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At the twenty twenty two NFL 6 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: Scouting Combine in Indianapolis, I'm Mike Keith with Amy Wells, 7 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: and we are joined by coach Dave McGinnis and Rhet 8 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: Brian for an edition of OTP q's on this Saturday. 9 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: Your questions our answers submitted at Tennessee Titans dot Com 10 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: slash otp Q from the ot people, From the otpeople. 11 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: That was really good. Mike aby Wells start us off. 12 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: All right, so we've got some good questions here. The 13 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: first one I'm going to start with is Sam in Nashville. 14 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: He asks why did John Robinson get so emotional during 15 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: his interview? Was there something else that happened that we 16 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: didn't see? What was that about? I don't think there 17 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: was anything else that happened. I think it's the pure 18 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: raw emotion of what I believe Titans fans all over 19 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: the world, and certainly in the Mid South had been 20 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: feeling since the playoff loss to the Bengals. You talk 21 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: about a guy that is fully immersed in his job 22 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: and what he's tasked to do, and he mentioned the 23 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: trust level that Amy Adams Strunk and the ownership group 24 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: have placed in him to be able to do his job. 25 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: He takes it very seriously, and it's evidenced by that 26 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: moment that was captured. It's, you know, it just tells 27 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: me how much he actually does cared. I knew he 28 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: cared before, but if you ever doubted it before, now 29 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: you know it now for sure. God, don't think anybody 30 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, look, I felt him immediately, you know, 31 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: and I can lean on personal experience. You know, when 32 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: I was doing Hard Knox and then Jeff Fisher lost 33 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: his job in LA you know, I did it on 34 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: something that's going to be broadcast worldwide forever and got 35 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: up and just you know, expressed exactly how I felt 36 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: about how, you know, we had let him down. And look, 37 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: when you're in this, you guys are in it, but 38 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: you're immersed in this and it's it's it's your life 39 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: and it's what you're doing and every decision that you 40 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: make your family rides on it, and then you do 41 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: feel a responsibility. I've been a head coach. I know 42 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: that responsibility. You feel not only the ownership, but to 43 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 1: all the fans and to your assistant coach, it to everybody, 44 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: and so I'm like Red. That's why John Robinson, if 45 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: you go back and look and Mike and you you 46 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: know this. You go back and look at his introductory 47 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: press conference when he was named. This means everything to him, 48 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: So I could I felt him heartfelt. I'm sure there 49 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: are multiple things he would have done differently, or that 50 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: he would have tried, or guys that he would have 51 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: brought in, or at different forty eight that he might 52 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: have compiled on game day. You just anything, because that 53 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: loss was so painful. So I think Red hit it. 54 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: It was just remarkable honesty by a guy who is 55 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: remarkably honest. I like it. All right, let's get to 56 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: some more combined centric questions here. This one's from Chris 57 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: and Rhett. I'm gonna send this one your way because 58 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: you have kind of been the chief in charge of 59 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: the podium press conferences through the past week, so I 60 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: think that you'll be able to answer this. This is 61 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: from Chris and Memphis, and he asks who was the 62 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: person who is in the most demand for an interview 63 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: at the combine? What are your thoughts? It would have 64 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: to be Kenny pick at the quarterback he would be one, 65 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: but any of the top stars. Chris Olave, the wide 66 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: receiver from Ohio State had a huge crowd. Evan Neil, 67 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: the tackle from Alabama, huge crowd. The names that you 68 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: would expect had large, large crowds, but some of the 69 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: best soundbites came from the one offs and the guys 70 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: that aren't touted to go and Night one they're going 71 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: to be Day two and Day three guys. A lot 72 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: of great soundbites this week at the combine. If you're 73 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: talking about a non player, you're obviously talking about Dave McGinnis, 74 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: he would be yes, but a close second, I think 75 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: so a guy everybody wants to interview here is Daniel 76 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: Jeremiah from NFL Network. Everybody wants to talk to him. 77 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: We got to and he was part of our Friday otpiece, 78 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: So we're very proud of that. Who do you think 79 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: is more recognized Daniel Jeremiah or Coach Mack. Coach Mac. 80 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: He is the mayor of the combine. I think so too. 81 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: You know that what that says is I'm older than 82 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah. No, no, nope, I'm not buying that. That That 83 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: didn't have anything to do with it. And so I 84 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: have been here to all of it. I'm gonna tell 85 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: you what we should auction off for charity if we 86 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: wanted to get the most money. Is somebody get to 87 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: hang around with you during an entire combine to see 88 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: what it's like to be stopped everywhere we go by 89 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: a new general manager or a new head coach or 90 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: one of your former players. It's the most amazing thing. 91 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: One of the nights that we went to dinner, we 92 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: were finally stopped one too many times and the rest 93 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: of us just went on. Now. Eventually Coach joined us 94 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: because we didn't want him to miss dinner, but we 95 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: just realized we couldn't stand on the street forever. We're 96 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: going to miss our reservation. And Mike the common thread 97 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: in every one of those conversations we heard that week, 98 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: Coach Mack helped me with this. Coach Mac gave me 99 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: a shot at this. Coach Mack did this for me 100 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: in almost every example. I mean, you guys are very kind. 101 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: But that just means I've been around a long again. 102 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: I sold my cows. Ain't buying your bull. That's not 103 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: what we're talking about. There you go. I don't know 104 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: if you auctioned it off for charity. Just whoever buys 105 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: that you should know you will not make a single 106 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: meal reservation on time. You will not. You will not 107 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: do it. You will be hungry. Here's a question, yes, 108 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: for coach Mack, actually about your experiences at the combine. 109 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: This is from Mark. Mark asks Mac when you were 110 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: a head coach, what was your interview style like when 111 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: you were interviewing these players? Were you the good cop? 112 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: Were you the bad cop? Oh? I like this? Where's 113 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: Mark from Frisco? I love this. I love this and 114 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: it's a very it's a very relevant question because the 115 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: good cop bad cop thing is a reality. There's normally 116 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: eight to ten people from your organization, from all different 117 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: aspects of your organization in that room, and these these 118 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: things are very programmed. In other words, you'd program it 119 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: before you go there. And as far as you know, 120 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: say all of us were sitting there and say, okay, 121 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: look when when this linebacker comes in, Mike, You're you're 122 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: you're my defensive coordinator. I want you to be the 123 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: good cop on him. But Amy, you're my linebacker coach. 124 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: And so when as you play off of him, as 125 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: soon as as he accentuates something good, we're going to 126 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: have a clip up here where he does something not 127 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: so good, and I want you into him on it, 128 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: you know, I want you into him on it. And 129 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: then and then you know, my chief scout over here, 130 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: Ashley Farrell, that I want you to bring it back around, 131 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: you know, to to another aspect of it. And then 132 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: and then and then overhear what I want, you know, 133 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: the director of personnel, what I want Rett Brian to 134 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: be able to do now is to bring it back 135 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: as to you know, what's important for him to be here. 136 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: So you program all of these things. And so that's 137 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: what we did. And when when when you do that, 138 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: then you've only got fifteen minutes with them, and you 139 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: know the early part of it. I mean you basically 140 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: got about thirteen because you got two minutes of just 141 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: you know, talking and introducing and doing this then depends 142 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: on how much film you want to watch with them, 143 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: so it's not a very long time. But what you 144 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: can discern is really off of this if you want 145 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: to bring them back for a thirty visit into your 146 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: facility where now you can really dig into them. Is 147 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: that where you have the staff psychologist evaluate them or 148 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: do you also have the staff psychologist evaluate the combined 149 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,119 Speaker 1: interview both. And here's the other thing too. Every club 150 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: that I was with Mike, of course, I've been here 151 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: to every one of them. When I first started, I 152 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: mean it was the Wild West. You were grabbing them 153 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: and I was a young coach there from Mike Ditka. 154 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: I'd go into the hotel rooms and grab them and 155 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: bring them down through the back doors. There was no 156 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: Now that it's organized, what what you do? And you 157 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: film these interviews too. You film them in the room 158 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: so that you have them and can bring them back. 159 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: Of course, now everything goes immediately to you know, to 160 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: wherever your your digital stuff is at your at your facility. 161 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: But yes, I mean you have them in there, you 162 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: absolutely do, Mike, and then you have them as part 163 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: of the process. You and Amy are part of the 164 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: process when they come into the facility. You know, the 165 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: thirty visits. I mean, you want everybody to at least 166 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: have a part of them so that you get different perspectives. 167 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: The more perspectives that you have, you've got one decision maker. 168 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: Our decision maker is John Robinson, but he is a 169 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: gatherer of information, as we all know, and you want 170 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: as much information as you can get from a lot 171 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: of different perspectives. Charles and Nashville asks, aside from the 172 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: interviews in the medicals, what is a drill or are 173 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: there a couple drills that coaches really pay the most 174 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: attention to. Well, it's position specific. It's position specific. If 175 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: we're talking about when you got your quarterbacks, Clearly you're 176 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 1: gonna watch the throws. Throws are very programmed. They've got 177 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: to rate oar gun on their throws so they can 178 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: get spin rate those types of things. And then when 179 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: you're watching receivers, you're seeing how really what you're watching 180 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: is is how long it takes them together to come 181 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: out of the various cuts, because that's important because extra 182 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: steps as a receiver mean extra time to hold on 183 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 1: the ball. Extra time hold on the ball means extra 184 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: time for somebody to get to your quarterback. So you're 185 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: looking at that. Then clearly you're looking see where they 186 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: can track the ball. They have different you know, gauntlet drills. 187 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: They run to see just if they're hand catchers, if 188 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: they're away from the body snatch catchers. That's what you're 189 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: looking at for the receivers. If you're looking at quarterbacks, 190 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: you're looking at accuracy. You're also you're also looking at 191 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: guys that get rid of the ball, because it's easy 192 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: in this when you've got no nothing on you. So 193 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: you put a clock on them to see if they're 194 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: just waiting, waiting, waiting to get the perfect set up, 195 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: perfect throw, or if they're guys that really go through 196 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: actually what you want to do, you know, to get it. 197 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: And again it's very sterile, you know, being able to 198 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: throw the ball defensively. Let's go to the defensive backs. 199 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: You're looking at lower leg flexibility, lower body flexibility. Transition 200 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: ability is what you're really looking for here, which means 201 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: how quick can you go from back to front, you 202 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: know and snap it off? Is an extra step guy? 203 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: Is he a crow step guy? Is he a t 204 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: step guy? You know, all of those things that you 205 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: look at and you have charts that you chart it 206 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: out and look at him, and plus they film everything 207 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 1: so that you can look at it. The thing that 208 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: generates all the interest, clearly is the electronic time. That's 209 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: what everybody can just put their mind on, in their 210 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: face on you know what, immediately you see that guy's fast, 211 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: that guy's not fast. But you know there's some really 212 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: position specific things that you look at position wise that 213 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: you can drill down on. Speaking of those electronic times, 214 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: Carol and Paduca asks, now that the workouts have been 215 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: moved to the evening time slot, does that change the 216 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: way that players prepare throughout the debt? And that's a 217 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: great question, Carol, it really does. And you know, the 218 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: big hullabaloo before we came to this was that they 219 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: were they were only gonna if the players have one 220 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: of their entourage here to help them get prepared. Well, 221 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: you know, they bring their nutritionist here, they bring their 222 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: stretched people here, they bring their start people here, they 223 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: bring all of those people they've been training with. And yes, 224 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 1: it does because they have those people getting them ready 225 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: and they've got a certain time frame, but they get 226 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: ready in to be able to perform. So that's a 227 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: great question. It absolutely is right. Well, it's funny Jack 228 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: Mummerd and I were walking the other day back through 229 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: the corridor to go to the skywalk to our hotel 230 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: and there were players coming at us. They were doing 231 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: warmups for the forty yards sprint in the hallway outside 232 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: the convention center entrance to the hotel. So we got 233 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: run over. It was bad, but it's crazy you got 234 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: these guys. It was like are they waiting on us? 235 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: I mean, we have to go to the hotel and 236 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: this is the way you go. But like we saw 237 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: the same thing. We saw Chris Olave the wide receiver 238 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: from Ohio State with the little mini cones and hitting 239 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: it through there and we're like, okay, I might want 240 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: to wait until he's done, and all right now we 241 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: moved and then then Red hit the three cone very quickly. 242 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: My short area, Can I interrupt here with rhet I'm 243 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: glad Ritt did the three cone because he's already set 244 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: the record here a couple of years ago on the 245 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: bench press. He had forty four times he did the 246 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: bench and we got it on tape if anybody wants 247 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: to go back in the archives and look at it. 248 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: So I mean, good job Rhett on the three cone. 249 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: Thank you, sir, You're welcome. That's really killing the workouts here. 250 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: Speaking of the combine, it has grown so much from 251 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: when it began. Sandy and Crossfelle asks, how did the 252 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: whole combine process start? How did the evaluation of players 253 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: become what it is today? Well, that's it, I know, 254 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 1: because I was in you know, I was here when 255 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: it started. I was at the first one. The first 256 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: one they ever had was that, you know, when I 257 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: got in the league in nineteen eighty six, was in Phoenix. 258 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: It was at Sundevil Stadium. It was outdoors. This time 259 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: of year in Phoenix, you expect you're gonna have a 260 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: great were other monsoon rained out. We had had a 261 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: running back on a square drill blows acl out, Okay, 262 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: and so they said, we can't do this. We've got 263 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: to go somewhere where it's sterile, where we can we 264 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: can get we can get this done. And then, I mean, 265 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: it took them a while to evolve into the organized 266 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: event that it is now. The first year in nineteen 267 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: eighty six, it was the wild West. It was it 268 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: was different. It was way different, you know now and 269 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: now the players were placards where they've got their names, 270 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: and the times, their fifteen minute segments, what rooms they're 271 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 1: going in at the time, and you have runners that 272 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: go to get them, to bring them from one room 273 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: to the other. It's all very organized. Back in the day, 274 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: I was the youngest coach on Mike Difcker's staff. I'd 275 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 1: go their hotel rooms to get them and if their 276 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: roommate in their hotel room was somebody not on our list, 277 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: didn't care, bring them down and talk to him. You know. 278 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: It's evolved, but it came for this and the biggest 279 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: thing that came out of it is everybody was sending 280 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: their doctors and all of their medical people everywhere to 281 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 1: get this information. And now it's it's a centralized medical 282 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: evaluation with everybody. This is what's huge. This is the 283 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: big big thing about it. And then it gives you 284 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: a since it's been here since nineteen eighty seven, it 285 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: gives you a base to compare previous years to this 286 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: year with all of the you know, and it's not 287 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: the end all to be all, but it's so organized now. 288 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: It's so well organized now and everybody knows where to 289 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: go space if you've been going here for a while. 290 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: But it came about because of the expense that was 291 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: starting to generate. First draft I was ever involved in it, 292 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: we had twelve rounds in one day, and we did 293 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: it on the phone. And we've never even seen these guys, 294 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: you know. So it's a different world now. Well, right, 295 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: even in the last say ten years, we've seen the 296 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: combine really grow and change. I mean the amount of 297 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: people who come to Indianapolis who are reporters and writers 298 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: and radio and TV. Everybody ascends on the city now 299 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: to cover this event. I saw the report that I 300 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: think it was seven hundred and fifty credential media for 301 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two combines. So that gives you an idea. 302 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: And it's not just teams or radio or television or 303 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: it's a conglomeration of everything, these online sites, all of it. 304 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's it's really amazing what it's becoming. And listen, 305 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: Roger Goodell and the people on Park Avenue with making 306 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: the NFL a year round thing, they have really done 307 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: a job in doing this again because post pandemic, now 308 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: fans are allowed in. They can see the guys do 309 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: the bench press and run the forty and do all 310 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: those things, and they can see the Lombardi Trophy up 311 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: close in Super Bowl ring displays and do the bench press, 312 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: like try to break my forty four times record there 313 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: at two twenty five. It's become an event. And you know, 314 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: again it's guys in the underwear Olympics here doing their thing, 315 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: getting ready before their pro days, and whoever takes them, 316 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: hopefully they get their name call. But it's amazing to 317 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: see the evolution of this. We have one final question 318 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: here and this one's from Thomas in Montana, and this 319 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with the combine, but I thought 320 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: it was an interesting question. He says, do you think 321 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:09,479 Speaker 1: that Derrick Henry is the most marketable player in titans 322 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: Oiler's history? Yes? Tell me why. The rationale is quite 323 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: simply like Eddie George. He is a Heisman Trophy winner, 324 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: he is, you know, a rusher who has won back 325 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: to back NFL rushing titles. But he's a Southeastern Conference player. 326 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: He's from the state of Florida. He played at Alabama 327 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: at a point in Alabama's history where they are the 328 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: number one program in the country. So I think all 329 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: of that and the unusual play style, the six three 330 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: two fifty stiff arm breaking long runs. I mean, let 331 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: let's face it, if you watch baseball, what do you 332 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: want to see? You want to see a home run. 333 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: This is a guy who can hit a home run 334 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: from anywhere on the field or push you down by 335 00:16:52,720 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: your face. And so he brings a style file to 336 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: it that is almost like a superhero. He's like a 337 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: Marvel character. So for Eddie and for Steve to have 338 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: been what they were, I think he takes it to 339 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: a completely different level because time and place and where 340 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: he is from and how he fits in and the 341 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: social media part of it is now a big thing. 342 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,959 Speaker 1: And the other thing I would say to add to 343 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: Mike is he is a member of the two thousand 344 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: yard rushing club. And because of those stiff arms people 345 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: have seen in primetime games and running for a ninety 346 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: nine yard run, you know, on a primetime game or 347 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: whatever it is, and in those playoff games, he has 348 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: become somewhat of a household name. He's a national People 349 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: in Seattle, Washington that are Seahawks and they know who 350 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry is. Well, if the Titans get picked to 351 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: go to London this year, one of the big reasons 352 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: that at the Titans will be selected will be because 353 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: of Derrick Henry, because he is one of the league's 354 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: most marketable worldwide stars. People around the world know who 355 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry is. Mac. When you have a guy like that, 356 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,959 Speaker 1: it helps boost the entire program, right, Yeah, And I 357 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: can harken back to my first time overseas in a game. 358 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: I went with the Bears. We went to London, you know, 359 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: the first against the Cowboys, and the guy everybody wanted 360 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 1: to see. Dallas Cowboys were there, right, Chicago, Bears were there, 361 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: plenty of stars, but the one that they came from 362 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: Piccadilly Circus all the way down to Trafalgar Square everywhere 363 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: that we were the person they wanted to see, Walter Payton. 364 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: They knew Walter Payton internationally. And that's what Derrick Henry 365 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: is too. And especially now as as Rhett brought up 366 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: the way that the world is connected. Now it's instantaneous 367 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: and he's an anomaly. He is really an anomaly to 368 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: Mike's point, I mean, it's not a scatback, you know, 369 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: it's not a guy that says sometimes, it's just a 370 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: big dude that can run, run, that is physical, that 371 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: brings an element that not everybody can bring. And so 372 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: I think Mike keith answer was one hundred percent correct, 373 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: just like all of his answers are one hundred percent. 374 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: Thank you. Hey, we got some answers from an interesting guy, 375 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: the NFL Networks Football Insider. Interesting guy by the name 376 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: of Mark Ross, who had been in the front offices 377 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: of the Giants, of the Eagles, of the Buffalo Bills, 378 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: actually interviewed to be the Titans general manager in twenty sixteen. 379 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: Impressive guy. A couple of issues we wanted to hit 380 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: with him. Amy Wells and I had a chance to 381 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: visit with him earlier in the week. I think you'll 382 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: be interested in some of this, Mark Ross on the OTP. Mark, 383 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: you have sat in the rooms with NFL teams before, 384 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: when decisions are made and things happen. I want to 385 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: ask about the fact that Chris Greer has come out 386 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 1: and said the Miami Dolphins are not interested in Deshaun Watson. 387 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: All right, So, first of all, for the Dolphins to 388 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: come up with that decision and to be willing to 389 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: go public with it at the combine, what leads to that? 390 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: How does that happen? Well, this is as you know, 391 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: with the Miami and the Deshaun Watson. This has been 392 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: a cloud hanging over them for a year now, and 393 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: with an organization. One of the biggest things you want 394 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: is the ability, especially with the franchise quarterback. So they've 395 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: talked about this from the ownership to the GM to 396 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: the head coach, like what's our best plan? And now 397 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: with the new head coach coming in there and publicly 398 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: stating from day one that he loves Two as this guy, 399 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: he's gonna build around him. He probably conveyed at that 400 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: Chris Greer and Ross to say, look, we need to 401 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: be forward facing with this as well and eliminate the 402 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 1: distractions of this Deshaun Watson situation. So what's best for 403 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: the organization is to have that stability and everyone know 404 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: Two is our guy, for better for worse, and we're 405 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: all going to rally around him, and we're gonna put 406 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: this out there and it's not going to be something 407 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: you have to have as a distraction every day, as 408 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: opposed to we're just moving forward and we don't have 409 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: to deal with this distraction. So for my whole career, 410 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: Donovan McNabb with Philly and Eli Manning in New York 411 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: and everyone knew they were the guy everywhere. You build 412 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: your whole organization around that person and avoid all the 413 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: distractions so they can thrive at their best and that's 414 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: what the Dolphins are doing now with two as opposed to, oh, 415 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: here we go, we got to talk about Deshaun every 416 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: day instead of talking about what has happened in the game. 417 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: All right, So part two of that question. It seemed 418 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: like before the trade deadline, Miami was at least reasonably 419 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: close to trading for Deshaun Watson. Amy and I've talked 420 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: about it extensively. I thought the most likely team that 421 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: he was still going to in this offseason was going 422 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: to be Miami. So now Miami's out. If you're in 423 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: another of those rooms, say you're in Houston's room right now, 424 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: or you're in a team that's considering taking him, what's 425 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: the market for Deshaun Watson? Now that the most likely team, 426 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 1: at least to those of us who are not in 427 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: the know. Now that they're out, what goes on now? Well, 428 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: from day one I've been saying about the Deshaun Watson 429 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: situation is there's a full ball side and then there's 430 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: the legal side from a football side. You break it 431 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: down to, Okay, if they won three first round picks, Okay, 432 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: how many teams actually have the assets to do that. 433 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: Not many. Now you got to pay the guy. How 434 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: many teams have the money to pay him? Not that many. 435 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 1: So when you put those things together, the draft capital 436 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: and the money, there maybe one or two teams that 437 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: actually could actually do it. Now, the other part is 438 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: the legal part, where your owner has to say, we 439 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: are going to take a chance on this guy despite 440 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: all this hanging around. How many owners are thirty two 441 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: owners are going to say, you know what, I want 442 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: to take on that pr nightmare of bringing this guy 443 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: in without all that stuff resolved. So when you put 444 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 1: all those factors together, that the owner has to sign 445 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: off on taking a beating in the media every day, 446 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: and the assets there. I've been saying from day one, 447 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: he's going to be in Houston because you just can't 448 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: take on this risk. Despite it being talking points all 449 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: the time about where he's going, the reality of it 450 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 1: is there really isn't many places that he could actually too. 451 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: Let's zoom out a little bit because once you get 452 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: on the other side of the NFL draft, you have 453 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: all this data, you bring it back to your facility, 454 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: and then free agency starts and there's all these contract 455 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: negotiations to discuss and the use of your capital, whether 456 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 1: it be draft picks or whether it be your cap room, 457 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: and how much money you have. How do teams utilize 458 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: the information that they've gathered at the combine and use 459 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: that to influence some of the decisions that they are 460 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: making from more of a contractual standpoint. Well, the behind 461 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: the scenes that goes on at the combine is everyone 462 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: sees the workouts and that's just a tip of the iceberg. 463 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 1: What's going on here at this event and then all 464 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 1: this behind the scenes stuff, this stuff, the interview, The 465 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: agents are all here, and your cap guy is meeting 466 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: with agents NonStop talking about their players. Other players could 467 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: be free agents, so you're just gathering information is key 468 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: in paramount and relationships as well. So would you have 469 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: the information in the relationships with the agents with the players? 470 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: And Okay, we're building all this and you've had a 471 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: plan up to this point. So you're getting here and 472 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: you're just trying to fine tune a lot of what 473 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: your plan, your off season plan is, just as far 474 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: as okay, how are we going to attack free agency? 475 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: How are we going to attack our own free agents 476 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: to keep them? And you piece those together. Okay, Now 477 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: if we can solve these puzzles in the draft, we 478 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: need to attack it in this sort of way. So 479 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: these are all just kind of building momentum and all 480 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: intertwined with one another, where you're this whole situation and 481 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: the combine is just another part of that, where it's 482 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: just the convenience of it, where everyone's here at one 483 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: time and you can get this stuff done pretty efficiently 484 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: and effectively, from the board, the draft board, to free 485 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: agency to what you think you want to do right 486 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: when the season ends. How much actually changes? Not much? 487 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: You know, I always laugh someone will blow out of 488 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: forty today like he's moving up the draft board. You know, 489 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: it's not as if you guy runs a fast forty 490 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: and you're on your phone your whole staff hate move 491 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: him from the third round up into the first right now. 492 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: It's just more so you've got that plan and it's 493 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: all about fine tuning and massaging it and the nuances 494 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: of the draft and the cap, and it's really that's 495 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: what it is. And if you're making major swings and 496 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: changes based off of little bits of information or one 497 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: forty times, you're doing it the wrong way. You have 498 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 1: to have your plan be steadfast where everyone's together on 499 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: this plan. There's always going to be dissent about it, 500 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: but hey, as long as you're all doing it for 501 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: your team and this is what's best for your team, 502 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: that's what the optimal situation is in building it. Oh, 503 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: I was gonna sneeze. Yeah, I want to talk about 504 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: you a little bit and your journey from the NFL 505 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: front office into broadcasting. What kind of facilitated that and 506 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: how much of your front office experience are you able 507 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: to use as a broadcaster. Well, that's what my role 508 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: as a front office analyst, and that's what they really wanted. 509 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: Everyone sees X players and ex coaches out there on TV, 510 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 1: but the NFL network really did a good job of saying, well, Okay, 511 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 1: there's this whole other aspect that people love. I love 512 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,479 Speaker 1: talking about the draft and free agency. Well, who can 513 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 1: talk about that. It's guys that have actually done it, 514 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: and we're in front offices running draft rooms or making 515 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: decisions about salary cap. That's what they really wanted to 516 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: put a premium on because there was we think and 517 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: they think that there was this thirst for that. And 518 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 1: so yeah, I've been a part of it since I 519 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: was twenty three years old or something. So in three 520 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: different teams one super Bowl. So just the things I've 521 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 1: seen is experience and been a part of I think 522 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: there's a value to talk about that with platforms such 523 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: as this. So it's not easy doing media stuff is 524 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 1: a skill. It's a learned skill, and you have to 525 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: practice it and you have to do it and you 526 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: get better at it. And I think I've gotten better 527 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: at it from when I first started. And people just 528 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,719 Speaker 1: think you just go out there and talk, and it's like, no, 529 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: it's not that easy. You have to practice it and 530 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: learn it. Just like a player has to learn how 531 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: to get better, a coach has to learn how to 532 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 1: get better this media situation as well, because people feel like, well, 533 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: this guy is here, just do this, not realizing that 534 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: they're dominoes in every area. If you do this, then 535 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: you can't do this or you have to let go 536 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: of this guy. And some teams in some ways we're 537 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: almost talking about Houston. Back to the original part of 538 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: the conversation. They're really trapped. They don't have certain options 539 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 1: because what's Deshaun Watson's dead cap gonna mean to the 540 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: Houston Texans. That's the part you're talking about explaining to 541 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: people that they know what move one might be, but 542 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: they don't know the resulting two, three, four, five, six. Yeah, 543 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 1: it's just as you've mentioned. Since we're talking about quarterbacks. Okay, 544 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: whether there eight nine teams that think they have a 545 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: great quarterback Greek, now the rest of the NFL needs one, 546 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: like we need a good quarterback. Okay, where are they now? Now? Okay, 547 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: if you look at the three agent landscape, well, is 548 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,239 Speaker 1: anyone better that? No? They look at the draft? Are 549 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: they better than the guy we have? No? And we're 550 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 1: talking about your guy here. We just use him as 551 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: an example, Ryan Tanneil for better or worse. You love him, 552 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: don't love him? Like? Okay, well who's better than him? 553 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: So as a fan, it's easy to just say, let's 554 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: just get rid of this guy and move on. But 555 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 1: as a front office person, you have to look at 556 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: the entire landscape and the pieces that fall in the place, 557 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: where how do we get that person and where is 558 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: that person that's better than who we have? And then 559 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: also with the draft, where it's just trade down and 560 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 1: go and do all this and that and all right, 561 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: Number one, you need a team that's willing to trade 562 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: with you. Number two, you have to work out the compensation, 563 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: that's right. Number three Okay, if you do trade down 564 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: or there's players there that you can take and will 565 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: they help you. So yeah, all the little nuances and 566 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: behind the scenes that it's easy for fans to just 567 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: to say and do. No, there's actually really moving parts 568 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: to how all this works. It's more than just running 569 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: fast and jumping high. It takes a lot more to it, Yeah, exactly. 570 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: And it's in building a team or finding a player. 571 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: It's it's all at Just as I mentioned, this is 572 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: the tip of the iceberg. What you see on TV 573 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: building a team, it's just a tip of the iceberg 574 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: and stuff you see or hear about. It's a whole 575 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: lot of other nuances to it. Good stuff. The OTP. 576 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: Hughes and Mark Ross on a Saturday edition of the OTP. 577 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: No Sunday edition, but we'll have one on Monday. No, 578 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: it's the Lord's Day, so we're taking a day. We'll 579 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: see your money undoubtedly for coach Dave McGinnis, Red Bryant, 580 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: Ashley Farrell and Jack Mumbered. I'm Mike Keith, thanking you 581 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: for listening to the od T Beeping. Welcome to the 582 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: big show where the legends go. 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