1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: This is the Blueberg Daybake You podcast, available every morning 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: on Apples, Spotify or wherever you listen. It's Thursday, the 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: second of May in London. I'm Caroline Hepkin. 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: And I'm Stephen Carroll. Coming up today, The Federal Reserve 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 2: chief Jerown Pal says he wants to see more evidence 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: inflation is cooling before moving to cut rates. 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: Traders push back against another suspected yen intervention by the 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: Japanese government. 9 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: Plus not working out Tesla Pull's internship offers as Musk 10 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: continues his drive to reduce headcount, Let's. 11 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: Start with a roundup of our top stories. 12 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: The Federal Reserve charge your Own Power has downplayed the 13 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: prospect of further rate hikes while keeping hopes alive for 14 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: a cut this year. The comments come after officials unanimously 15 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 2: decided to leave rates on hold following a slew of 16 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: data that pointed to lingering price pressures in the US economy. 17 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: Speaking after the policy announcement, Pal consider that the Fed 18 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: won't be able to reduce borrowing costs as soon as 19 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: previously forecast. 20 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 3: We do not expect that it will be appropriate to 21 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 3: reduce the target range for the Federal funds rate until 22 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 3: we have gained greater confidence that inflation is moving sustainably 23 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 3: toward two percent. So far this year, the data have 24 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 3: not given us that greater confidence. In particular, and as 25 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 3: I noted, earlier readings on inflation have come in above expectations, 26 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 3: it is likely that gaining such greater confidence will take 27 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 3: longer than previously expected. 28 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: During the press conference, Pile also gave clear guidance that 29 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,919 Speaker 2: he expects the FAD to keep borrowing costs elevated for longer, 30 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 2: rather than raising them again. 31 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 3: I do think it's clear that policy is restrictive, and 32 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 3: we believe over time it will be sufficiently restrictive. That 33 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 3: will be a question that the data will have to answer. 34 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 3: I think it's unlikely that the next policy rate move 35 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 3: will be a hike. 36 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: Those remarks from Piles sooths investors who'd worried the Fed 37 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: might react more aggressively to signs that inflation progress has stalled. However, 38 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: three straight months of disappointing inflation figures have driven a 39 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: major repricing of interest rate xctations, with futures markets now 40 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: showing just one cost this year. 41 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: A surge in the Japanese and in late New York 42 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: trading has traders wondering if Japan is intervening in the 43 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: market again. The Can'tcy moved three percent to hit one 44 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty three per dollar before weakening. Blueberg's rates 45 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: reporter Michael Wilson has been talking to traders who think 46 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: the state had a hand in the moves. 47 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 4: I spoke to a couple of chaps in New York 48 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 4: before they went home and that what they described at 49 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 4: what they saw was much like what happened on Monday. 50 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 4: And you know a situation where you know, Dollian would 51 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 4: say around one fifty five, seventy, just pick a number, 52 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 4: you know, suddenly office would come in, some of which 53 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 4: came from Japanese banks all the way like twenty points 54 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 4: through the level, at least ten points through the level. Now, 55 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 4: that's not typically how the Japanese banks, you know, clear 56 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 4: their business. It does seem predatory in terms of, you know, 57 00:02:58,639 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 4: the effect on the market. 58 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: Wilson says that we'll only know for sure when the 59 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: government confirms any FX action. Looking ahead, the likelihood of 60 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: sharp moves in the market during a looming four day 61 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: holiday in Japan and also London markets being closed on 62 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: Monday may also have been a concern for Japan's currency officials. 63 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: Standard Charters has reported adjusted pre tax profit of two 64 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 2: point one three billion dollars for the first three months 65 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four, beating analyst expectations. That's a twenty 66 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 2: five percent increase on last year's number. The banks on 67 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: increased income from corporate and investment banking alongside its wealth 68 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: and retail divisions. 69 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: The Federal Reserve and other top us regulators plan on 70 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: finalizing bank capital rules despite strong pushback from the sector. 71 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Banking regulation reporter Katanga Johnson says that there had 72 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: been talk of scrapping the plan. 73 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 5: Whilst we have been waiting. After regulators said in March 74 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 5: that they would make broad material changes to the plan. 75 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 5: They waited to see whether that meant withdrawing it, scrapping 76 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 5: it all together and putting a new one forward. Agencies 77 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 5: will not be scrapping their plan. Instead, they'll be making changes, 78 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 5: including in particular market risk and what that particular gapital 79 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 5: requirement would be. But the discussions are still ongoing and 80 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 5: it could be finalized as soon as August. At least 81 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 5: some corners of Washington are pushing for. 82 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: That Johnson adds that this comes in spite of a 83 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: FIC lobbying campaign form of the financial world. Under the 84 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: old proposal, the largest US banks would face about a 85 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: nineteen percent increase in how much capital they must hold 86 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: in order to buffer themselves against losses. US administrative law 87 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: requires any changes don't stray too significantly from what was 88 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: originally planned. 89 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: Voters in England and Wales had to the polls today 90 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: for local elections that could give clues as to the 91 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 2: performance of political parties in the upcoming general election. Polling 92 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: stations are open from seven am to ten pm, with 93 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: elections in one hundred and seven local authorities and ten 94 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 2: mayoral races taking place. Results of our expectors start coming 95 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: in early on Friday morning, with the count in some 96 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 2: areas continuing through to Sunday. 97 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: The UK is beating the odds and attracting growing foreign 98 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: direct investment that as its European peers see a decline 99 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: in new externally funded projects. Bloombergs Tea Adebayo has the details. 100 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 6: Foreign direct investment is stalling across Europe. The number of 101 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,119 Speaker 6: projects is down fourteen percent from its twenty seventeen peak. 102 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 6: That's according to consultancy firm Ey, who say the figures 103 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 6: should act as a wake up call for the region. 104 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 6: But the UK, it seems, is bucking the trend, attracting 105 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 6: nine hundred and eighty five FDI projects in twenty twenty three, 106 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 6: six percent more than the year before. That number puts 107 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,679 Speaker 6: the country second in the European Foreign Investment League tables, 108 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 6: behind France. A sharp increase in software and IT investment 109 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 6: in London could be behind the boost in London. Do 110 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 6: you add a Bayo Boomberg Radio. 111 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 2: And Tesla is rescinding internship offers just weeks before candidates 112 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: are due to start. It comes as the firm goes 113 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 2: through a series of sweeping job cuts and acted by 114 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 2: CEO Elon Musk. Provoking internships isn't likely to save Tesla 115 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 2: a lot of money. According to Glassdoor, the automaker typically 116 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 2: offers eighteen dollars to twenty eight dollars an hour for 117 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 2: the positions. Now, in a moment, we'll dig into what 118 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 2: we heard from the Fed charge your own Powell at 119 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 2: yesterday's meeting, plus look at the latest moves that we've 120 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 2: seen in the Yen. But the story that caught our 121 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: eye this morning very close to my heart about restaurant bookings. 122 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 2: If you think things in London are bad and how 123 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: foreign advance, you have to try and book to get 124 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 2: a place in a restaurant. Our opinion columnist Harod try 125 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: One has been writing about the latest phenomenon in New York, 126 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 2: which is a secondary market for bookings where people are 127 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 2: paying to get spots at top eteries that other people 128 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 2: have already booked. You make the booking and then you 129 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 2: resell it. 130 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: So you have to be like a ticket master. 131 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 2: Or out there online trying to get your place in 132 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 2: the restaurant. But Howard's pointed to system that's used at 133 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 2: some high end restaurants in Japan, which he says could 134 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: provide inspirations for others. And this is no first time bookings, 135 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: So if you want to get in, you have to 136 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: either be a regular or be invited by a regular. 137 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 2: And if you pass muster on your first visit as 138 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: a guest of somebody who they know and like, then 139 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:26,119 Speaker 2: you may be invited to book yourself for your return visit. 140 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: So the idea is for the restaurants they get a 141 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: regular clientele. For those who go there, you know, they 142 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: get to they know what the food is and then 143 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: the chef and the diners are all happy. That's the 144 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 2: idea anyway, But Howard points out that's not really in 145 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 2: line with the Western ideal of perpetual growth and the 146 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: magic escalator of scalability. But it could work for those 147 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: who want to keep themselves off the radar. There's a 148 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: great story in the piece, which I won't spoil, about 149 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: Howard's trip to a restaurant called Sugita and Tokyo, one 150 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 2: of those regular only places. Whether or not he gets 151 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 2: invited back, you'll have to read the piece to find out. 152 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: How does one pass muster in a restaurant these days? 153 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: Not quite sure. I think London's still obsessed with the 154 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: celebrity chef. In fact, I've I've put a table on 155 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: Saturday night for one such day. 156 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 5: There we go. 157 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: Read that story on the Blueberg Tournament. A bit of 158 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: fun for you this morning. Let's get on though, with 159 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: the business of things out of the US yesterday, gaining 160 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,559 Speaker 1: confidence that inflation is falling towards the target will take 161 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: longer than previously expected. That was the message from Jeroam Power, 162 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: who signaled rates will remain higher for longer, but that 163 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: a hike is unlikely to be the Fed's next move. 164 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: Blueberg's TV anchor Kritti Gupta is with us this morning 165 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: to go over everything that we heard about yesterday from 166 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: the Fed on the rate path. Was this meeting what 167 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: you described as nothing Burger, keeping that kind of restauranting theme. 168 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 7: I appreciate that you called it nothing burger. 169 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 5: I love when Fritz to do that. 170 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 7: Yes, in that the cuts or if you say, the 171 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 7: rate decision didn't actually move right. They kept a rate steady, 172 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 7: so that made a lot of sense. It also reiterated 173 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 7: this idea that hikes are not in the near future 174 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 7: for the Federal Reserve, and I think that was kind 175 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 7: of the changing point for a lot of this press conference, 176 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 7: simply because the expectation going into the conference, as we 177 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 7: know and as we discussed twenty four hours ago, was 178 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 7: simply that there may be a case for a hike. 179 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 7: J Powell doing a very good job of throwing cold 180 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 7: water on that, saying if the bars even higher, that 181 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 7: policy rates are still very restrictive. That hasn't eroded the 182 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 7: ability of the tool itself. And that's a really important 183 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 7: piece of the equation because one of the arguments that 184 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 7: was made in terms of a hike was that maybe 185 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 7: things aren't restrictive enough because the US economy is outperforming. 186 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 7: That being said, what got really interesting was the really 187 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 7: really nerdy piece of QT, and I think that is 188 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 7: I found the most fascinating part because of some of 189 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 7: the analysis that came out after Basically they're halting the 190 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 7: pace of QT the runoff essentially, which means that it's 191 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 7: not quite q E, but it has more of a 192 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 7: less hawkish effect than it did previously. Obviously, I love 193 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 7: what Alberto Gallo or Andromeda Capital said. He says, keeping 194 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 7: front end rates high while tapering QT is like pulling 195 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 7: the handbrake while pushing the accelerator pedal, So essentially moving 196 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 7: kind of the two year yield, which you have seen 197 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 7: move in response to kind of this hawkishness and this 198 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 7: resilience in the data, while still kind of creating that 199 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 7: liquidity and that easing in the back end of the curve. 200 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 7: What it does is kind of manipulate the way the 201 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 7: curve moves to some extent, kind of jawbone to guide 202 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 7: markets where they want to go. That's a pretty big 203 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 7: deal when we're talking about whether or not these are 204 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 7: early signs of this kind of more easier monetary policy 205 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 7: that is coming down the road. When it comes to 206 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 7: the actual rate cut, though, that seems me moved further 207 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 7: and further. 208 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: Oh so the question of how do you send a 209 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 2: segment to the markets without sending a segment on interest rates? 210 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 2: Essentially is what the Fed appears to have don't have? 211 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: What do the markets look at next? 212 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 7: Then the next data point payrolls, I suppose on Friday. 213 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 7: What's important to keep about this? Keep about about this idea. 214 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 7: I'm gonna get my words right this morning. But basically 215 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 7: what you need to keep in mind here is that 216 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 7: basically the cuts are now one cut is now priced 217 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 7: in forward December. So one of the key pieces here 218 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 7: is that does the Fed kind of back themselves into 219 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 7: a corner because they are still sticking to this narrative 220 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 7: that the inflationary trend is not an acceleration of inflation. 221 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 7: It is still on the kind of paths of deceleration. However, 222 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 7: they are saying it's taking longer and longer to get 223 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 7: to that two percent inflation target, and that's where the 224 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 7: concern lies. Where do cuts then go into twenty twenty 225 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 7: five that meets with election risk to what extent does 226 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 7: payrolls even matter if the FED is going to be 227 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 7: sticking to that easier policy. 228 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so that's on the FED. The other story 229 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: that was of interest, and we gave you a little 230 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: snippet of it around the rules for bank capital, which 231 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: has been a huge deal on Wall Street, and it 232 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 1: looks like the whole plans are not going to be scrapped. 233 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: There's still going to be a drive basically for the 234 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: banks to hold more capital, especially the kind of larger banks. 235 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: You know, thoughts on that and when we're going to 236 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: get the decision as well. 237 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, one of those pieces of significance here is these 238 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 7: kind of reserve ratios that were initially going to be 239 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 7: bumped up. Was initially a move in response to the 240 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 7: Silicon Valley bank story, and it was this idea that 241 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 7: you needed more capital to prevent bank runs, to prevent 242 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 7: basically these big losses you sar kind of the Archagos 243 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 7: deal with Credit Suisse involved as well. So there are 244 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 7: a lot of concerns around the fact that some of 245 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 7: the big banks could have some sort of GFC two 246 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 7: point zero kind of moment. The issue with that, though, 247 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 7: is that is also essentially restrictive policy because it means 248 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 7: less lending ability into the rest of the economy. The 249 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 7: fact that they're pulling back on that and they're not 250 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 7: making as stringent of those rules is also a positive. 251 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 7: It's stimulative and therefore kind of in that easing camp. However, 252 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 7: that could change going into twenty twenty five again because 253 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 7: they're going to be reevaluating the story and the banks. 254 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 7: Jamie Diamond in particular has come across a lot of pushback, 255 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 7: especially on Congress, in terms of just how secure they 256 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 7: are in terms of that cushion that they need. 257 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 2: Okay, Christy goope to thank you very much, Bimberg TV 258 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 2: anchor bringing its details. 259 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: Now, we've had another suspected currency intervention by Japanese authorities, 260 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: saw the yen strengthen suddenly before then facing further selling pressure. 261 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: Our executive editor for Asian Markets, Paul Dobson joins us 262 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: now for more, just take us through the scale of 263 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 1: the moves that we've seen in the Japanese Yeah, and 264 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: I mean it's the dope fight. The third issue, isn't it? 265 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 8: Well a little bit, although the currency market seems pretty 266 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 8: willing to take the Japanese authorities on to a certain extent, 267 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 8: but what we saw in the last few minutes of 268 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 8: the New York trading session was quite a pronounced move 269 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 8: again stronger for the yen, about a five yen move, 270 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 8: which is typically the sort of impact and scale and 271 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 8: scope of change that you would see with an intervention 272 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 8: by those authorities looking to give it a little bit 273 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 8: of a boost. Based on that, the evidence suggests that 274 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 8: it's a second intervention by the authorities this week, a 275 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 8: second attempt to stop the yen from continuing with this 276 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 8: weakening path. The problem that they face is almost immediately 277 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 8: once that was over, the weakening began again, and we 278 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 8: already you know, took back at about one percent of 279 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 8: those advances that we saw in those last minutes of 280 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 8: the New York session, And so it points to this 281 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 8: idea that still the trend is very much for a 282 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 8: week again, and so the impact or the influence that 283 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 8: the authorities can have is is going to be tested 284 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 8: at the very least. 285 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 2: Does that is that likely to put them off doing 286 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 2: it again? Though, Paul, I mean, could we see further 287 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: interventions like this? Of course, they haven't officially confirmed it, 288 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 2: Japan's top currency official telling us that he had nothing 289 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 2: to say about whether they'd intervened. 290 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 8: Quite right, they haven't confirmed it, although a lot of 291 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 8: the data, including a look at the current account that's 292 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 8: published about the Bank of Japan, points in that direction. No, 293 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 8: I don't think that it's going to deter them from 294 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 8: doing it. Now that they've started, it makes it much 295 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 8: more likely that they're going to continue on this path 296 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 8: until they get the message across. Even if all they 297 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 8: can hope is to slow the pace of depreciation of 298 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 8: the yen, that's still probably a good reason to get 299 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 8: involved at this point, to try to keep the market 300 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 8: guessing a little bit, which is part of the reason 301 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 8: why there isn't any kind of admission of what the 302 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 8: action looks like, keep the market guessing, keep traders a 303 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 8: little bit nervous. What they really want, more than anything 304 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 8: else is to avoid speculative trading. 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