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Speaker 2: Uh So where to begin to? Where do you The

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Speaker 2: plane ride last night, I'm sure was one with frustration.

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Speaker 2: That was one of the ones that you probably were

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Speaker 2: glad it was a shorter flight, uh last night. But

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Speaker 2: how does everybody uh kind of keep a positive attitude

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Speaker 3: I just say, man, everybody got going there? Man, just

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Speaker 3: go out there and just try to you know, just

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Speaker 3: try to win. At this point, you know, we you know,

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Speaker 3: we lost the last two games, and I just say, man,

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Speaker 3: everybody go out there and just buy in and what

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Speaker 3: out there and just be focused and just trying to win.

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Speaker 3: Anything you do out there on the field, just you know,

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Speaker 4: You're more of like a lead by example type of guy,

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Speaker 4: who has been kind of like the person to kind

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Speaker 3: Say Dak Prescott for show. You know, he the leader

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Speaker 3: this came a surprise. You know, coming to the season.

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Speaker 3: You know Demo, you know, the linebacker and number thirteen.

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Speaker 3: You know he's he's an unbelievable player. Man, He's no,

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Speaker 3: he's you know, he's one of those guys. Know he

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Speaker 2: Some people may not notice this. Usually, Uh, DeMarcus Lawrence,

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Speaker 2: then de log got hurt. Touch and Dak's done it for.

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Speaker 2: But I noticed yesterday that it was overshown.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, always that. Yeah, like he's I don't know what

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Speaker 4: So what was something that he might have said yesterday

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I could see it right here

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he was just saying, like, like, if it,

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Speaker 3: You know. He's just just saying, if it, just go

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Speaker 2: You know. For him, Uh, he's coming off a year

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Speaker 2: You come into this with I saying, we've had this

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Speaker 2: Does that help?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I just say, man, just you know, just looking

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Speaker 4: How would you describe your journey?

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Speaker 3: I just say, loan, yeah, very long. I'll be playing

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Speaker 3: football for what four years straight? You know, no stop?

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Speaker 3: You know, I just stay long man, very long. But

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Speaker 2: So let's talk a little bit about uh well, I

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Speaker 2: you're adjusting now of playing with Cooper rush So for you,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how many reps you get with Cooper

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Speaker 2: What's what's the difference, what's for a receiver and especially

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Speaker 3: I just say for me, I just say, you know,

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Speaker 3: I came in like three years ago. You know, Cooper

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Speaker 3: me and him got a lot of chem sheyts just

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Speaker 3: The last guy you know we was was connected with

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Speaker 3: some passes. But Cooper Rushman, I just say, he just

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Speaker 3: always stay ready. You know, even when his number is called,

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Speaker 3: he's always ready, you know, seeing behind deck, learned behind deck.

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Speaker 3: But when his numbers call, he ready to perform. And

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Speaker 3: he's just one of those guys to just keep his head.

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Speaker 3: He don't even say much, but he keep his head

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Speaker 4: You talk about when his numbers called he performs h

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Speaker 4: and that was something that even Mike McCarthy had mentioned

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Speaker 4: How good does it for you guys? Does it make

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Speaker 4: you guys feel as far as confidence knowing that you

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Speaker 4: the way he does it, Just.

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Speaker 3: Like Cooper know he been in his offense you know

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Speaker 3: for what six six seven years?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm confident in them. He comforted in hisself.

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Speaker 3: So with our receiver, Courd, I just feel like we

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Speaker 3: to be open. Not not seeing that it's Cooper Rushing.

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Speaker 3: Anybody that quarterback, even if it's Tree, Lance knowes they

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Speaker 4: What do you like that Cooper Rush brings to this offense?

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Speaker 3: Uh? Competitive? You know, he don't speak, but he gonna

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Speaker 2: Though, Well, how's it different in the huddle?

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Speaker 3: In huddle he stayed with he got the same way

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Speaker 3: Dannis out to the Knicks. You know, way he go

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Speaker 2: Brian Schottenheimer was saying today the offensive coordinator that, and

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Speaker 2: we've heard him say it before, the Cooper is one

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Speaker 2: of the most intelligent quarterbacks that he's ever been around.

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Speaker 2: What differentiates and does it feel like there's even a

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Speaker 2: not saying he's not talking about physicality or skill set,

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Speaker 3: Not to be honest, he's to me, he's not the backup.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's he can go to any team and

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Speaker 3: I feel like he can start. You know, there's certain

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Speaker 3: it's like it's just like that, you know, he come in,

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Speaker 3: he you know He's just like a leader. You know,

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Speaker 3: he go out there and just you know, try to

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Speaker 4: What's the confidence level one of the other guys in

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Speaker 3: Uh, everybody can you know? They know Cool gonna you know,

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Speaker 3: go through his all his reads. You know, he's not

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Speaker 3: But he's gonna go through all his wa Even with

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Speaker 3: the run game, he's gonna he's gonna get it going.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of the run game, how good did it see?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean the last two weeks when he'd been

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Speaker 4: How do you keep those from those frustrations from not

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Speaker 2: Give me an example of that. What what I'll start

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Speaker 3: Like I was saying, they just it's hard right now.

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Speaker 3: You know, everybody trying their bitch just to win, you know,

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Speaker 2: So the Cowboys will be playing the Philadelphia Eagles on

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Speaker 3: Man, been like two weeks for sure.

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Speaker 2: And do you look forward to just the familiarity of

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Speaker 3: Man, To be honest, I'm just trying to get a win,

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Speaker 2: Go You don't get where it is.

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Speaker 3: Great, because no, we'll be one and no division, so

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Speaker 4: What's the difference for you from when you first step

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Speaker 2: What were you selling?

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Speaker 3: I'm just in a consistent stand setting up toes coachs popcorn.

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Speaker 4: You just decided to do that.

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Speaker 3: No, not to be rid. I was just at that point,

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Speaker 4: Team on kickoff returns. What's your what's the mindset when

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to score over and play. But the mindset

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Speaker 2: I mean it's you understand that they've seen you return

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I feel like it's better because

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Speaker 3: But if it's inside the feed there forty thirty, I

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Speaker 4: What do you feel like separates you from other punt returns,

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Speaker 4: How has your vision improved over the last couple of years?

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Speaker 4: And from college because you were a hell of a

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Speaker 3: I just say, like, man, coming to this year, it

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Speaker 3: but not like this year's it opened up for because

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Speaker 3: now I got the context and so it's it's pretty

437
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Speaker 3: much clear pretty.

438
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:04,879
Speaker 4: Much, so you're seeing the context.

439
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Speaker 3: Help a lot, right, help a lot.

440
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,439
Speaker 2: Let's let's let's just make sure everyone understands.

441
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Speaker 3: Help a lot.

442
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 2: This is the first year you've been playing with contact legs, yes.

443
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,400
Speaker 3: Sir, And before that I was blind out there.

444
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:19,880
Speaker 4: That's insane.

445
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 3: I was bleary.

446
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 4: Yes, So you was just out there just running, just.

447
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 3: Out there running.

448
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 2: So if you're if you're returning a punt and you're

449
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 2: standing back there, not this year and you're standing back here, look,

450
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 2: can you is there a certain point where you say, oh,

451
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 2: there it is.

452
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, when it's coming down, Yeah, when it's when I

453
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 3: see it and it's coming down. Yeah, that's when I yeah,

454
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 3: that's when I know it was.

455
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Speaker 2: It blurry or clear?

456
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 3: It's bleary? Yeah yeah the last two years. Yeah it's bleary.

457
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 3: I couldn't really see it, like my house is bad,

458
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,120
Speaker 3: like bad bad?

459
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Speaker 4: Oh my yeah, actually bimboozels right now this is crazy.

460
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 2: Sure, So what's so what difference does it make if

461
00:22:59,080 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 2: you can see how?

462
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 3: How uh you see a difference now? Like I don't

463
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,919
Speaker 3: even get too many chances now, No, that's why I

464
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 3: scold on on the Cleveland game. I can see way

465
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 3: you better to do the holes then.

466
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Speaker 2: So that's an that's a really interesting thing because you

467
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 2: think the first thing I thought of was picking up

468
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 2: the ball, But you're talking about also being able to see.

469
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Speaker 3: I see my blockers. Yeah, my blockers see everybody. That

470
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 3: pretty much. I can see the ball. But it's pretty

471
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,919
Speaker 3: much like reading the blocks, seeing the blocks before happy,

472
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 3: like I like everything just was bluerry like the last

473
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 3: two years. So you were going on in state, Yeah,

474
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 3: pretty much pretty much. I was going on the things.

475
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,120
Speaker 4: And you also had to know who was aligned where

476
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 4: they were aligned at pretty much pretty much.

477
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Speaker 2: And so now you're back to when when when did

478
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 2: you get these contexts uh going into train a count

479
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,159
Speaker 2: this year? Yes, sir, So you go into the preseason?

480
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,919
Speaker 2: Did you return in the preseason? They didn't you see you?

481
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 2: That's how you know you've made it in the NFL.

482
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 2: You are now too valuable to return in the preseason game. Yes,

483
00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 2: so okay. So so we're Cleveland to start the season

484
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 2: and the first punk comes down and you look and

485
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 2: so what's that experience? You're looking up and saying, oh, damn,

486
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 2: I can see where they are.

487
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I really can see. Yeah, that's pretty much that

488
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 3: like going into the Cleveland game, like the first the

489
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 3: first part return. This is what I knew was better

490
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 3: when when I caught the ball and I had to

491
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 3: run right now, like I can see, I can like

492
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 3: look and prefer like why I want to go pretty

493
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 3: much like last year in the year before, I had

494
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Speaker 3: to just go down like we have like a rocket return,

495
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 3: Like rocket is pretty much going right like like the

496
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 3: first two years, if I had a Rocker return, I

497
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 3: had to go right now, Like this year, I can

498
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 3: take my time, set the blocks up and like make

499
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 3: it way more easy for my blockers.

500
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Speaker 2: Who did you tell? Did did coach Fossil know this

501
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,199
Speaker 2: nobody on the coaching staff knows. Did the trainers know

502
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 2: he knew I was blind?

503
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, they knew. They knew for sure, Yeah they knew.

504
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 2: And now that these these athletic trainers are award winners,

505
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,919
Speaker 2: this is as good a training staff as there is

506
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 2: in professional sports. Did anybody ever say to you, Turp,

507
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 2: it's dangerous going out there, like wearing a bag over

508
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 2: your head, manage that you can't do it?

509
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 3: Nah? Pretty much. They wouldn't say it because I was.

510
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 3: I was still out there making plays, so it seemed

511
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 3: like if they did, it seemed like it wasn't effector Well,

512
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 3: when I got the context, it made it way more clear.

513
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 2: But did anybody say to you that you ought to

514
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 2: do something about this?

515
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 3: Nah? Not really, So what made you do it? I

516
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 3: just feel like it would be better for me.

517
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 2: To see Yes, that's good Yes for me, Yes, yeah, yes,

518
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 2: that is a good thing. Well then, how has it?

519
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 2: I can only imagine how it has influenced your work

520
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 2: as a receiver.

521
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much.

522
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is why you've got more catches. It's part

523
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 2: of the reason that you got more catches in the

524
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 2: first half of this year than you did all of

525
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 2: last year.

526
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much.

527
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, So so what do you see differently when you're

528
00:25:58,480 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 2: running around?

529
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 3: I really can. Redefense is way more clear, Like I

530
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 3: see like when they trying to disguise, I already know

531
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 3: what's going on. Like last year was it was just

532
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 3: a lot going on in my head. Last year, like

533
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 3: I was really didn't know what was going on because

534
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 3: it like my first year really like playing receive and

535
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 3: I know how defensive coordinator to do with the schemes

536
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 3: and stuff. And then like this year it got way

537
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 3: more clear because I guess, I say, of the contexts

538
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 3: and like pretty much learning too, you know, learning the

539
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 3: field room learning and pretty much learning from CD Lamb too,

540
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 3: and like he helped me out a lot, you know,

541
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 3: learning defenses and stuff like that. So they helped me

542
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Speaker 3: out a lot.

543
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Speaker 2: We're gonna we're gonna take our next break. Well, we

544
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 2: all think about what it would be like to try

545
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 2: to return kicks or play receiver in the NFL when

546
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Speaker 2: you can't really see. And then we'll be back and

547
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Speaker 2: get more into it with Cavante Turpin on the Cowboys

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553
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561
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Speaker 4: have you embraced Brad Sham kind of mentioned it a

562
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Speaker 4: little bit of your role getting a little bit bigger.

563
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Speaker 4: How have you kind of embraced that, you.

564
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Speaker 3: Know, just give an opportunity to know, we just go

565
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 3: out there on the office and you know it just

566
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 3: trying to make plays, you know, you know that's the

567
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 3: one thing that I came to the NFL trying to do.

568
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 3: You know's just trying to show, you know, all the gms.

569
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 3: Anybody thirty two teams that you know, I'm more than

570
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 3: a special team guy. Know I could be you know,

571
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 3: it's gadget guy. Whatever you need me to be on

572
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 3: the office end, know, you know, be a decoy guy,

573
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 3: you know, whatever you need me. So, you know, in

574
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 3: my role on the office. And I feel like we

575
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 3: got better this year.

576
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Speaker 2: Coach McCarthy talked in training camp about I was talking

577
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: to him one day about the young receivers Illinois, and

578
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 2: you had some other rookies and obviously Brooks is still

579
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 2: a young receiver and Tolbert is for that matter. Uh

580
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: And and he made a special point of saying, but

581
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,479
Speaker 2: you know, Turpin is a receiver. He's not just a

582
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 2: return man. So you had a sense coming into the

583
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: year that they had a more confidence than you and

584
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: a bigger role planned.

585
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,959
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I had, especially with the CD stuff going on,

586
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 3: doing doing off season, I knew they were gonna doing

587
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 3: off sea, I mean, doing the training camp. I knew

588
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 3: they were gonna, you know, throw me in there see

589
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 3: what I could do. So I was ready for it,

590
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 3: you know, just and I feel I did training cont

591
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 3: when I Dan just you know, showed them that I

592
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 3: can be able to run rounds any count of rock

593
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 3: did they need any run? You know? And then and

594
00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 3: they played off.

595
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: Okay, So let's talk about that because I'm really interested

596
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 2: in this part of it because clearly you can run

597
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 2: any kind of route. Now, if you are running in

598
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Speaker 2: a drill on air, it's a little different than if

599
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 2: you are then if you're going up against the six

600
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: to one hundred and ninety pound cornerback right. And we

601
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 2: had a great example, was it two games ago where

602
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: you ran two routes down the sideline, one of them

603
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 2: end of the game, you know you might have had

604
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 2: a chance to catch it, but it was contestant, and

605
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 2: the other one you were you had two bigger guys

606
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Speaker 2: on you. It didn't feel to me like those are

607
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 2: the best routes for you. I like you in space,

608
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: but why are those routes that are okay for you

609
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Speaker 2: to run?

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Speaker 3: I just feel like, well, what is we all got

611
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 3: two and the guys they really can you know, take

612
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 3: the top off the defense, and you know they try

613
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 3: to use me and be cooks for that, you know,

614
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 3: So I feel like, you know, that's a good route,

615
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 3: but I just feel like if if it's double coaty,

616
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 3: but you know, the guy gonna go over there on

617
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 3: tied of me. You shouldn't throw it by pretty much.

618
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 3: You should put me like on posts, like not go balls,

619
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 3: not too many go balls, but like post routes, and

620
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 3: I feel like they'll be best on a post route.

621
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Speaker 2: And then look and then there's things like uh, screams

622
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: and digs, and there's things that get you out into space.

623
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Speaker 2: Do you really look forward to the cause that isn't

624
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 2: that's the best opportunity for you to use your natural skills.

625
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much. Just just like Pittsburgh week. I feel

626
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 3: like they used me great during the Pittsburgh game, you know,

627
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 3: going into motion, you know, running bubbles, running, and I

628
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 3: feel like that. I feel like that's how they should

629
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Speaker 3: use me, you know, doing whatever they want to use

630
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 3: me in a game plan. No, use me like they

631
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 3: you know, bubble or screens, you know, stuff like that,

632
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 3: Let me run away from the defense, let me stress

633
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 3: on the defense. So I feel like I feel like

634
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 3: it would be great they use me like that.

635
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: Now.

636
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Speaker 2: You know, you're talking about going in motion and we've

637
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 2: seen with great success you and CD both run the

638
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 2: fly sweep, so you're a threat. They've got to think

639
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: about it. Whenever you go in motion, and I always

640
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 2: think about whenever I see you getting the ball in

641
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 2: the fly sweep, if they've sniffed that out. There's a

642
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 2: there's a lot of large people denying you anywhere to run.

643
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 2: This is not like running a route. Yeah right, how

644
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 2: what's talk us through that?

645
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Speaker 3: This is pretty much man. No, I'm a small guy,

646
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,479
Speaker 3: but you know I got the heart of a lion,

647
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 3: so pretty much, you know, I was any big thing

648
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 3: to be. You know, it's just when guys hit me,

649
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 3: it ain't it's not rid of them, It's it's the ground.

650
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 3: You know, that ground is undefeated. That's what hurt people.

651
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 3: Like people getting hit hard and all that, that doesn't

652
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 3: hurt people. It's getting how you land on their ground.

653
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 3: That's that's what hurt people. So that's what I be

654
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Speaker 3: afraid of, you know, hitting the ground hard because that

655
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 3: you bounce back off on the ground.

656
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 2: Interesting, go ahead.

657
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 4: You talk about the versatility of the way different routes

658
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 4: that you like to run in the ways that they

659
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 4: can play you in this offense, you also have to

660
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 4: be able to move them have to be able to

661
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 4: move you around. You can play the boundary inside. Where

662
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 4: do you feel most comfortable lining up.

663
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 3: I like the slot, you know, I know that's you know,

664
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 3: that's one of the spots that I grew uh you know,

665
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 3: grew up playing, you know, especially in college. You know,

666
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 3: I was always in the slide with like while the

667
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 3: space at so I feel way more comfortable on the spot.

668
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 3: But if they want to put me on outside, I

669
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 3: can be able to know run decour ross for CD

670
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 3: if they put them in a slot. You know, if

671
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 3: they need me to do it, you know I can

672
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 3: do it.

673
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 2: Can I ask you one more thing about I want

674
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 2: to go back to the returning thing just for a second,

675
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 2: and I had I'm looking at your bio because I

676
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 2: thought I remembered this, but I needed to look. So

677
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 2: you did play in the indoor Football League, in fact,

678
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 2: for the Frisco Fighters right.

679
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 3: In twenty twenty. But the first game of the season

680
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 3: that was finna happen COVID heady, So then they do yes.

681
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 3: So I never played a down any indoor.

682
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 2: Lead, but you practiced before it. So this is why

683
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 2: I'm asking because I did arena football for.

684
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 3: A few years and I loved it. It's not the

685
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 3: same game.

686
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 2: But the kick returners and people didn't realize this if

687
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: you haven't watched indoor football. There's a net and your job.

688
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 2: They're gonna kick it into the net and your job

689
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 2: is to catch it coming off the net. Now, everybody,

690
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 2: stay with me for a minute. You're the kick returner.

691
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 2: You're facing the field. They now kick off back over

692
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 2: your head and the net is behind you, and you

693
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 2: have to do what. Turn your back to everybody so

694
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 2: you can catch the ball off the net and then

695
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 2: turn around and go, yes, how the hell do you

696
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: do that?

697
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 3: Like I said, you know the crazy name. My little brother,

698
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 3: my blood little brother. He played with the frisk one

699
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 3: Fighters last year, so he was doing it. And when

700
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 3: I've seen it when I want to ear experience, but

701
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 3: it looked like it was hard. But it's I don't

702
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 3: know how them guys do that. You know, gotta turn

703
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 3: your back, then turn it back around, then stow back

704
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 3: running Like by the time you do that, the guys

705
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 3: already ten yards in front of you. So it's I

706
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 3: don't know why they even got that rule. I think

707
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 3: it should be out of bounds, to be honest.

708
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 4: So you also, I mean, it's just as it's just

709
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 4: like you not being able to see and run.

710
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 3: It, but I'm not my back my back dot turned,

711
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 3: so I can see him a little bit, a little bit.

712
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 4: What have you seen from other guys in this room

713
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 4: as far as Jayalen Tolbert in the way that he's

714
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 4: grown over the.

715
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 3: Years, I feel much, say, man J T Man like

716
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 3: he's one of those guys just you know, he don't eat,

717
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 3: like like I said, I don't talk much. He don't

718
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 3: even talk much. You know, he's like one of those

719
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 3: guys like you said, leave by example. You know, he's

720
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 3: not gonna talk too much, but when he needs to talk,

721
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 3: he gonna speak up. But it's just like, no, see,

722
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 3: we came in together just seeing how how he has grown.

723
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 3: Now they he's you know, Roberts ever two, Robins ever

724
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 3: three is unbelievable man, because you know he's he's going

725
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 3: out there making players whenever he's whenever they get thrown

726
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 3: his way, he's making plays. And I'm just you know,

727
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 3: truly heavy for him to see the way that he's grown,

728
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 3: the way in the player that he's becoming.

729
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 2: Because you came in together, you know him better than

730
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 2: a lot of other guys do. How have you seen?

731
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 2: The best I can do is tell by what I

732
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,720
Speaker 2: see on the field, how he runs routes. He looks confident,

733
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: he looks in command, looks like there's nothing that he

734
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 2: can't do. And he was much more tentative. Y'all's rookie

735
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 2: year and that's not the case. But how do you

736
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 2: knowing him see the growing confidence Besides just what folks see.

737
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 3: On the field. I just say, man going to the

738
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 3: training to count, you know, he he's stuck beside Be

739
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 3: Cooked like they was like real life brothers, you know,

740
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 3: and they I feel like they helped him. You know,

741
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 3: they helped him gain that confidence. You know, Be Cooks.

742
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 3: He's one of those guys. He's in a great encouragement

743
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 3: motivation speaker or however you want to put it, like

744
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 3: he's he'll put something in your head that you make

745
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 3: you want to run through a wall. That's how he cooks.

746
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 3: Just like what does he said, Bru Like he just

747
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 3: he just say like spiritual stuff that you know that

748
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 3: make you want to run through a wall. That's just

749
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 3: like the person that be Cooks he is, no you know,

750
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 3: just seeing like JT and know him just connect during

751
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 3: this you know, doing training count and I feel like

752
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 3: they gave JT no boost stuff confident.

753
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 2: So it's less what Cooks says than it is how

754
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 2: he says.

755
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 3: It's just how he says. You know, it's spiritual. It's

756
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 3: just like that, you know, deacky like it's a wonderful

757
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 3: like speaker and be cook Sis too and just you know,

758
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: because he always bring God into its so he tho

759
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 3: I say, he make you want to run through a wall.

760
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 2: Life for real, speaking of spiritual there's a little bit

761
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: of a reach, but I'm gonna contend not much. Yeah,

762
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 2: you're a daddy.

763
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, two kids, how old? One years old? Both?

764
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 2: Uh, that will change your perspective on life.

765
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 3: But yeah change. Yeah, changed the way of thanking pretty much,

766
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 3: the way that you when you want to go outdoors

767
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 3: pretty much. How you know, man, you know two years

768
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 3: from now I was, you know, I was a supported guy.

769
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 3: I'm not afraid to see it. And now I used

770
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 3: to love to be outside, you know, just have fun.

771
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 3: You know when Sericeince my kids caught kids got here

772
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 3: and it's just all they've been out the window, man,

773
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 3: just you know, just trying to do anything that they

774
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 3: just make them keep a smile on they face, make

775
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 3: sure don't know I'm always in their life, even though

776
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 3: even though with the football still I'm always busy, but

777
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 3: I'm always there for them.

778
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 4: Does a mindset change when it comes to football for

779
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 4: you too, with your daughters?

780
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I know I'm doing this for them pretty much. No,

781
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 3: you know, I was doing it for my mom and

782
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 3: all that, and now they change. Now I'm doing it

783
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 3: for my kids and it's this way more.

784
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 2: Does the sense of responsibility change you?

785
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 3: Pretty much? That I said? I said, like they're going

786
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 3: out stuff, like they'd even out the window. Now it's

787
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 3: pretty much. That's pretty much what I was trying to say.

788
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: All right, something to think about. Will take a break

789
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 2: and be back. We've got much more to talk about

790
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 2: with our special guests Cavante Turpin. Tonight on the Cowboys

791
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 2: Hour at Sidecars Social and Frisco. We'll be right back.

792
00:41:11,840 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 5: Cow Cowboys, No cowblaws, don't cowblows.

793
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Speaker 1: Tis for the Miller Lite Cowboys Hour, supported by Albertson

794
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: and broadcasting live from Sidecars Social at the Star Infra Sco.

795
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 2: Welcome back Brad Sham with Nicole Hutchinson and our very

796
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: special guests with Vision Like an Owl for of Hote,

797
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 2: Turpin and Well Nicole and I will be back here

798
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 2: next Monday, and then I should mention, although I have

799
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 2: not talked to the powers that be, but I'm presuming,

800
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 2: and we know what danger that leads to that when

801
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 2: the Cowboys are playing a Monday night game, we will

802
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 2: not be here on Monday night, but we will be

803
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 2: here on Tuesday night. How about that? Two of those?

804
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 2: I got one right? Everybody mark the time, six forty

805
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 2: four central. I got one right, So that we have

806
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 2: there are two of those coming up. So Nicole and

807
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 2: I will be here next Monday night and then the

808
00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: following week on Tuesday night. After the Monday Night get

809
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: with the Houston Texans. All right, questions from the audience,

810
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 2: please up, We gotta turn that hold on.

811
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 6: Come on, all right, good evening, Cavante, good end.

812
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 3: My name is Rambo. I still meeting Rambo.

813
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 6: So since you did not come up the typical conventional

814
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 6: way into the NFL, do you focus your time on

815
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 6: players that may be trying to make it into the

816
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 6: league like in the indoor leagues? Do you go over

817
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 6: there pep talk them and tell them, hey, hey guys,

818
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 6: you guys got a chance.

819
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 3: You just gotta hustle. Uh yeah, pretty much. I go, uh,

820
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 3: you know, the XFL in the USFL. You know, I

821
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 3: paid in the USFL, you know, before I got to

822
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 3: the NFL. So the USFL is like one of my

823
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 3: greatest accontioments I did in my life.

824
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 6: You know.

825
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 3: Just there's one of the things that I did coming

826
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 3: to the NFL. So I try to go back to

827
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 3: the XFL. You know, get them guys, encourage me and

828
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 3: tell them that you know, you're gonna get a shot.

829
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 3: You know in offseason NFL team they gonna come up.

830
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 3: They don't give you a shot in the training count.

831
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 3: So I tell them to stay with him and stay

832
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 3: humble and just you know, keep God further, to keep

833
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 3: faith in yourself.

834
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 2: Man.

835
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 3: Just you know, I always gonna work at the end.

836
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: You didn't just play in the USFL. You were the

837
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 2: m v P of the USFL. Uh And we were

838
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 2: just talking during the break because Nicole and I are

839
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 2: still a god that could have played as well as

840
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 2: he did for several years without being able to see

841
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 2: like you can see now. So you how were you

842
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,240
Speaker 2: the MVP of the USFL and you couldn't see.

843
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 3: I just feel like I was. I was, I was

844
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 3: up to speed. You know I was. I was like,

845
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 3: I felt like I was just way more better. Know

846
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 3: I like, I told those guys you know coming too,

847
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 3: you know their training account, you know, doing doing USFL.

848
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 3: I told them that they gonna see something they never

849
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 3: seen before. You know, I just had my mindset. You

850
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 3: know that, you know, this is pretty much is gonna

851
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 3: be my last shot that I had, you know, to

852
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 3: make it to the NFL. So I had that mindset

853
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 3: that I'm gonna go out here and destroy these guys.

854
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 4: So you said that to the guy.

855
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I told those that like in the in the

856
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 3: like in the mesday, you know, all the teams that like,

857
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 3: I told them, like everybody that came up to me,

858
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 3: different teams. I told him, like, y'all go see something

859
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 3: y'all never seen before.

860
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 2: So this is something that I think there's some young

861
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 2: people can benefit from how you approached it, because, as

862
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: you just said yourself, uh, that was probably your last chance.

863
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 2: I mean, your travelogue after you left school included the

864
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 2: leagues that people never heard of, the U Fan Controlled

865
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 2: Football League, played for the Glacier Boys. Where was that

866
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: in Atlanta?

867
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 3: Is that Atlanta? It was doing a Kobe year and

868
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 3: doing it had US in a bubble. You know, the

869
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 3: Glacier Boys. Was the rapper named with the Migos. Yeah, no,

870
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 3: that was his team, and uh you know he basically

871
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 3: like a video like a like a phone video game. Okay,

872
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 3: so it was it was a great experience. I couldn't

873
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 3: do nothing in the twenty twenty in the bubble, so

874
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 3: I really just trying to get some family, just stay active.

875
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 2: And then you played before that in the spring the Spring.

876
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 3: League, Spring League.

877
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, with the Sea Lions, Sea Lions. Yeah, you have

878
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 2: any gear from these I.

879
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 3: Still have my jerseys. I still I took my jersey

880
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 3: from all the leagues. Yeah.

881
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, in my game room.

882
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

883
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 2: And then you were with the you were in the

884
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 2: European League. Yeah, I went to europe Poland was it Poland? Yeah,

885
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 2: the Panthers. So this is your journey. You've done all

886
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 2: of these things. You've gotten to the USFL, you've been

887
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 2: the m v P and you know, because you're the

888
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 2: only one that lived that that I don't know how

889
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: many more of these chances I'm going to get. But

890
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 2: somewhere within you you're able to say to all these

891
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 2: NFL teams who are looking at you while you're in

892
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,439
Speaker 2: the USFL. You all fiction and see something you've ever seen?

893
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 2: How do we get from how do we get from

894
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 2: that travelogue? How do we get from the from the

895
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 2: Panthers in Roe clav poland to that kind of confidence.

896
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 3: Because I went to roll Clack, you know, I was

897
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,919
Speaker 3: you know, those guys you know in the European League,

898
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 3: they really don't know the basics of American football, you know,

899
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 3: just like the steps and stuff like that. So I

900
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 3: pretty much I say, I went over there as a teacher,

901
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,439
Speaker 3: you know, and they kind of helped my mind set,

902
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 3: you know, my confidence. Uh, you know, the tea stores

903
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 3: got the basis of the American football. So when I

904
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 3: came back to the States and uh when the uh

905
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 3: New Jersey Generals select me as the number one, you know,

906
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 3: the first receiver off the board, you know, they they

907
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,919
Speaker 3: just changed my mindset. Like you know, I was twenty

908
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 3: six at the time. I was like, you know, I

909
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 3: you know, I missed it with three four years in

910
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 3: the league that I was supposed to be there. So

911
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 3: I feel like that was my last crawl for the

912
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 3: you know. For then I knew the NFL team is

913
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 3: gonna be watching, and I knew there was my last Crows,

914
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 3: you know, you know, show them, to show them that

915
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 3: what I can do.

916
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 2: Okay, more questions from the audience, please.

917
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,240
Speaker 7: McKinney, sir, I'm not sure if you you follow stats

918
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 7: are not but I did a comparison and with Deone

919
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 7: Sanders you are one point one yards more averaging on

920
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 7: kickoff I'm sorry punt returns. Are you focusing on something

921
00:49:59,719 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 7: like that.

922
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 3: Or are you just playing the game pretty much?

923
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like you better than I think it's what

924
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 2: he's trying to ask.

925
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 3: I'm better than anybody. There you go, I'm better than

926
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 3: anybody if you want to you want to put it

927
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 3: like that. But at the the only time, yes, see,

928
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 3: I look at those but it's not a big thing.

929
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 3: I just try to you know, I just try to know.

930
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 3: I'm trying to break records, you know, like Dion record. Yeah,

931
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 3: you know I'm better than him. I will say that

932
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 3: I'm better than Deon Sam. But the same time, y'all,

933
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 3: I would like just you know, you can see, Yeah,

934
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to know. I'm just trying to always

935
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 3: trying to leave the league and puk return or kick

936
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 3: off return, you know, no matter you know who's there,

937
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 3: Dion can be in the generation right now. Any want

938
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 3: to even make affect?

939
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 4: Have you always been this confident? Like growing up? Have

940
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 4: you always been like this?

941
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 3: Yeah? I pretty much say like I was dis confidence,

942
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 3: but I wasn't cocky, you know I was. I was

943
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 3: pretty much humble with him. But I knew I had

944
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 3: the confidence and I knew I do. I knew I

945
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 3: wasn't like really much vocal. So I try to leave

946
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 3: by Exama and show the guys that you know, I

947
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 3: leave by zem but y'all just goy, just follow behind me.

948
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 2: We hear a lot all over the league about the

949
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 2: respect that your special teams coordinator John Fossil commands. And

950
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 2: he had to answer questions about the fake punt today

951
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 2: and he always very stand up. But I'm really interested

952
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 2: in his reputation is so solid and so far flung.

953
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 2: What kind of a difference in you as a football

954
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 2: player has Bones made?

955
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 3: Man? I say, forget the football stuff. It's just he

956
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 3: made me a better person, you know, just bones, just

957
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 3: like just like Man Bones. He's one of those genuine

958
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 3: guys just outside of football.

959
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 5: You know.

960
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 3: He had text you know, tell you Man watching Sunday

961
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 3: night football You're like, like, Sunday night, fo, I'm watching.

962
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 2: Sunday and I'm cooking.

963
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 3: I'm fishing some cookies. You want to come in and

964
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 3: watch it with the family. That's the stuff. Bone dude, like,

965
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 3: he is very genuine. I go down and meet his girls,

966
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 3: meet his wife, and they're just so wonderful. Man, the Bone,

967
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 3: he's just outside of football, he just wonderful person. That's wonderful.

968
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 4: He's also the coach that discovered you coming out of

969
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,720
Speaker 4: the USFL. So what does it mean to have someone

970
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 4: like that that's seems so much potentially you?

971
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 3: I just say, man, Bone man, just like I tell

972
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 3: him every day you come in, man like, you know,

973
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 3: I'm I got the most respect for him, you know,

974
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 3: just believing in me and just coming here just trying to,

975
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 3: you know, change and change this franchise and the special

976
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 3: teams for it. You know, I always tell him, I'm

977
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 3: very graceful for him just giving me the opportunity to

978
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 3: know that most guys didn't want to give me.

979
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 2: From a technique standpoint, has he done anything to uh

980
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 2: refine you as a returner, whether it's how you catch

981
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 2: the ball, what your steps are, Has he done anything

982
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 2: like that?

983
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 3: Uh No, not really. He just he just really does

984
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 3: because he know it. Like he's he's he don't try

985
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 3: to tell me what to run or how to run.

986
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 3: He really just try to make the blocking, you know,

987
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 3: for the guys easy for me to for them for like,

988
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 3: because I tell them always like the guys that's blocking

989
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 3: for me, you know, just take the guards where they

990
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 3: want to go, you know, don't make it hard on yourself.

991
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 3: You know, we got our right return and the guy

992
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 3: got the liverage, you know where I'm going. Just push

993
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 3: him out and I'll just make you right. So bone

994
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 3: would try to keep our guys, you know, just keep

995
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 3: their mindset then like gonna make you all right, just

996
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 3: go out there and just play, you know, just and

997
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 3: that that's what that's why our special team is so

998
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 3: dangerous because you know, all the egos out the way

999
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 3: and they got it edybody just trying to go out

1000
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 3: there and just make a big player at all times.

1001
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 4: For you, how much pressure is it? I mean, I

1002
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 4: know you said that every time you get the ball,

1003
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 4: you're trying to go score for sure, for sure, but

1004
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 4: for you also though, just knowing that you still if

1005
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 4: you don't score, you have to create an opportunity for

1006
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 4: this offensive offense as far as giving them short field,

1007
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 4: how much pressure is that for you?

1008
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 3: I feel like, yeah, I feel like it's not no

1009
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 3: pressure because my mind sat when I get the ball,

1010
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 3: if I score, if if I if I'm trying to

1011
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 3: score it and not get a and I don't score,

1012
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 3: I know gonna be a big return. So I feel

1013
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 3: like they're gonna put our offense in a great position

1014
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 3: that we are ready was in. So I just try

1015
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 3: to go out there, you know, just you know, if

1016
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 3: if I get loose more than like twenty yards twenty

1017
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 3: yard d durn, I know for sure I got the

1018
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 3: offense in a good position.

1019
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 2: Did did you ever when you started? How old were

1020
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:07,240
Speaker 2: you started playing football?

1021
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 3: Like five years old? Like five? But I was playing

1022
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 3: with the bigger guys and I was playing like seven

1023
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 3: year olds.

1024
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 2: So I don't know how to tell you this, But

1025
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 2: you're still playing with the bigger guys. Yeah, but it's

1026
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 2: a much different way. But that's kind of where I

1027
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 2: was going. I mean, was there ever a time that

1028
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 2: someone said you too little to be doing this?

1029
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 5: Oh?

1030
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got that, you know, coming out of high school,

1031
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 3: you know, trying to get recruited, you know. You know,

1032
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 3: I went to a couple of Otabama's counts, a couple

1033
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 3: LSU accounts. You know, I you know, I know I

1034
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 3: did my thing get them. But you know, my size

1035
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 3: no high school, I probably like one thirty. You know,

1036
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 3: I probably like five seven one thirty. You know, I

1037
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 3: was pretty much tiny, you know, compared to like you know,

1038
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 3: et C C ball. You know, so you know, they

1039
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 3: they know they kept my mind set just to keep going.

1040
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 3: You know, you know, I know I had the harder.

1041
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 3: I knew I could play this game, so I just

1042
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 3: you know, uh the playoffs, you know, going to my

1043
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 3: high school high school year this year, you know, I

1044
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 3: scored sixteen tons downs in the post in the postseason.

1045
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 3: You know, I won a championship. So I dedicated that

1046
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 3: that postseason my last year in high school, you know,

1047
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 3: to get an offer, to get a big POWERFI offer.

1048
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 5: You know.

1049
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 3: Somehow that TCU offer came, you know, and I was

1050
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 3: so grateful for it.

1051
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 4: So what do you say to the doubters who pretty

1052
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 4: much doubted you your whole life?

1053
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 7: Oh?

1054
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,959
Speaker 3: You know, you know, like like like like a couple

1055
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 3: of guys like I had a recruiter that you know

1056
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,240
Speaker 3: I used to. He used to take me into these counts,

1057
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 3: you know. You know, he came to me like cover,

1058
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 3: like a couple weeks ago and told me that Nick

1059
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 3: Saban told me that he uh, he fed up about

1060
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 3: you know.

1061
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 2: Tell Nick Saban felt like he made a mistake and

1062
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 2: not recruit.

1063
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, not offering me pretty much. Now. He came and

1064
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:44,879
Speaker 3: told me that a couple of weeks ago.

1065
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 2: Wow, do you remember where you were in school or

1066
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 2: how old you were when you thought, okay that this

1067
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 2: is as big as I'm gonna be. But it doesn't matter.

1068
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,240
Speaker 2: I can do things that other people can't.

1069
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 3: I knew that a boy by my sophomore year high school.

1070
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 3: You know, I knew. I knew for sure I wasn't

1071
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 3: growing no more. I knew for show it. But at

1072
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 3: that I mean, at that point, I rid of just

1073
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 3: trying to know gain weight, you know, Wait on, I

1074
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 3: knew if sure I wasn't you know, getting in a

1075
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 3: taller probably like an inch or two, but trying to

1076
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 3: get a night little wait on me because coaches kept

1077
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 3: telling me I was just too small or something like that.

1078
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 3: So I was trying to give him another reason to

1079
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:24,879
Speaker 3: tell me that. You know, I couldn't play this game,

1080
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 3: so there's the don't pretty much when the one of

1081
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 3: the main focus I was.

1082
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 2: On, guess what he can play the game, Cavan Urp,

1083
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 2: Thank you man, that's brilliant God having me and uh

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Speaker 2: Urp will be actually looking up and seeing the ball

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Speaker 2: Sunday against the Philadelphia Eagles. Thanks for being whether so.

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Speaker 2: Nicole and I will be back right here at side

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Speaker 2: card Social and Frisco next Monday night on our next

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Speaker 2: Cowboy Out.

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