Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal. I'm that for me. I'm
Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,
Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy
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Speaker 1: Dan and Tye.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Cliburba, boys and girls. My name
Speaker 2: is ty Hildebrand, joining me as always a fine gentleman.
Speaker 2: My friend, my colleague, my co host is many years
Speaker 2: over there in New York City. His name is Dan Rubinstein. Sir,
Speaker 2: how are you, Ty?
Speaker 1: I'm wonderful. I am. I actually, even with not a
Speaker 1: ton of sleep, I had a very good day yesterday
Speaker 1: as a human being. And yesterday's full slate, full schedule,
Speaker 1: full jam packed, picnic basket of action was it was
Speaker 1: rejuvenating to me. Yeah, some way. I really enjoyed my
Speaker 1: day yesterday. Yeah. Absolutely. You know what it felt like, Ty,
Speaker 1: I thought about this last night as it was all
Speaker 1: happening and Michigan was losing. In Oklahoma I had already lost,
Speaker 1: and Florida LSU came down to the wire and there
Speaker 1: was just there was action all over the place, some
Speaker 1: of it chaotic, some of it chaotic, Excuse me, some
Speaker 1: of it fun. It was like the night before the
Speaker 1: mcallisters left. Yeah, exactly home alone, exactly fuller was pee
Speaker 1: in the bed, there was milk spilled on the pizza.
Speaker 1: Uncle Frank is yelling at people. It was it was.
Speaker 1: What I loved was that when the tarantula got out.
Speaker 1: I don't know if the transla got out that night,
Speaker 1: but it may have. Yeah, the jar may have tipped over,
Speaker 1: the terrarium might have opened up something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, close games all throughout the day. A
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Speaker 2: through here in our week six review, Dan, I did
Speaker 2: see that out on Instagram.
Speaker 1: You you had a visitor. I did have a visitor.
Speaker 1: Did you happen to catch that? I did? Mister Adam
Speaker 1: amean How is he? Adam is great? So he pulls
Speaker 1: double duty. He does a Thursday or Friday game I
Speaker 1: think generally just Fridays now late night for ESPN. Hebviously
Speaker 1: called the Wazoo USC upset a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: But he also on Sundays does ESPN Radio and is
Speaker 1: in town for the New York Football Giants. I think
Speaker 1: they're playing the Chargers. Yeah, I don't know. He came
Speaker 1: by the studio to watch late games because he's in
Speaker 1: town and he acknowledged that beefy is the word beefy
Speaker 1: to use in any and all scenarios. And he could
Speaker 1: not be a nicer human being and is just through
Speaker 1: and through Verballer.
Speaker 2: Did we talk to him about our potential securities fraud
Speaker 2: that we had conjured up? No, we did not. Damn
Speaker 2: I got to break that to him slowly. Well, let's
Speaker 2: get started where we always do. Here on the solid
Speaker 2: verbal four waight verbal one, the reverb line. Our boy
Speaker 2: Taylor is back from parts unknown. Yes, here are your calls.
Speaker 3: This is Jeff in Chicago. I just watched Iowa State
Speaker 3: and Joel Lanning feed Oklahoma, and all I can say
Speaker 3: is whoa, whoa, whoa, there's a dude alert.
Speaker 1: This is Adam Scott calling from down Onto. This is
Speaker 1: Tela from Tabby Allen, Georgia.
Speaker 2: Hi, this is Rob from West Virginia.
Speaker 3: Hey, it's Richard in Spain. Soonering term when you are
Speaker 3: highly ranked, predicted to roll at home and you borrow
Speaker 3: it to the home over the side, Clones goes.
Speaker 1: We think through the planes, ioways say gets the job
Speaker 1: done in the Big twelve is in chalk.
Speaker 3: Thanks to the juic Hill houses.
Speaker 1: Alan Lazards cyclone cyclone, cyclone.
Speaker 3: Oi Oi Oi. Don't look now, but it looks like
Speaker 3: Kenny Hill is a dude and being a Mountaineer fan.
Speaker 1: The second years off My Life.
Speaker 3: Texas is definitely the Sadoku square that you keep erasing
Speaker 3: and writing a different number because you can't quite figure
Speaker 3: out what they are.
Speaker 1: Miss Kelly, a k State fan in Austin, Texas.
Speaker 3: I like Texas better when they were getting beaten by
Speaker 3: the other Kansas Alabama.
Speaker 2: You are the single cruelest team in college football. You
Speaker 2: had to get A and M hope and then just
Speaker 2: snatch it away from them. Sure do you hope?
Speaker 3: The rebellious land shark bear of all missed.
Speaker 1: Don't let the back door cover hit him on the
Speaker 1: way out or Legal and Vandy just got mad. So
Speaker 1: I'll be the first to fledge five dollars in a
Speaker 1: used Domino's gift card to the buyout of Brett Bielama.
Speaker 2: I am susche five and one in c State wolf Back,
Speaker 2: straight Up.
Speaker 1: Boom Doogging, Lamar, Jackson and Louisville.
Speaker 3: I was riding over to the State Louisville game listening
Speaker 3: to the preview show and heard Time talking about how
Speaker 3: Louisville was going to beat the Pack by like two
Speaker 3: hundred some points.
Speaker 1: Don't think so, brother.
Speaker 3: Do we have a secret decent Virginia situation on our hands?
Speaker 2: Neer?
Speaker 3: The play calling for North Carolina on its own one
Speaker 3: yard line was so bad it's making me rethink my
Speaker 3: own life choices. I don't care if it's raining sideways
Speaker 3: or in the monsoon. That fourteen to ten games so boring?
Speaker 3: I am dumber for having watched it?
Speaker 1: Is Michigan secret garbage? Is it too early to say that.
Speaker 2: Morten Schluger sounds like something that in my college years
Speaker 2: I would have taken a shut of at the Chaillgate.
Speaker 3: And I don't think you can put into any better
Speaker 3: words where Nebraska's program is at.
Speaker 1: Then when an entire bar.
Speaker 3: Full of their fans see ten or Lee throw out
Speaker 3: the pass and every one of them screams, oh no,
Speaker 3: you can't just roll your book down the Wabash River
Speaker 3: and think you can beat Indiana's once your team, the
Speaker 3: Purdue Boilermakers.
Speaker 1: Is it just me? Or is ESPN a little butter
Speaker 1: about this whole late kick pack? Twelve things?
Speaker 3: Did you ever notice that Mike Peach looks like a
Speaker 3: blirted Teete Carroll.
Speaker 1: It made me feel better.
Speaker 3: Go down. Can we talk for one second about the
Speaker 3: name of Stamford's face kicker, jet Toner got to be
Speaker 3: the best name in college football.
Speaker 2: Bring out that old silver eye upon it, and we'll
Speaker 2: open up another teke of peer more beer.
Speaker 1: Because we all came to college, but we didn't govern.
Speaker 3: There. We'll go out and undefeated in conference place.
Speaker 2: There you have it, a oh Man, nice little rendition.
Speaker 2: There a lively batch of week six calls. Thank you
Speaker 2: to everyone who dialed in. I heard Adam Scott from
Speaker 2: down Under. I'm wondering if we've got a listener in
Speaker 2: the professional golf ranks, Dan never know.
Speaker 1: Is Adam Scott Australian or South African? No, He's Australian.
Speaker 1: Are you sure? I am dead positive.
Speaker 2: Okay, that sounded like an authentic Australian accent there.
Speaker 1: That's true. Adam Scott is Australian. I defer to you.
Speaker 1: So where do we want to start here?
Speaker 2: I've I've got many thoughts on what we experienced in
Speaker 2: week six?
Speaker 1: What was Let's start here. There were a couple upsets.
Speaker 2: There were a couple games that I think caused us
Speaker 2: to raise our collective eyebrows. What was the most shocking
Speaker 2: thing that you saw in Week six?
Speaker 1: Probably Iowa Stay with a third string quarterback and a
Speaker 1: linebacker slash quarterback going on the road as thirty point
Speaker 1: dogs and beating a top three team. Let's start there,
Speaker 1: shall we. I think that's pretty large. And also that
Speaker 1: conference had at least one crazy overtime game in Texa
Speaker 1: Kansas State, and a huge game in TCU West Virginia.
Speaker 1: So yeah, let's respect the Southwest. Let's respect the Southwest.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about Iowa State thirty eight, Oklahoma thirty one.
Speaker 2: The Clones Dan. They fought back. They were down early,
Speaker 2: fourteen to nil, and then they chipped away. They chipped away.
Speaker 2: They tied it at.
Speaker 1: Twenty four all late in the third quarter.
Speaker 2: They went ahead early in the quarter and sealed the
Speaker 2: deal on a twenty five yard pass from third string
Speaker 2: quarterback Kyle Kempt to give Iowa State a seven point win.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question, just just answer. If
Speaker 1: you know. I don't know.
Speaker 2: If you do, let me tell you something. T I've
Speaker 2: got that answer for you. Who caught that touchdown pass?
Speaker 1: That'd be your all, your your very own Duke, Duke
Speaker 1: of Hazzard, Alan Lizard.
Speaker 2: I saw you tweeted that out, Duke of Hazzard, Alan Lazard.
Speaker 2: Give it credit words due? Yeah, Does it mean that
Speaker 2: you're now on board with the nickname you tweeted it out?
Speaker 2: Not me?
Speaker 1: Right, No, that's one hundred percent true. I think so.
Speaker 1: I haven't given his nickname any more thoughts since we
Speaker 1: originally did our twelve preview because you tried to pooh
Speaker 1: pooh it. You tried. I don't think it, Ty, I
Speaker 1: don't think. I think it's a loveless marriage between me
Speaker 1: and this nickname. We're I'm in it because it's you know,
Speaker 1: we're paying a mortgage, we've got kids, and we both
Speaker 1: like the same order from the tie place. But that's
Speaker 1: th h you.
Speaker 2: Can you can justify it however you want. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: you got it. My nicknames are inception level catchy.
Speaker 1: Okay, m hmm.
Speaker 2: It's next to you on the plane, it's invading your dreams.
Speaker 2: It's urging you to break up your father's company. That's
Speaker 2: what I do, Dan, I come up.
Speaker 1: With stuff like that. It's the cholera of nicknames. That's right,
Speaker 1: thank you.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Anyway, let's give a shout out since it is
Speaker 2: obviously very due. We talked about the Duke of Hazzard
Speaker 2: Allen Lazard, but let's give our dude alert to Joel Lanning.
Speaker 1: Last year he played quarterback.
Speaker 2: You mentioned this briefly here in our little run through,
Speaker 2: but played quarterback last year for Iowa State. In the offseason,
Speaker 2: he converts to linebacker. In this game, he pulled the
Speaker 2: Sunshine Ronnie Bass and played both ways. Eight tackles, a
Speaker 2: sack at a fumble recovery on defense, and then sixty
Speaker 2: total yards on offense as well. What's interesting to me
Speaker 2: about this game. This is not a question of Oklahoma's
Speaker 2: offense doing anything to shoot itself in the foot. The
Speaker 2: offense always comes to play the.
Speaker 1: Players anyway, the play calling.
Speaker 2: Perhaps frankly, this was Oklahoma's defense dropping the ball. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because Iowa State played very well in the trenches. They
Speaker 2: moved the ball pretty consistently against Oklahoma's defense. Their defense,
Speaker 2: the Sooners did not come to play in this one.
Speaker 2: That's what ultimately felled them.
Speaker 1: I would say even more than just sort of coming
Speaker 1: to play and being pretty good, I would stay it
Speaker 1: averaged I think somewhere in the neighborhood of like fourteen
Speaker 1: or fifteen yards per pass attempt. They went straight at
Speaker 1: Oklahoma and they did not revise the game plan at all.
Speaker 1: Without Jacob Park this was Kyle Kempt looking into the
Speaker 1: teeth or gums of the Oklahoma defense and throwing into it,
Speaker 1: spreading the ball around. David Montgomery had a great all
Speaker 1: purpose day. Trevor Ryan was good. You know, the duke
Speaker 1: of Lazard, Alan Lazard. It still hurts me to say
Speaker 1: it had the huge catch at the end. But this
Speaker 1: was an Iowa State team that was not at all
Speaker 1: phased by a quarterback change and played. I mean, what
Speaker 1: did they outscore Oklahoma? I'm seeing twenty five to seven
Speaker 1: in the second half. That's a hell of an efforts. Hi,
Speaker 1: that's a well coached team. They've got the most. It's
Speaker 1: so fun to see that. That's all I'm saying. Oklahoma
Speaker 1: I think will be fine. But it was. It was
Speaker 1: high entertainment and just the TV that I thought it
Speaker 1: was going to be at the beginning of the season.
Speaker 2: We really did drop the ball though, for not noticing
Speaker 2: that the Red River shootout is on deck and we
Speaker 2: could have totally played up the look ahead angle that
Speaker 2: could have been like our one shining moment here.
Speaker 1: In the week six.
Speaker 2: But from that fortuna of the Stuart Mandel led All
Speaker 2: American venture, that's how I prefer to the All American venture,
Speaker 2: the All American venture, that's how I prefer to reference it.
Speaker 2: This is now the seventh straight year that Oklahoma has
Speaker 2: lost a game in which it was a double digit favorite.
Speaker 1: Not good, not good. Somebody I saw what did I say?
Speaker 1: I saw?
Speaker 2: Little game Lincoln? Yeah, I mean so mean, and we
Speaker 2: do not adhere to it. Good win for Iowa State
Speaker 2: on the road. Nice win for Matt Campbell to build upon.
Speaker 2: And we'll see what Oklahoma does next week. I look
Speaker 2: forward to overreacting and taking Texas straight up. But we've
Speaker 2: got a few more dates before we before we come
Speaker 2: to that conclusion. While we are talking Big twelve, let's
Speaker 2: talk about why that Oklahoma result was so significant. There
Speaker 2: are all the obvious reasons, and then there's this one.
Speaker 2: TCU thirty one West Virginia twenty four, A big win
Speaker 2: for TCU in a very close game, back and forth
Speaker 2: down the stretch.
Speaker 1: It might be time. Is it time I go.
Speaker 2: Back and forth? Is it time to bring back the
Speaker 2: Kenny Trill nickname. No, this is a new this is
Speaker 2: ken Hill, Ken Hill version Ken Hill because he scored
Speaker 2: not once, not twice, but thrice, one throwing, when running,
Speaker 2: one receiving on that throwback pass in the fourth quarter
Speaker 2: which kind of gave him the lead. Did you know
Speaker 2: the second time that's ever happened in the history of
Speaker 2: the Big Twelve.
Speaker 1: I did not know that. But it's tight. It's October.
Speaker 1: This is it has to be a new ken Hill
Speaker 1: because he's not performing, he's not making plays in the
Speaker 1: same way that he did in only September, but it
Speaker 1: has bled into uh into October. We've had We've had
Speaker 1: novembert right. Yeah, somebody suggested Croctober, which slowly getting on
Speaker 1: ken Toberfest. Ken Toberfest. Yes, that too.
Speaker 2: No turnovers for TCU. Kenny Hill tried, Lord knows he
Speaker 2: tried in this game. It was not his cleanest effort
Speaker 2: in the world. But like we said on Wednesday, and
Speaker 2: it's important, it needs to be re emphasized that TCU
Speaker 2: was not beating itself right now, and when you've got
Speaker 2: big games against solid competition like West Virginia, that that
Speaker 2: stands for something. When you don't beat yourself. We'd also
Speaker 2: be remiss if we didn't at least show a little
Speaker 2: bit of love for our boy Billy Greer wild Yeah him,
Speaker 2: justin Crawford. David Sills, who decidedly is not a tight end.
Speaker 2: Like I said for whatever reason on the Wednesday Show,
Speaker 2: David Sills is a wide receiver. He now has nine
Speaker 2: touchdowns in five games. He caught two against TCU, and
Speaker 2: look the part, every bit the part.
Speaker 1: It just was not meant to be down the stretch.
Speaker 2: TCU got the job done on that fun play from
Speaker 2: Cavante turpin back across the field to ken Hill and
Speaker 2: they win by seven.
Speaker 1: I'd say, dicey OPI on that David Sills.
Speaker 2: Play a little bit Yeah, not terribly sure about that call,
Speaker 2: but yes you are correct and everything you say.
Speaker 1: And not a great all around performance from TCU. I
Speaker 1: think West Virginia scare them out of running the ball.
Speaker 1: They were blitzing a ton and TCU abandoned the run
Speaker 1: for big stretches in this game. Will Greer or excuse me,
Speaker 1: Billy greor Bell gre or whatever did a very good
Speaker 1: job escaping the grasp of a lot of TCU defenders
Speaker 1: up front. I was I was thoroughly impressed by a
Speaker 1: number of plays in this game, and TCU did enough
Speaker 1: to win, which is what we think pretty good teams
Speaker 1: should be able to do.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, they're not beating themselves, which again a very important point.
Speaker 2: They are now one of two undefeated teams in Big
Speaker 2: Twelve Conference play. The other is Texas, who won an
Speaker 2: overtime game. We'll get to that one in just a
Speaker 2: little bit here. I do want to shift to the
Speaker 2: nightcap though, where I believe Jody with an Eye was
Speaker 2: in attendance.
Speaker 1: Am I right? Oh? She was and not super happy,
Speaker 1: both with the result on the field and with losing
Speaker 1: her poncho right before the game. Oh no, yeah, ooh soaked.
Speaker 2: Is there anything more hopeless than having one of those
Speaker 2: clear plastic ponchos in the middle of a torrential downpour?
Speaker 2: Because they don't, would I would say not having by
Speaker 2: the looks of things.
Speaker 1: Yeah? Wow, what day for monsoon games? Yesterday?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: We had the Notre Dame UNC one mm hmm. We
Speaker 1: had Michigan Michigan State.
Speaker 2: We had the eighty eight minute rain delay in West
Speaker 2: Lafayette between Purdue and Minnesota. So yeah, the mother nature
Speaker 2: had something. It was working out on Saturday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Midwestern happiness.
Speaker 2: Michigan State fourteen Michigan ten. Another game that was very
Speaker 2: clearly not an offensive clinic to say the least. This
Speaker 2: was Big ten football. You had a lot of defense,
Speaker 2: you had the dicey weather. You had to kick it
Speaker 2: in the gougeon and the mud and the blood and
Speaker 2: the beer. That's what this one came down to. Michigan
Speaker 2: State now eight and two in their last ten games
Speaker 2: since Mike Hart referred to them as quote a little
Speaker 2: brother den.
Speaker 1: It feels like that's very old, but at the same
Speaker 1: time it feels very new and relevant. Never gets old.
Speaker 1: So Michigan fans are feeling some things today, and they're
Speaker 1: not totally wrong about disappointment with the offense and execution
Speaker 1: and inability to perhaps shift strategy when it starts raining
Speaker 1: cats and dogs. I just the idea of going into
Speaker 1: that game with whatever you were planning on, if you're
Speaker 1: Michigan's offensive coaching staff, seeing it rain a ton, seeing
Speaker 1: your team turn it over a bunch and start and
Speaker 1: stop pull running backs after they succeed a little bit,
Speaker 1: and thinking to yourself, what if we had John o'corn
Speaker 1: throw at thirty five. What if hear me out, now,
Speaker 1: hold on, what if we had John o'corn throw it
Speaker 1: nearly forty times, we've gotten into double digits. What if
Speaker 1: am I cry?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: So that wasn't great. That wasn't great. But a lot
Speaker 1: of credit to Michigan's State for locking down, taking advantage.
Speaker 1: They didn't score in the second half and still won.
Speaker 1: They held on late, you know, an unfortunate drop from
Speaker 1: I believe it was Eddie McDoom with a Michigan State
Speaker 1: dB doing the choking sign thing in the background. Michigan
Speaker 1: needs to take a good hard look at their offense.
Speaker 1: I don't think the expectations were huge for this Michigan
Speaker 1: offense coming into the year. But as soon as you
Speaker 1: get to the point where you're your four, oh, you're
Speaker 1: in a two October, then all of a sudden, you're
Speaker 1: just like, well, I guess we've got it all figured out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and game day with Johnny okay, Game day with John Okay.
Speaker 1: And turns out, sometimes succeeding against Purdue is not everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they turned it over five times at home at
Speaker 2: night in the rain against their in state rival. That's
Speaker 2: why Michigan State won. Michigan State for their part, by
Speaker 2: the way, was not exactly gangbusters on offense. They didn't
Speaker 2: turn it over, but they were just two of fourteen
Speaker 2: on third downs. They had under one hundred yards passing
Speaker 2: eleven penalties. Both teams are now in this weird gray
Speaker 2: area where they're four and one, and I question how
Speaker 2: good either of them actually are. Michigan still has Penn State,
Speaker 2: Wisconsin and Ohio State left. Michigan State has both Penn
Speaker 2: State and Ohio State. So we're going to find out
Speaker 2: here as the season progresses and just works itself out naturally,
Speaker 2: but very clearly offense for both of these schools is
Speaker 2: going to be an issue. We're going to have to hope.
Speaker 2: Somebody asked me on the Facebook live video that I
Speaker 2: did this morning, if you're a Michigan fan, what should
Speaker 2: be your new expectations? How should we revise these downwards?
Speaker 2: I don't know if you should revise them downwards per se.
Speaker 2: They shouldn't have been that high because your new offense
Speaker 2: is going to be an issue. But moving forward, I
Speaker 2: just think you want to see some progression on offense,
Speaker 2: whether it's John o'corner anybody else playing quarterback. I saw
Speaker 2: Wilton spate might have broken three vertebrates and.
Speaker 1: Be out for the year.
Speaker 2: Whoever is playing offense, you want to see some progression.
Speaker 2: That should be your new expectations. That's what you should
Speaker 2: shoot for at this point.
Speaker 1: Here's what I'm assuming after yesterday's Wisconsin game, Penn State game,
Speaker 1: Ohio State game. Here's what I'm assuming the maybe quieter
Speaker 1: or maybe louder sentiment is within the Big Ten office.
Speaker 1: I am assuming it goes somewhere along the lines of
Speaker 1: really hope Ohio State's good, Really hope Ohio State's actually good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, because Penn State for a half against Northwestern defensively,
Speaker 1: Penn State isn't a great place. You claim they're not
Speaker 1: super deep. You would know better than I. But they're
Speaker 1: led by their defense. Wisconsin's led by their defense and
Speaker 1: running game. But there's inconsistencies with both of those offenses. Now,
Speaker 1: you know, the Michigan offense has sort of come to
Speaker 1: pass to be inconsistent and disappointing that the Big Tens,
Speaker 1: at least right now, confidence or at least hope should
Speaker 1: be with Ohio State because I'm not fully sold on either.
Speaker 1: We'll we'll get to that. The penn State offense or Wisconsin.
Speaker 2: We'll get to that in a little bit here. I
Speaker 2: have many thoughts, many thoughts. I think let's go too excited,
Speaker 2: Let's go to Miami twenty four Florida State twenty. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna call this one a front door cover. I love
Speaker 2: that sound, I love the doorbell. I'm gonna play it
Speaker 2: even if it doesn't classify as a true front door cover.
Speaker 2: An offensive clinic. This one was also not Dan Nook.
Speaker 2: It took a while to get going here. Florida State
Speaker 2: led three to nothing at halftime. To give you some context,
Speaker 2: at one point in the first quarter, James Blackman airmailed
Speaker 2: to pass so badly it hit a police officer, one
Speaker 2: of those guys guarding the sidelines.
Speaker 1: Did you see that? Yep, indeed I did.
Speaker 2: It was that kind of offensive half, Dan. It didn't
Speaker 2: really get moving until the fourth quarter. That's when we
Speaker 2: started cooking with gas. A bunch of lead changes and
Speaker 2: impressive drive led by mister Blackman to give Florida State
Speaker 2: lead on a touchdown pass to Audentate and then Malik Rosier.
Speaker 2: Look did not have a great stat line nineteen of
Speaker 2: forty four passing, but he led Miami down the field.
Speaker 2: He had a very nice twenty three yard touchdown pass
Speaker 2: to Darren Langham was six seconds left. That is what
Speaker 2: gave Miami the win. This is one of those deals
Speaker 2: where you look at it and it's like one of
Speaker 2: those ink blot tests. Okay, you can take away from
Speaker 2: it whatever you see fit. I'm a positive guy, right,
Speaker 2: I'm an optimistic minded gentleman.
Speaker 1: Typically, i'd say so. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I came away impressed by both teams in this game.
Speaker 2: You can look at it and you can say, well,
Speaker 2: it very easily could have been a win for Florida State,
Speaker 2: and that's true, absolutely, But I thought both defenses were
Speaker 2: stout in this game. Both offenses had trouble but really
Speaker 2: rose to the occasion late. Neither one of these teams
Speaker 2: set the world on fire on offense, but the fact
Speaker 2: that their quarterbacks made big throws in crunch time, to
Speaker 2: me was that was impressive.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed watching that.
Speaker 2: So I came away very optimistically minded regarding both these teams.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be the line I'm gonna take. Okay, So,
Speaker 1: Florida State and offensive woes nothing really too new, and
Speaker 1: Miami is has a great defense and it's understandable. But
Speaker 1: Florida State did a good job and we talked about
Speaker 1: this on Wednesday. If there is a weakness to Miami's defense,
Speaker 1: it is sort of straight up the middle, stopping the run,
Speaker 1: going straight at the Miami does a number of creative things,
Speaker 1: but there have been times this season that, you know,
Speaker 1: you even look against Duke that they were giving up
Speaker 1: too much on the ground and Florida State, who has
Speaker 1: struggled to produce bigger plays with Acres and Patrick, were
Speaker 1: able to get things going and so that was at
Speaker 1: least promising to give James Blackman a little bit more room,
Speaker 1: but he still has a ways to go as a freshman.
Speaker 1: Malik Rosier, that first half was god awful, and you know,
Speaker 1: everybody's sort of day after, they've just accepted it as
Speaker 1: a win. And Miami is moving forward forward and their
Speaker 1: schedule is pretty reasonable in terms of the defense they face.
Speaker 1: Right I'm seeing Georgia Tech, Syracuse, North Carolina, Virginia Tech
Speaker 1: will be tough, Notre Dame will be tough. Even Virginia
Speaker 1: is going to be pretty good, and they finished with Pitt.
Speaker 1: But if Miami is in fact the division favorite, which
Speaker 1: is fine, They can't submit a first half like that
Speaker 1: against a team like Clemson. Absolutely not. So I'm a
Speaker 1: little bit worried about Miami's starting too slowly, but the
Speaker 1: fact that they finished in the way they did, the
Speaker 1: fact that Malik Rosier shook off all that sort of
Speaker 1: the cobwebby discussed of the first half in fine Braxton
Speaker 1: Barrios and I think it was Langham who caught the
Speaker 1: game winning pass. It was. It was an incredible game
Speaker 1: to watch at the end of the game. But I'm
Speaker 1: a little less optimistic about both of these teams just
Speaker 1: because of an inability to come out in a promising way.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll give you this, It does require a certain
Speaker 2: degree of willful ignorance to come out of this one
Speaker 2: feeling optimistic or more optimistic than you did when you
Speaker 2: went into it. Blackman, I do need to mention this again.
Speaker 2: He is truly either hot or cold. It is a
Speaker 2: binary switch with him hot cold, no ine between, like
Speaker 2: a freshman burning hot or ice cold, one or the other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, a man of extremes.
Speaker 2: And you're you're totally right about Miami. What worries me
Speaker 2: now is they play Virginia Tech and Notre Dame in November.
Speaker 2: Even Georgia Tech, who knows a team with a worse
Speaker 2: defense than Florida State but a notably better offense, is
Speaker 2: going to give them trouble.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I say.
Speaker 2: Mark Walton looked beat up. He did not look like
Speaker 2: him his full well and he got hurt again. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know he already had the left ankle. Now it's
Speaker 2: now it's something on the right side. They got depth
Speaker 2: at running back. They should be all right with Travis Holman.
Speaker 2: But even still, it's yeah, we'll have to wait and see.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I feel good though, positive, positive, mind it positive thoughts.
Speaker 2: LSU seventeen, Florida State sixteen. Dan oo rough, stop me
Speaker 2: if you've heard this one before.
Speaker 1: Oh God, be kind ty, be nice, be cool, not
Speaker 1: an offensive display. No, no, no, no, not much.
Speaker 2: Florida's Eddie Pinero missed an extra point and lo and
Speaker 2: behold it came back to haunt him.
Speaker 3: Dan.
Speaker 2: How did Richard Johnson, our boy, Richard Johnson, how did
Speaker 2: he feel about that?
Speaker 1: Not great? And Ryan Nanny was in the office too.
Speaker 1: Both were not super pumped. And it was not the
Speaker 1: kicker's fault. It was not Pinero's fault. It was a
Speaker 1: bad hold the ball and still spinning when he kicked it,
Speaker 1: So I will I will assign blame elsewhere. But what
Speaker 1: is good? And this will never be a fantasy things
Speaker 1: pick because it does not happen all that frequently. But
Speaker 1: there is only one thing that can be said after
Speaker 1: I missed extra point right, Gotta hope that doesn't come
Speaker 1: back to haunt him. Gotta hope, yeah, yeh tough way
Speaker 1: to lose. Not great. Let's look at let's look at
Speaker 1: this glass half faull tie playing at a pretty big
Speaker 1: disadvantage because of the players who are rightfully suspended and
Speaker 1: not with the team. Felipe Franks was not particularly good.
Speaker 1: He didn't turn the ball over. I don't believe he
Speaker 1: didn't throw any picks, so there's that. I don't think
Speaker 1: he lost any fumbles, so that's giving yourself an advantage.
Speaker 1: Florida goes down. I believe it was seventeen to three,
Speaker 1: and they immediately fight back and make it a game late.
Speaker 1: LSU just had a sound game plan. Danny Etling was fine.
Speaker 1: They were able to play with the edges, a lot
Speaker 1: of Jets sweeps and stuff. DJ Shark came up with
Speaker 1: the huge catch. It's it was a good reboot. That's
Speaker 1: the word we talked about for LSU moving forward. I
Speaker 1: think do they have Auburn this coming week? Yes, they do,
Speaker 1: so a good time to reboot.
Speaker 2: One thing that's interesting you mentioned the jet sweeps. I
Speaker 2: am going to reference Richard again here very quickly, but
Speaker 2: I saw he did a good job pointing something out.
Speaker 2: When Matt Canada came over to run the offense for
Speaker 2: LSU and the offseason. What was the first thing everyone
Speaker 2: said LS.
Speaker 1: Was going to do more of. They were going to
Speaker 1: open things up.
Speaker 2: They're going to open it up, but in particular, they're
Speaker 2: gonna do jet sweeps. A lot of jet sweeps.
Speaker 1: Right, He's going to play with the edges a lot
Speaker 1: more than just going straight at teams.
Speaker 2: Any offensive coordinator worth his salary is not calling jet
Speaker 2: sweeps willy nilly like you or I would if we
Speaker 2: were playing Madden. Granted they didn't work in Madden. That's
Speaker 2: that's a different conversation altogether. If you're worth your money,
Speaker 2: you're doing it to try and play into some tendency
Speaker 2: or some weakness that you see.
Speaker 1: Get get linebackers' eyes moving, to do right the things
Speaker 1: and I'm borrowing here from Richard Johnson again, you're your
Speaker 1: other co host, mm hmmm mm.
Speaker 2: But he wrote this up very very smartly in his
Speaker 2: game recap, and I'm gonna paraphrase, but basically, Florida's linebackers
Speaker 2: are young, and they had some issues setting that edge
Speaker 2: correctly this season, and that's why LSU tries to get
Speaker 2: a moving side to side. That's why you saw the Jets.
Speaker 1: And that's new for Florida linebackers. That's right. They are
Speaker 1: normally so much faster than just about everybody.
Speaker 2: But if you saw Jet sweeps, that's why you saw
Speaker 2: it because I've had some difficulty moving.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just thought that was an interesting point. As you mentioned,
Speaker 2: a much different LSU team. They played with much more
Speaker 2: conviction here, more creativity on defense. They didn't force Felipe
Speaker 2: Franks to turn the ball over per se, but they
Speaker 2: did sack them five times, and they just played it
Speaker 2: with a lot of intensity in the trenches. So I thought,
Speaker 2: moving forward, if you're an LSU fan, a good reboot.
Speaker 2: Reboot's a good way to phrase this one. Yeah, seventeen
Speaker 2: sixteen a nice road win. Let's stay in the SEC
Speaker 2: and let's talk about Alabama twenty seven Texas A and
Speaker 2: M nineteen Through about thirty five minutes of this game,
Speaker 2: Damn Bama led twenty four to three. Yes, and we
Speaker 2: got tweets, we got voice messages that the crock potting
Speaker 2: had commenced. But I believe what we had here instead
Speaker 2: was a hard boiled Texas A and M.
Speaker 1: Oh, poor aggies. Have you ever boiled an egg? I
Speaker 1: have all the time.
Speaker 2: You know how it works, right, You bring it to
Speaker 2: a quick boil and then you cool, You turn it
Speaker 2: off and you let it cool for ten minutes and
Speaker 2: then you're done.
Speaker 1: You got a peal after that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what happened in this game. The final score
Speaker 2: was twenty seven to nineteen. Despite the early Bama lead,
Speaker 2: A and M fought valiantly. Kellen Mond will continue to
Speaker 2: get better. Some untimely turnovers in this one came back
Speaker 2: to haunt Texas A and M. But still they cover
Speaker 2: the twenty six and a half point spread. It's fair
Speaker 2: to say that this game ended up being more of
Speaker 2: a tester than anyone thought. After thirty five minutes, when
Speaker 2: they were down by twenty one points. If you're A
Speaker 2: and M, I think you come away from this one
Speaker 2: positive minded. Hey, they fought, they didn't get blown out
Speaker 2: against Alabama. That's a weird little undersized feather that you
Speaker 2: can put in your cap.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough, though. It's tough when the season has
Speaker 1: been as specifically disappointing as it's been, with the way
Speaker 1: it started out against UCLA, not being able to distance
Speaker 1: themselves at all from clearly lesser competition. But the running
Speaker 1: game has gotten better. They had an exciting win over
Speaker 1: well Arkansas is another one of the lesser competition teams.
Speaker 1: But you can come away from this game with a
Speaker 1: couple of big things. One it is the fight from
Speaker 1: Texts A and M. It is the fact that Kellen
Speaker 1: Mond did a good job extending plays and I think
Speaker 1: took a step forward against an obviously excellent defense in
Speaker 1: completing passes. You know, when Tech A and M was
Speaker 1: not able to get anything going on the ground, Kellen
Speaker 1: Mond thing kept the drives moving. The other thing that
Speaker 1: I came away from this game, well, I guess it's
Speaker 1: in combination the TECHT A and M defense I thought
Speaker 1: did a very good job. After it was the long
Speaker 1: run from Damien Harris, and after things sort of settled down.
Speaker 1: Techa and M completely pushed Alabama around. And that is
Speaker 1: also aided by the fact that Jalen Hurts was wildly
Speaker 1: inconsistent on big moments on third downs especially, and he
Speaker 1: took a step back. So I am I am optimistic
Speaker 1: about Alabama, but I am I am upgrading texts A
Speaker 1: and M in my mind just because I really liked
Speaker 1: what I saw and I can expect them to continue improving.
Speaker 1: How about that? That sounds like a good pot. We're
Speaker 1: very positive minded here to beat yep here, that's us now.
Speaker 2: Also upbeat after this game was Nick Saban, who mentioned
Speaker 2: that the media's optimism regarding Alabama is like quote rat
Speaker 2: poison for his team.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so sorry. So there's that.
Speaker 2: Maybe we should maybe we should take a more negative
Speaker 2: slant on Alabama.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, let's really give them the motivation, give.
Speaker 2: Them the lousiness, right, yeah, all right. Georgia forty five
Speaker 2: Vandy fourteen. The Dogs rushed for four hundred and twenty
Speaker 2: three yards and shut Vandy down. They just got him down.
Speaker 2: Are we can we officially crown Jake from as Jake Superior?
Speaker 1: Now? Is that fair? Absolutely? Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Did you happen to see that. Georgia also signed another
Speaker 2: top flight.
Speaker 1: Quarterback named Jake Justin Fields.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Justin Fields is going to be on campus soon enough.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what the plan's gonna be.
Speaker 1: The wildfield the wildfield look, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Ormation possible backup better than the starter situation coming to Athens.
Speaker 1: And Justin Field isn't even a dual threat, so I
Speaker 1: don't think there's gonna be. He's much more of a
Speaker 1: pro style guy that fits with what they're trying to do.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Forty five fourteen Georgia is very very solid. Auburn forty
Speaker 2: four Ole Miss twenty three Auburn Dan has scored one
Speaker 2: hundred and forty four points in their first three SEC games.
Speaker 2: Through three SEC games, that is the most points they've
Speaker 2: ever scored in school history.
Speaker 1: Wow, okay, wow, really nice performance for Jared Stidham again,
Speaker 1: carry on, Johnson goes for over two hundred. It was efficient,
Speaker 1: it was fun. They put the game away I think
Speaker 1: by half. It was a thirty five to three at halftime.
Speaker 1: So everything that Ole Miss Scott late was just that
Speaker 1: it was against Auburn backups and Auburn right now is
Speaker 1: in a very nice place.
Speaker 2: Ty, Yeah, when I did, when I did the video,
Speaker 2: they got three straight road games. But yeah, when I
Speaker 2: did the video this morning, before breakfast, before coffee or
Speaker 2: any caffeine for that matter, somebody had asked me about
Speaker 2: the SEC, and is the SEC secretly garbage? No, I
Speaker 2: don't think it's secretly garbage. Perhaps it's a little bit
Speaker 2: more top heavy. It's not cooked the full way through
Speaker 2: the way we expected. But in so listing my top
Speaker 2: SEC teams, I forgot to list Auburn at number three,
Speaker 2: forgot them altogether.
Speaker 1: Why would you do that?
Speaker 2: Forgot to list them, just forgot about them. But Auburn's
Speaker 2: very good forty four to twenty three. It seems like
Speaker 2: they're starting to put things together, and it will certainly
Speaker 2: be interesting to now chart them through the second half
Speaker 2: of the college football season. The one thing I will
Speaker 2: add about this game, of course, Auburn wins throwaway season
Speaker 2: for old Miss. Right, what are we going to talk
Speaker 2: about with old Miss? Let's talk a little bit about
Speaker 2: Shaye Patterson and how he's been a bright spot because
Speaker 2: he's fourth nationally with three hundred and sixty one yards
Speaker 2: passing per game. He's got a higher completion percentage than
Speaker 2: the Rosen one. Josh Rosen, He's having a really good
Speaker 2: year despite the fact that Old Miss isn't necessarily a
Speaker 2: major talking point in the SEC.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of those yards came later on in
Speaker 1: the game, but he is a very early contender for
Speaker 1: in a losing effort of the year. Just overall that
Speaker 1: kind of thing, the manual sound thing, the manual one. Yes.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you a follow up question to your
Speaker 1: previous point, Yeah, if you had to on a scale
Speaker 1: from one to ten, one being Michigan message border, ten
Speaker 1: being Win Everett, who is the woman that appears in
Speaker 1: the SEC, it just means more commercials. How good is
Speaker 1: the SEC right now? Whose opinion? Wow? Well, I'm at
Speaker 1: like a six eight, seven to one ish somewhere in
Speaker 1: that range, which is fine. I would say I'm probably
Speaker 1: about six and a half. Impressibly top heavy, which very
Speaker 1: top towards a Michigan message border, very very top heavy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: leave it at that.
Speaker 2: South Carolina forty eight Arkansas twenty two. South Carolina scored
Speaker 2: three touchdowns on defense. Arkansas is now on the road
Speaker 2: next week against Alabama, then they come back home the
Speaker 2: next week to play Auburn. Brett Beelham might get fired.
Speaker 2: He might get fired after this year.
Speaker 1: Ten to twenty five in the SEC now something like that.
Speaker 1: Not a good record in the SEC. His buyout's too big.
Speaker 2: He should get fired that there's an argument for that,
Speaker 2: breaking from my optimistic self.
Speaker 1: He should get flaired. That's rough. Uh. South Carolina look
Speaker 1: like and I know you're gonna be shocked by this
Speaker 1: tie a will must Champa. Yes, they did generated a
Speaker 1: lot of points off of defense, which is what good
Speaker 1: fun teams do. And offensively they were fine. I don't
Speaker 1: think they've turned the ball over at all. So it
Speaker 1: was a totally good win from South Carolina. I do
Speaker 1: not mean to denigrate anything about it. South Carolina is fine.
Speaker 1: They're four and two. I think they're two and two
Speaker 1: in the SEC. Now moving forward, I'm not crazy optimistic,
Speaker 1: but it's sort of like, did you ever see the
Speaker 1: picture of like the collage of pictures of Brad Pitt
Speaker 1: with his various friends and wives where he like adopts
Speaker 1: the the look. Yeah, like he looked like Jennifer Aniston,
Speaker 1: he looked like Angelina Jolie. He looked like whoever that
Speaker 1: I mean, you go to you you go to will
Speaker 1: Mus's champ you're gonna start looking like Will must Y's right.
Speaker 1: South Carolina is a must champion team.
Speaker 2: And then finally Kentucky forty Missouri thirty four, Missouri now
Speaker 2: one in four they're at Georgia next week. Starting to
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Speaker 2: to the PAC twelve. Go to the late game. Dan
Speaker 2: Stanford twenty three Utah twenty. This game was one brand
Speaker 2: for both teams, wasn't.
Speaker 1: It very much?
Speaker 2: So? Yes, when we did the preview, Stanford was a
Speaker 2: six point favorite. Neither you nor I were buying that.
Speaker 2: We didn't think it was a six point game. Nobody
Speaker 2: else did either. Because the line came down to Stanford
Speaker 2: minus three by kickoff, the entire world knew this is
Speaker 2: going to be a low scoring close game, and Dan,
Speaker 2: stop me if you've heard this before. The Bryce Love
Speaker 2: was the headliner again.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, we have to like almost retire Bryce Love as
Speaker 1: a dude. And the way that TRL retired they like
Speaker 1: a video graveyard. Yeah, we might have to retire Bryce
Speaker 1: Love's duty, noess, just to get just.
Speaker 2: To get some other names in the rotation. It was
Speaker 2: not his most successful game from a statistical standpoint, and
Speaker 2: Utah did do a fairly decent enough job containing him
Speaker 2: for most of the game. Yeah, but then he breaks
Speaker 2: a sixty eight yard touchdown early in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: He coasted in a little too much, little too much
Speaker 2: ease there, almost got leon letted.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did at the goal line.
Speaker 2: But ultimately that touchdown is what gave Stanford enough breathing
Speaker 2: room so they can go and get the three point
Speaker 2: w Interestingly enough, Keller Christ was the one who got
Speaker 2: to start in this game.
Speaker 1: Dan, Yeah, and he was fine.
Speaker 2: He traded on and off with kJ Costello, which begs
Speaker 2: the question whether or not whether or not they're going
Speaker 2: to do this thing. If David Shaw's going to do
Speaker 2: the two quarterback rotation thing moving.
Speaker 1: Forward, right, I really hope not. I have no interest
Speaker 1: in Stanford's passing game whatsoever. I like Trent Irwin, but nah,
Speaker 1: nothing right about it.
Speaker 2: Stanford's passing game is like the garnish on an entree,
Speaker 2: you know, like you can eat it and it won't
Speaker 2: kill you, but it's never really that.
Speaker 1: Appetizing a you're so you're calling him Parsley exactly. Passing
Speaker 1: game exactly. So Bryce Love is the entree. The passing
Speaker 1: game is the part. Brice Love's a good juicy steak.
Speaker 2: Okay, and Keller Christ and kJ Costello and anyone else,
Speaker 2: they're they're the They're the Parsley.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No. The Utah defense, I mean, the front is
Speaker 1: deep and angry and fundamentally very sound. They did a
Speaker 1: very good job against Bryce Love, but as you mentioned,
Speaker 1: you can only do a good job against Bryce Love
Speaker 1: for so long, and it paid off good for Stanford.
Speaker 1: I'm still kind of worried about their defense because this
Speaker 1: was still a Detroit Williams Utah team, not a Tyler
Speaker 1: Huntley Utah team, and with Wazoo, with Washington, I'm not
Speaker 1: terribly if if Justin Herbert isn't playing for Oregon, not
Speaker 1: super worried about that next week, but it's a it's
Speaker 1: a concern.
Speaker 2: They got some games coming up in Utah by the way,
Speaker 2: at USC next week which could be could be intriguing.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that one on Wednesday. Washington State thirty three,
Speaker 2: Oregon ten.
Speaker 1: Yes. Okay, so Braxton, can we call him beer Meister?
Speaker 1: He does not deserve a nickname yet. We have a
Speaker 1: Burmeister and a born Schlager or whatever who both struggled
Speaker 1: mightily yesterday. Braxton beer meister. Potentially he's underage type. Be cool.
Speaker 2: Oregon's entire offense is hurt. They're all hurt. Yeah, every
Speaker 2: one of them's hurt. Strangely, this was a goofy line.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it was at kickoff when we
Speaker 2: did our show. We even had a hard time tracking
Speaker 2: it down. But whatever it was, it wasn't that hefty line,
Speaker 2: and Washington State won the game by twenty three. Luke
Speaker 2: Falk remains incredible.
Speaker 1: Okay. I ran the numbers. I woke up bright and
Speaker 1: early today.
Speaker 2: I got the stats before anyone actually updated their websites.
Speaker 2: He has two hundred and sixty two passing attempts, which
Speaker 2: is it's got to be top five in the nation.
Speaker 2: And he's got almost a seventy two percent completion percentage.
Speaker 1: That is really freaking good. No, it's very good. And
Speaker 1: part of it is that part of their rushing attack
Speaker 1: is short throws, so he's getting the ball out of
Speaker 1: his hands quickly and those are very completable throws. So
Speaker 1: that may skew it a little bit, but still to
Speaker 1: throw that often and that cleanly is quite impressive. So
Speaker 1: I thought Oregon actually did a very good job for
Speaker 1: the most part against Luke Fox. If you watch that
Speaker 1: first half, they were sacking him, they were making him
Speaker 1: think for far too long. If there's a criticism I
Speaker 1: have about him is as he goes through his progressions,
Speaker 1: he becomes sort of statuesque, he becomes bledsoeean if I'm
Speaker 1: going to a casual dress James Franklin a little bit.
Speaker 1: He's just there's no point where he feels the pressure
Speaker 1: and rolls out. That is just not his game. And
Speaker 1: that's sort of to Washington State's detriment because they can
Speaker 1: become a little bit third and outye because of it,
Speaker 1: because you'll take a sack on second down and really
Speaker 1: take them out of position. And Oregon did a very
Speaker 1: good job against for the most part, Washington State on
Speaker 1: the ground. Here's the problem. Washington State plays excellent defense
Speaker 1: and Oregon was super duper. One note on offense, and
Speaker 1: that was hand the ball to a running back moving straightforward.
Speaker 1: Do you know in this game specifically, I think the
Speaker 1: teams combined to go four for thirty one on third down? Nice? Nice?
Speaker 1: Would you say if if you were on the Oregon
Speaker 1: coaching staff that a key might be you gotta get
Speaker 1: the ball past the chains on third down if we
Speaker 1: have any shot with a quarterback who can't really throw
Speaker 1: downfield for the most part, you have to be able
Speaker 1: to keep the offense on the field. Oregon, now in
Speaker 1: both of their losses, now these are it's a disappointing
Speaker 1: Arizona State team and a good Washington State team. I
Speaker 1: think they are combined two for twenty eight on third down. Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 1: Going into the Willie Taggart era, I said to myself, Oh, well,
Speaker 1: he's a hardball guy. And now I say to myself, Ohugh,
Speaker 1: he's a hardball guy, isn't he is that? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: harb coming out here. Yeah, And in his defense, this
Speaker 1: was not justin Herbert Orgon's best two receivers route. I
Speaker 1: think their starting tight end was out. Organ's also super
Speaker 1: sloppy up front. Just get it all out, get it
Speaker 1: all out, right, I'm trying to just get it out.
Speaker 1: Offensive line is very good at both blocking and starting
Speaker 1: too early before the ball is snapped. They'll pop that
Speaker 1: big old Oregon pimple. So I'm trying to think who
Speaker 1: Oregon is in this home alone comparison. But not a
Speaker 1: great Knight. Not a great Knight. And Washington State did
Speaker 1: a great job wearing them down and taking advantage. They
Speaker 1: would be the parents that forgot Kevin. This is true,
Speaker 1: this is true. All right, we gotta go quick man.
Speaker 1: We got let's coence, We got games to get through.
Speaker 2: Washington thirty eight col seven of note, Cal statistically now
Speaker 2: statistically finished with negative forty yards rushing as a team.
Speaker 1: That's not the best. I think that eight against Oregon.
Speaker 2: It was because of a botched field goal at the
Speaker 2: end of the game, but that still means they only
Speaker 2: had one rushing yard before that play.
Speaker 1: Cal is becoming who we assumed Cal would become. They
Speaker 1: are who we thought they were. Okay, that's okay, It's
Speaker 1: gonna take time.
Speaker 2: Arizona forty five, Colorado forty two, collectively Dan seven hundred
Speaker 2: and twenty five rushing yards in this game, led first
Speaker 2: and foremost by backup quarterback Khalil Tate.
Speaker 1: Oooh god, I am, I'm getting the vapors tie.
Speaker 2: He broke the FBS single game rushing record for a
Speaker 2: quarterback with fourteen carries that went for three hundred and
Speaker 2: twenty seven yards. Are you freaking kidding? That's an average
Speaker 2: of twenty three yards per carry. He had touchdown runs
Speaker 2: of fifty eight, twenty eight, forty seven, and seventy five.
Speaker 2: And granted, Colorado's defense isn't what it was a year ago,
Speaker 2: but it's still pretty good and in terms of giving
Speaker 2: up big plays on the ground. Before this game, they
Speaker 2: were a top thirty defense Dan. So this was a
Speaker 2: game for Khalil Tate as Arizona gets a kind of
Speaker 2: surprising victory here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they gave up what forty to Washington,
Speaker 1: They held UCLA down pretty nicely in forty five to Arizona.
Speaker 1: If you give up three hundred and twenty seven yards
Speaker 1: to a very good running quarterback, which Khalil Tate is
Speaker 1: who I believe we actually talked about during the quarterback
Speaker 1: battle in the PAC twelve preview as a name to
Speaker 1: pay attention to Khalil Tate just in terms of his
Speaker 1: pure athletic ability. But if you, as a defense give
Speaker 1: up three hundred and twenty seven rushing yards to a quarterback,
Speaker 1: are you still a good defense in the present tense? No?
Speaker 2: No, I don't believe so, definitely not. And the real
Speaker 2: shame of the batter. So good, good, good for him,
Speaker 2: nice game, obviously a great game. The real shame was
Speaker 2: Colorado's Philip Lindsay, who, yeah, ran for two hundred and
Speaker 2: eighty one yards any losing.
Speaker 1: Effort, Yeah, a workhorse effort. I mean he didn't have
Speaker 1: huge run after huge run, but.
Speaker 2: Too eighty one is too eighty one, dog, Yeah, to
Speaker 2: eighty one is two eighty one.
Speaker 1: You're right.
Speaker 2: And finally USC thirty eight Oregon State ten. We won't
Speaker 2: go too much into detail with this one because we
Speaker 2: got to move, but let's just say that Kyle White
Speaker 2: from Oregon State quoted as saying about Sam Darnold, he's
Speaker 2: a normal PAC twelve quarterback. I didn't see anything special.
Speaker 2: Should have been three picks. He's okay. A lot of
Speaker 2: the plays he made because we shot ourselves in the foot.
Speaker 1: So there's that Yeah, sounds like me after every football
Speaker 1: video game I've ever.
Speaker 2: Lost, exactly acc action. We gotta move, We got to
Speaker 2: talk about what happened on Thursday. I caught some flack
Speaker 2: from the kids on Twitter because I predicted that Louisville
Speaker 2: ululuislu Elleville. I predicted they were gonna win by twenty five.
Speaker 1: Oops. I really should stop being confident in Louisville at
Speaker 1: this point, right.
Speaker 2: I think it's time time, because every time I'm confident
Speaker 2: in Louisville, they eke one out against Purdue or they
Speaker 2: just straight up lose. And NC State pretty much played
Speaker 2: this one the way you have to. They let Lamar
Speaker 2: Jackson run wild, go get your stats, Lamar, and then
Speaker 2: they just come away with the win. Lamar had four
Speaker 2: to twenty in total yards, three touchdowns, but NC State
Speaker 2: finishes with thirty nine points in the w They win
Speaker 2: thirty nine to twenty five. They are now a very
Speaker 2: quiet five and one. They've beaten both Florida State and Louisville.
Speaker 2: They've clearly positioned themselves as the next best team in
Speaker 2: the Atlantic behind Clemson in the ACC and it's hard
Speaker 2: not to look at this game and like what they
Speaker 2: did because again they let Lamar get the stats, but
Speaker 2: they put pressure on them the entire game. They sacked
Speaker 2: four times on offense, they were extremely balanced. I talked
Speaker 2: about Luke Falk and his completion percer, but Ryan Finley
Speaker 2: has been outstanding this year. He's got something like a
Speaker 2: seventy percent completion percentage as well.
Speaker 1: NC State is quietly, very very good the defensive front.
Speaker 1: We knew about Ryan Finley's potential. You know, what he
Speaker 1: did at times last year was on display. But yeah,
Speaker 1: he has I don't think he's thrown a pick this year.
Speaker 1: We're in we're like well into October. He has not
Speaker 1: thrown a pick. He was fantastic against a disappointing Louisville defense.
Speaker 1: There is not too much positive to take away for Louisville.
Speaker 1: And this came other than the fact that you probably
Speaker 1: didn't know this, but if Louisville either wins or loses
Speaker 1: a Thursday night game, Rick Patino gets a huge bonus.
Speaker 1: Oh man did not know that. No, he gets a
Speaker 1: sizable bonus kind of result. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2: Clemson twenty eight Wake fourteen. Kelly Bryant threw for two
Speaker 2: hundred through for a touchdown. Then he left with an
Speaker 2: ankle injury in the third quarter, so I have to
Speaker 2: watch that. Both the Clemson's backups came in got some action.
Speaker 2: But twenty eight to fourteen win over Wake.
Speaker 1: No, John Wolford, hope he's all right?
Speaker 2: Yes, Notre Dame thirty three UNC ten. Ian Book was
Speaker 2: your starter?
Speaker 1: Hey? He I thought he looked pretty good.
Speaker 2: And the only other note here is that North Carolina
Speaker 2: is really bad.
Speaker 1: North Carolina is real bad. I only saw a little
Speaker 1: bit of this game. It was also in the rain,
Speaker 1: so it's hard to take too much away from quarterback.
Speaker 1: I wasn't super thrilled watching Ian Book, but that he
Speaker 1: was all right. Why he's the backup? He was fine. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech, Virginia and Syracuse all win. Dan, do you
Speaker 2: have any parting thoughts on the acc before we go
Speaker 2: big ten?
Speaker 1: A little bit of a struggle for Virginia Tech. Offensively
Speaker 1: cool to see Syracuse win once again on their march
Speaker 1: to six. But no, that's pretty much out. Virginia is
Speaker 1: pretty decent, not bad, right, Virginia's I like Kirk Bankard
Speaker 1: a lot ty. I am. I am rooting for this
Speaker 1: Virginia team.
Speaker 2: You know, I was thinking in relation to Kurt Bankert.
Speaker 2: This is my only frame of reference, by the way,
Speaker 2: and it's horrible to say, yeah, downish game yesterday, But
Speaker 2: I like him. But a couple of years back, when
Speaker 2: I blew out my shoulder, I had something called a
Speaker 2: Bankert lesion. Oh and so I'm thinking if if you
Speaker 2: lose to Kurt Bankert, that's a Bankert lesion.
Speaker 1: Don't want that? Yeah, you don't want that? Right? Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm Brian Harson.
Speaker 2: Little orthopedic reference for all y'all? Okay, big ten mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Penn State thirty one Northwestern seven. This game was brutal
Speaker 2: to watch, brutal, brutal, brutal to watch, mostly because of Northwestern,
Speaker 2: but still we hadn't used for a little bit on
Speaker 2: the Wednesday Show that this one might be close, and
Speaker 2: I took Northwestern in the points. Ultimately for Northwestern two
Speaker 2: point two yards on the ground per rush, four point
Speaker 2: six yards through the air on average, three turnovers. This
Speaker 2: is a bad offense that looked even worse because they
Speaker 2: were up against a good defense here. Yes, I you know,
Speaker 2: I don't worry about Trace mcswirley. He had he had
Speaker 2: decent enough stats. I don't worry about Saquon Barkley. I
Speaker 2: worry about their offensive line because the offensive line has
Speaker 2: its moments. What happens when this line goes up against Michigan,
Speaker 2: What happens when this line goes up against a team
Speaker 2: like in Ohio State, That to me is like what
Speaker 2: I'm worried about. If I'm a Penn State fan, That
Speaker 2: to me feels like a weakness going up against some
Speaker 2: of these better defensive fronts. And I feel a lot
Speaker 2: about Penn State offensively the way I do USC because
Speaker 2: their offense is comfortably in fourth gear comfortably and there's
Speaker 2: a fifth gear that they can get to. But whenever
Speaker 2: they whenever they stop that proverbial clutch dan and then
Speaker 2: they try to go to fifth.
Speaker 1: I don't know how.
Speaker 2: Familiar you are with manual vehicles. Obviously you're a huge gearhead,
Speaker 2: so I'm assuming you are.
Speaker 1: That's me.
Speaker 2: But whenever you stop that clutch man and you try
Speaker 2: to get up there, it's just it's kind of you
Speaker 2: get that grinding sound and it just it doesn't naturally
Speaker 2: flow there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it might. Who hurt their heisman chances more?
Speaker 1: Yesterday Barkley or Baker Mayfield fifteen carries for twenty two
Speaker 1: yards outside of the long run. Probably Baker. He had
Speaker 1: an ok game. He always has an okay game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Sequon has his weird down games. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I feel like people are so into Saquon at this
Speaker 2: point that as long as he keeps scoring touchdowns and
Speaker 2: getting like more than seventy yards a game, he's going
Speaker 2: to get benefit of the doubt. Whereas you lose at
Speaker 2: home to Iowa State, you know, you're so accustomed to
Speaker 2: Baker getting the stats that people might be more inclined
Speaker 2: to to speak ill of that.
Speaker 1: But now Saquon Barklay has to have huge games against
Speaker 1: Michigan and Ohio State has to he does. Also, you
Speaker 1: skip one very important thing, ty James Franklin finally got
Speaker 1: to win against Northwestern, right, yeah, who it is?
Speaker 2: Uh? Oh finally getting mat feeling good?
Speaker 1: Yeah, our Powell Roger Sherman had not so nice things
Speaker 1: to say about Northwestern's offense, which is still bad, very
Speaker 1: very bad. Okay, with the same coordinator that they've had
Speaker 1: since like two thousand and eight.
Speaker 2: Wisconsin thirty eight Nebraska's seventeen. Wisconsin ran for three point
Speaker 2: fifty three and three touchdowns two hundred and forty nine
Speaker 2: and two touchdowns, of which came from our boy Jonathan
Speaker 2: Taylor tailback. Very good, very very good rushing attack here
Speaker 2: for Wisconsin. It's what they do. I also have to
Speaker 2: do something here.
Speaker 1: Uh oh.
Speaker 2: And I'm not doing this to be mean spirited, but
Speaker 2: there is a gentleman out there who tweeted us and
Speaker 2: he said that he's trying to get his friend to
Speaker 2: listen to the podcast, and in order to really put
Speaker 2: him over the top in his in his cell job here,
Speaker 2: he requested that we that we play the Tanner Lee
Speaker 2: sound one more time.
Speaker 1: Okay, listen, you're in control of the sounds, ty.
Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna leave this here. Tanner Lee sixteen
Speaker 2: of thirty two, putting those Manning passing Academy skills to
Speaker 2: work with two hundred and sixty two yards in touchdown.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and his tenth interception of the season. But that
Speaker 1: just makes him a huge, huge NFL quarterback. If Sam
Speaker 1: donaldon have nine or ten at this point, yeah, different
Speaker 1: from ten? Yeah, Yeah, let's look optimistically at this.
Speaker 2: We Sam Donald of the Heartland, Yes, Sam hartnulled, Okay,
Speaker 2: I apologize. Ohio State sixty two, Maryland fourteen, Ohio State
Speaker 2: killed Max Borton Schlocker.
Speaker 1: Oh, they killed him. He was three of twelve passing
Speaker 1: for sixt ten yards in this game. Dan, Yeah, at
Speaker 1: a certain point the total yard it was like four
Speaker 1: oh one to twelve or pal Matt Brown tweeted it
Speaker 1: out and and it was it was like sixteen carries
Speaker 1: four yards whatever it was. Ryan did the math, Ryan Nanny,
Speaker 1: and it was like it was like one point eight
Speaker 1: inches per carry.
Speaker 2: Whenever you can easily do the yards to feat conversion
Speaker 2: on someone's passing line, that is generally very very bad.
Speaker 1: Well, when the rushing attempt is basically when somebody tells
Speaker 1: you if you're taking a photo and you're just like,
Speaker 1: just could you scoot just a scoach. That's what Marilyn
Speaker 1: ran for. Oh, that's discotch of note. Ty Johnson was fine,
Speaker 1: They just took seth of note here. Yeah, he ran
Speaker 1: back a kick. That was nice.
Speaker 2: But Ohio State lost Brandon Bowen from its line for
Speaker 2: the year. He broke his left leg, so we hope
Speaker 2: he's hope he's okay. We wish him a speedy recovery.
Speaker 2: Hileo State's crazy deep pretty much across the board, but
Speaker 2: losing your.
Speaker 1: Right guard is of note, so we hope he hope
Speaker 1: he's better.
Speaker 2: Perdue thirty one Minnesota seventeen. This is my off the
Speaker 2: grid lock of the week.
Speaker 1: I hit it.
Speaker 2: Thankfully I did not watch it because it featured, as
Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier, in eighty eight minute rain delay and
Speaker 2: six turnovers. So if you were at this game, if
Speaker 2: you had to watch this game, may God have.
Speaker 1: Mercy on your soul.
Speaker 2: Hopefully you were on the correct end of the bedding
Speaker 2: and you cashed in on Purdue's fourteen point home victory.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Did you see a seven overtime game tie? Because
Speaker 1: I watched the end of that and that was a
Speaker 1: lot of yards. That was many yardages. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: So it's Western Michigan over Buffalo, poor Buffalo. What was
Speaker 1: the final score of that game? Huh, I'll load it
Speaker 1: up right now, but a lot to a lot TI,
Speaker 1: It was a lot to. It was Western Michigan seventy one,
Speaker 1: Buffalo sixty eight. Yo, Drew Anderson, I hope you have
Speaker 1: the losing efforts sound ready? Tie Drew Anderson starting quarterback
Speaker 1: five ninety seven and seven touchdowns in a losing effort.
Speaker 1: That's a tough one. That's a really tough one. It's
Speaker 1: not great.
Speaker 2: Iowa forty five, Illinois sixteen, Indiana twenty seven, Charleston Southern
Speaker 2: Goose Egg. All right, and very finally in our Power
Speaker 2: five action, we circle all the way back now to
Speaker 2: the Big Twelve. I know everyone has been eagerly awaiting
Speaker 2: our double overtime chat about Texas and Kansas State. Yep,
Speaker 2: there are only two undefeated teams in the Big twelve.
Speaker 2: Is one of them TCUs one of them. The other
Speaker 2: is Texas. Yes, sir, here's a fun fact for you.
Speaker 2: This is, honest to goodness, the first time in four
Speaker 2: years that Texas has started off two to zero.
Speaker 1: In the Big twelve. Damn good for them four years.
Speaker 2: This is actually a fun game to watch if you
Speaker 2: weren't a k State fan. Yeah, their defense genuinely let
Speaker 2: them down in this game. Sam Ellinger had four to
Speaker 2: eighty seven in total yardage, three point eighty through the air.
Speaker 2: Everyone's going to focus on the stats, but let's also
Speaker 2: give some props to the Texas offensive line because they're
Speaker 2: super banged up and they did a really good job
Speaker 2: against I think a good defense protecting Ellinger. They didn't
Speaker 2: give up a single sack in this game, they get
Speaker 2: the w forty to thirty four, and now Texas undefeated
Speaker 2: in the Big twelve. Texas and uh, you know a
Speaker 2: team that almost beat usc took them to overtime earlier
Speaker 2: in week two. Now they've got this game against Oklahoma
Speaker 2: where I'm intrigued and like I said, will clearly overreact
Speaker 2: to what happened to Oklahoma this week. HM the Red
Speaker 2: River shootout coming up. This is a big game, big
Speaker 2: big game for Tom Herman.
Speaker 1: Has Tom Herman beaten Oklahoma? Say in the last I
Speaker 1: don't know year and a couple of months. I have
Speaker 1: to check Dan check it out. Tie, I have to look.
Speaker 1: I will get back to you by Wednesday. He plays
Speaker 1: all of the positions, so I can say that that
Speaker 1: he beat Oklahoma. He himself, Sam Ellinger is probably the
Speaker 1: starter moving forward, right I. Yeah, he has it's up
Speaker 1: damn near five hundred total yards against a pretty decent
Speaker 1: Kansas State defense. Yeah. I was impressed with Texas forty
Speaker 1: know what it means in the future, but it seems
Speaker 1: like they're improving. Forty to thirty four.
Speaker 2: Nice win, nice win for Texas and finally, Texas Tech
Speaker 2: sixty five Kansas nineteen.
Speaker 1: Anything to add here, not particularly, but Texas Tech held
Speaker 1: a team under twenty points. I know, still not over
Speaker 1: that tie. I'm still not.
Speaker 2: In other action, we got to mention this, Yeah, future
Speaker 2: Nebraska coach Scott fraud Ust and his UCF Knights fifty
Speaker 2: one Cincinnati twenty three. U Sef's pretty good, fun game
Speaker 2: as Navy beats air Force forty eight to forty five.
Speaker 1: Big comeback and then an edge at the end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'd be remiss if we did not mention
Speaker 2: that Lafayette knocked off the mighty fordham Rams fourteen to ten,
Speaker 2: and Lehigh, as you heard our caller sing gleefully at
Speaker 2: the end of the reverbs, Lehigh knocked off the Gators
Speaker 2: of Colgate on the road, no less, on the road.
Speaker 2: So look, you went ten to five and one against
Speaker 2: the spread this week.
Speaker 1: Not bad. I'll turve Dan.
Speaker 2: Ten five and one. The only games you got wrong
Speaker 2: were Bama, Michigan State, Loullville, k State, and Syracuse.
Speaker 1: I went six' nine and. ONE i hit both my,
Speaker 1: locks BUT i went six to nine and.
Speaker 2: One according to the official, TALLY i am sitting at
Speaker 2: forty six point four. Percent you are at forty four
Speaker 2: point five percent for the. Season, HOWEVER i have a
Speaker 2: request to make Of, matt who so graciously has volunteered
Speaker 2: to keep track of these. Numbers he is Including Patriot
Speaker 2: league games in that. Tally it REALLY i don't want
Speaker 2: to diminish our good friends over at The Patriot, league
Speaker 2: but to think that you OR i put any real
Speaker 2: thought into who's winning these games when we pick them
Speaker 2: is really giving us a lot of.
Speaker 1: Credit we're not even like picking against the.
Speaker 2: Spread if we strip out those, GAMES i believe you
Speaker 2: will have a healthy lead on. Me if he wouldn't
Speaker 2: mind going back through and taking another run just the
Speaker 2: games against the, SPREAD i would suspect that that you
Speaker 2: are doing a lot better than. Me you've also done
Speaker 2: better on your. Lock ALTHOUGH i did go to AND
Speaker 2: o this. Week hey, Nice i'm trying to ship back back,
Speaker 2: away get back into this, action but you had a
Speaker 2: rather impressive, week SO i just wanted to congratulate.
Speaker 1: You you did it and did a very good. Job
Speaker 1: and even though we're not counting The Patriot, league this
Speaker 1: is still the conference Of Marv. Hubbard, tie that's, Correct Jim,
Speaker 1: Schwartz Joe, Madden Greg Maluski's, Yeah GIT i have a
Speaker 1: question for, You, ty, yes close with this and this
Speaker 1: is not, serious but it's actual college football. Questioning what
Speaker 1: did you have an opinion about The Chris Peterson kirk
Speaker 1: Kurb street. Thing as An east coast viewer and person
Speaker 1: interested in The pac twelve and perhaps not watching Big
Speaker 1: pac twelve games at one in the, MORNING.
Speaker 2: I do have an opinion rehash for people what's going on?
Speaker 2: HERE i don't know if everyone caught.
Speaker 1: This, okay so last Week Chris, peterson of, course the
Speaker 1: head coach The Washington. Huskies they were in the playoff last,
Speaker 1: year in case you have already, forgotten and our a
Speaker 1: rival of the school THAT i root, for BUT i
Speaker 1: Enjoyed pack twelve. Football he came out and said that
Speaker 1: he wished That washington didn't have as many ten ten
Speaker 1: thirty Pm eastern time. Kicks he, says all those night
Speaker 1: games and obviously seven to seven thirty on The west,
Speaker 1: coast tough for their, fans tough for them to get
Speaker 1: exposure on The east. Coast and you, know he's just
Speaker 1: not super pleased with. It and THEN, espn who we
Speaker 1: have a lot of pals AT. Espn we like ESPN's
Speaker 1: college football. Coverage we like Kirkurb, street they come back
Speaker 1: just just splashing the pot right in an onslaught of
Speaker 1: pr on game day and, saying, well ratings are this
Speaker 1: for night games and they're actually, good and they're this
Speaker 1: percent better Than pack twelve games in the, afternoon and
Speaker 1: all of THIS i presume is. True i'm a little
Speaker 1: bit hesitant to be Like ESPN's ratings according TO, espn
Speaker 1: Like pepsi's new great, flavor excellent according To, Pepsi Crystal. Pepsi,
Speaker 1: Right i'm a little bit hesitant about. That AND i
Speaker 1: think there was certainly a degree of framing WHEN espn
Speaker 1: is revealing their own ratings and they're saying ratings east
Speaker 1: of The, rockies, well that's a large part of the
Speaker 1: country downloads After, tuesday, Right SO i was a little
Speaker 1: bit curious about that sort of pr. Onslaught and Then
Speaker 1: Kirk herbstreet, saying, HEY i love THE pac. TWELVE i
Speaker 1: love THE pac twelve getting, attention but you should be
Speaker 1: thankful that we are AIRING pac twelve, Football like somebody, saying,
Speaker 1: HEY i know we've been dating for a, while could
Speaker 1: we just talk about a couple, things, Like, hey you
Speaker 1: should be Grateful i'm dating. You, yeah it's a business.
Speaker 1: Relationship and THEN espn puts the. CHIRON i Guess Chris
Speaker 1: peterson refused to an interview before the game WITH, espn
Speaker 1: and they put a, Chiron so like that lower third
Speaker 1: of text to graphic on the screen explaining THE pac
Speaker 1: twelve ratings underneath video Of Chris peterson sort of walking
Speaker 1: the sideline before the. Game, REALLY i thought it was
Speaker 1: so BENEATH. ESPN i thought it was so crazy orchestrated
Speaker 1: pr to come out and just try to Delegitimateizize Chris, peterson,
Speaker 1: who by the, way tie when coaches complain or when
Speaker 1: coaches act, weird or when they say stuff to get,
Speaker 1: attention or when they have new. Uniforms why why are
Speaker 1: all of these things? Happening is there something you can
Speaker 1: attribute it? To BECAUSE i have an. Idea, YEAH i
Speaker 1: think everything that is somewhat weird and attention grabby is.
Speaker 1: Recruiting of. Course so where are all Of Chris peterson's
Speaker 1: best players. From they're From. California, yeah, yeah there's a
Speaker 1: couple From. WASHINGTON i Think Bier murphy's From. Arizona Maybe
Speaker 1: i'm wrong about, that but they're not from the. Region
Speaker 1: they're not From, Washington, Oregon, idaho and so when he
Speaker 1: is on a weekly basis SEEING usc at five, pm eight,
Speaker 1: pm and all of his players grow up WATCHING, usc
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily a ratings. Thing it's A i'm competing
Speaker 1: against WHO espn wants to put in primetime every. Week
Speaker 1: AND i think that's a totally valid complaint That i'm
Speaker 1: also positive tie That Kirk kirp straight understands That Chris
Speaker 1: peterson complaining about exposure ISN'T tv. Ratings it's about, recruiting
Speaker 1: and it feels LIKE espn could have done a better
Speaker 1: job Of it's actually good for THE pac. Twelve ratings are,
Speaker 1: good but we understand his, concerns and we're always trying
Speaker 1: to get the best deal for THE pac twelve because
Speaker 1: they're also in the business of.
Speaker 2: RIGHTS i sort of wondered if Like herbstreet was taking it,
Speaker 2: personally because he frequently does like the prime primetime.
Speaker 1: Game, sure you, know like there was almost.
Speaker 2: An element of that that that seemed like it crept
Speaker 2: in a little. BIT i didn't quite understand the fire
Speaker 2: THAT espn came back. WITH i, Understand, Look Chris peterson
Speaker 2: will not be the FIRST pac twelve COACH pac twelve
Speaker 2: anything to complain about some of the time slots that they.
Speaker 2: Draw this has been an ongoing thing and it's fun
Speaker 2: in us on The East coast here we make a
Speaker 2: game of THIS pac Twelve After dark. Thing it's kind
Speaker 2: of taken on it's own identity to an, extent but,
Speaker 2: legitimately when you're trying to run something and when you're
Speaker 2: trying to compete and attract new talent to come to your,
Speaker 2: organization your, club your, school your, whatever, yeah it's it's, location,
Speaker 2: location location in a virtual, sense in a television rating,
Speaker 2: sense you want to get as many eyeballs as you
Speaker 2: can on whatever it is that you're. Selling, sure he
Speaker 2: is absolutely coming at it from that. Perspective so, YEAH
Speaker 2: i didn't understand the fire THAT espn came back.
Speaker 1: With it was. Unnecessary it was totally beneath. Them and
Speaker 1: obviously there is a there's a reason behind everything they
Speaker 1: want to outwardly say to THE pac, Twelve look how
Speaker 1: good your ratings. Are we are delivering on all sorts of.
Speaker 1: PROMISES i get, that but it's sort of it's it
Speaker 1: felt antagonistic with no real, need and you know, what at,
Speaker 1: first it seemed Like Chris. Peterson it was like sort
Speaker 1: of self, serving AND i promise we'll stop talking about
Speaker 1: this momentarily self, serving like we want more people watching.
Speaker 1: Us what About? Washington what About. Washington but then it
Speaker 1: was sort of flipped Like washington is aware that they
Speaker 1: are In, seattle very far away from a lot of,
Speaker 1: places and you, know they've tried to spice up the.
Speaker 1: Program they do The oregon thing with the helmets and
Speaker 1: the uniforms and stuff, now and they redid the, stadium
Speaker 1: but there's still it's an uphill, battle AND i Think
Speaker 1: Chris peterson recognizes. That, yeah it was so much fire coming.
Speaker 1: BACK i didn't fully get. IT i don't. Know it
Speaker 1: was like A twitter feud playing out in real.
Speaker 2: Life but, Whatever, okay close this out with some dude Lords,
Speaker 2: Dan oh my, GOD i have.
Speaker 1: Got who we? Got who do we? Got oh my,
Speaker 1: god there were so many dudes this week in college.
Speaker 1: Football won Buzz McAllister from home. Alone such a. Dude
Speaker 1: in the, end he was a good support of older
Speaker 1: Brother Joel, landing obviously quarterback and linebacker For Iowa. State
Speaker 1: playmaker did all things all over The, still how about this,
Speaker 1: one Ty Adam nunez Or. NUNYAZ i don't know if
Speaker 1: there's A. Tilda the punter FOR tcu kept Pinning West virginia.
Speaker 1: Deep we see. You Braxton, barrios playmaker For miami on the.
Speaker 1: Outside Julian, aquara good pick hell of a play tie
Speaker 1: tip did it intercepted it to? Himself, yeah come, on that's.
Speaker 1: Ridiculous kyle kempt we mentioned Another Iowa state guy played
Speaker 1: quarterback was. Ridiculous Khalil tate rush for three hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty seven yards For arizona as a. Quarterback Carry On
Speaker 1: johnson went over two hundred For auburn on the. Ground Dontrell.
Speaker 1: Hilliard we didn't mention The tulane, score But tulane was
Speaker 1: up like forty eight to three or ten or something
Speaker 1: at halftime Against. Tulsa he was a big reason Why
Speaker 1: Troy die forced a fumble while laying on the. Ground For,
Speaker 1: oregon their star Linebacker Drew. Anderson we mentioned in a
Speaker 1: losing effort quarterback For Buffalo Jonathan taylor tailback Tie. Boom
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Speaker 1: Well just too many dood. Alerts Riley ferguson And Anthony
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Speaker 1: YUKON i respect. That Eric, powell the kicker For Washington state,
Speaker 1: TIE i dig deep with. THESE i think he connected
Speaker 1: on a fifty two and a forty seven yard field.
Speaker 1: Goal you know how many teams are jealous of that?
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