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Speaker 1: Here's Paul CALVICI I'm ready. I'm one hundred percent ready.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you I'm ready. And Darren Urban, how about
Speaker 1: this Herbic kid. You know, as much as I despised
Speaker 1: Shakespeare in college as an English undergrad, I love a
Speaker 1: good Shakespearean tragedy in football, especially when it happens to
Speaker 1: the opponent. And that is why we are gathered here
Speaker 1: today for this very special Cardinals Folktales edition of The
Speaker 1: Big Red Rage, presented by santan Ford in Gilbert Miracle
Speaker 1: in the Desert. That is the title of tonight's episode,
Speaker 1: as we hit the rewind button and go back into
Speaker 1: Cardinals history, all time anecdotes, as we like to say,
Speaker 1: Cardinals folktales where you can't spell the word history without
Speaker 1: the word story. Paul calvic here, Darren Urban was there
Speaker 1: covered the game back in two thousand and three. This
Speaker 1: is the rare game, Darren, where it was best remembered
Speaker 1: for what both teams did not get. The Vikings do
Speaker 1: not get a playoff Berth, the Cardinals did not get
Speaker 1: the first pick in the draft. Talking about this season
Speaker 1: finale two thousand and three.
Speaker 6: This is true.
Speaker 7: I hadn't really thought about it that but but you
Speaker 7: know you going negative doesn't really surprise me that much, Paul.
Speaker 1: Look, the real winner was a team that wasn't in
Speaker 1: the game.
Speaker 7: Yes, that's true that Green Bay Packers got through the
Speaker 7: playoffs because of that result, and they they did feel
Speaker 7: like winners that day. And Nate Poole can attest to
Speaker 7: that because he ended up in Green Bay a week
Speaker 7: later at the playoff game.
Speaker 8: Yes.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's by far the highlight of Nate Poole's career.
Speaker 6: Yes, we're gonna learn.
Speaker 1: In fact, you tell us since you where were you,
Speaker 1: by the way, for Nate Pool's shining moment? Were you
Speaker 1: still in the press pot?
Speaker 7: In those days, all the reporters would gather in the
Speaker 7: corner of the end zone, and we were down on
Speaker 7: the end of the field that the Cardinals scored upon.
Speaker 7: We were just on the other side. So we were
Speaker 7: down there in the between the back line, the back
Speaker 7: of the goal line, in about the ten yard line,
Speaker 7: watching this unfold. Couldn't see exactly obviously because it was
Speaker 7: on the far sideline the catch, but you could hear
Speaker 7: the crowd explode. I was down there when you know,
Speaker 7: Josh McCown was pleading to the official to give them
Speaker 7: the call when they were going to the replay. I
Speaker 7: remember that very distinctly because we were on the field
Speaker 7: by then, and it was just it was an amazing
Speaker 7: end to what turned out to be Dave McGinnis's career
Speaker 7: as the head coach, and obviously it was a springboard
Speaker 7: to them getting Larry Fitzgerald.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a lot of change after this game.
Speaker 1: Going into the game, though, I mean, what were the
Speaker 1: odds the Cardinals had a chance to really win a
Speaker 1: game when they hadn't won a game in nearly two months,
Speaker 1: and the Vikings needed the game to clinch a playoff spot.
Speaker 7: Well, the funny thing is is, not only did anybody
Speaker 7: think the Cardinals really had a chance, but even if
Speaker 7: they lost, it didn't look real good for them to
Speaker 7: get the number one overall pick. They needed a couple
Speaker 7: of bad teams to win, and it ended up working
Speaker 7: out that way if they had had lost. But then again,
Speaker 7: you know, the Vikings, I'm guessing they were a little overconfident.
Speaker 7: I don't know. I remember watching the game from the
Speaker 7: press box thinking to myself, they don't look like they're
Speaker 7: ready to put this team away. The Vikings don't look
Speaker 7: like they're ready to put the Cardinals away. And those
Speaker 7: Cardinal teams were not good, but they did give effort.
Speaker 7: And you had a lot of guys out there playing
Speaker 7: for the first time or very inexperienced Josh McCown, Reggie Wells.
Speaker 7: I mean, you go down the list, and they just
Speaker 7: didn't give up. Now, they needed some bounces there at
Speaker 7: the end, for sure, but the fact they were even
Speaker 7: in shouting distance of the game never should have happened.
Speaker 1: And we're gonna get a full recap here because it
Speaker 1: really is gripping. I mean, the first three quarters of
Speaker 1: the game not so much, but it was seventeen to
Speaker 1: six Vikings with under seven minutes to play. Then just
Speaker 1: after the two minute warning it's a one score game.
Speaker 1: You need the on sidekick Neil Rackers, right, he was
Speaker 1: a master at making the ball do different things. He
Speaker 1: had that soccer background, and then things just got really
Speaker 1: crazy from there. I mean, with all due respect to
Speaker 1: a young Dave Pash behind the mic, it's the rare
Speaker 1: game where the truly memorable radio calls came from a
Speaker 1: the losing team and be the team that really benefited
Speaker 1: two time zones away who needed a Cardinals win more
Speaker 1: than the Cardinals did.
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's definitely some memorable calls. With all due respect
Speaker 7: to Dave, I don't know if he ranks in the
Speaker 7: top two there, but it was an amazing time all
Speaker 7: the way around, just because of how it ended and
Speaker 7: what it meant and just the memories of that game
Speaker 7: and for Josh mccount and aatepool.
Speaker 1: And we're going to hear how it all unfolded in
Speaker 1: real time at the time two thousand and three. Heck,
Speaker 1: it was a holiday season and the Cardinals rock team
Speaker 1: Santa Colors, right, red, white, and black. So this was
Speaker 1: their own gift, their own parting gift to the home fans.
Speaker 1: And when we come back and this very special Cardinals
Speaker 1: Folk Tales edition of The Big Red Rage, we'll hear
Speaker 1: it for ourselves. Miracle in the Desert presented by santan Ford.
Speaker 1: And welcome back into our special Cardinals Folk Tales Edition
Speaker 1: of The Big Red Rage presented by Santanford and Gilbert.
Speaker 1: We're in rewind into Cardinals history because remember, you can't
Speaker 1: spell the word history without the word story, and boy
Speaker 1: do we have one. From the final week of the
Speaker 1: regular season two thousand and three, Cardinals were hosting the
Speaker 1: Vikings and the Cardinals had exactly nothing to play for
Speaker 1: beyond the number one pick, which they would secure with
Speaker 1: the loss. The nine and six Vikings came in. Remember
Speaker 1: they had started six and oh that season, but their
Speaker 1: playoff hopes were on the line. They needed a win
Speaker 1: to secure a postseason berth and the week before they
Speaker 1: had already KOed KC forty five to twenty. That was
Speaker 1: a Kansas City team that went thirteen and three in
Speaker 1: two thousand and three. So with that in mind, not
Speaker 1: many gave the Cardinals a chance. But as quarterback of
Speaker 1: the time, Josh McCown would say later, Hey, you've been
Speaker 1: around coach McGinnis. He can make any game feel like
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. And that would be foreshadowing because coach McGinnis,
Speaker 1: who was great with the media, also had a great
Speaker 1: comparison between the two receivers on the field that day
Speaker 1: who were college teammates once upon a time at Marshall.
Speaker 1: We'll hear that a little bit later, but the Cardinals
Speaker 1: were talking about Nate Poole thirty six career games in
Speaker 1: the NFL. He managed a total of thirty four career
Speaker 1: catches and two touchdowns, but at the end of his
Speaker 1: brief time in the NFL, only one of those thirty
Speaker 1: four receptions truly mattered. It got him a key to
Speaker 1: a city, It got him a personalized phone call from
Speaker 1: a mayor. It got him a local TV commercial all
Speaker 1: in the city of Green Bay. So with that as
Speaker 1: the background, let's hit that rewind button to Miracle in
Speaker 1: the Desert. It's the final week of two thousand and three,
Speaker 1: this season finale that would end the year for two teams.
Speaker 5: The count throwing far side into the end zone.
Speaker 9: And the ball it is touchdown tortos.
Speaker 2: An unbelievable turn of evnch Not here at lambeau Field,
Speaker 2: but in the desert, you would.
Speaker 8: Have thought we won Super Bowl. I mean, it was
Speaker 8: an unbelievable moment.
Speaker 9: The Vikings are going home for the new year.
Speaker 10: You just don't lose like that. Nobody loses like that.
Speaker 10: Let alone to Nathan.
Speaker 8: Poole, and they pulls a good person to make that play.
Speaker 8: He deserves that.
Speaker 1: Not one of the Minnesota Vikings are even moving right now.
Speaker 11: You lose a game and it opens the door for
Speaker 11: your worst enemy.
Speaker 2: The Packers not only make the playoffs, they're going to
Speaker 2: be host of the game.
Speaker 11: It was that if the sun fell out of the sky.
Speaker 11: You know, it was a miserable day of existence.
Speaker 1: Time that two teams played one game that stop time
Speaker 1: in three cities was a Cardinals receiver in or out
Speaker 1: of bounds? Were the Vikings and Packers in or out
Speaker 1: of the playoffs? Who would be drafting one, two, and three?
Speaker 1: All dictated by a Cardinals win that some viewed as
Speaker 1: a loss.
Speaker 4: I think even the fans were like, man, let's just
Speaker 4: get this season over and get the number one pick
Speaker 4: walk away with the Eli manning.
Speaker 8: There was something to play for there. They're you know,
Speaker 8: they're playing for something. We can be playing for something too.
Speaker 6: He got flushed out to the right. I said, oh
Speaker 6: here he come, be into the angone.
Speaker 12: The count.
Speaker 11: Knock me out of number one pick too. Man, I
Speaker 11: probably been in the first pick of the draft. Man,
Speaker 11: they cost me Nate pull Man. I'd never forgive him
Speaker 11: for that. I tell them that all the time.
Speaker 2: Nathan poll may become a household name in Green Pay.
Speaker 12: This is Mael Schmidtz. I love to get you out
Speaker 12: one of the games. I said, oh no, I would
Speaker 12: love to come out.
Speaker 10: He was given a key to the city of Green
Speaker 10: Bay and he got to go to their playoff game.
Speaker 3: I'm sure he.
Speaker 13: Will have a lot of opportunities to go out in
Speaker 13: Green Bay if that is his desire. He will have
Speaker 13: a lot of people who will take good care of him.
Speaker 1: To the winner goes the Spoils. That's after the Cardinals
Speaker 1: took care of the Vikings. All right, a big win,
Speaker 1: but the big winner the Packers welcome into Cardinals Folktales
Speaker 1: Miracle in the Desert presented by seventy two Souls, where
Speaker 1: we go in depth into Cardinals history, all time anecdotes,
Speaker 1: through the recollections and memories of those who lived in
Speaker 1: or in my case, those who covered it. My name
Speaker 1: is Paul Kelvic, Cardinals sideline reporter. We're talking about that
Speaker 1: time when little known Nate Poole got the key to
Speaker 1: a city while his own fan base lamented what it
Speaker 1: did not get.
Speaker 8: People said, well, y'all, you know you costing the number
Speaker 8: one pick.
Speaker 4: The consolation was probably the greatest player in Cardinals history
Speaker 4: and one of the greatest receivers of all time.
Speaker 8: Looking back, you feel bad for the Vikings.
Speaker 13: Dot damn down.
Speaker 10: Oh my god, I can't believe what just happened.
Speaker 5: The Cardinals have knocked.
Speaker 2: The Vikings out of the playoffs.
Speaker 1: One of the great calls, one of the great thrill
Speaker 1: of victory, agony of defeat moments in NFL history, every
Speaker 1: bit as much Shakespearean tragedy as season finale. December twenty eighth,
Speaker 1: two thousand and three. Cardinals playing for the number one
Speaker 1: pick with a loss, the Vikings playing for the postseason
Speaker 1: with a win or a Packers loss. Yet none of
Speaker 1: the above happened. Here's former head coach Dave McGinnis and
Speaker 1: quarterback Josh McCown. We gotta win a game and we
Speaker 1: haven't won a game in seven weeks. I mean, we
Speaker 1: need to win a ballgame. You know, there are a
Speaker 1: lot of people I know pulling force.
Speaker 8: Obviously. Coach McGinnis was fantastic in front of the room.
Speaker 8: He was very captivating, and that was one of the
Speaker 8: things that he talked about was just the ability to
Speaker 8: knock those guys off. You know, they were coming in,
Speaker 8: they had to beat us, and you know they were
Speaker 8: going to get into the playoffs, and so there was
Speaker 8: something to play for there there. You know, it wasn't
Speaker 8: just a game where we're going to roll the ball
Speaker 8: out there and get it over with and go home.
Speaker 8: He was like, man, this is they're playing for something.
Speaker 8: We can be playing for something too.
Speaker 1: In two thousand and three, it was a sixteen game season.
Speaker 1: Cardinals entered the final week three and twelve. The Vikings,
Speaker 1: after a six and oh start, were nine and six,
Speaker 1: coming off a ko of KC the week before a
Speaker 1: forty five to twenty drubbing of a Chiefs team that
Speaker 1: would finish thirteen and three. So all the Vikings had
Speaker 1: to do what everyone expected him to do, polish off
Speaker 1: a reeling Cardinals team with a quarterback making his third
Speaker 1: career start, a coach about to be fired, and the
Speaker 1: NFL's all time leading rusher getting peppered about his own
Speaker 1: future on Christmas Eve.
Speaker 6: I mean, who knows we can play hypothetical all day?
Speaker 5: Is Macizia great?
Speaker 2: But if he's not here, people coming in, what their
Speaker 2: plans are, what the ideas, and what they thought.
Speaker 9: So I gotta win on all that.
Speaker 2: So you asking me to make up answer to something
Speaker 2: that I don't have all.
Speaker 6: The information to, that's stupid. I'm not that stupid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, please, somebody tell you something Pleasetmas Eve?
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 5: How about the spirit of John Inness and happiness?
Speaker 1: That's former Cardinals running back and Hall of Famer Emmitt Smith,
Speaker 1: And hey, no doubt what would make the Red Sea
Speaker 1: jolly and happy? The number one overall pick under their tree.
Speaker 1: Here's Voice of the Cardinals Dave Pash was in his
Speaker 1: second season in three.
Speaker 4: And you endure that long of a season and you're
Speaker 4: calling games for a team that's losing a lot of games,
Speaker 4: the one thing is, okay, you got a chance to
Speaker 4: get a franchise changing quarterback. Let's just get through this
Speaker 4: and get to that draft. Get your guy, enjoy the
Speaker 4: next ten years. And a couple sits like.
Speaker 8: That whole year. You grow up fast in this business,
Speaker 8: and you go, wait, they're gonna fire these coaches. Wait
Speaker 8: a minute, they could draft a new quarterback. Like you know,
Speaker 8: I was just a quarterback of the future two days ago.
Speaker 8: You know, all these things. You grow really fast.
Speaker 1: That's Cardinals could be Josh McCown, the third round pick
Speaker 1: the year before, who earned the final three starts of
Speaker 1: that O three season and tried to channel the confidence
Speaker 1: that his head coach Dave McGinnis showed in him against
Speaker 1: NFC North leading Minnesota.
Speaker 8: I think when you look at their roster, uh, when
Speaker 8: they're coming out to us with everything to play for,
Speaker 8: I think it was a tall task. Uh So looking
Speaker 8: at that going yeah, we're gonna beat the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 8: You know, realistically, I don't know if that was you know,
Speaker 8: if that was an easy sale for coach, but he
Speaker 8: did a good job of framing that for us. And
Speaker 8: and uh and I think he was, you know, benefited
Speaker 8: from a young quarterback who didn't know any better and
Speaker 8: just was gonna go out and play the game.
Speaker 4: It's the Cardinals and Vikings from Tempe Arizona Sun Devil Stadium.
Speaker 1: Not a lot of action for the announcers to call
Speaker 1: in a fifty one degree day, a virtual snooze fast.
Speaker 1: Six to nothing at halftime, seven to six entering the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter when Randy Moss scores on a seven yard pass.
Speaker 4: Lot closer than many thought it would be, especially with
Speaker 4: a playoffs spot on the line of the Vikings win,
Speaker 4: they clinch their division.
Speaker 5: If they lose and Green Bay wins, they're.
Speaker 1: Out of the playoffs. Then, just over two minutes later,
Speaker 1: a forty six yard fuel goal makes it seventeen to
Speaker 1: six Vikings with six forty eight to play, but hang on.
Speaker 1: On the first play after the two minute warning.
Speaker 4: McCown takes play, bank rolls to his right, mccount in
Speaker 4: trouble flushdown, throws ends on and going down to make
Speaker 4: the catch for a touchdown of Steve Bush. Steve Bush
Speaker 4: with a touchdown catch. Great improv job by Josh McCown.
Speaker 1: A fourteen play touchdown drive bought. The two point conversion failed,
Speaker 1: so it's seventeen to twelve Vikings, a score echoed on
Speaker 1: the Packers broadcast.
Speaker 2: James Minnesota leading seventeen to twelve. Remember, the only way
Speaker 2: the Packers can make the playoffs now is if Minnesota
Speaker 2: loses this football game somehow, some way.
Speaker 1: That's the radio call at Lambeau, Wayne Larrvie and Larry
Speaker 1: McCarron paying close attention nearly two thousand miles away in
Speaker 1: Green Bay, Cardinals are going to.
Speaker 4: Try to recover an onside kick to perhaps give us
Speaker 4: a little bit more time to broadcast.
Speaker 14: Luckily, that day I wasn't demolition, I was recovery. And
Speaker 14: you know, Josh Kobe and company went in there, you know,
Speaker 14: blasting guys and right place, right time.
Speaker 1: That's former Cardinals running back Damien Anderson. And that's the recipe,
Speaker 1: the mentality for a successful onside kick, because that's exactly
Speaker 1: what the Cardinals needed. Good news. The Cards are just
Speaker 1: picked up one of the best in the business in
Speaker 1: Neil Rackers.
Speaker 4: So what fifty four to play? Neil Rackers is very
Speaker 4: good with the on side kick.
Speaker 8: We were all standing there, you know, waiting because that
Speaker 8: was we knew that that was the next piece. You know,
Speaker 8: you had to get that to keep the ball game going.
Speaker 8: And you know, Neil hits a perfect ball and I
Speaker 8: mean it was just how you drew it up, you know.
Speaker 8: And Damien comes up with it.
Speaker 4: Rackers with the on side kick far aside and it
Speaker 4: bounce us in the air and the Cardinals have it.
Speaker 4: Of the forty two Davian Anderson comes up with it
Speaker 4: on the redirection and the Cards have a chance.
Speaker 5: With one fifty four to play.
Speaker 2: The Arizona Cardinals tried an onside kick and Larry Long
Speaker 2: behold they recovered it for a minute fifty four to
Speaker 2: go in that football game in the desert and the
Speaker 2: Vikings leading seventeen to twelve. Well, I'm going to shut
Speaker 2: up about this last game.
Speaker 11: Stuff done.
Speaker 2: Maybe they do a miracle. Keep talking about it. You
Speaker 2: may be jinxing us into something good here.
Speaker 6: Maybe that miracle can happen.
Speaker 10: You get to that onside kick and now all of
Speaker 10: a sudden, all bets are off. I mean, anything can
Speaker 10: happen against anybody anytime, and as we know, it did.
Speaker 1: That's longtime voice of the Viking, Paul Allen. More from
Speaker 1: him later, much more.
Speaker 5: Saul.
Speaker 1: Cardinals had the ball back one fifty four left sixty
Speaker 1: one yards to go, needing a touchdown. With one time out.
Speaker 1: After a thirty yard pass interference and a thirteen yard
Speaker 1: completion in Nate Poole, the Cardinals reached the Minnesota nine
Speaker 1: with thirty nine seconds to go.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, out in the desert in Arizona, getting a little
Speaker 2: bit closer. You know people are aware of this because
Speaker 2: you could hear a thousand in the crowd.
Speaker 1: There is definitely at everyone is out of their seats
Speaker 1: in three different states. When Josh McCown is put on
Speaker 1: his seat, two straight plays quit driving.
Speaker 4: Of McCown looking let pump thick of account sacked back
Speaker 4: at the seventeenyr line of McCown flushed out running near side,
Speaker 4: lost the ball, it's loose, and the Cardinals they have
Speaker 4: of the pound side out of the.
Speaker 8: Twenty eight Yimmett has a presence of mind to go, Josh,
Speaker 8: get up, get up. We gotta get the ball. Snap
Speaker 8: we got wow, Tom House, we gotta go. So we
Speaker 8: get to play call and then you know, and then
Speaker 8: we you know, fortually get the boss.
Speaker 14: Now you knew that was Josh skill set, Like call
Speaker 14: a play that works for him, you know, get him out,
Speaker 14: you know, get him out in some space so he'll
Speaker 14: have a multitude of options.
Speaker 4: The clock running down, under fifteen seconds left. It's fourth
Speaker 4: down at twenty four, and.
Speaker 5: It's gonna come down to this. They gotta throw it
Speaker 5: into the end zone.
Speaker 1: This is it. Fourth down, fourth and twenty five from
Speaker 1: the twenty eight. The Packers and Vikings playoff hopes hanging
Speaker 1: in the balance once again. Voice of the Vikings, Paul Allen.
Speaker 10: There was worry and anxiety and teeth gnashing every step.
Speaker 2: Of the way.
Speaker 1: Hey Green Bay, you still watching, you bet you?
Speaker 2: And they're winding it down in Arizona. This is the
Speaker 2: last gas, fourth and twenty four, back outside the twenty
Speaker 2: five and here we go.
Speaker 5: Eight seconds seven six five four. The count with the ball.
Speaker 5: This will be the last play. The count steps up,
Speaker 5: rolling far side.
Speaker 6: Just so happened. He got flushed, He got flushed out
Speaker 6: to the right. I said, oh, here.
Speaker 4: He come, the count throwing far side into the end
Speaker 4: zone and the ball it is touchdown.
Speaker 9: Cardinals made pool, and the Cardinals win the game on
Speaker 9: the final pool and the Kings are going.
Speaker 5: Home for the new year.
Speaker 12: Josh Man, you know, the whole time he's running, he's rolling,
Speaker 12: he's pointing to the right. I'm inside, I know he's
Speaker 12: about to throw it over there and the defender he
Speaker 12: had no clue.
Speaker 6: He had no clue.
Speaker 5: What a great crow by Josh McCown. He threw it
Speaker 5: up or only Maypoole could.
Speaker 9: Get it, and he did it.
Speaker 8: I felt like it was just there was a connection
Speaker 8: for us, you know, and so boom, there he is
Speaker 8: and then the ball came out. Uh, and he makes
Speaker 8: an unbelievable catch.
Speaker 9: The Cardinals winning on the final play.
Speaker 4: Joash mccoumb Wuen's made pool in the back of the
Speaker 4: end zone on the far side.
Speaker 8: You would have thought we won a super Bowl. And uh,
Speaker 8: I mean it was an unbelievable moment and edit mental
Speaker 8: to those guys.
Speaker 1: Out there, But it meant even more to Nate Poole,
Speaker 1: the guy who had been cut four times and then
Speaker 1: he cut loose against the visiting Vikings fans who had
Speaker 1: populated and dominated Sun Devil Stadium trash talk in three
Speaker 1: to two one take lso.
Speaker 6: Don't come back here and next to y'all get the
Speaker 6: same thing.
Speaker 1: Nate Poole, the living embodiment of the ups and downs
Speaker 1: of an NFL game. He was something fired up while
Speaker 1: those Viking fans could have been more let down. Remember,
Speaker 1: Nate Poole was a player who was always in proven mode,
Speaker 1: always existing on the edge of the roster, so he
Speaker 1: played with an edge. We heard it right there, and
Speaker 1: it's amazing when you look back out that one catch,
Speaker 1: that one toe tapping catch that proved to be a
Speaker 1: game winner. How it set off a domino effect, a
Speaker 1: whole litany of changes that altered the history of not
Speaker 1: only the Cardinals, but basically all the teams atop that
Speaker 1: two thousand and four draft franchise quarterbacks going two different teams,
Speaker 1: the Cardinals getting themselves a Hall of Famer as well,
Speaker 1: who might have gone number one overall of the Cardinals
Speaker 1: were in that position, but they weren't. And the changes
Speaker 1: even extended to the rule book years later. We'll get
Speaker 1: to that when we come back. And don't forget Natepool
Speaker 1: was not just a celebrity in Arizona. He was the
Speaker 1: toast of the town in Green Bay. And we'll relive
Speaker 1: all that when we come back to this very special
Speaker 1: Cardinals Folktales edition of the Big Red Rage Miracle in
Speaker 1: the Desert, presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert. It's our
Speaker 1: special Cardinals Bolk Tales edition of the Big Red Rage
Speaker 1: santan Ford in Gilbert. This is where we go into
Speaker 1: Cardinals history, go into the archives. Can't spell the word
Speaker 1: history without the word story. And we're talking about the
Speaker 1: final game of the two thousand and three season. My
Speaker 1: name is Paul Calvi. Seen. We started by saying, remember
Speaker 1: that one time, that one game played by two teams
Speaker 1: in two thousand and three, that stop time in three
Speaker 1: different NFL cities. Remember Nate Poole, Cardinals receiver, and was
Speaker 1: the in or out of bounds? We posed that question, Well,
Speaker 1: he was most definitely inbounds, and the Vikings were most
Speaker 1: definitely out of the playoffs, and the Cardinals were out
Speaker 1: of the top pick in the draft. We'll get to that,
Speaker 1: but remember when it comes to the Vikings, you're talking
Speaker 1: about a team that not only started six to zero
Speaker 1: and was on the verge of the playoffs, but that season,
Speaker 1: the four worst teams in the league were the Giants,
Speaker 1: the Raiders, the Chargers, and the Cardinals. Each team finished
Speaker 1: four and twelve. Each one of those teams beat the Vikings,
Speaker 1: So you can imagine the angst on the Minnesota side.
Speaker 1: In fact, their radio announcer, the voice of the Vikings.
Speaker 1: Paul Allen became a meme before there even were memes
Speaker 1: in social media, and that's where we rejoined this edition
Speaker 1: of Cardinals Folktales Miracle in the Desert, and former Cardinals
Speaker 1: quarterback Josh McCown two years later had empathy for the Vikings.
Speaker 8: Looking back, like you feel bad for the Vikings because
Speaker 8: they were right there on the cusp and to lose
Speaker 8: that way, man, that's bitter.
Speaker 1: Nate Pool's game winning, playoff busting, last second, fourth down
Speaker 1: touchdown catch was one of his two two career touchdowns,
Speaker 1: leaving the Vikings on the outside of the playoff picture
Speaker 1: looking in as radio voice Paul Allen and company were
Speaker 1: left in a state of utter disbelief.
Speaker 10: People were just staring longingly on the team bust to
Speaker 10: the airport. Nobody knew what to say, and they were
Speaker 10: just downtrodden.
Speaker 5: And you just don't lose like that.
Speaker 10: Nobody loses like that, let alone to Nathan Poole, not
Speaker 10: ang Kwam Bolden. So I mean, now as we connect
Speaker 10: the dots, you know, of the entire thing over twenty years,
Speaker 10: it hits me so vividly because of how emotional it
Speaker 10: was at that moment. The season's on the line, two
Speaker 10: receivers left and right.
Speaker 5: McCown takes the snap.
Speaker 6: He steps up, he's all by himself, fires into.
Speaker 9: The end zone.
Speaker 8: Dods Dods down.
Speaker 10: No, no, the Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out of
Speaker 10: the playoffs. The previous owner of the team, Red McCombs,
Speaker 10: hated that call. He didn't let me know, but he
Speaker 10: let others know. Some vice presidents here, so you know,
Speaker 10: I had some conversations with some vice presidents and I'm like,
Speaker 10: you know, you don't script moments like that, and that's
Speaker 10: what came out. So I had to deal with that
Speaker 10: very young and my career.
Speaker 4: I understand where Paul's coming from. You get invested in
Speaker 4: the team. It's your team, and I thought Paul handled
Speaker 4: it perfectly. Some people might say, uh, it's not professional,
Speaker 4: but that's how the fans feeling.
Speaker 8: No, are you kidding?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 5: That was Paul's reaction.
Speaker 10: One thing I remember about the call is I looked
Speaker 10: to my left where the coaches were, and our linebackers
Speaker 10: coach at that time, he bursage. He could hear me
Speaker 10: through the glass yelling no, no, no, no, and then
Speaker 10: I came down. The Gardinals have knocked the Vikings out
Speaker 10: of the playoffs. The Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out
Speaker 10: of the playoffs. The way he looked at me, it
Speaker 10: was not anger at me. It was one of two things.
Speaker 10: Oh my god, I can't believe what just happened. Oh
Speaker 10: my god, that check that I was going to get
Speaker 10: for a playoff bonus, it just went up into the tenpiece.
Speaker 1: Guy from Minnesota fans saying you sunk my Viking ship.
Speaker 1: Just the sheer agony of it all to the utter
Speaker 1: ecstasy of cheesehead nation listening on the Packers radio network,
Speaker 1: and here we go.
Speaker 2: This is if the season for the Packers. On the
Speaker 2: line into the end zone, accounts pack.
Speaker 13: Hey Jo.
Speaker 9: Got cutting down. It is as on Pacos.
Speaker 1: By label, complete deadlock from Wayne Larity and Larry McCarron
Speaker 1: reacting to a game they're not even calling, just watching
Speaker 1: from two thousand miles away.
Speaker 5: Patters the biggest amercon on the Packers.
Speaker 9: Sadly any reps the Packers.
Speaker 2: They finally realized there's any rep I'm a final playoff.
Speaker 2: The regular season for the Fight teams they lose eighteen
Speaker 2: to seventeen.
Speaker 5: The Packers not only.
Speaker 6: Make the playoffs, they're gonna be host of the game.
Speaker 1: True Rrett Farv and the Packers would host the Seahawks
Speaker 1: at Lambeau to open the playoffs. Later, Dave mcginni shared
Speaker 1: with the media that Packers coach Mike Sherman and GM
Speaker 1: Mark Hadley called him and said, quote, you're a bleeping
Speaker 1: king here in Green Bay. The thing is back in Tempee,
Speaker 1: speaking of coach mac different emotions, a different reality started
Speaker 1: to set in as the Cardinals locker room grew quiet,
Speaker 1: almost somber.
Speaker 15: For all that we've been through, we never quit on
Speaker 15: each other. It was a constant, constant reminder of what
Speaker 15: character I've got in this room.
Speaker 1: I've never been afraid to tell you that I love you.
Speaker 8: It was somber, and it's very soberinging. You're just like, man,
Speaker 8: back to reality. This is what we're faced with. And
Speaker 8: he was genuine with his and you know, and how
Speaker 8: I cared about guys, and so I think he understood
Speaker 8: in that moment that that was probably, you know, the
Speaker 8: last time or one of the last times he was
Speaker 8: going to address this as a group.
Speaker 15: I've never been afraid to open myself to you because
Speaker 15: you've got my heart. You've got my heart, you know.
Speaker 8: It's a roller coaster, really, because you were just as
Speaker 8: high as it gets. You know, for fifteen twenty minutes,
Speaker 8: they're celebrating and enjoying one another, and then you know,
Speaker 8: the business sets in.
Speaker 15: When Nate Poole gave me this ball that he caught,
Speaker 15: What did I tell you last night? I cut this
Speaker 15: man four times. I cut him four times, and every
Speaker 15: time I did, he stood up in my office and
Speaker 15: hugged me and said, Mac, if you need me, I'll
Speaker 15: be back because you're the only man I want to
Speaker 15: play for.
Speaker 1: And that's the way I know that all of you
Speaker 1: feel right now.
Speaker 6: It was real motion on It was like you know,
Speaker 6: your last family hug.
Speaker 12: You know, and you know, and it hurt because we know,
Speaker 12: you know, he's a player's coach and he loved the players.
Speaker 12: He want the players to do do you know, to excel,
Speaker 12: to be really great?
Speaker 1: You know what I feel for you?
Speaker 14: You know what I feel for you.
Speaker 15: This was a tremendous, tremendous demonstration of men that not
Speaker 15: only love each other, but believe, believe, believe.
Speaker 12: You know, most of us felt like we let Dave
Speaker 12: down because you know, we didn't come up on the
Speaker 12: winning side of a lot of these games to keep
Speaker 12: him around.
Speaker 1: I'll never ever give up on you. I love you.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 1: On the very next day, with a foreign twall season
Speaker 1: in the books, Cardinals head coach Dave McGinnis was indeed fired.
Speaker 1: Vikings head coach Mike Tye survived despite the Vikings collapse
Speaker 1: after that six and oh start. As for the Packers,
Speaker 1: the party was just starting and Napool's celebrity was growing.
Speaker 2: Nathan Pool, of all people, how about that, Nathan Pull
Speaker 2: may become a household name in green Bay.
Speaker 10: It was an amazing play. But you know, like I
Speaker 10: say about Nathan, and I'm not being disparaging here, but
Speaker 10: that was his fifteen minutes of fame. And then of
Speaker 10: course the next week he was given a key to
Speaker 10: the city of Green Bay and he got to go
Speaker 10: to their playoff game, and.
Speaker 1: That is accurate. Nate Poole, who going into the season
Speaker 1: finale had eight catches all season and no touchdowns, was
Speaker 1: now Packers royalty, to the point where he got a
Speaker 1: call from the mayor of Green Bay.
Speaker 12: So Mayor Schmitz gave me a call and I was like, oh,
Speaker 12: here we go. Stop calling my phone because I'm thinking
Speaker 12: it's a player, and I'm thinking he's gonna call that
Speaker 12: player's gonna call me back and say.
Speaker 6: Man, dude, what are you doing? Then I got a
Speaker 6: call right back. It was the same number, and I'm like, okay, hey,
Speaker 6: how you doing this in April? And he was like, Hey, Nate, no,
Speaker 6: this is not a joke.
Speaker 12: This is Mayor Schmidt. I love to get you out
Speaker 12: in a speed talking. I love to get you out
Speaker 12: to one of the games.
Speaker 6: I said, oh no, I would love to come out.
Speaker 1: And that's not the only call he got that week.
Speaker 1: On the Big Red Rage radio show with host Dave Pash,
Speaker 1: a Packers fan dialed in from the Midwest line too.
Speaker 5: Dave, Mary, Joe, Mary Joe, Welcome to the Big Red Rage.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Joe.
Speaker 13: Hey, guys, thanks a lot. I was just calling to
Speaker 13: wish Nate a wonderful time in Green Bay and to
Speaker 13: give him a huge thank you. Since the Vikings started
Speaker 13: off six and oh this year, I've been taking a
Speaker 13: lot of grief for getting a lot of grief from
Speaker 13: my friends who are Viking fans, and I would roll
Speaker 13: my eyes and just say, oh, you know, won't you
Speaker 13: ever learn? The Vikings will find some way to implode
Speaker 13: again this year and sweet revenge. It has been a
Speaker 13: wonderful couple of days and I just want to offer
Speaker 13: a great big thank you.
Speaker 5: Hey, Mary Joe, how about taking Date ou to dinner
Speaker 5: when he gets up there.
Speaker 13: I'm sure he will have a lot of opportunities to
Speaker 13: go out in Green Bay if that is his desire.
Speaker 13: He will have a lot of people who will take
Speaker 13: good care of him.
Speaker 1: Nate Poole laughed all the way to Green Bay, an
Speaker 1: all expense paid trip in January on the tax Beyar's
Speaker 1: tap as the undrafted receiver from Marshall became a grand
Speaker 1: Marshal of sorts. But don't forget about the other end
Speaker 1: of that touchdown pass QB. Josh McCown.
Speaker 8: You know, they fly Nate up to Green Bay and
Speaker 8: they give him a Kidah City or whatever they did,
Speaker 8: and they're sending us. We were getting Christmas cards from
Speaker 8: Green Bay fans that it was their family Christmas card,
Speaker 8: and you know it would you know, scratched out and
Speaker 8: Merry Christmas and thank you for beating the vikings, Go
Speaker 8: Pat go, and loads of Christmas cards mailed to the
Speaker 8: house of the Sargento family sent the best cheese basket
Speaker 8: you've ever seen your life.
Speaker 1: That was two thousand and three. But even to this day,
Speaker 1: when he's out and about, Josh McCown gets reaction for
Speaker 1: both school Nation and America's dairy lamb walking.
Speaker 8: Through an airport or whatever, and there will be, you know,
Speaker 8: a disgruntled Vikings fan and hey, you you know you
Speaker 8: owe me, you know type of thing. Or it'll be
Speaker 8: a Packers fan that'll be like, thank you for getting
Speaker 8: us in the playoffs that year, you know, we owe you.
Speaker 11: I was at home back in Minneapolis or watching that game,
Speaker 11: and I did not like Nate Poole because I thought
Speaker 11: I had a chance to be the number one pick,
Speaker 11: and I used to always.
Speaker 8: Mess with Nate.
Speaker 1: That's Minnesota native Larry Fitzgerald not only a former Vikings
Speaker 1: ball boy and their number one fan at the time,
Speaker 1: but fitz might have been the number one pick overall
Speaker 1: in the NFL draft.
Speaker 12: Me and Larry had that conversation. Believe me that he
Speaker 12: would have been the number one overall pick. We're talking
Speaker 12: in the receiver room before the meeting about being him
Speaker 12: being an number one pick. You know, as I think
Speaker 12: back to what his sided bonus was, how he didn't
Speaker 12: do too bad. At the number three pick, people.
Speaker 8: Said, well, y'all, you know you cost him the number
Speaker 8: one pick, and I go back and go, you know,
Speaker 8: I don't think Coach Green would have I think he
Speaker 8: would have picked Larry. He was gonna pick Larry, and
Speaker 8: it turned out really good for Larry and and ultimately
Speaker 8: for the Arizona Cardinals too. He helped lead that franchise,
Speaker 8: you know, through a lot of things to become a
Speaker 8: you know, a competitive franchise, and you know, to really
Speaker 8: what they are today.
Speaker 4: Walking away from that with mixed emotions of Wow, what
Speaker 4: a way to win a game, but also, oh my goodness,
Speaker 4: there goes the quarterback of the future. There goes he Like.
Speaker 1: Yep, Cardinals won the game, but lost the number one pick,
Speaker 1: which ended up being Ole Miss quarterback Eli Manning. We'll
Speaker 1: never know who knew head coach Danny Green would have
Speaker 1: picked for the Cardinals, or do we. Larry Fitzgerald says
Speaker 1: at number one he still would have been the Cardinals selection.
Speaker 11: Then he said, I would have been. That's what he
Speaker 11: told me. He felt me I would have been. But
Speaker 11: you know what, it all worked his way out. I
Speaker 11: was able to still get here and play for him.
Speaker 11: I know we didn't have the success I'd love to
Speaker 11: have for him. You know, he gave me my first
Speaker 11: two jobs I ever had as a ball boy and
Speaker 11: then as a professional athlete, and so I owe him
Speaker 11: a huge debt of gratitude and I'm just so very
Speaker 11: thankful for you know, the doors he opened.
Speaker 8: For me and my family.
Speaker 9: Touchdown Cardinals, they pull, the Cardinals win the game, the final.
Speaker 12: I brong my heart head to practice in the games
Speaker 12: every day, and I knew, you know, that's what it
Speaker 12: was about as growing up as a youngster. That was about,
Speaker 12: you know, bringing your hard hat and working out and
Speaker 12: just pushing to make the team.
Speaker 4: You know, coaches say run every route as if it's
Speaker 4: your last one. Nate Poole really did it. But it
Speaker 4: was like comical, like he went so hard. So it's
Speaker 4: pretty cool to see a guy that worked that hard
Speaker 4: have one of the biggest plays of the season, not
Speaker 4: just for the Cardinals, but for the entire league.
Speaker 6: I got to tell you people, hey, you can only
Speaker 6: do it one play at a time.
Speaker 1: I got you on that play, and needless to say,
Speaker 1: it's the play in Nate Poole's career, one of the
Speaker 1: most dramatic and consequential plays in NFL history.
Speaker 5: The Cardinals have knocked the Fighting's out of the playoffs.
Speaker 8: And Nate Poll's a good person. He's a great person
Speaker 8: to be around. And you look back at that and
Speaker 8: that's a special moment for me in my career as well.
Speaker 8: So but it couldn't happen to a better guy. Night's
Speaker 8: good dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who says good dudes finished last?
Speaker 13: Right?
Speaker 1: In fact, as Dave McGinnis said back then with a
Speaker 1: smile to the media, quote, there were two receivers on
Speaker 1: the field from Marshall that day. They had Randy Moss,
Speaker 1: we had Nathan Poole. So there you have it. Cardinals
Speaker 1: Folktales Miracle in the Desert, presented by seventy two Soul
Speaker 1: for producer jim O. Mahundro. I'm Paul Calvic and that's
Speaker 1: the story of how an unknown receiver won that day,
Speaker 1: but a Hall of fame receiver was on his way.
Speaker 4: The consolation was probably the greatest player in Cardinals history
Speaker 4: and one of the greatest receivers of all time.
Speaker 16: With the third choice in the two thousand and four
Speaker 16: NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinals select Larry Fitzgerald wide receiver,
Speaker 16: University of Fluff Cardinal.
Speaker 1: That was the Red Sea Cardinals fans at the official
Speaker 1: draft party two thousand and four welcoming Larry Fitzgerald to
Speaker 1: the Valley White, a departure from the climate a few
Speaker 1: months earlier, when many Cardinals fans viewed the win against
Speaker 1: the Vikings as a loss because the Cardinals lost out
Speaker 1: on the number one pick overall, ostensibly a franchise quarterback,
Speaker 1: which eventually was Eli Manning as the top overall pick.
Speaker 1: But that wasn't the only change in the NFL. A
Speaker 1: few years after that, the force out rule would be eliminated,
Speaker 1: and one of the main examples cited was Nate Poole,
Speaker 1: who only had one foot down in the end zone
Speaker 1: on that game winning playoff busting touchdown catch that eliminated
Speaker 1: the Vikings. When we come back, Darren urban would the
Speaker 1: Cardinals have taken a quarterback number one overall? Would it
Speaker 1: still have been Larry Fitzgerald. We'll get Darren's perspective when
Speaker 1: we come back to this very special Cardinals Folk Tales
Speaker 1: edition of the Big Red Rage Miracle in the Desert
Speaker 1: presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert and we're wrapping up
Speaker 1: this very special Cardinals Full Tales edition of the Big
Speaker 1: Red Rage present Santan Ford in Gilbert Paul Kelvicy joined
Speaker 1: by Darren Irvan Deren Irvan covered the game. Miracle in
Speaker 1: the Desert is the title of this Cardinals Folk Tales
Speaker 1: where we're going to the archives in some great, rarely
Speaker 1: heard audio that are Jim Almahundro found both from the
Speaker 1: Green Bay Radio broadcast. Also some of the audio we
Speaker 1: heard from Larry Fitzgerald and coach McGinnis Josh McCown all
Speaker 1: talking about not only the end of the game, but
Speaker 1: the start of a new era of Cardinals football in
Speaker 1: so many different ways. In fact, let's start right there, Darren,
Speaker 1: because what if what if the Cardinals had lost that game?
Speaker 1: What if they had picked number one overall? Would they
Speaker 1: still have picked Larry Fitzgerald or would they have gone
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback?
Speaker 7: You know if I think they end up taking Larry Fitzgerald,
Speaker 7: because I think Danny Green wanted Larry Fitzgerald on his team.
Speaker 7: You know, I remember so vividly in the month leading
Speaker 7: up to the draft. Denny wasn't like a lot of
Speaker 7: coaches there were oftentimes when he was, he said more
Speaker 7: than maybe then maybe he should.
Speaker 6: And I remember in those.
Speaker 7: Days, I was covering the team for the East Valley Tribune.
Speaker 7: I had come out to a day in the off
Speaker 7: season sometime in April, and I was the only writer
Speaker 7: here and the only other media member who was showing
Speaker 7: up was Brad Cemett, who was working for one of
Speaker 7: the local stations that day, and he had an interview
Speaker 7: apparently scheduled.
Speaker 6: With Denny Green.
Speaker 7: And all they did was bring Denny Green down to
Speaker 7: the media area and then they just had a camera
Speaker 7: and they were sitting there and they're having it. So
Speaker 7: as a media member, I'm going to listen to the
Speaker 7: interview and take what I can.
Speaker 6: Get from it.
Speaker 1: Hey, nobody told you you couldn't.
Speaker 7: So Denny Green is talking about and you have to
Speaker 7: remember again the draft with Ben Roethlisberger and Eli Manning
Speaker 7: and Philip Rivers, those are all available with the Cardinals
Speaker 7: picking third. And at this point, the Hardinal's quarterback was
Speaker 7: Josh McCown probably, and there were questions about Josh and
Speaker 7: whether he was gonna you know, and Denny loved Josh.
Speaker 7: He would talk him up all the time, and at
Speaker 7: one point Denny Green said, we're not going to take
Speaker 7: a quarterback third overall. Well, as a reporter, I had
Speaker 7: that in this day, this is pre internet, so I
Speaker 7: had a big banner headline the next day. Obviously, the
Speaker 7: other paper in town didn't have the story. So the
Speaker 7: next day I came back. There were other writers here.
Speaker 7: Ken Summer showed up, Bob Bomb from the Associated Press,
Speaker 7: and they get Denny Green to come down and talk
Speaker 7: and they're trying to get him to say the same
Speaker 7: thing again, and he won't do it. And finally Bob
Speaker 7: Baum says to him, kind of half jokingly, we're trying
Speaker 7: to get you to say what you told Darren yesterday,
Speaker 7: And Denny looked at him and he goes, that was yesterday.
Speaker 6: Today is today.
Speaker 1: I tell you though, that was back in the days.
Speaker 1: And we just talked about this where a quarterback wouldn't
Speaker 1: always go number one, right, And we knew Denny's affinity
Speaker 1: for Larry Fitzgerald, his former ball boy by the way
Speaker 1: in Minnesota, so he knew Larry better than anyone and
Speaker 1: fits as it came to be. Once he did get drafted,
Speaker 1: he showed up in the Cardinals locker room and there
Speaker 1: was Nate Poole. Nate Poole heard it from Larry that
Speaker 1: he cost him the number one pick overall.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, And look, it's not like the Cardinals made
Speaker 7: a poor pick by any stretch of the imagination. But
Speaker 7: you do wonder a little bit what Okay, Eli Manning
Speaker 7: went number one and then Robert Gallery went number two.
Speaker 7: But you wonder a little bit if they didn't take
Speaker 7: Fits and they take Ben Roethlisberger or they take Philip Rivers,
Speaker 7: how different does life with the Cardinals?
Speaker 6: You know, happen?
Speaker 12: Now?
Speaker 7: The Cardinals make the two thousand and eight Super Bowl
Speaker 7: because they get Kurt Warner, who has his career renaissance
Speaker 7: throwing to Akwambolden and a very very good Larry Fitzgerald.
Speaker 7: And the Cardinals don't make the super Bowl unless Larry
Speaker 7: has arguably the greatest performed postseason performance of any wide
Speaker 7: receiver ever.
Speaker 1: So, and guess what, Kurt Warner doesn't end with the
Speaker 1: Cardinals if Eli Manning doesn't end up with the Giants.
Speaker 6: So true.
Speaker 7: So, although Eli wasn't drafted by the Giants, he was
Speaker 7: drafted by the Chargers and they had to make the
Speaker 7: trade for Philip Rivers. There was a lot of intrigue
Speaker 7: with that draft.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt. Look, Nate Poole didn't have much
Speaker 1: of a career after that. Always remembered for what he
Speaker 1: did for the Green Bay Packers. Got the all expenses
Speaker 1: pay trip in January to Green Bay, gladly because he
Speaker 1: got a key to the city and everything else. But
Speaker 1: they ended up changing the force out rule in large
Speaker 1: part because of how that went down in the end
Speaker 1: zone at Sun Devil Stadium.
Speaker 7: I had no question that it was a force out play.
Speaker 7: And now you have to get feet down and if
Speaker 7: a guy pushes you out of bounds your eye, that
Speaker 7: touchdown does not count in today's NFL.
Speaker 1: So many memorable moments and memorable radio calls from that game.
Speaker 1: One of the great historic moments in Cardinals history, and
Speaker 1: it's been a pleasure reliving it, no doubt about it.
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