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And that is why we are gathered here 21 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: today for this very special Cardinals Folktales edition of The 22 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: Big Red Rage, presented by santan Ford in Gilbert Miracle 23 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: in the Desert. That is the title of tonight's episode, 24 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: as we hit the rewind button and go back into 25 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: Cardinals history, all time anecdotes, as we like to say, 26 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: Cardinals folktales where you can't spell the word history without 27 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 1: the word story. Paul calvic here, Darren Urban was there 28 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: covered the game back in two thousand and three. This 29 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: is the rare game, Darren, where it was best remembered 30 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: for what both teams did not get. The Vikings do 31 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: not get a playoff Berth, the Cardinals did not get 32 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: the first pick in the draft. Talking about this season 33 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: finale two thousand and three. 34 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 6: This is true. 35 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 7: I hadn't really thought about it that but but you 36 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 7: know you going negative doesn't really surprise me that much, Paul. 37 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: Look, the real winner was a team that wasn't in 38 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: the game. 39 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 7: Yes, that's true that Green Bay Packers got through the 40 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 7: playoffs because of that result, and they they did feel 41 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 7: like winners that day. And Nate Poole can attest to 42 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 7: that because he ended up in Green Bay a week 43 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 7: later at the playoff game. 44 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 8: Yes. 45 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's by far the highlight of Nate Poole's career. 46 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 6: Yes, we're gonna learn. 47 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: In fact, you tell us since you where were you, 48 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: by the way, for Nate Pool's shining moment? Were you 49 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: still in the press pot? 50 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 7: In those days, all the reporters would gather in the 51 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 7: corner of the end zone, and we were down on 52 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 7: the end of the field that the Cardinals scored upon. 53 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 7: We were just on the other side. So we were 54 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 7: down there in the between the back line, the back 55 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 7: of the goal line, in about the ten yard line, 56 00:02:55,280 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 7: watching this unfold. Couldn't see exactly obviously because it was 57 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 7: on the far sideline the catch, but you could hear 58 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 7: the crowd explode. I was down there when you know, 59 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 7: Josh McCown was pleading to the official to give them 60 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 7: the call when they were going to the replay. I 61 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 7: remember that very distinctly because we were on the field 62 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 7: by then, and it was just it was an amazing 63 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 7: end to what turned out to be Dave McGinnis's career 64 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 7: as the head coach, and obviously it was a springboard 65 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 7: to them getting Larry Fitzgerald. 66 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a lot of change after this game. 67 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: Going into the game, though, I mean, what were the 68 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: odds the Cardinals had a chance to really win a 69 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: game when they hadn't won a game in nearly two months, 70 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: and the Vikings needed the game to clinch a playoff spot. 71 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 7: Well, the funny thing is is, not only did anybody 72 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 7: think the Cardinals really had a chance, but even if 73 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 7: they lost, it didn't look real good for them to 74 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 7: get the number one overall pick. They needed a couple 75 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 7: of bad teams to win, and it ended up working 76 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 7: out that way if they had had lost. But then again, 77 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 7: you know, the Vikings, I'm guessing they were a little overconfident. 78 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 7: I don't know. I remember watching the game from the 79 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 7: press box thinking to myself, they don't look like they're 80 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 7: ready to put this team away. The Vikings don't look 81 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 7: like they're ready to put the Cardinals away. And those 82 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 7: Cardinal teams were not good, but they did give effort. 83 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 7: And you had a lot of guys out there playing 84 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 7: for the first time or very inexperienced Josh McCown, Reggie Wells. 85 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 7: I mean, you go down the list, and they just 86 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 7: didn't give up. Now, they needed some bounces there at 87 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 7: the end, for sure, but the fact they were even 88 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 7: in shouting distance of the game never should have happened. 89 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: And we're gonna get a full recap here because it 90 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: really is gripping. I mean, the first three quarters of 91 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: the game not so much, but it was seventeen to 92 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: six Vikings with under seven minutes to play. Then just 93 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: after the two minute warning it's a one score game. 94 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: You need the on sidekick Neil Rackers, right, he was 95 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: a master at making the ball do different things. He 96 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: had that soccer background, and then things just got really 97 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: crazy from there. I mean, with all due respect to 98 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: a young Dave Pash behind the mic, it's the rare 99 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: game where the truly memorable radio calls came from a 100 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: the losing team and be the team that really benefited 101 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: two time zones away who needed a Cardinals win more 102 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: than the Cardinals did. 103 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 7: Yeah, there's definitely some memorable calls. With all due respect 104 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 7: to Dave, I don't know if he ranks in the 105 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 7: top two there, but it was an amazing time all 106 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 7: the way around, just because of how it ended and 107 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 7: what it meant and just the memories of that game 108 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 7: and for Josh mccount and aatepool. 109 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: And we're going to hear how it all unfolded in 110 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: real time at the time two thousand and three. Heck, 111 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: it was a holiday season and the Cardinals rock team 112 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: Santa Colors, right, red, white, and black. So this was 113 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: their own gift, their own parting gift to the home fans. 114 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: And when we come back and this very special Cardinals 115 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: Folk Tales edition of The Big Red Rage, we'll hear 116 00:05:55,360 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: it for ourselves. Miracle in the Desert presented by santan Ford. 117 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: And welcome back into our special Cardinals Folk Tales Edition 118 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: of The Big Red Rage presented by Santanford and Gilbert. 119 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: We're in rewind into Cardinals history because remember, you can't 120 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: spell the word history without the word story, and boy 121 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: do we have one. From the final week of the 122 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: regular season two thousand and three, Cardinals were hosting the 123 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 1: Vikings and the Cardinals had exactly nothing to play for 124 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: beyond the number one pick, which they would secure with 125 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: the loss. The nine and six Vikings came in. Remember 126 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: they had started six and oh that season, but their 127 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: playoff hopes were on the line. They needed a win 128 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: to secure a postseason berth and the week before they 129 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: had already KOed KC forty five to twenty. That was 130 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: a Kansas City team that went thirteen and three in 131 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: two thousand and three. So with that in mind, not 132 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: many gave the Cardinals a chance. But as quarterback of 133 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: the time, Josh McCown would say later, Hey, you've been 134 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: around coach McGinnis. He can make any game feel like 135 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. And that would be foreshadowing because coach McGinnis, 136 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: who was great with the media, also had a great 137 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: comparison between the two receivers on the field that day 138 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: who were college teammates once upon a time at Marshall. 139 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: We'll hear that a little bit later, but the Cardinals 140 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: were talking about Nate Poole thirty six career games in 141 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: the NFL. He managed a total of thirty four career 142 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: catches and two touchdowns, but at the end of his 143 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,679 Speaker 1: brief time in the NFL, only one of those thirty 144 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: four receptions truly mattered. It got him a key to 145 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: a city, It got him a personalized phone call from 146 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: a mayor. It got him a local TV commercial all 147 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: in the city of Green Bay. So with that as 148 00:07:55,880 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: the background, let's hit that rewind button to Miracle in 149 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: the Desert. It's the final week of two thousand and three, 150 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: this season finale that would end the year for two teams. 151 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 5: The count throwing far side into the end zone. 152 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 9: And the ball it is touchdown tortos. 153 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 2: An unbelievable turn of evnch Not here at lambeau Field, 154 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 2: but in the desert, you would. 155 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 8: Have thought we won Super Bowl. I mean, it was 156 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 8: an unbelievable moment. 157 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 9: The Vikings are going home for the new year. 158 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 10: You just don't lose like that. Nobody loses like that. 159 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 10: Let alone to Nathan. 160 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 8: Poole, and they pulls a good person to make that play. 161 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 8: He deserves that. 162 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 1: Not one of the Minnesota Vikings are even moving right now. 163 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 11: You lose a game and it opens the door for 164 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 11: your worst enemy. 165 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 2: The Packers not only make the playoffs, they're going to 166 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 2: be host of the game. 167 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 11: It was that if the sun fell out of the sky. 168 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 11: You know, it was a miserable day of existence. 169 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: Time that two teams played one game that stop time 170 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: in three cities was a Cardinals receiver in or out 171 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: of bounds? Were the Vikings and Packers in or out 172 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: of the playoffs? Who would be drafting one, two, and three? 173 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: All dictated by a Cardinals win that some viewed as 174 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: a loss. 175 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 4: I think even the fans were like, man, let's just 176 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 4: get this season over and get the number one pick 177 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 4: walk away with the Eli manning. 178 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 8: There was something to play for there. They're you know, 179 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 8: they're playing for something. We can be playing for something too. 180 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 6: He got flushed out to the right. I said, oh 181 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 6: here he come, be into the angone. 182 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 12: The count. 183 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 11: Knock me out of number one pick too. Man, I 184 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 11: probably been in the first pick of the draft. Man, 185 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 11: they cost me Nate pull Man. I'd never forgive him 186 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 11: for that. I tell them that all the time. 187 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: Nathan poll may become a household name in Green Pay. 188 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 12: This is Mael Schmidtz. I love to get you out 189 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 12: one of the games. I said, oh no, I would 190 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 12: love to come out. 191 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 10: He was given a key to the city of Green 192 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 10: Bay and he got to go to their playoff game. 193 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 3: I'm sure he. 194 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 13: Will have a lot of opportunities to go out in 195 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 13: Green Bay if that is his desire. He will have 196 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 13: a lot of people who will take good care of him. 197 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: To the winner goes the Spoils. That's after the Cardinals 198 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: took care of the Vikings. All right, a big win, 199 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: but the big winner the Packers welcome into Cardinals Folktales 200 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: Miracle in the Desert presented by seventy two Souls, where 201 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: we go in depth into Cardinals history, all time anecdotes, 202 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: through the recollections and memories of those who lived in 203 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: or in my case, those who covered it. My name 204 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: is Paul Kelvic, Cardinals sideline reporter. We're talking about that 205 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: time when little known Nate Poole got the key to 206 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: a city while his own fan base lamented what it 207 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: did not get. 208 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 8: People said, well, y'all, you know you costing the number 209 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 8: one pick. 210 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 4: The consolation was probably the greatest player in Cardinals history 211 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 4: and one of the greatest receivers of all time. 212 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,599 Speaker 8: Looking back, you feel bad for the Vikings. 213 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 13: Dot damn down. 214 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 10: Oh my god, I can't believe what just happened. 215 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 5: The Cardinals have knocked. 216 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 2: The Vikings out of the playoffs. 217 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 1: One of the great calls, one of the great thrill 218 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: of victory, agony of defeat moments in NFL history, every 219 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: bit as much Shakespearean tragedy as season finale. December twenty eighth, 220 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: two thousand and three. Cardinals playing for the number one 221 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: pick with a loss, the Vikings playing for the postseason 222 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: with a win or a Packers loss. Yet none of 223 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: the above happened. Here's former head coach Dave McGinnis and 224 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: quarterback Josh McCown. We gotta win a game and we 225 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: haven't won a game in seven weeks. I mean, we 226 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: need to win a ballgame. You know, there are a 227 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: lot of people I know pulling force. 228 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 8: Obviously. Coach McGinnis was fantastic in front of the room. 229 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 8: He was very captivating, and that was one of the 230 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 8: things that he talked about was just the ability to 231 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 8: knock those guys off. You know, they were coming in, 232 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 8: they had to beat us, and you know they were 233 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 8: going to get into the playoffs, and so there was 234 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 8: something to play for there there. You know, it wasn't 235 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 8: just a game where we're going to roll the ball 236 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 8: out there and get it over with and go home. 237 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 8: He was like, man, this is they're playing for something. 238 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 8: We can be playing for something too. 239 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: In two thousand and three, it was a sixteen game season. 240 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: Cardinals entered the final week three and twelve. The Vikings, 241 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: after a six and oh start, were nine and six, 242 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: coming off a ko of KC the week before a 243 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: forty five to twenty drubbing of a Chiefs team that 244 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: would finish thirteen and three. So all the Vikings had 245 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: to do what everyone expected him to do, polish off 246 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: a reeling Cardinals team with a quarterback making his third 247 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: career start, a coach about to be fired, and the 248 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: NFL's all time leading rusher getting peppered about his own 249 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: future on Christmas Eve. 250 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 6: I mean, who knows we can play hypothetical all day? 251 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 5: Is Macizia great? 252 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 2: But if he's not here, people coming in, what their 253 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 2: plans are, what the ideas, and what they thought. 254 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 9: So I gotta win on all that. 255 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 2: So you asking me to make up answer to something 256 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 2: that I don't have all. 257 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 6: The information to, that's stupid. I'm not that stupid. 258 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, please, somebody tell you something Pleasetmas Eve? 259 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 2: Thank you. 260 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 5: How about the spirit of John Inness and happiness? 261 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: That's former Cardinals running back and Hall of Famer Emmitt Smith, 262 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: And hey, no doubt what would make the Red Sea 263 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: jolly and happy? The number one overall pick under their tree. 264 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: Here's Voice of the Cardinals Dave Pash was in his 265 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: second season in three. 266 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 4: And you endure that long of a season and you're 267 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 4: calling games for a team that's losing a lot of games, 268 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 4: the one thing is, okay, you got a chance to 269 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 4: get a franchise changing quarterback. Let's just get through this 270 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 4: and get to that draft. Get your guy, enjoy the 271 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 4: next ten years. And a couple sits like. 272 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 8: That whole year. You grow up fast in this business, 273 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 8: and you go, wait, they're gonna fire these coaches. Wait 274 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 8: a minute, they could draft a new quarterback. Like you know, 275 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 8: I was just a quarterback of the future two days ago. 276 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 8: You know, all these things. You grow really fast. 277 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: That's Cardinals could be Josh McCown, the third round pick 278 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: the year before, who earned the final three starts of 279 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: that O three season and tried to channel the confidence 280 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: that his head coach Dave McGinnis showed in him against 281 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: NFC North leading Minnesota. 282 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 8: I think when you look at their roster, uh, when 283 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 8: they're coming out to us with everything to play for, 284 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 8: I think it was a tall task. Uh So looking 285 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 8: at that going yeah, we're gonna beat the Minnesota Vikings. 286 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 8: You know, realistically, I don't know if that was you know, 287 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 8: if that was an easy sale for coach, but he 288 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 8: did a good job of framing that for us. And 289 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 8: and uh and I think he was, you know, benefited 290 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 8: from a young quarterback who didn't know any better and 291 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 8: just was gonna go out and play the game. 292 00:14:54,680 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 4: It's the Cardinals and Vikings from Tempe Arizona Sun Devil Stadium. 293 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: Not a lot of action for the announcers to call 294 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: in a fifty one degree day, a virtual snooze fast. 295 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: Six to nothing at halftime, seven to six entering the 296 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: fourth quarter when Randy Moss scores on a seven yard pass. 297 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 4: Lot closer than many thought it would be, especially with 298 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 4: a playoffs spot on the line of the Vikings win, 299 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 4: they clinch their division. 300 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 5: If they lose and Green Bay wins, they're. 301 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: Out of the playoffs. Then, just over two minutes later, 302 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: a forty six yard fuel goal makes it seventeen to 303 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: six Vikings with six forty eight to play, but hang on. 304 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: On the first play after the two minute warning. 305 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 4: McCown takes play, bank rolls to his right, mccount in 306 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 4: trouble flushdown, throws ends on and going down to make 307 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 4: the catch for a touchdown of Steve Bush. Steve Bush 308 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 4: with a touchdown catch. Great improv job by Josh McCown. 309 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: A fourteen play touchdown drive bought. The two point conversion failed, 310 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: so it's seventeen to twelve Vikings, a score echoed on 311 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: the Packers broadcast. 312 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 2: James Minnesota leading seventeen to twelve. Remember, the only way 313 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 2: the Packers can make the playoffs now is if Minnesota 314 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 2: loses this football game somehow, some way. 315 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: That's the radio call at Lambeau, Wayne Larrvie and Larry 316 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: McCarron paying close attention nearly two thousand miles away in 317 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: Green Bay, Cardinals are going to. 318 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 4: Try to recover an onside kick to perhaps give us 319 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 4: a little bit more time to broadcast. 320 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 14: Luckily, that day I wasn't demolition, I was recovery. And 321 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 14: you know, Josh Kobe and company went in there, you know, 322 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 14: blasting guys and right place, right time. 323 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: That's former Cardinals running back Damien Anderson. And that's the recipe, 324 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: the mentality for a successful onside kick, because that's exactly 325 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: what the Cardinals needed. Good news. The Cards are just 326 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: picked up one of the best in the business in 327 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: Neil Rackers. 328 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 4: So what fifty four to play? Neil Rackers is very 329 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 4: good with the on side kick. 330 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 8: We were all standing there, you know, waiting because that 331 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 8: was we knew that that was the next piece. You know, 332 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 8: you had to get that to keep the ball game going. 333 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 8: And you know, Neil hits a perfect ball and I 334 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 8: mean it was just how you drew it up, you know. 335 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 8: And Damien comes up with it. 336 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 4: Rackers with the on side kick far aside and it 337 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 4: bounce us in the air and the Cardinals have it. 338 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 4: Of the forty two Davian Anderson comes up with it 339 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 4: on the redirection and the Cards have a chance. 340 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 5: With one fifty four to play. 341 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 2: The Arizona Cardinals tried an onside kick and Larry Long 342 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 2: behold they recovered it for a minute fifty four to 343 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 2: go in that football game in the desert and the 344 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 2: Vikings leading seventeen to twelve. Well, I'm going to shut 345 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 2: up about this last game. 346 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 11: Stuff done. 347 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 2: Maybe they do a miracle. Keep talking about it. You 348 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: may be jinxing us into something good here. 349 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 6: Maybe that miracle can happen. 350 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 10: You get to that onside kick and now all of 351 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 10: a sudden, all bets are off. I mean, anything can 352 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 10: happen against anybody anytime, and as we know, it did. 353 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: That's longtime voice of the Viking, Paul Allen. More from 354 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: him later, much more. 355 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 5: Saul. 356 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: Cardinals had the ball back one fifty four left sixty 357 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: one yards to go, needing a touchdown. With one time out. 358 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: After a thirty yard pass interference and a thirteen yard 359 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: completion in Nate Poole, the Cardinals reached the Minnesota nine 360 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 1: with thirty nine seconds to go. 361 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, out in the desert in Arizona, getting a little 362 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 2: bit closer. You know people are aware of this because 363 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 2: you could hear a thousand in the crowd. 364 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: There is definitely at everyone is out of their seats 365 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: in three different states. When Josh McCown is put on 366 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: his seat, two straight plays quit driving. 367 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 4: Of McCown looking let pump thick of account sacked back 368 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 4: at the seventeenyr line of McCown flushed out running near side, 369 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 4: lost the ball, it's loose, and the Cardinals they have 370 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 4: of the pound side out of the. 371 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 8: Twenty eight Yimmett has a presence of mind to go, Josh, 372 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 8: get up, get up. We gotta get the ball. Snap 373 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 8: we got wow, Tom House, we gotta go. So we 374 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 8: get to play call and then you know, and then 375 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 8: we you know, fortually get the boss. 376 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 14: Now you knew that was Josh skill set, Like call 377 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 14: a play that works for him, you know, get him out, 378 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 14: you know, get him out in some space so he'll 379 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 14: have a multitude of options. 380 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 4: The clock running down, under fifteen seconds left. It's fourth 381 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 4: down at twenty four, and. 382 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 5: It's gonna come down to this. They gotta throw it 383 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 5: into the end zone. 384 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: This is it. Fourth down, fourth and twenty five from 385 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: the twenty eight. The Packers and Vikings playoff hopes hanging 386 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: in the balance once again. Voice of the Vikings, Paul Allen. 387 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 10: There was worry and anxiety and teeth gnashing every step. 388 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: Of the way. 389 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: Hey Green Bay, you still watching, you bet you? 390 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 2: And they're winding it down in Arizona. This is the 391 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 2: last gas, fourth and twenty four, back outside the twenty 392 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 2: five and here we go. 393 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 5: Eight seconds seven six five four. The count with the ball. 394 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,479 Speaker 5: This will be the last play. The count steps up, 395 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 5: rolling far side. 396 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 6: Just so happened. He got flushed, He got flushed out 397 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 6: to the right. I said, oh, here. 398 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 4: He come, the count throwing far side into the end 399 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 4: zone and the ball it is touchdown. 400 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 9: Cardinals made pool, and the Cardinals win the game on 401 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 9: the final pool and the Kings are going. 402 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 5: Home for the new year. 403 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 12: Josh Man, you know, the whole time he's running, he's rolling, 404 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 12: he's pointing to the right. I'm inside, I know he's 405 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 12: about to throw it over there and the defender he 406 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 12: had no clue. 407 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 6: He had no clue. 408 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 5: What a great crow by Josh McCown. He threw it 409 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 5: up or only Maypoole could. 410 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 9: Get it, and he did it. 411 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 8: I felt like it was just there was a connection 412 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 8: for us, you know, and so boom, there he is 413 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 8: and then the ball came out. Uh, and he makes 414 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 8: an unbelievable catch. 415 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 9: The Cardinals winning on the final play. 416 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 4: Joash mccoumb Wuen's made pool in the back of the 417 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 4: end zone on the far side. 418 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 8: You would have thought we won a super Bowl. And uh, 419 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 8: I mean it was an unbelievable moment and edit mental 420 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 8: to those guys. 421 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: Out there, But it meant even more to Nate Poole, 422 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 1: the guy who had been cut four times and then 423 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: he cut loose against the visiting Vikings fans who had 424 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 1: populated and dominated Sun Devil Stadium trash talk in three 425 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: to two one take lso. 426 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 6: Don't come back here and next to y'all get the 427 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 6: same thing. 428 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: Nate Poole, the living embodiment of the ups and downs 429 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: of an NFL game. He was something fired up while 430 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 1: those Viking fans could have been more let down. Remember, 431 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: Nate Poole was a player who was always in proven mode, 432 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: always existing on the edge of the roster, so he 433 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: played with an edge. We heard it right there, and 434 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: it's amazing when you look back out that one catch, 435 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: that one toe tapping catch that proved to be a 436 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: game winner. How it set off a domino effect, a 437 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: whole litany of changes that altered the history of not 438 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: only the Cardinals, but basically all the teams atop that 439 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: two thousand and four draft franchise quarterbacks going two different teams, 440 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: the Cardinals getting themselves a Hall of Famer as well, 441 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: who might have gone number one overall of the Cardinals 442 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: were in that position, but they weren't. And the changes 443 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: even extended to the rule book years later. We'll get 444 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: to that when we come back. And don't forget Natepool 445 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: was not just a celebrity in Arizona. He was the 446 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 1: toast of the town in Green Bay. And we'll relive 447 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: all that when we come back to this very special 448 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: Cardinals Folktales edition of the Big Red Rage Miracle in 449 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 1: the Desert, presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert. It's our 450 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: special Cardinals Bolk Tales edition of the Big Red Rage 451 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 1: santan Ford in Gilbert. This is where we go into 452 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: Cardinals history, go into the archives. Can't spell the word 453 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: history without the word story. And we're talking about the 454 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: final game of the two thousand and three season. My 455 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: name is Paul Calvi. Seen. We started by saying, remember 456 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: that one time, that one game played by two teams 457 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: in two thousand and three, that stop time in three 458 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: different NFL cities. Remember Nate Poole, Cardinals receiver, and was 459 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: the in or out of bounds? We posed that question, Well, 460 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: he was most definitely inbounds, and the Vikings were most 461 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: definitely out of the playoffs, and the Cardinals were out 462 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: of the top pick in the draft. We'll get to that, 463 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: but remember when it comes to the Vikings, you're talking 464 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: about a team that not only started six to zero 465 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: and was on the verge of the playoffs, but that season, 466 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: the four worst teams in the league were the Giants, 467 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: the Raiders, the Chargers, and the Cardinals. Each team finished 468 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: four and twelve. Each one of those teams beat the Vikings, 469 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: So you can imagine the angst on the Minnesota side. 470 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: In fact, their radio announcer, the voice of the Vikings. 471 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: Paul Allen became a meme before there even were memes 472 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: in social media, and that's where we rejoined this edition 473 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: of Cardinals Folktales Miracle in the Desert, and former Cardinals 474 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: quarterback Josh McCown two years later had empathy for the Vikings. 475 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 8: Looking back, like you feel bad for the Vikings because 476 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 8: they were right there on the cusp and to lose 477 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 8: that way, man, that's bitter. 478 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: Nate Pool's game winning, playoff busting, last second, fourth down 479 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: touchdown catch was one of his two two career touchdowns, 480 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: leaving the Vikings on the outside of the playoff picture 481 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: looking in as radio voice Paul Allen and company were 482 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: left in a state of utter disbelief. 483 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 10: People were just staring longingly on the team bust to 484 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 10: the airport. Nobody knew what to say, and they were 485 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 10: just downtrodden. 486 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 5: And you just don't lose like that. 487 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 10: Nobody loses like that, let alone to Nathan Poole, not 488 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 10: ang Kwam Bolden. So I mean, now as we connect 489 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 10: the dots, you know, of the entire thing over twenty years, 490 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 10: it hits me so vividly because of how emotional it 491 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 10: was at that moment. The season's on the line, two 492 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 10: receivers left and right. 493 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 5: McCown takes the snap. 494 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 6: He steps up, he's all by himself, fires into. 495 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 9: The end zone. 496 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 8: Dods Dods down. 497 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 10: No, no, the Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out of 498 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 10: the playoffs. The previous owner of the team, Red McCombs, 499 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 10: hated that call. He didn't let me know, but he 500 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 10: let others know. Some vice presidents here, so you know, 501 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 10: I had some conversations with some vice presidents and I'm like, 502 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 10: you know, you don't script moments like that, and that's 503 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 10: what came out. So I had to deal with that 504 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 10: very young and my career. 505 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 4: I understand where Paul's coming from. You get invested in 506 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 4: the team. It's your team, and I thought Paul handled 507 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 4: it perfectly. Some people might say, uh, it's not professional, 508 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 4: but that's how the fans feeling. 509 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 8: No, are you kidding? 510 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 2: Right? 511 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:15,479 Speaker 5: That was Paul's reaction. 512 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 10: One thing I remember about the call is I looked 513 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 10: to my left where the coaches were, and our linebackers 514 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 10: coach at that time, he bursage. He could hear me 515 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 10: through the glass yelling no, no, no, no, and then 516 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 10: I came down. The Gardinals have knocked the Vikings out 517 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 10: of the playoffs. The Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out 518 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 10: of the playoffs. The way he looked at me, it 519 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 10: was not anger at me. It was one of two things. 520 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 10: Oh my god, I can't believe what just happened. Oh 521 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 10: my god, that check that I was going to get 522 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 10: for a playoff bonus, it just went up into the tenpiece. 523 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: Guy from Minnesota fans saying you sunk my Viking ship. 524 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: Just the sheer agony of it all to the utter 525 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: ecstasy of cheesehead nation listening on the Packers radio network, 526 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: and here we go. 527 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 2: This is if the season for the Packers. On the 528 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 2: line into the end zone, accounts pack. 529 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 13: Hey Jo. 530 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 9: Got cutting down. It is as on Pacos. 531 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: By label, complete deadlock from Wayne Larity and Larry McCarron 532 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: reacting to a game they're not even calling, just watching 533 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: from two thousand miles away. 534 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 5: Patters the biggest amercon on the Packers. 535 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 9: Sadly any reps the Packers. 536 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 2: They finally realized there's any rep I'm a final playoff. 537 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 2: The regular season for the Fight teams they lose eighteen 538 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 2: to seventeen. 539 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 5: The Packers not only. 540 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 6: Make the playoffs, they're gonna be host of the game. 541 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: True Rrett Farv and the Packers would host the Seahawks 542 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: at Lambeau to open the playoffs. Later, Dave mcginni shared 543 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 1: with the media that Packers coach Mike Sherman and GM 544 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: Mark Hadley called him and said, quote, you're a bleeping 545 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: king here in Green Bay. The thing is back in Tempee, 546 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: speaking of coach mac different emotions, a different reality started 547 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: to set in as the Cardinals locker room grew quiet, 548 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: almost somber. 549 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 15: For all that we've been through, we never quit on 550 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 15: each other. It was a constant, constant reminder of what 551 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 15: character I've got in this room. 552 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: I've never been afraid to tell you that I love you. 553 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 8: It was somber, and it's very soberinging. You're just like, man, 554 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 8: back to reality. This is what we're faced with. And 555 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 8: he was genuine with his and you know, and how 556 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 8: I cared about guys, and so I think he understood 557 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 8: in that moment that that was probably, you know, the 558 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 8: last time or one of the last times he was 559 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 8: going to address this as a group. 560 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 15: I've never been afraid to open myself to you because 561 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 15: you've got my heart. You've got my heart, you know. 562 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 8: It's a roller coaster, really, because you were just as 563 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 8: high as it gets. You know, for fifteen twenty minutes, 564 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 8: they're celebrating and enjoying one another, and then you know, 565 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 8: the business sets in. 566 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 15: When Nate Poole gave me this ball that he caught, 567 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 15: What did I tell you last night? I cut this 568 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 15: man four times. I cut him four times, and every 569 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 15: time I did, he stood up in my office and 570 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 15: hugged me and said, Mac, if you need me, I'll 571 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 15: be back because you're the only man I want to 572 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 15: play for. 573 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: And that's the way I know that all of you 574 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:53,959 Speaker 1: feel right now. 575 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 6: It was real motion on It was like you know, 576 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 6: your last family hug. 577 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 12: You know, and you know, and it hurt because we know, 578 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 12: you know, he's a player's coach and he loved the players. 579 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 12: He want the players to do do you know, to excel, 580 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 12: to be really great? 581 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: You know what I feel for you? 582 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 14: You know what I feel for you. 583 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 15: This was a tremendous, tremendous demonstration of men that not 584 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 15: only love each other, but believe, believe, believe. 585 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 12: You know, most of us felt like we let Dave 586 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 12: down because you know, we didn't come up on the 587 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 12: winning side of a lot of these games to keep 588 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 12: him around. 589 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: I'll never ever give up on you. I love you. 590 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 6: Thank you. 591 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: On the very next day, with a foreign twall season 592 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: in the books, Cardinals head coach Dave McGinnis was indeed fired. 593 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: Vikings head coach Mike Tye survived despite the Vikings collapse 594 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: after that six and oh start. As for the Packers, 595 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: the party was just starting and Napool's celebrity was growing. 596 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 2: Nathan Pool, of all people, how about that, Nathan Pull 597 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 2: may become a household name in green Bay. 598 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 10: It was an amazing play. But you know, like I 599 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 10: say about Nathan, and I'm not being disparaging here, but 600 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 10: that was his fifteen minutes of fame. And then of 601 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 10: course the next week he was given a key to 602 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 10: the city of Green Bay and he got to go 603 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 10: to their playoff game, and. 604 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: That is accurate. Nate Poole, who going into the season 605 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: finale had eight catches all season and no touchdowns, was 606 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: now Packers royalty, to the point where he got a 607 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: call from the mayor of Green Bay. 608 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 12: So Mayor Schmitz gave me a call and I was like, oh, 609 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 12: here we go. Stop calling my phone because I'm thinking 610 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 12: it's a player, and I'm thinking he's gonna call that 611 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 12: player's gonna call me back and say. 612 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 6: Man, dude, what are you doing? Then I got a 613 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 6: call right back. It was the same number, and I'm like, okay, hey, 614 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 6: how you doing this in April? And he was like, Hey, Nate, no, 615 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 6: this is not a joke. 616 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 12: This is Mayor Schmidt. I love to get you out 617 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 12: in a speed talking. I love to get you out 618 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 12: to one of the games. 619 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 6: I said, oh no, I would love to come out. 620 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: And that's not the only call he got that week. 621 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: On the Big Red Rage radio show with host Dave Pash, 622 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: a Packers fan dialed in from the Midwest line too. 623 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 5: Dave, Mary, Joe, Mary Joe, Welcome to the Big Red Rage. 624 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 2: Go ahead, Joe. 625 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 13: Hey, guys, thanks a lot. I was just calling to 626 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 13: wish Nate a wonderful time in Green Bay and to 627 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 13: give him a huge thank you. Since the Vikings started 628 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 13: off six and oh this year, I've been taking a 629 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 13: lot of grief for getting a lot of grief from 630 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 13: my friends who are Viking fans, and I would roll 631 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 13: my eyes and just say, oh, you know, won't you 632 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 13: ever learn? The Vikings will find some way to implode 633 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 13: again this year and sweet revenge. It has been a 634 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 13: wonderful couple of days and I just want to offer 635 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 13: a great big thank you. 636 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 5: Hey, Mary Joe, how about taking Date ou to dinner 637 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 5: when he gets up there. 638 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 13: I'm sure he will have a lot of opportunities to 639 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 13: go out in Green Bay if that is his desire. 640 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 13: He will have a lot of people who will take 641 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 13: good care of him. 642 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: Nate Poole laughed all the way to Green Bay, an 643 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: all expense paid trip in January on the tax Beyar's 644 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: tap as the undrafted receiver from Marshall became a grand 645 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: Marshal of sorts. But don't forget about the other end 646 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: of that touchdown pass QB. Josh McCown. 647 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 8: You know, they fly Nate up to Green Bay and 648 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 8: they give him a Kidah City or whatever they did, 649 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 8: and they're sending us. We were getting Christmas cards from 650 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 8: Green Bay fans that it was their family Christmas card, 651 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 8: and you know it would you know, scratched out and 652 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 8: Merry Christmas and thank you for beating the vikings, Go 653 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 8: Pat go, and loads of Christmas cards mailed to the 654 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 8: house of the Sargento family sent the best cheese basket 655 00:33:59,000 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 8: you've ever seen your life. 656 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: That was two thousand and three. But even to this day, 657 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: when he's out and about, Josh McCown gets reaction for 658 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: both school Nation and America's dairy lamb walking. 659 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 8: Through an airport or whatever, and there will be, you know, 660 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 8: a disgruntled Vikings fan and hey, you you know you 661 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 8: owe me, you know type of thing. Or it'll be 662 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 8: a Packers fan that'll be like, thank you for getting 663 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 8: us in the playoffs that year, you know, we owe you. 664 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 11: I was at home back in Minneapolis or watching that game, 665 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 11: and I did not like Nate Poole because I thought 666 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 11: I had a chance to be the number one pick, 667 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 11: and I used to always. 668 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:36,879 Speaker 8: Mess with Nate. 669 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: That's Minnesota native Larry Fitzgerald not only a former Vikings 670 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: ball boy and their number one fan at the time, 671 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: but fitz might have been the number one pick overall 672 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 1: in the NFL draft. 673 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 12: Me and Larry had that conversation. Believe me that he 674 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 12: would have been the number one overall pick. We're talking 675 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 12: in the receiver room before the meeting about being him 676 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 12: being an number one pick. You know, as I think 677 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 12: back to what his sided bonus was, how he didn't 678 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 12: do too bad. At the number three pick, people. 679 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 8: Said, well, y'all, you know you cost him the number 680 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 8: one pick, and I go back and go, you know, 681 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 8: I don't think Coach Green would have I think he 682 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 8: would have picked Larry. He was gonna pick Larry, and 683 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 8: it turned out really good for Larry and and ultimately 684 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 8: for the Arizona Cardinals too. He helped lead that franchise, 685 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 8: you know, through a lot of things to become a 686 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 8: you know, a competitive franchise, and you know, to really 687 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 8: what they are today. 688 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 4: Walking away from that with mixed emotions of Wow, what 689 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 4: a way to win a game, but also, oh my goodness, 690 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 4: there goes the quarterback of the future. There goes he Like. 691 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: Yep, Cardinals won the game, but lost the number one pick, 692 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: which ended up being Ole Miss quarterback Eli Manning. We'll 693 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: never know who knew head coach Danny Green would have 694 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,399 Speaker 1: picked for the Cardinals, or do we. Larry Fitzgerald says 695 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,760 Speaker 1: at number one he still would have been the Cardinals selection. 696 00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 11: Then he said, I would have been. That's what he 697 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 11: told me. He felt me I would have been. But 698 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 11: you know what, it all worked his way out. I 699 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 11: was able to still get here and play for him. 700 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 11: I know we didn't have the success I'd love to 701 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 11: have for him. You know, he gave me my first 702 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 11: two jobs I ever had as a ball boy and 703 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 11: then as a professional athlete, and so I owe him 704 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 11: a huge debt of gratitude and I'm just so very 705 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 11: thankful for you know, the doors he opened. 706 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 8: For me and my family. 707 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 9: Touchdown Cardinals, they pull, the Cardinals win the game, the final. 708 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,720 Speaker 12: I brong my heart head to practice in the games 709 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 12: every day, and I knew, you know, that's what it 710 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 12: was about as growing up as a youngster. That was about, 711 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 12: you know, bringing your hard hat and working out and 712 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 12: just pushing to make the team. 713 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 4: You know, coaches say run every route as if it's 714 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 4: your last one. Nate Poole really did it. But it 715 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 4: was like comical, like he went so hard. So it's 716 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,879 Speaker 4: pretty cool to see a guy that worked that hard 717 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 4: have one of the biggest plays of the season, not 718 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 4: just for the Cardinals, but for the entire league. 719 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 6: I got to tell you people, hey, you can only 720 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 6: do it one play at a time. 721 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: I got you on that play, and needless to say, 722 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: it's the play in Nate Poole's career, one of the 723 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: most dramatic and consequential plays in NFL history. 724 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 5: The Cardinals have knocked the Fighting's out of the playoffs. 725 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 8: And Nate Poll's a good person. He's a great person 726 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 8: to be around. And you look back at that and 727 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 8: that's a special moment for me in my career as well. 728 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 8: So but it couldn't happen to a better guy. Night's 729 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 8: good dude. 730 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, who says good dudes finished last? 731 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 13: Right? 732 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: In fact, as Dave McGinnis said back then with a 733 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 1: smile to the media, quote, there were two receivers on 734 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,760 Speaker 1: the field from Marshall that day. They had Randy Moss, 735 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: we had Nathan Poole. So there you have it. Cardinals 736 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,919 Speaker 1: Folktales Miracle in the Desert, presented by seventy two Soul 737 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 1: for producer jim O. Mahundro. I'm Paul Calvic and that's 738 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,399 Speaker 1: the story of how an unknown receiver won that day, 739 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,439 Speaker 1: but a Hall of fame receiver was on his way. 740 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 4: The consolation was probably the greatest player in Cardinals history 741 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 4: and one of the greatest receivers of all time. 742 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 16: With the third choice in the two thousand and four 743 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 16: NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinals select Larry Fitzgerald wide receiver, 744 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 16: University of Fluff Cardinal. 745 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: That was the Red Sea Cardinals fans at the official 746 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: draft party two thousand and four welcoming Larry Fitzgerald to 747 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 1: the Valley White, a departure from the climate a few 748 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: months earlier, when many Cardinals fans viewed the win against 749 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 1: the Vikings as a loss because the Cardinals lost out 750 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 1: on the number one pick overall, ostensibly a franchise quarterback, 751 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,439 Speaker 1: which eventually was Eli Manning as the top overall pick. 752 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: But that wasn't the only change in the NFL. A 753 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,359 Speaker 1: few years after that, the force out rule would be eliminated, 754 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 1: and one of the main examples cited was Nate Poole, 755 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 1: who only had one foot down in the end zone 756 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:25,439 Speaker 1: on that game winning playoff busting touchdown catch that eliminated 757 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 1: the Vikings. When we come back, Darren urban would the 758 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 1: Cardinals have taken a quarterback number one overall? Would it 759 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: still have been Larry Fitzgerald. We'll get Darren's perspective when 760 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: we come back to this very special Cardinals Folk Tales 761 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,280 Speaker 1: edition of the Big Red Rage Miracle in the Desert 762 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 1: presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert and we're wrapping up 763 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,919 Speaker 1: this very special Cardinals Full Tales edition of the Big 764 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: Red Rage present Santan Ford in Gilbert Paul Kelvicy joined 765 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: by Darren Irvan Deren Irvan covered the game. Miracle in 766 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 1: the Desert is the title of this Cardinals Folk Tales 767 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,760 Speaker 1: where we're going to the archives in some great, rarely 768 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 1: heard audio that are Jim Almahundro found both from the 769 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:21,320 Speaker 1: Green Bay Radio broadcast. Also some of the audio we 770 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 1: heard from Larry Fitzgerald and coach McGinnis Josh McCown all 771 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 1: talking about not only the end of the game, but 772 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: the start of a new era of Cardinals football in 773 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,479 Speaker 1: so many different ways. In fact, let's start right there, Darren, 774 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: because what if what if the Cardinals had lost that game? 775 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: What if they had picked number one overall? Would they 776 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 1: still have picked Larry Fitzgerald or would they have gone 777 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback? 778 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 7: You know if I think they end up taking Larry Fitzgerald, 779 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 7: because I think Danny Green wanted Larry Fitzgerald on his team. 780 00:40:55,239 --> 00:41:00,399 Speaker 7: You know, I remember so vividly in the month leading 781 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 7: up to the draft. Denny wasn't like a lot of 782 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 7: coaches there were oftentimes when he was, he said more 783 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 7: than maybe then maybe he should. 784 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 6: And I remember in those. 785 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 7: Days, I was covering the team for the East Valley Tribune. 786 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 7: I had come out to a day in the off 787 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,799 Speaker 7: season sometime in April, and I was the only writer 788 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 7: here and the only other media member who was showing 789 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 7: up was Brad Cemett, who was working for one of 790 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 7: the local stations that day, and he had an interview 791 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,240 Speaker 7: apparently scheduled. 792 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:31,439 Speaker 6: With Denny Green. 793 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 7: And all they did was bring Denny Green down to 794 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 7: the media area and then they just had a camera 795 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 7: and they were sitting there and they're having it. So 796 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 7: as a media member, I'm going to listen to the 797 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,439 Speaker 7: interview and take what I can. 798 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 6: Get from it. 799 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: Hey, nobody told you you couldn't. 800 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 7: So Denny Green is talking about and you have to 801 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 7: remember again the draft with Ben Roethlisberger and Eli Manning 802 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 7: and Philip Rivers, those are all available with the Cardinals 803 00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 7: picking third. And at this point, the Hardinal's quarterback was 804 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 7: Josh McCown probably, and there were questions about Josh and 805 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,439 Speaker 7: whether he was gonna you know, and Denny loved Josh. 806 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,359 Speaker 7: He would talk him up all the time, and at 807 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,879 Speaker 7: one point Denny Green said, we're not going to take 808 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 7: a quarterback third overall. Well, as a reporter, I had 809 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 7: that in this day, this is pre internet, so I 810 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 7: had a big banner headline the next day. Obviously, the 811 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 7: other paper in town didn't have the story. So the 812 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 7: next day I came back. There were other writers here. 813 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 7: Ken Summer showed up, Bob Bomb from the Associated Press, 814 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 7: and they get Denny Green to come down and talk 815 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:37,919 Speaker 7: and they're trying to get him to say the same 816 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 7: thing again, and he won't do it. And finally Bob 817 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,959 Speaker 7: Baum says to him, kind of half jokingly, we're trying 818 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 7: to get you to say what you told Darren yesterday, 819 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 7: And Denny looked at him and he goes, that was yesterday. 820 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 6: Today is today. 821 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 1: I tell you though, that was back in the days. 822 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 1: And we just talked about this where a quarterback wouldn't 823 00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,400 Speaker 1: always go number one, right, And we knew Denny's affinity 824 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 1: for Larry Fitzgerald, his former ball boy by the way 825 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 1: in Minnesota, so he knew Larry better than anyone and 826 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 1: fits as it came to be. Once he did get drafted, 827 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: he showed up in the Cardinals locker room and there 828 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 1: was Nate Poole. Nate Poole heard it from Larry that 829 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 1: he cost him the number one pick overall. 830 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, And look, it's not like the Cardinals made 831 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 7: a poor pick by any stretch of the imagination. But 832 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 7: you do wonder a little bit what Okay, Eli Manning 833 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 7: went number one and then Robert Gallery went number two. 834 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 7: But you wonder a little bit if they didn't take 835 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 7: Fits and they take Ben Roethlisberger or they take Philip Rivers, 836 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,800 Speaker 7: how different does life with the Cardinals? 837 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:38,439 Speaker 6: You know, happen? 838 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 12: Now? 839 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 7: The Cardinals make the two thousand and eight Super Bowl 840 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 7: because they get Kurt Warner, who has his career renaissance 841 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 7: throwing to Akwambolden and a very very good Larry Fitzgerald. 842 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 7: And the Cardinals don't make the super Bowl unless Larry 843 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 7: has arguably the greatest performed postseason performance of any wide 844 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 7: receiver ever. 845 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 1: So, and guess what, Kurt Warner doesn't end with the 846 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: Cardinals if Eli Manning doesn't end up with the Giants. 847 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 6: So true. 848 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 7: So, although Eli wasn't drafted by the Giants, he was 849 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 7: drafted by the Chargers and they had to make the 850 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 7: trade for Philip Rivers. There was a lot of intrigue 851 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:09,479 Speaker 7: with that draft. 852 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt. Look, Nate Poole didn't have much 853 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 1: of a career after that. Always remembered for what he 854 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 1: did for the Green Bay Packers. Got the all expenses 855 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 1: pay trip in January to Green Bay, gladly because he 856 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,400 Speaker 1: got a key to the city and everything else. But 857 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,760 Speaker 1: they ended up changing the force out rule in large 858 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 1: part because of how that went down in the end 859 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 1: zone at Sun Devil Stadium. 860 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 7: I had no question that it was a force out play. 861 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 7: And now you have to get feet down and if 862 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 7: a guy pushes you out of bounds your eye, that 863 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 7: touchdown does not count in today's NFL. 864 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:46,359 Speaker 1: So many memorable moments and memorable radio calls from that game. 865 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 1: One of the great historic moments in Cardinals history, and 866 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 1: it's been a pleasure reliving it, no doubt about it. 867 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 1: Miracle in the Desert Cardinals folk Tale special thanks to 868 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:02,320 Speaker 1: our Jim al Mahuandro for Darrener. I'm Paul Calvic once again. 869 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 1: An Emmy Award winning series you can find on the 870 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,840 Speaker 1: Cardinals YouTube page, one of many, and it's been a 871 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,359 Speaker 1: pleasure telling you about it here on The Big Red 872 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 1: Rage presented by santan Ford in Gilbert. 873 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 3: You've been listening to the Big Red Rage presented by 874 00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 3: santan Ford and Gilbert right on the Price, right on 875 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 3: the corner of the Santan two to two Freeway and Valvesta. 876 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 3: The Rage is brought to you by seat Geek your 877 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 3: ticket to Great Seats, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit 878 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:46,280 Speaker 3: Azycardinals dot com slash podcast. 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