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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome to this TGIF edition of Just the

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Speaker 1: News No Noise. I'm your host, Samandah Head my co host,

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Speaker 1: and Just the News editor in chief John Solomon.

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Speaker 2: He's out on assignment tonight. All right, everybody.

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Speaker 1: The Russia Gate news has exploded in recent days as

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Speaker 1: newly declassified documents put the FBI and the Clinton campaign

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Speaker 1: right at the center of everything, as well as billionaire

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Speaker 1: George Soros. The classified Clinton Plan intelligence, according to the documents,

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Speaker 1: intercepted communications from someone linked to George Soros that reportedly

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Speaker 1: suggested the FBI would quote put more oil into the

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Speaker 1: fire regarding the Clinton campaign's Russia collusion narrative. So long

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Speaker 1: story short, we already knew that the intelligence community, including

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Speaker 1: the FBI, knew that the Russian collusion narrative was created

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Speaker 1: by the Clinton campaign, And now we know that the

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Speaker 1: Clinton campaign was relying on the FBI to add credibility

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Speaker 1: to their story. And it looks like the FBI, under

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Speaker 1: President Obama, decided to do just that. They were more

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Speaker 1: than happy to carry her water. So current CIA Director

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Speaker 1: John Ratcliffe has stated that, quote what the intelligence shows

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Speaker 1: is that part of this was a Hillary Clinton plan,

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Speaker 1: but part of it was an FBI plan to be

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Speaker 1: an accelerant to that fake Steele dossier, to those fake

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Speaker 1: Russia collusion claims, by pouring oil on the fire, by

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Speaker 1: amplifying the lie and burying the truth of what Hillary Clinton.

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Speaker 3: Was up to.

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Speaker 1: So it's almost like the Clinton campaign was treating the

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Speaker 1: FBI like they treat the mainstream media, putting a narrative

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Speaker 1: out there and then allowing the media to amplify it. It

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Speaker 1: worked in almost exactly the same way. It's amazing to see.

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Speaker 1: But the CIA doesn't get a pass either. So remember

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Speaker 1: it was former CIA director John Brennan who described in

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Speaker 1: his own notes during a meeting with President Obama that

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Speaker 1: intelligence showed approval by Hillary Clinton to villify Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: by stirring up a scandal and claiming Russian interference in

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Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen election. So he knew all of that,

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Speaker 1: but still said this after President Trump took office.

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Speaker 4: We're stark and even a little bit scary in your

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Speaker 4: criticism of his behavior. You said it rose to Teresa.

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Speaker 5: So it was nothing short of treasoness.

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Speaker 4: In this current controversy, that specific comment has been singled

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Speaker 4: out by a number of people as a comment that

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Speaker 4: maybe by you crossed the line that was maybe in.

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Speaker 2: Westwing line, Well, was it freedom of speech?

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Speaker 4: No, I'm not saying that you don't have a right

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Speaker 4: to say it, But do you stand by that consideration?

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Speaker 4: And can you explain can you elaborate what you mean

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Speaker 4: by treeson this? It's a very serious allegation.

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Speaker 6: I know what the Russians did in interfering in the election.

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Speaker 3: I have a one hundred percent confidence in what they did.

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Speaker 1: In normal speech, we call that doubling down. In millennial speak,

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Speaker 1: we call it waiting through the ratio. He just he knew,

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Speaker 1: he knew the whole time. But anyway, now Brennan is

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Speaker 1: basically calling the Russigate investigation a witch hunt filled with

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Speaker 1: partisan politics.

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Speaker 2: Check it out.

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Speaker 6: It's clear that there is a vindictiveness, a punitive nature

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Speaker 6: to what he's trying to do with these policies and

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Speaker 6: with these actions. But quite frankly, I'm not going to

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Speaker 6: be intimidated because they're going to be pushing things out

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Speaker 6: there that are false, and they're maintaining this false narrative

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Speaker 6: about what the intelligence community did. And I like to

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Speaker 6: stand up for the intelligence professionals. And that's why it's

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Speaker 6: really quite unfortunate that a former director of CIA and

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Speaker 6: with the current directors of the man and women of

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Speaker 6: the intelli's community who do such tremendous work to try

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Speaker 6: that partisan politics has now seeped into the highest levels

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Speaker 1: So, of course, now that the investigation is pointing straight

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Speaker 1: towards Brennan, he thinks that the intelligence community has their size,

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Speaker 1: even though all of the evidence that we have been

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Speaker 1: politicized already when going against President Trump back during his

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Speaker 1: first term. So I think that our first guest is

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Speaker 1: going to have a little bit to say about all

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Speaker 1: of this and how it could have ended up happening.

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Speaker 1: But before we get to that, just wanted to get

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Speaker 1: you out quickly to Allentown, Pennsylvania, where moments ago President

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Speaker 1: Trump landed in route to Bedminster, New Jersey. So if

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Speaker 1: let's go ahead and get to our first guests, and

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Speaker 1: then I joining me now retired FBI Executive assistant Director

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Speaker 1: and the author of the book Wanted the FBI, I

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Speaker 1: once knew Chris Piota, Chris, great to have you here,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for being here.

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Speaker 7: Hello Amanda, Thanks for the opportunity to visit with you

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Speaker 7: and your audience.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely so, I know that you know what's going on.

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Speaker 1: I know you've read the what has now been declassified,

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Speaker 1: and you heard my big long monologue at the top.

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Speaker 2: This has to make your blood boil.

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Speaker 1: As someone who who worked in that agency and served

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Speaker 1: absolutely infuriate you.

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Speaker 5: Well, it was.

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Speaker 7: It was highly disappointing, and it was it was disturbing

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Speaker 7: to see how certain high ranking members of the FBI

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Speaker 7: and other government agencies allowed their own personal political preferences

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Speaker 7: and ideological beliefs to I guess you could say poison

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Speaker 7: the processes and practices that were in place. And looking

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Speaker 7: over the the you know, information that was made public,

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Speaker 7: I just think there are many questions that still have

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Speaker 7: to be asked about FBI practice protocol and how how

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Speaker 7: those documents were found.

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Speaker 5: And one last question I would ask.

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Speaker 7: Very clearly, how many unique documents were found in those

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Speaker 7: and Department of Justice systems of record.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean still more questions than answers. It

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Speaker 1: seems like maybe maybe we're getting more though. So you've

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Speaker 1: Open Foundation, Leonard Bernard, and then you have this Clinton advisor,

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Speaker 1: Julianne Smith, and they are communicating. So this is now

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Speaker 1: implicating a lot of other people. It's not just Hillary Clinton.

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Speaker 1: It's not just Christopher Steele and everybody over at usion GPS.

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Speaker 1: It's not just James Comey and James Clapper and John

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Speaker 1: Brennan and Loretta Lynch and I mean, honestly, I could

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Speaker 1: rattle off thirty different names. But now we're starting to

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Speaker 1: bring in even people like George Soros. The George Soros

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Speaker 1: factor is interesting though, because he almost seems to have

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Speaker 7: He Well, he is a recognized globalist, he has certain

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Speaker 7: ideological beliefs, and he has a lot of money and resource,

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Speaker 7: and that buys you access. And unless we can shore

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Speaker 7: agencies are operating in accordance with their assigned missions. Eventually

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Speaker 7: he's going to get a little more influenced than he

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Speaker 7: deserves or should have no doubt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, as I look at all this, it is very clear,

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Speaker 1: as you were saying at the top, that there were

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Speaker 1: people within the FBI who were willing to lay down

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Speaker 1: their duty to their country and uphold their allegiance to

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Speaker 1: a political party instead. Is the FBI in the habit

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Speaker 1: of or have they ever in the past. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: necessarily think they're in the habit of it, but have

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Speaker 1: they ever in the past been in the habit of

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Speaker 1: furthering intelligence that they knew was created by a political campaign?

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Speaker 1: Because those involved in this at the FBI and the CIA,

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Speaker 1: they knew, they knew that this originated with Hillary Clinton, Right.

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Speaker 7: No, that's a recent phenomenon.

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Speaker 5: Again per formed by people who were.

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Speaker 7: Unable to navigate the political and social environments. The FBI

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Speaker 7: always dealt with objectivity and facts and investigative rigor, and

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Speaker 7: that's SEMs to have dropped off in the last several

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Speaker 7: willing to lean in a certain direction, have an expected outcome,

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Speaker 7: and then investigate to support their expected outcome, and I

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Speaker 7: think that's a fatal error for an organization like the FBI.

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Speaker 2: Chris, are there too many FBI agents?

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Speaker 7: Some would think so, but I'll tell you this much,

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Speaker 7: in the current threat and environment, there aren't enough FBI agents.

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Speaker 7: There are approximately twelve to thirteen thousand I think on

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Speaker 7: don't understand that New York Police Department has been I

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Speaker 7: think almost forty thousand officers for the five boroughs of

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Speaker 7: New York and the FBI has thirteen thousand agents to

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Speaker 7: cover the entire world. So I think it depends on

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Speaker 7: how you define the mission scope of the FBI and

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Speaker 7: what level of engagement you want the FBI to have.

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Speaker 7: But I think right now they are undermanned and under

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Speaker 1: That face Then so if we don't need to downsize

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Speaker 1: the FBI, I suppose that there are replacements in order.

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Speaker 1: If you had to estimate what percentage of agents who

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Speaker 1: that under Christopher Ray it was kind of centralized at

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Speaker 1: the top, but it obviously has infected the entire agency.

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Speaker 1: What percentage of the agents who have just kind of flown.

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Speaker 2: Under the radar.

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Speaker 1: They've been in the FBI since other administrations, they themselves

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Speaker 1: have become politicized. What percentage of that body do you

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Speaker 7: Just taking a guess of people that I know and

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Speaker 7: that those that small percentage of people did occupy a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I want to ask you about your perspective

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Speaker 1: of what is currently happening at the FBI. There is

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Speaker 1: no doubt in my mind from knowing Cash Baitel personally,

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Speaker 1: that he is a patriot, that he loves this country,

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Speaker 1: that he wants to bring the FBI back to the

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Speaker 1: maybe even going in the wrong decision or the wrong direction.

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Speaker 1: If you were sitting down with cash or excuse me

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Speaker 1: a Director Patel, and you said, Hey, I think that

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Speaker 2: Do you have steps for him?

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Speaker 5: I can offer him my perception of what's going on.

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Speaker 7: I think that the FBI, when left to its devices,

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Speaker 7: with good leadership, can do with some of the great

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Speaker 7: things it's doing now. If I was to offer any

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Speaker 7: opinion to Director Patel, he is a strategic leader in

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Speaker 7: that organization. He has to focus on the culture of

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Speaker 7: has to focus on a leadership environment of how they're

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Speaker 7: he has to focus on the operational practices, not the policies.

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Speaker 7: He has to say, Okay, this is what things are

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Speaker 5: And it's not only what are we doing, but what

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Speaker 7: Those are the things I think him as a director

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Speaker 7: within his intent. Those are the things I would ask

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Speaker 7: It's easy to do that because that's great stuff, but

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Speaker 7: he has a different.

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Speaker 5: Role to play.

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Speaker 2: Sure. I think that's really good wisdom.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think the director Comy held a more liberal

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's unfortunate to see.

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Speaker 1: And typically the deputy FBI director is a former agent

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Speaker 2: As far as progress that's happening.

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Speaker 7: I think a lot of people want to see faster

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Speaker 7: he intends well, but not knowing how the organization works

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Speaker 5: So I know he's been on a very steep learning curve.

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Speaker 7: But I think the two of them together have common

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Speaker 7: But the deputy director should be seen as the operations

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Speaker 7: know if mister Bongino has enough knowledge or insight yet

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it certainly seems like the situation is that

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Speaker 1: taking off. So but you know, you can tell from

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Speaker 1: Dan Bongino's social media posts that what he has been

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Speaker 1: pure corruption.

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Speaker 2: So I guess we'll find out or at some point.

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Speaker 1: Chris Pioder retired FBI Direct Executive Assistant Director and the

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Speaker 1: author of the book Wanted the FBI I Once Knew,

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Speaker 1: an excellent read.

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Speaker 2: Everybody go check it out. Chris, thanks for being here, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, everybody, After the break, Senator Marsha Blackburn is going

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