Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're gonna look great in
Speaker 1: silver and black. I'm Greg Rosenthal and I'm talking to
Speaker 1: my buddy Nick Shook, just hours before the negotiating period
Speaker 1: between NFL teams and free agents officially begin. And yet Nick,
Speaker 1: it's already started. We got trades, we got big free
Speaker 1: agent signings. We've got an arrest and we'll throw that
Speaker 1: in the mix as well, and we've got a million
Speaker 1: re signings.
Speaker 2: Cap space is being spent like absolute crazy.
Speaker 1: And yes, I'm referring to what my new favorite team,
Speaker 1: the Raiders did acquiring Geno Smith. No one I'd rather
Speaker 1: talk about this, all this stuff too than you. Nick.
Speaker 3: I'm happy to be here at the last six hours
Speaker 3: here on Sunday. It's just been absolute chaos and it's
Speaker 3: only gonna get more chaotic as the week begins. But
Speaker 3: we have so much to talk about, so let's not
Speaker 3: even waste any time. Get ready, Yes, Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1: We're gonna try to speed through this because look, this
Speaker 1: week is going to move fast. We have shows every day, obviously,
Speaker 1: keep it tuned to NFL Network for free agency friends.
Speaker 1: I'm going to be doing insiders all week and we'll
Speaker 1: have daily shows, and look, these are the moves that
Speaker 1: we're going to be talking about for the next four
Speaker 1: or five months. More news happened on Sunday, then will
Speaker 1: happen from May through July, so we'll give you the
Speaker 1: top line stuff. And yes, it was a week and
Speaker 1: long battle between what would lead the show. I figured
Speaker 1: it's just going to be Gino That's what I'm referring
Speaker 1: to for new listeners. I love me some Gino Smith.
Speaker 1: I don't know if the Raiders are going to be
Speaker 1: my favorite team, but I'm definitely pulling for them. But
Speaker 1: then it was Devonte Adams who took away the beginning
Speaker 1: of the show going to the Rams. Thought that's fresher.
Speaker 1: We got to lead with that. I mean, Miles Garrett
Speaker 1: staying that was a good candidate. But ultimately we're actually
Speaker 1: going back to the Pacific Northwest because it's not just
Speaker 1: Gino Smith that's no longer in Seattle. DK metcalf is
Speaker 1: a member of the Pittsburgh Steelers. All they had to
Speaker 1: give up was a second round draft pick in terms
Speaker 1: of trade compensation, but they did have to give up
Speaker 1: a one hundred and fifty million dollar contract total. It
Speaker 1: was an extension four for one thirty two. And it's
Speaker 1: the type of move the Steelers just haven't made that
Speaker 1: often in the Mike Tomlin era. So I know Steelers
Speaker 1: fans are gonna be pumped, but they have made it before.
Speaker 1: Remember they sent a first for Minka Fitzpatrick that worked
Speaker 1: out well. Do you think this one will work out.
Speaker 2: Just as well?
Speaker 3: I mean, you know DK was underused in Seattle last year.
Speaker 3: The question for me is fit because of receiver type.
Speaker 3: But this is also a Steelers offense that was going
Speaker 3: to benefit from any acquisition of any receiver. They heavily
Speaker 3: leaned on George Pickens, Russell Wilson, especially last year. Calvin
Speaker 3: Austin was probably their next best option. It just kind
Speaker 3: of fell off a cliff from there. You add DK
Speaker 3: to the mix. Now you can't just focus all your
Speaker 3: attention on We got to stop Pickens. We got to
Speaker 3: take Pickens away and deal with Pat Fryermuth. Now we
Speaker 3: got to deal with both of these guys, big targets,
Speaker 3: big playmakers, one more of a spectacular catchmaker than the others,
Speaker 3: slightly more in Pickens, and I think it just helps
Speaker 3: them overall. But the other question is is Who's throwing
Speaker 3: them the ball. Now, it's fantastic, but who's gonna throw
Speaker 3: in the football? We still to find that out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, someone will, And that's what i'd caution with all
Speaker 1: these moves. Although I understand why Seattle fans are so
Speaker 1: frustrated right now. They were not happy with the Gino
Speaker 1: Smith trade. It's not fun to see DK Metcalf go
Speaker 1: out the window. I share your frustration, and I'm skeptical
Speaker 1: of where this is going. And yet I would caution
Speaker 1: to wait till the end of this week at the
Speaker 1: very least, to see what the full plan is going
Speaker 1: to be. Ultimately, DK Metcalf should be a Steeler for
Speaker 1: longer than George Pickens in a world where George Pickens
Speaker 1: gets it all together, he gets a long term deal
Speaker 1: and they're both working there together, going deep down the field. Heck,
Speaker 1: that would work pretty well with Russell Wilson, not justin fields,
Speaker 1: but it probably work even best with a quarterback that's
Speaker 1: in college right now, or maybe is even in the draft.
Speaker 1: What I found fascinating about this is that the Seahawks
Speaker 1: didn't want to give dk Metcalf that contract, and so
Speaker 1: when people say what they only got a second for Dk.
Speaker 2: They only got a third for Gino.
Speaker 1: I want to stop making this point over and over,
Speaker 1: but the reason the draft compensation is not that high
Speaker 1: is because it's the contract they're getting off that salary.
Speaker 1: They do not want to give Dk Metcalf that contract
Speaker 1: or probably anything close to it. He wanted and now
Speaker 1: was the time to pay him that contract, and so
Speaker 1: it's a team willing to give him that money, which
Speaker 1: again I'm a little surprised that it's the Steelers plus
Speaker 1: the pick, and ultimately they get a second round pick
Speaker 1: where they took Dk Metcalf back in the day when
Speaker 1: him and his boy AJ Brown were for some reason
Speaker 1: ignored by you know, draftnicks in the NFL, despite being
Speaker 1: a two like two Greek gods who are very good
Speaker 1: in college. Yeah, I just I'm surprised. Can't be thrilled
Speaker 1: with it as a Browns fan either. It doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like a normal type of Steelers move.
Speaker 2: No, it's not.
Speaker 3: But it also indicates where the Steelers are as a franchise,
Speaker 3: which is, look, we kind of allowed ourselves to be
Speaker 3: in a position where we didn't have quality options opposite
Speaker 3: George Pickens last year. We don't know if George Pickens
Speaker 3: is ever going to figure it all out mentally and emotionally.
Speaker 3: We know he's an incredibly talented player, so why now
Speaker 3: go get a guy who at least has proven that
Speaker 3: you can handle that. Now, that's not to say the
Speaker 3: DK hasn't caused his own drama, because he has in Seattle.
Speaker 2: Maybe with that money and a change.
Speaker 3: Of scenery in the right quarterback, it all gets eased
Speaker 3: and it ends up being a great move. But it
Speaker 3: definitely to me says the Steelers are not okay with
Speaker 3: just making the playoffs anymore. They actually want to win
Speaker 3: that playoff game.
Speaker 1: You know what's interesting, I've noticed there's been no reporting
Speaker 1: on the guaranteed money on DK Metcalf's deal, yet that
Speaker 1: is usually a sign that it's more team friendly than
Speaker 1: you expect. So here five for one fifty right overall,
Speaker 1: it's thirty per year, right near the top, but the
Speaker 1: extension is actually four for one thirty two even higher.
Speaker 1: That's probably backloaded. Maybe the guaranteed money isn't actually up
Speaker 1: there with some of the very best receivers in the league.
Speaker 1: That's why we're not getting the reporting on it.
Speaker 2: Yet.
Speaker 1: We'll see DK didn't get everything he wanted. He wanted
Speaker 1: to play for a warm weather city. He wanted to
Speaker 1: play for a contender. He went one ish for two.
Speaker 1: I mean they're contender. Yeah, I mean they're kind of
Speaker 1: the AFC Seahawks, you know, a nine to ten win
Speaker 1: type of team.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: DK also wanted to go somewhere with a more stable
Speaker 1: quarterback situation. Reportedly, he must have known Geno was on
Speaker 1: his way out from Seattle because that was a day
Speaker 1: before that.
Speaker 2: He did not land somewhere.
Speaker 1: The Seahawks getting off Geno and DK is so risky
Speaker 1: for John Schneider and let's transition to Geno there, because
Speaker 1: I think you got to view these in tandem forties
Speaker 1: and free agents. The new podcast got a lot of
Speaker 1: great feedback. Appreciate everyone that listened. If you missed it,
Speaker 1: I'm doing a new podcast with Daniel Jeremiah should be
Speaker 1: in the NFL Daily Feed. And he really thought during
Speaker 1: that show that Gino was going somewhere. I threwout the
Speaker 1: Raiders were just the logical pick. But you know, DJ
Speaker 1: was all over that they didn't want to pay Gino
Speaker 1: at the extension that he was due either, and they
Speaker 1: got him for a late third the ninety second pick
Speaker 1: in the draft. We haven't seen the reports on what
Speaker 1: Gino's gonna get financially, but supposedly he's getting a multi
Speaker 1: year offer. I think it's safe to say he'll have
Speaker 1: guaranteed money through at least two years of the deal,
Speaker 1: and to see her, Seahawks weren't willing to do that.
Speaker 1: And suddenly this mini era in Seattle, which I think
Speaker 1: the fans really enjoyed. They were like a fun hipster
Speaker 1: team but didn't really go anywhere but overachieved. Suddenly he's gone,
Speaker 1: and you just wonder. Mike McDonald was very like out
Speaker 1: there saying Gino was his guy. He's not going anywhere.
Speaker 1: Without knowing too much, I do wonder is the coach
Speaker 1: and the GM totally aligned on this. Clearly the coach
Speaker 1: has to be down with whatever the plan is, but
Speaker 1: I believe John Schneider holds a really heavy stick there.
Speaker 1: He is one of the more powerful gms in the league,
Speaker 1: and he did not want Gino and DK long term.
Speaker 2: Apparently a little surprising.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think with the DK, you know, requesting
Speaker 3: the trade, the drama that had preceded him with not
Speaker 3: getting enough targets earlier in the season and everything else
Speaker 3: that they've dealt with. I can understand that you don't
Speaker 3: want to hand him that contract he you might want
Speaker 3: to invest that elsewhere.
Speaker 2: But with Genne like a.
Speaker 1: Slightly limited player before we move on, Like he is
Speaker 1: a top twenty receiver, maybe even top fifteen. But he's
Speaker 1: not aj Brown, He's not DeVante Adams in his prime.
Speaker 1: He can't do everything. He's very good at what he does,
Speaker 1: all right, sorry for and.
Speaker 3: He's not going to make the money that some of
Speaker 3: those other guys are gonna make, even if he wants it.
Speaker 3: So I understand trying to rid yourself of that drama
Speaker 3: and trying to capitalize on what he's worth. They were
Speaker 3: never going to get a one for him, by the way,
Speaker 3: because of, like you said, the contract. So I think
Speaker 3: this is decent compensation for him, only a two, I
Speaker 3: guess whatever. But with Gina, well, what that signals to
Speaker 3: me is that we realize we've maximized what we've gotten
Speaker 3: out of him. We realized that when he was on
Speaker 3: the team as a backup and then proved himself to
Speaker 3: be good enough to be a starter, we rewarded him.
Speaker 3: We gave him the contract extension, but it wasn't super
Speaker 3: long term was three years and we saw him play
Speaker 3: good enough to keep us competitive. And we both love
Speaker 3: Gino here, but we also can admit that Gino was
Speaker 3: inconsistent or a little bit volatile at times, especially last season.
Speaker 3: There were some games in which the Rams game, for example,
Speaker 3: where his mistakes cost them a game and in a
Speaker 3: tight division race, he can't afford that. The problem with that, though,
Speaker 3: is what is your alternative? You throw yourself into a
Speaker 3: very precarious position. But I understand why you might want
Speaker 3: to move on. And it also speaks to the Raiders
Speaker 3: knowing that they don't have They don't like Aidan O'Connell.
Speaker 3: They need something better because they want to be competive.
Speaker 1: Now we'll get to the Raiders side of it in
Speaker 1: a second. And these were the biggest moves of the
Speaker 1: weekend in terms of shifting completely what you think of
Speaker 1: two organizations, in terms of the Geno trade and the
Speaker 1: Seahawks organization even more getting rid of DK. First of all,
Speaker 1: how dare you talk about that Rams game? I challenge
Speaker 1: you to go watch the first three quarters of that
Speaker 1: game and tell me who the better quarterback was in
Speaker 1: that game, Gino or Matthew Stafford. He blew up at
Speaker 1: the end, but that game was difficult at the end,
Speaker 1: Yeah he did, and Stafford flipped it. That game was typical.
Speaker 1: And I know there's like a Gino fan in me
Speaker 1: that's obviously biased, but there's a lot of Seahawks fans
Speaker 1: that are there too, And there's a lot of people
Speaker 1: that I think know a lot about football that aren't fans,
Speaker 1: particularly either, that recognize how Gino is playing with one
Speaker 1: hand behind his back for most of his Seattle run,
Speaker 1: including last year. Like all the numbers like the on
Speaker 1: target throw percentage, things like that. The next level things
Speaker 1: that he's asked to do are so high level. And
Speaker 1: his numbers when he's not against pressure are outstanding, and
Speaker 1: his ability to survive against quick pressure statistically we're outstanding.
Speaker 1: That was the case in that game for instance. Now
Speaker 1: there's part of us out there, the Geno hive that
Speaker 1: worries Seattle's now you know, gonna fix their offensive line.
Speaker 1: Whoever comes in their next is actually gonna they're gonna
Speaker 1: invest in the offensive line. The scheme with Clint Kubiak
Speaker 1: is gonna make more sense and protect the quarterback a
Speaker 1: little bit, and it won't be the tough situation that
Speaker 1: Gino played with.
Speaker 2: We will see.
Speaker 1: There is part of me that wants to at least
Speaker 1: slightly defend Seattle in terms of what they're thinking. I
Speaker 1: think it's going to be very hard for them to
Speaker 1: find a quarterback better than Geno Smith for this year
Speaker 1: or next. I do think they need to, you know,
Speaker 1: think about restarting in terms of a young player at
Speaker 1: the position. And I do think bringing in Clint Kubiak
Speaker 1: this was as dramatic a scheme change, and Gino's been
Speaker 1: through a different one basically every year he's you know,
Speaker 1: the last three or four years. There does he fit
Speaker 1: that Shanahan style, you know, back to the defense, like
Speaker 1: you know, the wide zone, and what Kubiak wants to do,
Speaker 1: is he like the perfect quarterback for that scheme compared
Speaker 1: to let's say Sam Donald at potentially half the price
Speaker 1: or two thirds of the price. That's what I expect
Speaker 1: to happen. That's what everyone expects to happen at this point.
Speaker 1: The money is going to be very interesting. That to
Speaker 1: me is at least a reasonable thought. Even though I
Speaker 1: believe Geno to be a superior overall quarterback for that
Speaker 1: scheme and where they are. Neither one of them maybe
Speaker 1: is their long long term answer and they'll spend that
Speaker 1: money elsewhere. If you're a Seahawks fan, I think that's
Speaker 1: at least what you're hoping for.
Speaker 3: Yeah, both can be and are true, and I think
Speaker 3: that it's just an example of Schneider realizing that we
Speaker 3: need a retool, like you just said, and also accepting
Speaker 3: the fact that you're not going to invest long term
Speaker 3: money when the fit is not there. So I think
Speaker 3: that they're first in line for Sam Donald. But the
Speaker 3: thing is is that's not guaranteed. We saw what he
Speaker 3: did in this last two games. So if their goal
Speaker 3: is investing the offensive line, give him solid protection, and
Speaker 3: then he fits this scheme better than I see the vision.
Speaker 3: The next question, though, is who is he throwing to,
Speaker 3: because all you have left now legitimately is Jackson Smith
Speaker 3: and jigbu. Now, are you a team that'suddenly in the
Speaker 3: receiver market in the draft and you want to go
Speaker 3: grab another Ohio State guy in a Mecca a BUCA.
Speaker 3: I mean, that would work out for perfectly fine, but
Speaker 3: you're still lacking a little bit.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: Then again, all you really need is to in a
Speaker 3: tight end and they've got that. That's what Samdronold did
Speaker 3: in Minnesota and it worked out great.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jackson Smith and jigbut is great. And I think
Speaker 1: his ascendance to the number one target in Seattle was
Speaker 1: part of that DK trade.
Speaker 2: Maybe DK wasn't going to handle that well, Yeah, that
Speaker 2: kind of wasn't.
Speaker 1: I also think you have to just look at Gino
Speaker 1: Smith's age. He's still bawling. I disagree about him taking
Speaker 1: a step back last year. I thought he played fantastic
Speaker 1: last year. I thought it his worst year in Seattle
Speaker 1: was twenty twenty three. That to me, especially the first
Speaker 1: half of that year was concerning, and I thought he
Speaker 1: bounced back there. But the turnover where he plays really
Speaker 1: cranked up there. For the most part, though, I think
Speaker 1: his ceiling, his floor is consistently better than Sam Darnold
Speaker 1: we had him on QB Island. I think he's been
Speaker 1: about a top to ten twelve quarterback. But he's turning
Speaker 1: thirty five this year. Not everyone is gonna be Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: And so let's flip to the Raider side of things,
Speaker 1: because I do want to get through this show and
Speaker 1: get it out there.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: The Raiders I think made an absolutely awesome move here
Speaker 1: that should make everyone, including my trainer.
Speaker 2: They're going to send you a here.
Speaker 1: So happy because Gino can ball. And what is this
Speaker 1: cap space doing? I think it the best deals in
Speaker 1: free agency, and this is kind of free agency for them.
Speaker 2: They give up a late third.
Speaker 1: Are these short term veteran deals for guys who you
Speaker 1: know can play, and just spends that cap space immediately.
Speaker 1: There's no dead money in the future. It's like DeVante Adams.
Speaker 1: They just get better. Now it's not my money. They
Speaker 1: have one hundred million dollars in cap space. What is
Speaker 1: the point, Like, literally, what is the point of that.
Speaker 1: They're so much better at the most important position. They
Speaker 1: would have been so much better. They would have been
Speaker 1: better with Jacoby Brissett, they would have been better with
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford.
Speaker 2: They're so much better with Gino.
Speaker 1: It's with a coach that got the best out of Gino,
Speaker 1: and I think it just gives them a chance. People
Speaker 1: are like, yeah, but they're not going to go to
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. You're a freaking you're a Raiders fan,
Speaker 1: Like you're going to be pumped if they win nine
Speaker 1: or ten games or just know that you have a
Speaker 1: chance to win every game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the connections were there too, obviously, Pete Carroll being
Speaker 3: the one who had him as his backup and realized
Speaker 3: that he would be the better option when they moved
Speaker 3: on from Russell Wilson. So that connection is obvious. And
Speaker 3: it's also the sense of urgency to turn this team
Speaker 3: from a bottom theedter into something that's at least watchable
Speaker 3: and fun to watch and not depending on maybe drafting
Speaker 3: Shooter or Sanders or somebody else in the first round.
Speaker 3: Giving yourself an immediate option to be competitive now, yes,
Speaker 3: you have other areas to address. You still have a
Speaker 3: tiny receiving cores, you don't have a running back that
Speaker 3: you can rely on right now, but at least you
Speaker 3: have the quarterback.
Speaker 2: That's the first step, and you got the rest of
Speaker 2: the week. You got the rest of the week for that.
Speaker 1: By the way, they also gave Adam Butler a three year,
Speaker 1: fifteen million dollar extension. A lot of the guys that
Speaker 1: you know aren't big names getting extensions. More on that later.
Speaker 1: He's a defensive tackle for them, But the Raiders like
Speaker 1: they know ball. You know who knows ball better than
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll? It was ball better than tom Brady. Tom
Speaker 1: Brady was doing those Geno games, and he's like, that's
Speaker 1: a real quarterback. You have to say, he's kind of
Speaker 1: like tom Brady's handpick guy after Stafford. I mean, they
Speaker 1: wanted Stafford first, but he gave him the stamp. We
Speaker 1: heard that they really weren't that into Darnold. He was
Speaker 1: into Gino, and I think I think it is a
Speaker 1: statement a little bit on shouldar standards, which is totally fair,
Speaker 1: like why would you expect most rookie quarterbacks that aren't
Speaker 1: a Jayden Daniels or a highly touted guy to step
Speaker 1: in and be as good as a guy like Gino
Speaker 1: who's been borderline or actually making the Pro Bowl the
Speaker 1: last couple of years. So we'll see how the rest
Speaker 1: of the team build goes together. But love what they're doing.
Speaker 1: While we're with Seattle, before where we go to the
Speaker 1: other big stories, just want to mention Ernest Jones is
Speaker 1: back with Seattle three for thirty three fifteen million dollars guaranteed.
Speaker 1: Like that contract. Off ball linebackers suddenly are getting paid again.
Speaker 1: A bunch of them signed this weekend with their teams.
Speaker 1: I mentioned how it was a good off ball linebacker class,
Speaker 1: and once a couple of them got contracts, they all
Speaker 1: slid in at similar money. So good for him after
Speaker 1: getting traded a couple times. And Jaron Reed, who is
Speaker 1: a good veteran player, got quote up to twenty five
Speaker 1: million on a three year contract, but scant details there.
Speaker 1: It's probably more like a one year deal. But that's
Speaker 1: a guy that will help that defense. So again, it
Speaker 1: tells me Mike McDonald's kind of getting what he wants
Speaker 1: on the defensive side. I'm not sure he's getting what
Speaker 1: he wants on the offensive side. Let's go to another
Speaker 1: team in their division. Davonte Adams is a member of
Speaker 1: the Rams. What are your thoughts on this one? Shooky,
Speaker 1: pure shock. I obviously he wanted to go to the
Speaker 1: West Coast. That was made very obvious and apparent when
Speaker 1: he moved on from the Jets.
Speaker 3: But the Hacker fans were holding out hope that he'd
Speaker 3: go back to Green Bay. And yet that doesn't get done.
Speaker 3: He goes to the Rams. He follows in the footsteps
Speaker 3: of I guess Odell Beckham junior, but with more upside
Speaker 3: at this point in his career. And it all makes
Speaker 3: a lot of sense, and it also fills the void
Speaker 3: that you're expecting to exist when they move on from
Speaker 3: Cooper Cup. So it's a perfect landing spot for him.
Speaker 3: He's a guy who followed Aaron Rodgers out of what
Speaker 3: was a terrible situation in Vegas to New York, didn't
Speaker 3: produce until like the last four games of the year
Speaker 3: and when it really didn't matter anymore. Now he goes
Speaker 3: to the team that made the divisional round of the playoffs,
Speaker 3: that has Matthew Stafford Beck all the momentums going in
Speaker 3: the Rams direction. Your daughter's got to be pleased. The
Speaker 3: whole Rosenthal household has to be ecstatic. It's gonna be fun.
Speaker 3: What I won two punch DeVante Adams and Pooka a
Speaker 3: cool let's do it two great round yeaps.
Speaker 1: We were at I was at a kid's birthday party
Speaker 1: at David Busters with my Sonny, and I told a
Speaker 1: couple kids who I knew, including Walker, into football, and
Speaker 1: I told him to like, no way, because there's only
Speaker 1: so many DeVante adams Is out there that just have
Speaker 1: like that sort of name value. I love this deal
Speaker 1: so much for the Rams. It's twenty six million dollars guaranteed,
Speaker 1: but it's only two for fifty two. I think it's
Speaker 1: six guaranteed into next year, so it's really a one
Speaker 1: year deal. And that looks like big money, but the
Speaker 1: way this market is shaking out, that's actually like borderline
Speaker 1: one two money. It's not even top tier one money.
Speaker 1: And I think that's where DeVante Adams fits now, and
Speaker 1: maybe he fits even a little below that, but that's
Speaker 1: okay because of what I just said before about spending
Speaker 1: the copspace on short term deals for veterans. They just
Speaker 1: brought Stafford back on a one year deal. DeVante Adams
Speaker 1: at worst is a one of the best number two
Speaker 1: receivers in the league immediately, and on this team, he's
Speaker 1: absolutely a number two receiver. You want to know why
Speaker 1: you can afford a number two receiver this much, even
Speaker 1: when you're paying two to at well ten million dollars
Speaker 1: Because Pooka a Coua is a fifth round pick. You're
Speaker 1: saving more money on Pooka Akua to a number one
Speaker 1: receiver contract than you are with some of these quarterback contracts.
Speaker 2: So I just love it.
Speaker 1: I think like a couple of the dads at the
Speaker 1: party were like, yeah, but isn't he kind of a pain?
Speaker 1: Is any kind of a diva wan and Bone.
Speaker 2: No, he's actually not.
Speaker 1: I was like, no, man, he's just like he's just
Speaker 1: a truly great player that if stuff is really mishandled
Speaker 1: around him, like he's going to want to get to
Speaker 1: a better situation. But I respect that because he's one
Speaker 1: of the smartest, most hard working players of his generation.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: And I love this combination even if he's if he's
Speaker 1: eighty percent of the old Davante, I'm in.
Speaker 3: No, exactly like you said, Stafford, in a one year deal,
Speaker 3: you are winning now. When your quarterback is on a
Speaker 3: one year deal and he's near the tail end of
Speaker 3: his career but he can still produce, you are winning now.
Speaker 3: You make these moves now, it's a perfect fit. I'm
Speaker 3: excited to see where it goes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think they're going to be done either.
Speaker 1: They seem like they want to make a couple of
Speaker 1: big moves.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 1: DeVante is great to get off the shelf. And if
Speaker 1: you're curious why this deal happened before free agency happened,
Speaker 1: we'll see it a little later with Harold Landry for
Speaker 1: a Since DeVante was cut so he was free to
Speaker 1: sign over the last handful of days whenever any team
Speaker 1: wanted to get it done, and so they get it
Speaker 1: done before the rest of the free agents can go
Speaker 1: out and start talking to teams. Like we know, Sam
Speaker 1: Darnold is already I mean, he's already a Seahawk. I
Speaker 1: don't think they have to worry about that one.
Speaker 2: Let's take a quick break.
Speaker 1: We haven't even mentioned Miles Garrett and Josh Allen got
Speaker 1: massive extensions left in the show. Then we'll run through
Speaker 1: all the rest of the news and get you set
Speaker 1: up for free agency starting this week.
Speaker 2: Back on NFL Daily.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I have a feeling, you know, Raiders GM
Speaker 1: John Spytek, he was invested in Steven the trainer. He
Speaker 1: wanted to know, does this trade pass the sniff test?
Speaker 1: And yes, Steven's thrilled.
Speaker 3: About Greg's that the Raiders of all teams. No ball,
Speaker 3: you know, football is back.
Speaker 2: Well, if nothing else I was, you know, thought the
Speaker 2: gear looked cool.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, I'm not really gonna wear Raiders gear,
Speaker 1: but I think Gino will look great in silver block.
Speaker 1: Let's talk to Let's talk about players that are even
Speaker 1: better ones that are going to Canton. Josh Allen out
Speaker 1: of nowhere, signed an extension on Sunday evening that paid
Speaker 1: him two hundred and fifty million dollars guaranteed. Congratulations to
Speaker 1: Brown's general manager Andrew Berry.
Speaker 2: You're off the hook.
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson three years later, no longer the most guaranteed
Speaker 1: money in the NFL history. It goes to a guy
Speaker 1: who could actually play football. Alan also getting the most
Speaker 1: cash flow over four years in the history of the NFL.
Speaker 1: That's according to Pro Football Talk. He'll make fifty five
Speaker 1: per year average value. That's second only to Dak contract.
Speaker 2: That might not be aging that well. This kind of
Speaker 2: came out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: I don't really know what to say about it other
Speaker 1: than well, that's good for Josh Allen.
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess it probably buys them more cap
Speaker 3: space in the short term to get some things done
Speaker 3: because they are very much in that title window still,
Speaker 3: which it feels like they've been there for five years now.
Speaker 3: But when you have an MVP at quarterback, first off,
Speaker 3: you pay him, and you pay him strategically so that
Speaker 3: you can continue to improve the roster, much like the
Speaker 3: Chiefs did with Patrick Mahomes. I think it's a smart move.
Speaker 3: It's a good team building move, and it's a no
Speaker 3: brainer when it comes to the caliber of player.
Speaker 1: He is right, and he had signed us in excession
Speaker 1: a few years ago, so he was like basically towards
Speaker 1: the top. But you absolutely said it right. What it
Speaker 1: is is part of a big strategy, and let's go
Speaker 1: through it. A couple of these teams had a lot
Speaker 1: going on this weekend. We'll call this Bill's Corner. They
Speaker 1: released von Miller. That was part of the move. A
Speaker 1: disasters signing for them, one that we were all, at
Speaker 1: least I was excited about at the time, and yet
Speaker 1: the warning signs were there considering his injury history.
Speaker 2: It really hamstrung them.
Speaker 1: I hate to say it, but it might have cost
Speaker 1: them some major playoff wins just because that resource could
Speaker 1: have been used somewhere else and he wasn't there helping
Speaker 1: on the field in the way that you expected.
Speaker 2: So he's gone. You saved some cap space.
Speaker 1: They send some of that and some of the savings
Speaker 1: from Allen's extension, which will be saving cap space ultimately
Speaker 1: because it's spread out to twenty thirty on. Greg Russeau
Speaker 1: gets four years, eighty million dollars fifty six million dollars guaranteed.
Speaker 1: Tourelle Bernard a linebacker they've developed and plays quite well
Speaker 1: for them. All three downs gets fifty over four. We'll
Speaker 1: see how they Wow, that's pretty nice.
Speaker 2: I guess so.
Speaker 1: But it's one of those linebacker ones that I think
Speaker 1: set the market for the rest of them, because this
Speaker 1: was that one was a little early off. And yeah,
Speaker 1: they're they're keeping. We did the AFC East preview last week.
Speaker 1: We said, Wow, all their best young players are up
Speaker 1: for extension, and so kudos to them. We'll see if
Speaker 1: Russeau and bernarder are worth it, but I tend to
Speaker 1: trust teams that are paying their own guys. Russeau more
Speaker 1: of a and then like a great sack guy you know,
Speaker 1: who reminds me of a little bit, is like a.
Speaker 2: Younger brand than Graham or.
Speaker 1: Not in terms of his play style, but in terms
Speaker 1: of like, man, he's always up there on the hurries
Speaker 1: and hits list, but not on the sack list, and
Speaker 1: like those guys have value and Graham ultimately kind of
Speaker 1: got there with his sacks and in game changing moments
Speaker 1: and Russo's a little.
Speaker 2: Bit like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I totally respect and appreciate them paying him
Speaker 3: because he's a guy that on tape you see the
Speaker 3: difference that he makes and it doesn't show up in
Speaker 3: the numbers, but he's their most disruptive, Like you said,
Speaker 3: edge Rusher on that front, And now that you've freed
Speaker 3: yourself of the ghost that was von Miller, you can
Speaker 3: redirect that money to him and reward the guy who
Speaker 3: was on you know, an ascending path, and then dedicate
Speaker 3: some of those other resources to guys like Bernard and
Speaker 3: and when you look at this front, like you know,
Speaker 3: you talk about needs and everything, I think about edge
Speaker 3: guys and I'm like, I like Russo that's a good number.
Speaker 3: Like I'm fine with that. That's decent.
Speaker 1: At worst, he's like a good number two or one.
Speaker 1: Be they still have needs there, but they weren't. We're
Speaker 1: seeing these trends are continuing all over the league. The
Speaker 1: smart teams are paying the guys a year early. I
Speaker 1: keep saying, there's too much cap space. So now even
Speaker 1: more of my top one, O one, the middle and
Speaker 1: lower tier guys, they're getting resignings in the negotiating period.
Speaker 1: They're not even making it to the market because teams
Speaker 1: are realizing, like we shouldn't let anyone we even moderately
Speaker 1: like get out there. Who cares if we have to pay,
Speaker 1: We're not going to be able to spend all this
Speaker 1: cap space. You know one team that did spend, that
Speaker 1: consistently spends more cash than just about any team, It
Speaker 1: is your Cleveland Browns. Miles Garrett is staying with the
Speaker 1: Browns one hundred and twenty two million dollars over three years,
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty three point five million guaranteed. He
Speaker 1: goes over the top of Max Crosby in terms of
Speaker 1: guaranteed money, most for a defensive player.
Speaker 2: Ever.
Speaker 1: I I fell for the okie dook I was. I'm
Speaker 1: not as concerned of whether you were surprised or not shook.
Speaker 1: But what do you think? Do you do you think
Speaker 1: this is the right move?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you don't let Hall of fame generational talents
Speaker 3: at edge Rusher demand their way out because you're the
Speaker 3: compensation you get in that. It's like trading a great
Speaker 3: baseball player in his prime. It's never gonna match. Like
Speaker 3: if you hit on every guy, it's still not gonna
Speaker 3: match what you're giving up. And I thought when Andrew
Speaker 3: Berry spoke with the Combine about this, he was steadfast,
Speaker 3: and in the fact that they were not interested in
Speaker 3: trading him. He's a big part of their plans and
Speaker 3: everything else. So it seemed like it just came down
Speaker 3: to convincing him to stay. And you know what convinces people,
Speaker 3: greg forty million dollars a year will convince you to stay.
Speaker 3: I don't know what else they told him. Maybe they
Speaker 3: told him their plan and he liked it. But I
Speaker 3: think that the power of the dollar was definitely significant
Speaker 3: in this one, and it essentially all but insures that
Speaker 3: he'll probably finishes his career there. And I mean, crazier
Speaker 3: things have happened, and from a football perspective, it makes
Speaker 3: all the sense in the world.
Speaker 1: I think that the deal might not look great in
Speaker 1: the long run. We'll see, yeah he's at the back end.
Speaker 1: If he's thirty six and you know, struggling. Yeah, we'll
Speaker 1: see he's forty years old. I mean, he's thirty years old.
Speaker 1: Forty would be wild. He's making forty million a year.
Speaker 1: I just thought, if what you're saying is true, that
Speaker 1: you couldn't make up for what he was in a
Speaker 1: trade package, You're right, I guess I will never know that.
Speaker 1: I would think that Garrett could have gotten a good
Speaker 1: trade package. But you're right, there's a huge difference between
Speaker 1: getting two two's and a five and getting two ones
Speaker 1: and a three. Like I don't know where that offer
Speaker 1: what like where it's from.
Speaker 3: If it's from where the one in the back half
Speaker 3: of the first round, it's not worth it.
Speaker 2: I I don't know.
Speaker 1: But they're in a unique spot where because of the
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson contract, if they got a big return, I
Speaker 1: thought it did make football sense to not pay Miles
Speaker 1: Garrett forty million dollars a year and give him what
Speaker 1: he wants. I do wonder if the fact that you
Speaker 1: know Andrew Berry and Stefanski they got to win now,
Speaker 1: but especially the front office, you know that plays a
Speaker 1: role in it. You know they're not they're not looking
Speaker 1: to rebuild. They just came off a disastrous season. They
Speaker 1: have to win, and clearly they're going to be better
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five with Miles Garrett. And I give
Speaker 1: Jimmy has some credit for being the type of owner
Speaker 1: that will just spend He really does spend a ton
Speaker 1: of cash.
Speaker 2: It just hasn't been spent well.
Speaker 1: And so you hope, hope for the Rams I mean
Speaker 1: the Browns rather that they can figure out quarterback and
Speaker 1: that Miles Garrett isn't wasting these years because you're right,
Speaker 1: you're probably going to get two more great years out
Speaker 1: of him at the least, yeah, before he starts to decline. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, But like it just makes you can't weather
Speaker 1: that storm, that fire story, like no matter how because
Speaker 1: Miles was painted like the bad guy in Cleveland over
Speaker 1: the last month, and understandably so you have the media
Speaker 1: tour he on. But yeah, and well, yeah, he was
Speaker 1: pretty agro about it, and there was a report that
Speaker 1: Jimmy has them wouldn't even meet with him, and then
Speaker 1: suddenly this contract happens.
Speaker 2: It's interesting, I don't.
Speaker 3: Know, it's an interesting example of ownership hardball, where he's like,
Speaker 3: I hired a GM to do the job, and I'm
Speaker 3: gonna let him do the job and not you know,
Speaker 3: undermine him by talking to the player directly. I think
Speaker 3: if there's players you talk to you directly, it's guys
Speaker 3: like Miles Garrett. But at the same time, like when
Speaker 3: you look at it from the full picture, they can't
Speaker 3: afford to have a losing season. Well, guess what they
Speaker 3: can't afford to whether the storm of treading away Miles
Speaker 3: Garrett for two ones in the back end of the
Speaker 3: first round that are consecutive years and lose, you know what,
Speaker 3: thirteen games again, then they're all fired.
Speaker 1: Right, I'm I'm kind of amazing. Andrew Berry's still there,
Speaker 1: but for.
Speaker 2: The million time. Who knows if he's the one that
Speaker 2: actually wanted Watson. Maybe it was ownership. Who cares, let's go.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, man, if you're all part of that,
Speaker 1: you just have to wear it.
Speaker 2: And that's just the reality of it. You just have
Speaker 2: to wear it.
Speaker 1: It's what they're all going to be remembered for unless
Speaker 1: they do something great moving forward. So Fanski will always
Speaker 1: have those of the coach of the year. He'll probably
Speaker 1: get another job too after Cleveland if he wants it.
Speaker 1: I'm going with Derek Carr is my next most important
Speaker 1: story of the weekend. Very interesting. He stayed with the Saints.
Speaker 1: He didn't change his contract. They had an automatic restructure
Speaker 1: that they could put that they could use, which just
Speaker 1: means he does a sign, he gets all the money
Speaker 1: up front, and they push it out into the future.
Speaker 1: He reportedly refused to take a pay cut. They were
Speaker 1: trying to extend him another year, but while doing that,
Speaker 1: make him take a pay cut but give him some
Speaker 1: guaranteed money for next year. He reportedly refused to, and
Speaker 1: it's being put out there that he was quite open
Speaker 1: to leaving and like calling their bluffy saying like you
Speaker 1: want to cut me? Like cut me. I'm kind of
Speaker 1: cool with that. Weird that that gets out there, Just
Speaker 1: what what are the Saints like now you have a
Speaker 1: quarterback like you? I don't, I don't. I just don't
Speaker 1: get any of it like that. It almost is certain
Speaker 1: that now it's his last year with the Saints. But
Speaker 1: that's a weird way to go into the year because
Speaker 1: his cap number next year, shook is almost seventy million dollars,
Speaker 1: Like they're not going to be able to renegotiate it
Speaker 1: next like because they didn't do it this year. It
Speaker 1: almost sets up a situation where he has to be
Speaker 1: cut next year and have that money spread out. Just
Speaker 1: just weird. I want I want better for the Saints
Speaker 1: fans out there. The argument for it that they also
Speaker 1: put out there kind of through the media is that
Speaker 1: it's going to open up space for them to spend
Speaker 1: more on free agency this year than you would expect.
Speaker 3: So yeah, because this cap numbers only in the twenty
Speaker 3: million dollar range, and so you can redirect some of
Speaker 3: that cap space to try to get better. Mealy, it's
Speaker 3: also essentially a stare down that turned into well, you're
Speaker 3: abridge quarterback now, so enjoy your last year here and
Speaker 3: hopefully you play well enough to earn a deal elsewhere
Speaker 3: after we get rid of you next year. Because you
Speaker 3: don't want to put a new head coach in a
Speaker 3: terrible position where you don't have a quarterback or you
Speaker 3: have a rookie. So it makes sense from that perspective,
Speaker 3: but it is still kind of strange.
Speaker 2: But that's where the Saints are.
Speaker 3: But is just in a.
Speaker 1: Position where he has a quarterback that he maybe didn't want.
Speaker 1: Our guys at the Saints Block Party podcast reported that
Speaker 1: Moore didn't really want it. Mickey Loomis is calling the
Speaker 1: shots here and more importantly, like, now you're giving him
Speaker 1: a quarterback that you only have for one year. That's
Speaker 1: probably not your future. And frankly, I'd be shocked if
Speaker 1: they don't draft a quarterback. I to me, they're the
Speaker 1: odds on favorite for Shador Sanders.
Speaker 2: That's my hot.
Speaker 3: Yes, but what is the alternative. The alternative is Spencer
Speaker 3: Rather cut.
Speaker 1: Cut Derek Carr, take your pain and sign someone that's
Speaker 1: basically as good as Derek Carr, Jacobe Brissett or whoever.
Speaker 2: Like what's the differences him?
Speaker 3: But at twenty million, how much are you really saving
Speaker 3: by cutting him?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: Like it's it's that the cap number this year is
Speaker 3: what makes it possible, which is why.
Speaker 1: So they are going to try to win this year
Speaker 1: and they'll do it by using some of this cap
Speaker 1: space with one more year of Derek Carr.
Speaker 2: Just like it.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just one of from the outside, the
Speaker 1: most confounding organizations in the league.
Speaker 2: And it's not like it's going well. Push Sehn.
Speaker 3: They sold their soul to the Football Devil when they
Speaker 3: extended Breeze and pushed all that money down the road.
Speaker 2: They're still paying.
Speaker 1: For sure, sure, but Car is different. Carr is is
Speaker 1: Derek Carr. Ronnie, I think he was interested in what
Speaker 1: was behind door number two, which makes you wonder, like,
Speaker 1: what was that? Was it Tennessee? Was it New York?
Speaker 1: I think he did have a market, and I think
Speaker 1: he knew it. Ronnie Stanley is staying with the Ravens.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Jordan Rodrieg, who pointed to the signs
Speaker 1: that he maybe didn't want to test what was out there.
Speaker 1: Forty four million dollars guaranteed three for sixty great money
Speaker 1: for a guy whose career was in trouble because of
Speaker 1: health concerns, but not a crazy He's a huge deal,
Speaker 1: kind of like the Steelers. And we'll see what the
Speaker 1: dk once we peek under the hood. The Wevens always
Speaker 1: get like better deals than you expect. This is like
Speaker 1: a little better deals. It's almost like they get a
Speaker 1: discount for being so smart. I'm sure he could have
Speaker 1: gotten more than from the Patriots.
Speaker 2: How dare you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I want to say I had him expected
Speaker 3: in like the twenty five to twenty seven million dollars reeks.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The year he had and this is an example of
Speaker 3: betting on yourself paying off because he took a pay
Speaker 3: cut to stay because he knew he wasn't worth the
Speaker 3: money they were spending him, because he just couldn't be
Speaker 3: available enough. And then he went and had a great year,
Speaker 3: a fantastic year, and he instead of going for the
Speaker 3: biggest dollar value, he instead stays with the team that
Speaker 3: he knows well that has trusted him and given him
Speaker 3: the time, just as he's given them the concession of financially,
Speaker 3: and now he gets rewarded at a number that's not
Speaker 3: extreme and it's feasible, and it fits into what the
Speaker 3: organization wants to do.
Speaker 1: Yep, good organizations stay good by making moves like this.
Speaker 2: One last thing to worry about.
Speaker 1: They have plenty more to work on for the offensive
Speaker 1: line and the Edge group will see what they do
Speaker 1: this week. All Right, The rest of the stories that
Speaker 1: we talk about today, and there's a lot of deals,
Speaker 1: would probably lead the show or be second on the
Speaker 1: show for most of the next three months. The funny
Speaker 1: thing is like the entire offseason is going to happen
Speaker 1: over the next three or four days, and a lot
Speaker 1: of it's already happened, and then we'll spend like five
Speaker 1: months talking about it. But the Chiefs were very active.
Speaker 1: Nick Bolton back for three years, forty five million. See
Speaker 1: it's all very similar. Ernest Jones. We'll have Jamie Sherwood
Speaker 1: coming up for the Jets three years forty five million.
Speaker 1: Glad they kept him. Really a lynch pint to their defense,
Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown is back for the same contract he signed
Speaker 1: for a year ago, basically one year for eleven million dollars.
Speaker 1: And let's I'll stop there before getting into Xavier Worthies arrest.
Speaker 1: I think they really wanted Ronnie Stanley. That's what Daniel
Speaker 1: Jeremiah was hinting around at. And look, he hinted around
Speaker 1: at multiple things to be on and off air. Every
Speaker 1: single one of them has happened except for Ronnie Stanley.
Speaker 1: And that makes me think that they saw or knew
Speaker 1: that the price was being driven up by their rivals,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and the Ravens, you know, stepped up to
Speaker 1: the plate. That is what I expect happen. But they
Speaker 1: use some of that money on Nick Bolton, Hollywood Brown,
Speaker 1: smart moves.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Hollywood Brown didn't get to come back to
Speaker 3: the team until the second half of the season, so
Speaker 3: he did never really got his feet underneath him, and
Speaker 3: then they were in the super Bowl and had a
Speaker 3: dreadful performance. But it does hurt me that they don't
Speaker 3: address tackle and they don't get the opportunity to swing
Speaker 3: at a guy like they got more time. They got
Speaker 3: more time, right time, they have time and Nick Bolton.
Speaker 3: I think the Nick Bolton thing's weird because we've talked
Speaker 3: about this. I think we talked about this in the
Speaker 3: Tag primer where he makes big time plays in key spots,
Speaker 3: but play by play basis, he's not like the most consistent.
Speaker 3: He's actually like kind of declined in that regard. But
Speaker 3: he's one of theirs. He's one of their homegrown and
Speaker 3: you get him at fifteen a year, which is like
Speaker 3: Terrell Bernard's twelve and I have and it's still pretty
Speaker 3: good for a guy who's still very young, who you
Speaker 3: expect to develop more. So both makes sense, totally different moves.
Speaker 3: Both fit into the grand scheme of this franchise, but
Speaker 3: they still have a lot of work to do.
Speaker 1: And to hear Claybhn's voice in my head laughing that,
Speaker 1: I think Hollywood Brown coming back is a good move.
Speaker 1: They his speed changed their offense. He's a good secondary receiver.
Speaker 1: He has already learned the scheme. Worthy, who was arrested
Speaker 1: over the weekend for a domestic violence incident that involved
Speaker 1: strangulation at his house, including a family member. Those were
Speaker 1: the details from the Williamson County Sheriff's Office. Has Ultimately,
Speaker 1: they decided to release a statement that says the following
Speaker 1: after further investigation and further discussion with a third party witness,
Speaker 1: mister Worthy in his attorneys, this case is being declined
Speaker 1: at this time Penny and completion of the investigation by
Speaker 1: the Williamson County Sheriff's office. So right now he was arrested,
Speaker 1: but the case is now being declined, but they are investigating.
Speaker 1: Those are very serious allegations. We'll see what happens if
Speaker 1: he's on the field him Rashi Rice in Hollywood Brown
Speaker 1: with Travis Kelce in Noah Gray, maybe they'll add to that.
Speaker 2: But that's a.
Speaker 1: Receiver group, that's a that's a rock solid receiver group,
Speaker 1: and it's have to dismiss the seriousness of these allegations,
Speaker 1: but at this point they were declined, so it's hard
Speaker 1: to really.
Speaker 2: Speak on that.
Speaker 1: But man, the Chiefs, they have a lot of guys
Speaker 1: that have a lot of issues off the field.
Speaker 2: It's a little bit by design. Yeah, it really agreed.
Speaker 3: They take risks and sometimes it pays off in the
Speaker 3: football field and sometimes it doesn't, and that is part
Speaker 3: of the risk.
Speaker 1: YEP Commander's Corner Jonathan Allen. We haven't even done a
Speaker 1: show since he got released. Unless I snuck that into
Speaker 1: the DJ show. I'm losing track of days. So he
Speaker 1: is out there on the free agent wire and he's in.
Speaker 2: My top forty five now.
Speaker 1: I think he can help a team out as a
Speaker 1: as a helpful rotational end.
Speaker 2: They brought back zach.
Speaker 1: Ertz for one year, six point two five million dollar
Speaker 1: and they brought back Bobby Wagner for eight million dollars.
Speaker 3: Guaranteed, they've already made the trade for Debo. They bring
Speaker 3: back a veteran leader on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 3: I mean that defense overachieved last year and a lot
Speaker 3: of it was because of Bobby Wagner, and the offense
Speaker 3: kept moving because Jade Daniels could rely on zach Ertz
Speaker 3: and key moments. So both of them earned these contracts.
Speaker 3: They're both short term. They make a lot of sense,
Speaker 3: and they're obviously attacking this with the Debo trade, and
Speaker 3: I don't think they're They're not very even close to
Speaker 3: finish yet.
Speaker 1: They were rumored to be in the mix for DK.
Speaker 1: That's what I heard, and I still think that they
Speaker 1: can consider something like that. Who knows how much DK
Speaker 1: had a role to play in this. I mean he
Speaker 1: wanted to play somewhere warm, and he ended up in Pittsburgh. Look,
Speaker 1: if if you want to play some more warm, you
Speaker 1: want to live somewhere warm, you just got to make
Speaker 1: a priority. That was my number one priority for college.
Speaker 1: I wanted to, you know, and I made it happen.
Speaker 2: I went to a state school in Ohio.
Speaker 1: I wanted to go to a warm cet. I was like,
Speaker 1: I want to go live in the city and I
Speaker 1: want to go so warm. Kids out there that are listening,
Speaker 1: I actually think that was pretty solid thinking, yeah, good
Speaker 1: categories on the east coast of the Midwest.
Speaker 3: Leave your state for school. I just promise you it'll
Speaker 3: work out.
Speaker 1: And like, look, Ertz and Wagner could fall off a
Speaker 1: cliff this year. But that's why I keep saying for
Speaker 1: this is the benefit of having the commander, specifically having
Speaker 1: so much gas.
Speaker 2: Sweet.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if they're a little a lot of money.
Speaker 1: They're they're off off a cliff there. They wanted them back,
Speaker 1: and they've got more than enough to spend. Lions Corner.
Speaker 1: They cut Sadarius Smith very surprised about that. Derek Brarnes,
Speaker 1: who I didn't put in the top one one because
Speaker 1: he's coming off a serious injury gets three for twenty
Speaker 1: five million dollars. He's kind of a hybrid linebacker edge rusher,
Speaker 1: but more of a linebacker. And then they brought back
Speaker 1: Marcus Davenport, who didn't end up playing for them really
Speaker 1: last year one for four, who did sneak into the
Speaker 1: end of my one on one an interesting set of moves,
Speaker 1: none of which I particularly expect.
Speaker 2: Did.
Speaker 1: Zadarius Smith I thought played pretty well for them, but
Speaker 1: maybe they just didn't see him as a scheme fit
Speaker 1: or something, or just wanted to prioritize some younger guys
Speaker 1: like Barnes and Davenport, even that they know better.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's prioritizing younger guys, and I think that they're
Speaker 3: still looking to make some sort of splash. Might be
Speaker 3: more in name value than actual player quality, but there
Speaker 3: is some talent out there, and they know that they
Speaker 3: need to upgrade that position opposite Aiden Hudchson when he
Speaker 3: returns from that broken leg. I mean, yeah, Zadarius played
Speaker 3: pretty well, like he played like the guy you traded
Speaker 3: for in the middle of the season, But I don't
Speaker 3: think that's good enough for them, and they understand that.
Speaker 1: So Mike Asiki top tight end to me in free
Speaker 1: agency is back with the Bengals. So the Bengals spending
Speaker 1: some money. Three for twenty five million dollars. Nice career
Speaker 1: comeback for Gasiki, who was starting to bounce around. And
Speaker 1: I thought before that Bengals contact was borderline not staying
Speaker 1: in the league and had a great year. And Trey
Speaker 1: Hendrickson has said there's nowhere he'd rather be than Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: but he's on the trade block. The reports are that
Speaker 1: the Commanders are in the mix. The Falcons and the
Speaker 1: Cardinals depending on which local reporter, which national reporter you believe,
Speaker 1: have also been mentioned, so that that's an interesting one.
Speaker 1: Vikings corner here Aaron Jones gets thirteen million dollars for
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Shout out to Aaron Jones. I like them,
Speaker 1: but that shows how much they really valued him. Two
Speaker 1: for twenty overall pretty pretty top running back money. Like
Speaker 1: a little surprise there, but I ranked him high, so
Speaker 1: I like the deal. And then since we've last talked,
Speaker 1: Nick Donald, not expected back that that was thrown out there.
Speaker 2: Even before the Geno trade.
Speaker 1: It really makes me think, like all these teams kind
Speaker 1: of know they were all there's the whisper markets out there.
Speaker 1: Suddenly Donald was not expected back. That was before the
Speaker 1: Geno trade even happened. He must have had that contract
Speaker 1: offer in place. Supposedly they're into Danny Dimes.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 1: Remember they did have him back as they're back. I
Speaker 1: mean he would be a backup in that scenario.
Speaker 3: Two items before. Hendrickson want to pair him with the
Speaker 3: team we just talked about the Lions. I don't think
Speaker 3: that that market is only those three teams. They all
Speaker 3: make sense, but I do want to pay him there.
Speaker 3: And then the Aaron Jones thing. Thirty year old, right,
Speaker 3: so like the thirty year wall. But he had like
Speaker 3: fifteen hundred scrimmer yards last year and he fit in
Speaker 3: really well and he loves it there. So I see
Speaker 3: why they frontload that and say all right, well we'll
Speaker 3: give you this year and then if you still play well,
Speaker 3: then we have even cheaper next year. That makes a
Speaker 3: lot of sense as well. Now, on the other hand,
Speaker 3: the idea of being in on Danny Dimes, he could
Speaker 3: be reclaimed somewhere maybe who knows.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's save that toll he actually does sign. I
Speaker 1: do have a lot of taught I agree with you
Speaker 1: he's not the same Dimes that he was four years ago.
Speaker 1: He's had massive injuries. But they had him in the
Speaker 1: building and they got to evaluate him. We'll see what
Speaker 1: the money is there. I really think JJ McCarthy is
Speaker 1: the Week one starter if Danny Dimes is the other
Speaker 1: guy there. All Right, I'm gonna fly through the rest
Speaker 1: of these because I do want to wrap up here today.
Speaker 1: If you really want to jump in, do it. But
Speaker 1: Harold Landry got a minor, like a major deal from
Speaker 1: the Patriots. So he was released by the Titans on Thursday,
Speaker 1: and he got twenty six million dollars guaranteed three for
Speaker 1: forty three million. Patriots fans are like, hey, we need
Speaker 1: Mike Rabel in charge. Can't have Elliott Wolf fronting things.
Speaker 1: We need Rabel to go get a Titan to get
Speaker 1: like Harold Landry, a declining player that no one wanted
Speaker 1: to trade for, that is in PFF's bottom ten percent
Speaker 1: dial in terms of pass rush rate over the last
Speaker 1: couple of years. But he does get a lot of sacks.
Speaker 1: He is a good run defender. I don't know it
Speaker 1: was the type of signing that Belichick would have made
Speaker 1: when it wasn't going well late, we'll see. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of money. I know they have a lot of
Speaker 1: money to spend.
Speaker 2: But he's a rabl guy though, so he's a real history.
Speaker 1: The Bucks resigned Levonte David for nine million dollars guaranteed
Speaker 1: love Lemonte David did show decline last year, but he's
Speaker 1: earned that money. Baron Browning is back with the Cardinals
Speaker 1: two for fifteen, so they trade for him at midseason,
Speaker 1: saw enough of him to get him back at a
Speaker 1: pretty low cost deal. Didn't want on a bet on himself,
Speaker 1: probably had an idea wasn't going to do better. I
Speaker 1: keep mentioning these lower tier guys are getting signed now
Speaker 1: in the negotiating period when they normally went. The Falcon
Speaker 1: signed Jake Matthews to an extension two for forty five,
Speaker 1: thirty eight million dollars guaranteed. I present to you my
Speaker 1: theory shook that he is the offensive lineman version of
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. What slightly better than average player has made
Speaker 1: more money than Jake Matthews.
Speaker 3: I mean, hey, just got more money per year than
Speaker 3: Ronnie Stanley.
Speaker 1: Right, and it was tacked on to a deal that
Speaker 1: his contract is almost like the Derek Carr contract where
Speaker 1: it's like they keep having to extend it out to
Speaker 1: make up for what was before and help their cap space.
Speaker 1: And then just some one liners here. Since we last talked,
Speaker 1: the Chargers got rid of Gus Edwards. The gust Buss
Speaker 1: is loose. The Raiders got rid of their starting center,
Speaker 1: Andre James. The Panther has resigned a handful of players,
Speaker 1: including Austin Corbett and Tommy Tremble. They're tight end Chris
Speaker 1: Manhertz and then the Jamie Gillen. The Scott Hammer is
Speaker 1: back with the Giants.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 1: The Trey Smith signed his franchise tag. Which does that
Speaker 1: make him easier to trade? Just just something I think
Speaker 1: about it, do it? Don't do anything?
Speaker 2: But maybe not?
Speaker 1: Maybe just want to lock in that money before something
Speaker 1: we were having. Jarrett Stidham is staying with the Broncos
Speaker 1: two for twelve. He's been getting those backup quarterback He's
Speaker 1: kind of the sneaky Chase Daniel of his era, making
Speaker 1: a lot of money as a backup. Austin Hooper returns
Speaker 1: to the Pats for five million dollars. We're gonna have
Speaker 1: so much on Monday. The schedule this week Shook, You're
Speaker 1: going to be back on Wednesday, that's officially the first
Speaker 1: day of the league year. Could have some more trades
Speaker 1: by then. Monday figures to be really busy. Obviously, we
Speaker 1: got you covered on NFL Network. I'm going to be
Speaker 1: on the Insiders if you guys happen to watch that
Speaker 1: on the network, And then we wanted to tape towards
Speaker 1: the end of the day. That's going to be the
Speaker 1: schedule so that we get everything that we can into
Speaker 1: that show at least on Monday, So Patrick, Claybahn and
Speaker 1: I will be taping, you know, late in the evening
Speaker 1: West Coast time, So these shows will be coming out
Speaker 1: a little later the first couple of days of the week.
Speaker 1: But we will be doing a show it's in the
Speaker 1: title every day this week. Great great cast of characters.
Speaker 1: Colleen and Jordan will be in for Tuesday's show and football.
Speaker 1: It was it was making me think, Shook. It's a
Speaker 1: little like the difference between football and baseball in general.
Speaker 1: It's like the seasons, like the baseball is like game
Speaker 1: after game, day after day after day.
Speaker 2: Whereas football is just like Sunday. It's just like an
Speaker 2: orgasm of sport.
Speaker 1: And that's that's what that's what free agency is too,
Speaker 1: compared to baseball, which just drags on. There's summer early,
Speaker 1: there's some late, there's some whatever. It's like football, it's
Speaker 1: all done and then you can get to bed.
Speaker 3: You know. Look, I'm gonna tread carefully here, but I
Speaker 3: would think I would rather do it all in a
Speaker 3: few days and really just go for broke, then be like, oh,
Speaker 3: it's Saturday at four pm, and so and so just
Speaker 3: sign with the Yankees.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 1: It is one of my favorite weeks on the NFL calendar,
Speaker 1: looking forward to it, thanks again to Shuki.
Speaker 2: Let's play it out. What is it.
Speaker 1: It's noon on the East Coast, nine am Pacific. I mean,
Speaker 1: by the time you guys hear this, some more signings
Speaker 1: will be kind of I mean, yes, when when we're
Speaker 1: reshaping the entire freaking NFL, you know, football it's back