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<v Speaker 1>Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Paul CALVICI I'm ready. I'm one hundred percent ready.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you I'm ready. And Darren Urban, how about

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<v Speaker 1>this Herbic kid. You know, as much as I despised

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<v Speaker 1>Shakespeare in college as an English undergrad, I love a

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<v Speaker 1>good Shakespearean tragedy in football, especially when it happens to

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<v Speaker 1>the opponent. And that is why we are gathered here

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<v Speaker 1>today for this very special Cardinals Folktales edition of The

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<v Speaker 1>Big Red Rage, presented by santan Ford in Gilbert Miracle

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<v Speaker 1>in the Desert. That is the title of tonight's episode,

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<v Speaker 1>as we hit the rewind button and go back into

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals history, all time anecdotes, as we like to say,

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals folktales where you can't spell the word history without

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<v Speaker 1>the word story. Paul calvic here, Darren Urban was there

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<v Speaker 1>covered the game back in two thousand and three. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the rare game, Darren, where it was best remembered

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<v Speaker 1>for what both teams did not get. The Vikings do

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<v Speaker 1>not get a playoff Berth, the Cardinals did not get

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<v Speaker 1>the first pick in the draft. Talking about this season

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<v Speaker 1>finale two thousand and three.

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<v Speaker 6>This is true.

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<v Speaker 7>I hadn't really thought about it that but but you

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<v Speaker 7>know you going negative doesn't really surprise me that much, Paul.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, the real winner was a team that wasn't in

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<v Speaker 1>the game.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, that's true that Green Bay Packers got through the

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<v Speaker 7>playoffs because of that result, and they they did feel

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<v Speaker 7>like winners that day. And Nate Poole can attest to

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<v Speaker 7>that because he ended up in Green Bay a week

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<v Speaker 7>later at the playoff game.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, it's by far the highlight of Nate Poole's career.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, we're gonna learn.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, you tell us since you where were you,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, for Nate Pool's shining moment? Were you

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<v Speaker 1>still in the press pot?

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<v Speaker 7>In those days, all the reporters would gather in the

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<v Speaker 7>corner of the end zone, and we were down on

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<v Speaker 7>the end of the field that the Cardinals scored upon.

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<v Speaker 7>We were just on the other side. So we were

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<v Speaker 7>down there in the between the back line, the back

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<v Speaker 7>of the goal line, in about the ten yard line,

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<v Speaker 7>watching this unfold. Couldn't see exactly obviously because it was

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<v Speaker 7>on the far sideline the catch, but you could hear

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<v Speaker 7>the crowd explode. I was down there when you know,

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<v Speaker 7>Josh McCown was pleading to the official to give them

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<v Speaker 7>the call when they were going to the replay. I

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<v Speaker 7>remember that very distinctly because we were on the field

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<v Speaker 7>by then, and it was just it was an amazing

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<v Speaker 7>end to what turned out to be Dave McGinnis's career

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<v Speaker 7>as the head coach, and obviously it was a springboard

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<v Speaker 7>to them getting Larry Fitzgerald.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there was a lot of change after this game.

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<v Speaker 1>Going into the game, though, I mean, what were the

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<v Speaker 1>odds the Cardinals had a chance to really win a

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<v Speaker 1>game when they hadn't won a game in nearly two months,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Vikings needed the game to clinch a playoff spot.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, the funny thing is is, not only did anybody

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<v Speaker 7>think the Cardinals really had a chance, but even if

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<v Speaker 7>they lost, it didn't look real good for them to

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<v Speaker 7>get the number one overall pick. They needed a couple

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<v Speaker 7>of bad teams to win, and it ended up working

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<v Speaker 7>out that way if they had had lost. But then again,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, the Vikings, I'm guessing they were a little overconfident.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know. I remember watching the game from the

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<v Speaker 7>press box thinking to myself, they don't look like they're

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<v Speaker 7>ready to put this team away. The Vikings don't look

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<v Speaker 7>like they're ready to put the Cardinals away. And those

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<v Speaker 7>Cardinal teams were not good, but they did give effort.

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<v Speaker 7>And you had a lot of guys out there playing

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<v Speaker 7>for the first time or very inexperienced Josh McCown, Reggie Wells.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, you go down the list, and they just

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<v Speaker 7>didn't give up. Now, they needed some bounces there at

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<v Speaker 7>the end, for sure, but the fact they were even

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<v Speaker 7>in shouting distance of the game never should have happened.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're gonna get a full recap here because it

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<v Speaker 1>really is gripping. I mean, the first three quarters of

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<v Speaker 1>the game not so much, but it was seventeen to

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<v Speaker 1>six Vikings with under seven minutes to play. Then just

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<v Speaker 1>after the two minute warning it's a one score game.

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<v Speaker 1>You need the on sidekick Neil Rackers, right, he was

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<v Speaker 1>a master at making the ball do different things. He

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<v Speaker 1>had that soccer background, and then things just got really

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<v Speaker 1>crazy from there. I mean, with all due respect to

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<v Speaker 1>a young Dave Pash behind the mic, it's the rare

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<v Speaker 1>game where the truly memorable radio calls came from a

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<v Speaker 1>the losing team and be the team that really benefited

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<v Speaker 1>two time zones away who needed a Cardinals win more

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<v Speaker 1>than the Cardinals did.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, there's definitely some memorable calls. With all due respect

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<v Speaker 7>to Dave, I don't know if he ranks in the

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<v Speaker 7>top two there, but it was an amazing time all

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<v Speaker 7>the way around, just because of how it ended and

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<v Speaker 7>what it meant and just the memories of that game

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<v Speaker 7>and for Josh mccount and aatepool.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're going to hear how it all unfolded in

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<v Speaker 1>real time at the time two thousand and three. Heck,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a holiday season and the Cardinals rock team

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<v Speaker 1>Santa Colors, right, red, white, and black. So this was

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<v Speaker 1>their own gift, their own parting gift to the home fans.

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<v Speaker 1>And when we come back and this very special Cardinals

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<v Speaker 1>Folk Tales edition of The Big Red Rage, we'll hear

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<v Speaker 1>it for ourselves. Miracle in the Desert presented by santan Ford.

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<v Speaker 1>And welcome back into our special Cardinals Folk Tales Edition

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<v Speaker 1>of The Big Red Rage presented by Santanford and Gilbert.

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<v Speaker 1>We're in rewind into Cardinals history because remember, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>spell the word history without the word story, and boy

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<v Speaker 1>do we have one. From the final week of the

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<v Speaker 1>regular season two thousand and three, Cardinals were hosting the

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<v Speaker 1>Vikings and the Cardinals had exactly nothing to play for

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<v Speaker 1>beyond the number one pick, which they would secure with

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<v Speaker 1>the loss. The nine and six Vikings came in. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>they had started six and oh that season, but their

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<v Speaker 1>playoff hopes were on the line. They needed a win

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<v Speaker 1>to secure a postseason berth and the week before they

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<v Speaker 1>had already KOed KC forty five to twenty. That was

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<v Speaker 1>a Kansas City team that went thirteen and three in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and three. So with that in mind, not

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<v Speaker 1>many gave the Cardinals a chance. But as quarterback of

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<v Speaker 1>the time, Josh McCown would say later, Hey, you've been

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<v Speaker 1>around coach McGinnis. He can make any game feel like

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<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl. And that would be foreshadowing because coach McGinnis,

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<v Speaker 1>who was great with the media, also had a great

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<v Speaker 1>comparison between the two receivers on the field that day

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<v Speaker 1>who were college teammates once upon a time at Marshall.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll hear that a little bit later, but the Cardinals

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about Nate Poole thirty six career games in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. He managed a total of thirty four career

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<v Speaker 1>catches and two touchdowns, but at the end of his

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<v Speaker 1>brief time in the NFL, only one of those thirty

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<v Speaker 1>four receptions truly mattered. It got him a key to

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<v Speaker 1>a city, It got him a personalized phone call from

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<v Speaker 1>a mayor. It got him a local TV commercial all

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<v Speaker 1>in the city of Green Bay. So with that as

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<v Speaker 1>the background, let's hit that rewind button to Miracle in

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<v Speaker 1>the Desert. It's the final week of two thousand and three,

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<v Speaker 1>this season finale that would end the year for two teams.

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<v Speaker 5>The count throwing far side into the end zone.

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<v Speaker 9>And the ball it is touchdown tortos.

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<v Speaker 2>An unbelievable turn of evnch Not here at lambeau Field,

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<v Speaker 2>but in the desert, you would.

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<v Speaker 8>Have thought we won Super Bowl. I mean, it was

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<v Speaker 8>an unbelievable moment.

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<v Speaker 9>The Vikings are going home for the new year.

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<v Speaker 10>You just don't lose like that. Nobody loses like that.

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<v Speaker 10>Let alone to Nathan.

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<v Speaker 8>Poole, and they pulls a good person to make that play.

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<v Speaker 8>He deserves that.

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<v Speaker 1>Not one of the Minnesota Vikings are even moving right now.

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<v Speaker 11>You lose a game and it opens the door for

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<v Speaker 11>your worst enemy.

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<v Speaker 2>The Packers not only make the playoffs, they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be host of the game.

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<v Speaker 11>It was that if the sun fell out of the sky.

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<v Speaker 11>You know, it was a miserable day of existence.

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<v Speaker 1>Time that two teams played one game that stop time

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<v Speaker 1>in three cities was a Cardinals receiver in or out

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<v Speaker 1>of bounds? Were the Vikings and Packers in or out

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<v Speaker 1>of the playoffs? Who would be drafting one, two, and three?

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<v Speaker 1>All dictated by a Cardinals win that some viewed as

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<v Speaker 1>a loss.

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<v Speaker 4>I think even the fans were like, man, let's just

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<v Speaker 4>get this season over and get the number one pick

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<v Speaker 4>walk away with the Eli manning.

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<v Speaker 8>There was something to play for there. They're you know,

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<v Speaker 8>they're playing for something. We can be playing for something too.

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<v Speaker 6>He got flushed out to the right. I said, oh

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<v Speaker 6>here he come, be into the angone.

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<v Speaker 12>The count.

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<v Speaker 11>Knock me out of number one pick too. Man, I

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<v Speaker 11>probably been in the first pick of the draft. Man,

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<v Speaker 11>they cost me Nate pull Man. I'd never forgive him

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<v Speaker 11>for that. I tell them that all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Nathan poll may become a household name in Green Pay.

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<v Speaker 12>This is Mael Schmidtz. I love to get you out

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<v Speaker 12>one of the games. I said, oh no, I would

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<v Speaker 12>love to come out.

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<v Speaker 10>He was given a key to the city of Green

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<v Speaker 10>Bay and he got to go to their playoff game.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure he.

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<v Speaker 13>Will have a lot of opportunities to go out in

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<v Speaker 13>Green Bay if that is his desire. He will have

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<v Speaker 13>a lot of people who will take good care of him.

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<v Speaker 1>To the winner goes the Spoils. That's after the Cardinals

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<v Speaker 1>took care of the Vikings. All right, a big win,

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<v Speaker 1>but the big winner the Packers welcome into Cardinals Folktales

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<v Speaker 1>Miracle in the Desert presented by seventy two Souls, where

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<v Speaker 1>we go in depth into Cardinals history, all time anecdotes,

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<v Speaker 1>through the recollections and memories of those who lived in

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<v Speaker 1>or in my case, those who covered it. My name

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<v Speaker 1>is Paul Kelvic, Cardinals sideline reporter. We're talking about that

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<v Speaker 1>time when little known Nate Poole got the key to

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<v Speaker 1>a city while his own fan base lamented what it

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<v Speaker 1>did not get.

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<v Speaker 8>People said, well, y'all, you know you costing the number

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<v Speaker 8>one pick.

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<v Speaker 4>The consolation was probably the greatest player in Cardinals history

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<v Speaker 4>and one of the greatest receivers of all time.

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<v Speaker 8>Looking back, you feel bad for the Vikings.

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<v Speaker 13>Dot damn down.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh my god, I can't believe what just happened.

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<v Speaker 5>The Cardinals have knocked.

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<v Speaker 2>The Vikings out of the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the great calls, one of the great thrill

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<v Speaker 1>of victory, agony of defeat moments in NFL history, every

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<v Speaker 1>bit as much Shakespearean tragedy as season finale. December twenty eighth,

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and three. Cardinals playing for the number one

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<v Speaker 1>pick with a loss, the Vikings playing for the postseason

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<v Speaker 1>with a win or a Packers loss. Yet none of

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<v Speaker 1>the above happened. Here's former head coach Dave McGinnis and

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback Josh McCown. We gotta win a game and we

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<v Speaker 1>haven't won a game in seven weeks. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 1>need to win a ballgame. You know, there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people I know pulling force.

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<v Speaker 8>Obviously. Coach McGinnis was fantastic in front of the room.

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<v Speaker 8>He was very captivating, and that was one of the

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<v Speaker 8>things that he talked about was just the ability to

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<v Speaker 8>knock those guys off. You know, they were coming in,

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<v Speaker 8>they had to beat us, and you know they were

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<v Speaker 8>going to get into the playoffs, and so there was

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<v Speaker 8>something to play for there there. You know, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 8>just a game where we're going to roll the ball

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<v Speaker 8>out there and get it over with and go home.

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<v Speaker 8>He was like, man, this is they're playing for something.

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<v Speaker 8>We can be playing for something too.

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<v Speaker 1>In two thousand and three, it was a sixteen game season.

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals entered the final week three and twelve. The Vikings,

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<v Speaker 1>after a six and oh start, were nine and six,

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<v Speaker 1>coming off a ko of KC the week before a

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<v Speaker 1>forty five to twenty drubbing of a Chiefs team that

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<v Speaker 1>would finish thirteen and three. So all the Vikings had

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<v Speaker 1>to do what everyone expected him to do, polish off

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<v Speaker 1>a reeling Cardinals team with a quarterback making his third

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<v Speaker 1>career start, a coach about to be fired, and the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL's all time leading rusher getting peppered about his own

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<v Speaker 1>future on Christmas Eve.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, who knows we can play hypothetical all day?

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<v Speaker 5>Is Macizia great?

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<v Speaker 2>But if he's not here, people coming in, what their

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<v Speaker 2>plans are, what the ideas, and what they thought.

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<v Speaker 9>So I gotta win on all that.

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<v Speaker 2>So you asking me to make up answer to something

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<v Speaker 2>that I don't have all.

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<v Speaker 6>The information to, that's stupid. I'm not that stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, please, somebody tell you something Pleasetmas Eve?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>How about the spirit of John Inness and happiness?

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<v Speaker 1>That's former Cardinals running back and Hall of Famer Emmitt Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>And hey, no doubt what would make the Red Sea

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<v Speaker 1>jolly and happy? The number one overall pick under their tree.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Voice of the Cardinals Dave Pash was in his

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<v Speaker 1>second season in three.

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<v Speaker 4>And you endure that long of a season and you're

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<v Speaker 4>calling games for a team that's losing a lot of games,

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<v Speaker 4>the one thing is, okay, you got a chance to

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<v Speaker 4>get a franchise changing quarterback. Let's just get through this

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<v Speaker 4>and get to that draft. Get your guy, enjoy the

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<v Speaker 4>next ten years. And a couple sits like.

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<v Speaker 8>That whole year. You grow up fast in this business,

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<v Speaker 8>and you go, wait, they're gonna fire these coaches. Wait

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<v Speaker 8>a minute, they could draft a new quarterback. Like you know,

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<v Speaker 8>I was just a quarterback of the future two days ago.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, all these things. You grow really fast.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Cardinals could be Josh McCown, the third round pick

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<v Speaker 1>the year before, who earned the final three starts of

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<v Speaker 1>that O three season and tried to channel the confidence

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<v Speaker 1>that his head coach Dave McGinnis showed in him against

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<v Speaker 1>NFC North leading Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 8>I think when you look at their roster, uh, when

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<v Speaker 8>they're coming out to us with everything to play for,

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<v Speaker 8>I think it was a tall task. Uh So looking

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<v Speaker 8>at that going yeah, we're gonna beat the Minnesota Vikings.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, realistically, I don't know if that was you know,

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<v Speaker 8>if that was an easy sale for coach, but he

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<v Speaker 8>did a good job of framing that for us. And

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<v Speaker 8>and uh and I think he was, you know, benefited

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<v Speaker 8>from a young quarterback who didn't know any better and

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<v Speaker 8>just was gonna go out and play the game.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the Cardinals and Vikings from Tempe Arizona Sun Devil Stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a lot of action for the announcers to call

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<v Speaker 1>in a fifty one degree day, a virtual snooze fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Six to nothing at halftime, seven to six entering the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth quarter when Randy Moss scores on a seven yard pass.

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<v Speaker 4>Lot closer than many thought it would be, especially with

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<v Speaker 4>a playoffs spot on the line of the Vikings win,

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<v Speaker 4>they clinch their division.

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<v Speaker 5>If they lose and Green Bay wins, they're.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of the playoffs. Then, just over two minutes later,

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<v Speaker 1>a forty six yard fuel goal makes it seventeen to

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<v Speaker 1>six Vikings with six forty eight to play, but hang on.

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<v Speaker 1>On the first play after the two minute warning.

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<v Speaker 4>McCown takes play, bank rolls to his right, mccount in

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<v Speaker 4>trouble flushdown, throws ends on and going down to make

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<v Speaker 4>the catch for a touchdown of Steve Bush. Steve Bush

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<v Speaker 4>with a touchdown catch. Great improv job by Josh McCown.

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<v Speaker 1>A fourteen play touchdown drive bought. The two point conversion failed,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's seventeen to twelve Vikings, a score echoed on

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers broadcast.

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<v Speaker 2>James Minnesota leading seventeen to twelve. Remember, the only way

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<v Speaker 2>the Packers can make the playoffs now is if Minnesota

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<v Speaker 2>loses this football game somehow, some way.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the radio call at Lambeau, Wayne Larrvie and Larry

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<v Speaker 1>McCarron paying close attention nearly two thousand miles away in

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay, Cardinals are going to.

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<v Speaker 4>Try to recover an onside kick to perhaps give us

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit more time to broadcast.

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<v Speaker 14>Luckily, that day I wasn't demolition, I was recovery. And

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<v Speaker 14>you know, Josh Kobe and company went in there, you know,

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<v Speaker 14>blasting guys and right place, right time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's former Cardinals running back Damien Anderson. And that's the recipe,

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<v Speaker 1>the mentality for a successful onside kick, because that's exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what the Cardinals needed. Good news. The Cards are just

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<v Speaker 1>picked up one of the best in the business in

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<v Speaker 1>Neil Rackers.

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<v Speaker 4>So what fifty four to play? Neil Rackers is very

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<v Speaker 4>good with the on side kick.

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<v Speaker 8>We were all standing there, you know, waiting because that

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<v Speaker 8>was we knew that that was the next piece. You know,

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<v Speaker 8>you had to get that to keep the ball game going.

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<v Speaker 8>And you know, Neil hits a perfect ball and I

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<v Speaker 8>mean it was just how you drew it up, you know.

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<v Speaker 8>And Damien comes up with it.

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<v Speaker 4>Rackers with the on side kick far aside and it

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<v Speaker 4>bounce us in the air and the Cardinals have it.

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<v Speaker 4>Of the forty two Davian Anderson comes up with it

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<v Speaker 4>on the redirection and the Cards have a chance.

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<v Speaker 5>With one fifty four to play.

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<v Speaker 2>The Arizona Cardinals tried an onside kick and Larry Long

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<v Speaker 2>behold they recovered it for a minute fifty four to

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<v Speaker 2>go in that football game in the desert and the

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<v Speaker 2>Vikings leading seventeen to twelve. Well, I'm going to shut

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<v Speaker 2>up about this last game.

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<v Speaker 11>Stuff done.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they do a miracle. Keep talking about it. You

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<v Speaker 2>may be jinxing us into something good here.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe that miracle can happen.

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<v Speaker 10>You get to that onside kick and now all of

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<v Speaker 10>a sudden, all bets are off. I mean, anything can

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<v Speaker 10>happen against anybody anytime, and as we know, it did.

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<v Speaker 1>That's longtime voice of the Viking, Paul Allen. More from

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<v Speaker 1>him later, much more.

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<v Speaker 5>Saul.

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals had the ball back one fifty four left sixty

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<v Speaker 1>one yards to go, needing a touchdown. With one time out.

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<v Speaker 1>After a thirty yard pass interference and a thirteen yard

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<v Speaker 1>completion in Nate Poole, the Cardinals reached the Minnesota nine

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<v Speaker 1>with thirty nine seconds to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Meanwhile, out in the desert in Arizona, getting a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit closer. You know people are aware of this because

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<v Speaker 2>you could hear a thousand in the crowd.

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<v Speaker 1>There is definitely at everyone is out of their seats

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<v Speaker 1>in three different states. When Josh McCown is put on

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<v Speaker 1>his seat, two straight plays quit driving.

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<v Speaker 4>Of McCown looking let pump thick of account sacked back

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<v Speaker 4>at the seventeenyr line of McCown flushed out running near side,

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<v Speaker 4>lost the ball, it's loose, and the Cardinals they have

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<v Speaker 4>of the pound side out of the.

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<v Speaker 8>Twenty eight Yimmett has a presence of mind to go, Josh,

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<v Speaker 8>get up, get up. We gotta get the ball. Snap

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<v Speaker 8>we got wow, Tom House, we gotta go. So we

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<v Speaker 8>get to play call and then you know, and then

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<v Speaker 8>we you know, fortually get the boss.

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<v Speaker 14>Now you knew that was Josh skill set, Like call

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<v Speaker 14>a play that works for him, you know, get him out,

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<v Speaker 14>you know, get him out in some space so he'll

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<v Speaker 14>have a multitude of options.

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<v Speaker 4>The clock running down, under fifteen seconds left. It's fourth

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<v Speaker 4>down at twenty four, and.

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<v Speaker 5>It's gonna come down to this. They gotta throw it

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<v Speaker 5>into the end zone.

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<v Speaker 1>This is it. Fourth down, fourth and twenty five from

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty eight. The Packers and Vikings playoff hopes hanging

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<v Speaker 1>in the balance once again. Voice of the Vikings, Paul Allen.

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<v Speaker 10>There was worry and anxiety and teeth gnashing every step.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Green Bay, you still watching, you bet you?

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<v Speaker 2>And they're winding it down in Arizona. This is the

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<v Speaker 2>last gas, fourth and twenty four, back outside the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five and here we go.

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<v Speaker 5>Eight seconds seven six five four. The count with the ball.

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<v Speaker 5>This will be the last play. The count steps up,

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<v Speaker 5>rolling far side.

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<v Speaker 6>Just so happened. He got flushed, He got flushed out

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<v Speaker 6>to the right. I said, oh, here.

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<v Speaker 4>He come, the count throwing far side into the end

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<v Speaker 4>zone and the ball it is touchdown.

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<v Speaker 9>Cardinals made pool, and the Cardinals win the game on

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<v Speaker 9>the final pool and the Kings are going.

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<v Speaker 5>Home for the new year.

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<v Speaker 12>Josh Man, you know, the whole time he's running, he's rolling,

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<v Speaker 12>he's pointing to the right. I'm inside, I know he's

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<v Speaker 12>about to throw it over there and the defender he

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<v Speaker 12>had no clue.

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<v Speaker 6>He had no clue.

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<v Speaker 5>What a great crow by Josh McCown. He threw it

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<v Speaker 5>up or only Maypoole could.

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<v Speaker 9>Get it, and he did it.

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<v Speaker 8>I felt like it was just there was a connection

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<v Speaker 8>for us, you know, and so boom, there he is

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<v Speaker 8>and then the ball came out. Uh, and he makes

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<v Speaker 8>an unbelievable catch.

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<v Speaker 9>The Cardinals winning on the final play.

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<v Speaker 4>Joash mccoumb Wuen's made pool in the back of the

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<v Speaker 4>end zone on the far side.

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<v Speaker 8>You would have thought we won a super Bowl. And uh,

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<v Speaker 8>I mean it was an unbelievable moment and edit mental

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<v Speaker 8>to those guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Out there, But it meant even more to Nate Poole,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who had been cut four times and then

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<v Speaker 1>he cut loose against the visiting Vikings fans who had

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<v Speaker 1>populated and dominated Sun Devil Stadium trash talk in three

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<v Speaker 1>to two one take lso.

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<v Speaker 6>Don't come back here and next to y'all get the

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<v Speaker 6>same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Nate Poole, the living embodiment of the ups and downs

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<v Speaker 1>of an NFL game. He was something fired up while

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<v Speaker 1>those Viking fans could have been more let down. Remember,

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<v Speaker 1>Nate Poole was a player who was always in proven mode,

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<v Speaker 1>always existing on the edge of the roster, so he

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<v Speaker 1>played with an edge. We heard it right there, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's amazing when you look back out that one catch,

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<v Speaker 1>that one toe tapping catch that proved to be a

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<v Speaker 1>game winner. How it set off a domino effect, a

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<v Speaker 1>whole litany of changes that altered the history of not

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<v Speaker 1>only the Cardinals, but basically all the teams atop that

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and four draft franchise quarterbacks going two different teams,

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<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals getting themselves a Hall of Famer as well,

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<v Speaker 1>who might have gone number one overall of the Cardinals

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<v Speaker 1>were in that position, but they weren't. And the changes

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<v Speaker 1>even extended to the rule book years later. We'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to that when we come back. And don't forget Natepool

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<v Speaker 1>was not just a celebrity in Arizona. He was the

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<v Speaker 1>toast of the town in Green Bay. And we'll relive

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<v Speaker 1>all that when we come back to this very special

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals Folktales edition of the Big Red Rage Miracle in

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<v Speaker 1>the Desert, presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert. It's our

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<v Speaker 1>special Cardinals Bolk Tales edition of the Big Red Rage

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<v Speaker 1>santan Ford in Gilbert. This is where we go into

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals history, go into the archives. Can't spell the word

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<v Speaker 1>history without the word story. And we're talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>final game of the two thousand and three season. My

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<v Speaker 1>name is Paul Calvi. Seen. We started by saying, remember

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<v Speaker 1>that one time, that one game played by two teams

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and three, that stop time in three

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<v Speaker 1>different NFL cities. Remember Nate Poole, Cardinals receiver, and was

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<v Speaker 1>the in or out of bounds? We posed that question, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he was most definitely inbounds, and the Vikings were most

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<v Speaker 1>definitely out of the playoffs, and the Cardinals were out

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<v Speaker 1>of the top pick in the draft. We'll get to that,

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<v Speaker 1>but remember when it comes to the Vikings, you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about a team that not only started six to zero

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<v Speaker 1>and was on the verge of the playoffs, but that season,

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<v Speaker 1>the four worst teams in the league were the Giants,

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<v Speaker 1>the Raiders, the Chargers, and the Cardinals. Each team finished

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<v Speaker 1>four and twelve. Each one of those teams beat the Vikings,

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<v Speaker 1>So you can imagine the angst on the Minnesota side.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, their radio announcer, the voice of the Vikings.

0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Paul Allen became a meme before there even were memes

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<v Speaker 1>in social media, and that's where we rejoined this edition

0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:19.399
<v Speaker 1>of Cardinals Folktales Miracle in the Desert, and former Cardinals

0:24:19.520 --> 0:24:24.720
<v Speaker 1>quarterback Josh McCown two years later had empathy for the Vikings.

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<v Speaker 8>Looking back, like you feel bad for the Vikings because

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<v Speaker 8>they were right there on the cusp and to lose

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<v Speaker 8>that way, man, that's bitter.

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<v Speaker 1>Nate Pool's game winning, playoff busting, last second, fourth down

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown catch was one of his two two career touchdowns,

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<v Speaker 1>leaving the Vikings on the outside of the playoff picture

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<v Speaker 1>looking in as radio voice Paul Allen and company were

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<v Speaker 1>left in a state of utter disbelief.

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<v Speaker 10>People were just staring longingly on the team bust to

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<v Speaker 10>the airport. Nobody knew what to say, and they were

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<v Speaker 10>just downtrodden.

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<v Speaker 5>And you just don't lose like that.

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<v Speaker 10>Nobody loses like that, let alone to Nathan Poole, not

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<v Speaker 10>ang Kwam Bolden. So I mean, now as we connect

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<v Speaker 10>the dots, you know, of the entire thing over twenty years,

0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:20.480
<v Speaker 10>it hits me so vividly because of how emotional it

0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:23.240
<v Speaker 10>was at that moment. The season's on the line, two

0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:24.520
<v Speaker 10>receivers left and right.

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<v Speaker 5>McCown takes the snap.

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<v Speaker 6>He steps up, he's all by himself, fires into.

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<v Speaker 9>The end zone.

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<v Speaker 8>Dods Dods down.

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<v Speaker 10>No, no, the Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out of

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<v Speaker 10>the playoffs. The previous owner of the team, Red McCombs,

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<v Speaker 10>hated that call. He didn't let me know, but he

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<v Speaker 10>let others know. Some vice presidents here, so you know,

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<v Speaker 10>I had some conversations with some vice presidents and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, you don't script moments like that, and that's

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<v Speaker 10>what came out. So I had to deal with that

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<v Speaker 10>very young and my career.

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<v Speaker 4>I understand where Paul's coming from. You get invested in

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<v Speaker 4>the team. It's your team, and I thought Paul handled

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<v Speaker 4>it perfectly. Some people might say, uh, it's not professional,

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<v Speaker 4>but that's how the fans feeling.

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<v Speaker 8>No, are you kidding?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 5>That was Paul's reaction.

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<v Speaker 10>One thing I remember about the call is I looked

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<v Speaker 10>to my left where the coaches were, and our linebackers

0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:26.280
<v Speaker 10>coach at that time, he bursage. He could hear me

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<v Speaker 10>through the glass yelling no, no, no, no, and then

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<v Speaker 10>I came down. The Gardinals have knocked the Vikings out

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<v Speaker 10>of the playoffs. The Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out

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<v Speaker 10>of the playoffs. The way he looked at me, it

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<v Speaker 10>was not anger at me. It was one of two things.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh my god, I can't believe what just happened. Oh

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<v Speaker 10>my god, that check that I was going to get

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<v Speaker 10>for a playoff bonus, it just went up into the tenpiece.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy from Minnesota fans saying you sunk my Viking ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Just the sheer agony of it all to the utter

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<v Speaker 1>ecstasy of cheesehead nation listening on the Packers radio network,

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<v Speaker 1>and here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>This is if the season for the Packers. On the

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<v Speaker 2>line into the end zone, accounts pack.

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<v Speaker 13>Hey Jo.

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<v Speaker 9>Got cutting down. It is as on Pacos.

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<v Speaker 1>By label, complete deadlock from Wayne Larity and Larry McCarron

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<v Speaker 1>reacting to a game they're not even calling, just watching

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<v Speaker 1>from two thousand miles away.

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<v Speaker 5>Patters the biggest amercon on the Packers.

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<v Speaker 9>Sadly any reps the Packers.

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<v Speaker 2>They finally realized there's any rep I'm a final playoff.

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<v Speaker 2>The regular season for the Fight teams they lose eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>to seventeen.

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<v Speaker 5>The Packers not only.

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<v Speaker 6>Make the playoffs, they're gonna be host of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>True Rrett Farv and the Packers would host the Seahawks

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<v Speaker 1>at Lambeau to open the playoffs. Later, Dave mcginni shared

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<v Speaker 1>with the media that Packers coach Mike Sherman and GM

0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Mark Hadley called him and said, quote, you're a bleeping

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<v Speaker 1>king here in Green Bay. The thing is back in Tempee,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of coach mac different emotions, a different reality started

0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 1>to set in as the Cardinals locker room grew quiet,

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<v Speaker 1>almost somber.

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<v Speaker 15>For all that we've been through, we never quit on

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<v Speaker 15>each other. It was a constant, constant reminder of what

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<v Speaker 15>character I've got in this room.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never been afraid to tell you that I love you.

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<v Speaker 8>It was somber, and it's very soberinging. You're just like, man,

0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 8>back to reality. This is what we're faced with. And

0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:01.480
<v Speaker 8>he was genuine with his and you know, and how

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 8>I cared about guys, and so I think he understood

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:06.240
<v Speaker 8>in that moment that that was probably, you know, the

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<v Speaker 8>last time or one of the last times he was

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<v Speaker 8>going to address this as a group.

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<v Speaker 15>I've never been afraid to open myself to you because

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 15>you've got my heart. You've got my heart, you know.

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<v Speaker 8>It's a roller coaster, really, because you were just as

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 8>high as it gets. You know, for fifteen twenty minutes,

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:29.800
<v Speaker 8>they're celebrating and enjoying one another, and then you know,

0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 8>the business sets in.

0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 15>When Nate Poole gave me this ball that he caught,

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<v Speaker 15>What did I tell you last night? I cut this

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<v Speaker 15>man four times. I cut him four times, and every

0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 15>time I did, he stood up in my office and

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<v Speaker 15>hugged me and said, Mac, if you need me, I'll

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<v Speaker 15>be back because you're the only man I want to

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<v Speaker 15>play for.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the way I know that all of you

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<v Speaker 1>feel right now.

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 6>It was real motion on It was like you know,

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<v Speaker 6>your last family hug.

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<v Speaker 12>You know, and you know, and it hurt because we know,

0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:04.880
<v Speaker 12>you know, he's a player's coach and he loved the players.

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:08.520
<v Speaker 12>He want the players to do do you know, to excel,

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<v Speaker 12>to be really great?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I feel for you?

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<v Speaker 14>You know what I feel for you.

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<v Speaker 15>This was a tremendous, tremendous demonstration of men that not

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<v Speaker 15>only love each other, but believe, believe, believe.

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<v Speaker 12>You know, most of us felt like we let Dave

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<v Speaker 12>down because you know, we didn't come up on the

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<v Speaker 12>winning side of a lot of these games to keep

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:33.240
<v Speaker 12>him around.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll never ever give up on you. I love you.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>On the very next day, with a foreign twall season

0:30:42.720 --> 0:30:47.000
<v Speaker 1>in the books, Cardinals head coach Dave McGinnis was indeed fired.

0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Vikings head coach Mike Tye survived despite the Vikings collapse

0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:54.960
<v Speaker 1>after that six and oh start. As for the Packers,

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<v Speaker 1>the party was just starting and Napool's celebrity was growing.

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<v Speaker 2>Nathan Pool, of all people, how about that, Nathan Pull

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 2>may become a household name in green Bay.

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<v Speaker 10>It was an amazing play. But you know, like I

0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:21.720
<v Speaker 10>say about Nathan, and I'm not being disparaging here, but

0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 10>that was his fifteen minutes of fame. And then of

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<v Speaker 10>course the next week he was given a key to

0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 10>the city of Green Bay and he got to go

0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 10>to their playoff game, and.

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<v Speaker 1>That is accurate. Nate Poole, who going into the season

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<v Speaker 1>finale had eight catches all season and no touchdowns, was

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<v Speaker 1>now Packers royalty, to the point where he got a

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:44.960
<v Speaker 1>call from the mayor of Green Bay.

0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 12>So Mayor Schmitz gave me a call and I was like, oh,

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 12>here we go. Stop calling my phone because I'm thinking

0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:54.880
<v Speaker 12>it's a player, and I'm thinking he's gonna call that

0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:56.560
<v Speaker 12>player's gonna call me back and say.

0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:58.240
<v Speaker 6>Man, dude, what are you doing? Then I got a

0:31:58.280 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 6>call right back. It was the same number, and I'm like, okay, hey,

0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 6>how you doing this in April? And he was like, Hey, Nate, no,

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:06.920
<v Speaker 6>this is not a joke.

0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:09.040
<v Speaker 12>This is Mayor Schmidt. I love to get you out

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 12>in a speed talking. I love to get you out

0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:12.080
<v Speaker 12>to one of the games.

0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:14.440
<v Speaker 6>I said, oh no, I would love to come out.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's not the only call he got that week.

0:32:17.360 --> 0:32:20.440
<v Speaker 1>On the Big Red Rage radio show with host Dave Pash,

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:24.640
<v Speaker 1>a Packers fan dialed in from the Midwest line too.

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:27.520
<v Speaker 5>Dave, Mary, Joe, Mary Joe, Welcome to the Big Red Rage.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, Joe.

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<v Speaker 13>Hey, guys, thanks a lot. I was just calling to

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<v Speaker 13>wish Nate a wonderful time in Green Bay and to

0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:39.600
<v Speaker 13>give him a huge thank you. Since the Vikings started

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 13>off six and oh this year, I've been taking a

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 13>lot of grief for getting a lot of grief from

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:46.760
<v Speaker 13>my friends who are Viking fans, and I would roll

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:50.120
<v Speaker 13>my eyes and just say, oh, you know, won't you

0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:53.160
<v Speaker 13>ever learn? The Vikings will find some way to implode

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 13>again this year and sweet revenge. It has been a

0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:00.720
<v Speaker 13>wonderful couple of days and I just want to offer

0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:02.440
<v Speaker 13>a great big thank you.

0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 5>Hey, Mary Joe, how about taking Date ou to dinner

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 5>when he gets up there.

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:08.840
<v Speaker 13>I'm sure he will have a lot of opportunities to

0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 13>go out in Green Bay if that is his desire.

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:12.760
<v Speaker 13>He will have a lot of people who will take

0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 13>good care of him.

0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Nate Poole laughed all the way to Green Bay, an

0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:23.600
<v Speaker 1>all expense paid trip in January on the tax Beyar's

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Speaker 1>tap as the undrafted receiver from Marshall became a grand

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Marshal of sorts. But don't forget about the other end

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:34.240
<v Speaker 1>of that touchdown pass QB. Josh McCown.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, they fly Nate up to Green Bay and

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 8>they give him a Kidah City or whatever they did,

0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:42.880
<v Speaker 8>and they're sending us. We were getting Christmas cards from

0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:46.640
<v Speaker 8>Green Bay fans that it was their family Christmas card,

0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:48.680
<v Speaker 8>and you know it would you know, scratched out and

0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:51.880
<v Speaker 8>Merry Christmas and thank you for beating the vikings, Go

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:55.640
<v Speaker 8>Pat go, and loads of Christmas cards mailed to the

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<v Speaker 8>house of the Sargento family sent the best cheese basket

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<v Speaker 8>you've ever seen your life.

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:03.520
<v Speaker 1>That was two thousand and three. But even to this day,

0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:07.560
<v Speaker 1>when he's out and about, Josh McCown gets reaction for

0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:11.440
<v Speaker 1>both school Nation and America's dairy lamb walking.

0:34:11.200 --> 0:34:14.000
<v Speaker 8>Through an airport or whatever, and there will be, you know,

0:34:14.080 --> 0:34:17.320
<v Speaker 8>a disgruntled Vikings fan and hey, you you know you

0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:19.279
<v Speaker 8>owe me, you know type of thing. Or it'll be

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:21.799
<v Speaker 8>a Packers fan that'll be like, thank you for getting

0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:23.719
<v Speaker 8>us in the playoffs that year, you know, we owe you.

0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:32.080
<v Speaker 11>I was at home back in Minneapolis or watching that game,

0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:34.000
<v Speaker 11>and I did not like Nate Poole because I thought

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:35.480
<v Speaker 11>I had a chance to be the number one pick,

0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:36.560
<v Speaker 11>and I used to always.

0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:36.879
<v Speaker 8>Mess with Nate.

0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 1>That's Minnesota native Larry Fitzgerald not only a former Vikings

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:43.799
<v Speaker 1>ball boy and their number one fan at the time,

0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:47.719
<v Speaker 1>but fitz might have been the number one pick overall

0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:49.360
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL draft.

0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:53.440
<v Speaker 12>Me and Larry had that conversation. Believe me that he

0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:55.960
<v Speaker 12>would have been the number one overall pick. We're talking

0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:59.600
<v Speaker 12>in the receiver room before the meeting about being him

0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:02.120
<v Speaker 12>being an number one pick. You know, as I think

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:04.839
<v Speaker 12>back to what his sided bonus was, how he didn't

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 12>do too bad. At the number three pick, people.

0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 8>Said, well, y'all, you know you cost him the number

0:35:10.080 --> 0:35:11.719
<v Speaker 8>one pick, and I go back and go, you know,

0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:13.279
<v Speaker 8>I don't think Coach Green would have I think he

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:16.560
<v Speaker 8>would have picked Larry. He was gonna pick Larry, and

0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:19.880
<v Speaker 8>it turned out really good for Larry and and ultimately

0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:22.400
<v Speaker 8>for the Arizona Cardinals too. He helped lead that franchise,

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:26.400
<v Speaker 8>you know, through a lot of things to become a

0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:29.239
<v Speaker 8>you know, a competitive franchise, and you know, to really

0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:29.960
<v Speaker 8>what they are today.

0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:32.840
<v Speaker 4>Walking away from that with mixed emotions of Wow, what

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:35.880
<v Speaker 4>a way to win a game, but also, oh my goodness,

0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:39.880
<v Speaker 4>there goes the quarterback of the future. There goes he Like.

0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:43.799
<v Speaker 1>Yep, Cardinals won the game, but lost the number one pick,

0:35:44.040 --> 0:35:48.319
<v Speaker 1>which ended up being Ole Miss quarterback Eli Manning. We'll

0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:50.600
<v Speaker 1>never know who knew head coach Danny Green would have

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:54.399
<v Speaker 1>picked for the Cardinals, or do we. Larry Fitzgerald says

0:35:54.560 --> 0:35:57.760
<v Speaker 1>at number one he still would have been the Cardinals selection.

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<v Speaker 11>Then he said, I would have been. That's what he

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<v Speaker 11>told me. He felt me I would have been. But

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<v Speaker 11>you know what, it all worked his way out. I

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<v Speaker 11>was able to still get here and play for him.

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<v Speaker 11>I know we didn't have the success I'd love to

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<v Speaker 11>have for him. You know, he gave me my first

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<v Speaker 11>two jobs I ever had as a ball boy and

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<v Speaker 11>then as a professional athlete, and so I owe him

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<v Speaker 11>a huge debt of gratitude and I'm just so very

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<v Speaker 11>thankful for you know, the doors he opened.

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<v Speaker 8>For me and my family.

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<v Speaker 9>Touchdown Cardinals, they pull, the Cardinals win the game, the final.

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<v Speaker 12>I brong my heart head to practice in the games

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<v Speaker 12>every day, and I knew, you know, that's what it

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<v Speaker 12>was about as growing up as a youngster. That was about,

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<v Speaker 12>you know, bringing your hard hat and working out and

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<v Speaker 12>just pushing to make the team.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, coaches say run every route as if it's

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<v Speaker 4>your last one. Nate Poole really did it. But it

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<v Speaker 4>was like comical, like he went so hard. So it's

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<v Speaker 4>pretty cool to see a guy that worked that hard

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<v Speaker 4>have one of the biggest plays of the season, not

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<v Speaker 4>just for the Cardinals, but for the entire league.

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<v Speaker 6>I got to tell you people, hey, you can only

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<v Speaker 6>do it one play at a time.

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<v Speaker 1>I got you on that play, and needless to say,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the play in Nate Poole's career, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most dramatic and consequential plays in NFL history.

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<v Speaker 5>The Cardinals have knocked the Fighting's out of the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 8>And Nate Poll's a good person. He's a great person

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<v Speaker 8>to be around. And you look back at that and

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<v Speaker 8>that's a special moment for me in my career as well.

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<v Speaker 8>So but it couldn't happen to a better guy. Night's

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<v Speaker 8>good dude.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, who says good dudes finished last?

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<v Speaker 13>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, as Dave McGinnis said back then with a

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<v Speaker 1>smile to the media, quote, there were two receivers on

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<v Speaker 1>the field from Marshall that day. They had Randy Moss,

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<v Speaker 1>we had Nathan Poole. So there you have it. Cardinals

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<v Speaker 1>Folktales Miracle in the Desert, presented by seventy two Soul

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<v Speaker 1>for producer jim O. Mahundro. I'm Paul Calvic and that's

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<v Speaker 1>the story of how an unknown receiver won that day,

0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:04.439
<v Speaker 1>but a Hall of fame receiver was on his way.

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<v Speaker 4>The consolation was probably the greatest player in Cardinals history

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<v Speaker 4>and one of the greatest receivers of all time.

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<v Speaker 16>With the third choice in the two thousand and four

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<v Speaker 16>NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinals select Larry Fitzgerald wide receiver,

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<v Speaker 16>University of Fluff Cardinal.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the Red Sea Cardinals fans at the official

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<v Speaker 1>draft party two thousand and four welcoming Larry Fitzgerald to

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<v Speaker 1>the Valley White, a departure from the climate a few

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<v Speaker 1>months earlier, when many Cardinals fans viewed the win against

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<v Speaker 1>the Vikings as a loss because the Cardinals lost out

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<v Speaker 1>on the number one pick overall, ostensibly a franchise quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>which eventually was Eli Manning as the top overall pick.

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<v Speaker 1>But that wasn't the only change in the NFL. A

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<v Speaker 1>few years after that, the force out rule would be eliminated,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of the main examples cited was Nate Poole,

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<v Speaker 1>who only had one foot down in the end zone

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<v Speaker 1>on that game winning playoff busting touchdown catch that eliminated

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<v Speaker 1>the Vikings. When we come back, Darren urban would the

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals have taken a quarterback number one overall? Would it

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<v Speaker 1>still have been Larry Fitzgerald. We'll get Darren's perspective when

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<v Speaker 1>we come back to this very special Cardinals Folk Tales

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<v Speaker 1>edition of the Big Red Rage Miracle in the Desert

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<v Speaker 1>presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert and we're wrapping up

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<v Speaker 1>this very special Cardinals Full Tales edition of the Big

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<v Speaker 1>Red Rage present Santan Ford in Gilbert Paul Kelvicy joined

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<v Speaker 1>by Darren Irvan Deren Irvan covered the game. Miracle in

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<v Speaker 1>the Desert is the title of this Cardinals Folk Tales

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<v Speaker 1>where we're going to the archives in some great, rarely

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<v Speaker 1>heard audio that are Jim Almahundro found both from the

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay Radio broadcast. Also some of the audio we

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<v Speaker 1>heard from Larry Fitzgerald and coach McGinnis Josh McCown all

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<v Speaker 1>talking about not only the end of the game, but

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<v Speaker 1>the start of a new era of Cardinals football in

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<v Speaker 1>so many different ways. In fact, let's start right there, Darren,

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<v Speaker 1>because what if what if the Cardinals had lost that game?

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<v Speaker 1>What if they had picked number one overall? Would they

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<v Speaker 1>still have picked Larry Fitzgerald or would they have gone

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<v Speaker 1>franchise quarterback?

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<v Speaker 7>You know if I think they end up taking Larry Fitzgerald,

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<v Speaker 7>because I think Danny Green wanted Larry Fitzgerald on his team.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I remember so vividly in the month leading

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<v Speaker 7>up to the draft. Denny wasn't like a lot of

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<v Speaker 7>coaches there were oftentimes when he was, he said more

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<v Speaker 7>than maybe then maybe he should.

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<v Speaker 6>And I remember in those.

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<v Speaker 7>Days, I was covering the team for the East Valley Tribune.

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<v Speaker 7>I had come out to a day in the off

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<v Speaker 7>season sometime in April, and I was the only writer

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<v Speaker 7>here and the only other media member who was showing

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<v Speaker 7>up was Brad Cemett, who was working for one of

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<v Speaker 7>the local stations that day, and he had an interview

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<v Speaker 7>apparently scheduled.

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<v Speaker 6>With Denny Green.

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<v Speaker 7>And all they did was bring Denny Green down to

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<v Speaker 7>the media area and then they just had a camera

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<v Speaker 7>and they were sitting there and they're having it. So

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<v Speaker 7>as a media member, I'm going to listen to the

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<v Speaker 7>interview and take what I can.

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<v Speaker 6>Get from it.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, nobody told you you couldn't.

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<v Speaker 7>So Denny Green is talking about and you have to

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<v Speaker 7>remember again the draft with Ben Roethlisberger and Eli Manning

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<v Speaker 7>and Philip Rivers, those are all available with the Cardinals

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<v Speaker 7>picking third. And at this point, the Hardinal's quarterback was

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<v Speaker 7>Josh McCown probably, and there were questions about Josh and

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<v Speaker 7>whether he was gonna you know, and Denny loved Josh.

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<v Speaker 7>He would talk him up all the time, and at

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<v Speaker 7>one point Denny Green said, we're not going to take

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<v Speaker 7>a quarterback third overall. Well, as a reporter, I had

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<v Speaker 7>that in this day, this is pre internet, so I

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<v Speaker 7>had a big banner headline the next day. Obviously, the

0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:27.200
<v Speaker 7>other paper in town didn't have the story. So the

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<v Speaker 7>next day I came back. There were other writers here.

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<v Speaker 7>Ken Summer showed up, Bob Bomb from the Associated Press,

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<v Speaker 7>and they get Denny Green to come down and talk

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<v Speaker 7>and they're trying to get him to say the same

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<v Speaker 7>thing again, and he won't do it. And finally Bob

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<v Speaker 7>Baum says to him, kind of half jokingly, we're trying

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<v Speaker 7>to get you to say what you told Darren yesterday,

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<v Speaker 7>And Denny looked at him and he goes, that was yesterday.

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<v Speaker 6>Today is today.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you though, that was back in the days.

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<v Speaker 1>And we just talked about this where a quarterback wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>always go number one, right, And we knew Denny's affinity

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<v Speaker 1>for Larry Fitzgerald, his former ball boy by the way

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<v Speaker 1>in Minnesota, so he knew Larry better than anyone and

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<v Speaker 1>fits as it came to be. Once he did get drafted,

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<v Speaker 1>he showed up in the Cardinals locker room and there

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<v Speaker 1>was Nate Poole. Nate Poole heard it from Larry that

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<v Speaker 1>he cost him the number one pick overall.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah, And look, it's not like the Cardinals made

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<v Speaker 7>a poor pick by any stretch of the imagination. But

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<v Speaker 7>you do wonder a little bit what Okay, Eli Manning

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<v Speaker 7>went number one and then Robert Gallery went number two.

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<v Speaker 7>But you wonder a little bit if they didn't take

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<v Speaker 7>Fits and they take Ben Roethlisberger or they take Philip Rivers,

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<v Speaker 7>how different does life with the Cardinals?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, happen?

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<v Speaker 12>Now?

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<v Speaker 7>The Cardinals make the two thousand and eight Super Bowl

0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:44.000
<v Speaker 7>because they get Kurt Warner, who has his career renaissance

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<v Speaker 7>throwing to Akwambolden and a very very good Larry Fitzgerald.

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<v Speaker 7>And the Cardinals don't make the super Bowl unless Larry

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<v Speaker 7>has arguably the greatest performed postseason performance of any wide

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<v Speaker 7>receiver ever.

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<v Speaker 1>So, and guess what, Kurt Warner doesn't end with the

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals if Eli Manning doesn't end up with the Giants.

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<v Speaker 6>So true.

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<v Speaker 7>So, although Eli wasn't drafted by the Giants, he was

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<v Speaker 7>drafted by the Chargers and they had to make the

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<v Speaker 7>trade for Philip Rivers. There was a lot of intrigue

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<v Speaker 7>with that draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's no doubt. Look, Nate Poole didn't have much

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<v Speaker 1>of a career after that. Always remembered for what he

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<v Speaker 1>did for the Green Bay Packers. Got the all expenses

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<v Speaker 1>pay trip in January to Green Bay, gladly because he

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<v Speaker 1>got a key to the city and everything else. But

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<v Speaker 1>they ended up changing the force out rule in large

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<v Speaker 1>part because of how that went down in the end

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<v Speaker 1>zone at Sun Devil Stadium.

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<v Speaker 7>I had no question that it was a force out play.

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<v Speaker 7>And now you have to get feet down and if

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<v Speaker 7>a guy pushes you out of bounds your eye, that

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<v Speaker 7>touchdown does not count in today's NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>So many memorable moments and memorable radio calls from that game.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the great historic moments in Cardinals history, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a pleasure reliving it, no doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Miracle in the Desert Cardinals folk Tale special thanks to

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