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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're gonna look great in

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Speaker 1: silver and black. I'm Greg Rosenthal and I'm talking to

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Speaker 1: my buddy Nick Shook, just hours before the negotiating period

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Speaker 1: between NFL teams and free agents officially begin. And yet Nick,

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Speaker 1: it's already started. We got trades, we got big free

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Speaker 1: agent signings. We've got an arrest and we'll throw that

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Speaker 2: Cap space is being spent like absolute crazy.

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Speaker 1: And yes, I'm referring to what my new favorite team,

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Speaker 1: the Raiders did acquiring Geno Smith. No one I'd rather

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Speaker 1: talk about this, all this stuff too than you. Nick.

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Speaker 3: I'm happy to be here at the last six hours

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Speaker 3: here on Sunday. It's just been absolute chaos and it's

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Speaker 3: only gonna get more chaotic as the week begins. But

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Speaker 3: we have so much to talk about, so let's not

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Speaker 3: even waste any time. Get ready, Yes, Yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna try to speed through this because look, this

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Speaker 1: week is going to move fast. We have shows every day, obviously,

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Speaker 1: keep it tuned to NFL Network for free agency friends.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be doing insiders all week and we'll

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Speaker 1: have daily shows, and look, these are the moves that

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Speaker 1: we're going to be talking about for the next four

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Speaker 1: or five months. More news happened on Sunday, then will

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Speaker 1: happen from May through July, so we'll give you the

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Speaker 1: top line stuff. And yes, it was a week and

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Speaker 1: long battle between what would lead the show. I figured

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Speaker 1: it's just going to be Gino That's what I'm referring

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Speaker 1: to for new listeners. I love me some Gino Smith.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if the Raiders are going to be

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Speaker 1: my favorite team, but I'm definitely pulling for them. But

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Speaker 1: then it was Devonte Adams who took away the beginning

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Speaker 1: of the show going to the Rams. Thought that's fresher.

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Speaker 1: We got to lead with that. I mean, Miles Garrett

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Speaker 1: staying that was a good candidate. But ultimately we're actually

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Speaker 1: going back to the Pacific Northwest because it's not just

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Speaker 1: Gino Smith that's no longer in Seattle. DK metcalf is

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Speaker 1: a member of the Pittsburgh Steelers. All they had to

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Speaker 1: give up was a second round draft pick in terms

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Speaker 1: of trade compensation, but they did have to give up

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Speaker 1: a one hundred and fifty million dollar contract total. It

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Speaker 1: was an extension four for one thirty two. And it's

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Speaker 1: the type of move the Steelers just haven't made that

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Speaker 1: often in the Mike Tomlin era. So I know Steelers

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Speaker 1: fans are gonna be pumped, but they have made it before.

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Speaker 1: Remember they sent a first for Minka Fitzpatrick that worked

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Speaker 1: out well. Do you think this one will work out.

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Speaker 2: Just as well?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know DK was underused in Seattle last year.

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Speaker 3: The question for me is fit because of receiver type.

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Speaker 3: But this is also a Steelers offense that was going

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Speaker 3: to benefit from any acquisition of any receiver. They heavily

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Speaker 3: leaned on George Pickens, Russell Wilson, especially last year. Calvin

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Speaker 3: of fell off a cliff from there. You add DK

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Speaker 3: attention on We got to stop Pickens. We got to

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Speaker 3: got to deal with both of these guys, big targets,

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Speaker 3: slightly more in Pickens, and I think it just helps

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Speaker 3: them overall. But the other question is is Who's throwing

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Speaker 3: them the ball. Now, it's fantastic, but who's gonna throw

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Speaker 1: Yeah, someone will, And that's what i'd caution with all

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Speaker 1: these moves. Although I understand why Seattle fans are so

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Speaker 1: frustrated right now. They were not happy with the Gino

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Speaker 1: Smith trade. It's not fun to see DK Metcalf go

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Speaker 1: to be. Ultimately, DK Metcalf should be a Steeler for

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Speaker 1: longer than George Pickens in a world where George Pickens

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Speaker 1: that would work pretty well with Russell Wilson, not justin fields,

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Speaker 1: What I found fascinating about this is that the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: I want to stop making this point over and over,

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Speaker 1: him and his boy AJ Brown were for some reason

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Speaker 3: But it also indicates where the Steelers are as a franchise,

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Speaker 3: We know he's an incredibly talented player, so why now

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Speaker 3: you can handle that. Now, that's not to say the

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Speaker 3: DK hasn't caused his own drama, because he has in Seattle.

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Speaker 2: Maybe with that money and a change.

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Speaker 1: You know what's interesting, I've noticed there's been no reporting

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Speaker 1: That's probably backloaded. Maybe the guaranteed money isn't actually up

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Speaker 1: We'll see DK didn't get everything he wanted. He wanted

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: DK also wanted to go somewhere with a more stable

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Speaker 2: He did not land somewhere.

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Speaker 1: The Seahawks getting off Geno and DK is so risky

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Speaker 1: I think you got to view these in tandem forties

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Speaker 1: I'm doing a new podcast with Daniel Jeremiah should be

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Speaker 1: in the NFL Daily Feed. And he really thought during

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Speaker 1: Raiders were just the logical pick. But you know, DJ

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Speaker 1: And suddenly this mini era in Seattle, which I think

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Speaker 1: Without knowing too much, I do wonder is the coach

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Speaker 2: Apparently a little surprising.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think with the DK, you know, requesting

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Speaker 2: But with Genne like a.

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Speaker 3: He's not going to make the money that some of

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Speaker 3: So I understand trying to rid yourself of that drama

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Speaker 3: me is that we realize we've maximized what we've gotten

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Speaker 3: We gave him the contract extension, but it wasn't super

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Speaker 3: good enough to keep us competitive. And we both love

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Speaker 3: Gino here, but we also can admit that Gino was

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Speaker 3: There were some games in which the Rams game, for example,

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Speaker 3: knowing that they don't have They don't like Aidan O'Connell.

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Speaker 1: Now we'll get to the Raiders side of it in

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Speaker 1: a second. And these were the biggest moves of the

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Speaker 1: how dare you talk about that Rams game? I challenge

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Speaker 1: Yeah he did, and Stafford flipped it. That game was typical.

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Speaker 1: And I know there's like a Gino fan in me

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Speaker 1: The Raiders I think made an absolutely awesome move here

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Speaker 1: So happy because Gino can ball. And what is this

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the connections were there too, obviously, Pete Carroll being

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Speaker 2: That's the first step, and you got the rest of

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: And I love this combination even if he's if he's

436
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Speaker 1: eighty percent of the old Davante, I'm in.

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Speaker 3: No, exactly like you said, Stafford, in a one year deal,

438
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Speaker 3: you are winning now. When your quarterback is on a

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Speaker 3: one year deal and he's near the tail end of

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Speaker 3: his career but he can still produce, you are winning now.

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Speaker 3: You make these moves now, it's a perfect fit. I'm

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Speaker 3: excited to see where it goes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think they're going to be done either.

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Speaker 1: They seem like they want to make a couple of

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Speaker 1: big moves.

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Speaker 2: We'll see.

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Speaker 1: DeVante is great to get off the shelf. And if

448
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Speaker 1: you're curious why this deal happened before free agency happened,

449
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Speaker 1: we'll see it a little later with Harold Landry for

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Speaker 1: a Since DeVante was cut so he was free to

451
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Speaker 1: sign over the last handful of days whenever any team

452
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Speaker 1: wanted to get it done, and so they get it

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Speaker 1: done before the rest of the free agents can go

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Speaker 1: out and start talking to teams. Like we know, Sam

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Speaker 1: Darnold is already I mean, he's already a Seahawk. I

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Speaker 1: don't think they have to worry about that one.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a quick break.

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Speaker 1: We haven't even mentioned Miles Garrett and Josh Allen got

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Speaker 1: massive extensions left in the show. Then we'll run through

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Speaker 1: all the rest of the news and get you set

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Speaker 1: up for free agency starting this week.

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Speaker 2: Back on NFL Daily.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I have a feeling, you know, Raiders GM

464
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Speaker 1: John Spytek, he was invested in Steven the trainer. He

465
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Speaker 1: wanted to know, does this trade pass the sniff test?

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Speaker 1: And yes, Steven's thrilled.

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Speaker 3: About Greg's that the Raiders of all teams. No ball,

468
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Speaker 3: you know, football is back.

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Speaker 2: Well, if nothing else I was, you know, thought the

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Speaker 2: gear looked cool.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, I'm not really gonna wear Raiders gear,

472
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Speaker 1: but I think Gino will look great in silver block.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk to Let's talk about players that are even

474
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Speaker 1: better ones that are going to Canton. Josh Allen out

475
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Speaker 1: of nowhere, signed an extension on Sunday evening that paid

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Speaker 1: him two hundred and fifty million dollars guaranteed. Congratulations to

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Speaker 1: Brown's general manager Andrew Berry.

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Speaker 2: You're off the hook.

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson three years later, no longer the most guaranteed

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Speaker 1: money in the NFL history. It goes to a guy

481
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Speaker 1: who could actually play football. Alan also getting the most

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Speaker 1: cash flow over four years in the history of the NFL.

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Speaker 1: That's according to Pro Football Talk. He'll make fifty five

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Speaker 1: per year average value. That's second only to Dak contract.

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Speaker 2: That might not be aging that well. This kind of

486
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Speaker 2: came out of nowhere.

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Speaker 1: I don't really know what to say about it other

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Speaker 1: than well, that's good for Josh Allen.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess it probably buys them more cap

490
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Speaker 3: space in the short term to get some things done

491
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Speaker 3: because they are very much in that title window still,

492
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Speaker 3: which it feels like they've been there for five years now.

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Speaker 3: But when you have an MVP at quarterback, first off,

494
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Speaker 3: you pay him, and you pay him strategically so that

495
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Speaker 3: you can continue to improve the roster, much like the

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Speaker 3: Chiefs did with Patrick Mahomes. I think it's a smart move.

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Speaker 3: It's a good team building move, and it's a no

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Speaker 3: brainer when it comes to the caliber of player.

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Speaker 1: He is right, and he had signed us in excession

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Speaker 1: a few years ago, so he was like basically towards

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Speaker 1: the top. But you absolutely said it right. What it

502
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Speaker 1: is is part of a big strategy, and let's go

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Speaker 1: through it. A couple of these teams had a lot

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Speaker 1: going on this weekend. We'll call this Bill's Corner. They

505
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Speaker 1: released von Miller. That was part of the move. A

506
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Speaker 1: disasters signing for them, one that we were all, at

507
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Speaker 1: least I was excited about at the time, and yet

508
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Speaker 1: the warning signs were there considering his injury history.

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Speaker 2: It really hamstrung them.

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Speaker 1: I hate to say it, but it might have cost

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Speaker 1: them some major playoff wins just because that resource could

512
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Speaker 1: have been used somewhere else and he wasn't there helping

513
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Speaker 1: on the field in the way that you expected.

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Speaker 2: So he's gone. You saved some cap space.

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Speaker 1: They send some of that and some of the savings

516
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Speaker 1: from Allen's extension, which will be saving cap space ultimately

517
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Speaker 1: because it's spread out to twenty thirty on. Greg Russeau

518
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Speaker 1: gets four years, eighty million dollars fifty six million dollars guaranteed.

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Speaker 1: Tourelle Bernard a linebacker they've developed and plays quite well

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Speaker 1: for them. All three downs gets fifty over four. We'll

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Speaker 1: see how they Wow, that's pretty nice.

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Speaker 2: I guess so.

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Speaker 1: But it's one of those linebacker ones that I think

524
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Speaker 1: set the market for the rest of them, because this

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Speaker 1: was that one was a little early off. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're they're keeping. We did the AFC East preview last week.

527
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Speaker 1: We said, Wow, all their best young players are up

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Speaker 1: for extension, and so kudos to them. We'll see if

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Speaker 1: Russeau and bernarder are worth it, but I tend to

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Speaker 1: trust teams that are paying their own guys. Russeau more

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Speaker 1: of a and then like a great sack guy you know,

532
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Speaker 1: who reminds me of a little bit, is like a.

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Speaker 2: Younger brand than Graham or.

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Speaker 1: Not in terms of his play style, but in terms

535
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Speaker 1: of like, man, he's always up there on the hurries

536
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Speaker 1: and hits list, but not on the sack list, and

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Speaker 1: like those guys have value and Graham ultimately kind of

538
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Speaker 1: got there with his sacks and in game changing moments

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Speaker 1: and Russo's a little.

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Speaker 2: Bit like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I totally respect and appreciate them paying him

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Speaker 3: because he's a guy that on tape you see the

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Speaker 3: difference that he makes and it doesn't show up in

544
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Speaker 3: the numbers, but he's their most disruptive, Like you said,

545
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Speaker 3: edge Rusher on that front, And now that you've freed

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Speaker 3: yourself of the ghost that was von Miller, you can

547
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Speaker 3: redirect that money to him and reward the guy who

548
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Speaker 3: was on you know, an ascending path, and then dedicate

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Speaker 3: some of those other resources to guys like Bernard and

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Speaker 3: and when you look at this front, like you know,

551
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Speaker 3: you talk about needs and everything, I think about edge

552
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Speaker 3: guys and I'm like, I like Russo that's a good number.

553
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Speaker 3: Like I'm fine with that. That's decent.

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Speaker 1: At worst, he's like a good number two or one.

555
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Speaker 1: Be they still have needs there, but they weren't. We're

556
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Speaker 1: seeing these trends are continuing all over the league. The

557
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Speaker 1: smart teams are paying the guys a year early. I

558
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: keep saying, there's too much cap space. So now even

559
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Speaker 1: more of my top one, O one, the middle and

560
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: lower tier guys, they're getting resignings in the negotiating period.

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Speaker 1: They're not even making it to the market because teams

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Speaker 1: are realizing, like we shouldn't let anyone we even moderately

563
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Speaker 1: like get out there. Who cares if we have to pay,

564
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Speaker 1: We're not going to be able to spend all this

565
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Speaker 1: cap space. You know one team that did spend, that

566
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Speaker 1: consistently spends more cash than just about any team, It

567
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Speaker 1: is your Cleveland Browns. Miles Garrett is staying with the

568
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Speaker 1: Browns one hundred and twenty two million dollars over three years,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty three point five million guaranteed. He

570
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Speaker 1: goes over the top of Max Crosby in terms of

571
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Speaker 1: guaranteed money, most for a defensive player.

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Speaker 2: Ever.

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Speaker 1: I I fell for the okie dook I was. I'm

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Speaker 1: not as concerned of whether you were surprised or not shook.

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Speaker 1: But what do you think? Do you do you think

576
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Speaker 1: this is the right move?

577
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because you don't let Hall of fame generational talents

578
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Speaker 3: at edge Rusher demand their way out because you're the

579
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Speaker 3: compensation you get in that. It's like trading a great

580
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 3: baseball player in his prime. It's never gonna match. Like

581
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 3: if you hit on every guy, it's still not gonna

582
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Speaker 3: match what you're giving up. And I thought when Andrew

583
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Speaker 3: Berry spoke with the Combine about this, he was steadfast,

584
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Speaker 3: and in the fact that they were not interested in

585
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Speaker 3: trading him. He's a big part of their plans and

586
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Speaker 3: everything else. So it seemed like it just came down

587
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Speaker 3: to convincing him to stay. And you know what convinces people,

588
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 3: greg forty million dollars a year will convince you to stay.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what else they told him. Maybe they

590
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 3: told him their plan and he liked it. But I

591
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Speaker 3: think that the power of the dollar was definitely significant

592
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 3: in this one, and it essentially all but insures that

593
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Speaker 3: he'll probably finishes his career there. And I mean, crazier

594
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 3: things have happened, and from a football perspective, it makes

595
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Speaker 3: all the sense in the world.

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Speaker 1: I think that the deal might not look great in

597
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Speaker 1: the long run. We'll see, yeah he's at the back end.

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Speaker 1: If he's thirty six and you know, struggling. Yeah, we'll

599
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Speaker 1: see he's forty years old. I mean, he's thirty years old.

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00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: Forty would be wild. He's making forty million a year.

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Speaker 1: I just thought, if what you're saying is true, that

602
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: you couldn't make up for what he was in a

603
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: trade package, You're right, I guess I will never know that.

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Speaker 1: I would think that Garrett could have gotten a good

605
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: trade package. But you're right, there's a huge difference between

606
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Speaker 1: getting two two's and a five and getting two ones

607
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: and a three. Like I don't know where that offer

608
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: what like where it's from.

609
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Speaker 3: If it's from where the one in the back half

610
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Speaker 3: of the first round, it's not worth it.

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Speaker 2: I I don't know.

612
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Speaker 1: But they're in a unique spot where because of the

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson contract, if they got a big return, I

614
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Speaker 1: thought it did make football sense to not pay Miles

615
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: Garrett forty million dollars a year and give him what

616
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Speaker 1: he wants. I do wonder if the fact that you

617
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: know Andrew Berry and Stefanski they got to win now,

618
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: but especially the front office, you know that plays a

619
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Speaker 1: role in it. You know they're not they're not looking

620
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: to rebuild. They just came off a disastrous season. They

621
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Speaker 1: have to win, and clearly they're going to be better

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five with Miles Garrett. And I give

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Speaker 1: Jimmy has some credit for being the type of owner

624
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Speaker 1: that will just spend He really does spend a ton

625
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Speaker 1: of cash.

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Speaker 2: It just hasn't been spent well.

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Speaker 1: And so you hope, hope for the Rams I mean

628
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: the Browns rather that they can figure out quarterback and

629
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Speaker 1: that Miles Garrett isn't wasting these years because you're right,

630
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: you're probably going to get two more great years out

631
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Speaker 1: of him at the least, yeah, before he starts to decline. Yeah,

632
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: of course, But like it just makes you can't weather

633
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: that storm, that fire story, like no matter how because

634
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: Miles was painted like the bad guy in Cleveland over

635
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Speaker 1: the last month, and understandably so you have the media

636
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: tour he on. But yeah, and well, yeah, he was

637
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: pretty agro about it, and there was a report that

638
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: Jimmy has them wouldn't even meet with him, and then

639
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: suddenly this contract happens.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting, I don't.

641
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Speaker 3: Know, it's an interesting example of ownership hardball, where he's like,

642
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 3: I hired a GM to do the job, and I'm

643
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Speaker 3: gonna let him do the job and not you know,

644
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Speaker 3: undermine him by talking to the player directly. I think

645
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 3: if there's players you talk to you directly, it's guys

646
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 3: like Miles Garrett. But at the same time, like when

647
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Speaker 3: you look at it from the full picture, they can't

648
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Speaker 3: afford to have a losing season. Well, guess what they

649
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 3: can't afford to whether the storm of treading away Miles

650
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Speaker 3: Garrett for two ones in the back end of the

651
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Speaker 3: first round that are consecutive years and lose, you know what,

652
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 3: thirteen games again, then they're all fired.

653
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Speaker 1: Right, I'm I'm kind of amazing. Andrew Berry's still there,

654
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: but for.

655
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 2: The million time. Who knows if he's the one that

656
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: actually wanted Watson. Maybe it was ownership. Who cares, let's go.

657
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: I'm just like, man, if you're all part of that,

658
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: you just have to wear it.

659
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 2: And that's just the reality of it. You just have

660
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 2: to wear it.

661
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: It's what they're all going to be remembered for unless

662
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: they do something great moving forward. So Fanski will always

663
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: have those of the coach of the year. He'll probably

664
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: get another job too after Cleveland if he wants it.

665
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: I'm going with Derek Carr is my next most important

666
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: story of the weekend. Very interesting. He stayed with the Saints.

667
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: He didn't change his contract. They had an automatic restructure

668
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: that they could put that they could use, which just

669
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: means he does a sign, he gets all the money

670
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,959
Speaker 1: up front, and they push it out into the future.

671
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: He reportedly refused to take a pay cut. They were

672
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: trying to extend him another year, but while doing that,

673
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: make him take a pay cut but give him some

674
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: guaranteed money for next year. He reportedly refused to, and

675
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: it's being put out there that he was quite open

676
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: to leaving and like calling their bluffy saying like you

677
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: want to cut me? Like cut me. I'm kind of

678
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: cool with that. Weird that that gets out there, Just

679
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: what what are the Saints like now you have a

680
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: quarterback like you? I don't, I don't. I just don't

681
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,479
Speaker 1: get any of it like that. It almost is certain

682
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: that now it's his last year with the Saints. But

683
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: that's a weird way to go into the year because

684
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: his cap number next year, shook is almost seventy million dollars,

685
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: Like they're not going to be able to renegotiate it

686
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: next like because they didn't do it this year. It

687
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: almost sets up a situation where he has to be

688
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: cut next year and have that money spread out. Just

689
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: just weird. I want I want better for the Saints

690
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: fans out there. The argument for it that they also

691
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: put out there kind of through the media is that

692
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: it's going to open up space for them to spend

693
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: more on free agency this year than you would expect.

694
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 3: So yeah, because this cap numbers only in the twenty

695
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 3: million dollar range, and so you can redirect some of

696
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 3: that cap space to try to get better. Mealy, it's

697
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 3: also essentially a stare down that turned into well, you're

698
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 3: abridge quarterback now, so enjoy your last year here and

699
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 3: hopefully you play well enough to earn a deal elsewhere

700
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 3: after we get rid of you next year. Because you

701
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 3: don't want to put a new head coach in a

702
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 3: terrible position where you don't have a quarterback or you

703
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 3: have a rookie. So it makes sense from that perspective,

704
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 3: but it is still kind of strange.

705
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 2: But that's where the Saints are.

706
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 3: But is just in a.

707
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: Position where he has a quarterback that he maybe didn't want.

708
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: Our guys at the Saints Block Party podcast reported that

709
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: Moore didn't really want it. Mickey Loomis is calling the

710
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: shots here and more importantly, like, now you're giving him

711
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: a quarterback that you only have for one year. That's

712
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: probably not your future. And frankly, I'd be shocked if

713
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: they don't draft a quarterback. I to me, they're the

714
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: odds on favorite for Shador Sanders.

715
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: That's my hot.

716
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 3: Yes, but what is the alternative. The alternative is Spencer

717
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: Rather cut.

718
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: Cut Derek Carr, take your pain and sign someone that's

719
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: basically as good as Derek Carr, Jacobe Brissett or whoever.

720
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 2: Like what's the differences him?

721
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 3: But at twenty million, how much are you really saving

722
00:33:58,600 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 3: by cutting him?

723
00:33:59,240 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: Now?

724
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 3: Like it's it's that the cap number this year is

725
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 3: what makes it possible, which is why.

726
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: So they are going to try to win this year

727
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: and they'll do it by using some of this cap

728
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,959
Speaker 1: space with one more year of Derek Carr.

729
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 2: Just like it.

730
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: It's just it's just one of from the outside, the

731
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: most confounding organizations in the league.

732
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: And it's not like it's going well. Push Sehn.

733
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 3: They sold their soul to the Football Devil when they

734
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 3: extended Breeze and pushed all that money down the road.

735
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 2: They're still paying.

736
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: For sure, sure, but Car is different. Carr is is

737
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: Derek Carr. Ronnie, I think he was interested in what

738
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: was behind door number two, which makes you wonder, like,

739
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: what was that? Was it Tennessee? Was it New York?

740
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: I think he did have a market, and I think

741
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: he knew it. Ronnie Stanley is staying with the Ravens.

742
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: Shout out to Jordan Rodrieg, who pointed to the signs

743
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: that he maybe didn't want to test what was out there.

744
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: Forty four million dollars guaranteed three for sixty great money

745
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: for a guy whose career was in trouble because of

746
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: health concerns, but not a crazy He's a huge deal,

747
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: kind of like the Steelers. And we'll see what the

748
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: dk once we peek under the hood. The Wevens always

749
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: get like better deals than you expect. This is like

750
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: a little better deals. It's almost like they get a

751
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: discount for being so smart. I'm sure he could have

752
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 1: gotten more than from the Patriots.

753
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 2: How dare you?

754
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I want to say I had him expected

755
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 3: in like the twenty five to twenty seven million dollars reeks.

756
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 1: Yeah.

757
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 3: The year he had and this is an example of

758
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 3: betting on yourself paying off because he took a pay

759
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 3: cut to stay because he knew he wasn't worth the

760
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 3: money they were spending him, because he just couldn't be

761
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 3: available enough. And then he went and had a great year,

762
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 3: a fantastic year, and he instead of going for the

763
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 3: biggest dollar value, he instead stays with the team that

764
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 3: he knows well that has trusted him and given him

765
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 3: the time, just as he's given them the concession of financially,

766
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 3: and now he gets rewarded at a number that's not

767
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 3: extreme and it's feasible, and it fits into what the

768
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 3: organization wants to do.

769
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: Yep, good organizations stay good by making moves like this.

770
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 2: One last thing to worry about.

771
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 1: They have plenty more to work on for the offensive

772
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: line and the Edge group will see what they do

773
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: this week. All Right, The rest of the stories that

774
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: we talk about today, and there's a lot of deals,

775
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: would probably lead the show or be second on the

776
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:10,720
Speaker 1: show for most of the next three months. The funny

777
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: thing is like the entire offseason is going to happen

778
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: over the next three or four days, and a lot

779
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 1: of it's already happened, and then we'll spend like five

780
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: months talking about it. But the Chiefs were very active.

781
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 1: Nick Bolton back for three years, forty five million. See

782
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: it's all very similar. Ernest Jones. We'll have Jamie Sherwood

783
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: coming up for the Jets three years forty five million.

784
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: Glad they kept him. Really a lynch pint to their defense,

785
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown is back for the same contract he signed

786
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: for a year ago, basically one year for eleven million dollars.

787
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: And let's I'll stop there before getting into Xavier Worthies arrest.

788
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 1: I think they really wanted Ronnie Stanley. That's what Daniel

789
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: Jeremiah was hinting around at. And look, he hinted around

790
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: at multiple things to be on and off air. Every

791
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 1: single one of them has happened except for Ronnie Stanley.

792
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: And that makes me think that they saw or knew

793
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: that the price was being driven up by their rivals,

794
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and the Ravens, you know, stepped up to

795
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: the plate. That is what I expect happen. But they

796
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 1: use some of that money on Nick Bolton, Hollywood Brown,

797
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: smart moves.

798
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Hollywood Brown didn't get to come back to

799
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 3: the team until the second half of the season, so

800
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 3: he did never really got his feet underneath him, and

801
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 3: then they were in the super Bowl and had a

802
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 3: dreadful performance. But it does hurt me that they don't

803
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 3: address tackle and they don't get the opportunity to swing

804
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 3: at a guy like they got more time. They got

805
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 3: more time, right time, they have time and Nick Bolton.

806
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 3: I think the Nick Bolton thing's weird because we've talked

807
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 3: about this. I think we talked about this in the

808
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 3: Tag primer where he makes big time plays in key spots,

809
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 3: but play by play basis, he's not like the most consistent.

810
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 3: He's actually like kind of declined in that regard. But

811
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 3: he's one of theirs. He's one of their homegrown and

812
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 3: you get him at fifteen a year, which is like

813
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 3: Terrell Bernard's twelve and I have and it's still pretty

814
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 3: good for a guy who's still very young, who you

815
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 3: expect to develop more. So both makes sense, totally different moves.

816
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 3: Both fit into the grand scheme of this franchise, but

817
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 3: they still have a lot of work to do.

818
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: And to hear Claybhn's voice in my head laughing that,

819
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: I think Hollywood Brown coming back is a good move.

820
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: They his speed changed their offense. He's a good secondary receiver.

821
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: He has already learned the scheme. Worthy, who was arrested

822
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: over the weekend for a domestic violence incident that involved

823
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: strangulation at his house, including a family member. Those were

824
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: the details from the Williamson County Sheriff's Office. Has Ultimately,

825
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: they decided to release a statement that says the following

826
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 1: after further investigation and further discussion with a third party witness,

827
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: mister Worthy in his attorneys, this case is being declined

828
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: at this time Penny and completion of the investigation by

829
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: the Williamson County Sheriff's office. So right now he was arrested,

830
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: but the case is now being declined, but they are investigating.

831
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: Those are very serious allegations. We'll see what happens if

832
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 1: he's on the field him Rashi Rice in Hollywood Brown

833
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: with Travis Kelce in Noah Gray, maybe they'll add to that.

834
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 2: But that's a.

835
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: Receiver group, that's a that's a rock solid receiver group,

836
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: and it's have to dismiss the seriousness of these allegations,

837
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: but at this point they were declined, so it's hard

838
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: to really.

839
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 2: Speak on that.

840
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: But man, the Chiefs, they have a lot of guys

841
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: that have a lot of issues off the field.

842
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 2: It's a little bit by design. Yeah, it really agreed.

843
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 3: They take risks and sometimes it pays off in the

844
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 3: football field and sometimes it doesn't, and that is part

845
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 3: of the risk.

846
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: YEP Commander's Corner Jonathan Allen. We haven't even done a

847
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: show since he got released. Unless I snuck that into

848
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: the DJ show. I'm losing track of days. So he

849
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: is out there on the free agent wire and he's in.

850
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 2: My top forty five now.

851
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: I think he can help a team out as a

852
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: as a helpful rotational end.

853
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: They brought back zach.

854
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: Ertz for one year, six point two five million dollar

855
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 1: and they brought back Bobby Wagner for eight million dollars.

856
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:07,919
Speaker 3: Guaranteed, they've already made the trade for Debo. They bring

857
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 3: back a veteran leader on both sides of the ball.

858
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 3: I mean that defense overachieved last year and a lot

859
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 3: of it was because of Bobby Wagner, and the offense

860
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 3: kept moving because Jade Daniels could rely on zach Ertz

861
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 3: and key moments. So both of them earned these contracts.

862
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 3: They're both short term. They make a lot of sense,

863
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 3: and they're obviously attacking this with the Debo trade, and

864
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 3: I don't think they're They're not very even close to

865
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 3: finish yet.

866
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: They were rumored to be in the mix for DK.

867
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: That's what I heard, and I still think that they

868
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: can consider something like that. Who knows how much DK

869
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: had a role to play in this. I mean he

870
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: wanted to play somewhere warm, and he ended up in Pittsburgh. Look,

871
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: if if you want to play some more warm, you

872
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: want to live somewhere warm, you just got to make

873
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: a priority. That was my number one priority for college.

874
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: I wanted to, you know, and I made it happen.

875
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 2: I went to a state school in Ohio.

876
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: I wanted to go to a warm cet. I was like,

877
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: I want to go live in the city and I

878
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: want to go so warm. Kids out there that are listening,

879
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: I actually think that was pretty solid thinking, yeah, good

880
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: categories on the east coast of the Midwest.

881
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 3: Leave your state for school. I just promise you it'll

882
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 3: work out.

883
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: And like, look, Ertz and Wagner could fall off a

884
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: cliff this year. But that's why I keep saying for

885
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: this is the benefit of having the commander, specifically having

886
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: so much gas.

887
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 2: Sweet.

888
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if they're a little a lot of money.

889
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: They're they're off off a cliff there. They wanted them back,

890
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: and they've got more than enough to spend. Lions Corner.

891
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: They cut Sadarius Smith very surprised about that. Derek Brarnes,

892
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: who I didn't put in the top one one because

893
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 1: he's coming off a serious injury gets three for twenty

894
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 1: five million dollars. He's kind of a hybrid linebacker edge rusher,

895
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: but more of a linebacker. And then they brought back

896
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: Marcus Davenport, who didn't end up playing for them really

897
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: last year one for four, who did sneak into the

898
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 1: end of my one on one an interesting set of moves,

899
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: none of which I particularly expect.

900
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 2: Did.

901
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: Zadarius Smith I thought played pretty well for them, but

902
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: maybe they just didn't see him as a scheme fit

903
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 1: or something, or just wanted to prioritize some younger guys

904
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: like Barnes and Davenport, even that they know better.

905
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's prioritizing younger guys, and I think that they're

906
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 3: still looking to make some sort of splash. Might be

907
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 3: more in name value than actual player quality, but there

908
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 3: is some talent out there, and they know that they

909
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 3: need to upgrade that position opposite Aiden Hudchson when he

910
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 3: returns from that broken leg. I mean, yeah, Zadarius played

911
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 3: pretty well, like he played like the guy you traded

912
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 3: for in the middle of the season, But I don't

913
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 3: think that's good enough for them, and they understand that.

914
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 1: So Mike Asiki top tight end to me in free

915
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: agency is back with the Bengals. So the Bengals spending

916
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: some money. Three for twenty five million dollars. Nice career

917
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: comeback for Gasiki, who was starting to bounce around. And

918
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: I thought before that Bengals contact was borderline not staying

919
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: in the league and had a great year. And Trey

920
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: Hendrickson has said there's nowhere he'd rather be than Cincinnati,

921
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: but he's on the trade block. The reports are that

922
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: the Commanders are in the mix. The Falcons and the

923
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: Cardinals depending on which local reporter, which national reporter you believe,

924
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: have also been mentioned, so that that's an interesting one.

925
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: Vikings corner here Aaron Jones gets thirteen million dollars for

926
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Shout out to Aaron Jones. I like them,

927
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: but that shows how much they really valued him. Two

928
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: for twenty overall pretty pretty top running back money. Like

929
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: a little surprise there, but I ranked him high, so

930
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,959
Speaker 1: I like the deal. And then since we've last talked,

931
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: Nick Donald, not expected back that that was thrown out there.

932
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 2: Even before the Geno trade.

933
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: It really makes me think, like all these teams kind

934
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: of know they were all there's the whisper markets out there.

935
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: Suddenly Donald was not expected back. That was before the

936
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,720
Speaker 1: Geno trade even happened. He must have had that contract

937
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: offer in place. Supposedly they're into Danny Dimes.

938
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: We'll see.

939
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: Remember they did have him back as they're back. I

940
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 1: mean he would be a backup in that scenario.

941
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 3: Two items before. Hendrickson want to pair him with the

942
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 3: team we just talked about the Lions. I don't think

943
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 3: that that market is only those three teams. They all

944
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 3: make sense, but I do want to pay him there.

945
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 3: And then the Aaron Jones thing. Thirty year old, right,

946
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 3: so like the thirty year wall. But he had like

947
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 3: fifteen hundred scrimmer yards last year and he fit in

948
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 3: really well and he loves it there. So I see

949
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 3: why they frontload that and say all right, well we'll

950
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 3: give you this year and then if you still play well,

951
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 3: then we have even cheaper next year. That makes a

952
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 3: lot of sense as well. Now, on the other hand,

953
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 3: the idea of being in on Danny Dimes, he could

954
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 3: be reclaimed somewhere maybe who knows.

955
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's save that toll he actually does sign. I

956
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: do have a lot of taught I agree with you

957
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: he's not the same Dimes that he was four years ago.

958
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: He's had massive injuries. But they had him in the

959
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: building and they got to evaluate him. We'll see what

960
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: the money is there. I really think JJ McCarthy is

961
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: the Week one starter if Danny Dimes is the other

962
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: guy there. All Right, I'm gonna fly through the rest

963
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: of these because I do want to wrap up here today.

964
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: If you really want to jump in, do it. But

965
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: Harold Landry got a minor, like a major deal from

966
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: the Patriots. So he was released by the Titans on Thursday,

967
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: and he got twenty six million dollars guaranteed three for

968
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:07,959
Speaker 1: forty three million. Patriots fans are like, hey, we need

969
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 1: Mike Rabel in charge. Can't have Elliott Wolf fronting things.

970
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,760
Speaker 1: We need Rabel to go get a Titan to get

971
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 1: like Harold Landry, a declining player that no one wanted

972
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: to trade for, that is in PFF's bottom ten percent

973
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 1: dial in terms of pass rush rate over the last

974
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: couple of years. But he does get a lot of sacks.

975
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: He is a good run defender. I don't know it

976
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: was the type of signing that Belichick would have made

977
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: when it wasn't going well late, we'll see. It's a

978
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: lot of money. I know they have a lot of

979
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: money to spend.

980
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 2: But he's a rabl guy though, so he's a real history.

981
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: The Bucks resigned Levonte David for nine million dollars guaranteed

982
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 1: love Lemonte David did show decline last year, but he's

983
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: earned that money. Baron Browning is back with the Cardinals

984
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: two for fifteen, so they trade for him at midseason,

985
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: saw enough of him to get him back at a

986
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: pretty low cost deal. Didn't want on a bet on himself,

987
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: probably had an idea wasn't going to do better. I

988
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,439
Speaker 1: keep mentioning these lower tier guys are getting signed now

989
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 1: in the negotiating period when they normally went. The Falcon

990
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: signed Jake Matthews to an extension two for forty five,

991
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: thirty eight million dollars guaranteed. I present to you my

992
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: theory shook that he is the offensive lineman version of

993
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. What slightly better than average player has made

994
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: more money than Jake Matthews.

995
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,919
Speaker 3: I mean, hey, just got more money per year than

996
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 3: Ronnie Stanley.

997
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: Right, and it was tacked on to a deal that

998
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: his contract is almost like the Derek Carr contract where

999
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: it's like they keep having to extend it out to

1000
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: make up for what was before and help their cap space.

1001
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 1: And then just some one liners here. Since we last talked,

1002
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: the Chargers got rid of Gus Edwards. The gust Buss

1003
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: is loose. The Raiders got rid of their starting center,

1004
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: Andre James. The Panther has resigned a handful of players,

1005
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: including Austin Corbett and Tommy Tremble. They're tight end Chris

1006
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: Manhertz and then the Jamie Gillen. The Scott Hammer is

1007
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: back with the Giants.

1008
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 2: Let's go.

1009
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: The Trey Smith signed his franchise tag. Which does that

1010
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: make him easier to trade? Just just something I think

1011
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: about it, do it? Don't do anything?

1012
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 2: But maybe not?

1013
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: Maybe just want to lock in that money before something

1014
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: we were having. Jarrett Stidham is staying with the Broncos

1015
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: two for twelve. He's been getting those backup quarterback He's

1016
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 1: kind of the sneaky Chase Daniel of his era, making

1017
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: a lot of money as a backup. Austin Hooper returns

1018
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: to the Pats for five million dollars. We're gonna have

1019
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: so much on Monday. The schedule this week Shook, You're

1020
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,439
Speaker 1: going to be back on Wednesday, that's officially the first

1021
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: day of the league year. Could have some more trades

1022
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: by then. Monday figures to be really busy. Obviously, we

1023
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: got you covered on NFL Network. I'm going to be

1024
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: on the Insiders if you guys happen to watch that

1025
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,720
Speaker 1: on the network, And then we wanted to tape towards

1026
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: the end of the day. That's going to be the

1027
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 1: schedule so that we get everything that we can into

1028
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: that show at least on Monday, So Patrick, Claybahn and

1029
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: I will be taping, you know, late in the evening

1030
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: West Coast time, So these shows will be coming out

1031
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: a little later the first couple of days of the week.

1032
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: But we will be doing a show it's in the

1033
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: title every day this week. Great great cast of characters.

1034
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: Colleen and Jordan will be in for Tuesday's show and football.

1035
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: It was it was making me think, Shook. It's a

1036
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 1: little like the difference between football and baseball in general.

1037
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: It's like the seasons, like the baseball is like game

1038
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: after game, day after day after day.

1039
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 2: Whereas football is just like Sunday. It's just like an

1040
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 2: orgasm of sport.

1041
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: And that's that's what that's what free agency is too,

1042
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: compared to baseball, which just drags on. There's summer early,

1043
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: there's some late, there's some whatever. It's like football, it's

1044
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: all done and then you can get to bed.

1045
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 3: You know. Look, I'm gonna tread carefully here, but I

1046
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 3: would think I would rather do it all in a

1047
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 3: few days and really just go for broke, then be like, oh,

1048
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 3: it's Saturday at four pm, and so and so just

1049
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 3: sign with the Yankees.

1050
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 2: Cool.

1051
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: It is one of my favorite weeks on the NFL calendar,

1052
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: looking forward to it, thanks again to Shuki.

1053
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 2: Let's play it out. What is it.

1054
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: It's noon on the East Coast, nine am Pacific. I mean,

1055
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 1: by the time you guys hear this, some more signings

1056
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: will be kind of I mean, yes, when when we're

1057
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:17,760
Speaker 1: reshaping the entire freaking NFL, you know, football it's back