1 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: From iHeart Podcasts. This is Supreme The Battle for Rows 2 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: eighteen Roll against Wayne, starring Maya Hawky and William H. Mason. 3 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 2: Whenever you are. 4 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 3: Ready, mister Chief Justice and Maya Pleased the Court. 5 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: Episode seven Marble Palace. 6 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 4: Mister Chief Justice man, please may please the court, please mabe. 7 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 5: Please the court. 8 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 2: Oh five am? Well that was wrestful. 9 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 6: Far fucking now, Linda, sh Sarah, no one's around. Who's 10 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 6: gonna hear me? The car doesn't care? 11 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: I hear you. Show some respect to this place. Brother. 12 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: We're supposed to go to the Marshall's office first. There 13 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: it is. Hello there, I'm Sarah Weddington and this is Linda. Coffee. 14 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 2: We're the lawyers arguing this morning. Sorry, we're a little early. 15 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 7: Come back in an hour, ladies, you'll still be early. 16 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 6: Come on, ma'am, have a heart, won't you. We've never 17 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 6: done this before. 18 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 2: We're nervous as heck. 19 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 6: Put yourself in our shoes. 20 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 7: Sorry, I need coffee. Welcome to the Supreme Court, ladies. 21 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 7: Here's a card authorizing what you may and may not 22 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 7: bring into the courtroom and other instructions. 23 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: For you both. 24 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 7: You have a third, don't you? 25 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 3: Yes? 26 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 6: Right, Lucas, I'll be at our table. He won't be 27 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 6: speaking now, let me see these instructions remain seated at 28 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 6: the reserve table through out the argument of the case, 29 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 6: which immediately precedes. 30 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: Your case that doesn't apply to us. We're the first 31 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: case today. 32 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 6: When counsel's turn comes for argument, he will proceed to 33 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 6: the rosterrum without being called. He should not begin until 34 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 6: he has been recognized by the Chief Justice. Then he 35 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 6: should open his argument with mister Chief Justice and may 36 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 6: it please the court? Wow? 37 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 7: Sorry about that. Not a lot of call for a 38 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 7: female version of these. 39 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 6: This is intense. There are fewer protocols when we meet 40 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 6: the queen. 41 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: How would you possibly know that? Linda? Thank you, ma'am. 42 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: Come on, Lyda, let's go. 43 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 7: Missus Weddington. 44 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 2: Yes, I just want you to know a bunch. 45 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 7: Of US staffers here at court we're rooting for you today. 46 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 7: Go get them. 47 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you so much, Linda. Did you just 48 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: hear what she just said to me? 49 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 6: Keep it together, Sarah. Check out the courtroom, Sarah, Okay, 50 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 6: you look white, I mean more than usual. 51 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: The courtroom is smaller than I thought. 52 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 6: Three hundred and fifty seats, isn't enough for you. You 53 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 6: think your jan is chompling all of a sudden. Look, 54 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 6: that must be the three minute section, my son. 55 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 3: For tourists, they sit for three minutes at a time, 56 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 3: then get replaced by a new group. 57 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 6: Well, that's not gonna be distracting at all. 58 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: But I had no idea. The lawyers stand was this 59 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: close to the bench. Why don't they move it back? 60 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: My God, when I stand here, if I reach out 61 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 2: my hand and the Chief Justice reaches out here, we 62 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 2: could shake. 63 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 6: Okay, but you're not gonna do that. Ray, right, Sarah. 64 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 3: It's like sitting in the dang front row of a 65 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 3: movie theater, says on the ends, won't even be in 66 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 3: my field of vision. 67 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 6: Breathe, Sarah breathed in an out look. Gifts for us, 68 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 6: handmade goose quill pens. We get to keep these. 69 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: Every lawyer who's ever argued here has. 70 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 6: Oh what is it now, Sarah, why do you look weird? 71 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 3: No, it's just it reminds me of my father's church. 72 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 3: I wasn't expecting that. 73 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 6: Okay, this is a bad time for an acid flashback, Sarah. 74 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 2: The pews, the gallery, the lectern, the stage. 75 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 6: Okay, is church a happy memory or a sad memory. 76 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 3: When I was a little girl, I used to entertain 77 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 3: my father's whole congregation. 78 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 2: There are some of my fondest memories. 79 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 6: Happy then, if I can just pull you back into 80 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 6: the present for a minute, Sarah, remember what we practiced. Look, 81 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 6: they even put a cheat sheet on the lectern for 82 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 6: you with the Justice seating arrangement. Make eye contact with 83 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 6: Powell on everything related to ninth Amendment. Look at Burger 84 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 6: when pushing the fourteenth. He may be persuadable on that. 85 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: What about black Man? 86 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 6: Don't focus on him, Harry. Blackman is just burger sidekick. 87 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 6: Convince Warren and Harry will follow, And don't go over 88 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 6: the allotted time. A white light goes on here when 89 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 6: you have a few minutes left, when the red light 90 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 6: goes on, sit your buck down. 91 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 3: I know I'm the one who told you all that 92 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 3: I got it. Linda good, Okay, So. 93 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 6: What do you want to do for the next three hours? 94 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: Excuse me, sir, We can't seem to find the lavatory 95 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 2: we're arguing. 96 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 5: This morning, of course, missus Whittington. It's in the lawyer's lock. 97 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 2: Actually, I only saw a man's room in there, Oh right. 98 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 5: The women's facilities are in the basement. 99 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: I think, of course, why. 100 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 3: Wouldn't they be, Sarah, Mama, you look so beautiful, sweetie. 101 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 2: Momma, you remember leading. 102 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 6: To coffee him? Missus Rigel, how was the fly? Very easy? 103 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 2: Here? 104 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 6: The girl's drum scrapook needs you a card? 105 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 2: Thanks, Mama. Where's Daddy still in the cap? 106 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 8: Daddy couldn't make it, Dear, What what do you mean? 107 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 6: He just he couldn't make it? Oh, Sarah, do not 108 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 6: fall apart on me. 109 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 9: Not now. 110 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: Big a day of my life and he couldn't come. 111 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 6: Excuse me, Missus Rigel, I need Sarah for a second. 112 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 6: Of course, go get ready. 113 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: Good luck, it's fine. Daddy's very busy. It's a long 114 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 2: trip from Dallas. 115 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 8: It's fine, Sarah. 116 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 6: Your father is a freaking minister and a Texan and 117 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 6: a man. Some part of you feel like if he 118 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 6: was a portive of this and almost wouldn't be worth 119 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 6: you in. 120 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 8: I guess. 121 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 5: I can't believe you scored these seats, Katie. 122 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 10: Must have been expensive. 123 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 11: It's not a next game, Mike yat they were free. 124 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: Did you speak to Sarah this morning? 125 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 6: Wish your good luck from the group. No, I didn't 126 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 6: want to rattle or we'll catch her after me. I 127 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 6: should be able to breathe again. 128 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 3: By then, missus Weddington, Thanks coffee, mister Lucas, good to 129 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 3: see you. 130 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 2: I can't believe this crowdland. Everybody's here. Look. Anne Richards 131 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 2: is sitting right over there. 132 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 6: By wrong yep, your husband is also two seats away 133 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 6: from Betty for Dan. 134 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,559 Speaker 2: That's Betty for Dan. Oh, and there's Mikey and Katie 135 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 2: from the Institute. There's being deb who those women in 136 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: the private area next to the bench. 137 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 6: I think that's the life's box. Believe me, no Justice's wife. 138 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 6: I used to miss this one. 139 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 3: I wonder what the justices are doing right now. I 140 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 3: think they're as nervous as we are. 141 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 6: Are you kidding? They're shaking their robes. They kind of 142 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 6: answer to the Sarah Wennington today. 143 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 5: What do you see between what distinction do you make 144 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 5: between one and nine months of justice? 145 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 12: You look nervous, Harry. 146 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 5: I'm just trying to be prepared, warn. 147 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 12: Relax, especially with this one. Not a lot of suspense here, 148 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 12: all right, gentlemen, here we go. 149 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 11: The Honorable the Chief Justice and the Associate Justices of 150 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 11: the Supreme Court of the United States o ya o 151 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 11: ya o ya. 152 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 6: All right, here we go, Sarah. 153 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 11: All persons having business before the Honorable the Supreme Court 154 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 11: of the United States are admonished to draw near and 155 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 11: give their attention. But the Court is now sitting. 156 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 13: Be sitting. 157 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 12: We'll hear arguments in number eighteen row against uh Wade. 158 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 12: Missus Weddington. You may proceed whenever you're ready. 159 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 3: Mister Chief Justice, and may it please the Court. The 160 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 3: Texas abortion laws are unconstitutional for two reasons. They're impermissibly vague, 161 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 3: and they violate a woman's rats. They permit abortions only 162 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 3: to save the life of the woman. 163 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 12: Now, Missus Weddington, does this hold true for doctors as well? 164 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 2: An interesting question, Chief Justice Burger, Why. 165 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 5: Thank you, Missus Weddington. 166 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 3: The current law is unclear, mister Chief Justice. Unless they 167 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 3: can prove it's necessary to save a woman's life, doctors 168 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 3: could be prosecuted under the law. But what if a 169 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 3: woman comes to a doctor alleging she'll commit suicide if 170 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 3: he doesn't give her an abortion. 171 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: What's the doctor to do? The law is too vague, 172 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 2: your honor. 173 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 5: Let's talk about access, Missus Weddington. 174 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 2: Oh okay, Justice. 175 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 5: Blackman, you go into it extensively in your brief, But 176 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 5: why is lack of access an undue burden on a woman? 177 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 2: Thank you for the question, Justice Blackman. 178 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 3: I would say that all personal and familial problems for 179 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 3: a woman are bound up in pregnancy. 180 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 2: It changes a woman's life. 181 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 3: What I mean to say is pregnancy is one of 182 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 3: the most determinative aspects of her life. It disrupts her body, 183 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 3: it disrupts her education, it disrupts her employment, and it 184 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 3: often disrupts her entire family. We feel that because of 185 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 3: this fundamental impact on the woman, she must have access 186 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 3: and ability to decide whether to continue or to terminate 187 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 3: her pregnancy. 188 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 12: Mister Floyd, when you're ready. 189 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 14: Mister Chief Justice, and may it please the court. 190 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 15: It's an old joke, but when a man argues against 191 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 15: two beautiful ladies like these, they are going to have 192 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 15: the last word. 193 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 5: Get on with it, mister Floyd. 194 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 14: Yes, mister Chief Justice. 195 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 15: Yes, Before I proceed, I would like to bring the 196 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 15: lack of standing to the Court's attention. We believe that 197 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 15: this case is moot and should be dismissed outright because 198 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 15: Jane Rowe, as well as the other plaintiffs are no 199 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 15: longer pregnant. 200 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 12: Mister Floyd, Are you suggesting there are no pregnant females 201 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 12: in the state of Texas. 202 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 5: This is a. 203 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 15: Class action suit, mister Floyd, Yes, your honor, But for 204 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 15: a class action suit to be valid, at least one 205 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 15: member of the original suit must have standing. 206 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 14: None of these plaintiffs in this case do. 207 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 5: Mister Floyd. In the American judicial system, cases take longer 208 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 5: than nine months to reach us. That's just fact. Under 209 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 5: your reasoning, how could any pregnant woman ever sue? 210 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 14: Withstanding they cannot justice Blackman? 211 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 15: Some issues simply have no remedy. What I mean to 212 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 15: say is that the woman makes her choice prior to 213 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 15: the time she becomes pregnant. 214 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 14: That is the time of choice. 215 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 12: Or maybe she makes her choice when she decides to 216 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 12: live in Texas. 217 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 3: Mister Floyd, your honors, how long a woman has been 218 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 3: pregnant should be a part of the Texas law and 219 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 3: it is not. 220 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 5: What distinctions do you make, missus Whittington me, your honor. Yes, 221 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 5: you point out that Texas law doesn't refer to how 222 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 5: long a woman has been pregnant, But what is your opinion? 223 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 3: It is a I would say I have a more 224 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 3: difficult time saying the state has no ability to regulate 225 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 3: in late pregnancy. 226 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 10: Justice black Man, Why why is that? 227 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 3: I think it's more the emotional response to a late pregnancy, 228 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 3: Justice Marshall say, in the seventh or eighth or ninth month, 229 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 3: it might be out of bounds, but it's an emotional 230 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 3: distinction rather than a constitutional one. 231 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 10: Emotional an emotional response by whom Missus. 232 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 3: Weddington, Well, I suppose by anyone considering this issue outside 233 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 3: the legal profession, just as Marshall. 234 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 5: In other words, you don't think there's a legal argument 235 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 5: to me made about the distinction between early and late 236 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 5: term abortions. Missus Weddington. 237 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 2: Well, if we're speaking about a legal context, your honor. 238 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 12: As long as we're in the courtroom, Missus Weddington, we 239 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 12: may as well. 240 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 5: This is Weddington. Let me make this simple. Do you 241 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 5: or don't you say that time frame should be a 242 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 5: part of the constitutional question. 243 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 3: I would say, yes, Your Honor, the number of months 244 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 3: that pass and a pregnancy are relevant. 245 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 10: Okay, then, mister Floyd, when does life begin? 246 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 14: Excuse me, Justice Marshall, you heard me. 247 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 10: You represent the state of Texas. What is your position? 248 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 9: Is there life in the first few weeks of pregnancy 249 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 9: the last few. Surely, if your state intends to prohibit 250 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 9: abortion on the grounds that it's taking away a life, 251 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 9: you can tell us when the cutoff is, after all, 252 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 9: mister Floyd, laws must be precise. 253 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 14: Of course, Justice Marshall. 254 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 16: So when is it, mister Floyd? Is there life after 255 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 16: seven months, seven days one? Now the very moment of conception? 256 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 8: Perhaps? 257 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 14: Well, Justice Powell. 258 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 5: And what scientific data do you have to support whatever 259 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 5: your conclusion is, mister Floyd. 260 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 17: And be specific, yes, Justice Blackman, it's the development of 261 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 17: the embryo, is Mister Justice. 262 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 14: I think it's humbling to there are some unanswerable. 263 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 15: Questions, your honor, And we're talking about when the soul 264 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 15: comes into the unborn, if a person believes in the soul, 265 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 15: the soul. 266 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 10: You know what, mister Floyd, did? 267 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 12: I withdraw the question, Missus Weddington, You've made a very 268 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 12: eloquent policy argument against the Texas law. What provisions of 269 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 12: the Constitution do you rely on? 270 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 2: Chief Justice Burger? 271 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 3: In the lower court it was held that the right 272 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 3: to terminate a pregnancy rested upon the Ninth Amendment. I 273 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 3: think that the due process clause incorporated into the fourteenth 274 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 3: Amendment is an equally appropriate place the Fourteenth Yes, just 275 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 3: as Blackman prohibiting the deprivation of life, liberty, or property 276 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 3: by the government. We believe that if liberty is meaningful 277 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 3: at all, it should mean liberty from being forced to 278 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 3: continue unwanted pregnancies. 279 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 18: Missus Weddington, your case then depends primarily on our holding 280 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 18: that the fetus is not a person with constitutional rights. 281 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 18: Is that correct? 282 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: Yes, Justice Brandon. 283 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 5: So if it were established that the fetus was a life, 284 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 5: you would have a difficult case, wouldn't you, Missus Weddington. 285 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 19: Oh well, mister Floyd, do you know of any case 286 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 19: anywhere that is that an unborn fetus is a person within. 287 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 12: The meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment? 288 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 14: No, mister Chief Justice. 289 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 15: We can only go back to what the framers of 290 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 15: our Constitution had in mind. 291 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 18: Really, the framers, you want to take a moment to 292 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 18: rethink that, mister Flood. 293 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 15: Justice Brennan, I know this Court has given certain rights 294 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 15: to groups that the Framers couldn't have foreseen in their day, 295 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 15: But in this case there is no such rights that are. 296 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 9: Mister Floyd, I don't think that's Justice Brennan's issue, or 297 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 9: not his Ownly issue anyway. 298 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 14: What is the issue, Justice Marshall. 299 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 9: One issue is that the Framers were not particularly involved 300 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 9: in the drafting of the Fourteenth Amendment. 301 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 10: Mister Floyd. The Amendment was written in eighteen sixty six. 302 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 9: Or are you suggesting that some of our founding fathers 303 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 9: were immortals, mister. 304 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 5: Floyd, No, your honor, I misspoke. Sticking with the Fourteenth 305 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 5: Amendment for a moment, mister Floyd, let's look at the text. 306 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 5: Does it define a person as someone who is born? 307 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 15: It says all persons born or naturalized in the United 308 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 15: States of America are afforded. 309 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 5: Yes, But that's not the definition of a person, mister Floyd. 310 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 5: That's the definition of a citizen. Isn't it true, mister Floyd, 311 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 5: that the medical profession itself is not an agreement as 312 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 5: to when life begins? 313 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 14: I think that is true, Justice Blackman. 314 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 15: But on the twentieth day, practically all of the faculties 315 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 15: are there that you and I have. 316 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 5: What are you basing that on, mister Floyd? 317 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 14: On research, your honor? 318 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 5: You care to be more specific. 319 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 14: Your honor. 320 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 15: A fetus is a person within the framework of the Constitution, 321 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 15: simple as that. 322 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 10: Uh huh. 323 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 12: Of course, if you're right about that, mister Floyd. You 324 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 12: can sit down. You've won your case. 325 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 15: Yes, mister Chief Justice, the child has rights. This Court 326 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 15: has been diligent in protecting the rights of the minority, 327 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 15: and we hold that they are a minority, a silent minority, 328 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 15: the true silent minority. 329 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 14: Who is speaking for these children? 330 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 15: Where is their protection for right to trial by jury 331 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 15: when the mother wants to abord? 332 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 5: Okay, But mister Floyd, if the fetus or embryo is 333 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 5: not a person, then you've lost your case. If it's 334 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 5: simple one way, it's just as simple. The other. 335 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 20: Court observers are now pouring over the questions posed by 336 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 20: the justices for any hints at how they might be leaning. 337 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 20: The Court's decision has the potential to completely disrupt upcoming elections. 338 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 20: In his previous life, Chief Justice Burger was an active 339 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 20: member of the Republican Party. Can he now tune out 340 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 20: the GOP's vocal desire to end the expansion of rice 341 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 20: begun under the previous court, or will this case end 342 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 20: up expanding them even more? 343 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 6: How on earth did I let you drive me here? Sarah? 344 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 6: I feel like I'm on a sixth grade field trip. 345 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 3: Stop complaining will you how often are we in d 346 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 3: see Linda? 347 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 2: You think I'm not going to see the Lincoln Memorial. 348 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 6: I'm just saying it's a strange way to celebrate what 349 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 6: we just finished. 350 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 3: And I think it's the perfect way. Let's pay our 351 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 3: quick respects to honest tape. Then I want to see 352 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 3: the Air and Space Museum and take one of those 353 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 3: paddle boat things over to the Jefferson. 354 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 6: Okay, just promise me we're not going back to the 355 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 6: Supreme Court because the guided door would feel a little intoclimactic. 356 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 2: Oh hush, Linda. Anyway, what do we have better to do? 357 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 2: The case is officially out of our hands down. All 358 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 2: we can do is wait, Hi, there. 359 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 21: You two lovely ladies enjoying the sights. 360 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 2: We sure are well. 361 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 21: My buddies and I are heading over to duke Zieberts 362 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 21: for some drinks. Would you ladies care to join? 363 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 6: We're fine things anyway? 364 00:20:59,119 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 10: What about you, doll? 365 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, we have a bunch of more sized to 366 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 3: see today orally in town a couple of days. 367 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 21: Okay, Well, can't blame a guy for trying. Where are 368 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,719 Speaker 21: you all visiting from from Dallas? No, the Cowboys are 369 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 21: my team. What do you all do down there? 370 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 2: We're lawyers. 371 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 10: Get out of here. 372 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 21: My pal over there and I are at Georgetown Law. 373 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 10: Where are you two in school or not? 374 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 6: We're practicing? 375 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, No, we are really re litigators. 376 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 10: Mm hmm. Ever argued a case before? 377 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 8: Uh huh, you could say. 378 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 12: So, all right, let's get going, gentlemen. Anybody need anything 379 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 12: before we start deliberations? 380 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 10: Water, coffee, But let's just get going more. 381 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 12: And find that Michael, take this back to my chambers. 382 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 12: Tell the other porters we're squared away and let the 383 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 12: clerks know. We'll be in closed conference. No disturbances. 384 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 10: Yes, your. 385 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 14: The state has the right to protect the fetus. 386 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 5: End of story. 387 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 12: Diving right in then, thank you, whizar. 388 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 18: Oh Hawash Council demonstrated that the state has never given 389 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 18: a fetus rights before. The young lady proved her argument. 390 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 10: Yes she did, and the other lawyer, Floyd did himself. 391 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 10: No favors. The Texas Statute is rife with contradictions. 392 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 12: Doesn't mean we should strike it down their goood. It's 393 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 12: still the state's issue to deal with. We should send 394 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 12: it back to them. 395 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 18: The country expects a resolution to this issue. We're not 396 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 18: dodging at this time. 397 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 12: Hey, no one's dodging anything, Bill, but it's not necessarily 398 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 12: our role to weidhe in. 399 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 10: The hell it isn't. The country's a mess. We can't 400 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 10: have abortion illegal in the South and legal in the north. 401 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 12: Oh, come on, do not equate this with eighteen sixty 402 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 12: The good he's not whizzer. I'll be damned that this 403 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 12: is going to become my dread Scott. But we also 404 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 12: can't pretend this won't inflame the country whichever way we 405 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 12: come down, Harry, what do you think? 406 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 16: I'm well, maybe, now let's get into specifics. What about 407 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 16: when the woman is married, does the husband have any 408 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 16: say in whether she kills the baby? 409 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 10: It's not a baby, Lewis, and it's not killing. 410 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 12: Yes, But if we buy the privacy argument, husbands will 411 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 12: have no control whatsoever. 412 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 5: And I have a lot of trouble with that, so 413 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 5: do I. 414 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 12: I'm not about to suggest the ninth Amendment of the 415 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 12: Constitution allows anybody to do anything they like in private, 416 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 12: and certainly not something like this without consulting the father. 417 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 10: No, certainly not. 418 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 12: And I'd be interested to see the research about whether 419 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 12: there's a connection between promiscuity and abortion. 420 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 9: Holy hell, wizard. People aren't going to use it as 421 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 9: a form of birth control. 422 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 16: I have trouble with the idea that taxpayer money goes 423 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 16: towards the procedure. 424 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 10: It's less than what they'll pay for welfare. 425 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 5: Lewis, Come on, all right, all right? 426 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 10: Should we take a vote? See where we are? 427 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 9: Absolutely not. We need to talk some more, Warren. We've 428 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 9: barely scratched the surface. 429 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 12: Let's just see where we're at their good. All those 430 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 12: for striking down the Texas abortion law? Okay, all opposed? Okay, 431 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 12: so that's about even with a couple of abstentions. Wait, Harry, 432 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 12: I missed your vote. 433 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 5: No you didn't. I didn't make one. 434 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 10: You're not voting, Harry. 435 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 5: I think we should talk more. We haven't even begun 436 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 5: on medical ethics, and I want to reread some of 437 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 5: the briefs. 438 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 10: Look at that. 439 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 16: I can't remember you ever not voting with your pal 440 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 16: on a first go round. 441 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 12: You're out of line, Lewis. 442 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 5: I'm not voting with or against anyone. I'm simply abstaining 443 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,719 Speaker 5: until I have a chance to really dig into some 444 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:31,959 Speaker 5: of this. 445 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 12: Are you kidding me? 446 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 10: Harry? We discussed this, You discussed it. The hell does 447 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 10: that mean. 448 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 16: I don't think you two should be discussing your vote 449 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 16: before all arguments. 450 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 10: Oh please, you're always coluding with with me? 451 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 18: Hey the hell, Hey, Convince. 452 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 16: All you want point is this conference room is where 453 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 16: we should first see where we all stay agreed. 454 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 10: Otherwise there's the potential for too much politicking. 455 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 12: All right, All right enough, Harry, what's your vote? 456 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 5: Stop muddling around? I told you, Warren, I need to 457 00:24:59,000 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 5: give further. 458 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 12: Con veteration, should find you do that. In any event, 459 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 12: I'm assigning the opinion to Harry. 460 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 18: What talking about Warren? 461 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 12: Harry is our resident expert in all medical matters. He 462 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 12: worked at the Mayo Clinic. 463 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 10: For years as in house counsel. Warren. He wasn't operating 464 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 10: on people anyway. 465 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 12: Harry hasn't written the decision in a major case. 466 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 18: Yet exactly, So what it's his turn in the rotation 467 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 18: or something, Warren. That's not how we do things. 468 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 9: Bigger issue, gentlemen, this isn't your case to assign Warren. 469 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 9: Douglas is the senior justice in the majority, So no. 470 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 5: No, he's not. 471 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 12: There's no majority yet their goods, so the chief makes 472 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 12: the assignment. 473 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 10: I could argue with the exact opposite with him. 474 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 12: We're done here, gentlemen. 475 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 13: Warren, hold up a second. You sure your boy is 476 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 13: up for this? Lewis stop. 477 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 16: I know Harry is your friend, but he's only been 478 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 16: here a short time. 479 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 5: He's not nearly ready for this. What the hell are 480 00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 5: you up to? 481 00:25:58,760 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 10: Warren? 482 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 5: Don't worry about it, Supreme. 483 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: The Battle Farrow from iHeart Podcasts, created and written by 484 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: Aaron Tracy, directed by Rachel Winter, starring Maya Hawk, William h. 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