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Speaker 1: The guys from Paying. They've kind of showed me how

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Speaker 1: much the equipment matters. I just love that I can

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Speaker 2: We're gonna be able to tell some fun stories about

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Speaker 2: what goes on here to help golfers play better golf.

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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Ping proven Grounds Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Shane Bake and alongside Marty Jerts and Marty in the

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Speaker 1: very very nice purple Today. Marty, we got an exciting

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Stacey Pals, our vice president who is in charge

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Speaker 2: of all of our women's product at Ping is including

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Speaker 2: other rules and responsibilities, and we're very much looking forward

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Speaker 2: to talking to you. Stacey.

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Speaker 3: Thanks, I'm happy to be here, Stacy.

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Speaker 1: First things first, I want to talk about your time

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Speaker 1: in the background.

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Speaker 4: Ah, that gets to be a bigger question, right, So

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Speaker 4: I've been involved with Paying all my life.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: So the secret that's not so secret here is that

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Speaker 4: I'm part of the family, so third generation family member.

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Speaker 4: So Carson and Louise are my grandparents and my father

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Speaker 4: So that's that's where I've been. I worked all throughout

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Speaker 4: worked credit, worked marketing, did a little export, and then

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Speaker 4: started working for Luise directly.

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Speaker 1: When you start out basically with pinging your bloodline and

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Speaker 1: then you start to see this company evolve, how different

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Speaker 1: does it look in twenty twenty five than what you

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Speaker 4: When I was a kid, I mean I remember coming

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Speaker 3: Everyone's like, wow, that's a huge number.

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Speaker 4: And then here we are a little over one thousand

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Speaker 4: and so it's really grown, it's really changed. Went from

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Speaker 2: Stacey, I want to know a little bit more from

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Speaker 2: you having Louise be your grandmother, right, just more. And

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of the listeners Shane are probably

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Speaker 4: Okay, well, yeah, she was very very important for the business.

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Speaker 4: In fact, I feel like we wouldn't necessarily exist had

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Speaker 4: And so while Carston had the ingenuity to kind of

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Speaker 4: So the first or export or we actually gifted because

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Speaker 2: Kind of operations, HR accounting, like all of the business.

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Speaker 4: But but yeah, she was very behind the scenes, and

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Speaker 1: So that would would Carson run stuff by her, I

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Speaker 4: And yeah, so so it wasn't advice per se, because

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Speaker 1: Does two PMT still exist? Is that something we need

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Speaker 3: No? No, but that would be good to bring.

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Speaker 1: Back anniversary T situation at two PM. I liked that, right, Shane.

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Speaker 2: The relationship between Carson Louise kind of reminds me of

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Speaker 1: It's so funny you said that, I was thinking the

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Speaker 2: So Alice was kind of probably responsible for the seventeenth

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Speaker 1: It kind of feels like like like picking your spot

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, right, So, and I think most people know

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Speaker 4: So Louise wanted Carston design more of a women's putter

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Speaker 2: How about Louise's role and then and then ultimately now

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Speaker 2: the company that you're helping continue Stacey's just support overall

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Speaker 4: She actually surprised him. She had taken some lessons on

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Speaker 3: Heard the story where she hit the first drive.

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Speaker 4: But early on, Carston himself was very adamant about going

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Speaker 1: You think about the Solhim Cup now, I mean you

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean we are so so proud to be

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Speaker 1: You got to get involved in international trip, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Even just even the match play concept. So you got

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Speaker 1: It's a brand that's always known what they are and

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Speaker 3: And we're also with the Solime Cup.

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Speaker 1: So that's going to be really Stacey. Ever missed one?

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Speaker 4: I have missed three three soul him Cups three three.

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Speaker 3: I didn't understand that, didn't Stacy.

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Speaker 2: I would love to talk about our Lady's product. And

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Speaker 4: and kind of mix it up, and so we've got

444
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Speaker 4: some really nice color accents on it. It does have

445
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 4: the carbon fly wrap, its face is thinner than our

446
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 4: regular g lines. Lucie still has the vortech. It's got

447
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 4: twenty two gram weight in the back. It's a fixed

448
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 4: position in the back to optimize the the flight and

449
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 4: kind of help a little bit with the tendency to

450
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Speaker 4: go right bias for the right handed golfer or left

451
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 4: bias for the left handed right That tends to happen

452
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Speaker 4: with some of the slower swing speeds players. But you've

453
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Speaker 4: and you've got the adjustable gosh, yeah, thank you. The trajectory,

454
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Speaker 4: we have to make it really difficulty sleeve, yes, and

455
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Speaker 4: it is the center gravity is lower and for the

456
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Speaker 4: in the back it does have because it is thinner

457
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Speaker 4: with the crown. We did have to add an extra

458
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 4: support bar in there just for sound, right, so it

459
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 4: has a better sound overall.

460
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Speaker 1: Marty, which one's the support bar? Is that in the

461
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Speaker 1: back there?

462
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Right here you see these kind of ribs that

463
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Speaker 2: are in Again. I think what's fun is that we

464
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Speaker 2: use our same just like our Prodigy product, just our

465
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 2: same overall engineering horsepower to optimize and the acoustics are

466
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Speaker 2: a really big deal, and especially we kind of get

467
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 2: to optimize these for that specific swing speed. What golf

468
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,199
Speaker 2: ball this player is generally using and things of that nature.

469
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Speaker 2: I was just holding the driver here and give it.

470
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Speaker 2: If you give it a little rotation this way and

471
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Speaker 2: that way, you can feel the inertia. Right, it has

472
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 2: more resistance to that twist. And the inertia is fifteen

473
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 2: percent higher on the Jelly four than the JLL three.

474
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Speaker 2: So that's the carbon all the weight savings, the carbon

475
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 2: fly wrapp the free hazzle design, the more dense backweight.

476
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Speaker 2: So and the test results showed incredible improvements to the

477
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Speaker 2: dispersion stature with the driver Marty.

478
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Speaker 1: In terms of slower swing speeds, what a player struggle

479
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Speaker 1: with and when they when they swing slower versus somebody

480
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: that swings with a really fast speed, Like, what are

481
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Speaker 1: you looking at to optimize in terms of their abilities

482
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Speaker 1: when you're talking about a player that swings a little slower.

483
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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely.

484
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Speaker 2: I mean the big thing we want to try to

485
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 2: do is get the right launch conditions. So generally speaking,

486
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Speaker 2: with a little slower speed, you want to you want

487
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 2: to put your priority on launching the ball high. Everything

488
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,199
Speaker 2: in there, the loft, the deeper CG is meant to

489
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 2: launch the ball a little bit higher. If you look

490
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Speaker 2: at our optimal launch and spin chart. That's kind of

491
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Speaker 2: where you go as speed goes down, you want to

492
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Speaker 2: get launch up. So that's really big deal. And then

493
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Speaker 2: we spend a lot of time studying and Stacey talked

494
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Speaker 2: about with the with I two is having lighter headweight

495
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Speaker 2: but light lightening the entire system the right amount and

496
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 2: you can go two light. So two lights not good

497
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 2: either because you don't have the right like momentum or

498
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 2: you might not find the ground or the bottom of

499
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 2: the swing perfectly, but lightning the shafts. Getting the swing

500
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 2: weight just right, getting the headweight just right is super important,

501
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,239
Speaker 2: so the club turns over easy, so we don't want

502
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 2: to have the ball kind of going out to the right.

503
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 2: We study a lot of the RCOs data and things

504
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Speaker 2: of that nature to help dial that in.

505
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Speaker 1: And Stacy, when you talk about gapping, we've seen this

506
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: kind of big push in the game with lofted woods.

507
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Speaker 1: Is that something you see in the women's line as well?

508
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: Is it more hybrids? What is the focus on in

509
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Speaker 1: terms of kind of maximizing the gaping abilities maybe in

510
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 1: the higher parts of the golf bag.

511
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Speaker 4: It's it's kind of the whole set, the whole combination.

512
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 4: A lot of focus on the on the hybrids, trying

513
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 4: to get the right gaping there, but it's got to

514
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 4: blend into.

515
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 3: The fairways and the driver.

516
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 4: So you've got to got to have a good driver

517
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 4: distance that's going to get you out there, and then

518
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 4: good consistent gapping so that you know what to hit

519
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 4: coming in depending on your game.

520
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Speaker 3: And so the l eight these clubs in particular, because.

521
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 4: We have so many, many more hybrids and irons, you

522
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 4: can mix that set up depending on what your preference

523
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 4: is and what will work better for you. So our

524
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 4: hybrids go from the five through the eight this.

525
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Speaker 1: Time eight here. Yeah, in the eights new.

526
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 3: And eight is new. Yes, the eight is new?

527
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 1: Is that thirty six degrees a loft is what it is?

528
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 2: Thirty six degrees on the eighthybrid wild, So yeah, Stacey

529
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 2: talked a lot about just the importance of the gaping,

530
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 2: So it added the eight hybrid es and then we

531
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Speaker 2: spaced out the lofts on the high lofted on the

532
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 2: fairway woods. So I'm holding the five here as twenty

533
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Speaker 2: three degrees Shane, So this is pretty much equivalent to

534
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 2: our nine wood in our g four to forty Okay, right,

535
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 2: the five wood, so then we have a seven wood

536
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 2: and a nine wood. The nine wood is thirty three degrees, right,

537
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 2: so that'd be like a thirteen wood in our main line.

538
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,719
Speaker 2: But we added a little bit more spacing because we

539
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 2: saw some bunching together in our in our player testing

540
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 2: with the fairway.

541
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Speaker 1: We I mean, it just goes back to fitting, Stacy,

542
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: and you think about getting fit for golf clubs and

543
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: the importance of it, obviously something we've preached a lot

544
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: about on this podcast, and Ping has preached a lot

545
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: about for its entire existence. But finding a set where

546
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 1: you aren't gapped up to your point, aren't kind of

547
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: tightened up party, so you can kind of maximize fourteen clubs.

548
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: Stacy always laugh, fourteen clubs sounds like a lot, and

549
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: then when you start to kind of dive into your

550
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 1: numbers and you go, I've got to make sure that

551
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 1: I'm actually utilizing every slot in the bag right.

552
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 4: And you'll find a lot of women at the slower

553
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 4: swing speeds won't have fourteen clubs, and that's okay. That's

554
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 4: one of the cool things about our brand too, is

555
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 4: that you can build the set for whatever you need

556
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 4: for your clubs. You want three clubs, we can build

557
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 4: you a set of three. You want five, we can

558
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 4: do five. You want fourteen, We'll be happy to put

559
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 4: together fourteen for you.

560
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 3: So that's the night.

561
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 4: The really cool thing that we have to offer is

562
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 4: you can really dial in what that set looks like,

563
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 4: and you can even start with a partial set and

564
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 4: then fill in, you know, as you're game approves if

565
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 4: that's something that you're you're kind of newer to the

566
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 4: game and you're trying to see if you really like

567
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 4: it or not. So if you if you come in,

568
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 4: you know, within the first two years or so of

569
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 4: of the model, you can order some some filling clubs.

570
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 1: What about the options.

571
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 4: Putter options, We have three putter options, so we get

572
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 4: the answer two D, which is this one here, that's

573
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 4: that one you've got in your hands, which I always

574
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 4: feel like an answer is A is a very solid

575
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 4: putter of obviously very proven design. So the two D

576
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 4: is a little bigger. We've got some nice uh color

577
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 4: blocking on that one, trying to give a little pop

578
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 4: so it stands out a little bit more, but it's

579
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 4: definitely will perform well for the for the very swings

580
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 4: stroke types.

581
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Speaker 2: Is still a slight arc, right.

582
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 3: That's right.

583
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 4: So we also have the Louise, which is a nice

584
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 4: mid mallet, and then we have the Oslo. So between

585
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 4: those stroke types for those three different putters. Now, I

586
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 4: will say one of the things that I work on

587
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 4: for the putters and the engineers kind of know me

588
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 4: for this, is that I'm trying to give these women

589
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 4: that are out there that maybe aren't swinging very fast,

590
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 4: just a little more confidence in what they're trying to do.

591
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 4: So when they get that gimme putt and they want

592
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 4: to be kind of cool and pick it up right

593
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 4: that I try to make sure that the backflange, it's

594
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 4: these small little things. I want to try to make

595
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 4: sure this backflange can skew scoop the ball.

596
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: These are huge golfing things.

597
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 4: Right, right, And so I want to provide that female

598
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 4: out there a better chance of being able to scoop

599
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 4: it confidently and not have it like scutter off and

600
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 4: you're like, oops, I shouldn't have done that in public.

601
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: Right, Stacy. I don't think there's anything worse than if

602
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: you get a new putter and you're unable to scoop

603
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: the ball. It's brutal. We've all had one right, and

604
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: you just can't do it, and you just kind of go,

605
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: I guess I got a bend over every time and

606
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: get it. I mean you kind of think about getting

607
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: the suction cup thing on the end of your putter head.

608
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 4: You're like, I can't do that either, right, right, So

609
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 4: our regular lines, you know, they have been getting a

610
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 4: little thicker on the back slang, and so I've been

611
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 4: like challenging the engineers, like how can we keep it thin?

612
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 4: And this one because like the Louise and the Oslo

613
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 4: have a two piece technology, Like trying to get that

614
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 4: keep that thin with the with the two piece there

615
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 4: was a challenge and I think it's still works out

616
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 4: pretty pretty good.

617
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and still have great fitting options because the Louise

618
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 2: has our four hazzle so strong arc and then the

619
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Speaker 2: Oslo face balanced, so a couple of really good fitting

620
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Speaker 2: options in there.

621
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the little things.

622
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Is this now, I know it's something silly, I

623
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Speaker 1: mean when you think about it, but it's really not

624
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: because it is important for people that again, you don't

625
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: want to have a puddle that can't pick up the ball.

626
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: Are these things that you're that you're just kind of observing.

627
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: Are these actual things that you're finding out as you're

628
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: talking to golfers.

629
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's more observing, okay, and knowing, you know, being

630
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 4: out there type of thing.

631
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Speaker 3: Like I want to be able to do this.

632
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 4: I'd love to be able to bounce the ball a

633
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 4: little better on the club face I spend it and such.

634
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 4: I need a little more time to practice. Yeah, I

635
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 4: don't think I have the good risks action need to,

636
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 4: so I need to some tips on how.

637
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 3: To do that. But that would be good.

638
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 4: But even little There's another thing, and we don't talk

639
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 4: about golf bags here much, but our Lady's bag. A

640
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 4: feature that we have in that bag is that the

641
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 4: shoulder strap on that bag is a little softer because

642
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 4: a lot of women wear sleeveless blouses and if you're

643
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 4: carrying the bag, which I like to carry, so the

644
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 4: carry bags, you actually have it so that it's a

645
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 4: little softer, so it won't like kind of hurt your shoulder.

646
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 4: If you're playing a full round, you got to take

647
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 4: it up and down. I try to pay attention to

648
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 4: the little things that make it a little easier for

649
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 4: the women that are out there playing golf. And I

650
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 4: hate to use the term easy, but I'm really trying

651
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 4: to make it as easy as possible for those women

652
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 4: to really enjoy the game and have success.

653
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: Are these if you notice something? Is this like a riot?

654
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: It in your phone on the notes app?

655
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 4: Thing?

656
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: Is this an email you send to yourself? Is this

657
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: coming to work on Monday going we get this? Things

658
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: been rubbing on my shoulder. We got to figure this out.

659
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: How do you go about your process?

660
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 4: No, Well, that one I went out they had a

661
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 4: prototype bag and took it out and look and I

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Speaker 4: was wearing a sleeveless blouse at the time, and so

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Speaker 4: I go out to play and I was into carrying

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Speaker 4: it at the time as well. And I came back

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Speaker 4: to the engineers and I'm like, I've got something that

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Speaker 4: you guys probably never curaged you. And they're like, what

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Speaker 4: I like this. It's a little harsh. It's a little

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Speaker 4: harsh on the shoulder.

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Speaker 1: Here, this is the area. Yeah, I understand. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: that's interesting. That's again, I would have never thought about

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Speaker 1: itless blouse.

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Speaker 4: Unless you're playing the Mooney the Munich Courses or something

673
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Speaker 4: like that.

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Speaker 3: Right, it's not many coffers that are doing that.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, Stacey even more details on the product.

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Speaker 1: The grips.

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00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 4: Right, maybe it's a little bigger, yes, yes, well this

678
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 4: the standard. The standard is a little bigger, so we

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00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 4: went to awkward grip as a standard. And that's what

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Speaker 4: we found kind of we are testing in their numbers,

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00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 4: is that more women are on the average women is

682
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 4: going more aqua. So we've switched our standard to the

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Speaker 4: Aqua grip, but we still offer the red smaller one.

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Speaker 4: I think we still have the blue as well, so

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Speaker 4: we have two sizes below that for those that need it,

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Speaker 4: or even a junior girl that needs something that the

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00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 4: blue might work well for them as well. As we

688
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 4: still have the white as well, so you can go

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Speaker 4: a little larger. It's another feature we have as you

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Speaker 4: can get the right grip size for your game.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think again going back to golf, as

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Speaker 1: hard enough as it is, I mean we all have

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Speaker 1: experienced it at times, Marty probably less than most, but

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Speaker 1: I mean there are times when golf is extremely tough

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Speaker 1: for everybody involved. The idea of getting into the game

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Speaker 1: is intimidating. I mean I talked to my wife about

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Speaker 1: this a lot, and she goes, do you want me

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Speaker 1: to learn to play golf, and a part of me thinks, yes,

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Speaker 1: I'd love that, and a part of me thinks this

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Speaker 1: is going to be a five to ten year journey

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Speaker 1: for her to get to a place where she's comfortable playing.

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Speaker 1: Just the idea of allowing people an oppertu you need

703
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: to start out on the right foot has felt like

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Speaker 1: something that's been instrumental in the existence of being, and

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00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: it's so instrumental in what you're doing in terms of

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Speaker 1: the women's line is allowing players to want to play

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Speaker 1: and be comfortable to play right out of.

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Speaker 4: The gate, right right, And that's one thing we've Another

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00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 4: change we've done for this current line is that we

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00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 4: have switched our fitting club to an.

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Speaker 3: Eight iron from a seven iron. Right.

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Speaker 4: So the times have changed. So back when I first started,

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00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 4: you know, customer service, it was the five irons right

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Speaker 4: where the fitting clubs right, and so going from that

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Speaker 4: to the seven iron was a big deal. And so

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Speaker 4: for the ladies, we're for the first time, we're going

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Speaker 4: to an eight iron, just to help get them a

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00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 4: little more confidence on it, because when you think about it,

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Speaker 4: a lot of the women are using hybrids as a seven,

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Speaker 4: so you know they're not even using a seven iron sometimes,

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Speaker 4: so granted we have that if they want that, but

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Speaker 4: so we went to the eight iron as our fitting club.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's again, it's making it just slightly

724
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: a little bit. Get the ball in the air, see

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00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 1: some shots you want to see out on the golf course,

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Speaker 1: and then kind of go from there. I mean, Marty again,

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00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: I think out of the gate. It can be a

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Speaker 1: little simpler, a little smarter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So another big part of project we worked on

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Speaker 2: with Stacy was building an online fitting experience called webfit Ladies,

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Speaker 2: which Stacy's son Nick helped us do some of the

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Speaker 2: engineering and software development on, which has been quite fun.

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Speaker 2: And that's meant to make the understanding the fitting process

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Speaker 2: easier and to help educate. Maybe it's a customer like

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Speaker 2: your wife, Shane, that's like I want to get I

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Speaker 2: want to get in the game. Fitting sounds intimidating. I'm

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Speaker 2: not good enough. We built webfit Ladies kind of exactly

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Speaker 2: for that scenario. So Stacy want to give a little

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Speaker 2: background on webfit Ladies.

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Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, so yeah, So we built webfit Ladies so

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Speaker 4: that a female can go in there, answer a few

742
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 4: quick questions and it can actually take them off the path.

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Speaker 4: If they're a little more athletic, their swing speed is

744
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 4: a little faster, so they can they can take them

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Speaker 4: into the regular product lines so that they can get

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Speaker 4: fit properly for those and then those that are for

747
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 4: the ladies' specific clubs with the slower swing speeds, we

748
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Speaker 4: can dial in a little more about what kind of

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Speaker 4: club combination and it can actually recommend what club combinations

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Speaker 4: would work well for those ladies.

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Speaker 1: And your son worked on that. How many do you

752
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 1: have you said you have four kiddos?

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Speaker 3: I have four kids?

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Speaker 1: How many?

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Speaker 4: So two of them currently work here and my daughter

756
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 4: in law as well. So yeah, so my both my

757
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 4: boys work here. The both into programming. Yeah, so my

758
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 4: son worked on initially, and I know it was trying

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Speaker 4: to get across because I'm a big proponent is just

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Speaker 4: because you're female, you should not just go into the

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00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 4: female section of the store and such. I've had that

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00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 4: happen to me, where you kind of get pigeonholed. You

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00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 4: walk in, they're like, no, it's almost like they didn't

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Speaker 4: know what to do with you. You should go that

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00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 4: that's where you belong, and that's not always where you belong,

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Speaker 4: And so trying to make sure that if we're going

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Speaker 4: to do this for women, that it's that we have

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Speaker 4: that we have something as well that can help get

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Speaker 4: them off off the ladies path if they're a G

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00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 4: four forty player and they may not know it but

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Speaker 4: they but they could be, you know.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, well Stacey, good chatting with you. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's uh, it's I think about this every time I

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00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: come on campus, you know. I mean the fact that

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00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: there's you grew up in the family, you have kids

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00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: that are now part of the family. I mean, their

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Speaker 1: kids are going to be a part of the family.

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Speaker 1: I mean PING feels like such a family company, and

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Speaker 1: it's always felt like that. I mean since the first

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Speaker 1: time I stepped foot on campus. I can only imagine

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Speaker 1: what it feels like for you. I'm so congrats on

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Speaker 1: the new line things. So much for chatting with us.

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Speaker 3: Thanks, happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. This is the Ping Proving Grounds Podcast