1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Forty one Action News dig steeper and gets the answers 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: about what happens to Adrian. Jump Investigator Jessica McMaster now 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: uncovered exclusive evidence. He was just a typical little boy, 4 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: just full of life. Adrian's dad and step mom abused 5 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 1: him for months. He just had the most amazing smile. 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: His whole face smiled when he smiled never before seeing. 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: Video takes us inside Adrian's last moment, and you can 8 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: see the look of nothing in his eyes. This is 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: Carme Stories with Nancy Grace and what prosecutors call the 10 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: most heinous crime they've ever seen. As soon as I 11 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: opened eye cloud, I saw pictures of Adrian and his abuse. 12 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: So you eat out of the trash? Could you keep 13 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: on getting cold? Could youre outside? In this video you 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: can hear heather and harsh words towards Adrian and a 15 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: lack of compassion for a desperate little boy. The last 16 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: days and hours of Adrian's life spent stripped and confined 17 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: to a shower stall, left outside overnight to stand in 18 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: a filthy pool. The boy who was fed two pigs, 19 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: The boy who was fed two pigs. You know, when 20 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: I was in law school, I went to law school, 21 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: specifically to become a felony prosecutor. I thought I had 22 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: seen the worst of the worst, but I never thought 23 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: I would put those words into one sentence, the boy 24 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: who was fed to pigs, And it reminds me of 25 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: the first time I guess it was a rape or 26 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: a rape slash murder case I prosecuted, and the words 27 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: the defendant had used at the time of the incident, 28 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: the crime words I had never said out loud before ever, 29 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: Such horrible, horrible curse words, just horrible slurs on women, 30 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: just awful using the lord's name in vain. And I 31 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: remember in my opening statement standing up in front of 32 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: the jury and letting it fly, the F word, the 33 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: C word, the P word. The only thing I got 34 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: hung up on was like, could not say the lord's 35 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: name in vain. But you know what's bad about that 36 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: was then the second time I had to say it 37 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: kind of rolled off my tongue. Then the third time, 38 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: in the fourth time, and at the end of ten years, 39 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: you know, I was numb to it until I, you know, 40 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: had the twins and I didn't want them to hear 41 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: that kind of language. But these words here, the boy 42 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: that was fed to pigs. It's still tastes bad in 43 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: my mouth to say it. I Nancy Grace, this is 44 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: Crime Stories, and with me today is an incredible guest. 45 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: Our guest is Kansas City reporter Jessica McMaster with k 46 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 1: s h BE Channel forty one, and awesome reporter who, 47 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: like many of us, has had to wade through the 48 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: muck every day, hopefully wearing hit boots so you don't 49 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: bring it home and get it on your living room, 50 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: so on your sofa or your carpet. She is the 51 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: reporter who did this incredible three part series of this 52 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: little Boy his last months on Earth and her investigation 53 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: of an apparent de Facts Department Family Children's Services cover up. 54 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: And because of Jessica McMaster's hard work, we learn the 55 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: state legislator later is considering Adrian's Law to change how 56 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: defects works. In response to Jessica McMasters reporting, Jessica, I'm 57 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,839 Speaker 1: so happy to meet you, even though it's only over 58 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: the airwaves and under horrible conditions. One day I'd like 59 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: to meet you and sit down and have a cup 60 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: of tea with you. Thank you for being with us. Likewise, 61 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: thank you, Nancy. It's good to good to be able 62 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: to talk with you. I'm just a little overwhelmed at 63 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: the incredible change that you are bringing about in this world, 64 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: which is so woefully in need of change. I want 65 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: to talk to you about this little boy. Tell me 66 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: about your investigation of Adrian Jones. This goes back to 67 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: November two thousand fifteen. I was actually pregnant, very pregnant 68 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: with my daughter when we got news that came over 69 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: the scanners that police had gone out to a home 70 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: in Kansas City, Kansas and found a child's remains. I 71 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: remember that day. We're just, you know, reporter mode. You're 72 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: just you're getting all the information you can, You're trying 73 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: to learn more. At that time, we didn't have any 74 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: idea who this person was, who this little boy was, 75 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: and what he had lived through. But then slowly we 76 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: started to learn that he had been abused by his 77 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: father and stepmother and that eventually he was killed by 78 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: them and his lifeless body was tossed in a livestock pen. 79 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you something, Jessica. People that have 80 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: not been on farms don't get it, and nor should they. 81 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: But when you say you are a pig, if you 82 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: have ever been around pigs. No offense to our piggy friends, 83 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: but they are disgusting and they are sometimes huge, they 84 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: will eat anything, and a lot of times on farms 85 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: they have them living in muck, like in mud. Kind 86 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: of it's horrible. I mean for people. The pigs apparently 87 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: love it, but for people. And I'm looking at this picture, 88 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,799 Speaker 1: one picture specifically, and he has on a little white 89 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: hat and he as smiling this beautiful smile. That's my 90 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 1: favorite picture of him. And it's a soccer T shirt. 91 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: And he's so beautiful in this photo. If you told 92 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: me he was a girl, I would believe it. He 93 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: has the most beautiful little features. Now, when my son 94 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: was a baby, Jessica, I thought he's just beautiful. I 95 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: thought he and Lucy were equally beautiful, like a little seriously, 96 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: a little angel. This little guy looks much like that. 97 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: A beautiful little nose, a gorgeous little bow for a mouth. 98 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: His eyebrows are just perfectly like someone painted him on. 99 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: And not that all children are beautiful, this just gets 100 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: just beautiful. It's just having a hard time, fink. He's 101 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: easy to fall in love with that. Someone fed this 102 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: kid pigs, put him in a pig Stye, what happened? 103 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: Why would they do this? Jessica, I don't think that 104 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: will ever know, And that's honestly. I think it's the 105 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: hardest part for us, and it's really been the hardest 106 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: part for our viewers because you give him this information 107 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: and a normal everyday person tries to rationalize it. You 108 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: try to make sense of it because you need an answer. 109 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: You need to be able to rectify this, but you can't. 110 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: There's no good reason for it. You know, there's he 111 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: was the only boy you know, but you there's just 112 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: there's really no way of knowing how anyone or why 113 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: anyone would do anything like this. I wish we could 114 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: give people that answer. I wish I had that answer 115 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: so that I could sleep. I don't know if this 116 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: happens to you, but I wish I could forget this. 117 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: I wish I could erase this in my mind. I 118 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: wish I never knew about it. But the thing is, 119 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: now I do know about it, and I asked myself 120 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: every single day, what am I going to do about it? Now? 121 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: I know? Right, here's the problem. Instead of whining about 122 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: it and crying about it, What am I going to 123 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: do about it? That's what I need to know right now, Jessica. 124 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: I'm overwhelmed at how you dug into the story. So 125 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: you go out on a story and for all you 126 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: all you know essentially is that his remains were found. 127 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: You go out there and you find what do you discover? 128 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: I want to hear how your investigation unfold. This has 129 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,679 Speaker 1: been something that I've been working on, like I said, 130 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: for about a year and a half. And what you 131 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: just start collecting little pieces of information. You have former 132 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: babysitters telling you that they witnessed him having to stand 133 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: for long periods of time with his hands in the air, 134 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: and it made them uncomfortable and they thought that it 135 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: was too extreme. And then they say, you know that 136 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: they called Child's Services because they were concerned. One babysitter 137 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: tells me that she was there when child Services visited 138 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: the home, you know, So then you talk to her. 139 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: And then I got in touch with Adrian's grandmother, Judy Conway, 140 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: and I had been talking with her off and on. 141 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: And I also talked to the woman who owned the 142 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: home that the Jones has lived in, and she was 143 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: a key person in getting us the information that we 144 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: really needed because the Joneses had surveillance cameras in every 145 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: room of the house. They watched Adrian's every move and 146 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: aside from that, they also documented his abuse. For whatever reason, 147 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: they would just it was like they were proud of 148 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: what they were doing to him, and Heather uploaded it 149 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: to her eye cloud account. Grandmother starts telling me that 150 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: there's video of this, and she has it, and there's photos, 151 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 1: and that's not something we got from her right away. 152 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: Mike was supposed to go to trial, but he ended 153 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: up pleading a week before that occurred, so they didn't 154 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: really want to talk until that had happened. Once Mike 155 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: decided that he was going to plead um, they came 156 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: to me and said, you know, I have this information. 157 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about it. So we 158 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: went in and we sat down with grandma and the homeowner, 159 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 1: and then as some time passed, they decided that it 160 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: would be important to share those photos and videos with us. 161 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: And then, you know, we put a lot of thought 162 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: into what we were going to share with our viewers, 163 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: and it was a lot. It was a really tough 164 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: decision because you didn't you knew how traumatic it was 165 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: for us to see it and how devastating it was 166 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: too to see images of Adrian with handcuffs on and 167 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: left outside, for him to have to stand overnight in 168 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: a filthy pool that the family would use, and he 169 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: wasn't fed, and just horrific, horrific stuff that you can't 170 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: even make up in your wildest nightmares. And so that's 171 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: how it really all unfolded. And when you were watching 172 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: these videos, we just found out exactly what they did 173 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: to him. And then we also discovered that there was 174 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: another adult living in the home, because you can see 175 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: him in the video and you can see Adrian hiding 176 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: from that adult. So there was all this information, and 177 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: then we of course have been trying to get his 178 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: records from Kansas Department of Children and Families ever since 179 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: he died. You know, in the state of Kansas, there's 180 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: a law that states, you know, after a child's death 181 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: or you know, a near fatality, that information becomes a 182 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: matter of public record. So but we what we found 183 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: is that information is rarely being released. These children who 184 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: are abused and nearly killed or killed just kind of 185 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: wind up in a file and their stories are never told, 186 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: and there's really no accountability for this public agency. You 187 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: know it's I have been screaming this with me, is 188 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 1: Jessica McMasters incredible reporter. I have been screaming about de 189 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:50,599 Speaker 1: Facts Department, Family Children's Services, uh CPS, Child Protective Services. 190 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: There are different names across the country. They held accountable 191 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: for dropping the ball and not doing their job and 192 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: chill ldren dying. Jessica make Masters telling me that Defects 193 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: was in the home and they let the child stay 194 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: there until the child is killed and fed to pigs. 195 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: I don't like saying it, but this is the truth. 196 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: And what is going to happen to those DEFECTS workers. 197 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: They just go right along, fat, dumb and happy like 198 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: nothing happened. That is not okay. It's not okay. Your 199 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: report blows the lid off of it. You know. I 200 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: have been yelling about this for since when I went 201 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 1: on the air at Court TV. I don't know why 202 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: no one wants to hold them responsible. This child is 203 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: dead because of the parents, the father and the stepmother, 204 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: and because Defects look the other way. Why did they 205 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: leave him in the home, Jessica, I wish we knew, 206 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: but we still don't. We don't have the file. You know, 207 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: that's one of the things that we need. That's one 208 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: of the things that Adrian's grandmother really needs. I mean, 209 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: she'll tell you there's there's no closure, there's no fixing 210 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: what happened to her grandson, but to know exactly how 211 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: many calls were placed, you know, so you know, a 212 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: judge sealed the file. But there's various reasons why these 213 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: We found that these files aren't being released because we 214 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: put in a generic request for Since the law was enacted, 215 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: how many media outlets have put in a request for 216 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: cases like Adrian And of fifteen requests we've found two, 217 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: only two have ever been fulfilled. So despite the law, 218 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: what is the number we can call? What is a 219 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: website we can go to to let our voices be heard? 220 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: This is a horrific discovery. Police called to a home 221 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: in Kansas City, Kansas for a domestic dispute. Wow. Can 222 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: you imagine that When they get there, a woman tells 223 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: them if they look around, they'll find the remains of 224 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: a little child. Officers find a seven year old little 225 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: boy remains in a pig pen. He lived at the 226 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: home with six brothers and sisters, his father and stepmother, 227 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: Heather Jones, and the community really didn't know much about 228 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: the children because the parents had kept them away under 229 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: the disguise the pretense that they were being home schooled. Well, 230 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: Jessica McMasters didn't take it at face value, and she 231 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: continued to dig. This story made headlines all around the world. 232 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: What's amazing is that not only would they abuse the child, 233 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: they would take pictures in video of what they were doing. 234 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: That that's amazing. As soon as cops opened up and 235 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: eye cloud, they find pictures of the abuse. It's awful 236 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: and it was right there House of horrors, as Jessica 237 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: was just saying, cameras in every room. They monitored the boys, 238 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: every move they documented as his health deteriorated, like they 239 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: were proud of what they were doing to them. How 240 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: is this effect of the other children? And where are they? 241 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: The other children right now are in foster care. Grandma 242 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: does have some contact with them, and I think that 243 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: they're going to therapy and and doing the best they can. 244 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: But I don't know how you can see this because 245 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: there is evidence that they witnessed Adrian's abuse and be 246 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: the same. I'm not the same hearing about it, so 247 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: living under that roof, I just can't imagine what that 248 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: must be like to try and cope with that and 249 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: move on from that and make sense of what mom 250 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: and dad did. There are pictures of him looking gaunt 251 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: and malnourished. In one video, you see someone crack open 252 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: the little boy's face with a broomstick. Outside surveillance shows 253 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: and I haven't even been able to bring myself to 254 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: watch it. The little boy's hands and feet handcuffed, and 255 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: he's forced to stay outside, and he's looking around like 256 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: he knows he's being watched, and he tries to use 257 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: his mouth to pick up what looks like a bowl 258 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: and eat what was in it. The stepmother comes out, 259 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: starts lecturing him and telling the other children, Adrian's eating 260 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: a bowl of apple sauce that has bugs and dirt 261 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: in it. Why are you doing that? It just goes 262 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: on and on. I just can't even look at it. 263 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: I can't even look at it anymore. Tell me about 264 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: the bill, Tell me what Kansas is going to do 265 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: to change this. Very early so, the day after our 266 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: three part series aired, uh, I went to the our 267 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 1: state's capital and I just started talking to any and 268 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: every lawmaker I could find, and many of them actually 269 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 1: were very receptive with the issues with our story, the 270 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: issue of not being able to get their records. The 271 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: part that they really responded to was that other adults 272 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: seemed to maybe have known about what was happening to Adrian, 273 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: and yet we still all know how this ended. And 274 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: so they were really responsive to the fact that there 275 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: was another adult living in the home. And so one 276 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: state representative said, I'm going to introduce a bill tomorrow 277 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: that says, if you're an adult living in a home 278 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: where a child is being abused, you are required to 279 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: report that abuse and you can be held criminally responsible 280 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: because right now, you know, there's the Mandatory Reporter law, 281 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: which includes professionals, you know, teachers, doctors, nurses, people like that, 282 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: but it doesn't include any other adults or any other 283 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: family member other than mom and dad. So so that's 284 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: the first step. They are listening to the issues with DCF, 285 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: with not being able to get those records released, and 286 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: I know that there's a state senator who's looking into that, 287 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: and she has the research department looking into that. Because, 288 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: as you know, they got to do their research because 289 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: they wanted to pass and they got to figure out 290 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: how to write up the bill. And how to introduce it. 291 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 1: So we haven't gotten there quite yet with that portion, 292 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: but that's the goal. The first step is just who's 293 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: in the home. I don't think it's that far fetched 294 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: because teachers and educators are under a deity to report abuse, 295 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: and you stand by and let a child be abused 296 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: this way. I I had to close down the story. 297 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: It was hurting me so much to look at that 298 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: picture of him out being forced in the water, to 299 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: stand out in the water overnight with his head poking 300 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 1: up above the water, and they would take pictures of it. 301 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 1: I usually don't say this, but I'm glad he's in 302 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,719 Speaker 1: heaven now because it's better than where he was. A 303 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: lot of people are saying that. And since law enforcement 304 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 1: didn't know what was happening and de facts did nothing 305 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 1: to save the boy, had the rest of his life 306 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: would have been like this until he would be tortured 307 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: for how many more years and then die. So I 308 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: would rather just die now than be tortured for a 309 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: couple of more years and then die, Rather go on 310 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: to My Holy Father than than stay and what his 311 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: life was. I just don't understand how Defects dropped the ball, 312 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: why they didn't take him out of the home. But 313 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 1: you know what I learned, Jessica, I was about five 314 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: years into it. You've taught me a lot. Maybe I 315 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: can teach you something I learned the hard way. Five 316 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: years into prosecuting an inner city Atlanta, and I would 317 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: torture myself about why, why, why why? And finally I 318 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: said why, ask why? Why? Ask why? Stop asking why? 319 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: Because I'm never gonna know why people do the horrible 320 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: things they do. I'll never understand it, and I'll just 321 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: torture myself trying to fee gure it out. But what 322 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: I can do is change it or try to change it, 323 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: which is what you are doing. You have to because 324 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 1: you're right. Otherwise you're just left being tormented. Jessica. Please 325 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,719 Speaker 1: tell our listeners where they can find your reporting, and 326 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: it's fairly easy if you just go to k S HB. 327 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: That's k S is in sam h B as in 328 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 1: boy dot com. If you scroll down the page and 329 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: click on the investigator's tab, you'll find our series under 330 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: there with the rest of our investigations, and the stories 331 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: are all linked to each other. As my father always said, 332 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: believe you me, I will be calling that number. I 333 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: will be hitting that website because I do not want 334 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: this beautiful boy's death to be in vain. And hopefully 335 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: the Kansas legislature will get off their rear ends and 336 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: do something and I will leave it at that. And 337 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: we actually have those links in the story to our 338 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 1: how you can contact our kinds legislatures, legislators. There are 339 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: the links are writing the story there, Jessica McMasters, thank 340 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: you for being with us. Nancy Grace Crime Stories, signing off, 341 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: goodbye friend,