Honestly, it looks

496
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: like a goat or a weed whacker.

497
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 3: We I think it's bad.

498
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 2: This one. They gets shorter, I think, yeah.

499
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: Oh god, I think the shorter is gonna look better

500
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: than this is like a two tone, like a bi

501
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: level mullet.

502
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the combat boots on everybody though.

503
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 3: Oh in the Mary Jeans, Mary Jeans are this is

504
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 3: when they first started enter Mary Jans and now they're

505
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 3: in right now, Oh.

506
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're Mary Jans. But did you see so you

507
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 2: were wearing the Mary Jans with the white sox and

508
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 2: the baby gull dress with the clip clip clips. Jenny's

509
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 2: wearing denim shorts, respect but with combat boots, like real

510
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 2: tough boots for the wet T shirt.

511
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 1: So good.

512
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 3: Jeans shorts good.

513
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 1: You know.

514
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 2: Also, that's right Valeries wearing. She's sort of wearing a

515
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 2: low cut black top with the jeans and then the

516
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 2: combat boots. Again. I mean, it was really the Doc

517
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 2: Martin's kind of. I guess they were Doc Martin sort of.

518
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: This was the Doc Martin era, right. How do you

519
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 2: feel about the fashion.

520
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: Good, Yeah, good about the fashion mid nineties is way

521
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 1: better than early nineties. Let's say that.

522
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 2: Okay before we go, I know we have to write

523
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 2: that episode. We do start to get a little bit

524
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 2: of like Kelly's got the gift for Erica and you

525
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 2: bring up Suzanne and Kevin. We're getting a sprinkle back

526
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 2: in that. I'm hoping soon we're going to know he

527
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 2: has no money and that he's going to get clean.

528
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 2: I'm like pretty sick of you know, the thing that

529
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 2: people don't know. It's like, can can we just have

530
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: the truth come out?

531
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 3: The dreams of Dylan McKay coming soon?

532
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,719
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, you're right. I think they are in this season.

533
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 3: He knows.

534
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 1: Those are the weirdest episodes ever.

535
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 3: I got to make out with Luke the dream sequence.

536
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: Sorry speak wait wait wait, speaking of making out, you

537
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: had a kiss in the scene, and I definitely saw tongue.

538
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: Oh when when Yes, I saw it, I saw that tongue. Yes,

539
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: they have a big kiss. Ysp mm hm fair yeah, fair,

540
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: that's all she's got to say.

541
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 2: Yes, My worst fashion moment for me was Dylan's torn shirt.

542
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 2: The sleeveless Oh.

543
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, he loved a sleeveless shirt though, you know, I

544
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: remember seeing him in shirts with the with the sleeves

545
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: gone cut off.

546
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 2: That's it.

547
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: I would give this episode hmmm, what do you think?

548
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: A seven?

549
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 2: Oh God, I don't know.

550
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of I didn't like the rave. I

551
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: didn't like the nine.

552
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 2: Obviously it's a nine.

553
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: Giving it a ten, thank you Toys ten because of

554
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: Ray Perley. Probably you like him.

555
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 3: No, I'm sorry. The Kelly and Dylan and Valerie thing,

556
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 3: Kelly and Valerie is like seeing them go head ahead.

557
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 3: I'm like there for it. Sorry, it's like girl drama

558
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 3: boy drama. Oh my gosh. The whole thing was drama

559
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 3: rama and I loved it.

560
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kelly's definitely mad dog about a lot.

561
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 2: I liked how jam packed it was too. I didn't

562
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 2: have a moment of like a wasted scene really like,

563
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: it was just packed full of storylines. Yep, season five

564
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 2: is thriving.

565
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: People. I like this season. People like it.

566
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 3: I love it so much.

567
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: Well, we will be back next week with yet another episode.

568
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: We will be covering, uh, season five, but so six homecoming?

569
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: Maybe Bren is coming home.

570
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 3: You guys from London.

571
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's called homecoming. I don't want to stay this

572
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: homecoming dance? Do they do that in college?

573
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 2: She's never coming home, Jenny, that doesn't have never comes.

574
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: They always come home.

575
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: She came for pH nine O two one oh. She

576
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 2: didn't come home till then she came. They always come home, homecoming.

577
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 3: Wait, Amy, just tease it a little like, what does

578
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 3: that need coming?

579
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? I actually can't remember why it's called that. I

580
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 2: wish I could. I actually don't remember why it's called that.

581
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 2: I just know we're getting We're going to get a

582
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 2: lot more of the h We're getting a lot more

583
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 2: good stuff. I'll say that I get more. I don't

584
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 2: want to give too much away.

585
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can patch next pumpkin patch. I remember.

586
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 2: But I know exactly what you're talking about. I know

587
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 2: exactly what you're talking about. There's a lot of Ray.

588
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 2: There's a love triangle. There's a lot of drama.

589
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, there's a love triangle with Ray and Donna, and.

590
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's gonna you guys, don't make me give you,

591
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: don't make me give things away.

592
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, my real and real life would happened. It was,

593
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 3: Oh my god, wait for it. We'll wait for it

594
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 3: next week.

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00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: You. Guys love you,