1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: It's exciting time for myself, the franchise, the coaching staff, 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: the personnel department here, it's an exciting time for you 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: guys doing what you do and covering the team. The 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: drafts an opportunity for us to improve the roster, you know, 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: through the draft capital that we have and you know 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: again we have you know, different needs throughout the roster, 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: and we have several plans that we're we're still working 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: through the board will probably be set you know, tomorrow afternoon, 9 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: tomorrow evening, just in terms of our preparation and step 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: away from it this weekend to prevent the paralysis by 11 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: analysis staring at things moving guys this much versus you know, 12 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,279 Speaker 1: other players. So a lot of work has has went 13 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: into this, between the coaching staff, the personnel staff, everybody 14 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: in this building from you know, the thirty visits, the meals, 15 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: the coordination, the travel. So really, you know, a team 16 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: effort and a lot of people have their hands in 17 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: the process and you know what leads up to to 18 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: draft weekend. So that being said, I'll open up for questions. 19 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: Job when you and. 20 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 2: Daves and your staff evaluate these quarterbacks, either a person 21 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 2: on film or you watch a ton of film. You've 22 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 2: seen a lot of these kids in person. What are 23 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: some of the things you kind of focus in on 24 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 2: when you study these guys. 25 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean all positions have different critical factors that 26 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: we focus in on. So I mean with the quarterback position, 27 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: you know, we've been through this before with with with 28 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: Daves and I, And it's not just what you see 29 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: on film. I think I've said this before at this 30 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: particular position, you can take what you see on film, 31 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: but I think it's equally as important what you can't 32 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: see on film and spending time with the prospects, not 33 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: just at that position, but I mean that's a reason 34 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: we bring in, you know, several prospects from different positions 35 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: for the thirty visits. We go and have private workouts, 36 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: not with just with quarterbacks, but other positions as well. 37 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: So again, I think the film is one thing, but 38 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: also evaluate and who they are as people and how 39 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: they'll fit into your culture and your franchise. 40 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 3: Is equally important. 41 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: So again, that's that's across all positions and the resources 42 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: you have. 43 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 4: You only have six picks this year, I imagine you 44 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 4: don't really want to touch next year's picks just yet. 45 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 4: So how do you kind of balance the temptation to 46 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 4: move up and where to move up in the strepp. 47 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, my job is to do it's best for the franchise. 48 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: So if if there's an opportunity to go up, move back, stay, 49 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: whether it's in the first round, third round, fifth round, 50 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: that that's what we'll do. But you take all that 51 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: into account, Patty when you're when you're when you're making 52 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: those type of decisions, and you know, again that's some 53 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: of the planning and strategy and some of those meetings 54 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: that will have over the next couple of days and 55 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: you know the what ifs if this then and you 56 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: go back and forth on it. And the good thing 57 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: is you have the first round on Thursday, you can 58 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: you know, regroup, you know, going into Friday before the 59 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: second and third round and have those conversations again. So 60 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: you know, the draft being over three day period helps 61 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: you in terms of when you have those meetings, in 62 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 1: those strategy sessions, when you decide if you're going to 63 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: go up down, you know which players you like, and 64 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 1: so that those are all things that we'll talk about 65 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: over the next week or so. Yes, how you chart 66 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: right obviously, and. 67 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 5: Every other team has the trade value charts. Have you 68 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 5: found your experience, is there like a quote unquote quarterback tax, 69 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 5: Like if you're moving up for a quarterback, the teams 70 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 5: try to track more. 71 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say that's that's probably true. Dan, I 72 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: would say that's true, like if if people know what 73 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: you're coming up for, depending you know, again, I've been 74 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: involved to this with with Buffalo. It probably wasn't as high, 75 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: but you know, I do think they Tampa Bay knew 76 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: what we were doing. 77 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 3: So I do think you know that that happens for 78 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 3: that position. 79 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: Ye, that's true. 80 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 4: Man. 81 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 6: I think at the combine about how hope when you 82 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 6: think top three teams would be to trade, and granted 83 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 6: that was early, then at this point do you have 84 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 6: a sense you feel like it is they're amenable to 85 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 6: probably strictly talking probably about the number three pick open 86 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 6: to you know, making a move if you know the 87 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 6: offer is right there. 88 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard to say. And then two being in 89 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: the division, you know, that's a that's a difficult one. 90 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: You know, typically if if you know you're. 91 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: Talking in the top ten of the draft, trade with 92 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: somebody within the division. So so yeah, I mean, you know, 93 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: otherwise I don't think anybody's ready to move right now. 94 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: I know you know, people are listening, which we'll all 95 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: do that you know, from you know, teams behind us 96 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: or or moving up. I think those exploratory talks and 97 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: conversations will happen here shortly. You know, we just finished 98 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: up thirty visits and as you're well aware, some other 99 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: teams still had some you know, large groups, small groups, 100 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: whatever it may be, so you're still gathering information. We 101 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: can still have zooms with players for you know, up 102 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: until Wednesday, so you know, I think teams are still 103 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: getting to know some of these prospects or any loose 104 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: ends that they need to tie up before the draft. 105 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: So I think teams, you know, look in those conversations 106 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: will happen over the next I would say, you know, 107 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: forty eight to seventy two hours, olds will start happening. 108 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: You'll get a feel for you know, who's open to 109 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: move and who's not. 110 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 7: Philosophical question when it comes specifically to quarterbacks, as a 111 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 7: general manager. 112 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 3: What would be a bigger regret. 113 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 7: Swinging and missing at a quarterback or passing on a 114 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 7: guy you had an opportunity maybe that you loved, you know, 115 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 7: pass on that guy and then watch him star somewhere else. 116 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: Uh, who's the other guy? I'm just on. 117 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 7: Any specific well specific quarterback. You know what, pass on 118 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 7: that guy. You pass on that quarterback, Pass on a 119 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 7: quarterback and then he becomes a star for somebody else 120 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 7: rather than swinging and missing. 121 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to, Yeah, you gotta be comfortable. We're 122 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: having all those conversations now. And it's not just a 123 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: quarterback position again, there's there's other positions. And when I 124 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: think when they're on the same level, that's with a 125 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: lot of times, if you got a corner on this 126 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: line and a defensive tackle on this line, that's where 127 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: you take in the team need if you see them 128 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: equally in terms of how you see the prospect and 129 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: the grades that you have on them. So you let 130 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: your board talk to you, go through all these conversations, 131 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: and you know, again, we're going to do what's best 132 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: for the franchise, and all of our meetings and all 133 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: of our preparation and when we set the board is 134 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: Alwa's best for the New York Giants. So I'm confident 135 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: we're going to get good player next Thursday, whatever position 136 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: that is, and you know we'll sleep good at night. 137 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: Knowing we did all the preparation and you know, we 138 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: let the board talk to us. 139 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 8: Joe, you mentioned just before half kidding around paralysis by analysis. 140 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 8: But obviously you've got to do your due diligence. But 141 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 8: do you have to guard against everybody overthinking it kind 142 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 8: of maybe be careful that you don't outsmart yourselves. 143 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, for sure, because because I mean, every 144 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: waking moment, this is this is what we're all thinking about, 145 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: is the draft, and it's not just the first round, 146 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: it's the second round. Making sure that we have the 147 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 1: players stacked. If if three players that are a positioned 148 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: or there, we're sure that we like them the way 149 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: that that they're stacked. And we're working through a lot 150 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: of those now. But yeah, you can. You can go 151 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: round and round and round, and at some point somebody 152 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: has to to make a decision. And when we're going 153 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: through those some film sessions we've been in, you know, 154 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: we're doing film all more morning together as a staff 155 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: and working through where the discrepancies are. If that makes sense, 156 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: you know, whether the coaches like them a little bit 157 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: higher and we do, or the stack is different. So 158 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: we actually get in a room together and you know, 159 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: we say, hey, this is how you're going to utilize them, 160 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: this is how we see them as a personnel staff. 161 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: Let's roll up our sleeves, let's watch the film, let's 162 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: talk through it while we're watching it, and then ultimately, 163 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: you know, we got to make a decision on how 164 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: they stack on the board. So that's what we're trying 165 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: to get through the next two days, any. 166 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 3: Type of discrepancies. 167 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: That way, I can prevent myself from the proalysis by analysis, 168 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: because you can you can go back and forth, and 169 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: you know, I like when the draft is getting you know, 170 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: as it's getting closer, I can stop going through all 171 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: these scenarios and rest easy at night once these decisions 172 00:07:58,560 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: have been made. 173 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 9: Which is some of the talk that this draft is 174 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 9: very deep at wide receiver. First of all, would you 175 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 9: agree with that? And it's also a lot of talk 176 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 9: that there were three guys in this draft a receiver 177 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 9: who could be number one receivers in other years. Do 178 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 9: you kind of see that shaping up that way as well? 179 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I do think it's a deep receiver draft. 180 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: I do think there are Again, they come in different 181 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: shapes and sizes and speeds, But I do I do 182 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: think it's a deep, you know, wide receiver draft from 183 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: from top to bottom, depending on what you're looking for. So, 184 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: you know, some added value with guys the new kickoff 185 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: rules and the guys that can also do returns, you know, 186 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: I think there's an added element there too. And there's 187 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: some receivers that can can wear multiple hats, not just 188 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: as a receiver but also as returners. 189 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 3: So yeah, I do. I do think it's a good draft. 190 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: And and again I don't know which however people have 191 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: them ranked, but just in general for your question, I 192 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: think it is a good draft from the receiver position. 193 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: I think there will be several taken in the first round. 194 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 9: Just one more follow up for that. 195 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 10: And you know, if you mentioned you know's number one target, 196 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 10: you know, I mean, you know offensive coach would like that. 197 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 9: How much you said that? 198 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 2: What's that? 199 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: When did I say that? 200 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 3: You said? 201 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 9: You said you said, especially with a you know, a 202 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 9: head coach who's an offensive guy, you know that he 203 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 9: would certainly like it. You definitely said that more than once, 204 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 9: even say that would be the pick out or else 205 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 9: we wouldn't have to be here. How much you think 206 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 9: that is missing has been missing from the offense and 207 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 9: how much can that do for an offensive You draft 208 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 9: the guy at number six, would you say this is 209 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 9: a stud and we're putting him in through our offense? 210 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 2: Now? 211 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: Yes, having an offensive head coach, right, yeah, I've probably 212 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: definitely said that at some point, but no, I mean 213 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: it can't. It can really help you out, and especially 214 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: the way we're constructed now. You know, Jalen Hyatt can 215 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: take the top off you know, Wandell working in the slot. 216 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: I think you could really see what he was able 217 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: to do late in the season when when he was 218 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: finally healthy. And you know, Darius Slayton's been uber consistent, 219 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 1: you know, during his time. And then you know, again 220 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: if if you add another you know, wide receiver there, 221 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: whether it's in the top ten or or later in 222 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: the draft, because the depth of the class, you know, 223 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: I do think it gives you, you know, options, and 224 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: it's going to help, you know, the offense in general, 225 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 1: we have to score more at the end of the day, 226 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: we need to score more points. And adding a you know, 227 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: if it's a number one receiver or whatever you want 228 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,719 Speaker 1: to call it, just a better receiving weapons going to 229 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 1: help going to help everybody to look at the. 230 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 11: Roster with Darius obviously not being here for voluntary workouts 231 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 11: and wanting a new contract, does that change how you 232 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 11: view the roster going into the draft and are you 233 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 11: open to those negotiations. 234 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that doesn't That doesn't change anything. These are 235 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: voluntary workouts. You know, there's there's been players since I've 236 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: been here that that haven't been here. And I understand that. 237 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: I love Darius, Michael Parrets's agent. He's a very good 238 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: friend of mine. I understand where where he's coming from. 239 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: And that's that's his uh prerogative to not be here. 240 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: But but but they are voluntary workouts, so you know 241 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:00,239 Speaker 1: that's that's underst. 242 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 2: And in Buffalo, what was the one determining factor that 243 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 2: made Brandon want Josh out? Oh? 244 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: There was There's more than one. Yeah. 245 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 12: Was there one tiebreaker? 246 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 2: One in tangible or tangible? 247 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: No, I mean it's again that that position is so unique. 248 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: It was a combination of, you know, a lot of things. 249 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: I mean, his size, his arm telling and he played 250 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: in the elements unbelievable kid. Yeah, yeah, leadership, the Magi. 251 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 3: Checked a lot of boxes. 252 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: I think it's important to check a lot of boxes 253 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: at that position. Not just one. In particular, when a. 254 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 11: Team is treated up for a quarterback, that sometimes the 255 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 11: draft chart goes out the window a little bit and 256 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 11: you have to pay a little bit more. When there's 257 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 11: two teams that are potentially interested in going up for 258 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 11: that quarterback, does it that bidding war commence in a way? 259 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 11: And then is there a step away point where you 260 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 11: have to be like, Okay, we're starting to get to 261 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 11: a number here, that's just we can't go there. 262 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I haven't been in a draft where 263 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: we've I mean that at least not that I can 264 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: think of off the top of my head. Will we 265 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: move back with a team that's coming up with, you know, 266 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: for a quarterback or bidding team? So I'm not sure 267 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: how that how that would work out. I really haven't 268 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: been a part of that. But yeah, in any negotiation, 269 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: if if, if you have leverage, you're going to be 270 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: able to probably get what you're asking prices. So, whether 271 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: it's football or any walk of life, leverage helps in 272 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 1: any deal. So I think if if if somebody is 273 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: trying to you know, move up again, it could be 274 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: the third round, it could be the second round, and 275 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: there's multiple bidders you're going to take the best, best deal. 276 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: I would assume. 277 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 11: What about being one of the potentially being in a 278 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 11: situation where you're one of those teams trying to go 279 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 11: up with another team? 280 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're trying to move, I mean, you don't 281 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: know what everybody else is doing. I have no way 282 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: to know what you know, the other thirty one teams 283 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: you are doing. But to your you know, back to 284 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,239 Speaker 1: your first question, absolutely, there's there's a walk away. 285 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 3: Point on on everything. 286 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: Again, in any negotiation, there's a what what are you 287 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: comfortable spending? And then you know you is it worth 288 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: it or not? And then you got to be comfortable 289 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: walking away and go into your you know, your playing 290 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 1: the year, you know, whatever it may be. If if 291 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: you can't get up for that player, okay, well who's 292 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: going to be there when you're picking and be ready 293 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 1: to execute? 294 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 12: Then throughout your you know, your tenure here, now you're 295 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 12: going to a draft where how strategic would you say 296 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 12: you are in terms of your planning, your evaluation even 297 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 12: going back to January of putting everything together and is 298 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 12: that schedule flexible or do you pretty much have it 299 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 12: all the way laid out through the visits ending yesterday 300 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 12: as to what you're going to do, and you're pretty 301 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 12: comfortable with what process you have set up. 302 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: Now, yeah, I'm comfortable with the process. And I think again, 303 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: as we set the board, you you get a pretty 304 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: good idea of who's going to be there when you're picking, 305 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 1: or in generality, where where you can you know, if 306 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: you need a tight end, Okay, well where where? Where 307 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: does that look like there's depth in the draft? Or 308 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: you know how many guys are going to go high. 309 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: You know, some drafts there aren't a lot of receivers 310 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: like this year, and you know, maybe the first receiver 311 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: goes in the second round. So every draft is different. 312 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: It's unique based on the players that you're getting from college. 313 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 1: So you you plan and make your you know, plan A, B, C, D, 314 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: whatever it may be, based off your board. And then 315 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: you know your team needs where can you acquire those picks? 316 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: And you know, hey, if you don't get a corner here, 317 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: where's the next chance you're going to get him? Okay, 318 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: well we'll better take him in the fourth round because 319 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: we don't have another corner on the board. So you 320 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: take all that stuff into account. You know, the further 321 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: you get in the draft, you know a lot of times. Again, 322 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: like I said earlier, if guys are on the same 323 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: same line, you're going to go with need at some 324 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: point or if you already took some in that position. 325 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: So we go through all those you know, scenarios right now, 326 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: and then it's it's flexible as you go through the 327 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: draft based on what you've taken previously. If that makes sense. 328 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 13: Where with Darren Waller right now? 329 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're giving Darren his space. We've had conversations with 330 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: with Drew Rosenhaus's agent and he's kept us in the 331 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: loop on Darren, So we're giving him in space. Hopefully 332 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: he's going to make a decision here in the short term, 333 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: but uh, you know, we're going to him time in 334 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: his space to make a decision on what he wants 335 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: to do. 336 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 13: So be helpful before the draft for you. Have you 337 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 13: given him that kind of a timeline at all? 338 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: No, we haven't given him a deadline. 339 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 6: For one second. How open are you to you know, 340 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 6: adjusting or extending his contract. 341 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, we haven't had conversations about any type of extension. 342 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 14: When you said, when you say you understand where he's 343 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 14: coming from, is that a way of you saying that 344 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 14: you intend to try to address that later this offseason 345 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 14: or that's good question. 346 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: I understand where he's coming from because I've had communication 347 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: with his agent. 348 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 3: That's that's all that is. 349 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, we we just signed the deal a little over 350 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: twelve months ago. It was a two year deal. And 351 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: you know, again, so I understand where he's coming from 352 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: based on our conversations. Is what I meant by that. 353 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 3: Was progressing. 354 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: Uh, Daniel's doing well. He's running straight line and he 355 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: and he's throwing. So I there haven't been any setbacks. 356 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: So hopefully you know, he's on track for a training camp. 357 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: I believe you said that the other day, and that's 358 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: that's the plan as long as there's you know, no setbacks. 359 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 4: A new coordinator coming in, do you find, historically speaking, 360 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 4: that the draft tends to tell me more to that 361 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 4: new coalitator's needs or do you feel that you know 362 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 4: there's a good core in place that you can be flexible. 363 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think right now that we have enough needs 364 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: that it could go either what you know, offense or defense. 365 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: You know, I think we're not one player away or 366 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: two players. So I think you know, Shane coming in 367 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: has been phenomenal with his communication and articulating what he's 368 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: looking for in his scheme. And you know, we've had 369 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: really good communication with him throughout this pre draft process 370 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: in terms of what players fit his scheme and you know, 371 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: again the value where we can get those players. So yeah, 372 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: Shane's been a really good addition and you know, enjoying 373 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: my time working with this far progressing. Evan's progressing well. 374 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: Some im on somon I guess it would be Monday 375 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: wait at a team meeting and looks good and good 376 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: spirits and you know he's he's progressing. 377 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 5: Well since last tip too. 378 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 12: For you especially years, what is that like? 379 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot of our work and the preparation, 380 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: especially in the first round last year was a little 381 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: bit more stressful because when you're when you're picking further 382 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: back in the draft, where this year at six it 383 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 1: it makes it a little bit easier because you could say, Okay, 384 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: here's here's six names, here's how we like them, here's 385 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: our different scenarios, and you can go from there. So 386 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: the first round is I'm pretty calm, to be honest 387 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: with you, just because you've done all the work and 388 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: no matter how it pans, out, you've got your stack 389 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: and how you like the players. Last year again was 390 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: a little you know, there's a little bit more anxiety 391 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: and uncertainty because to us last year, the draft didn't 392 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: really start till pick fifteen. And now you're starting to 393 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: narrow down who's going to be there where, you know, 394 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: picking this high it's a little bit different, but pretty 395 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: calm because all the work and the preparation that you know, 396 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: the staff, the coaches, all of us have done leading up. 397 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 3: To the draft. So HERE'SU. 398 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 1: You feel pretty good about our board. And you know, 399 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: again as as you go through it, the board talks 400 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: to you and a lot of the decisions have already 401 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: been made. So we said that you're not one or 402 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: two players away in this year's draft, so you could 403 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: go either way. 404 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 5: How does that impact. 405 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 2: Your decision on whether or not you move up and 406 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 2: what you give up, what you're willing to part with 407 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 2: to move up. 408 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't said we're going to move up, or 409 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 1: we will or we won't. But it impacts do we stay, 410 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,239 Speaker 1: do you know? Surprisingly at six we've gotten a lot 411 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: of calls from people behind us. So I didn't think 412 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: it would be I didn't think I got to have 413 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: as much activity at six from people behind me as 414 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: we've gotten. So those are options too as we look 415 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: at you know, if we go back, how far back 416 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: do we want to go? Is this team for okay? 417 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: Then to the stack I was just talking about. Okay, 418 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: Now now there's ten names instead of six or fifteen names, 419 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: and where does it make sense for us to move back? 420 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: And what else can we get with that? With that? 421 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: So we're taking all that, whether we go up back stay. 422 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: All that's you know, being talked about right now is 423 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: we're going through it all. 424 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 5: Through a more active draft day. 425 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: Do you expect more calls going in there, given the 426 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: fact that you've gotten so many? Yeah, it could be, 427 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: it could be. I mean I think again everybody's assuming 428 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: who's going number one. I think we can all agree 429 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: that it's probably going to happen, and it's going to 430 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: be Caleb. And then you know, the draft starts it 431 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: too and see what Washington does. And then you know, 432 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: again there's rumors of teams behind us wanting to come 433 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: up and some of the calls we've received, So yeah, 434 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: we'll go through. You know, again, we don't know what's 435 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: going to happen at two, three, four or five or 436 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: people are going to come up behind us. But those 437 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: are all things that we're talking about and going through 438 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 1: different scenarios. 439 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 5: And what those teams are. How are you're going to do? 440 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: Like and how good are handle? 441 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 5: Do you think you have a nothing going to necessarily 442 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 5: share with us, but like how do you go about it? 443 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 1: And what is your handle on it? Yeah? What I 444 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:40,479 Speaker 1: do personally is on you know, Monday Tuesday, depending what 445 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about doing or what I'm interested in doing. 446 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: I you know, I'll call the general managers, you know, 447 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: I'll call each team and just check in and what 448 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: you know, what are you looking to do? Are you 449 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: looking to move up? You know, I may be willing 450 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: to go back. I may be looking to go up, 451 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 1: depending on who it is. And you have those exploratory 452 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: conversations that they'd be open to it, and then you 453 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: know it's okay, circle back or text me, you know, 454 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 1: to pick before you're on the clock or if we 455 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: want to come up, so you'll gather the information. Then 456 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: most of the stuff I gather is you know, it's 457 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: word of mouth with the actual general managers if they 458 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: would be interested in and do it. You know, Trent 459 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: Maulkey last year, we had we'd had that conversation during 460 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: the day depending how my but the board falls. You know, again, 461 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: we were a little bit worried about some teams maybe 462 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: coming up behind us to take tay and but we 463 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: also had, you know, contingency plans with some teams to 464 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 1: move back at that point too. So a lot of 465 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 1: those conversations we had the day of the draft, that 466 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: morning leading up to it, so you knew what the 467 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: teams around you were doing and looking to do. 468 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 3: So that's typically where I get most. 469 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 12: Of that when you're making those calls like do you 470 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 12: have to lean on general managers that you have relationships 471 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 12: with or do you feel free to call God that 472 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 12: you might not have a relationship with, And you know. 473 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 3: How do you how do you balance. 474 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 12: The idea of how much information you want to give 475 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 12: versus you don't want to give away your plans? 476 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's not a lot of detail in those conversations, 477 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: so you really don't get into you know, what you 478 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: what you want to do, but hey, I'm I may 479 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: be looking to move up if one of the players 480 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: there that I'm interested, you don't say, hey, if John 481 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: Smith's there, I want to come up, So you don't, 482 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: you don't give that much much information. You just you know, hey, 483 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: if would you be interested in moving back? And then 484 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: it's more just touching base and then through text or 485 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: a phone call when you're on the clock, so comfortable 486 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: calling you know, every team and their decision maker. Just yeah, 487 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 1: definitely not you know, showing our cards. 488 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 12: Yeah, giving away too much information because I've heard from 489 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 12: many people where you know, Joe Shane is keeping people 490 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 12: guessing what the giants are. 491 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 15: Going to do. 492 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 12: Is that a conscious process for you? 493 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say, especially at six, you know where 494 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: we're picking. I think you know again at twenty five 495 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: it's a little bit you know, it's you're so far 496 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: back there you don't really know what's going to happen 497 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: ahead of you. So yeah, I think it's six. It's 498 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: important to you know, keep things close to the vest, 499 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: and you know, against you can. You know, there's a 500 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: competitive advantage to that, to people not knowing what you're 501 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: thinking or which way you're going to go, and got 502 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: to have a lot of trust, you know, when you're there, 503 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: when you do have conversations again with people behind you 504 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: looking to come up or whatever, it may be. 505 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 3: So, yeah, you try your best to keep your your 506 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 3: cards close. 507 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 11: Determining how aggressive you want to be and potentially moving up. 508 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 11: How much do you weigh your early evaluations on next 509 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 11: year's draft, Like what you think that that class could 510 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 11: be when you're thinking about potentially parting with future picks. 511 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, not just draft a free agency, like what's that 512 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: market going to You're always looking at that. You know 513 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: the market in the future and who's become available. You 514 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: can only you know, you can only weigh that so much. 515 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: I'll never forget. I was I was living in Texas 516 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 1: at the time, and I was golfing with one of 517 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers scouts the day that Andrew Luck decided 518 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 1: he was going to go back to school. So as 519 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: much as you can, you don't know what's going to happen. 520 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 1: Or two was coming out and two got hurt. But 521 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, there's a player that 522 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: you like and they could get hurt, they could decide 523 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: to go back to school. Denis Hickey, our assistant director 524 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: of player Personnel, I think he said we had one 525 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy players that we had draftable grades on 526 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: that went back to school. So again with the nil 527 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: and I mean it's like, you know, you can look 528 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: at it and prepare for it, but there's no guarantee 529 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: that you know, those players will get through their college 530 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: season healthy, they'll actually come out, you know, so you 531 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: can you can try to predict as much as you want, 532 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: but there are variables that can can affect that as well. 533 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 15: Go ahead, Pat has has Michael Pennix Junior acquitted all 534 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 15: concerns or possible concerns about his injury history in your mind? 535 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 15: And then kind of a follow up to that would be, 536 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 15: are you more reticent right now than you would have 537 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 15: been a year ago maybe to take a. 538 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 14: Chance on a guy who has an injury history? Or 539 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 14: is it just the same as it. 540 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: Ever was with that No, I think we always take 541 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: that into account. We have to listen to our medical professionals. 542 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: So you know, again we've we've unfortunately had some issues 543 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: with injuries the last couple of years since I've been here. 544 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: So you want to stray away from, you know, those 545 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: you know, injury risks the best you can, and you know, 546 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: without I'm not gonna get into specifics on on on Michael. 547 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: It's it's well documented the injuries that he had while 548 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: was it Indiana. But you know, he has been healthy 549 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: at Washington and played you know, two full seasons there, 550 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: so you know a lot of times those are indicators, 551 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: even if if it's not. You know, again, we'll go 552 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 1: back to John Smith and he had an a cl 553 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: his sophomore year, but it hasn't swollen, it hasn't been 554 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: swelled up, and he hasn't missed any games or had 555 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: to aspirated or anything like that. Usually lean on how 556 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: the patient responds to those surgeries and how they perform. 557 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: So we had our medical meeting Monday night, and we 558 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: didn't lose too many people. That's always a scary meeting 559 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,479 Speaker 1: for us because, okay, which which one of these players 560 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: that we love are going to be disqualified because of 561 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: medical or they they advise that we don't take them. 562 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 1: And we didn't lose a lot of players this year, luckily. 563 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 2: Getting a temptation to direct at rowing franchise quarterback at 564 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 2: six or above. How much pressure do you feel to. 565 00:24:59,000 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 5: Get this right? 566 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 3: I feel like we're again we can go several different ways. 567 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: I'm there's several different options that we can take and 568 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: and we're gonna be Okay, so I'm comfortable where we 569 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: are in terms of whatever we do. 570 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 5: Obviously, you guys needed to add a quarterback, you know, 571 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 5: just basically where the roster was you added Drew. Do 572 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 5: you still feel like you need or want to add 573 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 5: a quarterback in the draft? 574 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think with you know Drew's experience, 575 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: you know he started games and played, and you know 576 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: Daniel's experience, and then what Tommy did last year, another 577 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: year in the system, Tommy's come a long way. So no, 578 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: I think we could go in with the season with 579 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 1: the three that we have and you know, be comfortable 580 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: with that. 581 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 12: Is it different? 582 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 10: I mean when you look into quarterbacks and seventh rounds, 583 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 10: so you can take a guy in a sixth or 584 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 10: seventh round who can be a special teams guy or 585 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 10: can develop into a niggle back or something, but a quarterback. 586 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 10: I mean when you draft a guy in the later round, 587 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 10: you know, is that something you believe in and you say, well, 588 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 10: I don't know if this guy's ever going to be 589 00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 10: a great. 590 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 9: Starter, but you just adds to the rule, you know 591 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 9: what I mean. It's different because he may not saying 592 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 9: quarterback a quarterback, Yeah, he may. 593 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 10: Not add anything to your team for a couple of years. 594 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 595 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 9: Yeah, it may not be a guy that can win 596 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 9: a Super Bowl for you, but yeah he'll adds to 597 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 9: our rule. 598 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 599 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 12: It's different than other positions, isn't. 600 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: It It is? 601 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not. 602 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: Okay, you're gonna be a backup guard and you're gonna 603 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: go to the game and you can play you know, 604 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: if somebody gets injured, you can go play center or 605 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: guard or you know, there's flexibility to be. 606 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 3: One of those eighth offensive linemens. 607 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: So you know, the hit rate at that position in 608 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: those rounds you're talking about is not high. And you know, 609 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: again you hope typically if you're going to take a 610 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 1: guy down there, that they can develop into a good 611 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: number two. Again, just from a financial aspect, you know, 612 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: Drew's making five million. Well that players in the fifth round, 613 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: if you can develop into a number two, is saving 614 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,239 Speaker 1: you money over a four year period versus you know, 615 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: a ty Rod or Drew or you know whoever some 616 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: of the backup quarterbacks are around the league. 617 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 6: Obviously, obviously you've done a lot of work on the quarterbacks. 618 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 6: What you'r it's been your impression of this group as 619 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 6: a whole from spending a lot of time with them 620 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 6: and also with the guy like JJ McCarthy. The concept 621 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 6: of from the outside people are like, oh, he's rising 622 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:11,959 Speaker 6: up draft boards, right. 623 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 13: They think that. 624 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 6: Through the process, the combine, the pro days and everything, 625 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 6: a player rises up. Is that the you view that 626 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 6: as a case on a grand scheme of things that 627 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 6: guys do do that or is it you had guys already. 628 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 3: In those spots you know beforehand. 629 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 12: No, I think. 630 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: The rising is a thing like that that can happen again, 631 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: just not specifically quarterback only. But we were having a 632 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: conversation about a player yesterday that we had some concerns 633 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: with throughout the fall, but every step along the way, 634 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: they've answered the bell and continue to improve, whether it 635 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: was an All Star game, combine Pro day, visit here, 636 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 1: private workout, continue to answer the bell. So I do 637 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: think the more you're around these players and you get 638 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: comfortable with how they're wired and what they're out like, 639 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: I do think you can give them, you know, the 640 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: push up, and I think you know the quarterback class, 641 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: it's a good it's a good quarterback class. And I 642 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: think it's deep, and you know, you look at some 643 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: of the guys and you know the amount of games 644 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: some of these guys have started and played. I mean, 645 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: it's it's impressive, and you know, you really haven't seen 646 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: a class like that with with some of the quarterbacks 647 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,239 Speaker 1: that have started and played as many games as they 648 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: have at at a high level. So it's been really 649 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: fun getting to know these guys. Again, it's a unique position. 650 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: There's only so many people walking planet Earth that can 651 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: play that position at a high level. So really getting 652 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 1: around these guys, we like to do it every year 653 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: and getting to know them. You know, I think it's important, 654 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: and it's it's not just necessarily this year's draft, but 655 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: you look at some of the past drafts and the 656 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: high picks at that position that were traded or became 657 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: free agents or whatever it may be. I think the 658 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: exposure coming out of college at that position is important, 659 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: and again not just for today, but you know, maybe 660 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: they are free agents or they're going to be traded 661 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: or whatever it may be down the road. So I 662 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: think it's important. 663 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 13: The combine or after the combine. Rich Eison went on 664 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 13: his show and said that all he heard was a 665 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 13: lot of Buyer's remorse from the Giants. He didn't say 666 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 13: from home obviously about the contract given to Daniel. 667 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: And on Monday, Daniel. 668 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 13: Talked to us and he said very confidently he thinks 669 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 13: he is the best quarterback to start this season, assuming 670 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 13: he's healthy for the Giants. Where are you right now? 671 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 13: Maybe small and big picture on Daniel Jones. 672 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, like I said before, the expectation is for him 673 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: to be our starter. Again, I don't have a crystal ball. 674 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: I hope he doesn't have any setbacks. He's working his 675 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: tail off. You know. One of the things that you know, 676 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: you go back and you watch the twenty twenty two season, 677 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: or you know, all of his throws in twenty twenty two, 678 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: like he was a twenty five year old player that 679 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: played at a high level and we won ten games 680 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: and won a playoff game. And I'm still confident in 681 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: Daniel the way he's wired, what he showed us in 682 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. Again, do we have the best start 683 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: to the season last year? Absolutely not. And a lot, 684 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: you know, anything that could have went wrong, it seems 685 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: like it did early on between injuries and and some 686 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: other things. So I've still got a lot of confidence 687 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: in Daniel. 688 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 4: A part of you wonder who told Eyesen that that stuff. 689 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't worry. I mean there's a lot there's 690 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: stuff out there all the time that's not true, and 691 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: you really can't let it bother you. I've got a 692 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: good relationship with Daniel, and we communicate all the time. 693 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: He's again, he's he's here all the time. So we've 694 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: got a good relationship and we communicate well. And you know, 695 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: if he has an issue or hears something or something 696 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: that I think I need to talk to him 697 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 3: About, you know, we do that often.