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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 3: And no them and Tie Dan Rubertstein, we are back

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Speaker 3: for part duh.

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Speaker 2: We are of our March Q and A episode.

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Speaker 3: Go back and listen to part one, which we dropped

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Speaker 3: on Tuesday. We of course got a number of questions

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Speaker 3: Time to go through all them on our first episode,

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Speaker 3: so alas, here we are for part two. My friend,

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Speaker 3: how are you?

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you trying to bend time even though we

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Speaker 2: are wearing the exact same clothes as we did. If

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Speaker 2: It's okay. I'm good. I'm still good, I'm still excited.

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Speaker 2: I'm still enthusiastic about all of these messages and enthusiastic

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Speaker 2: about all of your answers.

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Speaker 3: Tie, I am as well. Again, we got a bunch

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Speaker 3: of questions from the verballer hood. Congratulations, Skippy, You've got.

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Speaker 3: We do our best to pay homage once a month

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Speaker 3: here in the off season. Everybody who sends in questions,

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Speaker 3: we got a bunch of good ones. Let's start part

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Speaker 3: two out on Patreon. Dan, this is a hot button question.

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Speaker 3: We have addressed it here and there over the course

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Speaker 3: of our podcast.

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Speaker 1: This one from Sean.

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Speaker 3: For those must have two point plays or fourth down conversions.

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Speaker 3: What are some of the best and worst plays in

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Speaker 3: your opinion? I believe Dan refers to these as excelsior plays.

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Speaker 2: Dan excelsire is more, what is your four minute offense

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Speaker 2: down to look like that you're stringing together plays that

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Speaker 2: field in high leverage situations. But yes, obviously fourth down

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Speaker 2: conversion plays and two point conversion plays. I mean there

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Speaker 2: As you know, Nick Foles had nobody near him for

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Speaker 3: To me, well, the Philly Special is I think the

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Speaker 2: Any jump pass, but Tim Tebow's was the Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I love teams that are really good at rub routes

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Speaker 3: I love a good half back toss pass, not one

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Speaker 2: I do, and I don't, but continue when it works.

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Speaker 3: It's just a utilitarian and if you can get the

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Speaker 2: And so that to me is something I think the

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Speaker 2: Felix Showanes, great, cool, awesome. That to me is the

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Speaker 2: problem with that play that you're taking a lot into

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Speaker 3: There is no better play in college football situation aside

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Speaker 3: If you're watching at home.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so, guys, I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: That's great.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to Gary Is Penn State, the Michigan of

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Speaker 3: then when thank you?

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Speaker 2: Okay. I don't immediately know what NFL evaluators think of

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Speaker 2: And Michigan had receivers, not great receivers, but decent receive.

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Speaker 3: They had decent receivers, guys who had been there a while.

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Speaker 3: Penn State does not have that this coming season. We

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Speaker 3: I think there is a very obvious parallel. Yeah, it

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Speaker 3: but I think it feels more attainable now because Penn

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Speaker 3: the College Football Playoff, did make the College Football Playoff.

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Speaker 3: Let's just be real, this is one of the top

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Speaker 3: the playoff most years based on what they've got coming back.

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Speaker 3: If they are unable to mount a more serious charge

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Speaker 3: on offense, I think it's fair to ask that question, like,

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Speaker 3: if not now, then when, Like we've been asking that,

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Speaker 3: I think for the last couple of weeks and talking

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Speaker 3: about Penn State, Gary's exactly at.

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Speaker 1: Where I'm at. I don't know if Michigan's the best compared,

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Speaker 2: Texas Beef is interesting with how much they lose on

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Speaker 2: I believe Texas beef is going to be a lot

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Speaker 2: I don't know what Notre Dame loses or doesn't lose

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Speaker 1: The college football customer.

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Speaker 3: He's paid to understand university presidents exactly right, And same

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Speaker 2: But they're also paid to understand what's too far? What's

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Speaker 3: Well, we are trapped in this endless cycle of pursuing more.

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Speaker 3: I think Greg Sankie's a smart guy, and I think

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Speaker 2: I don't know them. I don't know that they're smart.

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Speaker 1: I'm just making an assumption.

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Speaker 3: From Dan, he says, do Tony Petiti and Greg Sankie

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Speaker 3: you really think that fans.

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Speaker 1: Are stupid enough?

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Speaker 3: I believe that the twelve team playoff model needed to

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Speaker 1: It's insane.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have not talked to one person that listens

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Speaker 3: Everybody has seen right through it. I think it was

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Speaker 2: I have nothing to add. I'm just it's a situation

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Speaker 3: Go to Josh with Scott Leffler. That's Scott with one

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Speaker 3: First off, I like, I think it's pretty cool that

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Speaker 2: People seem to really like him. I think it's a

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: You know, Eddie George like big time name from our

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Speaker 1: What does it all mean for G five Dan?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we saw Mo Linguist leave Buffalo for

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Speaker 2: win all the time every year. And two, you want

442
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Speaker 2: a lot of these top programs want guys with experience

443
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 2: at top programs, and so you're the longer you are.

444
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 2: You know, Jason Candle at Toledo or something like that.

445
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 2: Programs say to themselves, I'm assuming educated guests here. How

446
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 2: could he step into this major place without major recent

447
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 2: major place experience. Now, we've had guys like Matt Campbell,

448
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 2: We've had guys like PJ Fleck that have you know,

449
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 2: joined teams and put their their spin on it, put

450
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 2: their sauce on it, whatever their imprint, and succeed. PJ.

451
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 2: Fleck has done a buy and large very good job

452
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Speaker 2: at Minnesota. Matt Campbell buy and large done a very

453
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Speaker 2: good job at Iowa State. But the thought is, is

454
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 2: that specific level of experience something that translates to Arizona State, right, Colorado, Florida?

455
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 2: Right that like you are seeing these coaches go to

456
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 2: major places sometimes in an effort to launder or wash

457
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 2: or gain new experience that would be more appealing trying

458
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 2: to get that head job. So okay, and the MAC

459
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 2: just doesn't seem to have those resources either retain go

460
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 2: after portal guys. It's just you see a year in

461
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 2: and year out that like this guy from Bowling Green,

462
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 2: this guy from Miami, Ohio, this guy from Northern Illinois,

463
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 2: like star level guys for those places are suddenly at

464
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Speaker 2: Baylor or at Kansas State whatever.

465
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Speaker 3: Hey, I said it at the start of last season.

466
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Speaker 3: There's just no retention I said it at the start

467
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Speaker 3: of last season. Don't treat the MAC as if it's

468
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Speaker 3: part of the college football universe. Treat it as if

469
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Speaker 3: it's its own self.

470
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Speaker 1: Contain bubble. It's more fun that way.

471
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Speaker 2: I agree.

472
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Speaker 3: The MAX season this past year was freakin' awesome. Yes,

473
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 3: it was an awesome season. At one point we had

474
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 3: a conversation about there being a six way tie atop

475
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 3: the conference and you know how the hell they were

476
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 3: going to settle all that.

477
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Speaker 2: So appreciate it for what it is, like it's the

478
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 2: Cape Cod League over the summer for baseball players. Yeah, absolutely,

479
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 2: appreciate it for what it is. But to the point here,

480
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 2: it's it's just harder in general for the G five

481
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 2: right now. Yeah, it's just harder in general.

482
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Speaker 3: Even though there is now this pathway to get into

483
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Speaker 3: the playoff, there's also a lot working against the G five.

484
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but like even in the American even

485
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Speaker 2: in the Mountain West, if you have a star level quarterback,

486
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 2: it's not absurd to think that you can retain that guy,

487
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 2: that you can retain Seth Hennigan, or that you can

488
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 2: you know, Maddox Madson, somebody like that, that they're not

489
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Speaker 2: automatically going to just take that offer from Cal or

490
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Speaker 2: from TCU or something like that, whereas in the MAC

491
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 2: it's kind of a shocker if a guy like that lasts.

492
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Speaker 2: Let's do one or two more here, Dan Okay, okay.

493
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Speaker 3: Joshua says, who's the quarterback or quarterbacks that disappointed you

494
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Speaker 3: the most in twenty twenty four that you are ready

495
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Speaker 3: to get hyped for and hurt by again in twenty

496
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Speaker 3: twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Is this a Dylan Royola question?

498
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Speaker 1: Is that?

499
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 3: No? I don't know if this is a Dylan roy

500
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 3: Old question. It can be if you want it to be.

501
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 3: I've got four names here.

502
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 1: I'm ready for you.

503
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 3: I've got Jalen Daniels from Kansas who through fourteen may

504
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 3: have looked at this incorrectly, but through a bunch of

505
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 3: interceptions last year, yeah, twelve interceptions, completion percentage dipped under

506
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Speaker 3: sixty percent. I was expecting a lot more of him.

507
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Speaker 3: Did not work out, Okay, Yeah, Joey Aguiar at app

508
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 3: State really didn't work out, okay, speaking of throwing a

509
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 3: bunch of picks. App State had a bad season, the

510
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 3: coach got fired, and now Joey Aguiar is off to Ucla.

511
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Speaker 3: He's gone, Yes, no Fafita. The whole Arizona story in

512
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four is pretty disappointing, But I think we

513
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 3: were both pretty hyped up for the fact that it

514
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 3: was going to be Fafiita and t Mac again.

515
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 2: But you're ready to be hurt by Noah Fafida again

516
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 2: now without Tea Mac.

517
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Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm ready to be hurt again.

518
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 3: I'm ready to be hurt by all these guys. I'm

519
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 3: a romantic, you know me?

520
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 1: Okay.

521
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 3: I also jotted down whoever is playing quarterback for Minnesota

522
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 3: this year?

523
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Speaker 1: Okay, you don't agree with this, I can tel already.

524
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Speaker 3: Well, Max Broser's not back, I know that, but just

525
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 3: the unnamed quarterback role at Minnesota is enough to hurt me.

526
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 1: Year in a year out.

527
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Speaker 3: I feel like I have been hyped up for whoever

528
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 3: Minnesota's quarterback has been over the last three years, and

529
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 3: always on some level they disappoint me. Max Brosber came

530
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 3: a little bit closer to not disappointing me, okay, but

531
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 3: still he did not live up to the expectations that

532
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 3: I had for him before the start of the year.

533
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 3: So whether it's you know, Zach Pirn or Drake Lindsay,

534
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 3: whoever they go with this year, Inevitably I will hype

535
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 3: up that guy in my preseason and I will find

536
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 3: some way to be disappointed by them by the time

537
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 3: the end of the season rules round.

538
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Speaker 1: Who are those names for you?

539
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 3: Oh?

540
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 2: One hundred percent Nico, one hundred percent Nico.

541
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Speaker 1: Okay.

542
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 2: Previously on Nico Iomaliava, it was bad against Ohio State.

543
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 2: It was more legs than arm obviously, and that had

544
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 2: it wasn't just on him, of course, But I'm not

545
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 2: selling my Nico stock. I'm not selling my Jackson Arnold stock.

546
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 2: I think that's going to be very Jackson Arnold friendly

547
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 2: program in the way that it wasn't given receiver and

548
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 2: offensive line health and issues and offensive coordinator issues. Okay,

549
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 2: weird to say this about a Hugh Freeze program likely

550
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 2: more stable footing for Jackson Arnold than what he had at,

551
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: isn't it. I'm ready to be hurt again by Malik

552
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 2: Murphy at Oregon State. Now that's a transfer situation. I

553
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: just think there's a bunch of talent there and his

554
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 2: dear at Duke will is at best up and down

555
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 2: with some pretty low moments so Malik Murphy, I'm ready

556
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: to be hurt by once again. There was another tip

557
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 2: of my tongue. Malik Murphy, Jackson Arnolds, somebody else I

558
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 2: think in the SEC? Who who else would qualify as

559
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 2: an SEC? I mentioned Dylan Royola. Well not looked up

560
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 2: the list?

561
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: Yeaheah for sure?

562
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 2: Who is there anybody else you have? While I remind myself, well, I.

563
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Speaker 1: Thought about Nico. I mean, I think Nico's a good answer.

564
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

565
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 3: I still think Nico is really really talented. But in

566
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 3: terms of being kind of like the prince that was

567
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 3: promised for all things Tennessee, Who's going to take them

568
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 3: to greater heights, right, we just haven't seen that yet,

569
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 3: and there are reasons for that. I still have a

570
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 3: lot of faith in Nico. I still wish the Giants

571
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 3: were around to draft him in twenty twenty six because

572
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 3: I really like his talent. But in terms of getting

573
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 3: Tennessee over the hump, yeah, to that level, it's been

574
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 3: dis point.

575
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 2: Oh, I've got one Aiden Chiles. I'm ready to be

576
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 2: hurt again. The best of Aiden Chiles is really fun.

577
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: I'm ready to be hurt by Aiden Chiles and all

578
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: of his turnovers. Once again, ready to be hurt by

579
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:17,239
Speaker 2: Miller Moss again because I saw that LSU game. I

580
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,959
Speaker 2: saw some of the throws for Miller Moss and that

581
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: was there were good receivers. I think the offensive line

582
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: was pretty horrible for USC at times last year. I

583
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 2: just think with the right guy, maybe there's something there.

584
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think if there was anybody. Oh, here

585
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 2: was the other one, Connor Wagman Houston. Again, I don't

586
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 2: know if he's got any receivers to throw to. That

587
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 2: offensive line was truly heinous last year for Houston, arguably

588
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: one of like the three worst Power Conference offensive lines

589
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 2: in terms of protecting a quarterback. But I think the

590
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 2: natural talent and I've seen enough from Connor wag and

591
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 2: be like, if it's a better situation. They hired I

592
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 2: think LSU's tight ends coach as their new offensive coordinator,

593
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,479
Speaker 2: So they made a change there. They knew they had

594
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 2: to make a change. I just I want to believe, ty,

595
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 2: I want to believe. So that was I have a

596
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 2: couple of transfer answers, Nico and Aidan Chiles. I can't

597
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 2: quit him just yet.

598
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 3: Here's an interesting one, Dan, all right, Brian, what's the

599
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 3: most you'd pay for an in game regular season ticket.

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Speaker 2: An in season game, Yeah, in season game, So a

601
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 2: regular season ticket. What's the most you pay for a

602
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 2: big game? Two hundred dollars?

603
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: I go five?

604
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: You go five hundred dollars for a regular season game,

605
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 2: for a.

606
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: Big regular season game, yeah, I'd go five.

607
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: Like I would think about like Oregon hosting Ohio State

608
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 2: last season. And as fun as that is, it's hard

609
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: to justify if you're rooting for a team that has

610
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 2: a playoff shot and you're you're budgeting your cash to

611
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: be like, well, well what if you're not budgeting your

612
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 2: cash though, just if you know that your team is

613
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: likely not going to make a playoff, but it's a

614
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 2: huge game, it's at home. You like, you've got a

615
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 2: number in mind.

616
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 3: You've got a number in mind, and that's your buy

617
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 3: and you don't want to go over it. And it

618
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 3: doesn't have to be an actual budget, Like maybe you

619
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 3: can afford much more if you want to, but it's

620
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 3: just this is a number that's stuck in your craw

621
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 3: and you won't go over it.

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00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, two two fifty.

623
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Speaker 1: I think five's probably the upper limit.

624
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 3: I mean, oh man, you were with me in twenty twelve,

625
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 3: when it was Notre Dame against Miami and not regular season,

626
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 3: not regular season, but even still national championship game, could

627
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 3: have been lasso of the stadium for like nine hundred bucks.

628
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 3: And I looked at you and was like, I can't.

629
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 3: There's no way I can do that. I just can't do.

630
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: That, especially if an a an alternative would be go

631
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 2: to the game, sit in the parking lot and have

632
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 2: a giant TV at somebody you know has an RV

633
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 2: or something like that, and grow with your buddies for free.

634
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: The drop off there is a drop off, but the

635
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 2: drop off isn't dramatic enough for me to be like, yeah,

636
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 2: I'm disappointed.

637
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 3: I would be interested in knowing from people out there

638
00:32:58,400 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 3: what their limit.

639
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 2: Is BRANDT, Comma, Wallet Inspector.

640
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 3: No.

641
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: Well, I mean you.

642
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 3: Could be an honest if you want, but I want

643
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 3: to know what you'd be willing to pay. How much

644
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 3: have you paid right in order to get into some

645
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 3: of these big games. No judgment here, I'm just curious

646
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 3: to each his own. Let's go, We'll.

647
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: Do one more very quickly.

648
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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, are there any non college football questions? Are

649
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 2: we going to save that? What are we doing with those?

650
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 3: We can save some of those for one of our

651
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 3: bonus episodes. Okay, but I'm going to close out with this.

652
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Speaker 1: One that is tangentially related from d Smith.

653
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Speaker 2: Okay, your high school has decided.

654
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 3: To memorialize you as one of their great alumni for

655
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 3: all your accomplishments right there with you, yep. How are

656
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 3: you being honored a small bronze statue in the courtyard,

657
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 3: a glass cabinet in the entryway with articles and awards

658
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 3: in it next to your cardboard cutout. Or naming the

659
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 3: head of the English department after you. I'll have the

660
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Speaker 3: Andrew Luck, director of offense for Stanford's offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: Oh I see so a title, well, a title of

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Speaker 2: a person or a title of a department.

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Speaker 3: It's a title of whatever you want, Dan, How do

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Speaker 3: you want to be memorialized at Calabasas High Oh?

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Speaker 2: I want the courts. I want the tennis courts named

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Speaker 2: after me.

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Speaker 1: So what would be your preferred naming nomenclature?

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Speaker 2: It would be the Dan Rubenstein courts at the Valley

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Speaker 2: Circle Pizza Tennis Complex. No, I just Rubenstein courts. I

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Speaker 2: don't know. I don't even know if tennis courts at

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Speaker 2: a high school have a name other than those are

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Speaker 2: the tennis courts?

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Speaker 3: Well, they name them at my high school after a

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Speaker 3: longtime tennis coach.

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Speaker 1: They've named the football foot What.

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Speaker 2: Is it the courts? Is it like the Bill Johnson

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Speaker 2: tennis courts? How do they name it? Because usually there's

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Speaker 2: a stadium, right, it's like Louis Armstrong Stadium at the

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Speaker 2: US Open.

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Speaker 3: I think that's how they've done it. Yeah, they just

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Speaker 3: so and so tennis courts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would probably, I would assume that there's a

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Speaker 2: set tennis court at a high school. Like if you're

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Speaker 2: a basketball player, that's easy. For a football player, that's easy.

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Speaker 2: If you're you know, a star actor, then you have

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Speaker 2: like the Hugh Jackman Theater or something.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why.

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Speaker 3: What if you're a podcaster though, that's the question. Oh,

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Speaker 3: it's avroom a room Okay. We lobbied unsuccessfully when we

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Speaker 3: were in school and had accomplished nothing, my friends and

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Speaker 3: I within the Oregon Journalism Program to have Edit Bay

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Speaker 3: number two named after us, because we felt the documentary

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Speaker 3: that we edited was so pristine, sure that how could

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Speaker 3: you let this? How could you let Edit Bay number two?

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Speaker 3: I would as a joke.

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Speaker 2: Like okay, at Oregon specifically, it is very easy to

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Speaker 2: argue against that my career has had nothing to or

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Speaker 2: has is very easy to argue that my professional career

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Speaker 2: has had little to nothing to do with journalism. So

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Speaker 2: naming something after me within the journalism school seems kind

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Speaker 2: of funny. But if I could get a vending machine

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Speaker 2: or a water fountain, that would be kind of amazing.

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Speaker 1: A park bench or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if I could get like the Rubinstein snack corner

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Speaker 2: named after me, and like I think it's allan hall

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Speaker 2: still is what it's called where the J school is

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Speaker 2: at Oregon, Like some sort of like just plaque on

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Speaker 2: a vending machine, that would be great for me at

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Speaker 2: the J School. Editing bay might be a little bit

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Speaker 2: too far, but I would I would love an editing bay.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, a water fountain. A couch would be great.

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Speaker 2: Lobby couch, yeah, sit on the Rubenstein couch. Yeah, what

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Speaker 2: about you?

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Speaker 3: I just think some sort of bronzed microphone. I don't

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Speaker 3: necessarily need the cardboard cutout. So you want something for

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Speaker 3: your desk now, I want something that's like as he

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Speaker 3: said here in the glass cabinet. I want something in

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Speaker 3: the trophy case, maybe a picture of me and then

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Speaker 3: some sort of bronzed sure sm seven.

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Speaker 1: B adjacent to it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, believe it or not. I haven't given

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Speaker 2: a whole lot of thought to this. Oh I haven't either,

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Speaker 2: But if I were to give a bunch of thought

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Speaker 2: to it, I would say, I want to be there

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Speaker 2: for some kind of unveiling, which you can't really do

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Speaker 2: for a bronze microphone statue, pine glass, people just walk

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Speaker 2: by that whatever. But if there were a giant novelty

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Speaker 2: ribbon that I could cut in front of a vending

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Speaker 2: machine that had peanut butter m and ms, that would

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Speaker 2: go a long way for me, Like hire a photographer,

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Speaker 2: do the like really make a deal out of it?

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Speaker 2: A couch, a drinking fountain, a vending machine, an editing bay.

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Speaker 1: That to me, all right, well why don't we tennis court?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why don't.

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Speaker 1: We leave it there?

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Speaker 3: We appreciate everybody's thoughts, everybody's questions. Let us know via email,

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Speaker 3: via social platforms how you would choose to be memorialized. Also,

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Speaker 3: let us know how much you'd be willing to spend

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Speaker 3: on it. In game I keep calling in game, in

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Speaker 3: season ticket yes for your respective teamsliverble at gmail dot com,

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Speaker 3: or any of the social platforms made it this far,

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Speaker 3: Hit follow, hit subscribe, leave comments on the episode wherever

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Speaker 3: you can. We were recording this a little bit early

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Speaker 3: because we are going to spend some time hashing things

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Speaker 3: out in New York City what we've got planned for.

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Speaker 1: The next couple months or so.

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Speaker 3: Looking forward to seeing you Dan, as many people are

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Speaker 3: listening to this out on Patreon anyway, we are already

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Speaker 3: in the city. So with that being said, appreciate everybody's support.

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Speaker 3: As always for that guy over there.

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Speaker 1: My good friend Dan Ruvenstein Form myself Tie hilde Brand.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon and stay solid.

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Speaker 2: Peace,