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Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast Loves. Welcome back to another

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Speaker 1: edition of the Around the League Podcast. My name is

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Speaker 1: Dan Hansis, and I'm joined by a room filled with heroes,

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling, Mark Sessler, and Greg Roseatal. What up, boys,

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Speaker 1: Hey Dan, listening to you dance on the Gold Standards

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Speaker 1: Grave over here? What you been? Gold Standards Grave? You

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Speaker 1: deleted him from instant Messenger. It was shame. It was

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Speaker 1: you forgot his name, departed producer. Yeah, no, that's not

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Speaker 1: true at all. I was having fun. Again. This is

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Speaker 1: the second time today that I'm having to explain this

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Speaker 1: to my colleagues. That is absurdist humor that I'm working

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Speaker 1: with them. Maybe he is not connecting with the guys

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Speaker 1: that work. I like to call it subhuman behavior. Um. Alright,

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Speaker 1: so welcome to Friday's show, The Around the League Podcast. UM.

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Speaker 1: World Cup has begun. People are excited. Gold Standard are

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Speaker 1: now former erstwhile producer. Obviously I connected the dots. His

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Speaker 1: last day was the day before the World Cup began,

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Speaker 1: so we understand why he ended the way he ended.

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Speaker 1: We will always remember Zach Goldman, but we have to

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Speaker 1: move forward to three of us will always remember and

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Speaker 1: we will well the three of you will. So we

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Speaker 1: got a nice show today. The World Cup is going on,

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Speaker 1: but we're still about the American football first and foremost.

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Speaker 1: Although we respect the quote beautiful game. We do because

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Speaker 1: we have so many international listeners. We've received some crazy

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Speaker 1: numbers of the people that listen to us overseas. So yes,

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Speaker 1: and thank you so much. Thank you Denmark, Denmark forty

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Speaker 1: over our listeners overseas and the seven guys listening in

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Speaker 1: China for some reason. You know, that's pretty nice thing

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Speaker 1: that you did. Well. We were thinking this links nicely

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Speaker 1: with the potential that we might have to go to

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Speaker 1: one of these NFL games in London. Of the people

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Speaker 1: we got to start up a movement to go cover those.

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Speaker 1: Usually we're trying to watch out for the Shadowy League figures,

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Speaker 1: but I want announcement for the Shadowy League figures. Listen.

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Speaker 1: We have a great reach into other nations. We can

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Speaker 1: be your ambassadors. If you let us send us to Europe,

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Speaker 1: send us to Australia, send us to Denmark. We will

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Speaker 1: make the game bigger and we will make it truly

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Speaker 1: the beautiful game in the NFL I would love to

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Speaker 1: go to Denmark. Read like a couple of Bill Bryson.

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Speaker 1: They just seem like very nice people. What is the

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Speaker 1: Sweden is big Swedish people? What is Denmark? What do

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Speaker 1: you call them? They're Danish? Danish that you're starting from scratch. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you're drunk in Denmark and out of order, the

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Speaker 1: police don't harass you. They help you back into your home.

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Speaker 1: By the dons, take a nice fisture. We're up in

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Speaker 1: Weybridge in Surrey, England, and I have not been back since.

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Speaker 1: So Shadowy leave figure full paid flight. Let's go. All right,

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Speaker 1: that's on Greg the boss, to figure this out. Big

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Speaker 1: show today, Big show folks. You're gonna enjoy it. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna do more talk about are making the Leap series

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Speaker 1: do the news. And before we get to the news,

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Speaker 1: behind the glass now and hopefully forever, ending the curse

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Speaker 1: through more than spinal tap goes through drummers. He is

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Speaker 1: t D. What's going on, guys, and we have a

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Speaker 1: lot of shared listenership between our show and the Dave

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Speaker 1: podcasts in the future. Twelve Time is a charm. So yes,

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Speaker 1: and uh, why don't we get it going? T D

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Speaker 1: that issue can't be taught off, that that can't be corrected.

428
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 1: It's a good question because I don't always think drop

429
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 1: rate is something that's predictable. You know, Roddy White a

430
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 1: couple of years ago lead the NFL and drops the

431
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 1: next year had just one. But then you have guys

432
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 1: like Troy Williamson, who was drafted number seven overall couldn't catch.

433
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: He just couldn't catch. And you, if you're a wide receiver,

434
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 1: you have to be able to do it. Let me

435
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: throw out a few over unders here, you, gentleman, think

436
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 1: Justin Hunter seventy reception way under. Yeah, I'd go under.

437
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,199
Speaker 1: He's just not that kind of receiver. He's not a

438
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,199
Speaker 1: possession guy. Even at his best, he's gonna be just

439
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 1: catching long, long passes. Eight hundred yards over under. That's

440
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 1: a good spot to pick him. But I'm definitely going over.

441
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: If I'm going making the lead better, I think he'll

442
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 1: be a nine hundred of thousand yard type of receiver.

443
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 1: I'm going under six tds over. I might go over

444
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: for that one. Yeah, he got four last year, so

445
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: I put it through the machine. Forty seven catches, eight

446
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: hundred and fourteen yards and seven touchdowns. Good comparison. A

447
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: guy who was never an absolute stud, but the analysts

448
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: didn't like the metrics crowd didn't like him as much.

449
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: Chris Chambers made a lot of spectacular catches but always

450
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 1: had to catch rate like below. It sounds like your

451
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: suggestion that he'll be a better fantasy guy than he

452
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: is maybe an actual player this season will meet out. Yeah,

453
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: that at all, And it's part of this situation Tennessee.

454
00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 1: Even bad offenses find thirty yards of passing, and I

455
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 1: just don't see where else it's come around yards. Last

456
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: year with three different quarterbacks what happens when Bishop Sanky

457
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: steps on Hunter's ankle in week three? Out there? Situationally,

458
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: you never know what's wrong with you. I'm just listen.

459
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 1: I am just asking a question. Yeah, but you when

460
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: you doom players to serious injury? Did I do? I

461
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: didn't say this will happen? And just listen. It's weird

462
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: because you're such an optimistic guy, nicest guy in the office,

463
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: all this stuff, and then when we put on the headphones,

464
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: you just are wishing doom on half the NFL. He

465
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 1: can't control the feelings to bubble up from inside of him.

466
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Speaker 1: Thank you, t D. Do you see that the man

467
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,479
Speaker 1: is He's difficult to read Mark Seessler, always has been.

468
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 1: He's an injury guyser. Oh might have to turn my

469
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: body language gaze on him from over the DDFP. He's

470
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: able to read body language. What are you seeing right now?

471
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 1: By the way, right now, what I'm seeing from Mark

472
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: and what I'm seeing from the guys, I'm seeing guys

473
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: are into the show. It's it's weird actually been here

474
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: doing the production, you know, And I see Gregg's looking

475
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 1: up Google with some stuff. I don't know what he's

476
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 1: really doing on there. I can see his screen and uh, Dan,

477
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 1: you're all right, that's good, all right, nice good body language.

478
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: An update analysis from TV. Al Right, gentlemen, So let's

479
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: let's move on. So O T A S and Mini

480
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: camp going on right now? What is it? Seven teams

481
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: this week had mandatory mini camp and O T A

482
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: S are continuing. Let's go through, go through some teams,

483
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 1: go through some cities, and we'll pick out some rookies

484
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 1: and that are making some waves. I guess good or

485
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Speaker 1: bad in a segment we like to call rookie. It's

486
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: kind of creepy. Yeah, a little bit creepy little people

487
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: have let us know that keeps them up at night. Whisp.

488
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 1: We like to keep our listeners on their toes and

489
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: also up at night. We like to just like just

490
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: a terrible experience for the people listening to the show.

491
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: That's what we go for. Anyway, Why don't we go

492
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: around the room a little bit? Uh, we're all, you know,

493
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 1: surfing the web all day. It s like a sixty

494
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:24,239
Speaker 1: four year old drama the Internet. Surfing the web, your

495
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: Google machine, looking for riding on the old Information and

496
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: super Highway. You've got mail, we are we're you know,

497
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 1: we're doing our research, so we're coming across some interesting nuggets.

498
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: Who wants to jump in with something that they've seen

499
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: or read in the past few days. Chris Wessling raises

500
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: his hand like a good boy. D Ford Chiefs outside

501
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: linebacker drafted twenty three overall, it's beginning to look like

502
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: he should have been drafted in the top ten. Drawing

503
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: comparisons to Von Miller and Hall of Famer Derek Thomas.

504
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: The first step that has been described as scary. So

505
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: this is one of those shorts and T shirt stories.

506
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: It's tough to get West to buy in. We're sitting

507
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: downstairs and he's like a fly swatter, just knocking down

508
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: everyone's ideas for a post because he's not buying the

509
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: summer hype. But I'm with you for the most part.

510
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: But this time you're buying. What's the difference of this story.

511
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: I think when you see it from all corners of

512
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: the organization. He's getting hype from the general manager of

513
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: the coach. Teammates, multiple teammates are just you know, guys

514
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 1: like Tom Bolie. He's a threat to Tom bole snaps

515
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: and all these comparing him to Derek Thomas and It's interesting.

516
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: This was a team that a lot of us pegged

517
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: would go after a wide receiver. They really need one

518
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: in that offense, needs a game changer, and and yet

519
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: they went out and drafted a position that is relatively

520
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: stocked with talents. So you're right, from head to toe,

521
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: the team and the whole front office must have said,

522
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: we can't pass on this guy. Should be a fun

523
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: pass rest to watch. They fell off at the end

524
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: of last year. That's one of the big questions for

525
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: me about that division, which chiefs defense? Is it the

526
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: one from the first half for the second half, Because

527
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: if those three guys justin Houston, Tom Bolee, and Dford

528
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,479
Speaker 1: are all rolling at the same time, that's about as

529
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: good a group as there is in the NFL for

530
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: a top three. Right, Yeah, that's crazy. Let's throwout another name.

531
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to Arizona and pick out John Brown,

532
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: wide receiver out of Pittsburgh State. And when Pittsburgh State

533
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: drops the h at the end, a weird move, right

534
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: because it's not necessarily the one you're thinking of. Yeah,

535
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: come on, you agree, though it threw me for a

536
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: loop when I saw it in the in the post.

537
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: Later on certain that I had made a spelling mistake,

538
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: but I had not. Uh another guy drawing favorable comparisons

539
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: to an established starter, this time to t Y Hilton,

540
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: because their dimensions are exactly the same, and they both

541
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: have I dentical four three four speed, and they have

542
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: the same coach and Bruce Arians in terms of a

543
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: guy that's set Hilton free, they are lining him up

544
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: and people are saying that he's just been blowing the

545
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: doors off that team. For me, I am excited to

546
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,959
Speaker 1: watch them because you've got Ellington out of the backfield,

547
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: a really fast guy. Then you've got they've added Tedgain,

548
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: You've got John Brown here, I think is gonna see

549
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: snaps and oh, by the way, Larry Fitzgerald and Michael Floyd.

550
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: Interesting team in the NFC West. It's not your fault, Mark,

551
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: but this has Peter Stink, Peter King stink all over it.

552
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: Why that, Why is that Peter King touted him as

553
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: a guy you have to draft in your late rounds

554
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: or your fantasy draft. And we know the Peter King stink.

555
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got Jabbar Gaffney, Eddie Royal. I mean,

556
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: if Peter King advises you to draft him, he's not

557
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: gonna be good. A tie will come where Chris Wesley

558
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: and Peter King will be on a big mountaintop with

559
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: game of throne swords just going at each other. You're

560
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna want to put your money on me. I

561
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: got a feeling I would you know Peter King that

562
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: a fantasy guy when he's touting a number four wide

563
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: receiver or number three who at his best? If John

564
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: Brown exceeds all expectations, he's getting what six and fifty

565
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: yards and he's not a guy you're starting in your

566
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: fantasy league. He's gonna be an interesting guy to help

567
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: the Cardinals have one of the best receiver groups in

568
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: the league. But Mark, do you draft him? Please? Do

569
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: you really think he's getting more snaps than Ted Ginn?

570
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: I think that's the obstacle to him. But I guess

571
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: I'm not looking just this season down the road. He

572
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: is absolutely Gain's replacement if he is what they think

573
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: he is. And then if you're the number three receiver

574
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: in a passing offense, I don't they have four wide

575
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: receivers on the field a lot, And I don't know

576
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: if Gain's gonna be on the field every snap. I

577
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: mean they don't use their tight ends to catch passes.

578
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: They like spreading, not like in his Victor Cruz standing

579
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: and keep that window open. From my boy Carson Palmer

580
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: and Greg, I think after last season, Ted Ginn did

581
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: some things. You gatted a little bit of begrudging respect

582
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: for Mr Gain I love again last year. Yeah, I

583
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: think we all did. Let me throw a name out there.

584
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: I have a feeling I know which team. I think

585
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: you guys know that. I am a New York Jets

586
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: fan and I am excited about what's going on in

587
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: this secondary. For years, this team is struggled to identify

588
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: strong safety play. They've had great cornerbacks in recent years,

589
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: or maybe last year is not a good example, but uh,

590
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: they have failed to address safety it really ever since

591
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: Jim Leonard broke his leg a couple of years back.

592
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: Now they've got Calvin Pryor, and Calvin Pryor of course,

593
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: was taken with their first pick, uh in nineteenth overall,

594
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: and we have ESPN's Lewis Riddick heard is hearing? Whe

595
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: did you say? Lewis Riddick said that the and this

596
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: is Mark Sessler's writing, you know, this is Sessler pros

597
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: the hammer dropping run Stuffer has been quote special and

598
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: you know now we're gonna get us to see pads

599
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: next month and you're gonna see how he really hits.

600
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: This guy's an enforcer. Rex Ryan is gonna fall in

601
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: love with him, and this could be the guy that

602
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: finally gives a new identity to the secondary post Rebus.

603
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: And I'm all in. I was on the Dave Damashek

604
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: football program yesterday and we dropped our All A f

605
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: C East team, TD's first Love damage. But you already

606
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: like us better? Right, Come on, I wouldn't say damn

607
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: love first jobs fair. We were we were looking around

608
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: for the All A f C East team at safety.

609
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: We had no other choices but to go with Calvin Prior,

610
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: partly because of the summer hype, largely because there wasn't

611
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: many options after Devin mccordy. But the reason I love

612
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: this choice Dan is Rex Ryan's great with safeties. I

613
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: mean you just look at look at his history. He's

614
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: done a great job coaching up safety. Anyone that coaches

615
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: up Jim Leonard enough to the point that you actually

616
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: think that was a change in the organization when he left,

617
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: that's pretty good. Yeah, and uh Rich Schmini reported. I

618
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: think it was Samini that reported that when the Ravens,

619
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: who picked directly before the Jets, passed on prior the Jets,

620
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: war room just exploded because they had fallen in love

621
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: with him prior to the draft. He was the guy

622
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: that they had targeted, uh if they were going to

623
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: pick a defender. And and now they have him and

624
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: we get to see what Rex can do with a

625
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: guy that could be a stud talent. Speaking of war

626
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: rooms exploding, when the traded up to draft Jordan Matthews

627
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 1: in the second round, there were high fives exchanged up

628
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: and down the hallways. You're falling for Matthews too this summer.

629
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: I am. I am falling up you know, go out

630
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: of honor? Well they you know, no, I like it.

631
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: One of the local writers tweeted earlier this week that

632
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: Jordan Matthews has been the most impressive wide receiver in

633
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: Eagles offseason practices, which says a lot about him, but

634
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: also isn't surprising and effect that Macklin's coming back from

635
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: a c L surgery. Riley Cooper's talent is the's Riley Cooper.

636
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: He's a little bit underwhelming as far as your best

637
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: wide receiver. So and I think you know Jordan Matthews

638
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: also a film junkie, weight room junkie and holds the

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Speaker 1: SEC record for receptions and receiving yards. He had just

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Speaker 1: about everything you want, size, speed, production, and he'll be

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Speaker 1: playing out of the slot, which is a nice little

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Speaker 1: spot to be in that offense. Those are the guys

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Speaker 1: just seem maybe it just seems that way. It seems

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Speaker 1: like rookies have a better time breaking into the league

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Speaker 1: right away if they're playing on the inside, not the as.

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Speaker 1: You also have to keep in mind what Matthews has

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Speaker 1: going for him, which is remote controlled cars zipping over

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Speaker 1: the field, really getting ahead of the game while everyone

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Speaker 1: else is basically in the cave man stages. Chip Kelly

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Speaker 1: has revolutionized the game with a couple of you know,

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Speaker 1: C batteries. Congratulations, Buddy Dan has gotten to full troll

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Speaker 1: wow with the Eagles fan base. He hates you all,

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Speaker 1: not you guys. Can I drop one last name? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think we know. Ryan Shazier is making Pittsburgh's defense faster.

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Speaker 1: We've gone down that road. But on offense, little five

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Speaker 1: foot seven three quarters dree Archers and Sessler's making a

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Speaker 1: little motion. I do not buy this business about him

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Speaker 1: being a miniature Jamal Charles because he hadn't he didn't

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Speaker 1: have a college season where he had more than fourteen

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Speaker 1: touches on offense. But we did, Chris and I watch

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Speaker 1: some of his kick return action downstairs, and this guy

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Speaker 1: can fly. Pittsburgh hasn't had that like absolute electric gadget

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Speaker 1: type player in a while, and I think that he

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Speaker 1: he might see one or two offensive touches. I think

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Speaker 1: special teams though special teams. You know, the fantasy guys

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Speaker 1: have been kind of saying this guy is not that

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Speaker 1: big of a deal. And that's true. He's not going

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Speaker 1: to be a big fantasy thing. But the comparison to

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Speaker 1: Mel Gray, one of the most exciting football players of

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Speaker 1: the early to mid nineties, great kickoff return, I like

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Speaker 1: an NFL player that is shorter than I am West

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Speaker 1: and settlers that Okay, if Greg chimes in with the name, oh,

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Speaker 1: I do not picked one yet at all. Right, enjoyed

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Speaker 1: the show. I hear about the sounds great. Please roll

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Speaker 1: off a couple names. No, while you know, I just

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Speaker 1: have one while you're you know, talking about all the

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Speaker 1: big names John Brown and Dree archer. Why don't we

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Speaker 1: talk about a little guy named Johnny Manziel at some

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Speaker 1: point wrapped up his off season this week at mandatory

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Speaker 1: mining camp. So he's done. Uh, what do we take

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Speaker 1: from his first off season? When I listened to the

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Speaker 1: reports out of Cleveland, seems like, you know, struggled a

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Speaker 1: little bit in the ways that you expect rookies to

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Speaker 1: struggle going through his reads. Was kind of locked in

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Speaker 1: on his first read and Brian Hoyer still ahead. Are

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Speaker 1: you at all worried, for instance, Chris Wesseling, that Hoyer

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Speaker 1: could still keep that lead? Of course, Chris Westley has

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Speaker 1: put a pair of softball pants on the line. He

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Speaker 1: was nylon, that is rubber, that is composite parts that

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Speaker 1: is metal, zipper all going into Westling's digestive track. If

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Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer starting week one paths, yeah, it doesn't surprise

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Speaker 1: me that Brian Hoyer goes through his progressions faster than

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Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel. I agree, I don't. That's a June story.

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Speaker 1: Wait till August, when the live bullets are flying and

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Speaker 1: Johnny Manzel's escaping sacks while Howyer is a sitting duck.

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Speaker 1: Beatt and Petton by the way laid it out there

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Speaker 1: as clear as possible that he said that Hoyer is ahead,

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Speaker 1: but with the exact wording was insurmountable. This is not

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Speaker 1: an insurmountable situation from Menzel, so it's still wide open.

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Speaker 1: He's not even taking eleven on eleven snaps. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer is coming back from a c L surgery,

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Speaker 1: which Chris always points out, and it's a great point,

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Speaker 1: and he's not even taking the first team snaps because

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Speaker 1: he's not healthy enough. I like, I liked that the

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Speaker 1: Browns are manufacturing drama to a situation that really doesn't

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Speaker 1: have much Mark. I know you went back this week

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Speaker 1: and uh, I had a little Hoyer party in the office. Well, no,

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Speaker 1: I want. I wanted just to watch his stuff, and

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Speaker 1: I think that it's easy to forget that he himself

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Speaker 1: is a project with not a lot of starts under

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Speaker 1: his belt on any level, and he is a smarter

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Speaker 1: player than any quarterback they had last season. I think

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Speaker 1: that's why he's stuck out where you when you're competing

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Speaker 1: for the fan, the heart of the fan base against

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Speaker 1: Brandon Wheeden and Jason Campbell, it's not hard. He moved

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Speaker 1: the ball, he does go through his reads. That's something

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Speaker 1: that's the positive. But there's nothing special about Brian Hoyer

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Speaker 1: necessarily on tape. Johnny Manzel, as soon as he starts

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Speaker 1: making those plays, I don't care what he doesn't practice.

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Speaker 1: To be honest, this is a guy that I think

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Speaker 1: when you put him out in the field, we're just

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Speaker 1: gonna see what he does. And it's like the fans

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Speaker 1: are never gonna settle for Brian Hoyer being the quarterback

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Speaker 1: for the first eight weeks of the season. What about

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Speaker 1: Mark your thoughts and the rest of the gentleman in

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Speaker 1: the room on my observation earlier today that Brian Hoyer

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Speaker 1: is a dead ringer for Alt rock Star Live lead

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Speaker 1: singer Ed Koalzeck. That's fair, like you know references I

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Speaker 1: a copper Throwing Copper was an excellent album either, Nick

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Speaker 1: that was like, that's his favorite band of all the time.

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Speaker 1: Live toured with Counting Crows h for summers and did

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Speaker 1: they packed it in when I were you know, much younger,

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Speaker 1: much younger. They rocked it at Jones Beach in New

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Speaker 1: York and people still talk about that. This was during

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Speaker 1: my malem so my taste in music might not have

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Speaker 1: been evolutionary. When when Adam Derret's The County Crows came

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Speaker 1: out on stage when Live was playing, the Dolphins cry,

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody, uh, there was not a dry

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Speaker 1: hy dry eye in the house. I could, I could.

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Speaker 1: Dolphinsky Live is one step above the band that did

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Speaker 1: Closing Time. That would be Son. That's another good band.

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Speaker 1: Come on, Craig, he said, that will be by the way.

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Speaker 1: That lead singer came from a great band called Trip Shakespeare.

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Speaker 1: That's very closing time, by the way, And this is

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Speaker 1: app for you. Dan is about a woman giving birth.

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Speaker 1: It's about a baby leaving the womb, and it's called

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Speaker 1: closing time on that experience. Also what lightning crashes us about.

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Speaker 1: And we tied all together on the Around the League podcast.

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Speaker 1: That's it. We gotta get out on that. It's a

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Speaker 1: good thing. They don't track listenership throughout the podcast because

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Speaker 1: everyone has turned it off by now. The way nineties

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Speaker 1: all rock was the best. All right, that's it. That's

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Speaker 1: it for today's show. T D. Welcome aboard. We're very

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Speaker 1: happy to have you, and we don't want you to

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Speaker 1: go away, so please don't go. I'm here, guys, I'm

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Speaker 1: here for the long call. That is so good to hear. Actually,

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Speaker 1: that's it for Friday show. We will be back on Monday,

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Speaker 1: So hanging there. Enjoy your weekends. Everybody, watch plenty of

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Speaker 1: football and uh, whatever you want to do. I don't

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Speaker 1: care to stay out of trouble. That's it for today's show.

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Speaker 1: Signing up for the Mailman, the Sizzler, the Boss and

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Speaker 1: t date behind the Glass until Monday. All right, how

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Speaker 1: about like a sensitive look. It's still gotta be with Spur.

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Speaker 1: I've still got to be a whisper, right,