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Speaker 3: Ready, mister Chief Justice and Maya Pleased the Court.
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Speaker 4: Mister Chief Justice man, please may please the court, please mabe.
Speaker 5: Please the court.
Speaker 2: Oh five am? Well that was wrestful.
Speaker 6: Far fucking now, Linda, sh Sarah, no one's around. Who's
Speaker 6: gonna hear me? The car doesn't care?
Speaker 2: I hear you. Show some respect to this place. Brother.
Speaker 2: We're supposed to go to the Marshall's office first. There
Speaker 2: it is. Hello there, I'm Sarah Weddington and this is Linda. Coffee.
Speaker 2: We're the lawyers arguing this morning. Sorry, we're a little early.
Speaker 7: Come back in an hour, ladies, you'll still be early.
Speaker 6: Come on, ma'am, have a heart, won't you. We've never
Speaker 6: done this before.
Speaker 2: We're nervous as heck.
Speaker 6: Put yourself in our shoes.
Speaker 7: Sorry, I need coffee. Welcome to the Supreme Court, ladies.
Speaker 7: Here's a card authorizing what you may and may not
Speaker 7: bring into the courtroom and other instructions.
Speaker 2: For you both.
Speaker 7: You have a third, don't you?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 6: Right, Lucas, I'll be at our table. He won't be
Speaker 6: speaking now, let me see these instructions remain seated at
Speaker 6: the reserve table through out the argument of the case,
Speaker 6: which immediately precedes.
Speaker 2: Your case that doesn't apply to us. We're the first
Speaker 2: case today.
Speaker 6: When counsel's turn comes for argument, he will proceed to
Speaker 6: the rosterrum without being called. He should not begin until
Speaker 6: he has been recognized by the Chief Justice. Then he
Speaker 6: should open his argument with mister Chief Justice and may
Speaker 6: it please the court? Wow?
Speaker 7: Sorry about that. Not a lot of call for a
Speaker 7: female version of these.
Speaker 6: This is intense. There are fewer protocols when we meet
Speaker 6: the queen.
Speaker 2: How would you possibly know that? Linda? Thank you, ma'am.
Speaker 2: Come on, Lyda, let's go.
Speaker 7: Missus Weddington.
Speaker 2: Yes, I just want you to know a bunch.
Speaker 7: Of US staffers here at court we're rooting for you today.
Speaker 7: Go get them.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you so much, Linda. Did you just
Speaker 2: hear what she just said to me?
Speaker 6: Keep it together, Sarah. Check out the courtroom, Sarah, Okay,
Speaker 6: you look white, I mean more than usual.
Speaker 2: The courtroom is smaller than I thought.
Speaker 6: Three hundred and fifty seats, isn't enough for you. You
Speaker 6: think your jan is chompling all of a sudden. Look,
Speaker 6: that must be the three minute section, my son.
Speaker 3: For tourists, they sit for three minutes at a time,
Speaker 3: then get replaced by a new group.
Speaker 6: Well, that's not gonna be distracting at all.
Speaker 2: But I had no idea. The lawyers stand was this
Speaker 2: close to the bench. Why don't they move it back?
Speaker 2: My God, when I stand here, if I reach out
Speaker 2: my hand and the Chief Justice reaches out here, we
Speaker 2: could shake.
Speaker 6: Okay, but you're not gonna do that. Ray, right, Sarah.
Speaker 3: It's like sitting in the dang front row of a
Speaker 3: movie theater, says on the ends, won't even be in
Speaker 3: my field of vision.
Speaker 6: Breathe, Sarah breathed in an out look. Gifts for us,
Speaker 6: handmade goose quill pens. We get to keep these.
Speaker 2: Every lawyer who's ever argued here has.
Speaker 6: Oh what is it now, Sarah, why do you look weird?
Speaker 3: No, it's just it reminds me of my father's church.
Speaker 3: I wasn't expecting that.
Speaker 6: Okay, this is a bad time for an acid flashback, Sarah.
Speaker 2: The pews, the gallery, the lectern, the stage.
Speaker 6: Okay, is church a happy memory or a sad memory.
Speaker 3: When I was a little girl, I used to entertain
Speaker 3: my father's whole congregation.
Speaker 2: There are some of my fondest memories.
Speaker 6: Happy then, if I can just pull you back into
Speaker 6: the present for a minute, Sarah, remember what we practiced. Look,
Speaker 6: they even put a cheat sheet on the lectern for
Speaker 6: you with the Justice seating arrangement. Make eye contact with
Speaker 6: Powell on everything related to ninth Amendment. Look at Burger
Speaker 6: when pushing the fourteenth. He may be persuadable on that.
Speaker 2: What about black Man?
Speaker 6: Don't focus on him, Harry. Blackman is just burger sidekick.
Speaker 6: Convince Warren and Harry will follow, And don't go over
Speaker 6: the allotted time. A white light goes on here when
Speaker 6: you have a few minutes left, when the red light
Speaker 6: goes on, sit your buck down.
Speaker 3: I know I'm the one who told you all that
Speaker 3: I got it. Linda good, Okay, So.
Speaker 6: What do you want to do for the next three hours?
Speaker 2: Excuse me, sir, We can't seem to find the lavatory
Speaker 2: we're arguing.
Speaker 5: This morning, of course, missus Whittington. It's in the lawyer's lock.
Speaker 2: Actually, I only saw a man's room in there, Oh right.
Speaker 5: The women's facilities are in the basement.
Speaker 2: I think, of course, why.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't they be, Sarah, Mama, you look so beautiful, sweetie.
Speaker 2: Momma, you remember leading.
Speaker 6: To coffee him? Missus Rigel, how was the fly? Very easy?
Speaker 2: Here?
Speaker 6: The girl's drum scrapook needs you a card?
Speaker 2: Thanks, Mama. Where's Daddy still in the cap?
Speaker 8: Daddy couldn't make it, Dear, What what do you mean?
Speaker 6: He just he couldn't make it? Oh, Sarah, do not
Speaker 6: fall apart on me.
Speaker 9: Not now.
Speaker 2: Big a day of my life and he couldn't come.
Speaker 6: Excuse me, Missus Rigel, I need Sarah for a second.
Speaker 6: Of course, go get ready.
Speaker 2: Good luck, it's fine. Daddy's very busy. It's a long
Speaker 2: trip from Dallas.
Speaker 8: It's fine, Sarah.
Speaker 6: Your father is a freaking minister and a Texan and
Speaker 6: a man. Some part of you feel like if he
Speaker 6: was a portive of this and almost wouldn't be worth
Speaker 6: you in.
Speaker 8: I guess.
Speaker 5: I can't believe you scored these seats, Katie.
Speaker 10: Must have been expensive.
Speaker 11: It's not a next game, Mike yat they were free.
Speaker 2: Did you speak to Sarah this morning?
Speaker 6: Wish your good luck from the group. No, I didn't
Speaker 6: want to rattle or we'll catch her after me. I
Speaker 6: should be able to breathe again.
Speaker 3: By then, missus Weddington, Thanks coffee, mister Lucas, good to
Speaker 3: see you.
Speaker 2: I can't believe this crowdland. Everybody's here. Look. Anne Richards
Speaker 2: is sitting right over there.
Speaker 6: By wrong yep, your husband is also two seats away
Speaker 6: from Betty for Dan.
Speaker 2: That's Betty for Dan. Oh, and there's Mikey and Katie
Speaker 2: from the Institute. There's being deb who those women in
Speaker 2: the private area next to the bench.
Speaker 6: I think that's the life's box. Believe me, no Justice's wife.
Speaker 6: I used to miss this one.
Speaker 3: I wonder what the justices are doing right now. I
Speaker 3: think they're as nervous as we are.
Speaker 6: Are you kidding? They're shaking their robes. They kind of
Speaker 6: answer to the Sarah Wennington today.
Speaker 5: What do you see between what distinction do you make
Speaker 5: between one and nine months of justice?
Speaker 12: You look nervous, Harry.
Speaker 5: I'm just trying to be prepared, warn.
Speaker 12: Relax, especially with this one. Not a lot of suspense here,
Speaker 12: all right, gentlemen, here we go.
Speaker 11: The Honorable the Chief Justice and the Associate Justices of
Speaker 11: the Supreme Court of the United States o ya o
Speaker 11: ya o ya.
Speaker 6: All right, here we go, Sarah.
Speaker 11: All persons having business before the Honorable the Supreme Court
Speaker 11: of the United States are admonished to draw near and
Speaker 11: give their attention. But the Court is now sitting.
Speaker 13: Be sitting.
Speaker 12: We'll hear arguments in number eighteen row against uh Wade.
Speaker 12: Missus Weddington. You may proceed whenever you're ready.
Speaker 3: Mister Chief Justice, and may it please the Court. The
Speaker 3: Texas abortion laws are unconstitutional for two reasons. They're impermissibly vague,
Speaker 3: and they violate a woman's rats. They permit abortions only
Speaker 3: to save the life of the woman.
Speaker 12: Now, Missus Weddington, does this hold true for doctors as well?
Speaker 2: An interesting question, Chief Justice Burger, Why.
Speaker 5: Thank you, Missus Weddington.
Speaker 3: The current law is unclear, mister Chief Justice. Unless they
Speaker 3: can prove it's necessary to save a woman's life, doctors
Speaker 3: could be prosecuted under the law. But what if a
Speaker 3: woman comes to a doctor alleging she'll commit suicide if
Speaker 3: he doesn't give her an abortion.
Speaker 2: What's the doctor to do? The law is too vague,
Speaker 2: your honor.
Speaker 5: Let's talk about access, Missus Weddington.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, Justice.
Speaker 5: Blackman, you go into it extensively in your brief, But
Speaker 5: why is lack of access an undue burden on a woman?
Speaker 2: Thank you for the question, Justice Blackman.
Speaker 3: I would say that all personal and familial problems for
Speaker 3: a woman are bound up in pregnancy.
Speaker 2: It changes a woman's life.
Speaker 3: What I mean to say is pregnancy is one of
Speaker 3: the most determinative aspects of her life. It disrupts her body,
Speaker 3: it disrupts her education, it disrupts her employment, and it
Speaker 3: often disrupts her entire family. We feel that because of
Speaker 3: this fundamental impact on the woman, she must have access
Speaker 3: and ability to decide whether to continue or to terminate
Speaker 3: her pregnancy.
Speaker 12: Mister Floyd, when you're ready.
Speaker 14: Mister Chief Justice, and may it please the court.
Speaker 15: It's an old joke, but when a man argues against
Speaker 15: two beautiful ladies like these, they are going to have
Speaker 15: the last word.
Speaker 5: Get on with it, mister Floyd.
Speaker 14: Yes, mister Chief Justice.
Speaker 15: Yes, Before I proceed, I would like to bring the
Speaker 15: lack of standing to the Court's attention. We believe that
Speaker 15: this case is moot and should be dismissed outright because
Speaker 15: Jane Rowe, as well as the other plaintiffs are no
Speaker 15: longer pregnant.
Speaker 12: Mister Floyd, Are you suggesting there are no pregnant females
Speaker 12: in the state of Texas.
Speaker 5: This is a.
Speaker 15: Class action suit, mister Floyd, Yes, your honor, But for
Speaker 15: a class action suit to be valid, at least one
Speaker 15: member of the original suit must have standing.
Speaker 14: None of these plaintiffs in this case do.
Speaker 5: Mister Floyd. In the American judicial system, cases take longer
Speaker 5: than nine months to reach us. That's just fact. Under
Speaker 5: your reasoning, how could any pregnant woman ever sue?
Speaker 14: Withstanding they cannot justice Blackman?
Speaker 15: Some issues simply have no remedy. What I mean to
Speaker 15: say is that the woman makes her choice prior to
Speaker 15: the time she becomes pregnant.
Speaker 14: That is the time of choice.
Speaker 12: Or maybe she makes her choice when she decides to
Speaker 12: live in Texas.
Speaker 3: Mister Floyd, your honors, how long a woman has been
Speaker 3: pregnant should be a part of the Texas law and
Speaker 3: it is not.
Speaker 5: What distinctions do you make, missus Whittington me, your honor. Yes,
Speaker 5: you point out that Texas law doesn't refer to how
Speaker 5: long a woman has been pregnant, But what is your opinion?
Speaker 3: It is a I would say I have a more
Speaker 3: difficult time saying the state has no ability to regulate
Speaker 3: in late pregnancy.
Speaker 10: Justice black Man, Why why is that?
Speaker 3: I think it's more the emotional response to a late pregnancy,
Speaker 3: Justice Marshall say, in the seventh or eighth or ninth month,
Speaker 3: it might be out of bounds, but it's an emotional
Speaker 3: distinction rather than a constitutional one.
Speaker 10: Emotional an emotional response by whom Missus.
Speaker 3: Weddington, Well, I suppose by anyone considering this issue outside
Speaker 3: the legal profession, just as Marshall.
Speaker 5: In other words, you don't think there's a legal argument
Speaker 5: to me made about the distinction between early and late
Speaker 5: term abortions. Missus Weddington.
Speaker 2: Well, if we're speaking about a legal context, your honor.
Speaker 12: As long as we're in the courtroom, Missus Weddington, we
Speaker 12: may as well.
Speaker 5: This is Weddington. Let me make this simple. Do you
Speaker 5: or don't you say that time frame should be a
Speaker 5: part of the constitutional question.
Speaker 3: I would say, yes, Your Honor, the number of months
Speaker 3: that pass and a pregnancy are relevant.
Speaker 10: Okay, then, mister Floyd, when does life begin?
Speaker 14: Excuse me, Justice Marshall, you heard me.
Speaker 10: You represent the state of Texas. What is your position?
Speaker 9: Is there life in the first few weeks of pregnancy
Speaker 9: the last few. Surely, if your state intends to prohibit
Speaker 9: abortion on the grounds that it's taking away a life,
Speaker 9: you can tell us when the cutoff is, after all,
Speaker 9: mister Floyd, laws must be precise.
Speaker 14: Of course, Justice Marshall.
Speaker 16: So when is it, mister Floyd? Is there life after
Speaker 16: seven months, seven days one? Now the very moment of conception?
Speaker 8: Perhaps?
Speaker 14: Well, Justice Powell.
Speaker 5: And what scientific data do you have to support whatever
Speaker 5: your conclusion is, mister Floyd.
Speaker 17: And be specific, yes, Justice Blackman, it's the development of
Speaker 17: the embryo, is Mister Justice.
Speaker 14: I think it's humbling to there are some unanswerable.
Speaker 15: Questions, your honor, And we're talking about when the soul
Speaker 15: comes into the unborn, if a person believes in the soul,
Speaker 15: the soul.
Speaker 10: You know what, mister Floyd, did?
Speaker 12: I withdraw the question, Missus Weddington, You've made a very
Speaker 12: eloquent policy argument against the Texas law. What provisions of
Speaker 12: the Constitution do you rely on?
Speaker 2: Chief Justice Burger?
Speaker 3: In the lower court it was held that the right
Speaker 3: to terminate a pregnancy rested upon the Ninth Amendment. I
Speaker 3: think that the due process clause incorporated into the fourteenth
Speaker 3: Amendment is an equally appropriate place the Fourteenth Yes, just
Speaker 3: as Blackman prohibiting the deprivation of life, liberty, or property
Speaker 3: by the government. We believe that if liberty is meaningful
Speaker 3: at all, it should mean liberty from being forced to
Speaker 3: continue unwanted pregnancies.
Speaker 18: Missus Weddington, your case then depends primarily on our holding
Speaker 18: that the fetus is not a person with constitutional rights.
Speaker 18: Is that correct?
Speaker 2: Yes, Justice Brandon.
Speaker 5: So if it were established that the fetus was a life,
Speaker 5: you would have a difficult case, wouldn't you, Missus Weddington.
Speaker 19: Oh well, mister Floyd, do you know of any case
Speaker 19: anywhere that is that an unborn fetus is a person within.
Speaker 12: The meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment?
Speaker 14: No, mister Chief Justice.
Speaker 15: We can only go back to what the framers of
Speaker 15: our Constitution had in mind.
Speaker 18: Really, the framers, you want to take a moment to
Speaker 18: rethink that, mister Flood.
Speaker 15: Justice Brennan, I know this Court has given certain rights
Speaker 15: to groups that the Framers couldn't have foreseen in their day,
Speaker 15: But in this case there is no such rights that are.
Speaker 9: Mister Floyd, I don't think that's Justice Brennan's issue, or
Speaker 9: not his Ownly issue anyway.
Speaker 14: What is the issue, Justice Marshall.
Speaker 9: One issue is that the Framers were not particularly involved
Speaker 9: in the drafting of the Fourteenth Amendment.
Speaker 10: Mister Floyd. The Amendment was written in eighteen sixty six.
Speaker 9: Or are you suggesting that some of our founding fathers
Speaker 9: were immortals, mister.
Speaker 5: Floyd, No, your honor, I misspoke. Sticking with the Fourteenth
Speaker 5: Amendment for a moment, mister Floyd, let's look at the text.
Speaker 5: Does it define a person as someone who is born?
Speaker 15: It says all persons born or naturalized in the United
Speaker 15: States of America are afforded.
Speaker 5: Yes, But that's not the definition of a person, mister Floyd.
Speaker 5: That's the definition of a citizen. Isn't it true, mister Floyd,
Speaker 5: that the medical profession itself is not an agreement as
Speaker 5: to when life begins?
Speaker 14: I think that is true, Justice Blackman.
Speaker 15: But on the twentieth day, practically all of the faculties
Speaker 15: are there that you and I have.
Speaker 5: What are you basing that on, mister Floyd?
Speaker 14: On research, your honor?
Speaker 5: You care to be more specific.
Speaker 14: Your honor.
Speaker 15: A fetus is a person within the framework of the Constitution,
Speaker 15: simple as that.
Speaker 10: Uh huh.
Speaker 12: Of course, if you're right about that, mister Floyd. You
Speaker 12: can sit down. You've won your case.
Speaker 15: Yes, mister Chief Justice, the child has rights. This Court
Speaker 15: has been diligent in protecting the rights of the minority,
Speaker 15: and we hold that they are a minority, a silent minority,
Speaker 15: the true silent minority.
Speaker 14: Who is speaking for these children?
Speaker 15: Where is their protection for right to trial by jury
Speaker 15: when the mother wants to abord?
Speaker 5: Okay, But mister Floyd, if the fetus or embryo is
Speaker 5: not a person, then you've lost your case. If it's
Speaker 5: simple one way, it's just as simple. The other.
Speaker 20: Court observers are now pouring over the questions posed by
Speaker 20: the justices for any hints at how they might be leaning.
Speaker 20: The Court's decision has the potential to completely disrupt upcoming elections.
Speaker 20: In his previous life, Chief Justice Burger was an active
Speaker 20: member of the Republican Party. Can he now tune out
Speaker 20: the GOP's vocal desire to end the expansion of rice
Speaker 20: begun under the previous court, or will this case end
Speaker 20: up expanding them even more?
Speaker 6: How on earth did I let you drive me here? Sarah?
Speaker 6: I feel like I'm on a sixth grade field trip.
Speaker 3: Stop complaining will you how often are we in d
Speaker 3: see Linda?
Speaker 2: You think I'm not going to see the Lincoln Memorial.
Speaker 6: I'm just saying it's a strange way to celebrate what
Speaker 6: we just finished.
Speaker 3: And I think it's the perfect way. Let's pay our
Speaker 3: quick respects to honest tape. Then I want to see
Speaker 3: the Air and Space Museum and take one of those
Speaker 3: paddle boat things over to the Jefferson.
Speaker 6: Okay, just promise me we're not going back to the
Speaker 6: Supreme Court because the guided door would feel a little intoclimactic.
Speaker 2: Oh hush, Linda. Anyway, what do we have better to do?
Speaker 2: The case is officially out of our hands down. All
Speaker 2: we can do is wait, Hi, there.
Speaker 21: You two lovely ladies enjoying the sights.
Speaker 2: We sure are well.
Speaker 21: My buddies and I are heading over to duke Zieberts
Speaker 21: for some drinks. Would you ladies care to join?
Speaker 6: We're fine things anyway?
Speaker 10: What about you, doll?
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, we have a bunch of more sized to
Speaker 3: see today orally in town a couple of days.
Speaker 21: Okay, Well, can't blame a guy for trying. Where are
Speaker 21: you all visiting from from Dallas? No, the Cowboys are
Speaker 21: my team. What do you all do down there?
Speaker 2: We're lawyers.
Speaker 10: Get out of here.
Speaker 21: My pal over there and I are at Georgetown Law.
Speaker 10: Where are you two in school or not?
Speaker 6: We're practicing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, No, we are really re litigators.
Speaker 10: Mm hmm. Ever argued a case before?
Speaker 8: Uh huh, you could say.
Speaker 12: So, all right, let's get going, gentlemen. Anybody need anything
Speaker 12: before we start deliberations?
Speaker 10: Water, coffee, But let's just get going more.
Speaker 12: And find that Michael, take this back to my chambers.
Speaker 12: Tell the other porters we're squared away and let the
Speaker 12: clerks know. We'll be in closed conference. No disturbances.
Speaker 10: Yes, your.
Speaker 14: The state has the right to protect the fetus.
Speaker 5: End of story.
Speaker 12: Diving right in then, thank you, whizar.
Speaker 18: Oh Hawash Council demonstrated that the state has never given
Speaker 18: a fetus rights before. The young lady proved her argument.
Speaker 10: Yes she did, and the other lawyer, Floyd did himself.
Speaker 10: No favors. The Texas Statute is rife with contradictions.
Speaker 12: Doesn't mean we should strike it down their goood. It's
Speaker 12: still the state's issue to deal with. We should send
Speaker 12: it back to them.
Speaker 18: The country expects a resolution to this issue. We're not
Speaker 18: dodging at this time.
Speaker 12: Hey, no one's dodging anything, Bill, but it's not necessarily
Speaker 12: our role to weidhe in.
Speaker 10: The hell it isn't. The country's a mess. We can't
Speaker 10: have abortion illegal in the South and legal in the north.
Speaker 12: Oh, come on, do not equate this with eighteen sixty
Speaker 12: The good he's not whizzer. I'll be damned that this
Speaker 12: is going to become my dread Scott. But we also
Speaker 12: can't pretend this won't inflame the country whichever way we
Speaker 12: come down, Harry, what do you think?
Speaker 16: I'm well, maybe, now let's get into specifics. What about
Speaker 16: when the woman is married, does the husband have any
Speaker 16: say in whether she kills the baby?
Speaker 10: It's not a baby, Lewis, and it's not killing.
Speaker 12: Yes, But if we buy the privacy argument, husbands will
Speaker 12: have no control whatsoever.
Speaker 5: And I have a lot of trouble with that, so
Speaker 5: do I.
Speaker 12: I'm not about to suggest the ninth Amendment of the
Speaker 12: Constitution allows anybody to do anything they like in private,
Speaker 12: and certainly not something like this without consulting the father.
Speaker 10: No, certainly not.
Speaker 12: And I'd be interested to see the research about whether
Speaker 12: there's a connection between promiscuity and abortion.
Speaker 9: Holy hell, wizard. People aren't going to use it as
Speaker 9: a form of birth control.
Speaker 16: I have trouble with the idea that taxpayer money goes
Speaker 16: towards the procedure.
Speaker 10: It's less than what they'll pay for welfare.
Speaker 5: Lewis, Come on, all right, all right?
Speaker 10: Should we take a vote? See where we are?
Speaker 9: Absolutely not. We need to talk some more, Warren. We've
Speaker 9: barely scratched the surface.
Speaker 12: Let's just see where we're at their good. All those
Speaker 12: for striking down the Texas abortion law? Okay, all opposed? Okay,
Speaker 12: so that's about even with a couple of abstentions. Wait, Harry,
Speaker 12: I missed your vote.
Speaker 5: No you didn't. I didn't make one.
Speaker 10: You're not voting, Harry.
Speaker 5: I think we should talk more. We haven't even begun
Speaker 5: on medical ethics, and I want to reread some of
Speaker 5: the briefs.
Speaker 10: Look at that.
Speaker 16: I can't remember you ever not voting with your pal
Speaker 16: on a first go round.
Speaker 12: You're out of line, Lewis.
Speaker 5: I'm not voting with or against anyone. I'm simply abstaining
Speaker 5: until I have a chance to really dig into some
Speaker 5: of this.
Speaker 12: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 10: Harry? We discussed this, You discussed it. The hell does
Speaker 10: that mean.
Speaker 16: I don't think you two should be discussing your vote
Speaker 16: before all arguments.
Speaker 10: Oh please, you're always coluding with with me?
Speaker 18: Hey the hell, Hey, Convince.
Speaker 16: All you want point is this conference room is where
Speaker 16: we should first see where we all stay agreed.
Speaker 10: Otherwise there's the potential for too much politicking.
Speaker 12: All right, All right enough, Harry, what's your vote?
Speaker 5: Stop muddling around? I told you, Warren, I need to
Speaker 5: give further.
Speaker 12: Con veteration, should find you do that. In any event,
Speaker 12: I'm assigning the opinion to Harry.
Speaker 18: What talking about Warren?
Speaker 12: Harry is our resident expert in all medical matters. He
Speaker 12: worked at the Mayo Clinic.
Speaker 10: For years as in house counsel. Warren. He wasn't operating
Speaker 10: on people anyway.
Speaker 12: Harry hasn't written the decision in a major case.
Speaker 18: Yet exactly, So what it's his turn in the rotation
Speaker 18: or something, Warren. That's not how we do things.
Speaker 9: Bigger issue, gentlemen, this isn't your case to assign Warren.
Speaker 9: Douglas is the senior justice in the majority, So no.
Speaker 5: No, he's not.
Speaker 12: There's no majority yet their goods, so the chief makes
Speaker 12: the assignment.
Speaker 10: I could argue with the exact opposite with him.
Speaker 12: We're done here, gentlemen.
Speaker 13: Warren, hold up a second. You sure your boy is
Speaker 13: up for this? Lewis stop.
Speaker 16: I know Harry is your friend, but he's only been
Speaker 16: here a short time.
Speaker 5: He's not nearly ready for this. What the hell are
Speaker 5: you up to?
Speaker 10: Warren?
Speaker 5: Don't worry about it, Supreme.
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