WEBVTT - Infielder ADP Battles: Derek VanRiper vs. Jeff Erickson (Ep. 937) 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:08.240 What's going on? Everybody. Welcome into Fantasy Pros. This is 0:00:08.280 --> 0:00:11.520 the Fantasy Baseball Podcast. I'm your host, Joe Rico, and 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:14.760 today we're bringing you part two in our ADP Battle series. 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:16.600 If you missed Pitchers last week, be sure to check 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:19.159 it out. We are moving into the infield today, going 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:22.120 to bring you guys two battles at each position, including catcher, 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:23.920 for a total of ten. And we have a couple 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:26.759 of fantastic guests on the show. You're definitely familiar with 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:29.320 both of their work, Derek Van Riper from The Athletic 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:32.240 and Jeff Erickson from Roda Wire Fellas. I really appreciate 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:33.800 you taking the time today. How's it going. 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:36.159 It's going great. Thanks for having us on. 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:40.880 Absolutely can't wait to battle here with Derek fight No. 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:43.959 Very excited about this. You know, it's been a long 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:45.960 time since Derek and I used to do pods together, 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:48.000 so it should be fun to do one together for 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:48.400 a while. 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:50.280 Yeah, that was part of the reason when I was 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:52.080 pairing people up for this, I thought, okay, you guys 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:54.040 know each other. We were We took a car ride 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:55.880 together in Arizona to go down to one of the games. 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:57.920 I forget which one it was. But you guys know 0:00:58.000 --> 0:00:59.360 each other. We've been familiar with each other for a 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:01.440 couple of years, and I don't think there's anybody really 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:04.440 better to start breaking down these ADPs. We're going to 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:06.559 start behind the dish and we're gonna work our way 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:09.080 around the diamond. We're going to kick things off here 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:12.319 with Salvador Perez and cal Rawley, and I'm using the 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:16.480 Fantasy Pros Consensus ADP. There will be some differences depending 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:18.800 on which platform you are drafting on. Of course, if 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:20.479 it's a points league head to head roto, there will 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:23.200 be some differences. But I did try to capture battles 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:27.040 that are generally about the same on each site. So DVR, 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:29.080 let's start with you on this one, Salvi Perez and 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:31.319 cal Rawley, which one have you been landing on more? 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:32.480 If you're landing on either of them? 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:34.959 Yeah, I don't land on them very often, but it 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:37.320 would be Sal for me. I think there's a chance 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:38.960 he slips every now and then you get into a 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:41.320 room where everybody just writes them off because he's old. 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:43.160 But the thing that makes me a little more confident 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:45.800 in Sal is that the batting average downside is a 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:48.520 lot lower, and they're both high volume catchers. Sal doesn't 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:50.360 catch as much as he used to thanks to Freddy 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:52.880 for meen. But when you talk about high volume catchers, 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:55.200 that's when the batting average liabilities become more of a 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:57.240 problem for me. For the guys that share the job, 0:01:57.280 --> 0:01:58.880 I don't care if they hit two ten or two twenty, 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:00.720 because you're not taking on as much dead weight in 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:02.960 that category. So I wanted to give up a little 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:04.920 bit of power, maybe a little bit of run production, 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:08.440 and go the route of salth Perez. I'm choosing from 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:10.400 this bucket, but I've found that more often than not, 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:12.760 I mean, they're investing earlier or I'm waiting a little 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:14.560 bit longer to get that catcher one. These are two 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:16.239 guys that I've generally steered away from. 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:19.000 Yeah, you broke my heart and Labor. You did go 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:22.440 early on William Contreras at three five. I would have 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:25.560 taken him there in that draft just last Tuesday, Derek. 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:28.840 But I do land on these guys a couple of times. 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:30.440 But I think you make a really good point about 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:32.200 the batting average, and in fact, that's one thing I've 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:35.320 been kind of trying to tweak my valuation system is 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:37.560 to account better for batting average, because I found myself 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:40.560 in this particular draft, I took cal rally, and I 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:42.919 found myself chasing batting average for the next like eight 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:46.000 rounds because of the amount of bat Betsy gets in 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:49.200 because two twenties in play. So you know, I was 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:51.480 aware of it enough to not take Kyle Schwarber. In 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:53.600 a number of leagues, I always take our ozuna or 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:56.720 a rooker instead, But I need to pay a little 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:58.360 bit more attention to that. I feel like there. So 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:01.680 if you look right now in retiwar my rankings probably 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:04.280 have Rally ahead of Salby, But I think I want 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:05.959 to do it the other way around in my next draft. 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:08.960 Yeah, I think that's totally fair. I think the Royals 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:10.560 are going to be very careful with South to try 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:12.200 and keep him healthy. He's going to get more first 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:15.000 base in DH days, as for Mean gets more time 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:18.360 behind the dish, and with Raley, the lineup is not 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:21.240 good against Seattle, and on top of that, the ballpark 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:24.480 is a serious detriment. So I don't know. There's been 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:26.960 talk about the batter's eye getting changed, but I don't 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:28.720 think that's happening this season. I think that might be 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:30.320 something that they do in future years. Have you guys 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:32.400 heard anything along those lines, because early in the offseason 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:34.880 there was a lot of talk about potentially making it 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:36.840 a bit of a more hitter friendly park, but I 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:38.280 haven't heard much about that in a while. 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:41.640 I haven't seen any follow ups indicating that it's going 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:44.680 into effect this year. We've talked about it on Rates 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:47.400 and Barrels a few times. The center field wall is 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:51.280 not like straight on with home plates slightly angled. There's 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:53.360 some issues with the sun at different times of day. 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:57.480 The environment itself, just the atmospheric conditions aren't conducive to 0:03:57.480 --> 0:03:59.400 the ball flying in that park. It's a little bit 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:02.040 of everything. It also seems like it's worse on righties 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:04.640 than lefties too, so that's something I've tried to factor 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:07.200 into my overall analysis of hitters. It's a lot worse 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:09.040 for guys going into that park for the first time 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:11.280 as opposed to players that have been there for multiple years. 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:13.240 So I do worry about the park as far as 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:15.320 like a secondary effect on Raleigh because it seems like 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:18.520 for the most part, he's adapted well enough. And look, 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:21.440 I mean for catchers easily the most power in the 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:24.560 pool ninety one homers the last three seasons sALS second 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:26.479 was seventy three, So you are getting that sort of 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:29.400 Schwarberian boost behind the plate, but it comes with that. 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:33.640 Risk absolutely, and to your point too, like Seattle, they 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:36.920 know they have this world class rotation, they know they 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:39.279 have this known deficiency in terms of the batting eye, 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:41.320 they know they have this lineup that really struggled to 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:43.920 score runs, so they probably did nothing this offseason. I 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:45.480 am heads up to them for that. 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:49.279 Horiy Polanco being your key acquisition, I guess him returning 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:51.479 is not enough. I thought Pete Alonzo was going to 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:53.040 Seattle for sure. They had a bit of an opening. 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:57.280 At first, I thought it made sense, but yeah, the 0:04:57.360 --> 0:05:00.800 bitching is unimbeachable. Five guys. You can probably take those 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:02.599 five rotation names and throw them at a wall, and 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:05.800 however you arrange them, you could live with it. But yeah, 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:07.600 the lineup does leave something to be desired. So I 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:10.000 think it's unanimous there on Salvi Perez, not much of 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:11.640 a battle there to start off. Well, let's see if 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:13.080 I can put these two against each other on the 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:15.760 next one, and that's JT. Real Mudo and Logan o'hapi 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:18.800 roughly around pick one sixty. Again, this will vary a 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:20.680 little bit, but this has been a decision I've had 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:22.760 to make a couple times in my drafts. Jeff, let's 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:24.760 start with you on this one, between real Mudo and 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:25.560 Logan o'hapy. 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:28.560 I might be out of out of line on this one, 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:32.760 but it's clearly Ohappy for me. With real Muto, so 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:35.200 much of his value is generated from a speed. They're 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:38.599 talking so much about playing him less this year. I'd 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:40.640 rather take the guy in the Rise of Ohapi, who 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:43.120 I understand has some known deficiencies. He's not gonna run 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:45.440 a whole lot either, but I'm not counting on that necessarily. 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:48.760 I am looking at the power, the power ability from him. 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:51.480 I think there's some days there's gonna be a twenty 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:54.280 five homer season from Ohapi. I'm going Ohapi here. 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:59.320 I like Logan o'happy too. I mean, I think, if 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:02.039 I'm choosing straight, I'm with Jeff o'hapis the way to go. 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:05.279 I do think the demise of jt Reel Mudo is 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:08.680 being overstated in some circles. At least, I think the 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:10.880 batting average floor for the position is still high. Even 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:12.040 if he's going to give up a little bit of 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:14.280 playing time, he's still going to probably be top ten, 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:17.080 top twelve and played appearances For a catcher, I'd be 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:19.320 surprised if we dipped more than that. Even in a 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:21.120 down year last year, we still had a double digit 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:23.680 barrel rate, So he's making enough hard contact to get 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:26.279 to the power. I think it's twenty homers and a 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:28.679 good batting average with good run production because of the lineup. 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:30.280 But I think the stolen bases used to get from 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:33.840 jt Reel Mudo those days are probably over. Like fifteen 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:36.320 plus steals seems unlikely. You're probably getting five to seven 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:39.520 bags over a healthy full season if that. So we're 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:42.360 seeing him age pretty gracefully. I think the injury last 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:44.479 year makes it look a little worse than it really was, 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:47.600 and some of that may have just been also compounded 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:50.040 by year over year workloads, working a ton in the 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:52.040 regular season and going to the playoffs, and maybe that 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:54.120 was starting to take its toll a bit in twenty 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:55.880 twenty four on jt Reil Mudo. 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:59.920 Yeah, I understand both sides of the real Mudo coin. 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:02.240 The barrel rate, like you said, was still in double digits. 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:05.159 The sprint speed was still seventy eighth percentile. I don't 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:07.720 think Garrett Stubbs is gonna you know, take over catch 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:10.080 and partial like maybe he gets the odd day here 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:11.840 and there, but I don't think he's gonna lose a 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:14.080 ton of playing time. But I think still when you 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:16.280 look at the Angels lineup and o'hapy, a lot of 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:18.560 it depends on if Mike Trout stays healthy. But I 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:20.720 think that lineup is kind of underrated a little bit 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:23.680 this season. Again, if Shrow get hurt gets hurt, all 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:26.480 bets are off. But I think o'hapy is probably the 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:28.800 way I would lean. I had been kind of, you know, 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:30.480 going back and forth between the two of them, but 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:33.040 I think you fellas have talked me into the logan o' 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:35.440 hoppy side a little bit here Before we keep it 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:36.720 going on, I'll give you guys a bit of a 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.040 heads up. We have a great giveaway going on, a 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:42.880 John Smoltz signed Braves jersey. Just a fantastic giveaway from 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:45.280 our friends over at Pristine auction dot com. 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But DVR, 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:15.680 I'll let you start off with this one. 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:19.360 I like Walker as well. I think with Josh Naylor, 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:21.920 one thing that's overlooked is the difficulty of hitting for 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:24.480 power on the left side at Chase Field. It is 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:26.760 one of the worst park factors for left handed homers. 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:29.000 Leaving Cleveland, I think he ends up going from kind 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:31.480 of a neutral, maybe slightly above average park to actually 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:34.040 a well below average one in that regard, I think 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:36.280 Naylor is a good, solid all around player. I think 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:39.080 the thing I've always liked about him high batting average floor, 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:41.040 not a lot of swing and miss in his profile. 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:44.080 All of that's still true. He's not a particularly great runner, 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:46.360 So you look at the run count from last year, 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:48.559 eighty four seems like a high water mark, even though 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:50.560 he's going into a better lineup. So I do think 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:53.080 he's going to take a step back from a power perspective. 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:55.680 I think that's where That's where my main issue lies 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:57.959 with Josh Naylor. It's just like a little bit worse 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:00.360 across the board and being in a more difficult spot. 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:02.880 I think it's like a bounce back an average, but 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:05.120 at the expense of maybe five to seven homers. 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:08.200 Yeah, that's totally fair. I mean, Christian Walker's batt at 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:10.760 Baldata is still so good. Going to the Crawford boxes 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:13.840 is definitely appealing. Are you on the same side there, Jeff, I. 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:16.600 Like them both. I think both of these guys are 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:19.559 targets for me. Slight worry for me about Walker is 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:21.760 the age. You know a lot of times first Baseman 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:23.679 kind of fall off a cliff at thirty three, thirty 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:25.920 four years old. You know, I don't think this is 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:28.520 going to be jose A braw two point zero or 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:31.760 anything like that for Houston, but I got a smidge 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:33.480 of a concern there. You know he's starting to miss 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:36.000 more time due to injuries, had the oblique injury last year, 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:39.800 But overall, I think you're right. I like Naylor though, 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:43.800 because what he loses for loses out on a park, 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:46.240 I think he gains in lineup. I think he joins 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:48.240 an Arizona lineup that just is going to score a 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:49.839 ton of runs this year, so I think his counting 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:52.480 stats are going to remain pretty steady. You may lose 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:54.000 you trade a couple of homers for a couple of 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:56.240 points of average, I think it'll all kind of wash out. 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:57.319 So I like them both this year. 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:00.440 Yeah, Arizona. I don't think a lot of people would 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:02.040 be aware of just thinking about it. They would probably 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:04.080 say the Dodgers or the Yankees maybe, but Arizona had 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:05.880 more runs than any other team in Major League Baseball 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:08.600 last season. With Corbyn Carroll kind of struggling for half 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:10.120 of the season, he still ended up with one hundred 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:13.000 and twenty of them. So definitely a prolific offense there. 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:15.360 I like both of these players. I think i'd probably 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:18.679 lean slightly to more towards Walker. I've heard it. I 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:20.680 forget who exactly was, and I'm sorry for not giving 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:23.559 them credit. But when you compare Christian Walker's profile to 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:27.120 Mattelson Pete Alonso, there's a lot of similarities there that 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:29.520 you can kind of just get this same guy who 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:31.280 is maybe not exactly the same, but thirty home or 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.199 one hundred RBI potential several rounds later. So that's kind 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:36.360 of the narrative I've bought into with Christian Walker. The 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:38.760 age does worry me a little bit, but I think 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:42.400 he is really interesting this upcoming season. These two are 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:44.760 going neck and neck on a lot of NFBC drafts, 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:47.679 going on to the next battle here, Vinnie pas Quentino 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:50.640 and Tristan Casses. A lot of the time these two 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:52.360 are neck and neck and the ADP and on the 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:54.720 draft boards they'll be right beside each other. Jeff, we'll 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:57.160 start with you on this one. Any concern with the 0:10:57.200 --> 0:10:58.880 bit of the circus that seems to be developing in 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:02.040 Boston with Rafa is not happy and Cass is commenting 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:03.240 on it that factor. 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:06.000 What does think about that? You know, what does he 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:08.199 think about the closing job in Baltimore? I need to 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:13.000 know these things. Uh, small lean towards Vinnie here. Although 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:14.800 it's kind of funny, I think he piled up a 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:17.080 lot of those RBIs in a year where he wasn't 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:20.199 especially strong last year. But I think the reasons why 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:22.040 he was strong are going to remain. I think he's 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:24.839 a smack dab in a great lineup. Uh not in 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:28.400 a great lineup, but smack dab behind Bobby Witt and 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:31.160 Salvador Perez. If I want Perez, I'm gonna want to 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:34.000 pass Spontino too. I think there is another level still 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:37.319 left in him in terms of the power. You know, 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:41.959 obviously he hasn't quite gotten there just yet. I think 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.880 if Cassis gets dealt elsewhere to kind of in the 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:46.880 wash of trying to make the playing time work, as 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:49.559 was once rumored in Boston, he probably lands in a 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.880 better spot. So I think you can make a case 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:55.199 for Casses too. I mean, there's a reason why these 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:57.480 guys are close and why we're actually and why he 0:11:57.520 --> 0:11:59.520 selected this as a battle because they are very in 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:00.400 similar straits. 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:05.240 I think, yeah, I like both players too. I think Cassis, 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:08.840 from a long term league's perspective, is a great target 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:10.360 if you're trying to trade for someone a keeper or 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:12.839 dynasty league that could give you surplus value for the 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:15.280 next couple of seasons he could do it. I wonder 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:18.440 if the fallout from things getting more crowded there could 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:21.680 actually cost Cassis some playing time at a certain point. 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:23.960 I think he could get caught up in that, maybe 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:26.319 end up in more of a strict platoon. I don't 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:28.400 think that happens with viny pass Quentino. So as much 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:30.679 as I like the Red Sox supporting cast more than 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:33.640 the Royal supporting cast, Benny pass Quentino was doing some 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:35.880 pretty interesting things in the second half last year, had 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:38.800 an injury that cost him time, but looked much more 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:41.360 like the player he did before shoulder surgery by the 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:44.199 end of last season. It's hard to find anyone in 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.760 the pool that hits the ball hard often and keeps 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:50.160 the k ra as low as Vinni pas Quentino does. 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:53.160 Kind of intrigued by some of the conversation I saw 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:55.280 from him. He was going back and forth with Tom 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:57.120 Tango a few weeks ago about some stuff he was 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:59.320 doing at to play. Just seems like he's very, very 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:02.920 cerebral about craft, but also puts together a profile that's 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:04.959 unique for the position. You might get a really high 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:08.400 average with twenty five plus home run power. Kaufin Stadium 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:10.640 is a park that does hurt homers, kind of like 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:13.199 we talked about Chase Field earlier. But I think the 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:15.280 good thing is it boost runs all around. So I 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:18.640 think this is an overall really solid player. Slightest of 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:21.480 edges to Vinnie because I think of their respective injuries. 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:24.280 The cassis ribb thing from last year basically just a 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:27.440 tear of the rib cartilage from swinging the bat too hard. 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:29.920 That gives me more long term concern. That's more like 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:32.040 a wear and tearor sort of problem, kind of like 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:34.920 a chronic back injury as a as a long term problem, 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:37.840 whereas with pascent Twina. At Pascentino, we saw more evidence 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:41.199 that he was just over the major injury, having the 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:43.800 surgery and then playing a lot better over the course 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:44.719 of the season last year. 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:47.480 Absolutely one other thing real quick, I'll throw in. You know, 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:50.920 you mentioned that Vinie's a cerebral player. I think those 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:54.680 of us in the analytic community tend to favor these guys. 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:57.599 I mean, I still remember, like Brian Vanister, like I 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:00.360 wanted that to work so much. I was really a 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:03.079 standing for him so hard does never quite happened. But 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:05.079 I do feel like we sometimes like to give that 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:06.480 little plus to those sort of guys. 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:09.640 Absolutely, yeah, we see a player that wants to invest 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:12.240 more in their own development, and that will peak our 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:15.240 interest over the guys who, to use an extreme example, 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:17.080 like the Rendows of the world, who just don't seem 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:20.480 to care. There's definitely a difference in opinion there, and 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:23.760 I agree completely that past when they're close, but pass 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:25.760 Pentino gets a slight edge, and I think, especially if 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:28.120 we're talking a very underserved part of the fantasy world, 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:31.160 which is points leagues, I think pass Quentino certainly gets 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:34.080 the edge there. He just doesn't strike out. There's less concern, 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:36.120 I think as we've gotten farther away from that labor 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:38.640 and it's I think he's healed. I think he's healed 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:39.840 very well, and I think the team is going to 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:42.080 be smart about keeping him healthy. He's gonna not just 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:43.840 play at first base one hundred and sixty two times. 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:45.960 He's gonnadh. He'll get some days off, So I think 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:47.360 they'll be smart about it, and I think that pass 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.440 Quentino is the way that I would go there as well. 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:53.040 Before we keep going, I want to remind you guys 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:55.320 about fan tracks. It is the home of fantasy sports 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:59.000 for year round engagement, offseason trades, real time updates, seamless 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:01.920 player transactions, keep the excitement going three hundred and sixty 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:04.840 five days a year. There's multi team trades. You can 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:09.120 customize literally everything. You can have team or roster sizes 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:11.280 that are two hundred plus managers, you can have these 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:14.440 massive leagues. You can do so much stuff. 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DVR, do you have a strong 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:44.400 lien here one way or the other. 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:47.160 It's definitely not a strong lean, but you do have 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:49.640 to look at these guys and decide who you dig. 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:51.760 If you're sitting in the early rounds and want to 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:54.120 cover second base. I have Albi's just the head of 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:56.280 LTVA literally written next to each other on my overall 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:59.320 hitter rankings right now. The main reason for it comes 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.040 down to support cast. I mean, these astros are not 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:05.760 quite the same as the astros that made seven consecutive 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:08.000 trips to the ALCS, right like, this is just not 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:10.960 the same loaded supporting cast, and they're still good. We 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:13.560 have some questions now about Jordan Alvarez's health already in 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:16.600 spring training, though, and he's becoming increasingly important to that 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:20.280 lineup in a post Kyle Tucker world as well. So 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:23.400 I think Atlanta's going to be more likely a lot 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:26.200 healthier in twenty twenty five than they weren't twenty twenty four. 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:28.480 They had a lot of injuries and they were key 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:31.040 impactful guys up and down that lineup. So you get 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:35.240 healthy Riley healthy, Acunya healthy, Albi's himself healthy, Michael Harris, 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:37.120 I think that's going to go a long way towards 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:39.920 making the run and RBI counts pop. I don't think 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:42.680 we're seeing any indication from this organization that they're going 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:44.960 to back off their everyday guys all that much. So 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:48.080 I think you're still looking at a possible max playing 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:51.240 time sort of ceiling, which is appealing. So slightest of 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:54.680 edges to Ozzie Albi's And you know, with l tv Man, 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:56.800 the move to left field is just weird. I wonder 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:58.280 if they're actually going to follow through on that, at 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:00.680 least as of now, it seems like they will. But 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:02.600 I don't think that's gonna have any sort of negative 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:05.800