WEBVTT - Kevin Owens Beat Down on Randy Orton, Justified?

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<v Speaker 1>No more unicorns, no more pancakes, no more bootios for

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<v Speaker 1>the crowd. For those of you who don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>bootios are, you think I'm very weird right now. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's a thing. But I disagree, and it's not because

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see them broken up. I disagree they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to break up. I think that all this has

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<v Speaker 1>been what a magician does, where he shows you something

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<v Speaker 1>shiny in the one hand, and in the other hand

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<v Speaker 1>is where the tricks actually happening. Now you're mad.

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<v Speaker 2>Even introducing the hosts, Wrestling Win, Freddy Jeff Died and

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<v Speaker 2>for ready friends, tunor What's Up?

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody? Welcome to a brand new episode of Wrestling with

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<v Speaker 1>Freddy Jeff Die as an assignment in the Great State

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<v Speaker 1>of Texas. So you're stuck with me. I can't see

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<v Speaker 1>crap today, so I'm wearing my glasses. Everyone bear with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start the show, all right, you guys. The year

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<v Speaker 1>is wrapping up, and this is my final episode from

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<v Speaker 1>the United States. I am flying to Australia the evening

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<v Speaker 1>this episode comes out, and I think maybe the next day,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I have to fly for like seventeen days.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's how long The trip is these days

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll land in Australia and I will continue to

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<v Speaker 1>podcast from there just for you guys, and I will

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<v Speaker 1>figure out how to watch all of the wrestling that

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<v Speaker 1>I need to watch so that I'm up to speed

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<v Speaker 1>and up to date. I hope all you guys are well.

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<v Speaker 1>I will do an update of my promotion on the

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday show on sanctioned Thursday, so stay tuned for that

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Hopefully I give you guys some exciting news

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<v Speaker 1>and I can't tell you everything yet, but I can

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<v Speaker 1>give you a little more tasty taste and other than that,

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<v Speaker 1>let's start the show Monday night raw. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>pre tape, but that's okay, guys, We're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>get mad at them. It was a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>fallout from Crown Jewel. Liv Morgan came out and they're

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<v Speaker 1>focusing much more on the Ring of Crown Jewel than

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<v Speaker 1>the title, which you guys know, I'm not a fan of.

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<v Speaker 1>But she had the ring, she was rocking it. She

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<v Speaker 1>bragged about hurt and Rhea Ripley. I can't believe he

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<v Speaker 1>is hurt again. Man. That's we barely got her back.

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<v Speaker 1>We barely got her back. And going anyway, she gets

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<v Speaker 1>interrupted by Jade Cargill. For a second, I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was just going to be Jade, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh shit, is she coming out? And then later in

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<v Speaker 1>the show, Bianca's gonna be like, yo, girl, why didn't

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<v Speaker 1>you tell me you were going out to child What's

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<v Speaker 1>But no, they didn't do that. Bianca and Jade both

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<v Speaker 1>came out before she gets too beefy. Adam Pierce came

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<v Speaker 1>out and kind of you know, squashed everything, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he said, we're going to have a fatal four way

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<v Speaker 1>for the number one contender for liv Morgan's World Championship,

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<v Speaker 1>not the crown drool thing. She gets to keep that.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody wants that anyway, So they have this match. And

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<v Speaker 1>here's here's my thing with Rhea Hurt. I believe the

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<v Speaker 1>plan is keep the belt on live for as long

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<v Speaker 1>as we She can act. She can wrestle, she can

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<v Speaker 1>do backstage segments, she can do in ring segments, she

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<v Speaker 1>can do cool entrances from the stairs where she was

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<v Speaker 1>you know, crying because Dom's saying I hate you and

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<v Speaker 1>all this stuff, like she can kind of do it

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<v Speaker 1>all right now. So I don't see the belt coming

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<v Speaker 1>off her, But Eo Sky wins this match because EO

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<v Speaker 1>can give us a great match. Everybody loves EO, But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think EO is winning the championship again because

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<v Speaker 1>there was no story, no build up, no anything for

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<v Speaker 1>her to get there. It was just an awesome four

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<v Speaker 1>way that she gets to go in now and feature

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<v Speaker 1>what she can do with them. Her acrobatics are awesome

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<v Speaker 1>and they're organic. It's not just flips for the sake

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<v Speaker 1>of flips. It's very lucha libre style, where it's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you tried to smash me on my head and I

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<v Speaker 1>just kept the momentum going and I landed on my

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<v Speaker 1>feet because I'm awesome. So I think their story got

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<v Speaker 1>screwed up and they're kind of winging it right now

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<v Speaker 1>and writing a new story while while EO and Live

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<v Speaker 1>have their little mini build up and then their match.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's give them some time to find a new

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<v Speaker 1>story for lim Moving on, Why can't I see today

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<v Speaker 1>because you're old Freddy? Oh yeah, that's why. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>put these back on. We're gonna talk new day. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been saying for a while, they've got some beef. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're watching the show, you know they got some beef,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of miscommunication, and a lot of people think

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to be the potential end of the

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<v Speaker 1>New Day, which would be very sad. No more unicorns,

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<v Speaker 1>no more pancakes, no more bootios for the crowd. For

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<v Speaker 1>those of you who don't know what bootios are, you

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm very weird right now. But it's a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But I disagree, and it's not because I want to

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<v Speaker 1>see them broken up. I disagree they're going to break up.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that all this has been what a magician does,

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<v Speaker 1>where he shows you something shiny in the one hand,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the other hand is where the trick's actually happening.

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<v Speaker 1>And all this drama and all this beefcake that Kofe

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<v Speaker 1>and Xavier are having is a distraction. And before they

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<v Speaker 1>actually break up or right after they break up, there's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be some glue that returns to the WWE

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<v Speaker 1>the largest what jar of glue in the world, and

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<v Speaker 1>that glue is named big Ee. And I think Big

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<v Speaker 1>Ee's coming back. And I think he's gonna Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>said it. I think he's coming back. I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna save the New Day from themselves, whether it's post

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<v Speaker 1>breakup or right before the breakup, and he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>bring them back together. He's like the Sun and they're

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<v Speaker 1>the planets, and they're going to gravitate around him and

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<v Speaker 1>start circling faster and faster until you know, the Earth

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<v Speaker 1>explodes and we all die. But I don't think they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to break up, or, like I said, if they do,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when Big Eel come in and be like, gentlemen, gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 1>what are we doing. We're brothers. We started this together,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna end it together, and they can go off

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<v Speaker 1>and get their stories. So that's what I think is

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen with the New Day, the Wyat six.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff really likes the Whitat six. I have not bought

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<v Speaker 1>into it it yet. I don't get it. I like

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<v Speaker 1>everyone involved. I like Bo Dallas, I like Eric Rowan,

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<v Speaker 1>I like Nikki and Nikki Cross. I don't know the

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<v Speaker 1>other guy. I think they're from NXT, Joe Gasey and

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<v Speaker 1>Dexter Loomis. I know a little bit from the creepy

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<v Speaker 1>stuff with Miz and they're doing a story with the

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<v Speaker 1>mis right now. But it's very This is where suspension

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<v Speaker 1>of disbelief gets hard, and it might be because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight years old, but kidnapping is a felony. You can't, can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't. The moment he was in a chair

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<v Speaker 1>and tied up, I'm like, wait a minute, what I

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<v Speaker 1>will say this. The motivation is honest and genuine. The

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<v Speaker 1>motivation of wanting Miss's head on a spike, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>Bo Dallas, is honest and organic because of the sort

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<v Speaker 1>of promise that was made in twenty seventeen, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make you a star, Bo Dallas. I think that was

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<v Speaker 1>NXT when they when the Superstars had mentors maybe or no,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was already over by then. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>was way over by then. But anyway, he's got beef

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<v Speaker 1>with him. Dexter Loomis for sure has beef with them,

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<v Speaker 1>already stalked him and made my might may have kidnapped

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<v Speaker 1>him already. But yeah, this one is always going to

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<v Speaker 1>be tricky for me. And it's weird because I really

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<v Speaker 1>do like everyone involved. I like Bo Dallas. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to Bo leave like back in the day on the

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<v Speaker 1>Black and Gold NXT. But yeah, so I'm not. If

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff was here, he would talk about how much he

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<v Speaker 1>loves it. But I just I don't want to. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not here to criticize it because I think they gave

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<v Speaker 1>it organic and honest motives, right like Bo has a

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<v Speaker 1>problem with him. I just don't quite always get the

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<v Speaker 1>story that they're trying to tell. But again, I'm old,

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<v Speaker 1>So what are you gonna do? We had a fatal

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<v Speaker 1>four way between Priest Damian Priest that is Dominic mysterio.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't call him dirty dom he's misunderstood victim in

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<v Speaker 1>all this Shamus, who you know, I love, and Seth

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<v Speaker 1>Rollins who wore big pointy spikey coat things. It's still

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<v Speaker 1>the best. They had a fight, they went to war.

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<v Speaker 1>Bronson Reed came out and said, screw your war, screw

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<v Speaker 1>your fight, screw you. You beat me, I'm gonna kill everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he did. Damian Priest wins. And now we're

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<v Speaker 1>in a situation where I think it's similar to the EO.

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<v Speaker 1>Sky Live Morgan situation unless they pressed pause on the

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<v Speaker 1>Damien Priest story. And that's the reason they're gonna They're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna give this another shot, which it doesn't feel like

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<v Speaker 1>that to me. It feels like they need someone who

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<v Speaker 1>looks like a legit contender to re establish Gunther or Gunther.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what he likes to be called Gunther

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<v Speaker 1>or Gunther, to re establish after that loss at Crown Jewel,

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<v Speaker 1>that he's the man. I don't. I've said I said

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<v Speaker 1>this before. I think in our in our prediction show,

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<v Speaker 1>not prediction show, but you know, our our future of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five show. I don't see gnther losing unless

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<v Speaker 1>and I've used this example multiple times. The only way

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<v Speaker 1>I can see it working is if it goes back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth, back and forth, back and forth. Priestthood, the

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<v Speaker 1>priest good, and everybody else is like, yo, we want

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<v Speaker 1>our shot, and they're like, yo, screw you. Every once

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<v Speaker 1>while there's a triple threat, they get a triple threat,

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<v Speaker 1>they get squashed, and then you know, Gunther a priest

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<v Speaker 1>WinCE again. But I think this is to make Gunther

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<v Speaker 1>look good. Both guys are going to look good, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's to make the champ re establish him as the

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<v Speaker 1>champ because now there's like, you know, this, this fracture

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<v Speaker 1>in his armor, and we need to seal that fracture

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<v Speaker 1>up and make him strong again. So I don't and again,

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<v Speaker 1>without the story, it's hard for me to believe that

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<v Speaker 1>the other man can win. Moving on to Friday nights, Maxim,

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<v Speaker 1>There's really only one story in wrestling that matters right now,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, and that's the Bloodline. And rather than sit

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<v Speaker 1>here and shower it with praise, which we'll give it

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<v Speaker 1>some flowers, I'm not criticizing at all. It's the best

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<v Speaker 1>storyline in wrestling, But everybody's talking that. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about how it's so good it's making us almost

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<v Speaker 1>forget about the world champion Cody Rhodes. His story is

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<v Speaker 1>what now are they writing it? Is it going to

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<v Speaker 1>be Kevin Owens? Is Kevin and Randy are trying to

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<v Speaker 1>kill each other? We'll get into that. Are they building

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<v Speaker 1>up Kevin to give him a new run at the

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<v Speaker 1>title where he's not friends, where he won't show mercy

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<v Speaker 1>like he did in Germany? I believe it was. But

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<v Speaker 1>the Bloodline as is right now might be better than

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<v Speaker 1>it's ever been. I know you're going to argue that

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<v Speaker 1>Sammy's ain babyface turn is the greatest part of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and you might be right, But the amount of people

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<v Speaker 1>getting over now and the amount of people being featured

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<v Speaker 1>now is so much greater than originally constructed that. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't see how you could pick the Sammy's Ain moment

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<v Speaker 1>because we have more Sammy. But now we have this

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<v Speaker 1>sort of renegade bloodline where Jacob Fatu is cutting backstage

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<v Speaker 1>promos now and looking like a stud while he's doing

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<v Speaker 1>it and letting Roman Reigns know Leo Solo, so Co

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't operate on your schedule, you operate on his schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>And he came off super clean. Clean isn't good? I

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<v Speaker 1>know he looks gritty and mean, but the promo is clean.

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<v Speaker 1>But he lets us know that Solo will be out

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<v Speaker 1>there later. Later that night, Solo comes out and he's

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<v Speaker 1>starting to expand his his toolbox as far as his

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<v Speaker 1>mic work goes, and Roman interrupts him and comes out

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<v Speaker 1>and starts talking, and Solo you see him trying new

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<v Speaker 1>stuff and experimenting with new stuff. He's getting he's laughing

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<v Speaker 1>in his face more, he's he's he's being more colorful

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<v Speaker 1>with his with his sentence construction. He's trying new things,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden he's as war games, which

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<v Speaker 1>this was weird, I thought, because Solo just beat Roman,

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<v Speaker 1>so I thought Roman should have been the one that

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<v Speaker 1>challenged Solo at war Games, but instead it went the

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<v Speaker 1>other way around, where Solo's like, yo, I want more

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<v Speaker 1>of you. I didn't get enough the first time. So

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<v Speaker 1>that was the only thing that was a little weird

0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:18.600
<v Speaker 1>to me, But all the performances were super solid. So

0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:21.319
<v Speaker 1>they established we're gonna have war games and it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be five on five and you can't find four other guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and Roman's like, yo, can you not do math? There's

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<v Speaker 1>only four of you, And so I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can do Mathew, asshole, and don't ever insult me

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<v Speaker 1>my math skills again. I got straight. A's our fifth

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<v Speaker 1>is Sammy's Ain, And Sammy's ain comes out and he

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<v Speaker 1>looks pissed and sad. I remember, all these characters have

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<v Speaker 1>different motivations, and Sammy basically said to Roman like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to apologize if you want me to work

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<v Speaker 1>with you. And Roman was like, apologize to you, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>you hit me in the back with a steel chair.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like nah, dude to j and the whole and

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<v Speaker 1>Roman wouldn't do it because he's arrogant, And throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>show they show backstage segments where that arrogance is isolating

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<v Speaker 1>him more and more he lost Jimmy, and he loses Jay,

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<v Speaker 1>then he loses or sorry, he lost Sammy. Then he

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<v Speaker 1>loses j Then he loses Jimmy, and he acts like

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't care. And then when they leave, you can

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<v Speaker 1>see he's like, shit, do I care? I don't freaking know.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes out there all alone by himself. They're beating

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<v Speaker 1>him down, and then the USOS come out when Sammy's

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<v Speaker 1>there and they're like, yo, forget you Sammy. They go out,

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<v Speaker 1>they fight, they get beat down. Solo's about to kill Roman.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, Sammy, no, you do it. You come in here,

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<v Speaker 1>you do it, and Sammy goes in the ring. Then

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<v Speaker 1>he goes to dous halluva kick and it's one hell

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<v Speaker 1>of a kick. I said, dad, joke, I'm allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>do those. I'm a dad. And he kicks Solo instead

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<v Speaker 1>of Roman, and all of a sudden, they have this

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<v Speaker 1>great moment without dialogue after they clear the ring where

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy's standing behind Sammy. Sorry, Jay is standing behind Sammy

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<v Speaker 1>and Jimmy's standing behind Roman and Jay puts his finger up,

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<v Speaker 1>we're the ones they used to do that for those

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<v Speaker 1>of you whore just tuning into wrestling and then Jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>sees his brother and he's like, we are the Ones,

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<v Speaker 1>and he puts his right hand up. They always do

0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:15.760
<v Speaker 1>it with their right hand. They're super smart, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>always synchronizing. Looks cool. And then Sammy and Roman get

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<v Speaker 1>kind of face to face and Sammy's like, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do this again? You want this? I'm putting up

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<v Speaker 1>the one and the crowd goes crazy. They're all screaming

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<v Speaker 1>because they want this reunification of the original bloodline, and

0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Roman looks at him and he can see the crowd

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<v Speaker 1>wants it, and then Roman goes, you're goddamn right, we

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<v Speaker 1>are the ones, and they all put up the ones

0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:43.800
<v Speaker 1>and the crowd goes crazy because we got the original

0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:46.480
<v Speaker 1>bloodline back and the bloodline is going to take on

0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:50.600
<v Speaker 1>the new bloodline at walk Games. As Sir William Raegl

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<v Speaker 1>would say, So SmackDown is still the best wrestling show

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<v Speaker 1>on television and that's all you need to freaking know. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk Randy Orton and Kevin Owen. This rivalry will

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<v Speaker 1>probably end with Kevin going over as the jerkface butthole

0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:12.880
<v Speaker 1>heel that he will certainly be, But I have a

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<v Speaker 1>different take on this as well. You guys, I know

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of you are upset with Kevin Owens right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he's a jerk. And you know that

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<v Speaker 1>Randy has a bad back, and you're just going to

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<v Speaker 1>hit him with a pile driver. That's a terrible thing

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<v Speaker 1>to do. But let me tell you something, you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to take you back over ten years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I think to an episode of Monday Night Raw in

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Louis, Missouri, back when they had this terrible idea

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<v Speaker 1>of having a special guest general managers with no experience

0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:44.960
<v Speaker 1>in general management, but because they were famous actors or musicians,

0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:47.800
<v Speaker 1>they got to be it for a night, just for

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<v Speaker 1>one night, and they got to screw up the whole show. Well,

0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:54.440
<v Speaker 1>yours truly was one of them. And I know what

0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:56.640
<v Speaker 1>you're saying, Freddy. You weren't just one of them. You

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<v Speaker 1>were the best of them. And I appreciate that's a

0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:01.680
<v Speaker 1>nice thing to say right now. I appreciate it a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, that's not the point. The point is Randy

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<v Speaker 1>Orton didn't want me there that night, and he let

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<v Speaker 1>me know, and I kind of gave him a little

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<v Speaker 1>attitude and I turned my back on him because I

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<v Speaker 1>was naive and foolish and didn't think he was his

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<v Speaker 1>dirty snake in the grass. And he grabbed me from behind.

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<v Speaker 1>He put his arm across my throat. He slid in

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<v Speaker 1>behind me and he broke my back with a modified backbreaker,

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<v Speaker 1>and it hurt, and I grimaced. Not like the fat

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<v Speaker 1>guy from McDonald's. It hurt. It was a painful grin,

0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:41.680
<v Speaker 1>a grimace, and I was dragged out. It took me

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<v Speaker 1>years to recover. And I texted Kevin Owens, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>the next part of the story is not true. I

0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:49.920
<v Speaker 1>texted Kevin Owens and I said, look, man, I know

0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:53.480
<v Speaker 1>you're a good guy, but if you could just flip

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<v Speaker 1>it in Germany and then when you come back to

0:16:57.160 --> 0:17:00.320
<v Speaker 1>the States kind of maintain it, and then on a

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<v Speaker 1>Friday night, smack sound, just smash smash his neck. And

0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Kevin said, don't call it smack sound, show some freaking respect.

0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:09.760
<v Speaker 1>I said, okay, I'm sorry, said, if you're on SmackDown,

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<v Speaker 1>could you please hit him with the pile driver and

0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:14.920
<v Speaker 1>tell him that it's from Freddy. I'm sure you guys

0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:16.800
<v Speaker 1>saw you guys can all read lips. Now you guys

0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:19.240
<v Speaker 1>saw him say it and it was a beautiful moment

0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:22.080
<v Speaker 1>for me and my family. We all watched together by

0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:28.119
<v Speaker 1>the fire. We had cocoa and toasted marshmallows. Again, a

0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:31.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of this story is not true, not the marshmallow

0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:35.960
<v Speaker 1>part anyway. We don't have any of those. But Randy's

0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:38.440
<v Speaker 1>hurt and Kevin Owens is going to be a made

0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:40.480
<v Speaker 1>man and is going to be the top heel. Is

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<v Speaker 1>he going to be the top heel on SmackDown or

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<v Speaker 1>is that going to be solo Socoa? I guess it

0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:59.000
<v Speaker 1>depends who wins that Survivor series. Let's move on, people

0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:03.639
<v Speaker 1>to ae W. They have not had the type of

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<v Speaker 1>long term storytelling that WWE has had. The last time

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<v Speaker 1>they had some real long term storytelling I think was

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<v Speaker 1>probably Max and Adam before Adam got hurt. That said,

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to tell some stories now, and they brought

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<v Speaker 1>in a man who is a masterful storyteller, an MVP,

0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:27.320
<v Speaker 1>and two masterful wrestlers and Bobby Lashley and Shelton Benjamin

0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:30.520
<v Speaker 1>and MVP can speak for both of these men, although

0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:33.440
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have to, but he is the perfect mouthpiece

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<v Speaker 1>in wrestling right now. He's clear, he delivers the message,

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<v Speaker 1>he can do it. Backstage, he can do it center

0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:44.040
<v Speaker 1>of the ring. You heard the crowd channing MVP. MVP.

0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:47.120
<v Speaker 1>He tells Tony Shavani, don't be rude. That people are

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<v Speaker 1>talking right now, so he can improvise as well. And

0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:56.440
<v Speaker 1>they let Swerve Strickland know that they wanted to be friends.

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<v Speaker 1>But he rejected that card, that business card. And when

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<v Speaker 1>you get a busy, this car from the Hurt Business,

0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:03.359
<v Speaker 1>you better respect it or you're going to be their enemy.

0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:07.919
<v Speaker 1>Swerve Stricklands have none of it. He comes out and

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<v Speaker 1>you'd think he he'd have a lot to say, a

0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:13.760
<v Speaker 1>lot to say, but on this night he was a

0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:17.639
<v Speaker 1>man of few words and he just came out and

0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:22.240
<v Speaker 1>he straight up challenged him full gear, which is all

0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:25.520
<v Speaker 1>they wanted. Because it's three on one, it's MVP, it's Shelton,

0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:29.720
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's Bobby Lashley. There could be more people coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember they were messing with Ricochet backstage. I don't think

0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Ricochet would be the one that would join the Hurt Business.

0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:37.400
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't seem to fit. But his surprise tag team

0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:41.040
<v Speaker 1>partner Powerhouse Hobbs. Hello, you don't think he'd be a

0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:43.840
<v Speaker 1>perfect fit. You don't think he could turn on Ricochet

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<v Speaker 1>and then join the Hurt business and that was like,

0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:49.520
<v Speaker 1>that was the angle that they were working. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of room for big, badass dudes in this

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<v Speaker 1>in this new faction. And again, as long as they're

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to tell the stories that they're trying to t

0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:03.720
<v Speaker 1>and they allow these to be stretched out and build

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<v Speaker 1>this group up and not bring this group down, then

0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:10.040
<v Speaker 1>you can build up your long term storytelling ability. You

0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:12.200
<v Speaker 1>just have to have the right people. Don Kallis is

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<v Speaker 1>a good manager, and they featured him so much, and

0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:18.720
<v Speaker 1>the more they featured and the better he got. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I talk about managers a lot, but I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lost art form and I love when people utilize them.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they have another manager and MVP, they have both

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<v Speaker 1>these guys that can help tell stories. Not every wrestler

0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:30.400
<v Speaker 1>is going to be Morland Friggin brand or I guess

0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:33.080
<v Speaker 1>people don't know who he is anymore. A Robert Downey junior, now,

0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:34.479
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. Like, they're not all going

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<v Speaker 1>to be Denzel Washington. You know, sometimes they're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>who they are and they need help telling that story.

0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:43.280
<v Speaker 1>And that's what managers can do. So I love this

0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:47.200
<v Speaker 1>for everybody at AEW, anyone they're interacting with. I love

0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:49.879
<v Speaker 1>it for Swerve, love it for Bobby Lashley, and I'm

0:20:49.920 --> 0:20:52.960
<v Speaker 1>glad to see him managers getting used. A team that

0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:57.080
<v Speaker 1>does not need a manager is the newly branded Death Writers,

0:20:57.119 --> 0:21:01.600
<v Speaker 1>formerly known as the Blackpool Combat clubing blackpooled about them anymore.

0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Regal's been gone forever, Daniel Brian's been exercised from the group,

0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:10.439
<v Speaker 1>so they've renamed themselves organically the death Rids. It's a

0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:12.960
<v Speaker 1>great way to get more merch. They've been starting beef

0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:16.639
<v Speaker 1>with Orange Cassidy, the Squalls in One and Darby Allen,

0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:18.920
<v Speaker 1>who makes his debut each week from a different area

0:21:18.920 --> 0:21:21.560
<v Speaker 1>in the arena. This week he jumped off the entrance.

0:21:21.640 --> 0:21:24.080
<v Speaker 1>It was pretty sick. Sometimes he's lowered in like a

0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:26.600
<v Speaker 1>like a worm on a hook, and other times he

0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:30.080
<v Speaker 1>just rushes in from the crowd. But one of these

0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:34.720
<v Speaker 1>guys has to be being built up to become the

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<v Speaker 1>next champion or are they or are these guys sacrificial

0:21:38.400 --> 0:21:41.040
<v Speaker 1>lambs that are going to establish Moxley as the man

0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:43.680
<v Speaker 1>and we're waiting for someone else to take that spot.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of the times where I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a guess. I just don't. I'll make predictions when they

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<v Speaker 1>have a pay per view on who I think is

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<v Speaker 1>going to win, But in a conversational format like this,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know which one of them is ready. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if one of them is more ready than

0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:04.200
<v Speaker 1>the other. I think they're about the same on the mic,

0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:06.520
<v Speaker 1>even though Orange Cassidy's gimmick as he doesn't talk on

0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:08.920
<v Speaker 1>the mic, which I think is genius, so when he does,

0:22:09.000 --> 0:22:13.879
<v Speaker 1>it means something. Both guys can wrestle. Both are smaller guys.

0:22:13.960 --> 0:22:16.680
<v Speaker 1>AW has a lot of smaller guys and features them.

0:22:16.880 --> 0:22:18.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a hater on the smaller guys. I grew

0:22:18.760 --> 0:22:21.360
<v Speaker 1>up watching original UFCS and watched a guy named Hoys

0:22:21.400 --> 0:22:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Gracie tap out guys that were one hundred and fifty

0:22:23.600 --> 0:22:27.000
<v Speaker 1>pounds bigger than him. Smaller guys can win fights, So

0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:32.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think John Moxley so perfect in

0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:37.040
<v Speaker 1>this model that he's presented that I don't want to

0:22:37.080 --> 0:22:41.240
<v Speaker 1>see it lose yet. So I don't know if if

0:22:41.280 --> 0:22:43.440
<v Speaker 1>either of these guys can win, at least not yet.

0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:47.560
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you sacrifice one over the next eight weeks, and

0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:50.560
<v Speaker 1>over those eight weeks, you're building the other, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you add another two months to that, so it's like

0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:56.119
<v Speaker 1>a four month run for Darby or the schools in

0:22:56.200 --> 0:22:58.960
<v Speaker 1>one for them to then climb that mountain and get in.

0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:01.440
<v Speaker 1>So at least another six months, right, you guys want

0:23:01.440 --> 0:23:03.359
<v Speaker 1>to see that too, at least another six months of

0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:06.840
<v Speaker 1>John Moxley, I think, so, I don't. I wish I could.

0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:08.520
<v Speaker 1>I wish I could give you guys a better guess,

0:23:08.520 --> 0:23:11.760
<v Speaker 1>but I just can't. Anyway, John Moxley's awesome. That's all

0:23:11.800 --> 0:23:16.320
<v Speaker 1>you guys need to know. Another. I want to go

0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:22.199
<v Speaker 1>back to WWE real quick. What's Coody Road's story gonna be?

0:23:22.720 --> 0:23:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Is it gonna be Kevin? Because it's weird that the

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<v Speaker 1>Universal Champion, I don't like that term Universal champion, the

0:23:29.720 --> 0:23:35.439
<v Speaker 1>ww Champion. It's weird to me that that story line

0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:40.879
<v Speaker 1>isn't as relevant as the bloodline story. It's weird that

0:23:40.920 --> 0:23:43.280
<v Speaker 1>it would take a back seat to that. And I

0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:47.040
<v Speaker 1>don't know if it can get in the front seat now.

0:23:47.040 --> 0:23:50.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it can ride Shotgun because there's

0:23:50.600 --> 0:23:53.879
<v Speaker 1>just not enough room in the car. There's gonna be

0:23:53.920 --> 0:23:55.720
<v Speaker 1>eight guys in this case. They got to have a

0:23:55.760 --> 0:23:58.680
<v Speaker 1>minivan in order to get to these pay per views.

0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:01.399
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's it's so many of them, and so

0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:05.399
<v Speaker 1>many of them are doing well that I don't know

0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:09.960
<v Speaker 1>if we I don't like saying we care, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if we care as much about the

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<v Speaker 1>World Championship as we do about who's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the tribal chief. And that's good and bad. Right, It's

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<v Speaker 1>excellent storytelling on one hand, But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>is it okay to sacrifice the champs story for the

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<v Speaker 1>story that everyone is committed to. It's a tough question

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<v Speaker 1>that that they have to ask themselves, probably every single week.

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<v Speaker 1>But if it is Kevin, they can make that go

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. Kevin is a top dude. Kevin's a

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<v Speaker 1>guy I could see winning the belt. We mentioned it

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<v Speaker 1>going back and forth so many times. You never want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear me say it again, so I won't, but

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<v Speaker 1>I could see it go back and forth. All Right,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, everybody stay tuned for Unsanctioned Thursdays. I'll give

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of an update on the promotion, talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you guys about Australia and podcasting from out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll get more into wrestling other goodies as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned. Make sure you guys always check us out

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<v Speaker 1>show Wrestling with Freddy and stop hassling our nice producer Alex.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a good guy. Be nice to Alex because we are.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned on behalf of Jeff I who's on assignment

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<v Speaker 1>in the Great State of Texas. I'm Freddy Prince Jr.

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