1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast eats meat and lots of it. 2 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. 3 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hanss. I'm joined in a room 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rosehal 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: what is up? Boys? And eat that meat? Mark, Cela, 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: come on back. We're waiting, Hey, Dan, I mean, the 7 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: money tags are becoming more bizarre by the week, but 8 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: we do it also factually, and I'm all back. Dan 9 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 1: had some Korean barbecue this weekend. I mean we love 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: the meat. Yeah, you were not included in that, but 11 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: the three of the rest of us make up for you. 12 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: Not only did I have Korean barbecue, I mean what 13 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: a family affair. This podcast is Korean food in Korea town. Uh, 14 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: chosen by Greg. I see Greg tell us tell us 15 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: my wife and I where to go? Went to this 16 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: place that he liked. We need somebody to watch your kids. 17 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: Chris Westling, Uncle West and aunt Lakisha watch the boys, 18 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: good boys and um and now we're all together here 19 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: in the studio. And Mark, you were around, Yeah, I don't. 20 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: I didn't play any any serviceable role. Mark, keep getting 21 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: left out of these things. I mean I feel like 22 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: you would be happy to be left out of that, 23 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: you know, child, and I'm already involved with picking out 24 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: meat restaurants. Is not something you would go to. Um, 25 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: this is the Week four Sunday recap show, our flagship show. UH, 26 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: so we're gonna go through all of the games that 27 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: were played on Sunday one by one, as we do 28 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: every week. Uh. It's also streaming on video, so we 29 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: get we have everything coming to you guys, great content. 30 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: And it was a week greg where if you went 31 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: to an NFL game, UH, and you wanted to root 32 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: for your favorite team, there's a good chance you went 33 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: home disappointed. Home teams two and eleven this week four, 34 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: entering Sunday night, we don't know at this time, we 35 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna happen uh in New Orleans. But 36 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: two and eleven the home teams went. That's outrageous. I'm 37 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: taking a stand that as outrageous. Although I do think 38 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: home and field advantage it's a little overrated. Yeah, we 39 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: always we make a big deal out of it all 40 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: this week it was well, I don't think it's overrated 41 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: as it it's just like it's just like a yeah, 42 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: it's just sort of like an extra little thing, but 43 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: you know, you make a big deal about it. Come on, 44 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: come come down in September. All right, Okay, that's an 45 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: interesting I thoroughly disagree, but I but I hear what 46 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: you're saying. So we're gonna go through all these games, 47 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: many of them. As I just said, we'll feature teams 48 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: on the road that's stepped up in a big way. 49 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: And why don't we start in the game. Everybody was 50 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: excited about Western New York. The Buffalo Bills three and oh, 51 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: feeling themselves welcome to New England, Patriots the town. Would 52 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: the Bills make a huge statement or would the Patriots 53 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: do Patriot things? And a third and ten staff Parking 54 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: drops back. There's probabi second Jenny Collins ut side first 55 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: out of bounds, but the interception was forest like Kyle 56 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: van Noy who hit Barkley with the deflection to Collins 57 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: with one seven to go. Here on the fourth, Bob 58 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: soci with the call, do we have Scott's lock on 59 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: suspension on this show after his absurd, ridiculous Antonio Brown 60 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: cheerleading in week one? Is that what we're doing? Ricky, Alright, 61 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 1: don't worry about it. Reggy ke Good talking about Patriots 62 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: Radio network with the call yes. Jamie Collins comes down 63 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: with the loose ball off the hit from Kyle van 64 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: Noy on the past attempt from Matt Barkley to play 65 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: ceiling a Patriot sixteen to ten win over the Bills 66 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: in Orchard Park. The Bills made this a game after 67 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: a very slow start, but there would be no magic 68 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: when Barkley replaced an injured Josh Allen greg who bravely 69 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: locked up the Patriots in this guy That's God. Didn't 70 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: see a lot of offense on displaying buff No. You asked, 71 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: you know going into this game. Did the Bills make 72 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: a statement or did the Patriots two Patriot things? I 73 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: guess it's both. Because the Bills made a statement. They 74 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: made Tom Brady look worse than he has in in 75 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: a long time. This was his lowest passer rating since 76 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: two thousand six in a game. It's the most passes 77 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: he's ever thrown in a game without getting to two yards. 78 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: Didn't even get close. He had one fifty. He was 79 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: under completion. They had seven drives where they went three 80 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: and out. They had only a couple more where they 81 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: got one first down, They did nothing offensively, and late 82 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: in the game, they were inside the five yard line 83 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: with a chance to go up two scores, and they 84 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: smartly kicked a field goal. And I thought that was 85 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick saying, this Bill's defense is too good for us. 86 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: We need to just go up six points. That's the 87 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: kind of defense Buffalo played. But they get a special 88 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: team's touchdown, they knock out Josh Allen in the fourth quarter, 89 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: and they do a lot of things defensively on their 90 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: own to get the West shopped me in my tracks. 91 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: The decision fourth and goal to not go for it, 92 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,239 Speaker 1: because it feels like a Patriots thing that they would 93 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: go for it, and since the moment, but you're right, 94 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: they had that much faith in their defense, which they should. 95 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: New England's defense is incredible, and the Bills just weren't 96 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: moving the ball. I mean, you locked up New England. 97 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: But if someone had told me that you would have 98 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: held Tom Brady to three point eight yards per attempt, 99 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: if you would have given up only sixteen points to 100 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: this offense, and if Frank or would have run for 101 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: a hundred and nine yards at six point four yards 102 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: per carry, I would have locked up the Bills. I 103 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: would have thought they're going to find a way to 104 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: They're not an explosive offense, but find a way to 105 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: get seventeen points. And I mean the difference was the 106 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: punt return touchdown, the Patriots score. The Patriots offense only 107 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: scored ten, Bills offense scored ten, and the Patriots defense 108 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: was very lucky to hold the Bills to only ten 109 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: because the Bills did do a better job, especially in 110 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: the second half, moving up and down the field. But 111 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: the situational defense that the Patriots have, especially in the 112 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: red zone with Jamie Collins and Kyle van Noy and 113 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: everything that they can do was really special. Today. You're 114 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: tipping your tap, you're tipping your cap to a good 115 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: Bills defense and a well coached team. But how much 116 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: of this doesn't raise any red flags for you on 117 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: the Patriots offense. It's a long season. I said going 118 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: into this game. I didn't think their offense was nearly 119 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: up to speed. Their offensive line got pushed around. I 120 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: think this Bill's defense had a great plan for them. 121 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, they have to be it. They're gonna 122 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: be a different team in December one way or another. 123 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: Whether they're better or worse. They're gonna be totally different. 124 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: The fact that they were able to sneak out a 125 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: win was nice. The peace scale was high, though, Uh, 126 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,119 Speaker 1: you know, you haven't asked me that in a while, 127 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: and I just felt like they were not the better 128 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: team in this game, and so my peace scale was 129 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: And I won't be asking you on Thursday's preview show 130 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: when they are preparing for the Washington Redskins either. UM, 131 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: my schedule for the path so far, feel free to 132 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,799 Speaker 1: lock that came up. By the way, Greg, there's no rules. 133 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: I might lock it up because I'm owing four in 134 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: the locks. We'll get to that on Thursday. John Brown 135 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: biggest individual play of the game. UH takes the pass 136 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: from Matt Barkley. UM this late in the fourth quarter. 137 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: UH gets stopped at the one jo wanted by Stephan Gilmour, 138 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: who makes an incredible tackle, And that was the closest 139 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: that the Bills came. They gave very close to time 140 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: this game, and multiple times misses a field goal, a 141 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: very makeable field goal at the end of the first half, which, uh, 142 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: you know, obviously every point counts in a low scoring 143 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: game like this. The Patriots knocked out Josh Allen and 144 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: what you know, I think is controversial call up. I 145 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: don't think it was a dirt I mean a controversial hit. 146 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: They called the penalty on the Patriots. It was a 147 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: play where they were trying. It was a desperate situation. 148 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: They're trying to stop him from getting a first down. 149 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: He was picking up about six yards and and I 150 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: think who wasn't it was j C. Jackson just knocked 151 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: him right in the helmet, like cold in his tracks. 152 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: They they flagged him. I didn't think it was anything 153 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: dirty necessarily about it, but it changes the game. Barkley 154 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: came in there, had better decisions, moved the ball actually 155 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: a little better than Josh Allen did, but they were 156 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: multiple throws where he just didn't have the car to complete. 157 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting. The Bills tweeted out a 158 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: video of Micah Hyde, Buffalo defender defender, saying that but 159 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: Brady would have if someone hit Brady that way, they 160 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: would have been ejected. There might be some controversial thing 161 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: for a team to tweet out. There might be something 162 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: to that because in in that play, Josh Allen has 163 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: kind of has his head down and his running I 164 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: would I just assumed he was getting that first down 165 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: before he got knocked over, and you're treating him like 166 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: a running back. And that's that's what happened. And this 167 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: shouldn't be lost in the in the mix either with 168 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 1: Allen because he does go out with a head injury 169 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: and hopefully it's okay and not something that keeps him 170 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: in the sidelines. Did not play a good game, Greg, 171 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: maybe you could shine a little more light on but 172 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: just from what I saw, and when you look at 173 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: his numbers, three interceptions, um, they only scored uh what 174 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: ten points when he was on the field, and in general. 175 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: We talked about this leading into the game. This was 176 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 1: a big like spotlight check on Allen and he did 177 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: not exactly straight. He hasn't in the first three weeks either. 178 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: I mean, he started out the game totally abysmal, one 179 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: for eight with two fumbles and two interceptions and ten 180 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: yards in the first quarter. He's not accurate. They came 181 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: out after halftime. I think Brian Dable, who's their former 182 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: Patriots coordinator, did a smart thing. Starting in them in tempo. 183 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: They did a hurry up. They had a great touchdown drive. 184 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: That was the only time they look good all your 185 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: old game don't know why they didn't go back to that, 186 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,599 Speaker 1: but three interceptions and a couple of fumbles, one that 187 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: got overturned my penalty. No, he he hasn't looked that 188 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: much better. I can't think of a quarterback in the 189 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: league where I would love to know what team brass 190 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: truly think about him behind the scenes, because there's a 191 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 1: lot to like about I think there's a lot to 192 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: a lot to him that's positive. But the turnovers are 193 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: You cannot advance in the NFL with that kind of 194 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: an issue. This is this isn't a veteran defense. It 195 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: really hit me today how old the key guys are. 196 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: It's not a young defense. I mean, Devin mccordy's playing 197 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: as well as he ever did. Jamie Collins is wearing 198 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: the captain's green doting right now. That's where Jamie Collins 199 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: is played every single sex snaps seventy nine snaps today. 200 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: Not gone is gone, and he was better than Tower 201 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 1: could have been. You know what it isn't on It's 202 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: a total testament to New England because when he went 203 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: to Cleveland and they paid him a ton of money 204 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: and they were not a good team obviously on any level, 205 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: but he was accused by fans and onlookers and tape 206 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: watchers of being a guy that was taking plays off 207 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: in series at a time off and you got the 208 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: worst version of me goes to New England. They totally 209 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 1: flipped the switch on the dude. Well, if you remember 210 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: the reason why the Patriots traded him, and the first 211 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: place was the reports that he was freelancing on defense, 212 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: it was just doing whatever he wanted to do. But 213 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: it's similar to Kyle van Noy. I mean, who is 214 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: he in Detroit right now? He is the best player 215 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: in the Patriots front seven and he had a big 216 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: He's a defensive player. Of that your candidate. If he 217 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: keeps playing like this, by the way, that would be amazing. 218 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: Before we move on, I want to point one thing out. 219 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: We've been joking about it the last couple of weeks. 220 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: The tired um insight that the way to get to 221 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: Tom Brady is to, you know, you get pushed that middle, 222 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: win the battle in the trenches, get pressure in his face. Well, 223 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: there is a Patriots version of that as well that 224 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: you hear every game. Anybody want to take a crack 225 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: out out because they the Bills did a good job 226 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: of that, they moved him off his spot. They said 227 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: that about ten times. And the Patriots version of the 228 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: tired cliche and Alice is Bill Belichick. This is what 229 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: he does. He takes away the one thing you do best, 230 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: takes away that one thing. I don't even know what 231 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: that means, takes the thing that you do best, and 232 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: then now try to beat us, unlike other coaches attempting that. 233 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: Thurman Thomas thirty five years ago or whatever, takes it away, 234 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: takes it away. We can take and get tucked in 235 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: there off the right hip hand off, Darrell Williams trying 236 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: to dive Die tucks down Jans sitting. Darrell Williams gets 237 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: barely into the end zone, but twenty seconds left in 238 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: the game to put the Chiefs up thirty three. Mitch 239 00:11:54,840 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: Halt Chief's radio network with a call yes, Daryl Williams 240 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: takes it in for one yard. Owt Patrick Mahomes converted 241 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: a fourth down with a run of fifteen yards to 242 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: extend that game winning drive, and the Chiefs survived after 243 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: a hell Mary that closed that a win over the 244 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions at Ford Field in a game that uh listen, 245 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: they don't hand out medals and their own hand out lollipops. 246 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: UH two teams for losing, But the Lions deserve credit 247 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: here for really playing the Chiefs wired to wire and 248 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: they played really well in this game. They played well 249 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: on offense. Matthew Stafford UH played again good football. UM 250 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: carry On Johnson had a hundred and twenty five yards 251 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: and the Lions rang up about a buck on the ground. UH. 252 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: Their defense, specifically UH their secondary avoided giving up big plays, 253 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 1: which of course is what the Chiefs do, and the 254 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: front four of the Lions consider instantly got Mahomes uncomfortable 255 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 1: and gave him I wouldn't say happy feet, but caused 256 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: him to just throw him a little bit out of sync. 257 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: Like when you watch this game again, especially in the 258 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: first two quarters, I'd say there will be three or 259 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: four plays that the Chiefs hit with regularity that go 260 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: for fifty yards or eighty yards or seventy five yards, 261 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: and he just Mahomes just kept missing them. So and 262 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a credit to the Lions for 263 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: their effort, but it's also a reminder that in a 264 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 1: game where Patrick Mahomes does not throw out touchdown pass, 265 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: which has only happened four times in his career, and 266 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: he had fourteen straight games that streak ended where he 267 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: had at least two touchdown passes. Well, he doesn't need 268 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 1: to fill up the box score to leave this offense. 269 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: They they still put up thirty four points. He still 270 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: went over three hundred yards, and when it mattered most, 271 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: when they're down three points, he takes over at their 272 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: twenty one yard line and goes seventy nine yards on 273 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 1: thirteen plays, uh for the clinching touchdown. So uh, the 274 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: Chief showed me a little did a little backbone in 275 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: a game that could have easily gotten away from him 276 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: and they would have survived if they would have lost 277 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: and moved on, but they decided to find a way 278 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: to close it out. And the Lions they deserve some respect. 279 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: They didn't win, and I still don't think the Lions 280 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: are any powerhouse West in the NFC, but I absolutely 281 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: think they showed us today that when they're having a 282 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: good day, they could play with anybody. I started developing 283 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: some feelings for the Lions last week against the Eagles. 284 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm falling in love with them, but 285 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: there are some feelings there where this team is frisky. 286 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: They seemed to be well coached, whereas last year the 287 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: whole narrative was that there might be almost a rebellion 288 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: going on because nobody liked Matt Patricia. But they seemed 289 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: to be well coached, they seemed to play together well, 290 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: and like I said Thursday, they have good starters. I 291 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: just if they have an injury or two on offense, 292 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: I think they're cooked. It's uh. I mean, it seems 293 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: like it was a game of what ifs, though, because 294 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: they had four possessions inside Kansas City's eight yard line 295 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: and came away with ten points. There were three chiefs 296 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: fumbles at one turn of the point of the game 297 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: where Detroit came away with no points off of that. 298 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: But I couldn't agree more. And and you know, watching 299 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: this out of the corner of my eye, the crowd 300 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: was super into this. I didn't We've I've panned Lions fandom, 301 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: I panned the home stadium, I panned everything to do 302 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: with Detroit for a long time. I'm with you, this 303 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: feels like a different operation. And it's not that surprising 304 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: if you're Matt Patricia that there was a rebellion. If 305 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna bring in a Belichick like culture change. Most 306 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: teams are gonna bounce on that in year one, and 307 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: they got rid of some of those guys that didn't fit. 308 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: So the big uh you mentioned issues in the red 309 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: zone the biggest turn of this game. It was a 310 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: fourteen point swing. So Walter Anderson is the official, the 311 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: lead official official of this crew that put in this game. 312 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: It's the same Walter Anderson crew that blew the whistle 313 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: in Week two on Rams Saints, costing the Saints a 314 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: long time having a good year. I mean while Anderson 315 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: has been NFL official almost longer than Erica our our producer, 316 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: has been alive, and I mean like the lead official. 317 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: That's how he's definitely been an official for a lot 318 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: that Walt, I'm sure I got called to the carpet 319 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: after that game at the Superdome where they prematurely blew 320 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: that play dead. Who knows how that game turns out, 321 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: if that touchdown stands for the Saints. Well, this was 322 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: this showed some growth or perhaps um the ability to 323 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: know that your job could be on the line if 324 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: you don't straight now. Because he does not blow the 325 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: whistle on a carry On Johnson play near the goal 326 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: line where he reaches out about six inches shy the 327 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: goal line, it gets knocked out of his hands. Uh, 328 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: and Bush Brelan to his credit, Uh, He's just jumps 329 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: in out of nowhere, scoops it up, starts jogging in 330 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: the other direction. No whistles blown, no one is playing 331 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: the ball, and he just jogs into the end zone. 332 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: It's ruled a touchdown on the field, and then it 333 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: stands on a review, so it goes from it was 334 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: thirteen thirteen, what could have been a Lions lead was 335 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: all of a sudden Chiefs lead. And again to Detroit's credit, 336 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: that was an absolutely crushing uh set act at that point. Greg, 337 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: I believe you heard me say this game is over 338 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: at that point because you just assumed that the Detroit 339 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: lines would crumble after that. To their credit, they kept 340 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 1: on coming back. In fact, they took three leads in 341 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: the second half, but Mahomes and the Chiefs kept coming 342 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: and Uh, they deserve credit for that. Stafford banged up 343 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: in this. I thought, I I didn't see anything. Um, 344 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: maybe there was something of a hip issue. I'm not 345 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: sure I would have to hit. Yeah, he was playing 346 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: through it, but he played great and he's I think 347 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: he's been very good for them, uh the season. On balance, 348 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: it shows that the Chiefs are playing a different game 349 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 1: than everyone else. Though, when you're when you're without Tyreek 350 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: Hill and did other defense does all these good things 351 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: to you and Mahomes doesn't throw a touchdown and you 352 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 1: still wind up with four and thirty eight yards completely 353 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: just like that's like the base line. Yeah, and and 354 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: I kind of did hit on it a little bit. 355 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 1: But in that touchdown drive, the thirteen play, seventy nine 356 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 1: yard drive that led to the game, when we scored, 357 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: the Detroit lines have the Chiefs at fourth and eight. Uh. 358 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: In the Chiefs are in their own side of the 359 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: field and they have to play well covered. When Mahomes 360 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: drops back to past and Mahomes takes off for fifteen yards, 361 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: keeps the drive alive. Yeah, I think this is this 362 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 1: shows that this is a bad Mahomes game. You know, 363 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: we see bad Cousins games are bad Trabiskie games are 364 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: bad Flacco games. In a bad Mahomes game, they score 365 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: thirty four points. He rushes for fifty four yards and 366 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: has an higher ESPN qb R than Matthew Stafford, who 367 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: threw for three touchdowns and played almost flawless, and at 368 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: the end of the game, when when with the game 369 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: on the line and him set up to march for 370 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: a potential game winning score, I had no internal doubts 371 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: that he was going to get it done. And I know, 372 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: I know it's early, but I'm sure I wasn't the 373 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: only Patriots fan and maybe Ryan Bartlett are our producer 374 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: as a Chiefs fan was tracking the Patriots. I was, 375 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: you know, seeing this and thinking, we're down to the 376 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: last two undefeated teams in the a f C. These 377 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 1: were the best two teams last year. They kind of 378 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: looked like the best two teams so far. Like the 379 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: race every lost between these two teams. I think it's 380 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: important and so I think in well, it's clinched now 381 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 1: for the Patriots. Why is that Because the Chiefs can 382 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: only win fifteen, the Patriots will win sixth. I don't 383 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: think that's gonna happen. So that that's over. I'm just 384 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: saying each each one of the they're not gonna be 385 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: able to afford many glasses. Yeah, that's true. All right, 386 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: Let's check in on the a f C North Hey 387 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: Field with Chupp behind a tall suite beer side. Here 388 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: comes Chop with a cutback. He's up to the fort. 389 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: Here he goes to the fifty, hare goes jump. He's 390 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 1: gonna go twenty fiftime touchdown job, He's got a hat trick. 391 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: Whoa eighty eight yards fight Chub Jim Donovan with the 392 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: call Brown's Radio Network. If you're sensing in Mark Sesler's 393 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,479 Speaker 1: voice a little extras, you know, pep to it and 394 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: if you look at it the way he's walking around 395 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: NFL network, Pep's a little time to his step filing happy. 396 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: He's a happy man, and there is a direct correlation 397 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: everybody the Browns win. Mark's happy, so we need the 398 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: Browns to keep winning, just like today eight yards Nick Chubb, 399 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: It's well, you told our entire British audience that without 400 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: where we had not spent more than eight seconds together 401 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 1: all day. But that's fine next to each other. What 402 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: are you talking about? There was a there was a 403 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: difference to Mark Sessler today and it's because of those Browns. 404 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: Eighty eight yard touchdown round by Nick Chubb uh an 405 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: important and impressive for for the Browns over the division 406 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 1: rival ravens Mark out of nowhere. The Browns two and 407 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: two share first place in the a f C North. 408 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: They're okay, they're okay. It's maybe better than okay. It's 409 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: how they won today, how they performed from wire to 410 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,239 Speaker 1: wire on both sides of the ball. That has me 411 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: and I was thinking about this downstairs. This is the 412 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: biggest Browns win in ten fifteen years. There was a 413 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: year they were ten and six that they didn't make 414 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Here's why I think that's the case, because 415 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: we are two or three days removed from most people 416 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: thinking that Freddie Kitchens is someone who's in totally over 417 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: his head, that Baker Mayfield talks more than he performs 418 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: in year two as a quarterback, that the offense, which 419 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: came in with so much hope, looked completely broken, and 420 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: there the words coming out of Cleveland from the coaching 421 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: staff did not sound like we plan to adjust. We 422 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: just planned to keep doing what we're doing. And there 423 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: was legit concern about where this team was going and 424 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: what the reaction would be for me three or four 425 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: weeks from now if they started one in five or 426 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: you know, one in five, you go into your by 427 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: then you play the Patriots season over. This is your 428 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: most natural rival outside of Pittsburgh, the Baltimore Ravens. They 429 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: were they came from your own belly if you're a 430 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: Browns fan. They were pulled out of the Browns failure 431 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: when they moved. It's a disaster. And they've been dominated 432 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: by Baltimore for so long, and I thought this was 433 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: the kind of Ravens team that might be the worst 434 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: type of team for Cleveland to match up with. And 435 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: Steve Wilkes has done an incredible job with Cleveland's defense, 436 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: and I think we all we talked about is Cleveland's 437 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,959 Speaker 1: offense over and over. It happened against the Rams. They 438 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: had a great game plan with with their two with 439 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: four defensive backs starter starters out last against the Rams, 440 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: Greedy Williams, and they they had two cornerbacks out again 441 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: today and you cannot tell the way that they shut 442 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,959 Speaker 1: down Lamar Jackson. Outside of some very frisky runs by 443 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: the Ravens quarterback. They did a great job against Baltimore's offense, 444 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: and that Nick Chubb run was something else that I 445 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: have not seen them do this year. Really, you have 446 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: to go back to last season where they kept taking 447 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 1: hope away from the opponent and Nick Chubb had not, 448 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: you know they I thought they needed to center this 449 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: attack more around him. They found a way to do 450 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: it today. Baker Mayfield was not badgered from wire to 451 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: wire the way he has been in the other three games, 452 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: and you got this result. It is hopeful they've got 453 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: a short week before they play the Niners. But I 454 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: thought that they looked like a different offense that against 455 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: what I thought. The coaches could adjusted, made adjustments and 456 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: got their act together, and it was. It couldn't have 457 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,959 Speaker 1: happened a game sooner. I'm not sure how this believing 458 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: your own hype phenomenon works, but they must have just 459 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: like they just picked this week to stop believing their 460 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: own hype, according to the narrative, And it came on 461 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: a day where Odell Beckham was not a factor at all. 462 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: You know, what are the odds that he gets twenty 463 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: yards on seven targets in a forty burger in Baltimore? 464 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: Big time concern if you're a Ravens fan about the 465 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: state of this defense. I think you know we said 466 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: going into it, this is a Brown's offense that good 467 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: defenses should handle. Right now, I think the Brown's offense 468 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: that showed up today is was probably it was a 469 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: lot about them. But still this Ravens defense when it's 470 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: so early in the season that we it's such a 471 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: small sample size that you see them against the Dolphins 472 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: and the Cardinals and you think, you think one thing, 473 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: But as we're getting more information, they just don't look 474 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: like the Ravens defense were used to see. Well, they 475 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: put all their resources into offense the last two years 476 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: and Lamar Mania, which is you know, running wild in 477 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: weeks one and two. Things have cooled off a little bit, 478 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: it seems in week three and four. What did you 479 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: see from Jackson Mark, Well, they put the clamps on 480 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: him early, and you know that I thought that he 481 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: was going to potentially fry then with Marquis Brown and 482 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: they didn't. That connection did not work today, And to 483 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: me it is it is partially Baltimore, But I have 484 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: to say Cleveland's defense is playing in a way that 485 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: I I just don't remember them playing. And they've been 486 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: good in every game except that opener where they got 487 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: tired out against the Titans. I think you can say 488 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's a special talent, and he says bright, he 489 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 1: has a bright future and also point out that the 490 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: only two quality defenses he's faced in his career are 491 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: the Chargers defense that shut him down in the playoffs 492 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: and the Browns defense that shut him down today. Joe 493 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: Schobert has been playing well. I mean, they're just deep. 494 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: The the Browns defense, they're good on every level. How 495 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: about a little Steve Wilkes come up. Didn't expect that 496 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: to happen. Top ten defense this year, and the Browns 497 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: have another prime time game next week against the Niners. 498 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: Would anybody be surprised if that defense steps up again? 499 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: I mean, we'll say that conversation for Thursday. But it 500 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: does feel feel like the possibility that they might have 501 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: turned a corner with this game. I want to see Mayfield, 502 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: you know, do it week after week. I mean, I 503 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: want to see this game closer too. But it sounds 504 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: like he looked he was making decisions, was more comfortable 505 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: than Yeah, it just looked like last year's attack, where 506 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: the first three weeks to me was something completely different 507 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: and uninviting. First first place, Margie, I mean place in 508 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: week four We'll talk to me in week fourteen or 509 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 1: but first time in first place since when since Actually 510 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: it was a night when they beat the Bengals on 511 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football. You got you you, I believe the 512 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: podcast recap dialed Dan and I up at Lost and 513 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: found it was a boozy evening. Let's move on to 514 00:25:51,920 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 1: the NFC North one sas depens without Hicks. Evening of 515 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: yard lane under center set from Ah paul Is out 516 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 1: inside the fifteen yard line, pilot up Bears a taken 517 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: it away first snap of the second half, Hess kirk 518 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: Cousins gets sacked on first down. Huge play Jeff Johnny 519 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: Bears Radio Network with a call Khalil Mac makes big 520 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 1: place and you heard another one there. Chase Daniel through 521 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 1: for a d nine yards and a touchdown after Mitch 522 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: Drabski went down with the left shoulder injury on the 523 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: opening possession, and the Bears defense absolutely took it to 524 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook and Kirk Cousins in a sixteenth to six 525 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: victory over the Vikings. Um this was a home win 526 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: for a win for the home team. The Bears absolutely 527 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: um took it to the Vikings. Mark your thoughts on 528 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: or West this is your game, correct it was? Yes? 529 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: Your thoughts on the effort by the Bears defense, Well, 530 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: I know everybody wants to give their state of the 531 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 1: Union on Cousins after every Vikings lost. But this ain't it, man, 532 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: This is not The quarterback has nothing to do with 533 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: this game. It is a Bears defense, a front seven 534 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 1: that absolutely dominated an awful Vikings offensive line and Vikings 535 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: offensive line that is terrible and has been terrible. They 536 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: shut down Dalvin Cook. The Vikings offense had two possessions 537 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: in the first half nine plays in a punt where 538 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: Cousins just barely missed Adam Phelan on this long play 539 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: right here. Now you gotta make that catch too. Who 540 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: knows whose fault that is. But on the next play 541 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: they go twelve plays, next dry they go twelve plays. 542 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: Stefan digs fumbles. Those are only two possessions of the 543 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,719 Speaker 1: first in the first fine in the first half, they 544 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: just didn't have the possession that fumble. I'm blaming on 545 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. It should be blamed on the quarterback. Clear 546 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: They come out of halftime, first play, blindside strips strip 547 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 1: sac clear Meck goes right around Riley Rife, the left tackle, 548 00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: and it was more of that the rest of the way. 549 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 1: This is an underman Bears defense playing without ro Kuan 550 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: Smith and a chemicks, two very good starters. They plug 551 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: in Nick Williams and Nick Quickkowski and against this Vikings 552 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: offensive line, those two guys combine for seventeen tackles in 553 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: three sacks, another tackle for loss. These guys were fired 554 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: up and the Bears just absolutely dominated. To me, this 555 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: is more about the Bears defense than it is about 556 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 1: the Vikings offense. And if you're looking for a scapegoat, 557 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: it's the Vikings offensive line that is just not good. 558 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: And they were the scapegoat through all of last season 559 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: two and they thought they fixed those issues. If you're 560 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: a Bears fan, because Chase Daniel comes in today and 561 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: you know he knows Matt Niggy's offense, been with Matt 562 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: Niggy longer than Mitch Robinsky. How concerned are you about 563 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: Mitch Raisky being out for a while because I thought 564 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: Chase Daniel came in sight unseen and played pretty good game. Well, 565 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: I think history is instructive here, and last year he 566 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: came in, played the game manager role, nurse a lead. 567 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: Eddie Jackson had a pick six to help them win 568 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: a game on Thanksgiving against the Lions, and the next 569 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: week when nobody he's paying attention to the game. He 570 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: goes and gives it to a bad Giants team and 571 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: they lose with his two interceptions. I just think we 572 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: know who Chase Daniel is and he did a great 573 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: job today. His job is to play the game manager, 574 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: let the defense win the game for you, and when 575 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: things are going right, he's capable of doing that. But 576 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: he's just as capable of giving the ball to the 577 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: other team. And you see that he processes faster than 578 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: miss Robinsky, which you would expect from a veteran. His 579 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: ball placement is better than Mitch Drobinsky, who is an 580 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: inaccurate passer. You'll see that the Bears will miss Mitch 581 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: Robinsky's arm strength and athleticism when they play Chase Dames. Well. 582 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: To me, history is instructive, and that history started. June twenty, 583 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: two thousand thirteen went around the NFL editor Greg Rosenthal 584 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: wrote up Chase Daniel, Kansas City Chiefs quarterback as making 585 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: the leap Canada. It's not too late West. He comes 586 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: in and directs force, scoring drives out of the first 587 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: five or six possessions. Let's go, Let's ride. Is there 588 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: an exploration data? No? I think it always and even 589 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: development could make the lead inspired last year against the Giants. 590 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, though, if the story is written 591 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: about his making the leap with the Chiefs, by the 592 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: way to get credit for my favorite part is the 593 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: headline making the leap come on number thirty five. I 594 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: did a top forty countdown that yearly. Yeah, I think 595 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: that's what I mean. I mean, nonsense, Um West, You're 596 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: saying makes so much sense about Daniel. He doesn't need 597 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: to be a star, just like Mitch Robiscuit doesn't need 598 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: to be the star. Kind of get out of the 599 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: way a little bit. Just do what you have to do, 600 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: be a game manager, and this team could be playing 601 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: in the in the first Sunday in February. I think 602 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: this defense is every bit as good as left. It's 603 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: an unbelievable defense. And and that's two things I'm learning. 604 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: We're amazingly a quarter through the regular season. Now for 605 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: the most part, one of the Bears defense is just 606 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: as good, if not better, as than it was last year. 607 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: So look out. And number two, I was I was 608 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: big on the Vikings heading into the season. I'm shook 609 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: now because this game, especially when the other team loses 610 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: their starting quarterback and then you don't even you're not 611 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: really competitive there. They are several steps blowhards the Vikings. 612 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: You know there's a long way to go, but they 613 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: to me, I they've lost my trust in terms of 614 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: as soon as they're put into And it's not just 615 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: a Kirk Cousins thing. I don't love Kirk Cousins either. 616 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,719 Speaker 1: I don't feel like he's gonna suddenly go on some 617 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: hot streak and win nine games and it's fair and 618 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: like I just to me, Minnesota feels like you're ceiling 619 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: is about nine wins and if you ever snuck into 620 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: the playoffs, as soon as your environment becomes unfriendly on 621 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: any level, bye bye. This divisions gotta be tough and 622 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: this is a bad road loss. And the takeaway I 623 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,479 Speaker 1: think though, is that you know, ultimately these teams are 624 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: built similarly. The Vikings have so much money in their defense. 625 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: EVE been building it up for a long time and 626 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: it's it's a good defense, but it's nowhere near as 627 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: good as the Bears, and that's the difference. I agree 628 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: with that. And don't let Mike Zimmer off the hook 629 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: for this one either. He cost his team three points 630 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: by calling a time out when the Bears were set 631 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: up to punt on the Vikings thirty four yard line 632 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: because their kicker has a bad plant leg and can't 633 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: make a fifty one yard field goal. Emer calls the 634 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: time out and Neggi says, all right, you can give 635 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: me time to think about it. We'll just pick up 636 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: the first down they go and get. They gotta pick 637 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: up a first down and kick a shorter field goal. 638 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: I I defer to your knowledge on this West and 639 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: you watch this game closely, Um, I don't. I don't know. 640 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: You're gonna let Cousins totally off the hook though. The 641 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: fact that he's is he is? He just a guy? 642 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:20,959 Speaker 1: Is that who is? And then if he doesn't have 643 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: the right set up around him, they're doomed because I 644 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: think when they signed him, I think they thought he 645 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: was more than that. I just don't want to litigate 646 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: this after every single game, like are we gonna do 647 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,239 Speaker 1: this after every State of the Union, after every Cousins game. 648 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: He's kind of a fascinated guy for people. From that perspective, 649 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: I get that I'm begging people to watch the game, 650 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: watch the game, and this is all Chicago's defense in 651 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: Minnesota's bad offensive lines and penalties, and the digs play 652 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: was a killer, Like nobody's gonna get on digs for 653 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: that fumble. All I'd say, though, is you look at 654 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: someone like Deshaun Watson, who has been sacked at like 655 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: near historic levels early in his career, and he's someone 656 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: that you know, it's not every week he creates and 657 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: comes up with stuff on his own under duress, and 658 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: I just don't need a better place. Well, I mean 659 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: he had, he had just this band of a game 660 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: his cousin. It's just that you've paid Kirk Cousins free agent. 661 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: It's not every week with the Shawn Watson, but Kirk 662 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: Cousin has been paid the kind of money where he's 663 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: gonna get talked about week to week. Let's uh, Let's 664 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: move on to the highest scoring game of week four. 665 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: Dropping under from the ball, it's loose, it's picked up 666 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: by the Buccaneers to the thirty. That's funny, to the fifteen. 667 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: Dombako suon again. I'm double and willy. Buccaneers are gonna 668 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: beat the Rams the mine six to go fifty four 669 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: big points on the West Coast, a record. Jean Decker 670 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: Fox Radio dock work Shack Mason, Strip, Jared Goff and 671 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: Dominican sus snatched the loose ball Tucket to the house. 672 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: You heard it, the clinching score in a fifty five 673 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: to forty win for the Buccaneers over the Rams at 674 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: the Coliseum. Jared Coff finished with over five on a 675 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: yard passing, but he had four turnovers in the rams 676 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: first loss of the season. The Bucks they got three 677 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: five yards and four touchdowns from Jamis Winston. West is 678 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: gonna have to eat humble pie about that. Wait, then, 679 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: Mariota has just as gonna have a game that's not 680 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: That's not what I'm saying. You've been decided with who 681 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: dismissed Winston's effort last week and indication on how we 682 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,959 Speaker 1: should look at this game. He carried that performance into 683 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: a second lights out performance. He has my attention. I 684 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: also think it's important to be anchored by four years 685 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: of data so you don't flow away once I got 686 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 1: your data right here. Anyway, Winston Winston had a big 687 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: day career day for Chris Godwin, who has who has 688 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 1: emerged as one of the best second bananas in the 689 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: NFL behind Mike av Evans and the Bucks head to 690 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 1: London at two and two? Is that right now? We're 691 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: gonna see the Bucks in the Panthers. And I mean, 692 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 1: if I just hit that kick this Bucks teams three 693 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: and one, I'm so excited about our trip to London. 694 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,760 Speaker 1: I'm getting ahead of myself. But uh yes, a really 695 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: really important win for the Bucks, who, as we know, 696 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: had their hearts ripped out when the kicker blew the 697 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: chip shot. After Bruce Arians, the coach moved them back 698 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,720 Speaker 1: five yards. They somehow lose a game to the Giants 699 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: at home, and they go to l A and they 700 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: absolutely light up the Rams and do not let do 701 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: not let the numbers fool you. Um. The Rams finished 702 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: with um well over five yards of total offense. But 703 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: Todd Bowls's defense did a good job overall in this game. 704 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 1: A lot of that was just counting stats at the 705 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: Rams piled up. They made big plays, and the Bucks 706 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: are two and two and gotta be feeling pretty good 707 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 1: right now, very good in fact, especially because Bruce Arians 708 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,439 Speaker 1: was brought there to bring some the offense to life. 709 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: And now we've seen that two straight. Godwin's a one 710 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 1: A right now. I mean, his numbers are right there 711 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: with anyone in the league. We've been honking about him 712 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: on this show since the end of his rookie year, 713 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: and there's not many slot guys like him in the 714 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 1: league that's as good. At one when Arians said this 715 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: is gonna be a one hundred catch receiver and if 716 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:22,919 Speaker 1: a day like today twelve, he's right now. We said 717 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: after week two and Mark, you have the theory that 718 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: Arians maybe doesn't really be here. But after that those 719 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: first two weeks where the Winston was a messing Week one, 720 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: Week two, they get uh, they have another quiet game offensively, 721 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: but the defense does a nice job. The last two 722 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: weeks they've had almost a thousand yards of total yardage 723 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: on offense um. So there is absolutely potential here for 724 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: this to be a very good offense and who knows 725 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,720 Speaker 1: they could be that this could be a frisky team potential. 726 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 1: I don't want to get overly pumped up about the 727 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: bus because what West is right about is Winston does 728 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: suck people in a lot, and he will have moments 729 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 1: like this or even games stretches and then throw three 730 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: interceptions in the first quarter in his next game. That 731 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 1: could obviously happen, but you can only at this point 732 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: look at where they are right now and the fact 733 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 1: that Winston is with Bruce arians for the first time, 734 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: and if you're a Bucks fan, look at that with 735 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: hope that maybe he is turning the corner. Well, the 736 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 1: credit he's the one calling the plays a right. I mean, 737 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: the Bucks to me have been a team that you know, 738 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: coming out of hard knocks a couple of years ago, 739 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 1: there was a lot of optimism. Last year was old. 740 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: They added all these parts on defense, there's more optimism. 741 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: They've never been the sum of their parts, and today 742 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: you're finding out the last couple of weeks that they're 743 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: living up to their potential and you feel completely differently 744 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: about them. Well, even in this game, Winston through a 745 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: killer interception pick six late in the game that let 746 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 1: the Rams back in it. But then he responded with 747 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 1: the touchdowns and then your boy Mark Sessler Shack Barrett 748 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: got one of those two sacks that he needs to 749 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 1: get to ten for the year. You said it's not 750 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 1: gonna happen. Yeah, Sandwiches, I said, what I because this 751 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: is gonna drift away to to talk about not anchored, 752 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 1: is that these fast risers on like early season guys 753 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: that have eight sacks and three games that a lot 754 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: of times they end up with like nine, just like 755 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: the biggest play of the week on top of the last. 756 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: I would happily be wrong about him specifically, what I 757 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: was discussing is true as a statistical anomaly in the 758 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: NFL off happening. I don't think this is gonna be 759 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: a fun game to watch the game pass, but it 760 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 1: might set a record for the longest. The Rams had 761 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,879 Speaker 1: eighty one plays, the Bucks had seventy three. The Rams 762 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: only ran the ball eleven times. They dropped back seventy 763 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 1: three times. They did what I think a lot of 764 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 1: teams should do the second they fall down to the 765 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 1: three scores. Literally, don't run, throw the ball every single time, 766 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: and stretch out that game for as long as you can, 767 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,839 Speaker 1: because who knows, you might get into a situation where 768 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 1: Jamis Winston throws you a pick six and it's a 769 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: one score game in the fourth quarter. They stretched this 770 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: thing out. Is the longest game I've ever said we 771 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:03,720 Speaker 1: would predict the game pass length. Let's try this forty 772 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: six this the winner gets sandwiches. How about that? Is 773 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 1: it the iPad version or the longer version of the 774 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: two I'm going for? Yeah, I think they're going to 775 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: find a way the editors to indulge themselves for no 776 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 1: one cares that except for us uh week. It was 777 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,359 Speaker 1: not a good game for golf. Todd Gurley we talked 778 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: about on Thursday, is this going to be his coming 779 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,879 Speaker 1: out party? Hasn't had a hundred yard game yet? And yes, 780 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 1: they threw the ball constantly, but five carries for sixteen yards, 781 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: did score two touchdowns. Um yeah, I mean Goff made 782 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 1: some pretty throws up that's the thing you're saying. It's 783 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: a bad game, and it was without turnouts, but he 784 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: did throw it for five yds, turning the ball over 785 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 1: a point. Well, this is the first time the Rams 786 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,399 Speaker 1: have fallen out of first place since Sean McVeigh was high. 787 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: And I don't know who this Rams team is. I 788 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 1: thought they had an improved defense, and they give up 789 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: fifty five points to the Bucks and they still don't 790 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: have a consistent running game. But here's here's the thing 791 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: we saw it on Thursday night. Defense. You know, improved 792 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,839 Speaker 1: defenses are nice. It doesn't matter in the I mean 793 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 1: it does matter because you have to win different types 794 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 1: of games. But they're gonna get blown out there. You're 795 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: gonna give up yards and points some game. It's two 796 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: thousand nineteen, even the Bears. I hate to say it. 797 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to score some points or else that 798 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: team is gonna, you know, get hit and knocked down 799 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: at some point. I mean, good defenses are not as 800 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,479 Speaker 1: good as great offenses. I want to give one final 801 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: shout out before we move on. Matt Gay, who got 802 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: killed by me and a lot of other people after 803 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,360 Speaker 1: blowing the game last week. The place kicker, he drills 804 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 1: a fifty eight yard or uh in this game, and 805 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,760 Speaker 1: then downstairs, well not only drilling, I mean he smacked 806 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 1: it up against the net. It just it's a guy 807 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,919 Speaker 1: that stepped up in a big spot. And then after 808 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 1: that terrible Winston picks six gave the Rams life and 809 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: it was forty five to forty I believe um or 810 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: in that range. Um he hits another field goal that 811 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: essentially gives them the distance they need to win the game. 812 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 1: So a nice bounce back before and Spike, can you 813 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 1: believe that you've motivated him during the week with your comments? 814 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 1: Do you want my honest answer him? Yes, that's what 815 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 1: I would imagine. You say, Let's move on. I mean, 816 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: you asked me a question. I'm gonna answer down in six. 817 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 1: It's almost sack, but he keeps his ball. Now he 818 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 1: throws at the twelve yard line, first down. Panthers. Incredible, 819 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 1: cherious right from Kyle Allen who went off script and 820 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 1: played it just right. Mick mixing with that drawl Panther's 821 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:40,439 Speaker 1: radio network, nice and smooth. Kyle Allen evaded ashore sack 822 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: by J. J. Watt delivered a huge completion the most 823 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: important play in the Panthers thirteen ten win over the 824 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,839 Speaker 1: Texans in Houston. Alan lost three fumbles in the game, 825 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: but the Caroline defense stepped up huge and shutting down 826 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. Nuke and the Texans offense. West had the 827 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 1: Panthers do this well. They're defense has fourteen sacks and 828 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 1: four takeaways in two games since Cam Newton went down 829 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: with it foot injury. They sacked Kyler Murray eight times 830 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,359 Speaker 1: a week ago, and they sacked Deshaun Watson six times today, 831 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: hit him eleven times, hurried him nineteen times. And we 832 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 1: know that some of that is on the offensive line 833 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,840 Speaker 1: and some of that is on Deshaun Watson's playing style. 834 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,880 Speaker 1: And to Mark's point about Kirk Cousins who it can 835 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,240 Speaker 1: be said that he holds the ball and then probably 836 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: checks down too often. Deshaun Watson holds the ball to 837 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 1: go for big plays, and today he missed a few 838 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: of them. He had some open and he missed them. 839 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 1: And he said after the game, look that's on me. 840 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 1: I held the ball too long and I didn't hit 841 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: the big plays. That's his playing style. He holds the 842 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 1: ball too long, which contributes to his hits and sacks. 843 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 1: I think this offense is fixable. They've been under I 844 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,760 Speaker 1: believe thirteen points are under in two the last three weeks. 845 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 1: Let's get some sink uh. Let's get some rapport between 846 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 1: Watson and his offensive line on that and his receivers. 847 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 1: But you have to give the Panther secondary a lot 848 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: of credit to or Kenny Stills injured his hamstring in 849 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 1: the first quarter and was their leading receiver midway through 850 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. James Bradberry did a really good job 851 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 1: on DeAndre Hopkins today and the Panthers defense was lights out. 852 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,919 Speaker 1: Hopkins forty one yards. There's not too many weeks where 853 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,320 Speaker 1: he's not. No matter how the team is faring, he 854 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 1: always produces, and through an interception a very costly interception 855 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 1: on a trick play, and Bill O'Brien killed himself for 856 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 1: the play call After the game, weren't we just discussing 857 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien and his lead pastor individual outside the building 858 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 1: as front office executives of the year and them as 859 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: the favorites in the a f C South, which I 860 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 1: still think they are. But it's a division, you know, 861 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: spoiler alert. Everyone has the same record right now. I 862 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: think they're the most talented, but they're they're not a 863 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,799 Speaker 1: team that's you know, bulletproof, especially when they're playing Lazarus. 864 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 1: I mean Ron Rivera, we talked about it a couple 865 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,319 Speaker 1: of weeks ago. He rises from the dead. Every time 866 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 1: you think he's about to lose his job, what do 867 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 1: they do? They smack around the Cardinals on the road. 868 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 1: They have defense shows up like that. That's kind of 869 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 1: what Ron Rivera has been able to do over the years. 870 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,359 Speaker 1: At a certain point, you kind of you just gotta 871 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 1: figure that's what he does. That's his movie's gonna use 872 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 1: it well. I think we see their formula now and 873 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 1: it might be similar to what the Bears have going on. 874 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,799 Speaker 1: They probably trust Kyle aw In a little bit more 875 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 1: than the Bears trust their quarterbacks because Kyle Allen's played 876 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 1: pretty well outside of the three strip secks today once 877 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 1: she lost three fumbles. And that's my biggest concern with 878 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 1: him is how he deals with pressure. But you can 879 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 1: see that he's got the touch, he's got the accuracy, 880 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 1: he makes pretty good decisions, and he's got an m 881 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 1: VP candidate at running back. Christian McCaffrey thirty seven touches today, 882 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 1: a D seventy nine yards. He put the team on 883 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 1: his back. He had also and if you haven't looked 884 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: at the replay, go find this third down catch where 885 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 1: it's bobbled through the air and it's the one of 886 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,400 Speaker 1: the more acrobatic athletic movements you'll see all season. And 887 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 1: they're developing an identity. Brian Burns is playing with his 888 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,280 Speaker 1: hair on fire. They have done Terry Poe and Mario Addison, 889 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 1: Jack Thompson without Kwan short shack. Thompson doesn't leave the 890 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,839 Speaker 1: field now he's replaced Thomas Davis. They got a lot 891 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 1: of pieces. I understand you're in a tough spot with 892 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 1: Cam Newton out and Alan who's shown things, but still 893 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 1: you you really need McCaffrey to be your centerpiece. I'd 894 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,439 Speaker 1: be curious to check out where his touches are through 895 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 1: four games. They don't want to manage that a little bit. 896 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 1: You don't want to be doing thirty seven. He's so 897 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,839 Speaker 1: valuable they don't think they can take him off the field. 898 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 1: And part of that it has to do with the 899 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 1: fact that they've never really had a great backup behind him. 900 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 1: All right, Uh, let's go to the a f C 901 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,839 Speaker 1: A West South showdown. That just stays in the gun 902 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 1: on this first down and ten again intercepted. Gonna be 903 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 1: a touchdown. Gotta be a touchdown, Eric Harris lot a game, 904 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 1: it's safety. Well, that's one of the finest places I've 905 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 1: seen Eric Harris making wide money lots, aren't. Let's go 906 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 1: to London Boys Bred Glussburger of course, the Icon and 907 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 1: Lincoln Kennedy with inside therrif k CBS. Rick Carris stepped 908 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 1: in front of the Uh, Derek Carr passed, excuse me? 909 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,279 Speaker 1: Eric carrs stepped in front of a Jacoby Brissette pass 910 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 1: and took it earty yards to the house, the clinching 911 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 1: touchdown in the Raiders over the Colts. The Raiders got 912 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 1: a huge play there by Harris because it did feel 913 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 1: like a game that had the potential to slip away 914 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 1: from Oakland. The Raiders, who had done really nothing on offense. 915 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 1: In fact, they had two scoring drives in their previous 916 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 1: eighteen possessions entering this game. They get up fourteen nothing early. 917 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 1: In fact, they scored three touchdowns in their first four 918 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,080 Speaker 1: possessions the Raiders in this game, but then go cold again. 919 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 1: Uh so car Derek Carr finished fast ends up throwing 920 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 1: for less than two hundred yards, and at the point 921 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,840 Speaker 1: when that final interception was made, it seemed like the 922 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 1: Colts were gonna find a way to win this game, 923 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 1: but instead the Raiders get it done. And uh I 924 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,759 Speaker 1: just think John Gruden on balanced so far again. We're 925 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 1: at the quarter pole. I know they said there's no 926 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 1: such thing as a quarter pole. Well I guess what. 927 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,879 Speaker 1: I don't care what you say. Oh the horse racing fans, 928 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,440 Speaker 1: all three of them, get upset about it at the 929 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 1: quarter poles. How about you keep your horses alive a 930 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 1: little better? At the Quarner poll. The Raiders are two 931 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 1: and two and they are on a absolute marathon road trip. 932 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 1: It's absurd the way this has been set up and 933 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 1: John Gruden, love him or hate him, uh, he has 934 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 1: right to be annoyed. The fact that they're going forty 935 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: two days between home games and how about umb botch 936 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:28,359 Speaker 1: your stadium situation and not be able to afford sim 937 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 1: that you have to give up your game and go 938 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 1: to London. Everything. The guys in the locker room have 939 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 1: nothing to do, get it, but they still this is 940 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 1: their second road game. Now they go to London where 941 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 1: they're the quote unquote home team. Then they have a bye, 942 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,480 Speaker 1: then two more road games. They don't play at home 943 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,160 Speaker 1: again until November three, um against the Lions. I believe. 944 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 1: So any win you can get during the stretch, if 945 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 1: you could survive this this brutal uh slate where you're 946 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,720 Speaker 1: just traveling constantly, and you could be in good shape. 947 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 1: Well maybe when you get back home you could be 948 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 1: a little frisky to Thanksgiving and and so far. Again, 949 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 1: the Raiders not not a great team, probably not even 950 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 1: a good team, but they are showing fight and this 951 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,320 Speaker 1: was a really nice effort on the road against a 952 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 1: Cults team that we all like a lot. Yeah, and credit, 953 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 1: I mean we there's all those studies every time the 954 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,919 Speaker 1: Raiders have to travel East and play the early game. 955 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,800 Speaker 1: How they're like one and a billion when they have 956 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,879 Speaker 1: to do that. So credit to them, I will say, 957 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 1: though they caught the Cults at the right time. You've 958 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 1: got t Y Hilton out, Darius leonard In, a defensive 959 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 1: Player of the Year candidate out with a concussion, maliek 960 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 1: Cooker at safety out, and they lost Marlon Mack for 961 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 1: a big chunk of this game. They're deep team and 962 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,319 Speaker 1: they're well built, but you get to a point where 963 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 1: you can't compete. I agree with that, and you you 964 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,880 Speaker 1: could see that, and when you guys check this game out, 965 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 1: you'll see it too that Brissette really did look a 966 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 1: little bit lost without t Y Hilton, who was so 967 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 1: important in this offense. When we saw that when he 968 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 1: was on the field in the first three games. He 969 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 1: is Brissets go to guy when it counts, and with 970 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,840 Speaker 1: him on the sideline, and uh, they barely moved the 971 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,320 Speaker 1: ball for the most of this game. They finished with 972 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 1: three forty six yards, which is not great but not terrible. 973 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,360 Speaker 1: But then just know that more than half of that 974 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,520 Speaker 1: yardage came in the fourth quarter when it was just 975 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 1: a man scramble to try to get back into the game, 976 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,240 Speaker 1: so Indy kind of had a lost day on offense. 977 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,800 Speaker 1: Um shorthanded a wide receiver. Bunches, of course, is also 978 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,240 Speaker 1: out and Um and the Raiders showed up and balled 979 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 1: out and the Raiders leading receivers Darren Waller again seven 980 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 1: for fifty three. West mentioned, you know that Eric Ebron 981 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 1: might be the next thousand yard tight end or thousand 982 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:34,880 Speaker 1: drop tight end. No, I don't think it was. I mean, 983 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 1: not Eric Ebron, Evan Evan Ingram. Yeah, Waller's on pace 984 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 1: and then something you look he's got, He's got three 985 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,560 Speaker 1: hundred plus yards. He's writing quite a story. I mean, 986 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,120 Speaker 1: he might be a Pro Bowl type of tight en. 987 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,799 Speaker 1: He has really fun to watch. He's come back from 988 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 1: you know, addiction. He's a guy that John Gordon literally 989 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,880 Speaker 1: signed because he liked the way he looked on the sideline. 990 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 1: And it's wild then that he's a leading receiver on 991 00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,800 Speaker 1: two and two an NFL team ultra rare hard Knocks. 992 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:01,839 Speaker 1: It's so easy to fall in love with Hard Knocks 993 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,680 Speaker 1: players that are featured on the show. And like Greg said, 994 00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 1: his addiction backstory made him a compelling figure on the show, 995 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,200 Speaker 1: and then he would be killing it in these slow 996 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,960 Speaker 1: motion NFL films practice highlights, and then he steps into 997 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 1: action is just as good. You never see that in 998 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,160 Speaker 1: hard knocks. It always plays you for a fool, But 999 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,840 Speaker 1: not in this case. Can we talk about a generational 1000 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:26,800 Speaker 1: cheap shot artist, dirty player? Oh my god, Yes, Vonte's perfect, 1001 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,200 Speaker 1: absolutely as cheap shot as a cheap shot can be. Uh. 1002 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,960 Speaker 1: Goes for Jack Doyle, who is in a very vulnerable 1003 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 1: position after making a catch, goes helmet to helmet, and 1004 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:41,080 Speaker 1: good on on the officiating crew who take a look 1005 00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 1: at the play. And in addition to the fifteen yard 1006 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,440 Speaker 1: personal foul, say get addie here, Vante's perfect? And at 1007 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 1: what point is the NFL just gonna say get Addie 1008 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 1: here Vante's perfect? Period, I've got a couple of steps 1009 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,680 Speaker 1: for you. Okay, let's hear him. Last year, the league 1010 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,440 Speaker 1: imposed more than one sixty five thousand dollars in fines 1011 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 1: against perfect are illegal hits. That's just last year alone. 1012 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,400 Speaker 1: This is from the Football Zebras Twitter account. There are 1013 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,279 Speaker 1: six times in one years of nl NFL history when 1014 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,680 Speaker 1: a player was suspended multiple games for an on field infraction. 1015 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,879 Speaker 1: Two of those times are Vontes perfect, and I would 1016 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,120 Speaker 1: bet it's about to be three of those. If you're 1017 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,840 Speaker 1: if you're going to London, you're gonna see Chack the 1018 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 1: game next week, which looks pretty good all things considered. 1019 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,000 Speaker 1: Raiders bears at three and one versus two and two, 1020 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 1: and I don't think you're gonna see Mitchell Robinsky. I 1021 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,839 Speaker 1: don't think you're gonna see Vont's perfect perfect. I got 1022 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 1: even one of these fines, my bank account, our entire 1023 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:37,200 Speaker 1: family structure would crumble. I can't get a don't stop 1024 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:43,359 Speaker 1: the run. God, it takes shotgun staff. He's back to throw, 1025 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,880 Speaker 1: he's under pressure. He throws it off the stuff he 1026 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,320 Speaker 1: throw it like pick off five Peppers putting down the 1027 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:54,200 Speaker 1: right fuse t puts down Giants. Peppers hostetures under pressure. 1028 00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,720 Speaker 1: The throw was laid off the back foot. Pepper spread 1029 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 1: it all the way that your brow pup bixis Bob 1030 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,040 Speaker 1: Papa with a call w f A and Jabrill. Pepper's 1031 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:07,719 Speaker 1: first year as a Giant scored on a thirty two 1032 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 1: yard interception return, the knockout blow for the Giants and 1033 00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:15,040 Speaker 1: an easy three win over the more of under Washington Redskins. 1034 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,160 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is now two and oh as the starter 1035 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,000 Speaker 1: Wayne Gallman ran for two scores and plays of se 1036 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:24,440 Speaker 1: Quon Barkley Mark Dwayne Haskins made his debut for the Redskins. 1037 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:31,759 Speaker 1: But there's no stopping the suddenly resurgeon je. Honestly, I 1038 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:37,400 Speaker 1: know they're not a complete team, but the right to 1039 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,560 Speaker 1: bring that chant back and do that as much as 1040 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,239 Speaker 1: you want because they are fun to watch and I 1041 00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,800 Speaker 1: know that the the knock is their defense is utterly inept. 1042 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 1: Not today, I realize you're playing a team in the 1043 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,200 Speaker 1: Redskins that at this point I would put around Dolphins 1044 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,759 Speaker 1: level in terms of unwatchability and uh in terms of 1045 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,719 Speaker 1: their on field capabilities, planned lists like you know, they 1046 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,160 Speaker 1: couldn't have made it more a parent that Dwayne Haskins 1047 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,920 Speaker 1: was not ready for prime time with coach with the 1048 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:08,319 Speaker 1: coaches comments, you know, hammering that to us week after week, 1049 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,440 Speaker 1: and you put him on the field today because case 1050 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 1: keenom is is not functioning at all as your starter, 1051 00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:18,040 Speaker 1: big surprise. Who saw that coming? And Haskins was absolutely 1052 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 1: victimized and I he he is just he for what 1053 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,120 Speaker 1: he does well, he's got a big arm. He's also 1054 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:28,279 Speaker 1: just not he's not seen the field and so you know, 1055 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,440 Speaker 1: that was true from the coaching staff. And with Daniel Jones, 1056 00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,320 Speaker 1: you know, he there were there were some issues in 1057 00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,879 Speaker 1: this game for him. He had a couple of bad interceptions. 1058 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,560 Speaker 1: But what I love was that Patcher made the comment 1059 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,480 Speaker 1: after that after he threw the two picks on the sideline, 1060 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,359 Speaker 1: it wasn't like a rattled you know, deer and headlights time. Thing, 1061 00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:49,120 Speaker 1: totally composed, came back, made some big throws when he's 1062 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,480 Speaker 1: on the field. Guys like Sterling Shepard, we've talked about 1063 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,760 Speaker 1: Evan Ingram come to life. Wayne Gallman, as you mentioned, 1064 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,399 Speaker 1: had a big game, and I thought that they It's 1065 00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,279 Speaker 1: not that they didn't miss se Quon Barkley because he's 1066 00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,920 Speaker 1: a super special talent, but it ran for a hundred 1067 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 1: and sixty four yards at four point four yards per carry. 1068 00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:07,320 Speaker 1: With Jones in there, everything just functions a little bit differently, 1069 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,400 Speaker 1: clean water, fresh stream, not a dirty pond like they 1070 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:15,760 Speaker 1: were with Eli Manning. The Redskins stink, but they also 1071 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,719 Speaker 1: won twenty four to three, and they didn't get they did. 1072 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 1: You know, the Redskins have had a couple of quarters 1073 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,080 Speaker 1: where they put points up on other teams. They didn't 1074 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,640 Speaker 1: against New York today. Right, we give the Bears credit 1075 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,759 Speaker 1: for totally shutting down the Redskins. I think it's significant 1076 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,960 Speaker 1: that they held the Redskins the hundred and seventies six 1077 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,319 Speaker 1: yards and three points. If you're not gonna if you're 1078 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,680 Speaker 1: gonna give the Patriots credits for like trouncing the week 1079 00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:41,880 Speaker 1: sisters of the NFL, that's what competent defenses can do. Now, 1080 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:43,800 Speaker 1: I don't think the Giants defense is suddenly going to 1081 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,440 Speaker 1: be competent, but can they improve? You know, teams change 1082 00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,359 Speaker 1: a lot during the course of this season. They're gonna 1083 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,840 Speaker 1: be totally different December. Can they improve from the thirty 1084 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:54,240 Speaker 1: second best defense in the league to somewhere around twenty 1085 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,239 Speaker 1: or twenty three like the rest of the way. Is 1086 00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,840 Speaker 1: that possible that they can scheme that up and that 1087 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,600 Speaker 1: will help them be competitive with a young quarterback? Like 1088 00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,480 Speaker 1: I think that's possible. And now this is an outlier 1089 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,799 Speaker 1: and something it's something to watch. And there two and two, Well, 1090 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,399 Speaker 1: it helps when you're not you know, with the Eli 1091 00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,279 Speaker 1: in there. And it's not just on Eli Manning, it's 1092 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,120 Speaker 1: highly but they were three and out operation that had 1093 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,879 Speaker 1: it seemingly planned one offensive drive and then they dry 1094 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 1: up the attack the entire rest of the game. That's 1095 00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 1: not true. Now Danny Dimes gets golden tape back next 1096 00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,880 Speaker 1: week too. You know, I just clicked into a New 1097 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:31,200 Speaker 1: York Post story um about Landon Collins. You know, I guess, yeah, 1098 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,280 Speaker 1: his first game I forgot and that you know obviously 1099 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 1: didn't work out for him. But what I really want 1100 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,400 Speaker 1: to bring up is on the sidebar of the New 1101 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,320 Speaker 1: York Post there's a trending now in sports section with 1102 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,359 Speaker 1: three headlines, and I just want to read them off 1103 00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 1: because they're all compelling. Odell Beckham is choked out in 1104 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:52,600 Speaker 1: Brown's Raven Raven's fight NFL villain at it again with 1105 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,399 Speaker 1: ghastly head shot. I assume that's our friend Ron Tess 1106 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:59,960 Speaker 1: perfect and Bill's coach escorts Bill Belichick's son off field 1107 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:04,640 Speaker 1: in sketchy scene. Who is what? It's like a gossip? 1108 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,279 Speaker 1: And that was the third one that was the best, 1109 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,839 Speaker 1: like website for pro booball the post. Nick Dermott got 1110 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:15,719 Speaker 1: all fired up at not Steve Belichick, but another bellotchick 1111 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 1: and another Patriots stafford who was like watching the Bills 1112 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,280 Speaker 1: warm up and they got into some sort of argument. 1113 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,560 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott was one of them. No, he was. He 1114 00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:26,440 Speaker 1: was in. It was all. It was all on video. 1115 00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,880 Speaker 1: This was a big story, you know, for the pregame shows. 1116 00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,840 Speaker 1: And then everyone realized like, okay, it was just he 1117 00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:34,919 Speaker 1: shoot them off the field. You don't want to mess 1118 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,399 Speaker 1: with McDermott. That's that's a state high school wrestling champ, 1119 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,279 Speaker 1: isn't it that he was? He was a wrestler. All right, 1120 00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,839 Speaker 1: let's move on. He told us that New York Post. Yeah, 1121 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:55,400 Speaker 1: you know how to intercepted Clowny? Hello, Mr Clowney touchdowns 1122 00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:00,840 Speaker 1: debian Clowney stretched out, reaches arm almost to the ceiling, 1123 00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,040 Speaker 1: pulled the ball down on a screen pass and took 1124 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:08,000 Speaker 1: it about thirty yards for six. Seattle goes on top 1125 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,680 Speaker 1: now by a score of nine. Enough, that's how you 1126 00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,160 Speaker 1: do a radio broadcast, Steve Rabel Dave Wyman on the 1127 00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,800 Speaker 1: call Seahawks Radio Network to Dave and Clowney, you look 1128 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,560 Speaker 1: like a tight end on his interception return, covering twenty 1129 00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:24,320 Speaker 1: seven yards for a tv UH Seattle's first score touchdown 1130 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:32,520 Speaker 1: of the day over the morabund Arizona art right. Michael 1131 00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,040 Speaker 1: Kendricks finished with two sacks. Chris Carson went over a 1132 00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 1: hundred yards for the Seahawks, who are three and one 1133 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,800 Speaker 1: with a huge Week five matchup against the Rams looming. Greg, 1134 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,280 Speaker 1: What did you take out of this game? That the 1135 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,880 Speaker 1: Seahawks are ready to win some games like easily, That 1136 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:52,280 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson doesn't need to do crazy things to be 1137 00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,640 Speaker 1: an m v P contender through a quarter of the 1138 00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,320 Speaker 1: season eight point six yards per attempt, doesn't have an 1139 00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:01,040 Speaker 1: interception this year, eight touchdowns for him, and that they 1140 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,800 Speaker 1: can just kind of have a no drama free game, 1141 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:05,520 Speaker 1: like you never see that out of the Seahawks. They 1142 00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:10,080 Speaker 1: were watching the Rams game and on their in their 1143 00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,000 Speaker 1: locker room, and when and Dominican Sue ran that touchdown 1144 00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,640 Speaker 1: for back for the Bucks, they erupted. And I like that. 1145 00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,720 Speaker 1: It's like there's a little bit of a rivalry there. 1146 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,960 Speaker 1: That's a Thursday night game this week. The forty niners 1147 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:24,200 Speaker 1: are undefeated. This division is interesting except for the Cardinals. 1148 00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,680 Speaker 1: It's fun by the way, that who are not interesting. 1149 00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:28,960 Speaker 1: It's fun on Seahawks quarter. Do you want to come back? 1150 00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,040 Speaker 1: You're I never I never put your stuff away. It's 1151 00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,160 Speaker 1: all your rooms. Just now I'm worrying. I'm watching him. 1152 00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:39,080 Speaker 1: It's been fun. It's fun to watch him going in back. 1153 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:40,760 Speaker 1: I guess I kind of wa back it. It's like 1154 00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,280 Speaker 1: when when they're turning will dis lee into a thing. 1155 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,920 Speaker 1: Well this he has almost more catches this year than 1156 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 1: he had his entire college career. He ran like a 1157 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,680 Speaker 1: five to forty. He came out of nowhere and here 1158 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:55,560 Speaker 1: he is as they're leading receiver coming off attending right, 1159 00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,600 Speaker 1: that's right. You gotta use Clowney on offense. The car Yeah, 1160 00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:02,600 Speaker 1: the Cardinals are the one team that doesn't excite you, 1161 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:04,560 Speaker 1: and that's not what this was supposed to be. This 1162 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,200 Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to be a super Bowl campaign for the Cardinals. 1163 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 1: But the fact that they're not really moving the meter, 1164 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,880 Speaker 1: that's not a good Well. They were the unknown and 1165 00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 1: what we're knowing about them is not particularly interesting and 1166 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,720 Speaker 1: not interesting is not what I expected. I thought it 1167 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,760 Speaker 1: would either be an epic disaster or something. The Corners 1168 00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,600 Speaker 1: shocked the league and it's kind of it's just middle place. 1169 00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:27,480 Speaker 1: They haven't won a game, and they got blown out 1170 00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,400 Speaker 1: twice at home in a row here, so that that's 1171 00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,840 Speaker 1: a bad sign. David Johnson looked better today. Hundred and 1172 00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,960 Speaker 1: thirty three yards from scrimmage. I thought he had some 1173 00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,720 Speaker 1: of his old juice, which was nicely. But here's what 1174 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:39,560 Speaker 1: not on the ground though, what's going on with it? 1175 00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:44,040 Speaker 1: He's had they were trailing, you know, that Clowney injury happened. 1176 00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 1: I mean, the Clowney touchdown happened. They really went out 1177 00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:47,920 Speaker 1: of their way to establish Chris Carson, who had a 1178 00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,520 Speaker 1: great game hundred forty two yards and it was just 1179 00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,840 Speaker 1: a nice This was a Sessler Fever dream game, as 1180 00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,560 Speaker 1: we talked about downstairs. It was quick, it was over 1181 00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,919 Speaker 1: and under three hours easily. It was a blowout. I mean, cess, 1182 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,920 Speaker 1: that's how that's how a pro football game should get. Execution, 1183 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,480 Speaker 1: shooting in the back of the head, bang, it's over quickly. 1184 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:11,080 Speaker 1: Their linebackers. I'm really impressed by the Seahawks linebackers. They 1185 01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:12,520 Speaker 1: never leave the field. They're the only team in the 1186 01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,600 Speaker 1: league really that's like that. Michael Carroll said, this is 1187 01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,280 Speaker 1: the best linebacker quarries hand. I don't doubt if Michael 1188 01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:21,480 Speaker 1: Kendricks played awesome today. kJ Wright has played great last week. 1189 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,400 Speaker 1: And you're playing a team that plays four receivers every 1190 01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:26,480 Speaker 1: snap or many steps, and yet you don't take your 1191 01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,120 Speaker 1: linebackers off the field like that is tough to pull off. 1192 01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,520 Speaker 1: But you're when you're right. When you're talking about Kingsbury. 1193 01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:32,920 Speaker 1: You know, what we haven't seen out of them is 1194 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,720 Speaker 1: like a schematic advantage, you know what I mean? He 1195 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:40,439 Speaker 1: hasn't come in and provided like I think Kyler Murray 1196 01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:42,919 Speaker 1: looks quite good. I think he had a fine game today, 1197 01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:46,080 Speaker 1: act despite the final score, which seems like we're, oh, 1198 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,200 Speaker 1: they're gonna They're gonna revolutionize the game with the past happy. 1199 01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:52,000 Speaker 1: It's how every team in the league that isn't completely 1200 01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,080 Speaker 1: out of it is past happy at historic levels. So 1201 01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,160 Speaker 1: how different are they than anyone else? At this point? 1202 01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,520 Speaker 1: Where did uh Kyler Murray's height come in for this 1203 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:03,320 Speaker 1: game two? I mean this was the short guy ball here, 1204 01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:08,240 Speaker 1: So shout out to short men everywhere. Stay strong, stay proud, 1205 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,600 Speaker 1: you know we love you. He can't look too big 1206 01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:15,000 Speaker 1: with without Jenevian Clowney's streaking by him at like six 1207 01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:18,520 Speaker 1: ft eight. No, that was kind of a flukey, a 1208 01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,640 Speaker 1: tough play for him, But it's like the Cardinals have 1209 01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:23,959 Speaker 1: no ability to come back. Our friend Jason Somwalts ready 1210 01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,280 Speaker 1: to call it a season. I think his counting numbers 1211 01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,600 Speaker 1: don't look that bad, Kyler Murray. But he's dropping back 1212 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:34,600 Speaker 1: as much as anyone and getting first downs less than anyone. Problem. 1213 01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:38,520 Speaker 1: Let's move up I formation, single receiver Brown, wide layout 1214 01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,600 Speaker 1: playfing Mario to fires over the middle. There's Brown at 1215 01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,440 Speaker 1: the forty, at the thirty, five, at the thirty, at 1216 01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,680 Speaker 1: the five, at the twenty, at the fifty, at the ten, 1217 01:01:48,120 --> 01:02:00,080 Speaker 1: at the five tighten Jay Brown. Yeah, it's fun, my 1218 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,800 Speaker 1: Keith with a call. Titans Radio Network Marcus Mariota through 1219 01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,800 Speaker 1: three touchdown passes and one half. That's gotta be a record. 1220 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,520 Speaker 1: Uh to to a J. Brown, including the one you 1221 01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,320 Speaker 1: just heard. And the Tennessee Tattoos snapped an ugly two 1222 01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:16,000 Speaker 1: game losing streak with to tend Road win over the 1223 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:22,760 Speaker 1: stumbling the Moribunda in Atlanta Falcon wes uh. This is all. 1224 01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:24,840 Speaker 1: This is all a script for the Tytoons. Just when 1225 01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,200 Speaker 1: you're ready to write them off, they deliver a complete 1226 01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,000 Speaker 1: performance to remind you of their potential. But what does 1227 01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:33,000 Speaker 1: it mean in the big picture? They have the potential 1228 01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:34,440 Speaker 1: to go nine and seven and lose it in the 1229 01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,200 Speaker 1: first round of the playoffs. I'd be good luck figuring 1230 01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:41,520 Speaker 1: this team out. They it was so unusual to see 1231 01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:44,640 Speaker 1: a wide receiver making plays for the Titans. And A. J. 1232 01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:48,200 Speaker 1: Brown was beating Desmond Trufont today and you see right 1233 01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:50,920 Speaker 1: here making plays after the catch runs away, and it 1234 01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:52,600 Speaker 1: does remind me a little bit of a young and 1235 01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,840 Speaker 1: Quan Bold in the way he plays physical. He's very physical. 1236 01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,360 Speaker 1: He's good after the catch, and you don't see guys 1237 01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,400 Speaker 1: like Corey Davis, drafted fifth overall doin stuff like this. Now, 1238 01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:03,880 Speaker 1: Corey Davis did get a touchdown, but he's not making 1239 01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,480 Speaker 1: plays at the catch like that. Um. But the the 1240 01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,360 Speaker 1: receivers won the battle against the Falcon secondary that hasn't 1241 01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,000 Speaker 1: been very good this year. And the Falcons have fallen 1242 01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:16,120 Speaker 1: behind twenty eight to nothing to the Vikings, twenty three 1243 01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,800 Speaker 1: to the Colts, in two to seven to the Titans 1244 01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,360 Speaker 1: by halftime. I mean this. This team has been out 1245 01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:23,960 Speaker 1: of three or four three of their four games. And 1246 01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:28,600 Speaker 1: it's pertinent that the head coach fired his top assistance 1247 01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:31,560 Speaker 1: last year, and the owner is paying out more cash 1248 01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,560 Speaker 1: for his players than any other owner in the year 1249 01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:38,440 Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen. I'm bummed out. I'm always the guy 1250 01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,160 Speaker 1: who's not gonna say their seasons over or anything like that, 1251 01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,040 Speaker 1: but this this results. Seeing them go down like this 1252 01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:48,200 Speaker 1: today got me thinking, I will be bummed out if 1253 01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:54,400 Speaker 1: the Falcons era under Dimitroff doesn't get closer, it doesn't 1254 01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,200 Speaker 1: ever win that super Bowl, you know what I mean? 1255 01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,640 Speaker 1: Like if I I kind of get it both ways, 1256 01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,840 Speaker 1: what do you mean your your team is responsible for 1257 01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:05,000 Speaker 1: the most destructive loss any team has ever suffered, and 1258 01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:09,040 Speaker 1: now you're gonna cry all about there that the Falcons, Well, 1259 01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:15,360 Speaker 1: then you should have been. I was like, you're playing 1260 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,280 Speaker 1: both sides on this one. I was all about the 1261 01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:19,080 Speaker 1: Falcons the year after that. I just liked the whole 1262 01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,600 Speaker 1: vibe of the organization. And now I'm just surprised that 1263 01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:25,320 Speaker 1: there's there's this little fight right now to start. This 1264 01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,440 Speaker 1: seems like a team that needs a soft reboot, and 1265 01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:30,160 Speaker 1: it's too early. It's both too early and too late 1266 01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:33,120 Speaker 1: because this season has already started there already in a 1267 01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:35,040 Speaker 1: deep hole now at one and three, not too deep. 1268 01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,280 Speaker 1: But it's not a great situation. But it's more the 1269 01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,000 Speaker 1: way that they're losing. Uh, and we all have to 1270 01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:43,120 Speaker 1: watch this game closer. But I mean it's the way 1271 01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:47,360 Speaker 1: is it one of those type you get from it 1272 01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,200 Speaker 1: other than the Falcons just doing very good? Is that 1273 01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,080 Speaker 1: what this is? They're just not a very good team. Well, look, 1274 01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:54,280 Speaker 1: we can say they are a good team that's playing 1275 01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,880 Speaker 1: very poorly. I don't think they're very good. And we 1276 01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,120 Speaker 1: can say we like to mitrof and we like Quinn, 1277 01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:01,360 Speaker 1: and we do, but we don't like the product they've 1278 01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,280 Speaker 1: put on the field since the Super Bowl since Kyle Shanahan. 1279 01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:06,120 Speaker 1: The next year, I did, the next year, I did, 1280 01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:09,120 Speaker 1: but with Sarkasian's lost offense that year, I mean ever 1281 01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,880 Speaker 1: since Kyle Shanahan's left, What what is this team's identity? Well, 1282 01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,320 Speaker 1: and Quinn has talked about, you know, his defense, like Seattle, 1283 01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:18,040 Speaker 1: is going to be urgent, fast, disruptive and it. Mariota 1284 01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:20,520 Speaker 1: looked terrible in the Jaguars game, which feels like two 1285 01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:23,480 Speaker 1: years ago, because Jacksonville piled up nine sacks in that 1286 01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,479 Speaker 1: game and made life about as impossible as you could 1287 01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,680 Speaker 1: on the quarterback. None for the Falcons Today, Mariotta was 1288 01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,439 Speaker 1: kept clean on the subject of the Falcons. They did 1289 01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,840 Speaker 1: to their credit or as an organization and to the 1290 01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:38,760 Speaker 1: players and and Dan Quinn. They did recover from that 1291 01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:43,960 Speaker 1: absolutely staggeringly terrible Super Bowl loss. Pass away from beating 1292 01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:46,520 Speaker 1: the Eagle at the KYL s in l A. When 1293 01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,080 Speaker 1: they beat a very good Rams team in the wild 1294 01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,960 Speaker 1: card round. They were, but really, since the moment Julio 1295 01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:55,120 Speaker 1: Jones slipped in the end zone in Philadelphia in that 1296 01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:57,480 Speaker 1: Division round playoff, it has just been kind of a 1297 01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:00,160 Speaker 1: sad slog for the Falcons. And I know they put 1298 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,320 Speaker 1: up a lot of good numbers last year offensively, but 1299 01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:04,760 Speaker 1: this doesn't. It doesn't feel like this team has juice 1300 01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,400 Speaker 1: right now. And not sorry, they remind me of the Panthers, 1301 01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:09,800 Speaker 1: who it's just a reminder of how impossible it is 1302 01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:11,760 Speaker 1: to get back to the super Bowl. And you can 1303 01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:13,920 Speaker 1: still be competent, but it's not nearly good enough. I 1304 01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:17,520 Speaker 1: think you can watched teams like the Broncos, Bengals, of Vikings, 1305 01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:19,640 Speaker 1: and Falcons and get frustrated with all four of them 1306 01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,120 Speaker 1: for the same reason. The offensive line is blowing things up. 1307 01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,520 Speaker 1: Quinn's gotta make a new T shirt. Yeah, they did 1308 01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,960 Speaker 1: this brotherhood one where they're all holding each other this 1309 01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:31,480 Speaker 1: last week didn't work. Who the Titans seven next week? 1310 01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:34,120 Speaker 1: A lot of T shirts I cannot wait to see. 1311 01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,960 Speaker 1: I think some of the angry Falcon T shirt now 1312 01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,720 Speaker 1: let's see the Titans have the Bills. Oh, that's pretty 1313 01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:45,000 Speaker 1: good at home, Josh Allen. We'll see if he's playing. 1314 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:46,880 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're if your thing is you're looking 1315 01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:51,080 Speaker 1: for a back down turn it Bills. Well, not necessarily. 1316 01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,640 Speaker 1: They could Barkley in Nashville. They could put two or 1317 01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:56,240 Speaker 1: three good games together. What they need to do is 1318 01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:58,560 Speaker 1: show they could sustain. You know what I'm talking about. 1319 01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,360 Speaker 1: They're gonna they're gonn real me back in for a game. 1320 01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,120 Speaker 1: They don't need to stay in that range where they 1321 01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:07,240 Speaker 1: can get to nine. That's the goal. That cannot be 1322 01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,240 Speaker 1: the goal. The goal was supposed to be better than nine, 1323 01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:11,760 Speaker 1: but this seems to be their face. Credit to their 1324 01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,440 Speaker 1: secondary today too, which really controlled the game and held 1325 01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,720 Speaker 1: Julio Jones down for a while. Titans defense look good today. 1326 01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,080 Speaker 1: You know what I mean though, Greg Right, I don't 1327 01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:23,720 Speaker 1: mean to be uh overly passionate about it, but when 1328 01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,840 Speaker 1: you talk about how you really feel bad for the Falcons, 1329 01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:29,720 Speaker 1: you know, as a Patriots fan, you did this dune 1330 01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:36,880 Speaker 1: you created. I didn't anything. I didn't do any remember 1331 01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:40,240 Speaker 1: the photo in the box, I mean, the evil you had. 1332 01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:42,280 Speaker 1: We'll have to reservice that. It was, well, I don't 1333 01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:49,440 Speaker 1: even remember what which Patriots winning Super Bowl? Seattle satisfac alright, 1334 01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:53,640 Speaker 1: not evil satisfied Grid. Alright, let's keep moving. A thirty 1335 01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:56,240 Speaker 1: three yarder from just inside the left hash the Lambo. 1336 01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,960 Speaker 1: Here we go, Broke gets it down, Lambo kicks it 1337 01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:05,320 Speaker 1: up and field goal is good. Good. The field have 1338 01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:10,440 Speaker 1: beaten the Denver Bronco took four mile high stadium. This 1339 01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:16,240 Speaker 1: one belongs to do alright, right, Cranty, I like it. John. 1340 01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:20,719 Speaker 1: By the way, update breaking news. Mark saw the movie 1341 01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:29,320 Speaker 1: Sirens with j Los Sirens. Yeah, it was totally different films. Well, 1342 01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:30,960 Speaker 1: I want everyone to know that the scale has been 1343 01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,519 Speaker 1: balanced out because I just thought it because Josh Lambo. 1344 01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,879 Speaker 1: Mark told us today that he saw Rambo in the theaters. 1345 01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:41,639 Speaker 1: Everything's even Rambo colon Last Blood and I'm not gonna 1346 01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,360 Speaker 1: By the way, last Blood is the stupidest name of 1347 01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:48,920 Speaker 1: the movie ever. I know there was First Blood. It's thematic. 1348 01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,360 Speaker 1: If you're looking for stupid, it was. But I kind 1349 01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:54,559 Speaker 1: of enjoyed the film to be first Blood last Blood. 1350 01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:56,640 Speaker 1: If you enjoyed it, I did because I went in 1351 01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:58,960 Speaker 1: thinking this is just gonna be ninety minutes of total 1352 01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:02,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's like last Blood until they cut off 1353 01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:05,120 Speaker 1: you know, stallone Social Security, then we'll go like last 1354 01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,600 Speaker 1: their blood. I don't think he's coming back from this 1355 01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:11,560 Speaker 1: one based on what I saw. But Josh Lambo not 1356 01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,960 Speaker 1: John Rambo went four for four on the day, including 1357 01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:17,280 Speaker 1: that game winner as time expired, lifting the Jacks to 1358 01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:23,320 Speaker 1: win over the still winless the moribund Denver broncos Gardner 1359 01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:26,400 Speaker 1: Minshew heated up in the fourth quarter after a slow start. 1360 01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:30,840 Speaker 1: Leonard four Nette had a career day with two yards 1361 01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:34,040 Speaker 1: on the ground on twenty nine carries. Mark Jalen Ramsey 1362 01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:36,599 Speaker 1: heroically he was able to summon the energy to come 1363 01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:38,640 Speaker 1: out of his home and be on the sidelines of 1364 01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:41,360 Speaker 1: this game. For this game, Uh well, he got a 1365 01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:43,280 Speaker 1: good show, We got an up close view and another 1366 01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:45,680 Speaker 1: exciting Jaguars win. He did. I've mentioned before that his 1367 01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,240 Speaker 1: focus is a laser focus and he he was zoned 1368 01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:50,600 Speaker 1: in on this game watching it from the sideline. Was 1369 01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:52,479 Speaker 1: he was he in a hospital bed on the sideline 1370 01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:54,040 Speaker 1: or was he able to stick up right? Where is he? 1371 01:09:54,160 --> 01:10:01,679 Speaker 1: Bat at? Physically? Seemed uh nimble and I was child 1372 01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:06,040 Speaker 1: It's not like they made that up that had a daughter. Man. 1373 01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,519 Speaker 1: This game, and you know, it makes it look the 1374 01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:14,120 Speaker 1: score a little closer than it was, because you'd be 1375 01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:17,880 Speaker 1: hard pressed to find a contest where one team was 1376 01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:21,439 Speaker 1: as thoroughly dominated for a twenty minute stretch as Denver 1377 01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:25,880 Speaker 1: was in this contest. They they flat go through two 1378 01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:28,200 Speaker 1: early touchdowns that made you think this is the perfect 1379 01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,240 Speaker 1: way for Denver to get out of their own three hole, 1380 01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,040 Speaker 1: and Nick Chubb von Miller came to life. They sack 1381 01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:37,040 Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew five times today, but before the half, flat 1382 01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:40,680 Speaker 1: go through an unforgivable pick that allowed the Jaguars to 1383 01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,000 Speaker 1: go down kick a field goal, and I believe that 1384 01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:45,479 Speaker 1: made it seventeen to six at the half. And then 1385 01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,320 Speaker 1: from there, Jacksonville came out of the locker room and 1386 01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:53,519 Speaker 1: absolutely dominated with a sixteen play touchdown drive. At one 1387 01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:56,160 Speaker 1: point in the going heading into the fourth quarter, they 1388 01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:58,559 Speaker 1: had held the ball for like thirteen and a half minutes. 1389 01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,040 Speaker 1: Denver was offense just taken out of the game. They 1390 01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,600 Speaker 1: weren't even allowed to come onto the field basically. And 1391 01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:07,040 Speaker 1: it was Leonard four Nette, the laughing stock of Thursday 1392 01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:12,160 Speaker 1: Night Football to thursdays ago, who dominated Denver's tired out defense. 1393 01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:15,760 Speaker 1: I think Denver's defense just got winded and exhausted by 1394 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,640 Speaker 1: the end of this game, and they this allowed the 1395 01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:22,599 Speaker 1: running game. Jacksonville's ground game to absolutely explode late, which 1396 01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:26,679 Speaker 1: helped Minshew a lot. But Minshew also, despite getting hassled 1397 01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:28,519 Speaker 1: and he was on the run a bunch, showed some 1398 01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:31,120 Speaker 1: great movement in the pocket in this game. There's one 1399 01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:34,760 Speaker 1: play where he unfurled the completion, but he had to 1400 01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:37,080 Speaker 1: change direction in the pocket and climbing out of it 1401 01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:40,919 Speaker 1: like five or six times. And I am so impressed 1402 01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:44,360 Speaker 1: with he really did. I was so impressed with him because, yes, 1403 01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:46,519 Speaker 1: I know he is a nice mustache and all this business, 1404 01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:48,439 Speaker 1: and and you know they're milking that for all it's worth, 1405 01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:51,880 Speaker 1: and that's fine, but he is a player that gives 1406 01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:54,120 Speaker 1: me hope that in the in the a f C South, 1407 01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,960 Speaker 1: which is a weird division, I'm not counting them out. 1408 01:11:57,160 --> 01:12:01,720 Speaker 1: The reverse they when their defense did what it did 1409 01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,320 Speaker 1: against Tennessee where they're dropping nine sacks, they didn't happen. 1410 01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:07,040 Speaker 1: That didn't happen today. But they stepped stepped up around 1411 01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:10,000 Speaker 1: their quarterback and produced in a tough place to play. 1412 01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:11,720 Speaker 1: I don't care if the Bronchos are owing four or not. 1413 01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,599 Speaker 1: That's a tough stadium to go into, and they came 1414 01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:17,000 Speaker 1: and delivered. It was go watch that third quarter. Total, 1415 01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:20,559 Speaker 1: he's been streaky, but when he's gotten hot, he's saved 1416 01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,360 Speaker 1: their season, basically because they could have been dead in 1417 01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:25,960 Speaker 1: the water after their starting quarterback goes out in Week 1418 01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:28,439 Speaker 1: one and instead he's a guy that while not a 1419 01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:31,519 Speaker 1: perfect quarterback and usually six round picks are not perfect, 1420 01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:35,080 Speaker 1: he seems to have a little bit of just he's 1421 01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:37,360 Speaker 1: not making mistakes and I think they're doing a good 1422 01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:39,559 Speaker 1: job calling plays for him. John d Filippo. He does 1423 01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:42,200 Speaker 1: not go down the field very often, but he doesn't 1424 01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,400 Speaker 1: put them in bad situations, and when they do go 1425 01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,879 Speaker 1: down the field, it's very effective. In time of possession 1426 01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:51,000 Speaker 1: in general is overrated, but when you get when you 1427 01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:54,160 Speaker 1: have forty minutes time of possession and it's almost all 1428 01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:57,720 Speaker 1: that advantages in the second half, there something happens to 1429 01:12:57,840 --> 01:12:59,519 Speaker 1: your defense and they and they went up and down 1430 01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:01,439 Speaker 1: the fens of the is the defense This was going 1431 01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:04,320 Speaker 1: to be, you know, the defense their game that you've 1432 01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:07,240 Speaker 1: waited for from Dick Fonio, and instead what you remember 1433 01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:09,679 Speaker 1: is that they absolutely got gashed down the down the stretch. 1434 01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:12,240 Speaker 1: Every time I looked up in this game, d J. 1435 01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:14,639 Speaker 1: Chark was having a big play taken away by penalty. 1436 01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:17,280 Speaker 1: It's been every week. Well it's phenomenal, but but he is. 1437 01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:20,840 Speaker 1: His connection with Minshew has been consistent. And forget D. D. 1438 01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:24,080 Speaker 1: Westbrook and the rest of him, he's the dude is Minshew. 1439 01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:27,080 Speaker 1: And I don't want to undersell his his future and 1440 01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:29,519 Speaker 1: he's obviously just starting out in the league. Is he 1441 01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:34,360 Speaker 1: potentially that the next generation Ryan's fitz Ryan Fitzpatrick like 1442 01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:38,840 Speaker 1: a fun perfect Well, I'm just saying Fitzpatrick is you know, 1443 01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,080 Speaker 1: thirteen years later or whatever it's been. Is had a 1444 01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,240 Speaker 1: lot of great moments in his career. Not a champion 1445 01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:46,599 Speaker 1: or anything. But I mean, even if that is his ceiling, Uh, 1446 01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:48,840 Speaker 1: that would I think the Jaguars would sign up for that, 1447 01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:52,240 Speaker 1: considering uh what what what they were entering the season with. Well, 1448 01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:54,200 Speaker 1: let's put it this way, He's just created a ten 1449 01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,280 Speaker 1: year career for himself one way or the other. Right, 1450 01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:59,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to undersell his upside because if a 1451 01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:01,120 Speaker 1: first round pick k men and played the four games 1452 01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:03,920 Speaker 1: that he did, we we'd be you know, writing tea 1453 01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:07,800 Speaker 1: poems about him. They used Mark Sessler's phraseology. The Bills 1454 01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:10,880 Speaker 1: signed fits Fitzpatrick to that like sixty years, sixty million 1455 01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:12,760 Speaker 1: dollar contract at one point, and they only lasted a 1456 01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:15,280 Speaker 1: couple of years. But nobody really ever saw him as 1457 01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:18,320 Speaker 1: the franchise guy. There's a chance that Minshew could develop 1458 01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:20,519 Speaker 1: into well, there is a little tea boat about him, 1459 01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:22,679 Speaker 1: especially seeing them win on a game that it didn't 1460 01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:24,120 Speaker 1: look like they were gonna win on a field goal 1461 01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:27,519 Speaker 1: in Denver. It not the you know, the mania around 1462 01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:30,040 Speaker 1: him or whatever, but just that they're finding ways to 1463 01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,720 Speaker 1: win these these crazy sort of games and it's like 1464 01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:34,800 Speaker 1: the close I don't doubt I would say that the 1465 01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:37,960 Speaker 1: mania with the looks and the all this other business 1466 01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:41,080 Speaker 1: around it is. Actually it does him a disservice because 1467 01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:44,160 Speaker 1: you think that that's why everyone is hyper focused on him, 1468 01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:45,800 Speaker 1: that's why a bunch of people are But if you 1469 01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:47,280 Speaker 1: took all that away and just looked at the way 1470 01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:49,400 Speaker 1: he plays, and if he were to your point at 1471 01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:51,640 Speaker 1: the draft pedigree had been there, people would be going 1472 01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:53,559 Speaker 1: absolutely nuts about who he is. On the fifth Nick 1473 01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:56,439 Speaker 1: Foles was playing like Gardner Minshew, people be like, all right, 1474 01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:58,479 Speaker 1: the Jags are in great shape. They've got their quarterback 1475 01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:01,560 Speaker 1: UM and Mark you you saw the game, so you 1476 01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:03,679 Speaker 1: have a better idea of it. You said, the Broncos 1477 01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:07,080 Speaker 1: defense looked gassed at the end of the game, So 1478 01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:09,400 Speaker 1: I won't. I can't kill them having not watched the game, 1479 01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:11,599 Speaker 1: but I will just make a stop. I will point 1480 01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:15,840 Speaker 1: out UH Joe Flacco for all his UM ups and 1481 01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:19,519 Speaker 1: downs this year. UH takes them down the field late 1482 01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,360 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter six place, seventy five yards, eight 1483 01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:27,000 Speaker 1: yard touchdown pass. It's with ninety two seconds to go. 1484 01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:31,679 Speaker 1: And just like the Steelers last week, when you thought 1485 01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:33,720 Speaker 1: that their defense would be able to close out a 1486 01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,240 Speaker 1: game that they desperately needed, you would think that the 1487 01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:39,120 Speaker 1: Broncos defense would summon that to be able to get 1488 01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:42,000 Speaker 1: out of here with the win. But there I I 1489 01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:45,200 Speaker 1: would imagine Broncos fans are very upset about a roughing 1490 01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:47,960 Speaker 1: the pastor call on von Miller that sprung Jacksonville for 1491 01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:51,120 Speaker 1: that game winning drive. But it was a fair call, 1492 01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:54,080 Speaker 1: I think. And then on top of it, they gave 1493 01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:57,080 Speaker 1: up a huge chunk run and Minshew made Keith rows 1494 01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:59,320 Speaker 1: and that was the whole second half Outside of Miami. 1495 01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:03,400 Speaker 1: That might be the most depressing UH season ticket to own. 1496 01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,160 Speaker 1: Right now, you've seen two games. In both of them 1497 01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:09,120 Speaker 1: you've lost that the buzzer on a field goal, and 1498 01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:12,000 Speaker 1: both of them your quarterback, who hasn't been that great overall, 1499 01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:16,120 Speaker 1: has to go ahead touchdown pass with a minute remaining. 1500 01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:18,479 Speaker 1: You still lose. You can't kill Flacco and that he 1501 01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:20,920 Speaker 1: becomes lazy to do it week after week. But there 1502 01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,439 Speaker 1: is something also about him where just I don't know, 1503 01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:26,160 Speaker 1: there's a sense of he's not inspirational, not at all. 1504 01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:28,559 Speaker 1: Just the guy at this point, right, is that kind 1505 01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:29,720 Speaker 1: of what it is? He's just kind of a guy 1506 01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:34,320 Speaker 1: down right? Yeah, Man Rivers climbs the pocket, bind Zackler 1507 01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:37,080 Speaker 1: left sideline, one man to beat five into the touchdown, 1508 01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:40,600 Speaker 1: chargers into the end zone for Austin Ekeler. It was 1509 01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:43,880 Speaker 1: a hesitation by the official. He strums the guitar and 1510 01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:46,040 Speaker 1: the chargers put six on the board. By the way, 1511 01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:49,400 Speaker 1: that receiving touchdown means that he has now posted at 1512 01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:51,600 Speaker 1: least three in each of his proceedsons. That is the 1513 01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:54,120 Speaker 1: first time an undrafted running back has done it in 1514 01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:57,960 Speaker 1: the common draft ERI since nineteen seven. See by the way, 1515 01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,120 Speaker 1: you don't I owe thought this. You don't need move 1516 01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:05,000 Speaker 1: the sticks in that Daniel Jeremiah is the color guy. Well, 1517 01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:07,479 Speaker 1: guess what Matt money does a ball he can He'll 1518 01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:09,800 Speaker 1: give you the highlight and then he'll give you the 1519 01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:14,040 Speaker 1: insight and then and the data. So what, it's totally 1520 01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:16,960 Speaker 1: redundant to have moved the sticks paid by the charges. 1521 01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,920 Speaker 1: Some would move the sticks. Hearing this might argue that 1522 01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:23,120 Speaker 1: hit hit what you know, don't don't step on his 1523 01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:25,840 Speaker 1: part of the role here, but fair enough, I don't 1524 01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:27,799 Speaker 1: like what you're doing there. You're trying to create dissension. 1525 01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:30,519 Speaker 1: I think Matt made it very clear. Matt money Smith 1526 01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:33,240 Speaker 1: the voice of the Around the NFL podcast, what's going 1527 01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:38,280 Speaker 1: on in that? Philip Brother rivers through yards and two touchdowns? 1528 01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,120 Speaker 1: That was like his moment. He was like, that's what 1529 01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:43,160 Speaker 1: I can do. He's like, I'm getting on the eight 1530 01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:49,120 Speaker 1: ten podcast Forget you Sticks. He's been Scully Sticks ever 1531 01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:51,920 Speaker 1: his voice ever been included in any of these Chargers 1532 01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:54,599 Speaker 1: highlights that we've done very briefly, and I've instructed Erica 1533 01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:57,760 Speaker 1: to avoid it when possible. Philip rivers through for three 1534 01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,599 Speaker 1: ten yards and two touchdowns, including that eight seniord hook 1535 01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:04,800 Speaker 1: up with Austin Ekeler. Charges Crews win over. Now, I'm 1536 01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:06,920 Speaker 1: not gonna say it, because they don't even deserve that. 1537 01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:12,479 Speaker 1: The miserable Miami Dolphins. Greg The Chargers had rough losses 1538 01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:14,599 Speaker 1: in each of the past two weeks. Luckily the scheduled 1539 01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:17,920 Speaker 1: gods gifted them Sunday with potentially the worst NFL team 1540 01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:21,120 Speaker 1: of all time. Yeah, and and the Dolphins showed in 1541 01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:23,200 Speaker 1: this game for the second straight week that they can 1542 01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:26,679 Speaker 1: be competitive for a half. And they could have easily 1543 01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,519 Speaker 1: had the lead after one half of this game, just 1544 01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:33,000 Speaker 1: like against Dallas. But but they didn't. And then it's 1545 01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:36,240 Speaker 1: like the other team gets down to business. The Miami 1546 01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:39,639 Speaker 1: Dolphins has had twenty one drives in the second half 1547 01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:43,200 Speaker 1: of games this year. On those twenty one drives, they 1548 01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,720 Speaker 1: have failed to score a point. I mean, this is 1549 01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:51,960 Speaker 1: the NFL we're talking about. It's it's it's outrageous. I 1550 01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:53,599 Speaker 1: don't know what more of there is to say. Melvin 1551 01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:56,360 Speaker 1: Ingram got hurt in this game. That's a concern. Melvin 1552 01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:58,679 Speaker 1: Gordon did not play in this game, so he was active, 1553 01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:02,000 Speaker 1: but they an emergency, did not you need to use him. 1554 01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:04,880 Speaker 1: And Philip Rivers did what he does, which which is 1555 01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:08,280 Speaker 1: an underrated part of his skill set. He improvises really well, 1556 01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:10,559 Speaker 1: and you don't think of him as kind of an 1557 01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:13,760 Speaker 1: improv guy. But that Austin Ekeler touchdown, for instance, was 1558 01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:16,640 Speaker 1: him moving up looking to his fourth read, and he 1559 01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:19,360 Speaker 1: just kind of makes something out of nothing on a 1560 01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:21,400 Speaker 1: lot of these plays, and that that's all he needed 1561 01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:25,280 Speaker 1: to do. The Dolphins point differential of minus one seven 1562 01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:27,920 Speaker 1: is the worst three four games of season since at 1563 01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:34,479 Speaker 1: least nineteen forty. The previous worst nineteen Redskins minus one two. 1564 01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:36,559 Speaker 1: So the Dolphins have blown them out of the water. 1565 01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:38,840 Speaker 1: I mean, they are going to set some records, not 1566 01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:40,960 Speaker 1: the ones that they were. They're gonna be tweeting out 1567 01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:43,920 Speaker 1: for the next and again, Rose like Rosen started out 1568 01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:46,879 Speaker 1: the game well six or six two yards and a touchdown. 1569 01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:48,800 Speaker 1: They didn't punt or turn the ball over in the 1570 01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:51,880 Speaker 1: first half. I mean, their offense played pretty well in 1571 01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:55,760 Speaker 1: the first half. And still when you look at this 1572 01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:58,200 Speaker 1: Dolphins team, I think maybe the most frustrating thing is 1573 01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:00,720 Speaker 1: all the guys that in theory would you would want 1574 01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:04,320 Speaker 1: to be core guys are playing terrible. I mean, Charles Harris, 1575 01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:07,960 Speaker 1: their defensive end is doing nothing, Kalen Blige is doing nothing. 1576 01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:12,280 Speaker 1: Jerome Baker and the cfl Um linebacker that they were 1577 01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:16,479 Speaker 1: all excited going into the season. They're not playing well 1578 01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:18,880 Speaker 1: like the the young guys who you would want to 1579 01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:22,200 Speaker 1: be building around are are some of the most disappointing players. 1580 01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:24,600 Speaker 1: And so that's like an extra layer of pain for 1581 01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:27,160 Speaker 1: this team that was. That's now a hundred and twenty 1582 01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:29,599 Speaker 1: regular season wins for Phil Rivers, the first he ever 1583 01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:33,960 Speaker 1: had in Miami. His quote, it has been a long time. Myself, 1584 01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,760 Speaker 1: I haven't played worth a hoot. They're the last two 1585 01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:39,120 Speaker 1: times rough days for us. It was good to win 1586 01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:45,360 Speaker 1: it bad. You know, this game was a hoot. Yeah, 1587 01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:47,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. Just rolling up on him, I mean, 1588 01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:50,839 Speaker 1: he was about perfect today. Sunday Night Football. The seconds 1589 01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:52,760 Speaker 1: left on the park is to be the last player 1590 01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:55,759 Speaker 1: of the game. Jack Prescott in the gun, three seasons 1591 01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:58,679 Speaker 1: to the far side, takes the snap, say spring five. 1592 01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:01,519 Speaker 1: Prescott's on is this one. It's not even gonna get 1593 01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:05,000 Speaker 1: to the end zone. It has intercepted. Marcus william and 1594 01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:08,360 Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints take this one from the Dallas 1595 01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:15,200 Speaker 1: Cowboys twelve to ten on a phenomenal defensive performance. Oh yes, 1596 01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:20,960 Speaker 1: Marcus Williams, there is life after the Minneapolis miracle, Zack 1597 01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:26,160 Speaker 1: Street Saints Radio Network with the call an excellent defensive 1598 01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:29,160 Speaker 1: effort by New Orleans who get that final stop on 1599 01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:32,960 Speaker 1: the Dak Prescott tail Mary closing it out a twelve 1600 01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:36,160 Speaker 1: to ten win over the Dallas Cowboys on Sunday Night Football, 1601 01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:40,320 Speaker 1: a game in which Teddy Bridgewater again stepping in for 1602 01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:43,599 Speaker 1: Drew Brees. The Saints didn't light it up on offense, 1603 01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:46,840 Speaker 1: but west when they needed the defense to step up, 1604 01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,760 Speaker 1: they sure did, and a great Cowboys offense really had 1605 01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:52,599 Speaker 1: no answers tonight. We were questioning a few weeks ago 1606 01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:54,880 Speaker 1: if they should be going with Taysom Hill instead of 1607 01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:58,479 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater, and Teddy hasn't played great, but this team 1608 01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:00,599 Speaker 1: is now two and o with upbre in. The two 1609 01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:04,320 Speaker 1: teams they've beaten haven't lost anyone else. I think Saints 1610 01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:06,599 Speaker 1: fans would have been happy splitting these last two games 1611 01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:08,640 Speaker 1: if you told them that a few weeks ago. And 1612 01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:11,280 Speaker 1: now they're sitting pretty and you can't say enough about 1613 01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:15,280 Speaker 1: their defense, their leadership, their coaches. To to win against 1614 01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:17,560 Speaker 1: on the road at Seattle, and then to beat a 1615 01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:20,920 Speaker 1: Dallas team that looked gangbusters through three weeks, it is 1616 01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:23,000 Speaker 1: to come to come down an earth game for the 1617 01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:26,760 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore in this Cowboys offense, I mean any thought that, Okay, hey, 1618 01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:29,680 Speaker 1: we haven't really we played three of the worst defenses 1619 01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:32,080 Speaker 1: in the league, and now they come out, they put 1620 01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:34,559 Speaker 1: up ten points, They put up two d fifty yards. 1621 01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:38,400 Speaker 1: This is very similar to the Cowboys Saints game last year, 1622 01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:41,000 Speaker 1: which was thirteen to ten. This is twelve to ten. 1623 01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:44,200 Speaker 1: Both games had under five hundred yards of total offense. 1624 01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:46,679 Speaker 1: Neither of these teams moved the ball. But the Saints 1625 01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:48,360 Speaker 1: are loving it because I think the Saints and what 1626 01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:50,880 Speaker 1: we saw today with the Bucks game, and we saw 1627 01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:53,960 Speaker 1: in Packers Eagles, and we've seen you have to be 1628 01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:56,880 Speaker 1: able to win different sorts of games. I think there's 1629 01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:59,680 Speaker 1: no you're not gonna win just with defense or just 1630 01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:02,200 Speaker 1: with the offense. You've gotta be able to adapt. And 1631 01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:05,000 Speaker 1: the Saints have shown that they can win with Chimara 1632 01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:08,000 Speaker 1: and a little bit of magic, a little bit of 1633 01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:12,599 Speaker 1: situational football. I thought that against Seattle in Seattle last week, 1634 01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:15,919 Speaker 1: the Saints control the line of scrimmage with their defense 1635 01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:19,519 Speaker 1: early and they made life very tough for Seattle's ground game. 1636 01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:22,439 Speaker 1: And then in this it translates again one point nine 1637 01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:25,880 Speaker 1: yards per carry for Zekiel who never plot unhooked. And 1638 01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:28,719 Speaker 1: the Saints teams of olds that we covered for years. 1639 01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:31,439 Speaker 1: If you said New Orleans is gonna score twelve points 1640 01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:33,720 Speaker 1: of Teddy Bridgewater, no way do they win those games. 1641 01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:37,000 Speaker 1: They're a much more balanced team. They're well built in 1642 01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:39,679 Speaker 1: any victory with Teddy Bridgewater at quarterback, it's a coude 1643 01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:41,840 Speaker 1: at this point to go to and Oh on this 1644 01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:44,479 Speaker 1: journey so far, they're gonna run away with this division 1645 01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:46,439 Speaker 1: if they keep like we said. Teddy was up and 1646 01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:49,599 Speaker 1: down in this game, and his worst moment UH came 1647 01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:53,720 Speaker 1: in his final possession, his last snap. They are in 1648 01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:57,280 Speaker 1: field goal range up two points UH, and he gets 1649 01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:01,800 Speaker 1: overwhelmed by a strong uh Dallas pass rush, loses about 1650 01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,840 Speaker 1: fourteen yards on a sack. Instead of having Will Lutts, 1651 01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:07,880 Speaker 1: who's almost automatic, attempting to put you up five, you 1652 01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:10,400 Speaker 1: have to punt it away and the Cowboys take over 1653 01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:14,160 Speaker 1: fairly deep in their own end. However, in addition to 1654 01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:16,680 Speaker 1: the failure to get into field goal range, as you 1655 01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:21,280 Speaker 1: heard the interception there that sealed the game. Tyrone Smith, 1656 01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:24,320 Speaker 1: the star left tackle for the Cowboys, Jerry Jones said 1657 01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:27,040 Speaker 1: after the game has a high ankle sprain, and we 1658 01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:29,880 Speaker 1: talked about high uncle springs a terrible injury because you 1659 01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,080 Speaker 1: never know how how much time it could cost you. 1660 01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:34,800 Speaker 1: But they tend to linger. It's the same type of 1661 01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:37,760 Speaker 1: injury that se Quon Barkley has. Well. Now, uh, the 1662 01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:41,280 Speaker 1: blindside protector of the vaunted Dallas offensive line could be 1663 01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:43,240 Speaker 1: on the shelf for some time. We'll have to see 1664 01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:45,800 Speaker 1: how that plays out. That's that is a massive lot. 1665 01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:48,400 Speaker 1: I mean, that was a terrible moment for the Cowboys 1666 01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:51,080 Speaker 1: and they play against the Darius Smith and Preston Smith 1667 01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:53,240 Speaker 1: in that Green Bay Packers defense next week. I mean, 1668 01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:55,160 Speaker 1: that's so that's why we like the NFL. It flips 1669 01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:58,200 Speaker 1: pretty quickly that the Cowboys suddenly okay, they've they've got 1670 01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:00,519 Speaker 1: some issues to work out, the Saints of feeling good. 1671 01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:03,640 Speaker 1: I liked what Daniel Jeremiah I know, um, you know 1672 01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:07,400 Speaker 1: you've taken some shots at him Dan on this episode. 1673 01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:11,479 Speaker 1: I liked what he tweeted earlier today, which was essentially, 1674 01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:16,040 Speaker 1: don't put much stock into the previous month. What's happened 1675 01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:19,320 Speaker 1: the preseason sort of over that most of these teams 1676 01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:21,479 Speaker 1: and the players have knocked the rust off. You've kind 1677 01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:23,439 Speaker 1: of put out the tape, the tape into the ether, 1678 01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:26,400 Speaker 1: like Kellen Moore that now other teams have a feel 1679 01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:29,519 Speaker 1: of Okay, what's this team doing this year? And moving 1680 01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:31,719 Speaker 1: forward you kind of this is where we start learning 1681 01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:33,280 Speaker 1: about teams. I think there's a lot to that. You 1682 01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:35,800 Speaker 1: don't like to think that the last month was meaningless, 1683 01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:38,040 Speaker 1: but there's some of that that the teams are going 1684 01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:39,960 Speaker 1: to be so different. And that's why, especially for the 1685 01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:41,920 Speaker 1: Saints team that doesn't have breeze, it doesn't matter how 1686 01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:44,040 Speaker 1: you're winning these games, just stacking up wins. His math 1687 01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:46,639 Speaker 1: be as ugly as you need to be get to win, 1688 01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:48,760 Speaker 1: and like at just the fact that that division is 1689 01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:51,320 Speaker 1: crumbling around them to some degree. To the Bucks next 1690 01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:54,240 Speaker 1: week that Teddy Teddy said to Michelle Tafoya after the game, 1691 01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:57,000 Speaker 1: no one said it had to be pretty. It was not. 1692 01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:00,680 Speaker 1: But the Saints are feeling good right now and as 1693 01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:03,760 Speaker 1: we hit the quarter pole of the season, and we're 1694 01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:05,519 Speaker 1: gonna talk more about it this week on the Around 1695 01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:08,080 Speaker 1: the NFL podcast, which is the show we're doing right now. 1696 01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:09,720 Speaker 1: I don't know I'm saying it like I'm talking about 1697 01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:14,280 Speaker 1: a different show. This is the round. The NFL is 1698 01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:18,800 Speaker 1: so wide open after this preseason part two. Once you 1699 01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:21,040 Speaker 1: get past the only two undefeated team, well there's three, 1700 01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:24,160 Speaker 1: including the Niners, but the Patriots in chiefs. It's really 1701 01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:26,360 Speaker 1: hard to figure out who's the true power players. But 1702 01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:29,280 Speaker 1: a Saints performance like this with Drew Brees getting closer, 1703 01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:32,519 Speaker 1: you feel confident having them obviously in that conversation, and 1704 01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:35,880 Speaker 1: the Cowboys as well, winner lose today, uh, you feel 1705 01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:38,880 Speaker 1: good that these are two the best teams in the league. Absolutely. 1706 01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:40,800 Speaker 1: I think when you look at the league as a whole, 1707 01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:43,439 Speaker 1: is there even a third good team in the a 1708 01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:46,000 Speaker 1: f C. That's a question I would have. Well, I 1709 01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:48,960 Speaker 1: also want to see the Cowboys like perform against other 1710 01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:54,080 Speaker 1: competent defenses in the roster. Is we know this this 1711 01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:56,200 Speaker 1: is a playoff caliber team. I don't think one loss 1712 01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:58,760 Speaker 1: at New Orleans changes, but I want to see their 1713 01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:02,439 Speaker 1: offense against more quality defense, just absolutely to see what 1714 01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:04,640 Speaker 1: they do. And I wouldn't worry about records at this 1715 01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:07,200 Speaker 1: point at all, because I take a Philadelphia Eagles team 1716 01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:09,840 Speaker 1: over other teams with better records right now because they've 1717 01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:11,680 Speaker 1: played through a lot of ups and downs and they 1718 01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:14,240 Speaker 1: what they did in Green Bay was huge. Okay, program 1719 01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:17,800 Speaker 1: note before we sign off, a reminder that a week 1720 01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:23,759 Speaker 1: from Friday, October eleven at the Curtain and Shortitch, London, England. 1721 01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:27,320 Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast is live and tickets go on 1722 01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:33,519 Speaker 1: sale Tuesday this Tuesday, seven pm GMT plus one. I 1723 01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:35,559 Speaker 1: don't know what that means. I'm just reading the copy 1724 01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:38,320 Speaker 1: and I hope it's very clear what that means, seven 1725 01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:42,160 Speaker 1: pm GMT plus one on Tuesday, tickets go on sale. 1726 01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:45,680 Speaker 1: Where do we have a We have a link yet 1727 01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,920 Speaker 1: it has not been announced yet, so where can people 1728 01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:50,720 Speaker 1: find it? Where will you should be looking at our 1729 01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:56,960 Speaker 1: our socials personals. We will, we will make you have 1730 01:27:57,000 --> 01:28:00,840 Speaker 1: another show or two. Tickets will go quickly, so be 1731 01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:07,000 Speaker 1: sharp on Tuesday. All right, that's it. Then hands a 1732 01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:09,519 Speaker 1: signing off for Quiet Storm, the Mailman, the Old Boss, 1733 01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:14,320 Speaker 1: Ricky Hollywood, Ryan Bartlett and the whole team behind the glass. 1734 01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:59,560 Speaker 1: Thank you to everyone until Tuesday. M