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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hanss. I'm joined in a room
Speaker 1: filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rosehal
Speaker 1: what is up? Boys? And eat that meat? Mark, Cela,
Speaker 1: come on back. We're waiting, Hey, Dan, I mean, the
Speaker 1: money tags are becoming more bizarre by the week, but
Speaker 1: we do it also factually, and I'm all back. Dan
Speaker 1: had some Korean barbecue this weekend. I mean we love
Speaker 1: the meat. Yeah, you were not included in that, but
Speaker 1: the three of the rest of us make up for you.
Speaker 1: Not only did I have Korean barbecue, I mean what
Speaker 1: a family affair. This podcast is Korean food in Korea town. Uh,
Speaker 1: chosen by Greg. I see Greg tell us tell us
Speaker 1: my wife and I where to go? Went to this
Speaker 1: place that he liked. We need somebody to watch your kids.
Speaker 1: Chris Westling, Uncle West and aunt Lakisha watch the boys,
Speaker 1: good boys and um and now we're all together here
Speaker 1: in the studio. And Mark, you were around, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I didn't play any any serviceable role. Mark, keep getting
Speaker 1: left out of these things. I mean I feel like
Speaker 1: you would be happy to be left out of that,
Speaker 1: you know, child, and I'm already involved with picking out
Speaker 1: meat restaurants. Is not something you would go to. Um,
Speaker 1: this is the Week four Sunday recap show, our flagship show. UH,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna go through all of the games that
Speaker 1: were played on Sunday one by one, as we do
Speaker 1: every week. Uh. It's also streaming on video, so we
Speaker 1: get we have everything coming to you guys, great content.
Speaker 1: And it was a week greg where if you went
Speaker 1: to an NFL game, UH, and you wanted to root
Speaker 1: for your favorite team, there's a good chance you went
Speaker 1: home disappointed. Home teams two and eleven this week four,
Speaker 1: entering Sunday night, we don't know at this time, we
Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna happen uh in New Orleans. But
Speaker 1: two and eleven the home teams went. That's outrageous. I'm
Speaker 1: taking a stand that as outrageous. Although I do think
Speaker 1: home and field advantage it's a little overrated. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: always we make a big deal out of it all
Speaker 1: this week it was well, I don't think it's overrated
Speaker 1: as it it's just like it's just like a yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just sort of like an extra little thing, but
Speaker 1: you know, you make a big deal about it. Come on,
Speaker 1: come come down in September. All right, Okay, that's an
Speaker 1: interesting I thoroughly disagree, but I but I hear what
Speaker 1: you're saying. So we're gonna go through all these games,
Speaker 1: many of them. As I just said, we'll feature teams
Speaker 1: on the road that's stepped up in a big way.
Speaker 1: And why don't we start in the game. Everybody was
Speaker 1: excited about Western New York. The Buffalo Bills three and oh,
Speaker 1: feeling themselves welcome to New England, Patriots the town. Would
Speaker 1: the Bills make a huge statement or would the Patriots
Speaker 1: do Patriot things? And a third and ten staff Parking
Speaker 1: drops back. There's probabi second Jenny Collins ut side first
Speaker 1: out of bounds, but the interception was forest like Kyle
Speaker 1: van Noy who hit Barkley with the deflection to Collins
Speaker 1: with one seven to go. Here on the fourth, Bob
Speaker 1: soci with the call, do we have Scott's lock on
Speaker 1: suspension on this show after his absurd, ridiculous Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: cheerleading in week one? Is that what we're doing? Ricky, Alright,
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. Reggy ke Good talking about Patriots
Speaker 1: Radio network with the call yes. Jamie Collins comes down
Speaker 1: with the loose ball off the hit from Kyle van
Speaker 1: Noy on the past attempt from Matt Barkley to play
Speaker 1: ceiling a Patriot sixteen to ten win over the Bills
Speaker 1: in Orchard Park. The Bills made this a game after
Speaker 1: a very slow start, but there would be no magic
Speaker 1: when Barkley replaced an injured Josh Allen greg who bravely
Speaker 1: locked up the Patriots in this guy That's God. Didn't
Speaker 1: see a lot of offense on displaying buff No. You asked,
Speaker 1: you know going into this game. Did the Bills make
Speaker 1: a statement or did the Patriots two Patriot things? I
Speaker 1: guess it's both. Because the Bills made a statement. They
Speaker 1: made Tom Brady look worse than he has in in
Speaker 1: a long time. This was his lowest passer rating since
Speaker 1: two thousand six in a game. It's the most passes
Speaker 1: he's ever thrown in a game without getting to two yards.
Speaker 1: Didn't even get close. He had one fifty. He was
Speaker 1: under completion. They had seven drives where they went three
Speaker 1: and out. They had only a couple more where they
Speaker 1: got one first down, They did nothing offensively, and late
Speaker 1: in the game, they were inside the five yard line
Speaker 1: with a chance to go up two scores, and they
Speaker 1: smartly kicked a field goal. And I thought that was
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick saying, this Bill's defense is too good for us.
Speaker 1: We need to just go up six points. That's the
Speaker 1: kind of defense Buffalo played. But they get a special
Speaker 1: team's touchdown, they knock out Josh Allen in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: and they do a lot of things defensively on their
Speaker 1: own to get the West shopped me in my tracks.
Speaker 1: The decision fourth and goal to not go for it,
Speaker 1: because it feels like a Patriots thing that they would
Speaker 1: go for it, and since the moment, but you're right,
Speaker 1: they had that much faith in their defense, which they should.
Speaker 1: New England's defense is incredible, and the Bills just weren't
Speaker 1: moving the ball. I mean, you locked up New England.
Speaker 1: But if someone had told me that you would have
Speaker 1: held Tom Brady to three point eight yards per attempt,
Speaker 1: if you would have given up only sixteen points to
Speaker 1: this offense, and if Frank or would have run for
Speaker 1: a hundred and nine yards at six point four yards
Speaker 1: per carry, I would have locked up the Bills. I
Speaker 1: would have thought they're going to find a way to
Speaker 1: They're not an explosive offense, but find a way to
Speaker 1: get seventeen points. And I mean the difference was the
Speaker 1: punt return touchdown, the Patriots score. The Patriots offense only
Speaker 1: scored ten, Bills offense scored ten, and the Patriots defense
Speaker 1: was very lucky to hold the Bills to only ten
Speaker 1: because the Bills did do a better job, especially in
Speaker 1: the second half, moving up and down the field. But
Speaker 1: the situational defense that the Patriots have, especially in the
Speaker 1: red zone with Jamie Collins and Kyle van Noy and
Speaker 1: everything that they can do was really special. Today. You're
Speaker 1: tipping your tap, you're tipping your cap to a good
Speaker 1: Bills defense and a well coached team. But how much
Speaker 1: of this doesn't raise any red flags for you on
Speaker 1: the Patriots offense. It's a long season. I said going
Speaker 1: into this game. I didn't think their offense was nearly
Speaker 1: up to speed. Their offensive line got pushed around. I
Speaker 1: think this Bill's defense had a great plan for them.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, they have to be it. They're gonna
Speaker 1: be a different team in December one way or another.
Speaker 1: Whether they're better or worse. They're gonna be totally different.
Speaker 1: The fact that they were able to sneak out a
Speaker 1: win was nice. The peace scale was high, though, Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, you haven't asked me that in a while,
Speaker 1: and I just felt like they were not the better
Speaker 1: team in this game, and so my peace scale was
Speaker 1: And I won't be asking you on Thursday's preview show
Speaker 1: when they are preparing for the Washington Redskins either. UM,
Speaker 1: my schedule for the path so far, feel free to
Speaker 1: lock that came up. By the way, Greg, there's no rules.
Speaker 1: I might lock it up because I'm owing four in
Speaker 1: the locks. We'll get to that on Thursday. John Brown
Speaker 1: biggest individual play of the game. UH takes the pass
Speaker 1: from Matt Barkley. UM this late in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: UH gets stopped at the one jo wanted by Stephan Gilmour,
Speaker 1: who makes an incredible tackle, And that was the closest
Speaker 1: that the Bills came. They gave very close to time
Speaker 1: this game, and multiple times misses a field goal, a
Speaker 1: very makeable field goal at the end of the first half, which, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously every point counts in a low scoring
Speaker 1: game like this. The Patriots knocked out Josh Allen and
Speaker 1: what you know, I think is controversial call up. I
Speaker 1: don't think it was a dirt I mean a controversial hit.
Speaker 1: They called the penalty on the Patriots. It was a
Speaker 1: play where they were trying. It was a desperate situation.
Speaker 1: They're trying to stop him from getting a first down.
Speaker 1: He was picking up about six yards and and I
Speaker 1: think who wasn't it was j C. Jackson just knocked
Speaker 1: him right in the helmet, like cold in his tracks.
Speaker 1: They they flagged him. I didn't think it was anything
Speaker 1: dirty necessarily about it, but it changes the game. Barkley
Speaker 1: came in there, had better decisions, moved the ball actually
Speaker 1: a little better than Josh Allen did, but they were
Speaker 1: multiple throws where he just didn't have the car to complete.
Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting. The Bills tweeted out a
Speaker 1: video of Micah Hyde, Buffalo defender defender, saying that but
Speaker 1: Brady would have if someone hit Brady that way, they
Speaker 1: would have been ejected. There might be some controversial thing
Speaker 1: for a team to tweet out. There might be something
Speaker 1: to that because in in that play, Josh Allen has
Speaker 1: kind of has his head down and his running I
Speaker 1: would I just assumed he was getting that first down
Speaker 1: before he got knocked over, and you're treating him like
Speaker 1: a running back. And that's that's what happened. And this
Speaker 1: shouldn't be lost in the in the mix either with
Speaker 1: Allen because he does go out with a head injury
Speaker 1: and hopefully it's okay and not something that keeps him
Speaker 1: in the sidelines. Did not play a good game, Greg,
Speaker 1: maybe you could shine a little more light on but
Speaker 1: just from what I saw, and when you look at
Speaker 1: his numbers, three interceptions, um, they only scored uh what
Speaker 1: ten points when he was on the field, and in general.
Speaker 1: We talked about this leading into the game. This was
Speaker 1: a big like spotlight check on Allen and he did
Speaker 1: not exactly straight. He hasn't in the first three weeks either.
Speaker 1: I mean, he started out the game totally abysmal, one
Speaker 1: for eight with two fumbles and two interceptions and ten
Speaker 1: yards in the first quarter. He's not accurate. They came
Speaker 1: out after halftime. I think Brian Dable, who's their former
Speaker 1: Patriots coordinator, did a smart thing. Starting in them in tempo.
Speaker 1: They did a hurry up. They had a great touchdown drive.
Speaker 1: That was the only time they look good all your
Speaker 1: old game don't know why they didn't go back to that,
Speaker 1: but three interceptions and a couple of fumbles, one that
Speaker 1: got overturned my penalty. No, he he hasn't looked that
Speaker 1: much better. I can't think of a quarterback in the
Speaker 1: league where I would love to know what team brass
Speaker 1: truly think about him behind the scenes, because there's a
Speaker 1: lot to like about I think there's a lot to
Speaker 1: a lot to him that's positive. But the turnovers are
Speaker 1: You cannot advance in the NFL with that kind of
Speaker 1: an issue. This is this isn't a veteran defense. It
Speaker 1: really hit me today how old the key guys are.
Speaker 1: It's not a young defense. I mean, Devin mccordy's playing
Speaker 1: as well as he ever did. Jamie Collins is wearing
Speaker 1: the captain's green doting right now. That's where Jamie Collins
Speaker 1: is played every single sex snaps seventy nine snaps today.
Speaker 1: Not gone is gone, and he was better than Tower
Speaker 1: could have been. You know what it isn't on It's
Speaker 1: a total testament to New England because when he went
Speaker 1: to Cleveland and they paid him a ton of money
Speaker 1: and they were not a good team obviously on any level,
Speaker 1: but he was accused by fans and onlookers and tape
Speaker 1: watchers of being a guy that was taking plays off
Speaker 1: in series at a time off and you got the
Speaker 1: worst version of me goes to New England. They totally
Speaker 1: flipped the switch on the dude. Well, if you remember
Speaker 1: the reason why the Patriots traded him, and the first
Speaker 1: place was the reports that he was freelancing on defense,
Speaker 1: it was just doing whatever he wanted to do. But
Speaker 1: it's similar to Kyle van Noy. I mean, who is
Speaker 1: he in Detroit right now? He is the best player
Speaker 1: in the Patriots front seven and he had a big
Speaker 1: He's a defensive player. Of that your candidate. If he
Speaker 1: keeps playing like this, by the way, that would be amazing.
Speaker 1: Before we move on, I want to point one thing out.
Speaker 1: We've been joking about it the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: The tired um insight that the way to get to
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is to, you know, you get pushed that middle,
Speaker 1: win the battle in the trenches, get pressure in his face. Well,
Speaker 1: there is a Patriots version of that as well that
Speaker 1: you hear every game. Anybody want to take a crack
Speaker 1: out out because they the Bills did a good job
Speaker 1: of that, they moved him off his spot. They said
Speaker 1: that about ten times. And the Patriots version of the
Speaker 1: tired cliche and Alice is Bill Belichick. This is what
Speaker 1: he does. He takes away the one thing you do best,
Speaker 1: takes away that one thing. I don't even know what
Speaker 1: that means, takes the thing that you do best, and
Speaker 1: then now try to beat us, unlike other coaches attempting that.
Speaker 1: Thurman Thomas thirty five years ago or whatever, takes it away,
Speaker 1: takes it away. We can take and get tucked in
Speaker 1: there off the right hip hand off, Darrell Williams trying
Speaker 1: to dive Die tucks down Jans sitting. Darrell Williams gets
Speaker 1: barely into the end zone, but twenty seconds left in
Speaker 1: the game to put the Chiefs up thirty three. Mitch
Speaker 1: Halt Chief's radio network with a call yes, Daryl Williams
Speaker 1: takes it in for one yard. Owt Patrick Mahomes converted
Speaker 1: a fourth down with a run of fifteen yards to
Speaker 1: extend that game winning drive, and the Chiefs survived after
Speaker 1: a hell Mary that closed that a win over the
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions at Ford Field in a game that uh listen,
Speaker 1: they don't hand out medals and their own hand out lollipops.
Speaker 1: UH two teams for losing, But the Lions deserve credit
Speaker 1: here for really playing the Chiefs wired to wire and
Speaker 1: they played really well in this game. They played well
Speaker 1: on offense. Matthew Stafford UH played again good football. UM
Speaker 1: carry On Johnson had a hundred and twenty five yards
Speaker 1: and the Lions rang up about a buck on the ground. UH.
Speaker 1: Their defense, specifically UH their secondary avoided giving up big plays,
Speaker 1: which of course is what the Chiefs do, and the
Speaker 1: front four of the Lions consider instantly got Mahomes uncomfortable
Speaker 1: and gave him I wouldn't say happy feet, but caused
Speaker 1: him to just throw him a little bit out of sync.
Speaker 1: Like when you watch this game again, especially in the
Speaker 1: first two quarters, I'd say there will be three or
Speaker 1: four plays that the Chiefs hit with regularity that go
Speaker 1: for fifty yards or eighty yards or seventy five yards,
Speaker 1: and he just Mahomes just kept missing them. So and
Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a credit to the Lions for
Speaker 1: their effort, but it's also a reminder that in a
Speaker 1: game where Patrick Mahomes does not throw out touchdown pass,
Speaker 1: which has only happened four times in his career, and
Speaker 1: he had fourteen straight games that streak ended where he
Speaker 1: had at least two touchdown passes. Well, he doesn't need
Speaker 1: to fill up the box score to leave this offense.
Speaker 1: They they still put up thirty four points. He still
Speaker 1: went over three hundred yards, and when it mattered most,
Speaker 1: when they're down three points, he takes over at their
Speaker 1: twenty one yard line and goes seventy nine yards on
Speaker 1: thirteen plays, uh for the clinching touchdown. So uh, the
Speaker 1: Chief showed me a little did a little backbone in
Speaker 1: a game that could have easily gotten away from him
Speaker 1: and they would have survived if they would have lost
Speaker 1: and moved on, but they decided to find a way
Speaker 1: to close it out. And the Lions they deserve some respect.
Speaker 1: They didn't win, and I still don't think the Lions
Speaker 1: are any powerhouse West in the NFC, but I absolutely
Speaker 1: think they showed us today that when they're having a
Speaker 1: good day, they could play with anybody. I started developing
Speaker 1: some feelings for the Lions last week against the Eagles.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm falling in love with them, but
Speaker 1: there are some feelings there where this team is frisky.
Speaker 1: They seemed to be well coached, whereas last year the
Speaker 1: whole narrative was that there might be almost a rebellion
Speaker 1: going on because nobody liked Matt Patricia. But they seemed
Speaker 1: to be well coached, they seemed to play together well,
Speaker 1: and like I said Thursday, they have good starters. I
Speaker 1: just if they have an injury or two on offense,
Speaker 1: I think they're cooked. It's uh. I mean, it seems
Speaker 1: like it was a game of what ifs, though, because
Speaker 1: they had four possessions inside Kansas City's eight yard line
Speaker 1: and came away with ten points. There were three chiefs
Speaker 1: fumbles at one turn of the point of the game
Speaker 1: where Detroit came away with no points off of that.
Speaker 1: But I couldn't agree more. And and you know, watching
Speaker 1: this out of the corner of my eye, the crowd
Speaker 1: was super into this. I didn't We've I've panned Lions fandom,
Speaker 1: I panned the home stadium, I panned everything to do
Speaker 1: with Detroit for a long time. I'm with you, this
Speaker 1: feels like a different operation. And it's not that surprising
Speaker 1: if you're Matt Patricia that there was a rebellion. If
Speaker 1: you're gonna bring in a Belichick like culture change. Most
Speaker 1: teams are gonna bounce on that in year one, and
Speaker 1: they got rid of some of those guys that didn't fit.
Speaker 1: So the big uh you mentioned issues in the red
Speaker 1: zone the biggest turn of this game. It was a
Speaker 1: fourteen point swing. So Walter Anderson is the official, the
Speaker 1: lead official official of this crew that put in this game.
Speaker 1: It's the same Walter Anderson crew that blew the whistle
Speaker 1: in Week two on Rams Saints, costing the Saints a
Speaker 1: long time having a good year. I mean while Anderson
Speaker 1: has been NFL official almost longer than Erica our our producer,
Speaker 1: has been alive, and I mean like the lead official.
Speaker 1: That's how he's definitely been an official for a lot
Speaker 1: that Walt, I'm sure I got called to the carpet
Speaker 1: after that game at the Superdome where they prematurely blew
Speaker 1: that play dead. Who knows how that game turns out,
Speaker 1: if that touchdown stands for the Saints. Well, this was
Speaker 1: this showed some growth or perhaps um the ability to
Speaker 1: know that your job could be on the line if
Speaker 1: you don't straight now. Because he does not blow the
Speaker 1: whistle on a carry On Johnson play near the goal
Speaker 1: line where he reaches out about six inches shy the
Speaker 1: goal line, it gets knocked out of his hands. Uh,
Speaker 1: and Bush Brelan to his credit, Uh, He's just jumps
Speaker 1: in out of nowhere, scoops it up, starts jogging in
Speaker 1: the other direction. No whistles blown, no one is playing
Speaker 1: the ball, and he just jogs into the end zone.
Speaker 1: It's ruled a touchdown on the field, and then it
Speaker 1: stands on a review, so it goes from it was
Speaker 1: thirteen thirteen, what could have been a Lions lead was
Speaker 1: all of a sudden Chiefs lead. And again to Detroit's credit,
Speaker 1: that was an absolutely crushing uh set act at that point. Greg,
Speaker 1: I believe you heard me say this game is over
Speaker 1: at that point because you just assumed that the Detroit
Speaker 1: lines would crumble after that. To their credit, they kept
Speaker 1: on coming back. In fact, they took three leads in
Speaker 1: the second half, but Mahomes and the Chiefs kept coming
Speaker 1: and Uh, they deserve credit for that. Stafford banged up
Speaker 1: in this. I thought, I I didn't see anything. Um,
Speaker 1: maybe there was something of a hip issue. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure I would have to hit. Yeah, he was playing
Speaker 1: through it, but he played great and he's I think
Speaker 1: he's been very good for them, uh the season. On balance,
Speaker 1: it shows that the Chiefs are playing a different game
Speaker 1: than everyone else. Though, when you're when you're without Tyreek
Speaker 1: Hill and did other defense does all these good things
Speaker 1: to you and Mahomes doesn't throw a touchdown and you
Speaker 1: still wind up with four and thirty eight yards completely
Speaker 1: just like that's like the base line. Yeah, and and
Speaker 1: I kind of did hit on it a little bit.
Speaker 1: But in that touchdown drive, the thirteen play, seventy nine
Speaker 1: yard drive that led to the game, when we scored,
Speaker 1: the Detroit lines have the Chiefs at fourth and eight. Uh.
Speaker 1: In the Chiefs are in their own side of the
Speaker 1: field and they have to play well covered. When Mahomes
Speaker 1: drops back to past and Mahomes takes off for fifteen yards,
Speaker 1: keeps the drive alive. Yeah, I think this is this
Speaker 1: shows that this is a bad Mahomes game. You know,
Speaker 1: we see bad Cousins games are bad Trabiskie games are
Speaker 1: bad Flacco games. In a bad Mahomes game, they score
Speaker 1: thirty four points. He rushes for fifty four yards and
Speaker 1: has an higher ESPN qb R than Matthew Stafford, who
Speaker 1: threw for three touchdowns and played almost flawless, and at
Speaker 1: the end of the game, when when with the game
Speaker 1: on the line and him set up to march for
Speaker 1: a potential game winning score, I had no internal doubts
Speaker 1: that he was going to get it done. And I know,
Speaker 1: I know it's early, but I'm sure I wasn't the
Speaker 1: only Patriots fan and maybe Ryan Bartlett are our producer
Speaker 1: as a Chiefs fan was tracking the Patriots. I was,
Speaker 1: you know, seeing this and thinking, we're down to the
Speaker 1: last two undefeated teams in the a f C. These
Speaker 1: were the best two teams last year. They kind of
Speaker 1: looked like the best two teams so far. Like the
Speaker 1: race every lost between these two teams. I think it's
Speaker 1: important and so I think in well, it's clinched now
Speaker 1: for the Patriots. Why is that Because the Chiefs can
Speaker 1: only win fifteen, the Patriots will win sixth. I don't
Speaker 1: think that's gonna happen. So that that's over. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying each each one of the they're not gonna be
Speaker 1: able to afford many glasses. Yeah, that's true. All right,
Speaker 1: Let's check in on the a f C North Hey
Speaker 1: Field with Chupp behind a tall suite beer side. Here
Speaker 1: comes Chop with a cutback. He's up to the fort.
Speaker 1: Here he goes to the fifty, hare goes jump. He's
Speaker 1: gonna go twenty fiftime touchdown job, He's got a hat trick.
Speaker 1: Whoa eighty eight yards fight Chub Jim Donovan with the
Speaker 1: call Brown's Radio Network. If you're sensing in Mark Sesler's
Speaker 1: voice a little extras, you know, pep to it and
Speaker 1: if you look at it the way he's walking around
Speaker 1: NFL network, Pep's a little time to his step filing happy.
Speaker 1: He's a happy man, and there is a direct correlation
Speaker 1: everybody the Browns win. Mark's happy, so we need the
Speaker 1: Browns to keep winning, just like today eight yards Nick Chubb,
Speaker 1: It's well, you told our entire British audience that without
Speaker 1: where we had not spent more than eight seconds together
Speaker 1: all day. But that's fine next to each other. What
Speaker 1: are you talking about? There was a there was a
Speaker 1: difference to Mark Sessler today and it's because of those Browns.
Speaker 1: Eighty eight yard touchdown round by Nick Chubb uh an
Speaker 1: important and impressive for for the Browns over the division
Speaker 1: rival ravens Mark out of nowhere. The Browns two and
Speaker 1: two share first place in the a f C North.
Speaker 1: They're okay, they're okay. It's maybe better than okay. It's
Speaker 1: how they won today, how they performed from wire to
Speaker 1: wire on both sides of the ball. That has me
Speaker 1: and I was thinking about this downstairs. This is the
Speaker 1: biggest Browns win in ten fifteen years. There was a
Speaker 1: year they were ten and six that they didn't make
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Here's why I think that's the case, because
Speaker 1: we are two or three days removed from most people
Speaker 1: thinking that Freddie Kitchens is someone who's in totally over
Speaker 1: his head, that Baker Mayfield talks more than he performs
Speaker 1: in year two as a quarterback, that the offense, which
Speaker 1: came in with so much hope, looked completely broken, and
Speaker 1: there the words coming out of Cleveland from the coaching
Speaker 1: staff did not sound like we plan to adjust. We
Speaker 1: just planned to keep doing what we're doing. And there
Speaker 1: was legit concern about where this team was going and
Speaker 1: what the reaction would be for me three or four
Speaker 1: weeks from now if they started one in five or
Speaker 1: you know, one in five, you go into your by
Speaker 1: then you play the Patriots season over. This is your
Speaker 1: most natural rival outside of Pittsburgh, the Baltimore Ravens. They
Speaker 1: were they came from your own belly if you're a
Speaker 1: Browns fan. They were pulled out of the Browns failure
Speaker 1: when they moved. It's a disaster. And they've been dominated
Speaker 1: by Baltimore for so long, and I thought this was
Speaker 1: the kind of Ravens team that might be the worst
Speaker 1: type of team for Cleveland to match up with. And
Speaker 1: Steve Wilkes has done an incredible job with Cleveland's defense,
Speaker 1: and I think we all we talked about is Cleveland's
Speaker 1: offense over and over. It happened against the Rams. They
Speaker 1: had a great game plan with with their two with
Speaker 1: four defensive backs starter starters out last against the Rams,
Speaker 1: Greedy Williams, and they they had two cornerbacks out again
Speaker 1: today and you cannot tell the way that they shut
Speaker 1: down Lamar Jackson. Outside of some very frisky runs by
Speaker 1: the Ravens quarterback. They did a great job against Baltimore's offense,
Speaker 1: and that Nick Chubb run was something else that I
Speaker 1: have not seen them do this year. Really, you have
Speaker 1: to go back to last season where they kept taking
Speaker 1: hope away from the opponent and Nick Chubb had not,
Speaker 1: you know they I thought they needed to center this
Speaker 1: attack more around him. They found a way to do
Speaker 1: it today. Baker Mayfield was not badgered from wire to
Speaker 1: wire the way he has been in the other three games,
Speaker 1: and you got this result. It is hopeful they've got
Speaker 1: a short week before they play the Niners. But I
Speaker 1: thought that they looked like a different offense that against
Speaker 1: what I thought. The coaches could adjusted, made adjustments and
Speaker 1: got their act together, and it was. It couldn't have
Speaker 1: happened a game sooner. I'm not sure how this believing
Speaker 1: your own hype phenomenon works, but they must have just
Speaker 1: like they just picked this week to stop believing their
Speaker 1: own hype, according to the narrative, And it came on
Speaker 1: a day where Odell Beckham was not a factor at all.
Speaker 1: You know, what are the odds that he gets twenty
Speaker 1: yards on seven targets in a forty burger in Baltimore?
Speaker 1: Big time concern if you're a Ravens fan about the
Speaker 1: state of this defense. I think you know we said
Speaker 1: going into it, this is a Brown's offense that good
Speaker 1: defenses should handle. Right now, I think the Brown's offense
Speaker 1: that showed up today is was probably it was a
Speaker 1: lot about them. But still this Ravens defense when it's
Speaker 1: so early in the season that we it's such a
Speaker 1: small sample size that you see them against the Dolphins
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals and you think, you think one thing,
Speaker 1: But as we're getting more information, they just don't look
Speaker 1: like the Ravens defense were used to see. Well, they
Speaker 1: put all their resources into offense the last two years
Speaker 1: and Lamar Mania, which is you know, running wild in
Speaker 1: weeks one and two. Things have cooled off a little bit,
Speaker 1: it seems in week three and four. What did you
Speaker 1: see from Jackson Mark, Well, they put the clamps on
Speaker 1: him early, and you know that I thought that he
Speaker 1: was going to potentially fry then with Marquis Brown and
Speaker 1: they didn't. That connection did not work today, And to
Speaker 1: me it is it is partially Baltimore, But I have
Speaker 1: to say Cleveland's defense is playing in a way that
Speaker 1: I I just don't remember them playing. And they've been
Speaker 1: good in every game except that opener where they got
Speaker 1: tired out against the Titans. I think you can say
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's a special talent, and he says bright, he
Speaker 1: has a bright future and also point out that the
Speaker 1: only two quality defenses he's faced in his career are
Speaker 1: the Chargers defense that shut him down in the playoffs
Speaker 1: and the Browns defense that shut him down today. Joe
Speaker 1: Schobert has been playing well. I mean, they're just deep.
Speaker 1: The the Browns defense, they're good on every level. How
Speaker 1: about a little Steve Wilkes come up. Didn't expect that
Speaker 1: to happen. Top ten defense this year, and the Browns
Speaker 1: have another prime time game next week against the Niners.
Speaker 1: Would anybody be surprised if that defense steps up again?
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll say that conversation for Thursday. But it
Speaker 1: does feel feel like the possibility that they might have
Speaker 1: turned a corner with this game. I want to see Mayfield,
Speaker 1: you know, do it week after week. I mean, I
Speaker 1: want to see this game closer too. But it sounds
Speaker 1: like he looked he was making decisions, was more comfortable
Speaker 1: than Yeah, it just looked like last year's attack, where
Speaker 1: the first three weeks to me was something completely different
Speaker 1: and uninviting. First first place, Margie, I mean place in
Speaker 1: week four We'll talk to me in week fourteen or
Speaker 1: but first time in first place since when since Actually
Speaker 1: it was a night when they beat the Bengals on
Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football. You got you you, I believe the
Speaker 1: podcast recap dialed Dan and I up at Lost and
Speaker 1: found it was a boozy evening. Let's move on to
Speaker 1: the NFC North one sas depens without Hicks. Evening of
Speaker 1: yard lane under center set from Ah paul Is out
Speaker 1: inside the fifteen yard line, pilot up Bears a taken
Speaker 1: it away first snap of the second half, Hess kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins gets sacked on first down. Huge play Jeff Johnny
Speaker 1: Bears Radio Network with a call Khalil Mac makes big
Speaker 1: place and you heard another one there. Chase Daniel through
Speaker 1: for a d nine yards and a touchdown after Mitch
Speaker 1: Drabski went down with the left shoulder injury on the
Speaker 1: opening possession, and the Bears defense absolutely took it to
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook and Kirk Cousins in a sixteenth to six
Speaker 1: victory over the Vikings. Um this was a home win
Speaker 1: for a win for the home team. The Bears absolutely
Speaker 1: um took it to the Vikings. Mark your thoughts on
Speaker 1: or West this is your game, correct it was? Yes?
Speaker 1: Your thoughts on the effort by the Bears defense, Well,
Speaker 1: I know everybody wants to give their state of the
Speaker 1: Union on Cousins after every Vikings lost. But this ain't it, man,
Speaker 1: This is not The quarterback has nothing to do with
Speaker 1: this game. It is a Bears defense, a front seven
Speaker 1: that absolutely dominated an awful Vikings offensive line and Vikings
Speaker 1: offensive line that is terrible and has been terrible. They
Speaker 1: shut down Dalvin Cook. The Vikings offense had two possessions
Speaker 1: in the first half nine plays in a punt where
Speaker 1: Cousins just barely missed Adam Phelan on this long play
Speaker 1: right here. Now you gotta make that catch too. Who
Speaker 1: knows whose fault that is. But on the next play
Speaker 1: they go twelve plays, next dry they go twelve plays.
Speaker 1: Stefan digs fumbles. Those are only two possessions of the
Speaker 1: first in the first fine in the first half, they
Speaker 1: just didn't have the possession that fumble. I'm blaming on
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. It should be blamed on the quarterback. Clear
Speaker 1: They come out of halftime, first play, blindside strips strip
Speaker 1: sac clear Meck goes right around Riley Rife, the left tackle,
Speaker 1: and it was more of that the rest of the way.
Speaker 1: This is an underman Bears defense playing without ro Kuan
Speaker 1: Smith and a chemicks, two very good starters. They plug
Speaker 1: in Nick Williams and Nick Quickkowski and against this Vikings
Speaker 1: offensive line, those two guys combine for seventeen tackles in
Speaker 1: three sacks, another tackle for loss. These guys were fired
Speaker 1: up and the Bears just absolutely dominated. To me, this
Speaker 1: is more about the Bears defense than it is about
Speaker 1: the Vikings offense. And if you're looking for a scapegoat,
Speaker 1: it's the Vikings offensive line that is just not good.
Speaker 1: And they were the scapegoat through all of last season
Speaker 1: two and they thought they fixed those issues. If you're
Speaker 1: a Bears fan, because Chase Daniel comes in today and
Speaker 1: you know he knows Matt Niggy's offense, been with Matt
Speaker 1: Niggy longer than Mitch Robinsky. How concerned are you about
Speaker 1: Mitch Raisky being out for a while because I thought
Speaker 1: Chase Daniel came in sight unseen and played pretty good game. Well,
Speaker 1: I think history is instructive here, and last year he
Speaker 1: came in, played the game manager role, nurse a lead.
Speaker 1: Eddie Jackson had a pick six to help them win
Speaker 1: a game on Thanksgiving against the Lions, and the next
Speaker 1: week when nobody he's paying attention to the game. He
Speaker 1: goes and gives it to a bad Giants team and
Speaker 1: they lose with his two interceptions. I just think we
Speaker 1: know who Chase Daniel is and he did a great
Speaker 1: job today. His job is to play the game manager,
Speaker 1: let the defense win the game for you, and when
Speaker 1: things are going right, he's capable of doing that. But
Speaker 1: he's just as capable of giving the ball to the
Speaker 1: other team. And you see that he processes faster than
Speaker 1: miss Robinsky, which you would expect from a veteran. His
Speaker 1: ball placement is better than Mitch Drobinsky, who is an
Speaker 1: inaccurate passer. You'll see that the Bears will miss Mitch
Speaker 1: Robinsky's arm strength and athleticism when they play Chase Dames. Well.
Speaker 1: To me, history is instructive, and that history started. June twenty,
Speaker 1: two thousand thirteen went around the NFL editor Greg Rosenthal
Speaker 1: wrote up Chase Daniel, Kansas City Chiefs quarterback as making
Speaker 1: the leap Canada. It's not too late West. He comes
Speaker 1: in and directs force, scoring drives out of the first
Speaker 1: five or six possessions. Let's go, Let's ride. Is there
Speaker 1: an exploration data? No? I think it always and even
Speaker 1: development could make the lead inspired last year against the Giants.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, though, if the story is written
Speaker 1: about his making the leap with the Chiefs, by the
Speaker 1: way to get credit for my favorite part is the
Speaker 1: headline making the leap come on number thirty five. I
Speaker 1: did a top forty countdown that yearly. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's what I mean. I mean, nonsense, Um West, You're
Speaker 1: saying makes so much sense about Daniel. He doesn't need
Speaker 1: to be a star, just like Mitch Robiscuit doesn't need
Speaker 1: to be the star. Kind of get out of the
Speaker 1: way a little bit. Just do what you have to do,
Speaker 1: be a game manager, and this team could be playing
Speaker 1: in the in the first Sunday in February. I think
Speaker 1: this defense is every bit as good as left. It's
Speaker 1: an unbelievable defense. And and that's two things I'm learning.
Speaker 1: We're amazingly a quarter through the regular season. Now for
Speaker 1: the most part, one of the Bears defense is just
Speaker 1: as good, if not better, as than it was last year.
Speaker 1: So look out. And number two, I was I was
Speaker 1: big on the Vikings heading into the season. I'm shook
Speaker 1: now because this game, especially when the other team loses
Speaker 1: their starting quarterback and then you don't even you're not
Speaker 1: really competitive there. They are several steps blowhards the Vikings.
Speaker 1: You know there's a long way to go, but they
Speaker 1: to me, I they've lost my trust in terms of
Speaker 1: as soon as they're put into And it's not just
Speaker 1: a Kirk Cousins thing. I don't love Kirk Cousins either.
Speaker 1: I don't feel like he's gonna suddenly go on some
Speaker 1: hot streak and win nine games and it's fair and
Speaker 1: like I just to me, Minnesota feels like you're ceiling
Speaker 1: is about nine wins and if you ever snuck into
Speaker 1: the playoffs, as soon as your environment becomes unfriendly on
Speaker 1: any level, bye bye. This divisions gotta be tough and
Speaker 1: this is a bad road loss. And the takeaway I
Speaker 1: think though, is that you know, ultimately these teams are
Speaker 1: built similarly. The Vikings have so much money in their defense.
Speaker 1: EVE been building it up for a long time and
Speaker 1: it's it's a good defense, but it's nowhere near as
Speaker 1: good as the Bears, and that's the difference. I agree
Speaker 1: with that. And don't let Mike Zimmer off the hook
Speaker 1: for this one either. He cost his team three points
Speaker 1: by calling a time out when the Bears were set
Speaker 1: up to punt on the Vikings thirty four yard line
Speaker 1: because their kicker has a bad plant leg and can't
Speaker 1: make a fifty one yard field goal. Emer calls the
Speaker 1: time out and Neggi says, all right, you can give
Speaker 1: me time to think about it. We'll just pick up
Speaker 1: the first down they go and get. They gotta pick
Speaker 1: up a first down and kick a shorter field goal.
Speaker 1: I I defer to your knowledge on this West and
Speaker 1: you watch this game closely, Um, I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 1: You're gonna let Cousins totally off the hook though. The
Speaker 1: fact that he's is he is? He just a guy?
Speaker 1: Is that who is? And then if he doesn't have
Speaker 1: the right set up around him, they're doomed because I
Speaker 1: think when they signed him, I think they thought he
Speaker 1: was more than that. I just don't want to litigate
Speaker 1: this after every single game, like are we gonna do
Speaker 1: this after every State of the Union, after every Cousins game.
Speaker 1: He's kind of a fascinated guy for people. From that perspective,
Speaker 1: I get that I'm begging people to watch the game,
Speaker 1: watch the game, and this is all Chicago's defense in
Speaker 1: Minnesota's bad offensive lines and penalties, and the digs play
Speaker 1: was a killer, Like nobody's gonna get on digs for
Speaker 1: that fumble. All I'd say, though, is you look at
Speaker 1: someone like Deshaun Watson, who has been sacked at like
Speaker 1: near historic levels early in his career, and he's someone
Speaker 1: that you know, it's not every week he creates and
Speaker 1: comes up with stuff on his own under duress, and
Speaker 1: I just don't need a better place. Well, I mean
Speaker 1: he had, he had just this band of a game
Speaker 1: his cousin. It's just that you've paid Kirk Cousins free agent.
Speaker 1: It's not every week with the Shawn Watson, but Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousin has been paid the kind of money where he's
Speaker 1: gonna get talked about week to week. Let's uh, Let's
Speaker 1: move on to the highest scoring game of week four.
Speaker 1: Dropping under from the ball, it's loose, it's picked up
Speaker 1: by the Buccaneers to the thirty. That's funny, to the fifteen.
Speaker 1: Dombako suon again. I'm double and willy. Buccaneers are gonna
Speaker 1: beat the Rams the mine six to go fifty four
Speaker 1: big points on the West Coast, a record. Jean Decker
Speaker 1: Fox Radio dock work Shack Mason, Strip, Jared Goff and
Speaker 1: Dominican sus snatched the loose ball Tucket to the house.
Speaker 1: You heard it, the clinching score in a fifty five
Speaker 1: to forty win for the Buccaneers over the Rams at
Speaker 1: the Coliseum. Jared Coff finished with over five on a
Speaker 1: yard passing, but he had four turnovers in the rams
Speaker 1: first loss of the season. The Bucks they got three
Speaker 1: five yards and four touchdowns from Jamis Winston. West is
Speaker 1: gonna have to eat humble pie about that. Wait, then,
Speaker 1: Mariota has just as gonna have a game that's not
Speaker 1: That's not what I'm saying. You've been decided with who
Speaker 1: dismissed Winston's effort last week and indication on how we
Speaker 1: should look at this game. He carried that performance into
Speaker 1: a second lights out performance. He has my attention. I
Speaker 1: also think it's important to be anchored by four years
Speaker 1: of data so you don't flow away once I got
Speaker 1: your data right here. Anyway, Winston Winston had a big
Speaker 1: day career day for Chris Godwin, who has who has
Speaker 1: emerged as one of the best second bananas in the
Speaker 1: NFL behind Mike av Evans and the Bucks head to
Speaker 1: London at two and two? Is that right now? We're
Speaker 1: gonna see the Bucks in the Panthers. And I mean,
Speaker 1: if I just hit that kick this Bucks teams three
Speaker 1: and one, I'm so excited about our trip to London.
Speaker 1: I'm getting ahead of myself. But uh yes, a really
Speaker 1: really important win for the Bucks, who, as we know,
Speaker 1: had their hearts ripped out when the kicker blew the
Speaker 1: chip shot. After Bruce Arians, the coach moved them back
Speaker 1: five yards. They somehow lose a game to the Giants
Speaker 1: at home, and they go to l A and they
Speaker 1: absolutely light up the Rams and do not let do
Speaker 1: not let the numbers fool you. Um. The Rams finished
Speaker 1: with um well over five yards of total offense. But
Speaker 1: Todd Bowls's defense did a good job overall in this game.
Speaker 1: A lot of that was just counting stats at the
Speaker 1: Rams piled up. They made big plays, and the Bucks
Speaker 1: are two and two and gotta be feeling pretty good
Speaker 1: right now, very good in fact, especially because Bruce Arians
Speaker 1: was brought there to bring some the offense to life.
Speaker 1: And now we've seen that two straight. Godwin's a one
Speaker 1: A right now. I mean, his numbers are right there
Speaker 1: with anyone in the league. We've been honking about him
Speaker 1: on this show since the end of his rookie year,
Speaker 1: and there's not many slot guys like him in the
Speaker 1: league that's as good. At one when Arians said this
Speaker 1: is gonna be a one hundred catch receiver and if
Speaker 1: a day like today twelve, he's right now. We said
Speaker 1: after week two and Mark, you have the theory that
Speaker 1: Arians maybe doesn't really be here. But after that those
Speaker 1: first two weeks where the Winston was a messing Week one,
Speaker 1: Week two, they get uh, they have another quiet game offensively,
Speaker 1: but the defense does a nice job. The last two
Speaker 1: weeks they've had almost a thousand yards of total yardage
Speaker 1: on offense um. So there is absolutely potential here for
Speaker 1: this to be a very good offense and who knows
Speaker 1: they could be that this could be a frisky team potential.
Speaker 1: I don't want to get overly pumped up about the
Speaker 1: bus because what West is right about is Winston does
Speaker 1: suck people in a lot, and he will have moments
Speaker 1: like this or even games stretches and then throw three
Speaker 1: interceptions in the first quarter in his next game. That
Speaker 1: could obviously happen, but you can only at this point
Speaker 1: look at where they are right now and the fact
Speaker 1: that Winston is with Bruce arians for the first time,
Speaker 1: and if you're a Bucks fan, look at that with
Speaker 1: hope that maybe he is turning the corner. Well, the
Speaker 1: credit he's the one calling the plays a right. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Bucks to me have been a team that you know,
Speaker 1: coming out of hard knocks a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of optimism. Last year was old.
Speaker 1: They added all these parts on defense, there's more optimism.
Speaker 1: They've never been the sum of their parts, and today
Speaker 1: you're finding out the last couple of weeks that they're
Speaker 1: living up to their potential and you feel completely differently
Speaker 1: about them. Well, even in this game, Winston through a
Speaker 1: killer interception pick six late in the game that let
Speaker 1: the Rams back in it. But then he responded with
Speaker 1: the touchdowns and then your boy Mark Sessler Shack Barrett
Speaker 1: got one of those two sacks that he needs to
Speaker 1: get to ten for the year. You said it's not
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Yeah, Sandwiches, I said, what I because this
Speaker 1: is gonna drift away to to talk about not anchored,
Speaker 1: is that these fast risers on like early season guys
Speaker 1: that have eight sacks and three games that a lot
Speaker 1: of times they end up with like nine, just like
Speaker 1: the biggest play of the week on top of the last.
Speaker 1: I would happily be wrong about him specifically, what I
Speaker 1: was discussing is true as a statistical anomaly in the
Speaker 1: NFL off happening. I don't think this is gonna be
Speaker 1: a fun game to watch the game pass, but it
Speaker 1: might set a record for the longest. The Rams had
Speaker 1: eighty one plays, the Bucks had seventy three. The Rams
Speaker 1: only ran the ball eleven times. They dropped back seventy
Speaker 1: three times. They did what I think a lot of
Speaker 1: teams should do the second they fall down to the
Speaker 1: three scores. Literally, don't run, throw the ball every single time,
Speaker 1: and stretch out that game for as long as you can,
Speaker 1: because who knows, you might get into a situation where
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston throws you a pick six and it's a
Speaker 1: one score game in the fourth quarter. They stretched this
Speaker 1: thing out. Is the longest game I've ever said we
Speaker 1: would predict the game pass length. Let's try this forty
Speaker 1: six this the winner gets sandwiches. How about that? Is
Speaker 1: it the iPad version or the longer version of the
Speaker 1: two I'm going for? Yeah, I think they're going to
Speaker 1: find a way the editors to indulge themselves for no
Speaker 1: one cares that except for us uh week. It was
Speaker 1: not a good game for golf. Todd Gurley we talked
Speaker 1: about on Thursday, is this going to be his coming
Speaker 1: out party? Hasn't had a hundred yard game yet? And yes,
Speaker 1: they threw the ball constantly, but five carries for sixteen yards,
Speaker 1: did score two touchdowns. Um yeah, I mean Goff made
Speaker 1: some pretty throws up that's the thing you're saying. It's
Speaker 1: a bad game, and it was without turnouts, but he
Speaker 1: did throw it for five yds, turning the ball over
Speaker 1: a point. Well, this is the first time the Rams
Speaker 1: have fallen out of first place since Sean McVeigh was high.
Speaker 1: And I don't know who this Rams team is. I
Speaker 1: thought they had an improved defense, and they give up
Speaker 1: fifty five points to the Bucks and they still don't
Speaker 1: have a consistent running game. But here's here's the thing
Speaker 1: we saw it on Thursday night. Defense. You know, improved
Speaker 1: defenses are nice. It doesn't matter in the I mean
Speaker 1: it does matter because you have to win different types
Speaker 1: of games. But they're gonna get blown out there. You're
Speaker 1: gonna give up yards and points some game. It's two
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen, even the Bears. I hate to say it.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to score some points or else that
Speaker 1: team is gonna, you know, get hit and knocked down
Speaker 1: at some point. I mean, good defenses are not as
Speaker 1: good as great offenses. I want to give one final
Speaker 1: shout out before we move on. Matt Gay, who got
Speaker 1: killed by me and a lot of other people after
Speaker 1: blowing the game last week. The place kicker, he drills
Speaker 1: a fifty eight yard or uh in this game, and
Speaker 1: then downstairs, well not only drilling, I mean he smacked
Speaker 1: it up against the net. It just it's a guy
Speaker 1: that stepped up in a big spot. And then after
Speaker 1: that terrible Winston picks six gave the Rams life and
Speaker 1: it was forty five to forty I believe um or
Speaker 1: in that range. Um he hits another field goal that
Speaker 1: essentially gives them the distance they need to win the game.
Speaker 1: So a nice bounce back before and Spike, can you
Speaker 1: believe that you've motivated him during the week with your comments?
Speaker 1: Do you want my honest answer him? Yes, that's what
Speaker 1: I would imagine. You say, Let's move on. I mean,
Speaker 1: you asked me a question. I'm gonna answer down in six.
Speaker 1: It's almost sack, but he keeps his ball. Now he
Speaker 1: throws at the twelve yard line, first down. Panthers. Incredible,
Speaker 1: cherious right from Kyle Allen who went off script and
Speaker 1: played it just right. Mick mixing with that drawl Panther's
Speaker 1: radio network, nice and smooth. Kyle Allen evaded ashore sack
Speaker 1: by J. J. Watt delivered a huge completion the most
Speaker 1: important play in the Panthers thirteen ten win over the
Speaker 1: Texans in Houston. Alan lost three fumbles in the game,
Speaker 1: but the Caroline defense stepped up huge and shutting down
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. Nuke and the Texans offense. West had the
Speaker 1: Panthers do this well. They're defense has fourteen sacks and
Speaker 1: four takeaways in two games since Cam Newton went down
Speaker 1: with it foot injury. They sacked Kyler Murray eight times
Speaker 1: a week ago, and they sacked Deshaun Watson six times today,
Speaker 1: hit him eleven times, hurried him nineteen times. And we
Speaker 1: know that some of that is on the offensive line
Speaker 1: and some of that is on Deshaun Watson's playing style.
Speaker 1: And to Mark's point about Kirk Cousins who it can
Speaker 1: be said that he holds the ball and then probably
Speaker 1: checks down too often. Deshaun Watson holds the ball to
Speaker 1: go for big plays, and today he missed a few
Speaker 1: of them. He had some open and he missed them.
Speaker 1: And he said after the game, look that's on me.
Speaker 1: I held the ball too long and I didn't hit
Speaker 1: the big plays. That's his playing style. He holds the
Speaker 1: ball too long, which contributes to his hits and sacks.
Speaker 1: I think this offense is fixable. They've been under I
Speaker 1: believe thirteen points are under in two the last three weeks.
Speaker 1: Let's get some sink uh. Let's get some rapport between
Speaker 1: Watson and his offensive line on that and his receivers.
Speaker 1: But you have to give the Panther secondary a lot
Speaker 1: of credit to or Kenny Stills injured his hamstring in
Speaker 1: the first quarter and was their leading receiver midway through
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. James Bradberry did a really good job
Speaker 1: on DeAndre Hopkins today and the Panthers defense was lights out.
Speaker 1: Hopkins forty one yards. There's not too many weeks where
Speaker 1: he's not. No matter how the team is faring, he
Speaker 1: always produces, and through an interception a very costly interception
Speaker 1: on a trick play, and Bill O'Brien killed himself for
Speaker 1: the play call After the game, weren't we just discussing
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien and his lead pastor individual outside the building
Speaker 1: as front office executives of the year and them as
Speaker 1: the favorites in the a f C South, which I
Speaker 1: still think they are. But it's a division, you know,
Speaker 1: spoiler alert. Everyone has the same record right now. I
Speaker 1: think they're the most talented, but they're they're not a
Speaker 1: team that's you know, bulletproof, especially when they're playing Lazarus.
Speaker 1: I mean Ron Rivera, we talked about it a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. He rises from the dead. Every time
Speaker 1: you think he's about to lose his job, what do
Speaker 1: they do? They smack around the Cardinals on the road.
Speaker 1: They have defense shows up like that. That's kind of
Speaker 1: what Ron Rivera has been able to do over the years.
Speaker 1: At a certain point, you kind of you just gotta
Speaker 1: figure that's what he does. That's his movie's gonna use
Speaker 1: it well. I think we see their formula now and
Speaker 1: it might be similar to what the Bears have going on.
Speaker 1: They probably trust Kyle aw In a little bit more
Speaker 1: than the Bears trust their quarterbacks because Kyle Allen's played
Speaker 1: pretty well outside of the three strip secks today once
Speaker 1: she lost three fumbles. And that's my biggest concern with
Speaker 1: him is how he deals with pressure. But you can
Speaker 1: see that he's got the touch, he's got the accuracy,
Speaker 1: he makes pretty good decisions, and he's got an m
Speaker 1: VP candidate at running back. Christian McCaffrey thirty seven touches today,
Speaker 1: a D seventy nine yards. He put the team on
Speaker 1: his back. He had also and if you haven't looked
Speaker 1: at the replay, go find this third down catch where
Speaker 1: it's bobbled through the air and it's the one of
Speaker 1: the more acrobatic athletic movements you'll see all season. And
Speaker 1: they're developing an identity. Brian Burns is playing with his
Speaker 1: hair on fire. They have done Terry Poe and Mario Addison,
Speaker 1: Jack Thompson without Kwan short shack. Thompson doesn't leave the
Speaker 1: field now he's replaced Thomas Davis. They got a lot
Speaker 1: of pieces. I understand you're in a tough spot with
Speaker 1: Cam Newton out and Alan who's shown things, but still
Speaker 1: you you really need McCaffrey to be your centerpiece. I'd
Speaker 1: be curious to check out where his touches are through
Speaker 1: four games. They don't want to manage that a little bit.
Speaker 1: You don't want to be doing thirty seven. He's so
Speaker 1: valuable they don't think they can take him off the field.
Speaker 1: And part of that it has to do with the
Speaker 1: fact that they've never really had a great backup behind him.
Speaker 1: All right, Uh, let's go to the a f C
Speaker 1: A West South showdown. That just stays in the gun
Speaker 1: on this first down and ten again intercepted. Gonna be
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Gotta be a touchdown, Eric Harris lot a game,
Speaker 1: it's safety. Well, that's one of the finest places I've
Speaker 1: seen Eric Harris making wide money lots, aren't. Let's go
Speaker 1: to London Boys Bred Glussburger of course, the Icon and
Speaker 1: Lincoln Kennedy with inside therrif k CBS. Rick Carris stepped
Speaker 1: in front of the Uh, Derek Carr passed, excuse me?
Speaker 1: Eric carrs stepped in front of a Jacoby Brissette pass
Speaker 1: and took it earty yards to the house, the clinching
Speaker 1: touchdown in the Raiders over the Colts. The Raiders got
Speaker 1: a huge play there by Harris because it did feel
Speaker 1: like a game that had the potential to slip away
Speaker 1: from Oakland. The Raiders, who had done really nothing on offense.
Speaker 1: In fact, they had two scoring drives in their previous
Speaker 1: eighteen possessions entering this game. They get up fourteen nothing early.
Speaker 1: In fact, they scored three touchdowns in their first four
Speaker 1: possessions the Raiders in this game, but then go cold again.
Speaker 1: Uh so car Derek Carr finished fast ends up throwing
Speaker 1: for less than two hundred yards, and at the point
Speaker 1: when that final interception was made, it seemed like the
Speaker 1: Colts were gonna find a way to win this game,
Speaker 1: but instead the Raiders get it done. And uh I
Speaker 1: just think John Gruden on balanced so far again. We're
Speaker 1: at the quarter pole. I know they said there's no
Speaker 1: such thing as a quarter pole. Well I guess what.
Speaker 1: I don't care what you say. Oh the horse racing fans,
Speaker 1: all three of them, get upset about it at the
Speaker 1: quarter poles. How about you keep your horses alive a
Speaker 1: little better? At the Quarner poll. The Raiders are two
Speaker 1: and two and they are on a absolute marathon road trip.
Speaker 1: It's absurd the way this has been set up and
Speaker 1: John Gruden, love him or hate him, uh, he has
Speaker 1: right to be annoyed. The fact that they're going forty
Speaker 1: two days between home games and how about umb botch
Speaker 1: your stadium situation and not be able to afford sim
Speaker 1: that you have to give up your game and go
Speaker 1: to London. Everything. The guys in the locker room have
Speaker 1: nothing to do, get it, but they still this is
Speaker 1: their second road game. Now they go to London where
Speaker 1: they're the quote unquote home team. Then they have a bye,
Speaker 1: then two more road games. They don't play at home
Speaker 1: again until November three, um against the Lions. I believe.
Speaker 1: So any win you can get during the stretch, if
Speaker 1: you could survive this this brutal uh slate where you're
Speaker 1: just traveling constantly, and you could be in good shape.
Speaker 1: Well maybe when you get back home you could be
Speaker 1: a little frisky to Thanksgiving and and so far. Again,
Speaker 1: the Raiders not not a great team, probably not even
Speaker 1: a good team, but they are showing fight and this
Speaker 1: was a really nice effort on the road against a
Speaker 1: Cults team that we all like a lot. Yeah, and credit,
Speaker 1: I mean we there's all those studies every time the
Speaker 1: Raiders have to travel East and play the early game.
Speaker 1: How they're like one and a billion when they have
Speaker 1: to do that. So credit to them, I will say,
Speaker 1: though they caught the Cults at the right time. You've
Speaker 1: got t Y Hilton out, Darius leonard In, a defensive
Speaker 1: Player of the Year candidate out with a concussion, maliek
Speaker 1: Cooker at safety out, and they lost Marlon Mack for
Speaker 1: a big chunk of this game. They're deep team and
Speaker 1: they're well built, but you get to a point where
Speaker 1: you can't compete. I agree with that, and you you
Speaker 1: could see that, and when you guys check this game out,
Speaker 1: you'll see it too that Brissette really did look a
Speaker 1: little bit lost without t Y Hilton, who was so
Speaker 1: important in this offense. When we saw that when he
Speaker 1: was on the field in the first three games. He
Speaker 1: is Brissets go to guy when it counts, and with
Speaker 1: him on the sideline, and uh, they barely moved the
Speaker 1: ball for the most of this game. They finished with
Speaker 1: three forty six yards, which is not great but not terrible.
Speaker 1: But then just know that more than half of that
Speaker 1: yardage came in the fourth quarter when it was just
Speaker 1: a man scramble to try to get back into the game,
Speaker 1: so Indy kind of had a lost day on offense.
Speaker 1: Um shorthanded a wide receiver. Bunches, of course, is also
Speaker 1: out and Um and the Raiders showed up and balled
Speaker 1: out and the Raiders leading receivers Darren Waller again seven
Speaker 1: for fifty three. West mentioned, you know that Eric Ebron
Speaker 1: might be the next thousand yard tight end or thousand
Speaker 1: drop tight end. No, I don't think it was. I mean,
Speaker 1: not Eric Ebron, Evan Evan Ingram. Yeah, Waller's on pace
Speaker 1: and then something you look he's got, He's got three
Speaker 1: hundred plus yards. He's writing quite a story. I mean,
Speaker 1: he might be a Pro Bowl type of tight en.
Speaker 1: He has really fun to watch. He's come back from
Speaker 1: you know, addiction. He's a guy that John Gordon literally
Speaker 1: signed because he liked the way he looked on the sideline.
Speaker 1: And it's wild then that he's a leading receiver on
Speaker 1: two and two an NFL team ultra rare hard Knocks.
Speaker 1: It's so easy to fall in love with Hard Knocks
Speaker 1: players that are featured on the show. And like Greg said,
Speaker 1: his addiction backstory made him a compelling figure on the show,
Speaker 1: and then he would be killing it in these slow
Speaker 1: motion NFL films practice highlights, and then he steps into
Speaker 1: action is just as good. You never see that in
Speaker 1: hard knocks. It always plays you for a fool, But
Speaker 1: not in this case. Can we talk about a generational
Speaker 1: cheap shot artist, dirty player? Oh my god, Yes, Vonte's perfect,
Speaker 1: absolutely as cheap shot as a cheap shot can be. Uh.
Speaker 1: Goes for Jack Doyle, who is in a very vulnerable
Speaker 1: position after making a catch, goes helmet to helmet, and
Speaker 1: good on on the officiating crew who take a look
Speaker 1: at the play. And in addition to the fifteen yard
Speaker 1: personal foul, say get addie here, Vante's perfect? And at
Speaker 1: what point is the NFL just gonna say get Addie
Speaker 1: here Vante's perfect? Period, I've got a couple of steps
Speaker 1: for you. Okay, let's hear him. Last year, the league
Speaker 1: imposed more than one sixty five thousand dollars in fines
Speaker 1: against perfect are illegal hits. That's just last year alone.
Speaker 1: This is from the Football Zebras Twitter account. There are
Speaker 1: six times in one years of nl NFL history when
Speaker 1: a player was suspended multiple games for an on field infraction.
Speaker 1: Two of those times are Vontes perfect, and I would
Speaker 1: bet it's about to be three of those. If you're
Speaker 1: if you're going to London, you're gonna see Chack the
Speaker 1: game next week, which looks pretty good all things considered.
Speaker 1: Raiders bears at three and one versus two and two,
Speaker 1: and I don't think you're gonna see Mitchell Robinsky. I
Speaker 1: don't think you're gonna see Vont's perfect perfect. I got
Speaker 1: even one of these fines, my bank account, our entire
Speaker 1: family structure would crumble. I can't get a don't stop
Speaker 1: the run. God, it takes shotgun staff. He's back to throw,
Speaker 1: he's under pressure. He throws it off the stuff he
Speaker 1: throw it like pick off five Peppers putting down the
Speaker 1: right fuse t puts down Giants. Peppers hostetures under pressure.
Speaker 1: The throw was laid off the back foot. Pepper spread
Speaker 1: it all the way that your brow pup bixis Bob
Speaker 1: Papa with a call w f A and Jabrill. Pepper's
Speaker 1: first year as a Giant scored on a thirty two
Speaker 1: yard interception return, the knockout blow for the Giants and
Speaker 1: an easy three win over the more of under Washington Redskins.
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is now two and oh as the starter
Speaker 1: Wayne Gallman ran for two scores and plays of se
Speaker 1: Quon Barkley Mark Dwayne Haskins made his debut for the Redskins.
Speaker 1: But there's no stopping the suddenly resurgeon je. Honestly, I
Speaker 1: know they're not a complete team, but the right to
Speaker 1: bring that chant back and do that as much as
Speaker 1: you want because they are fun to watch and I
Speaker 1: know that the the knock is their defense is utterly inept.
Speaker 1: Not today, I realize you're playing a team in the
Speaker 1: Redskins that at this point I would put around Dolphins
Speaker 1: level in terms of unwatchability and uh in terms of
Speaker 1: their on field capabilities, planned lists like you know, they
Speaker 1: couldn't have made it more a parent that Dwayne Haskins
Speaker 1: was not ready for prime time with coach with the
Speaker 1: coaches comments, you know, hammering that to us week after week,
Speaker 1: and you put him on the field today because case
Speaker 1: keenom is is not functioning at all as your starter,
Speaker 1: big surprise. Who saw that coming? And Haskins was absolutely
Speaker 1: victimized and I he he is just he for what
Speaker 1: he does well, he's got a big arm. He's also
Speaker 1: just not he's not seen the field and so you know,
Speaker 1: that was true from the coaching staff. And with Daniel Jones,
Speaker 1: you know, he there were there were some issues in
Speaker 1: this game for him. He had a couple of bad interceptions.
Speaker 1: But what I love was that Patcher made the comment
Speaker 1: after that after he threw the two picks on the sideline,
Speaker 1: it wasn't like a rattled you know, deer and headlights time. Thing,
Speaker 1: totally composed, came back, made some big throws when he's
Speaker 1: on the field. Guys like Sterling Shepard, we've talked about
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram come to life. Wayne Gallman, as you mentioned,
Speaker 1: had a big game, and I thought that they It's
Speaker 1: not that they didn't miss se Quon Barkley because he's
Speaker 1: a super special talent, but it ran for a hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty four yards at four point four yards per carry.
Speaker 1: With Jones in there, everything just functions a little bit differently,
Speaker 1: clean water, fresh stream, not a dirty pond like they
Speaker 1: were with Eli Manning. The Redskins stink, but they also
Speaker 1: won twenty four to three, and they didn't get they did.
Speaker 1: You know, the Redskins have had a couple of quarters
Speaker 1: where they put points up on other teams. They didn't
Speaker 1: against New York today. Right, we give the Bears credit
Speaker 1: for totally shutting down the Redskins. I think it's significant
Speaker 1: that they held the Redskins the hundred and seventies six
Speaker 1: yards and three points. If you're not gonna if you're
Speaker 1: gonna give the Patriots credits for like trouncing the week
Speaker 1: sisters of the NFL, that's what competent defenses can do. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't think the Giants defense is suddenly going to
Speaker 1: be competent, but can they improve? You know, teams change
Speaker 1: a lot during the course of this season. They're gonna
Speaker 1: be totally different December. Can they improve from the thirty
Speaker 1: second best defense in the league to somewhere around twenty
Speaker 1: or twenty three like the rest of the way. Is
Speaker 1: that possible that they can scheme that up and that
Speaker 1: will help them be competitive with a young quarterback? Like
Speaker 1: I think that's possible. And now this is an outlier
Speaker 1: and something it's something to watch. And there two and two, Well,
Speaker 1: it helps when you're not you know, with the Eli
Speaker 1: in there. And it's not just on Eli Manning, it's
Speaker 1: highly but they were three and out operation that had
Speaker 1: it seemingly planned one offensive drive and then they dry
Speaker 1: up the attack the entire rest of the game. That's
Speaker 1: not true. Now Danny Dimes gets golden tape back next
Speaker 1: week too. You know, I just clicked into a New
Speaker 1: York Post story um about Landon Collins. You know, I guess, yeah,
Speaker 1: his first game I forgot and that you know obviously
Speaker 1: didn't work out for him. But what I really want
Speaker 1: to bring up is on the sidebar of the New
Speaker 1: York Post there's a trending now in sports section with
Speaker 1: three headlines, and I just want to read them off
Speaker 1: because they're all compelling. Odell Beckham is choked out in
Speaker 1: Brown's Raven Raven's fight NFL villain at it again with
Speaker 1: ghastly head shot. I assume that's our friend Ron Tess
Speaker 1: perfect and Bill's coach escorts Bill Belichick's son off field
Speaker 1: in sketchy scene. Who is what? It's like a gossip?
Speaker 1: And that was the third one that was the best,
Speaker 1: like website for pro booball the post. Nick Dermott got
Speaker 1: all fired up at not Steve Belichick, but another bellotchick
Speaker 1: and another Patriots stafford who was like watching the Bills
Speaker 1: warm up and they got into some sort of argument.
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott was one of them. No, he was. He
Speaker 1: was in. It was all. It was all on video.
Speaker 1: This was a big story, you know, for the pregame shows.
Speaker 1: And then everyone realized like, okay, it was just he
Speaker 1: shoot them off the field. You don't want to mess
Speaker 1: with McDermott. That's that's a state high school wrestling champ,
Speaker 1: isn't it that he was? He was a wrestler. All right,
Speaker 1: let's move on. He told us that New York Post. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know how to intercepted Clowny? Hello, Mr Clowney touchdowns
Speaker 1: debian Clowney stretched out, reaches arm almost to the ceiling,
Speaker 1: pulled the ball down on a screen pass and took
Speaker 1: it about thirty yards for six. Seattle goes on top
Speaker 1: now by a score of nine. Enough, that's how you
Speaker 1: do a radio broadcast, Steve Rabel Dave Wyman on the
Speaker 1: call Seahawks Radio Network to Dave and Clowney, you look
Speaker 1: like a tight end on his interception return, covering twenty
Speaker 1: seven yards for a tv UH Seattle's first score touchdown
Speaker 1: of the day over the morabund Arizona art right. Michael
Speaker 1: Kendricks finished with two sacks. Chris Carson went over a
Speaker 1: hundred yards for the Seahawks, who are three and one
Speaker 1: with a huge Week five matchup against the Rams looming. Greg,
Speaker 1: What did you take out of this game? That the
Speaker 1: Seahawks are ready to win some games like easily, That
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson doesn't need to do crazy things to be
Speaker 1: an m v P contender through a quarter of the
Speaker 1: season eight point six yards per attempt, doesn't have an
Speaker 1: interception this year, eight touchdowns for him, and that they
Speaker 1: can just kind of have a no drama free game,
Speaker 1: like you never see that out of the Seahawks. They
Speaker 1: were watching the Rams game and on their in their
Speaker 1: locker room, and when and Dominican Sue ran that touchdown
Speaker 1: for back for the Bucks, they erupted. And I like that.
Speaker 1: It's like there's a little bit of a rivalry there.
Speaker 1: That's a Thursday night game this week. The forty niners
Speaker 1: are undefeated. This division is interesting except for the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: It's fun by the way, that who are not interesting.
Speaker 1: It's fun on Seahawks quarter. Do you want to come back?
Speaker 1: You're I never I never put your stuff away. It's
Speaker 1: all your rooms. Just now I'm worrying. I'm watching him.
Speaker 1: It's been fun. It's fun to watch him going in back.
Speaker 1: I guess I kind of wa back it. It's like
Speaker 1: when when they're turning will dis lee into a thing.
Speaker 1: Well this he has almost more catches this year than
Speaker 1: he had his entire college career. He ran like a
Speaker 1: five to forty. He came out of nowhere and here
Speaker 1: he is as they're leading receiver coming off attending right,
Speaker 1: that's right. You gotta use Clowney on offense. The car Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Cardinals are the one team that doesn't excite you,
Speaker 1: and that's not what this was supposed to be. This
Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to be a super Bowl campaign for the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: But the fact that they're not really moving the meter,
Speaker 1: that's not a good Well. They were the unknown and
Speaker 1: what we're knowing about them is not particularly interesting and
Speaker 1: not interesting is not what I expected. I thought it
Speaker 1: would either be an epic disaster or something. The Corners
Speaker 1: shocked the league and it's kind of it's just middle place.
Speaker 1: They haven't won a game, and they got blown out
Speaker 1: twice at home in a row here, so that that's
Speaker 1: a bad sign. David Johnson looked better today. Hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty three yards from scrimmage. I thought he had some
Speaker 1: of his old juice, which was nicely. But here's what
Speaker 1: not on the ground though, what's going on with it?
Speaker 1: He's had they were trailing, you know, that Clowney injury happened.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Clowney touchdown happened. They really went out
Speaker 1: of their way to establish Chris Carson, who had a
Speaker 1: great game hundred forty two yards and it was just
Speaker 1: a nice This was a Sessler Fever dream game, as
Speaker 1: we talked about downstairs. It was quick, it was over
Speaker 1: and under three hours easily. It was a blowout. I mean, cess,
Speaker 1: that's how that's how a pro football game should get. Execution,
Speaker 1: shooting in the back of the head, bang, it's over quickly.
Speaker 1: Their linebackers. I'm really impressed by the Seahawks linebackers. They
Speaker 1: never leave the field. They're the only team in the
Speaker 1: league really that's like that. Michael Carroll said, this is
Speaker 1: the best linebacker quarries hand. I don't doubt if Michael
Speaker 1: Kendricks played awesome today. kJ Wright has played great last week.
Speaker 1: And you're playing a team that plays four receivers every
Speaker 1: snap or many steps, and yet you don't take your
Speaker 1: linebackers off the field like that is tough to pull off.
Speaker 1: But you're when you're right. When you're talking about Kingsbury.
Speaker 1: You know, what we haven't seen out of them is
Speaker 1: like a schematic advantage, you know what I mean? He
Speaker 1: hasn't come in and provided like I think Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: looks quite good. I think he had a fine game today,
Speaker 1: act despite the final score, which seems like we're, oh,
Speaker 1: they're gonna They're gonna revolutionize the game with the past happy.
Speaker 1: It's how every team in the league that isn't completely
Speaker 1: out of it is past happy at historic levels. So
Speaker 1: how different are they than anyone else? At this point?
Speaker 1: Where did uh Kyler Murray's height come in for this
Speaker 1: game two? I mean this was the short guy ball here,
Speaker 1: So shout out to short men everywhere. Stay strong, stay proud,
Speaker 1: you know we love you. He can't look too big
Speaker 1: with without Jenevian Clowney's streaking by him at like six
Speaker 1: ft eight. No, that was kind of a flukey, a
Speaker 1: tough play for him, But it's like the Cardinals have
Speaker 1: no ability to come back. Our friend Jason Somwalts ready
Speaker 1: to call it a season. I think his counting numbers
Speaker 1: don't look that bad, Kyler Murray. But he's dropping back
Speaker 1: as much as anyone and getting first downs less than anyone. Problem.
Speaker 1: Let's move up I formation, single receiver Brown, wide layout
Speaker 1: playfing Mario to fires over the middle. There's Brown at
Speaker 1: the forty, at the thirty, five, at the thirty, at
Speaker 1: the five, at the twenty, at the fifty, at the ten,
Speaker 1: at the five tighten Jay Brown. Yeah, it's fun, my
Speaker 1: Keith with a call. Titans Radio Network Marcus Mariota through
Speaker 1: three touchdown passes and one half. That's gotta be a record.
Speaker 1: Uh to to a J. Brown, including the one you
Speaker 1: just heard. And the Tennessee Tattoos snapped an ugly two
Speaker 1: game losing streak with to tend Road win over the
Speaker 1: stumbling the Moribunda in Atlanta Falcon wes uh. This is all.
Speaker 1: This is all a script for the Tytoons. Just when
Speaker 1: you're ready to write them off, they deliver a complete
Speaker 1: performance to remind you of their potential. But what does
Speaker 1: it mean in the big picture? They have the potential
Speaker 1: to go nine and seven and lose it in the
Speaker 1: first round of the playoffs. I'd be good luck figuring
Speaker 1: this team out. They it was so unusual to see
Speaker 1: a wide receiver making plays for the Titans. And A. J.
Speaker 1: Brown was beating Desmond Trufont today and you see right
Speaker 1: here making plays after the catch runs away, and it
Speaker 1: does remind me a little bit of a young and
Speaker 1: Quan Bold in the way he plays physical. He's very physical.
Speaker 1: He's good after the catch, and you don't see guys
Speaker 1: like Corey Davis, drafted fifth overall doin stuff like this. Now,
Speaker 1: Corey Davis did get a touchdown, but he's not making
Speaker 1: plays at the catch like that. Um. But the the
Speaker 1: receivers won the battle against the Falcon secondary that hasn't
Speaker 1: been very good this year. And the Falcons have fallen
Speaker 1: behind twenty eight to nothing to the Vikings, twenty three
Speaker 1: to the Colts, in two to seven to the Titans
Speaker 1: by halftime. I mean this. This team has been out
Speaker 1: of three or four three of their four games. And
Speaker 1: it's pertinent that the head coach fired his top assistance
Speaker 1: last year, and the owner is paying out more cash
Speaker 1: for his players than any other owner in the year
Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen. I'm bummed out. I'm always the guy
Speaker 1: who's not gonna say their seasons over or anything like that,
Speaker 1: but this this results. Seeing them go down like this
Speaker 1: today got me thinking, I will be bummed out if
Speaker 1: the Falcons era under Dimitroff doesn't get closer, it doesn't
Speaker 1: ever win that super Bowl, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like if I I kind of get it both ways,
Speaker 1: what do you mean your your team is responsible for
Speaker 1: the most destructive loss any team has ever suffered, and
Speaker 1: now you're gonna cry all about there that the Falcons, Well,
Speaker 1: then you should have been. I was like, you're playing
Speaker 1: both sides on this one. I was all about the
Speaker 1: Falcons the year after that. I just liked the whole
Speaker 1: vibe of the organization. And now I'm just surprised that
Speaker 1: there's there's this little fight right now to start. This
Speaker 1: seems like a team that needs a soft reboot, and
Speaker 1: it's too early. It's both too early and too late
Speaker 1: because this season has already started there already in a
Speaker 1: deep hole now at one and three, not too deep.
Speaker 1: But it's not a great situation. But it's more the
Speaker 1: way that they're losing. Uh, and we all have to
Speaker 1: watch this game closer. But I mean it's the way
Speaker 1: is it one of those type you get from it
Speaker 1: other than the Falcons just doing very good? Is that
Speaker 1: what this is? They're just not a very good team. Well, look,
Speaker 1: we can say they are a good team that's playing
Speaker 1: very poorly. I don't think they're very good. And we
Speaker 1: can say we like to mitrof and we like Quinn,
Speaker 1: and we do, but we don't like the product they've
Speaker 1: put on the field since the Super Bowl since Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 1: The next year, I did, the next year, I did,
Speaker 1: but with Sarkasian's lost offense that year, I mean ever
Speaker 1: since Kyle Shanahan's left, What what is this team's identity? Well,
Speaker 1: and Quinn has talked about, you know, his defense, like Seattle,
Speaker 1: is going to be urgent, fast, disruptive and it. Mariota
Speaker 1: looked terrible in the Jaguars game, which feels like two
Speaker 1: years ago, because Jacksonville piled up nine sacks in that
Speaker 1: game and made life about as impossible as you could
Speaker 1: on the quarterback. None for the Falcons Today, Mariotta was
Speaker 1: kept clean on the subject of the Falcons. They did
Speaker 1: to their credit or as an organization and to the
Speaker 1: players and and Dan Quinn. They did recover from that
Speaker 1: absolutely staggeringly terrible Super Bowl loss. Pass away from beating
Speaker 1: the Eagle at the KYL s in l A. When
Speaker 1: they beat a very good Rams team in the wild
Speaker 1: card round. They were, but really, since the moment Julio
Speaker 1: Jones slipped in the end zone in Philadelphia in that
Speaker 1: Division round playoff, it has just been kind of a
Speaker 1: sad slog for the Falcons. And I know they put
Speaker 1: up a lot of good numbers last year offensively, but
Speaker 1: this doesn't. It doesn't feel like this team has juice
Speaker 1: right now. And not sorry, they remind me of the Panthers,
Speaker 1: who it's just a reminder of how impossible it is
Speaker 1: to get back to the super Bowl. And you can
Speaker 1: still be competent, but it's not nearly good enough. I
Speaker 1: think you can watched teams like the Broncos, Bengals, of Vikings,
Speaker 1: and Falcons and get frustrated with all four of them
Speaker 1: for the same reason. The offensive line is blowing things up.
Speaker 1: Quinn's gotta make a new T shirt. Yeah, they did
Speaker 1: this brotherhood one where they're all holding each other this
Speaker 1: last week didn't work. Who the Titans seven next week?
Speaker 1: A lot of T shirts I cannot wait to see.
Speaker 1: I think some of the angry Falcon T shirt now
Speaker 1: let's see the Titans have the Bills. Oh, that's pretty
Speaker 1: good at home, Josh Allen. We'll see if he's playing.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're if your thing is you're looking
Speaker 1: for a back down turn it Bills. Well, not necessarily.
Speaker 1: They could Barkley in Nashville. They could put two or
Speaker 1: three good games together. What they need to do is
Speaker 1: show they could sustain. You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: They're gonna they're gonn real me back in for a game.
Speaker 1: They don't need to stay in that range where they
Speaker 1: can get to nine. That's the goal. That cannot be
Speaker 1: the goal. The goal was supposed to be better than nine,
Speaker 1: but this seems to be their face. Credit to their
Speaker 1: secondary today too, which really controlled the game and held
Speaker 1: Julio Jones down for a while. Titans defense look good today.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean though, Greg Right, I don't
Speaker 1: mean to be uh overly passionate about it, but when
Speaker 1: you talk about how you really feel bad for the Falcons,
Speaker 1: you know, as a Patriots fan, you did this dune
Speaker 1: you created. I didn't anything. I didn't do any remember
Speaker 1: the photo in the box, I mean, the evil you had.
Speaker 1: We'll have to reservice that. It was, well, I don't
Speaker 1: even remember what which Patriots winning Super Bowl? Seattle satisfac alright,
Speaker 1: not evil satisfied Grid. Alright, let's keep moving. A thirty
Speaker 1: three yarder from just inside the left hash the Lambo.
Speaker 1: Here we go, Broke gets it down, Lambo kicks it
Speaker 1: up and field goal is good. Good. The field have
Speaker 1: beaten the Denver Bronco took four mile high stadium. This
Speaker 1: one belongs to do alright, right, Cranty, I like it. John.
Speaker 1: By the way, update breaking news. Mark saw the movie
Speaker 1: Sirens with j Los Sirens. Yeah, it was totally different films. Well,
Speaker 1: I want everyone to know that the scale has been
Speaker 1: balanced out because I just thought it because Josh Lambo.
Speaker 1: Mark told us today that he saw Rambo in the theaters.
Speaker 1: Everything's even Rambo colon Last Blood and I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: By the way, last Blood is the stupidest name of
Speaker 1: the movie ever. I know there was First Blood. It's thematic.
Speaker 1: If you're looking for stupid, it was. But I kind
Speaker 1: of enjoyed the film to be first Blood last Blood.
Speaker 1: If you enjoyed it, I did because I went in
Speaker 1: thinking this is just gonna be ninety minutes of total
Speaker 1: you know, it's like last Blood until they cut off
Speaker 1: you know, stallone Social Security, then we'll go like last
Speaker 1: their blood. I don't think he's coming back from this
Speaker 1: one based on what I saw. But Josh Lambo not
Speaker 1: John Rambo went four for four on the day, including
Speaker 1: that game winner as time expired, lifting the Jacks to
Speaker 1: win over the still winless the moribund Denver broncos Gardner
Speaker 1: Minshew heated up in the fourth quarter after a slow start.
Speaker 1: Leonard four Nette had a career day with two yards
Speaker 1: on the ground on twenty nine carries. Mark Jalen Ramsey
Speaker 1: heroically he was able to summon the energy to come
Speaker 1: out of his home and be on the sidelines of
Speaker 1: this game. For this game, Uh well, he got a
Speaker 1: good show, We got an up close view and another
Speaker 1: exciting Jaguars win. He did. I've mentioned before that his
Speaker 1: focus is a laser focus and he he was zoned
Speaker 1: in on this game watching it from the sideline. Was
Speaker 1: he was he in a hospital bed on the sideline
Speaker 1: or was he able to stick up right? Where is he?
Speaker 1: Bat at? Physically? Seemed uh nimble and I was child
Speaker 1: It's not like they made that up that had a daughter. Man.
Speaker 1: This game, and you know, it makes it look the
Speaker 1: score a little closer than it was, because you'd be
Speaker 1: hard pressed to find a contest where one team was
Speaker 1: as thoroughly dominated for a twenty minute stretch as Denver
Speaker 1: was in this contest. They they flat go through two
Speaker 1: early touchdowns that made you think this is the perfect
Speaker 1: way for Denver to get out of their own three hole,
Speaker 1: and Nick Chubb von Miller came to life. They sack
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew five times today, but before the half, flat
Speaker 1: go through an unforgivable pick that allowed the Jaguars to
Speaker 1: go down kick a field goal, and I believe that
Speaker 1: made it seventeen to six at the half. And then
Speaker 1: from there, Jacksonville came out of the locker room and
Speaker 1: absolutely dominated with a sixteen play touchdown drive. At one
Speaker 1: point in the going heading into the fourth quarter, they
Speaker 1: had held the ball for like thirteen and a half minutes.
Speaker 1: Denver was offense just taken out of the game. They
Speaker 1: weren't even allowed to come onto the field basically. And
Speaker 1: it was Leonard four Nette, the laughing stock of Thursday
Speaker 1: Night Football to thursdays ago, who dominated Denver's tired out defense.
Speaker 1: I think Denver's defense just got winded and exhausted by
Speaker 1: the end of this game, and they this allowed the
Speaker 1: running game. Jacksonville's ground game to absolutely explode late, which
Speaker 1: helped Minshew a lot. But Minshew also, despite getting hassled
Speaker 1: and he was on the run a bunch, showed some
Speaker 1: great movement in the pocket in this game. There's one
Speaker 1: play where he unfurled the completion, but he had to
Speaker 1: change direction in the pocket and climbing out of it
Speaker 1: like five or six times. And I am so impressed
Speaker 1: with he really did. I was so impressed with him because, yes,
Speaker 1: I know he is a nice mustache and all this business,
Speaker 1: and and you know they're milking that for all it's worth,
Speaker 1: and that's fine, but he is a player that gives
Speaker 1: me hope that in the in the a f C South,
Speaker 1: which is a weird division, I'm not counting them out.
Speaker 1: The reverse they when their defense did what it did
Speaker 1: against Tennessee where they're dropping nine sacks, they didn't happen.
Speaker 1: That didn't happen today. But they stepped stepped up around
Speaker 1: their quarterback and produced in a tough place to play.
Speaker 1: I don't care if the Bronchos are owing four or not.
Speaker 1: That's a tough stadium to go into, and they came
Speaker 1: and delivered. It was go watch that third quarter. Total,
Speaker 1: he's been streaky, but when he's gotten hot, he's saved
Speaker 1: their season, basically because they could have been dead in
Speaker 1: the water after their starting quarterback goes out in Week
Speaker 1: one and instead he's a guy that while not a
Speaker 1: perfect quarterback and usually six round picks are not perfect,
Speaker 1: he seems to have a little bit of just he's
Speaker 1: not making mistakes and I think they're doing a good
Speaker 1: job calling plays for him. John d Filippo. He does
Speaker 1: not go down the field very often, but he doesn't
Speaker 1: put them in bad situations, and when they do go
Speaker 1: down the field, it's very effective. In time of possession
Speaker 1: in general is overrated, but when you get when you
Speaker 1: have forty minutes time of possession and it's almost all
Speaker 1: that advantages in the second half, there something happens to
Speaker 1: your defense and they and they went up and down
Speaker 1: the fens of the is the defense This was going
Speaker 1: to be, you know, the defense their game that you've
Speaker 1: waited for from Dick Fonio, and instead what you remember
Speaker 1: is that they absolutely got gashed down the down the stretch.
Speaker 1: Every time I looked up in this game, d J.
Speaker 1: Chark was having a big play taken away by penalty.
Speaker 1: It's been every week. Well it's phenomenal, but but he is.
Speaker 1: His connection with Minshew has been consistent. And forget D. D.
Speaker 1: Westbrook and the rest of him, he's the dude is Minshew.
Speaker 1: And I don't want to undersell his his future and
Speaker 1: he's obviously just starting out in the league. Is he
Speaker 1: potentially that the next generation Ryan's fitz Ryan Fitzpatrick like
Speaker 1: a fun perfect Well, I'm just saying Fitzpatrick is you know,
Speaker 1: thirteen years later or whatever it's been. Is had a
Speaker 1: lot of great moments in his career. Not a champion
Speaker 1: or anything. But I mean, even if that is his ceiling, Uh,
Speaker 1: that would I think the Jaguars would sign up for that,
Speaker 1: considering uh what what what they were entering the season with. Well,
Speaker 1: let's put it this way, He's just created a ten
Speaker 1: year career for himself one way or the other. Right,
Speaker 1: I don't want to undersell his upside because if a
Speaker 1: first round pick k men and played the four games
Speaker 1: that he did, we we'd be you know, writing tea
Speaker 1: poems about him. They used Mark Sessler's phraseology. The Bills
Speaker 1: signed fits Fitzpatrick to that like sixty years, sixty million
Speaker 1: dollar contract at one point, and they only lasted a
Speaker 1: couple of years. But nobody really ever saw him as
Speaker 1: the franchise guy. There's a chance that Minshew could develop
Speaker 1: into well, there is a little tea boat about him,
Speaker 1: especially seeing them win on a game that it didn't
Speaker 1: look like they were gonna win on a field goal
Speaker 1: in Denver. It not the you know, the mania around
Speaker 1: him or whatever, but just that they're finding ways to
Speaker 1: win these these crazy sort of games and it's like
Speaker 1: the close I don't doubt I would say that the
Speaker 1: mania with the looks and the all this other business
Speaker 1: around it is. Actually it does him a disservice because
Speaker 1: you think that that's why everyone is hyper focused on him,
Speaker 1: that's why a bunch of people are But if you
Speaker 1: took all that away and just looked at the way
Speaker 1: he plays, and if he were to your point at
Speaker 1: the draft pedigree had been there, people would be going
Speaker 1: absolutely nuts about who he is. On the fifth Nick
Speaker 1: Foles was playing like Gardner Minshew, people be like, all right,
Speaker 1: the Jags are in great shape. They've got their quarterback
Speaker 1: UM and Mark you you saw the game, so you
Speaker 1: have a better idea of it. You said, the Broncos
Speaker 1: defense looked gassed at the end of the game, So
Speaker 1: I won't. I can't kill them having not watched the game,
Speaker 1: but I will just make a stop. I will point
Speaker 1: out UH Joe Flacco for all his UM ups and
Speaker 1: downs this year. UH takes them down the field late
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter six place, seventy five yards, eight
Speaker 1: yard touchdown pass. It's with ninety two seconds to go.
Speaker 1: And just like the Steelers last week, when you thought
Speaker 1: that their defense would be able to close out a
Speaker 1: game that they desperately needed, you would think that the
Speaker 1: Broncos defense would summon that to be able to get
Speaker 1: out of here with the win. But there I I
Speaker 1: would imagine Broncos fans are very upset about a roughing
Speaker 1: the pastor call on von Miller that sprung Jacksonville for
Speaker 1: that game winning drive. But it was a fair call,
Speaker 1: I think. And then on top of it, they gave
Speaker 1: up a huge chunk run and Minshew made Keith rows
Speaker 1: and that was the whole second half Outside of Miami.
Speaker 1: That might be the most depressing UH season ticket to own.
Speaker 1: Right now, you've seen two games. In both of them
Speaker 1: you've lost that the buzzer on a field goal, and
Speaker 1: both of them your quarterback, who hasn't been that great overall,
Speaker 1: has to go ahead touchdown pass with a minute remaining.
Speaker 1: You still lose. You can't kill Flacco and that he
Speaker 1: becomes lazy to do it week after week. But there
Speaker 1: is something also about him where just I don't know,
Speaker 1: there's a sense of he's not inspirational, not at all.
Speaker 1: Just the guy at this point, right, is that kind
Speaker 1: of what it is? He's just kind of a guy
Speaker 1: down right? Yeah, Man Rivers climbs the pocket, bind Zackler
Speaker 1: left sideline, one man to beat five into the touchdown,
Speaker 1: chargers into the end zone for Austin Ekeler. It was
Speaker 1: a hesitation by the official. He strums the guitar and
Speaker 1: the chargers put six on the board. By the way,
Speaker 1: that receiving touchdown means that he has now posted at
Speaker 1: least three in each of his proceedsons. That is the
Speaker 1: first time an undrafted running back has done it in
Speaker 1: the common draft ERI since nineteen seven. See by the way,
Speaker 1: you don't I owe thought this. You don't need move
Speaker 1: the sticks in that Daniel Jeremiah is the color guy. Well,
Speaker 1: guess what Matt money does a ball he can He'll
Speaker 1: give you the highlight and then he'll give you the
Speaker 1: insight and then and the data. So what, it's totally
Speaker 1: redundant to have moved the sticks paid by the charges.
Speaker 1: Some would move the sticks. Hearing this might argue that
Speaker 1: hit hit what you know, don't don't step on his
Speaker 1: part of the role here, but fair enough, I don't
Speaker 1: like what you're doing there. You're trying to create dissension.
Speaker 1: I think Matt made it very clear. Matt money Smith
Speaker 1: the voice of the Around the NFL podcast, what's going
Speaker 1: on in that? Philip Brother rivers through yards and two touchdowns?
Speaker 1: That was like his moment. He was like, that's what
Speaker 1: I can do. He's like, I'm getting on the eight
Speaker 1: ten podcast Forget you Sticks. He's been Scully Sticks ever
Speaker 1: his voice ever been included in any of these Chargers
Speaker 1: highlights that we've done very briefly, and I've instructed Erica
Speaker 1: to avoid it when possible. Philip rivers through for three
Speaker 1: ten yards and two touchdowns, including that eight seniord hook
Speaker 1: up with Austin Ekeler. Charges Crews win over. Now, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna say it, because they don't even deserve that.
Speaker 1: The miserable Miami Dolphins. Greg The Chargers had rough losses
Speaker 1: in each of the past two weeks. Luckily the scheduled
Speaker 1: gods gifted them Sunday with potentially the worst NFL team
Speaker 1: of all time. Yeah, and and the Dolphins showed in
Speaker 1: this game for the second straight week that they can
Speaker 1: be competitive for a half. And they could have easily
Speaker 1: had the lead after one half of this game, just
Speaker 1: like against Dallas. But but they didn't. And then it's
Speaker 1: like the other team gets down to business. The Miami
Speaker 1: Dolphins has had twenty one drives in the second half
Speaker 1: of games this year. On those twenty one drives, they
Speaker 1: have failed to score a point. I mean, this is
Speaker 1: the NFL we're talking about. It's it's it's outrageous. I
Speaker 1: don't know what more of there is to say. Melvin
Speaker 1: Ingram got hurt in this game. That's a concern. Melvin
Speaker 1: Gordon did not play in this game, so he was active,
Speaker 1: but they an emergency, did not you need to use him.
Speaker 1: And Philip Rivers did what he does, which which is
Speaker 1: an underrated part of his skill set. He improvises really well,
Speaker 1: and you don't think of him as kind of an
Speaker 1: improv guy. But that Austin Ekeler touchdown, for instance, was
Speaker 1: him moving up looking to his fourth read, and he
Speaker 1: just kind of makes something out of nothing on a
Speaker 1: lot of these plays, and that that's all he needed
Speaker 1: to do. The Dolphins point differential of minus one seven
Speaker 1: is the worst three four games of season since at
Speaker 1: least nineteen forty. The previous worst nineteen Redskins minus one two.
Speaker 1: So the Dolphins have blown them out of the water.
Speaker 1: I mean, they are going to set some records, not
Speaker 1: the ones that they were. They're gonna be tweeting out
Speaker 1: for the next and again, Rose like Rosen started out
Speaker 1: the game well six or six two yards and a touchdown.
Speaker 1: They didn't punt or turn the ball over in the
Speaker 1: first half. I mean, their offense played pretty well in
Speaker 1: the first half. And still when you look at this
Speaker 1: Dolphins team, I think maybe the most frustrating thing is
Speaker 1: all the guys that in theory would you would want
Speaker 1: to be core guys are playing terrible. I mean, Charles Harris,
Speaker 1: their defensive end is doing nothing, Kalen Blige is doing nothing.
Speaker 1: Jerome Baker and the cfl Um linebacker that they were
Speaker 1: all excited going into the season. They're not playing well
Speaker 1: like the the young guys who you would want to
Speaker 1: be building around are are some of the most disappointing players.
Speaker 1: And so that's like an extra layer of pain for
Speaker 1: this team that was. That's now a hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: regular season wins for Phil Rivers, the first he ever
Speaker 1: had in Miami. His quote, it has been a long time. Myself,
Speaker 1: I haven't played worth a hoot. They're the last two
Speaker 1: times rough days for us. It was good to win
Speaker 1: it bad. You know, this game was a hoot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Just rolling up on him, I mean,
Speaker 1: he was about perfect today. Sunday Night Football. The seconds
Speaker 1: left on the park is to be the last player
Speaker 1: of the game. Jack Prescott in the gun, three seasons
Speaker 1: to the far side, takes the snap, say spring five.
Speaker 1: Prescott's on is this one. It's not even gonna get
Speaker 1: to the end zone. It has intercepted. Marcus william and
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints take this one from the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys twelve to ten on a phenomenal defensive performance. Oh yes,
Speaker 1: Marcus Williams, there is life after the Minneapolis miracle, Zack
Speaker 1: Street Saints Radio Network with the call an excellent defensive
Speaker 1: effort by New Orleans who get that final stop on
Speaker 1: the Dak Prescott tail Mary closing it out a twelve
Speaker 1: to ten win over the Dallas Cowboys on Sunday Night Football,
Speaker 1: a game in which Teddy Bridgewater again stepping in for
Speaker 1: Drew Brees. The Saints didn't light it up on offense,
Speaker 1: but west when they needed the defense to step up,
Speaker 1: they sure did, and a great Cowboys offense really had
Speaker 1: no answers tonight. We were questioning a few weeks ago
Speaker 1: if they should be going with Taysom Hill instead of
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater, and Teddy hasn't played great, but this team
Speaker 1: is now two and o with upbre in. The two
Speaker 1: teams they've beaten haven't lost anyone else. I think Saints
Speaker 1: fans would have been happy splitting these last two games
Speaker 1: if you told them that a few weeks ago. And
Speaker 1: now they're sitting pretty and you can't say enough about
Speaker 1: their defense, their leadership, their coaches. To to win against
Speaker 1: on the road at Seattle, and then to beat a
Speaker 1: Dallas team that looked gangbusters through three weeks, it is
Speaker 1: to come to come down an earth game for the
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore in this Cowboys offense, I mean any thought that, Okay, hey,
Speaker 1: we haven't really we played three of the worst defenses
Speaker 1: in the league, and now they come out, they put
Speaker 1: up ten points, They put up two d fifty yards.
Speaker 1: This is very similar to the Cowboys Saints game last year,
Speaker 1: which was thirteen to ten. This is twelve to ten.
Speaker 1: Both games had under five hundred yards of total offense.
Speaker 1: Neither of these teams moved the ball. But the Saints
Speaker 1: are loving it because I think the Saints and what
Speaker 1: we saw today with the Bucks game, and we saw
Speaker 1: in Packers Eagles, and we've seen you have to be
Speaker 1: able to win different sorts of games. I think there's
Speaker 1: no you're not gonna win just with defense or just
Speaker 1: with the offense. You've gotta be able to adapt. And
Speaker 1: the Saints have shown that they can win with Chimara
Speaker 1: and a little bit of magic, a little bit of
Speaker 1: situational football. I thought that against Seattle in Seattle last week,
Speaker 1: the Saints control the line of scrimmage with their defense
Speaker 1: early and they made life very tough for Seattle's ground game.
Speaker 1: And then in this it translates again one point nine
Speaker 1: yards per carry for Zekiel who never plot unhooked. And
Speaker 1: the Saints teams of olds that we covered for years.
Speaker 1: If you said New Orleans is gonna score twelve points
Speaker 1: of Teddy Bridgewater, no way do they win those games.
Speaker 1: They're a much more balanced team. They're well built in
Speaker 1: any victory with Teddy Bridgewater at quarterback, it's a coude
Speaker 1: at this point to go to and Oh on this
Speaker 1: journey so far, they're gonna run away with this division
Speaker 1: if they keep like we said. Teddy was up and
Speaker 1: down in this game, and his worst moment UH came
Speaker 1: in his final possession, his last snap. They are in
Speaker 1: field goal range up two points UH, and he gets
Speaker 1: overwhelmed by a strong uh Dallas pass rush, loses about
Speaker 1: fourteen yards on a sack. Instead of having Will Lutts,
Speaker 1: who's almost automatic, attempting to put you up five, you
Speaker 1: have to punt it away and the Cowboys take over
Speaker 1: fairly deep in their own end. However, in addition to
Speaker 1: the failure to get into field goal range, as you
Speaker 1: heard the interception there that sealed the game. Tyrone Smith,
Speaker 1: the star left tackle for the Cowboys, Jerry Jones said
Speaker 1: after the game has a high ankle sprain, and we
Speaker 1: talked about high uncle springs a terrible injury because you
Speaker 1: never know how how much time it could cost you.
Speaker 1: But they tend to linger. It's the same type of
Speaker 1: injury that se Quon Barkley has. Well. Now, uh, the
Speaker 1: blindside protector of the vaunted Dallas offensive line could be
Speaker 1: on the shelf for some time. We'll have to see
Speaker 1: how that plays out. That's that is a massive lot.
Speaker 1: I mean, that was a terrible moment for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: and they play against the Darius Smith and Preston Smith
Speaker 1: in that Green Bay Packers defense next week. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's so that's why we like the NFL. It flips
Speaker 1: pretty quickly that the Cowboys suddenly okay, they've they've got
Speaker 1: some issues to work out, the Saints of feeling good.
Speaker 1: I liked what Daniel Jeremiah I know, um, you know
Speaker 1: you've taken some shots at him Dan on this episode.
Speaker 1: I liked what he tweeted earlier today, which was essentially,
Speaker 1: don't put much stock into the previous month. What's happened
Speaker 1: the preseason sort of over that most of these teams
Speaker 1: and the players have knocked the rust off. You've kind
Speaker 1: of put out the tape, the tape into the ether,
Speaker 1: like Kellen Moore that now other teams have a feel
Speaker 1: of Okay, what's this team doing this year? And moving
Speaker 1: forward you kind of this is where we start learning
Speaker 1: about teams. I think there's a lot to that. You
Speaker 1: don't like to think that the last month was meaningless,
Speaker 1: but there's some of that that the teams are going
Speaker 1: to be so different. And that's why, especially for the
Speaker 1: Saints team that doesn't have breeze, it doesn't matter how
Speaker 1: you're winning these games, just stacking up wins. His math
Speaker 1: be as ugly as you need to be get to win,
Speaker 1: and like at just the fact that that division is
Speaker 1: crumbling around them to some degree. To the Bucks next
Speaker 1: week that Teddy Teddy said to Michelle Tafoya after the game,
Speaker 1: no one said it had to be pretty. It was not.
Speaker 1: But the Saints are feeling good right now and as
Speaker 1: we hit the quarter pole of the season, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk more about it this week on the Around
Speaker 1: the NFL podcast, which is the show we're doing right now.
Speaker 1: I don't know I'm saying it like I'm talking about
Speaker 1: a different show. This is the round. The NFL is
Speaker 1: so wide open after this preseason part two. Once you
Speaker 1: get past the only two undefeated team, well there's three,
Speaker 1: including the Niners, but the Patriots in chiefs. It's really
Speaker 1: hard to figure out who's the true power players. But
Speaker 1: a Saints performance like this with Drew Brees getting closer,
Speaker 1: you feel confident having them obviously in that conversation, and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys as well, winner lose today, uh, you feel
Speaker 1: good that these are two the best teams in the league. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: I think when you look at the league as a whole,
Speaker 1: is there even a third good team in the a
Speaker 1: f C. That's a question I would have. Well, I
Speaker 1: also want to see the Cowboys like perform against other
Speaker 1: competent defenses in the roster. Is we know this this
Speaker 1: is a playoff caliber team. I don't think one loss
Speaker 1: at New Orleans changes, but I want to see their
Speaker 1: offense against more quality defense, just absolutely to see what
Speaker 1: they do. And I wouldn't worry about records at this
Speaker 1: point at all, because I take a Philadelphia Eagles team
Speaker 1: over other teams with better records right now because they've
Speaker 1: played through a lot of ups and downs and they
Speaker 1: what they did in Green Bay was huge. Okay, program
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