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Speaker 1: at mya Bob's dot Com. So, the Giants are playing

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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans this week. The last time Houston came

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Speaker 1: to met like Steadie was way back in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and fourteen and the Giants beat the Texans thirty to seventeen.

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Speaker 1: And our guest on this podcast is the man who

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Speaker 1: carried the water that day, the one, the only Rashad

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Speaker 1: Jennings who just tuned him up for a hundred and

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Speaker 1: seventy six yards in a touchdown. Rash How are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm good, man, I'm good hearing that stat bring bring

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Speaker 1: me back to the men in the backfield. Man, that's

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Speaker 1: a good that's a good thing to hear. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit about that day because um,

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Speaker 1: you know you guys scored fourteen points. In the second quarter,

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Speaker 1: Victor had a twenty six yard touchdown catch Victor Cruse

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Speaker 1: to make it seven nothing. You get a one yard

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Speaker 1: ripping off gigantic chunks either in the ball game. I

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Speaker 1: mean you had a lot of carries that day. As

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the stats, they fed you the rock

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Speaker 1: Man thirty four times. Yeah, and that was something I

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Speaker 1: I think that like twenty five yards maybe the longest

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Speaker 1: a grind. We grinded it out. They trusted in the run.

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Speaker 1: We stuck to it. Um. Hey, well, I think it

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Speaker 1: was early in the season two that that particular game,

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Speaker 1: and that was something I remember asking Coughlin, Listen, we

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Speaker 1: gotta grind this thing out. Man. You brought me here

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Speaker 1: to ride. Let me ride one time. In thirty four

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Speaker 1: was not a by committee we had We had decided

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Speaker 1: and I thought that was uh failed recipe. But that

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Speaker 1: into it knowing that you don't have Odell, you do

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Speaker 1: mindset going into this game, Hey, you know what, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna pound the rock here? Yeah? I think so. Um.

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Speaker 1: We obviously was adjusting to what they were giving us,

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Speaker 1: and we had the attitude of repeat plays. Um Uh,

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Speaker 1: believe it was it against the Jacks. It's a closing game.

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Speaker 1: They ran the same play like seven times out of

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Speaker 1: the last six plays or I mean out of the

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Speaker 1: last eight plays or something like that. It was smashed

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Speaker 1: my football. Y'all know what we're doing, and we know

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Speaker 1: what y'all are doing. Just let the best players when

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Speaker 1: and sometimes you can out coach yourself. So um, I

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Speaker 1: think that day we honestly just were We were making

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Speaker 1: as based upon I scousally making a cause based upon

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Speaker 1: what they were giving us, and they they were for

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Speaker 1: whatever reason, um stack in the box and you know,

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Speaker 1: trying to say, hey, beat us with the beat us

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Speaker 1: with your arm, but we still run the ball. So

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Speaker 1: as a running back and in conjunction with your offensive line,

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Speaker 1: is there no better feeling on earth than when they

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Speaker 1: The opportunities, just the color. It's one of my favorite colors.

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Speaker 1: I witnessed it all. I locked it right beside him.

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Speaker 1: absolutely amazing. I'm glad to be a part of it. Um,

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Speaker 1: It's a stake, you know. You Um, obviously you won

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Speaker 1: now post playing career, I always thought ahead because I

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Speaker 1: And so I was always for thinking of, you know,

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Speaker 1: And also the organizations that allowed me um to be

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Speaker 1: Do you think because you were associated with the Giants

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Speaker 1: one by one, bit by bit eventually ended up happening perfectly,

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Speaker 1: And I think it's because of I was in New

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Speaker 1: it all ties back into that opportunity. Um. That media

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Speaker 1: exposure really what's used for me alright. So Rashad Um

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Speaker 1: kuon Barkley so far this year, because it looks like

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Speaker 1: he looks back in rare form and I love it.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a special guy. Um, his talent is

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Speaker 1: That's like when you play, when you play mad and

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Speaker 1: best players on the team. Brahan, We appreciate a couple

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