1 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 3 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague West and Hodkowitz. We're coming to 4 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: you hear from our studios at lambeau Field and West. 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: Week one has finally arrived. Are you ready for this? 6 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: I am. I know you can make a lot of 7 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 2: jokes here about how long the offseason was, and you know, 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 2: training camp and everything, But to me, this is almost 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: more like the Christmas Morning kind of thing that it's like, 10 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: we know how good this team can be. We've seen 11 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: the potential and all these things. But when you have 12 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: one of the youngest rosters in the National Football League, 13 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: as much as you and I can pontificate about the 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 2: various different possibilities of this team, you want to see 15 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:50,959 Speaker 2: it on in the football field. And what better way 16 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 2: from the Green Bay Packers and the Jordan love Ara 17 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: to kick things off than going down to Soldier Field 18 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: to play their longest rival. Yeah. 19 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I've done a little bit of research and 20 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be writing about this later on in the week. 21 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: This is actually the twenty fifth time that the Packers 22 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: and Bears will open a season against one another. I 23 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: believe the current count is the Packers have the lead 24 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: thirteen wins, ten losses, one tie. Some of those have 25 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: been significant. You know, the Packers and Bears played the 26 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: first game at lambeau Field, The Packers and Bears were 27 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 1: the first game of the Vince Lombardi era, the first 28 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: game of the Mike McCarthy era, a lot of those, 29 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: and the first game of the Matt Lafleur era, and 30 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: now the first game of the Jordan Love era with 31 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: him taking over for Aaron Rodgers. And now it'll be 32 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: interesting because you know, there's going to be all of 33 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: the excitement, all the build up, all of the nerves 34 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: and all that. But I think what one thing that 35 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: I think will really work to Jordan Love's advantage in 36 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: this situation on Sunday at Soldier Field is that he 37 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: has actually started an NFL game before, and he did 38 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: it on the road at Arrowhead Stadium in a tough 39 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: place to play. So as much as there is so 40 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: much anticipation for this game and signaling the transition to 41 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: the new era at starting quarterback, at least from Jordan 42 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: Love's perspective, everything about going through the pregame and the 43 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: preparation and knowing that you're going to go out there 44 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: and play four quarters against an opponent with the crowd 45 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: against you and all that kind of stuff. He's been 46 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: through it before, and I think that that is at 47 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: least a little bit of something that he can hang 48 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: his hat on as he makes this momentous start. 49 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a lot a bit of something, 50 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 2: to be honest with you, because when you're a young 51 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 2: quarterback that has been the understudy for Aaron Rodgers for 52 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: three years, the opportunities to play were few and far between, 53 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: especially early on in twenty twenty when there was not 54 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: a preseason. But I thought that when you look at 55 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: every step of Jordan Love's journey from the first preseason 56 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 2: to that game against Kansas City Spots start in twenty one, 57 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: playing a little bit against Detroit later that same season 58 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: in the second half when the Packers already had their 59 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 2: seed wrapped up, and then lastly last year against Philadelphia, 60 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 2: every single time I thought you saw progress from him, 61 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 2: not just in the stat books, but in how he 62 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: carried himself as a quarterback, in the way in which 63 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 2: he played the position. This is going to be a 64 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: hostile environment because the Chicago Bears and their fans, they're 65 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: going to be energized. As much as you and I 66 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: think have talked about, you know, expectations on the Detroit 67 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: Lions this year as they've continued to make this progress 68 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 2: underneath Dan Campbell. The Bears feel likewise. They feel like 69 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: with Justin Fields, they have their quarterback of the future. 70 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: They feel like they've drafted well, They've made the right signings. 71 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 2: Are they going to be a team that's going to 72 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: contend for a Super Bowl this year? I wouldn't think so, 73 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: But they believe they should go into this game and 74 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: be able to change the tide here in this rivalry 75 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: against the Packers, and from the Packers' perspective, from Love's perspective, 76 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: what better way to put your stamp on things than 77 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: going back down into Soldier Field and continue in this 78 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: winning streak that Matt Lafleur has been I'm sure he's 79 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: not going to want to talk about it this week, 80 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: but eight tries against the Chicago Bears and eight victories 81 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: so far, Green Bay has really controlled the tempo of 82 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 2: this thing, and obviously, now that's something that Jordan Love 83 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 2: wants to continue to build upon. 84 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. And let's talk about this Bears team a 85 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: little bit because it is the second year of the 86 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: Matt Eberflus era as the head coach. Luke Getzi, the 87 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: former Packers assistant coach, as the offensive coordinator down there 88 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: in Chicago, working with Justin Fields. He is in his 89 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: third year as the starting quarterback, which is the second 90 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: year with this regime on the coaching staff. So there 91 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: are a lot of hopes and aspirations for Justin Fields 92 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: to make some major strides this year. Now, this is 93 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: a young man, he bleeve. He rushed for over a 94 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: thousand yards last year, which doesn't happen very often at 95 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: the quarterback position. I think the word out of Chicago 96 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: is that they would like Justin Fields to not have 97 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: to run as much, to not maybe run as much 98 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: as the did last year, to try to hang in 99 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: the pocket and make more plays with his arm, because 100 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: he certainly does have the arm to do that. And 101 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: one thing the Bears did to help him significantly in 102 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 1: that regards they went out and got DJ Moore, the 103 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: wide receiver from Carolina, who may not be a household 104 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: name in terms of wide receivers, but you look at 105 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: what he accomplished in five seasons at Carolina over five 106 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: thousand receiving yards. Three of those years he was over 107 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: eleven hundred receiving yards. This is the most accomplished offensive 108 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: perimeter weapon that the Bears have to go with Justin 109 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: Fields now, and he's going to be a player to 110 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: keep an eye on come Sunday. 111 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: Well, and you can't really draw too much out of 112 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 2: the preseason, right, but I thought some of the early 113 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 2: signs that we saw, you know, the catch and run, 114 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: the things that he's going to be able to do 115 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 2: with the ball in his hands, if you can get 116 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: him free in space. I'm sure that's what they're going 117 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 2: to be scheming up. I'm sure that's what Luke Getz 118 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 2: He's going to be looking to achieve. But even the 119 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: way they've built the rest of this roster out now, right, 120 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 2: Mercedes lewis up in Chicago, Robert Tunyan is in Chicago now, 121 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: Cole Kmet just got a you know, extension, got rewarded, 122 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 2: and they feel like he's going to be a big 123 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 2: part of this thing too. I think the Bears have 124 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 2: tried to figure out this offseason. Okay, what does Justin 125 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: Fields do well? Where can we help him and in 126 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: what areas can we take what he's already done well 127 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 2: and improve upon that. Having a guy like Mercedes does that. 128 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 2: Having you know, an offensive line that I think is 129 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 2: trying to make steps forward here and trying to galvanize 130 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 2: itself is going to do that. But at the end 131 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: of the day, the Bears needed receivers, and as good 132 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 2: of a story as Darnell Mooney was last year, they 133 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 2: just didn't really have a lot of guys that fields 134 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 2: could go to. So he did have to improvise a lot. 135 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: You're right, Mike. Last year he ran for eleven hundred yards. 136 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: You know, he threw for seventeen touchdowns. But at the 137 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 2: end of the day, the Bears still worth three and fourteen. 138 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 2: It didn't translate to wins. They needed to deepen out 139 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: this roster on both sides of the ball, and I 140 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: think when you see someone like more come in that 141 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: has the amount of energy that he has, there's a 142 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: feeling that this is one of those number one receivers 143 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 2: that we've been missing and a guy that could potentially, 144 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: you know, kind of pick up for what they've lacked 145 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: since Alan Robinson left. 146 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, and in the backfield. The Bears have now seemingly 147 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: have turned things over to Khalil Herbert as their number 148 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: one running back that David Montgomery is gone. He's now 149 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: actually with division rival Detroit, and Herbert as a guy, 150 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: you know, showed a lot of flashes, broke some big plays. 151 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: I don't have his exact statistics from last year in 152 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: front of me, but this is a he's a got 153 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: packs of punch, I guess is maybe the best way 154 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: to describe his running style. It's nothing that's overly dynamic, 155 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: but he's not exactly easy to bring down a lot 156 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: of times. 157 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: No, I mean he's a little powerhouse. I mean five 158 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 2: nine two ten pounds whatever he goes at. Yeah, you 159 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: were talking about last year with his stats. He ended 160 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,559 Speaker 2: up finishing with seven hundred and thirty one rushing yards 161 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 2: four touchdowns. But the biggest thing of all for him 162 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: was the five point seven yards per clip on the attempts. 163 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 2: That's one thing that I thought last year the Bears 164 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: sort of saw is Okay, David Montgomery's our guy for 165 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 2: a few seasons, you know, But you go back to 166 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 2: the way that this offense was built originally. It's that 167 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: Matt Forte type back right, and obviously Herbert is not 168 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: forte in terms of size, but a guy that could 169 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 2: be in every down type of presence for you. I 170 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: think that's probably where they wanted to get back to 171 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: a little bit this offseason. Montgomery ends up with the 172 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 2: Detroit Lions, and the Bear said, you know what, we 173 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 2: like what we have in house. We're going to continue 174 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: to develop this guy. Now, what's always going to be 175 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 2: interesting is I looked at the pairing of fields in 176 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 2: Montgomery almost as like a running back tandem, right, Yeah, 177 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 2: you know, not so much thunder and lightning, but just 178 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 2: different guys that can do different things with their ball 179 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 2: in their hands. Herbert gets them back to probably more 180 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 2: of just the between the tackles type runner, and I'm 181 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 2: very curious to see how he can make, you know, 182 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: fields life a little bit easier too in that regard. 183 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, it comes down 184 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: to being healthy. And I think when you look at 185 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 2: the Montgomery era in Chicago, that was one area where 186 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 2: they just they had to keep turning to different running 187 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 2: backs because Montgomery got banged up. If Herbert can be 188 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: the guy and stay on the field him like he 189 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 2: has the past two seasons for the most part, you know, 190 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 2: this is gonna be someone that I think they feel 191 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 2: like they can hang their hat on in this season 192 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: and years to come. 193 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, on the defensive side of the ball for 194 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: the Bears, it's definitely been a I guess you'd almost 195 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 1: say an ongoing transition over the last couple of years 196 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: because the days of that defensive front of you know, 197 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: a Keem Hicks and Khalil Mack and Robert Quinn and 198 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: those guys they're all gone. Ye, And it's not a 199 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: bunch of household names up front on the defensive line. 200 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: But what catches your eye when you look at this 201 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: Bears lineup on the defensive side is the three off 202 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: the ball linebackers in this four to three because they 203 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: have They got TJ. Edwards from the Philadelphia Eagles, they 204 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: got Tremaine Edmonds from the Buffalo Bills, and then Jack 205 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: Sanborn who they developed he was a rookie last season. 206 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: And of course I don't want my you know, Wisconsin 207 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: bias to shine through too much here, but TJ. Edwards 208 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: and Jack Sanborn, former Wisconsin and Badgers who are are 209 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: making their way here in the NFL. And then you 210 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: plug in a former, you know, very high draft pick 211 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: in Tremaine Edmonds coming out coming out of Buffalo. That's 212 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 1: the that sort of seems to be what the core 213 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: of the Bears defense is going to be. Now, not 214 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: to say that they're completely hearkening back to you know, 215 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: the Brian Erleck or Lance Briggs days of those off 216 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: the ball linebackers, but in some senses that's that's going 217 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: to be the you know, where the targets are when 218 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: you try to go after the Chicago Bears defense. 219 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I felt like, you know, in last year, 220 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 2: they did everything right. You know, they made trades, they 221 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: kind of cleared house a little bit, and you know, 222 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 2: Sanborn sort of fell into that void, sort of came 223 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: out of nowhere. Although I think there was a lot 224 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 2: of people when they signed him as a UFA and 225 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 2: saw him early on, thought that this guy could actually 226 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: be a player for us. But Edmunds is a guy 227 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 2: I really like because I feel like you always have 228 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 2: to have an athletic, rangey type of linebacker that can 229 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 2: do all the grunt work but also can drop back 230 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: in the coverage. I thought TJ. Edwards is a great 231 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 2: compliment to that as well. In a lot of ways 232 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 2: you hope for the Bears. You know, I'm sure the 233 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: Bears are hoping it's more successful than what they did 234 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: about what was that five six years ago when they 235 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 2: completely overhauled their linebacker situation when they signed Danny Travathian. 236 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 2: When they signed I think it was Darrell Freeman and 237 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 2: that inside backer do just didn't quite get them to 238 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 2: where they needed to be. You know, this to these 239 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 2: two guys a little bit more athletic, I think, a 240 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 2: little bit younger in kind of looking to see what 241 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 2: they have in front of them. But they need that 242 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 2: to be the nucleus because I don't know right now 243 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 2: what that defensive front gives them in terms of pressing 244 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 2: the quarterback. That is probably the biggest area they've transitioned here. 245 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 2: A lot of those household names that they had for 246 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 2: so many years upfront that you could count on for, 247 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 2: you know, ten fifteen sacks, they're not there now. You know, 248 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 2: there's no Khalil Mack, the Akeem Hickses of the world 249 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 2: in his prime, like those type of players set the 250 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 2: tone for that entire unit. That's gonna be one of 251 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: the big transitions. But they still do have veterans too though. 252 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 2: I mean you look at the back end, Eddie Jackson 253 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 2: is still doing his thing back there. They have depth, 254 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:06,599 Speaker 2: but it's now just gonna be a question of what 255 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 2: does that pass rush offer in behind it? How do 256 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 2: they handle opposing offenses? Yeah? 257 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I think when you look at Matt eber Matt 258 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: Eberflus's background, coming from coaching the defense in Indianapolis and 259 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: now transitioning to the head coach, the defenses with the 260 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts were nothing flashy. They didn't put up a 261 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: whole bunch of great numbers or you know anything, you know, 262 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of big time highlights or anything. But 263 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: they were defenses that we that were just sound that 264 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: were difficult to solve that times because they didn't have 265 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 1: any you know, big weak spots that that stood out 266 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: to you. That's what Matt Eberflus is trying to build. 267 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: That's why he's trying to build the middle of that 268 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: defense with those linebackers as as the core of things. 269 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: And and we'll see how how it works out for 270 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: them going into going into year two. Give me your 271 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: sense of what you feel the atmosphere will be like 272 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: at Soldier Field, because there is so much anticipation for 273 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: this Bears team, but yet it only had three victories 274 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: last year. You know, it's hard when we're not in 275 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: Chicago every day to get a sense of, Okay, just 276 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 1: how patient are Bears fans going to be with this 277 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: new regime and everything else, and certainly starting off against 278 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: the Packers, it's a big time opportunity for the Bears 279 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: to make a statement in week one, as you said earlier, 280 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: coming off of you know, kind of three decades of 281 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: dominance by Brett Farv and Aaron Rodgers as Packers quarterbacks. 282 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 2: And even different from that, like three decades with a 283 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 2: few exceptions of the pressure always being on Green Bay. 284 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 2: Heading into that atmosphere, I think the pressure in the 285 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: pendulum kind of swings back to the Bears now. I 286 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 2: think they're favored in this game at the time in 287 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 2: which they're taping this, And to me, it's funny, I 288 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 2: feel like I'm almost echoing myself when you and I 289 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: talked to this game last year in that it's all 290 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 2: justin fields. Yeah, everything that the Bears have, all their 291 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 2: hopes are hanging on that young quarterback. Think about it, 292 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: This was a great year to be going into the 293 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 2: quarterback business. A lot of guys went off the board, 294 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 2: a lot of teams moving up to get guys, a 295 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: lot of equity being traded around trying to find the 296 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 2: next franchise guy. The Bears fell into that number one 297 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 2: spot and they said, you know what, We're good. We 298 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 2: got our guy. We're excited about this dude. And here 299 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: they are now kind of going into another season, marching 300 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 2: into another season. The part that always strikes me as 301 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 2: interesting is it follows the same script. I don't know 302 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 2: if it's media driven, I don't know if it's just 303 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 2: a response from coaches, but this script is always the same. 304 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: When a young quarterback that is a scrambler, that's a runner, 305 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 2: produces on the ground with his feet, the narrative always 306 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 2: changes in year two and three, sometimes four, to hey 307 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: can they throw more? Can they become more of a 308 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 2: pocket passer. That's where the Chicago Bears are going to 309 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 2: know better than you and I as far as what 310 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: they feel like fields can be in the long run, 311 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: because you do need to keep them healthy, you do 312 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 2: need to keep him out there. But he also utilizes 313 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 2: his feet in a way a lot of quarterbacks haven't 314 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 2: been able to. I don't take it as just a 315 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: flight or flight mechanism with him. I look at it 316 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 2: as he is a legitimate running threat, running back threat, 317 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: and I don't think I think there's been a dearth 318 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 2: of those in the league. There's been guys who can 319 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: run like Patrick Mahomes that are natural passers, and there's 320 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 2: been guys that they just run for the sake of 321 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 2: running because they're getting out of their progressions. Fields went 322 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 2: through his progressions, but a lot of times it kind 323 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 2: of went to him having to scramble to make plays 324 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: with his feet last year with more weapons this season. 325 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: When you ask me the expectations, what the atmosphere is 326 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 2: going to be like, I think this one's going to 327 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 2: be really electric for the Bear standpoint, but I think 328 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 2: it's also predicated on them being able to keep some 329 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: wins going the first month of the season to keep 330 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: that energy flowing in that direction. 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So, 339 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: as much as the spotlight in this game is on 340 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: Jordan Love making his first start as the air parent 341 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: to Aaron Rodgers, there are a lot of guys. We 342 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: talked about our last couple of shows about how young 343 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: this Packers roster is. A lot of a lot of 344 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: green Bay Packers will be making their NFL debuts. There 345 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: are a whole bunch of rookies on this roster. Now 346 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: we don't know who all necessarily is going to play, 347 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: but you talk about a way to sort of shake 348 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: off those first NFL jitters, Throw yourself into a Packers 349 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: Bears game in week one of your rookie season and 350 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: here we go. 351 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 2: It reminds me the old Don Hodkoitz go learn how 352 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 2: to ride a bike, which was, okay, we can do 353 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 2: the training wheel thing, or I can just get you 354 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 2: in the front yard and start taking some tumbles and 355 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 2: figure it out. 356 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: Right. 357 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 2: That's probably what this is gonna be like for Green Bay. 358 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 2: They're gonna take some bumps early on, Jordan Love is 359 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 2: gonna take some bumps early on. But what I've been saying, 360 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 2: and you've had to edit it when I've written it 361 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 2: an insider inbox congratulations to you, is the Packers have 362 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: veteran depth where accounts right. If you're gonna pick Okay, 363 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 2: you're gonna have rookies here, You're gonna have veterans here, Mike, 364 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 2: where do you want to make sure you have veteran help. 365 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 2: You want to have it on the blind side of 366 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 2: your quarterback. The Packers have that in David Baktiari and 367 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 2: Elton Jenkins. They have guys in the backfield that know 368 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 2: what they're doing and blood, you know, blitz protection and 369 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 2: being able to be a checkdown option in Aaron Jones 370 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 2: and aj Dillon. Where they're young is the position where 371 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 2: sometimes you want to be young, right. You want to 372 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 2: have young receivers like Jayden Reid come into your offense, 373 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 2: a guy like Malik Heath who's probably gonna see some 374 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 2: snaps right out of the gate even though he was 375 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 2: an undrafted rookie, and someone like Luke Musgrave who will 376 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 2: be ling learning on the job this year as a 377 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 2: tight end one. But I'll tell you what, Mike for 378 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 2: being a rookie, really impressed me in camp in terms 379 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 2: of what he was able to do out of the 380 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 2: gate at a very complicated position. This is going to 381 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 2: be a supreme challenge for this football team. They're going 382 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 2: to have to hang their hat at times on their 383 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 2: defense and they're going to need the defense to play 384 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,479 Speaker 2: to that standard. But that being said, as you myself, 385 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 2: Larry mccaern, we've all talked about the Packers team, assuming 386 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 2: they can stay healthy, that takes the field, that soldier 387 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 2: field in week one is not going to look anything 388 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 2: like the last one. In Week eighteen when the Bears 389 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 2: come to Green Bay to play the Packers, right, it 390 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 2: is going to be developed, It is going to be matured, 391 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 2: and you just hope through the course of that season, 392 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 2: those eighteen weeks, those seventeen games, you can pick up 393 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 2: enough wins along the way that keeps you hunting the 394 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 2: hunt for playoffs. Yeah. 395 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And the Packers are young as well. Obviously at 396 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 1: the specialist position. You have the rookie kicker and Anders 397 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: Carlson six round pick out of Auburn. He'll make his 398 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: NFL debut and then Daniel Wheelan at Punter. He's taking 399 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: over there for the veteran pat O'Donnell. And I use 400 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: that as a transition because I have to clarify something, 401 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 1: and I'll do it right here on the show. Because 402 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: it was on our last show that I made a 403 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: comment in talking about Daniel Wheelan and in trying to 404 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: tease the feature story that I wrote on him, that 405 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: that is on our website. You can go find it 406 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: if you'd still like to read it. But I made 407 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: the passing comment that Daniel Wheeler went to a small 408 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: school in California. Okay, no, no, wait, wait, listen, listen, listen. 409 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 1: Because I took a couple of days off this last weekend, 410 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: I disconnected. I disappeared quite frankly for a couple of days, 411 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: and then I came back and I read a defense 412 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: of that line from the last unscripted show that you 413 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: put an insider inbox. It was a reader named William 414 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: from Colorado. I run into the fire here, Mike, and 415 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: I appreciate him pointing this out. But the reason and 416 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: what you said is that obviously you see Davis, which 417 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: is where Daniel Wheelan went, is it is not a 418 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: small school because it has forty thousand students, but it's 419 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: an FCS school, it's not an FBS, it's not a 420 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: Power five conference, and I appreciate you providing that defense 421 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: for me. What I need to clarify, though, is what 422 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: actually what actually happened in my brain when I said 423 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 1: small school in California, I got and this is the 424 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: honest truth. I got the school for Daniel Wheelan and 425 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: long snapper Matt Orzick mixed up Pacific because Orzick went 426 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: to Azusa Pacific, which is a school in California that 427 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 1: has I believe ten thousand students, and half of those 428 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: are grad students. It's only like five thousand undergraduate students. 429 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: That's where he played his college football, and I got 430 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: it mixed up with Wheelan, who also played at a 431 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: school in California, not a small school, but an FCS school. 432 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: So I should have just said, if I had had 433 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: it right, I would have said that Daniel Wheelan went 434 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: to an FCS school and not a Power five school. 435 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 1: The small school line was actually a mistake on my 436 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: part because I got his school mixed up with his 437 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: long snappers, with Orza going to a Zusa Pacific. So 438 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: William from Colorado. I appreciate, I appreciate you bringing that 439 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: line to my attention, and I appreciate my colleagues defense 440 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: and insider inbox of me. But I needed to set 441 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: the record straight right here. So hopefully William is listening 442 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: or watching this show and the clarification has been made. 443 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 2: I'm glad you did that. You're an upstanding citizen, You're 444 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 2: a man of honor. I will say this though, it 445 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 2: had been twenty one years now since the last time 446 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 2: a player has been drafted out of UC Davis, Right, 447 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 2: so they've had forty thousand students a year or whatever. 448 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 2: The last time is two thousand and two. You're not 449 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 2: gonna guess, so I might as well just. 450 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: Tell no, I'm not gonna be able to get hast. 451 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 2: Ties to the Green Bay Packers. Really, former Packers quarterback J. T. 452 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 2: O'Sullivan was the last player to get drafted out of 453 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 2: UC Davis, not by the Packers, by the Saints. 454 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. I was gonna say he wasted by New Orleans, 455 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: but then he ended up up and ended up in 456 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: Green Bay briefly. Y, But that's the other thing I 457 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: love about specialists. 458 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 2: Though, Now you have andres Carlson, who you know, he 459 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 2: comes from a kicking family. Him and his brother were 460 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 2: what the kickers at Auburn for a decade. But I 461 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 2: love that. That's what I always love. You know, these 462 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 2: specialists U see Davis Azusa, Pacific Old Dominion, you know 463 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 2: br Hatcher when he was here in camp. Like you 464 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 2: get these guys that aren't like from the big Power 465 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,959 Speaker 2: five schools, that get an opportunity, and certainly from Wheland 466 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 2: if you had any chance to check out the story yet, 467 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 2: be sure to do that because he has an incredible story, yes, 468 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 2: and such a little part of it is actually his 469 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 2: background from Ireland. I mean, they's just the things that 470 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 2: he's done to make his dream come true here and 471 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 2: obviously you hope for the best for the kid. 472 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, one of many young players that will take 473 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 1: the field for the Packers that soldier field in Week one. 474 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: On our next show, we'll get to the keys to 475 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: victory and break things down a little bit more with 476 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: another look at this Packers Bears matchup, but for now 477 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: we'll call it a rap. On this edition of Packers Unscripted, 478 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: be sure to follow all of our coverage of the 479 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: team throughout Week one. We will have it all four 480 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: for you on packers dot com for Wesi, Am Mike, 481 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: thank you for tuning in everybody. We will see you 482 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: next time. Mm hmm