WEBVTT - Peter Schrager

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<v Speaker 1>I was at the local coffee shop.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a coffee shop called Joe Coffee which is in

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<v Speaker 2>our hood, and like everyone goes through there, and Matt

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<v Speaker 2>Damon was in there and he had a Boston Red

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<v Speaker 2>Sox hat. And I'm like, all right, do you say

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<v Speaker 2>something to Matt Damon or you just let Matt Damon be?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, as a fellow celebrity, I'm joking. I know

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<v Speaker 2>you don't bother him.

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<v Speaker 1>You let him be.

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<v Speaker 2>But then Damon looked at me and gave me the nod,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think he knew who I was, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was about to engage, and then he was gone out

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<v Speaker 2>of my life forever.

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<v Speaker 1>That friendship never materialized either.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi. My name is Peter Schrager and I am so

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<v Speaker 2>juiced every day I get to wake up.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, everybody, and welcome to Off the Beat. Get it.

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<v Speaker 3>I just said it, Off the Beat. It is me

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<v Speaker 3>as always your host, Brian I. Gartner, and today football

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<v Speaker 3>fans rejoice, but also fans of really good, interesting people.

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<v Speaker 3>You rejoice as well, because we have a spectacular guest

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<v Speaker 3>who knows just about everything and everybody involved with the NFL.

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<v Speaker 3>Peter Schrager, NFL Insider joins us on the podcast Today.

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<v Speaker 3>He is a brilliant analyst and a sideline reporter. He's

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<v Speaker 3>also a podcast host. He's a best selling author, he's

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<v Speaker 3>an Emmy winner, and well, I'm proud to say a

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<v Speaker 3>friend of mine. His show Good Morning Football, three hours

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<v Speaker 3>of live television every single weekday of the year. It's

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<v Speaker 3>the best if you want to keep up with NFL news.

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<v Speaker 3>You can also see him on Fox NFL Kickoff on

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<v Speaker 3>the Sidelines at times for Fox Sports, and he's a

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<v Speaker 3>regular on The Heard with Colin Cowherd and The Dan

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<v Speaker 3>Patrick Show. Basically, anywhere there's football, there is Peter. And

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<v Speaker 3>anywhere there's Peter, you know it's going to be gold.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to keep you waiting any longer. One

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<v Speaker 3>of my favorite people in the business. Peter Schrigger, everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Bubble and Squeak. I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>Bubble and Squeakna.

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<v Speaker 1>Bubble and Squeak.

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<v Speaker 2>I cook it every month, left over.

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<v Speaker 1>From the night before.

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<v Speaker 3>Peter. Yes, yes, what is happening?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, you look great? How are you on the course?

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<v Speaker 1>Right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Where are you? I'm not on the course, but you

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<v Speaker 3>are definitely getting vacation. Brian It I am here from

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<v Speaker 3>beautiful hilton Head Island.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's so good. So much miniature and the regular kind.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right. I think we're doing miniature golf this afternoon.

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<v Speaker 3>Big family reunion. It sounds like I'm doing a commercial

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<v Speaker 3>for it. My parents live here in hilton Head Island.

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<v Speaker 3>My parents retired down here.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we we are doing our I think it's our

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<v Speaker 3>first actual like an official family reunion. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know the family reunion people. That's not what

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<v Speaker 1>we do. So I love doing it like.

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<v Speaker 3>We've never done it. We got a huge house. We're

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<v Speaker 3>all staying under one roof.

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<v Speaker 1>There could be a show about that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's uh yeah, it's very entertaining last night. Now, I

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<v Speaker 3>was not up this morning, but my sister, this is

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<v Speaker 3>unbelievably cool. In hilton Head Island. At this time of year,

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<v Speaker 3>the sea turtle's nest and you have to turn your

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<v Speaker 3>lights off if you're near the water so that the

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<v Speaker 3>babies don't get confused, and they go they follow the

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<v Speaker 3>moon back into the water. Well, this morning they had hatched,

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<v Speaker 3>and my sister walked down. They saw the tracks of

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<v Speaker 3>the little baby sea turtles going back into the sea,

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<v Speaker 3>and about this time they have people who go up

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<v Speaker 3>and down the beach and they're helping the sea turtles

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever. They show up and they know to like

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<v Speaker 3>look around and make sure there are no stragglers. And

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<v Speaker 3>there was a straggler.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>They crawled into a crab hole and they got it

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<v Speaker 3>out and they saw slash held the volunteer held it.

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<v Speaker 3>But they got to see the baby sea turtle and

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<v Speaker 3>watch it take its first steps into the ocean.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the most amazing thing. I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know that in about six months or a

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<v Speaker 2>year from now, there's gonna be like a giant raising

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<v Speaker 2>canes and that exact spot that's built.

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<v Speaker 1>Or there's gonna be a TD bank there instead. So

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy that. That's beautiful. That sounds awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>We saw the last of the turtles. Yes, exactly right,

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<v Speaker 3>you got it. I'm so excited to be talking to you.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is hot. I mean this this constitutes

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<v Speaker 3>is our official NFL pre season episode. For sure. We're

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<v Speaker 3>going to talk about that, but I want to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about you first. I know you grew up in New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell me about little Peter.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, little Peter.

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<v Speaker 3>Was not little Peter. No, tell me about little Peter.

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<v Speaker 1>That conversation would be quite short.

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<v Speaker 3>Brun were sports? Were you into sports?

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<v Speaker 2>I was diehard, Like I was the kid that would

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<v Speaker 2>memorize the baseball cards and know every factoid on the back.

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up in Freehold, New Jersey, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>town in central Jersey. It's not quite Jersey short, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not quite North Jersey. We're kind of our own little world.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Springsteen Country. So if you want to think like

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<v Speaker 2>blue collar this is, you know, we're going to make

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<v Speaker 2>it out of here someday and get to the big

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<v Speaker 2>city about an hour away.

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<v Speaker 1>That that's where it was.

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<v Speaker 2>And my childhood was getting a pack of tops cards,

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<v Speaker 2>watching Sports Center in the morning, memorizing statistics, waking up

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<v Speaker 2>every morning and getting the newspaper and checking the box scores.

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<v Speaker 2>And I could tell you basically every player where they

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<v Speaker 2>went to college from the age of ten years old,

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<v Speaker 2>probably now, because my mind works that way and I

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<v Speaker 2>just was lucky enough to fall in love with sports,

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<v Speaker 2>realize at a young enough age I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>play sports professionally, kind of pivot into being a sports

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<v Speaker 2>media guy, first a writer and then eventually on television.

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<v Speaker 3>Now well, so okay, well, a couple of things. One,

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<v Speaker 3>you're from you're from You're from Mid Jersey. Now are you?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you Philly? Are you New York? What are you?

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<v Speaker 3>And what are the people around you?

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<v Speaker 2>Where Mammoth County is, which is like Freehold, manelopin more

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<v Speaker 2>Bro Howell. I'm sure you're very well versed on your

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<v Speaker 2>Central Jersey geography, but in those towns.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, northeastern Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 1>How about it? It is split three ways.

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<v Speaker 2>You're either Eagles fans, right Jets fans, or Giants fans.

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<v Speaker 2>I so happened to be very fortunate as a kid

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<v Speaker 2>to watch the eighty six Giants, to watch the ninety Giants,

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<v Speaker 2>and then to also get another bite at the apple

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<v Speaker 2>with Eli Manning and seven to twenty eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up a Giants fan.

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<v Speaker 2>On the Good Morning Football Show, I say I'm objective,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't, but I'll tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>With all my family and all my friends, we come from.

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<v Speaker 3>Giants Country, Giants Country. Okay, what about baseball and hockey

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff? Are you are you in New York? Then?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's funny because the Devils came around when I

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<v Speaker 2>was a kid and all that, but it was I

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<v Speaker 2>was Giants, I was New York Rangers, I was New

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<v Speaker 2>York Yankees. And in hockey, it was a New York

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<v Speaker 2>Rangers in the New York Nicks.

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<v Speaker 1>So those are the teams. I was in New York.

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<v Speaker 3>You were in New York all the way. So you

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<v Speaker 3>said you realized at an early age you weren't going

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<v Speaker 3>to play professionally, But I mean, did you play as

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<v Speaker 3>a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>I played basketball and soccer as a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>Football oddly enough, like it wasn't Pop Warner at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't what it is now. We didn't have flag football

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<v Speaker 2>when I was a kid, so I basically played in

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<v Speaker 2>like my street with the kids from the block. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and the thought of playing high school football. I went

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<v Speaker 2>to a big high school and there was kids who

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<v Speaker 2>were playing like I just wasn't in the cards for me.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would go to all the games on Friday

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<v Speaker 2>nights and I'd get into it and I would know

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<v Speaker 2>everything about it, but never thought to actually play actual football.

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<v Speaker 3>But you early on you thought you were going to

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<v Speaker 3>be involved in sports.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to be as a kid, Yeah, I really

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to be like I did everything you can imagine

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<v Speaker 2>and took every angle. Like when I was in college.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to Emory in Atlanta, which I've told you before,

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<v Speaker 2>not a football program. They don't have a football program,

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<v Speaker 2>not a huge sports media department. And all these kids

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<v Speaker 2>were going to like ESPN. All these guys and gals.

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<v Speaker 2>They were from Syracuse, where you go to New House

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<v Speaker 2>or Northwestern, you go to Medill or USC, you go

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<v Speaker 2>to Annaberg, Like there's like a factory where you can

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<v Speaker 2>go and become a sports center anchor, you know, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to a school to have So I showed

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<v Speaker 2>up at the ESPN Sports Zone in Buckhead in Atlanta

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<v Speaker 2>on a one hundred degree day in I think two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and two, dressed in a shirt and tie, and

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<v Speaker 2>I tried out for an ESPN reality show called ESPN

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<v Speaker 2>Dream Job Okay, which was like the American idol to

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<v Speaker 2>be on sports center.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't make it, but I made an impression with

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<v Speaker 2>some of the people who were there from ESPN. They

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<v Speaker 2>thought I was funny, charismatic, high energy out to junior

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<v Speaker 2>in college and they said, here's our card.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're done with college, let us know.

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<v Speaker 2>And my first job out of college was writing for

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<v Speaker 2>ESPN dot Com as a freelance writer, and it's because

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<v Speaker 2>of that venture to the Buckhead ESPN sport Zone, trying

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<v Speaker 2>to make an impression on them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, Now I can't remember if I've told you this

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<v Speaker 3>or not. My father, who was again is staying in

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<v Speaker 3>the same house with me forty two years. He spent

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<v Speaker 3>at Emory University. My sister went there. I didn't know this, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>and quite frankly, that's where I should have gone, because

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<v Speaker 3>when when you're at a big research hospital like Emory

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<v Speaker 3>is show me, it's world renown. You're also a teacher, right,

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<v Speaker 3>so you're teaching residents. You're teaching and actually was the

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<v Speaker 3>head of the residency program and was very interested in that.

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<v Speaker 3>And your kids get free tuition, is that right? So

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to go to Emory. That was what

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to do. And then at a certain

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<v Speaker 3>point when I decided what I wanted to do, they

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<v Speaker 3>didn't have a huge theater trade program, they didn't have

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<v Speaker 3>a conservatory program, and so you know, I made the

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<v Speaker 3>decision to go to SMU. Hail to the Red and

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<v Speaker 3>the Blue, the Mustangs of SMU. And my dad was,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, was very practical about it. It was like, okay, great,

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<v Speaker 3>how are you going to pay for it?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, how cool is your dad for understanding that?

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<v Speaker 2>But wouldn't he just say, like Emory is a top

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<v Speaker 2>fifty university, it's free to it, like don't do don't

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<v Speaker 2>don't go out one of the lines here. What a

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<v Speaker 2>cool dad for letting you pursue your dreams?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? One, yes, and two. It then meant and I

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<v Speaker 3>was fortunate in a way. I was recruited SMU, and

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<v Speaker 3>so I was very transparent with them, even as whenever

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<v Speaker 3>I was eighteen year old, I said, guys, I want

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<v Speaker 3>to come here too, but you've got to give me

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<v Speaker 3>some money, because otherwise.

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<v Speaker 2>In SMU at the time, this is pony Express, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>thinking football.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Eric Dickerson and.

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<v Speaker 3>All that is a little after that.

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<v Speaker 1>But they had they had a great theater department.

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<v Speaker 3>Great theater department.

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<v Speaker 1>So give me some I like going through the history

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<v Speaker 1>of the football. Give me the history of the theater

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<v Speaker 1>department at SMU. Who the Mustangs? Who they have?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Kathy Bates, okay me.

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<v Speaker 2>So when Kathy Bates goes to the office, are you like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we're fellow SMU?

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<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, In.

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<v Speaker 3>Fact, I'll tell you this. We opened a theater when

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<v Speaker 3>I was at SMU. We opened up it was a

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<v Speaker 3>thrust stage. That's not a joke, this is what it's called.

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<v Speaker 3>And to open up this theater, they invited back a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of old prestigious alumni, alumnuses, alumni, and Kathy Bates

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<v Speaker 3>was one, and my mom, unbeknownst to me, I guess,

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<v Speaker 3>got Kathy Bates's agent's information. I don't know how people

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<v Speaker 3>even do this and sent her a book and Kathy

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<v Speaker 3>Bates and signed the book said pursue your dreams. And

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<v Speaker 3>I still have it to this day. And so in

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<v Speaker 3>the makeup trailer, it wasn't the first day Kathy. I

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<v Speaker 3>knew she was going to be around a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>but I brought in the book and I told her

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<v Speaker 3>the story and no.

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<v Speaker 1>But what a cool story. And you still had the.

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<v Speaker 3>Book and I still had the book and uh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And she was coming off Misery and Fry Green to

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<v Speaker 1>May like this, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>This is yeah. She had won the Academy Award for

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<v Speaker 3>sure for misery. I'm not going to remember right now

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<v Speaker 3>what year that was, but she had she had already

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<v Speaker 3>won when she came back. So yeah, that was that

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<v Speaker 3>was that's pretty cool. So I went there and it

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<v Speaker 3>all worked out. I didn't. I didn't go for free.

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<v Speaker 3>Dad did supplement slightly, but but very slightly. And that

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<v Speaker 3>was the deal because of of Emory.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, it was Emory, which I wanted to go

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<v Speaker 2>to a school that did have sports. So I applied

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<v Speaker 2>to Duke and to Carolina and to Northwestern and to Wake.

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<v Speaker 1>And I got into Emory. So that's where I went.

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<v Speaker 3>Really really, that's surprise. I mean Emory. Emory is a

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<v Speaker 3>good school. That's surprising that you got in. If you

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<v Speaker 3>got not in there, especially North Carolina. A'll take anybody

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<v Speaker 3>and he come on, you start their writing and you

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<v Speaker 3>have a little radio show there as well. Is that right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>That was the sports.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was in a fraternity shocker, and we were

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<v Speaker 2>in the Pike House and my roommate was a guy

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Luber, who I still think to this day is

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<v Speaker 2>the funniest person to walk the earth. You know, you've

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<v Speaker 2>got your college friends that you're like, I know you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't go into entertainment, but had you have done that,

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<v Speaker 2>you would be bigger.

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<v Speaker 1>Than Jim Carrey right now.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Like he was that guy and the two

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<v Speaker 2>of us loved doing prank calls, and this was like

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<v Speaker 2>the height of Howard Stern and the whack Pack and

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<v Speaker 2>that they would have their salon Richard Frank and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>we would do print calls. And then the Emery radio station.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like very early on where you can It

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't streaming, but there was a cable access channel that

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<v Speaker 2>was just seen in the dorms and it became a

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<v Speaker 2>thing where once a week on Tuesday nights. We called

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<v Speaker 2>it the Old Crow Show because we would drink Old

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<v Speaker 2>Crow whiskey when we were you know, when we were

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<v Speaker 2>doing the show, and we would prank other people on

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<v Speaker 2>campus and we would do funny, cool voices and characters,

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<v Speaker 2>and eventually it got a little bit of a following

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<v Speaker 2>and it would be on TV too, so people would

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<v Speaker 2>tune in, and you know, it was my first brush

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<v Speaker 2>with like, Okay, this isn't just in my imagination that

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<v Speaker 2>this could happen, Like it is possible, and we do

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<v Speaker 2>have something going here. So I got into radio. I

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<v Speaker 2>never called any sporting events. I had a stupid comedy

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<v Speaker 2>sketch show for three hours once a week, but I

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<v Speaker 2>had the bug.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved entertaining. I loved it.

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<v Speaker 3>You loved it well. And it sounds like by going

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<v Speaker 3>to the ESPN Zone when you were a junior, like

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<v Speaker 3>you have already started thinking about it. So when you graduate,

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<v Speaker 3>that's your first call is you have the card of

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<v Speaker 3>the people at ESPN and you call them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's an amazing you know for all these I get,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you do too. I get hundreds of emails

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<v Speaker 2>from prospective college students. Here are my clips, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you think? And it's like, you just gotta do it.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta do it. You go out there and fail

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<v Speaker 2>and do it. And my story is not glamorous because

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<v Speaker 2>in the One Breath, Yes, I got a look from

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<v Speaker 2>ESPN and it was page two at the time, which

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<v Speaker 2>was like where Bill Simmons was writing and Ralph Wiley

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<v Speaker 2>was writing, and it was this really big site. And

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<v Speaker 2>it was one of the editors who gave me a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of things. But it was freelance and I probably

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<v Speaker 2>wrote one article a month for six months, and those

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<v Speaker 2>articles paid six hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>So you better believe.

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<v Speaker 2>I was living in my parents' house right after college,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm back in Freehold, New Jersey after my dad

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<v Speaker 2>dropped how much money on my college education?

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows to go to Emirate Tratuta School And.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm right back where I was senior year of high school,

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<v Speaker 2>in my same high school bed, going to the same

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<v Speaker 2>you know, college bars I was going.

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<v Speaker 1>To in my hometown.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was really the time where it's like do

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<v Speaker 2>I want to do this or not? Because I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>I could take the LSATs and put that together. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure I could work in marketing somewhere. And I also

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<v Speaker 2>had friends from Emory who are making real money in

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<v Speaker 2>finance and doing some things in the city. So it

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<v Speaker 2>was like this very humbling thing and I would just

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<v Speaker 2>tell anyone you have to stick with it, because I

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<v Speaker 2>wrote those freelance articles and I kept with it and

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<v Speaker 2>it felt like there wasn't going to happen. And then

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<v Speaker 2>eventually Foxsports dot Com reached out to me and it

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<v Speaker 2>was like, we do a full time position years later,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean years later. So it was a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>putting together clips and writing for publications. Freelance went off,

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<v Speaker 2>but as you know in your in your field, the

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<v Speaker 2>Timothy Shamalays are one in a million, you got to

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<v Speaker 2>put the work in like before you become the big star.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying he didn't put the work in, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, like, yeah, very few of

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<v Speaker 2>us are going to be stars at twenty two, So

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<v Speaker 2>you got to put the work in during those years.

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<v Speaker 3>Right at this point in time, you know, having the

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<v Speaker 3>radio show and people laughing, having your improv group. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>and you could talk to now too. You consider yourself

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<v Speaker 3>a journalist or an entertainer?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, Ryan, Because I think I fancy myself a journalist

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<v Speaker 2>because that's where I grew up, and I had the

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<v Speaker 2>different websites I wrote for and the different publications, and

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<v Speaker 2>you had to go through the fact. And my role

0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:20.040
<v Speaker 2>on Good Morning Football and on Fox is that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL insider, right, so I'm the one giving you

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<v Speaker 2>all the information, who's playing, who's not playing, what's happening

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<v Speaker 2>in this free agent contract, who's this team going to draft?

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<v Speaker 2>And I play the role of journalist. But if I'm

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<v Speaker 2>being honest with you, I didn't go through the journalism

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<v Speaker 2>chops of working at the Washington Post and having to

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<v Speaker 2>go investigate local school districts at a small paper.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't go down that road.

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<v Speaker 2>I came from an outside road where I was going

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<v Speaker 2>to put it together and get to where I was

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<v Speaker 2>going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>So I yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Journalists, but gosh, good Morning football. If you watch our show,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say it's far more entertainment than necessarily journalism.

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<v Speaker 3>Right early on you start working for Fox Sports and

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<v Speaker 3>covering stories on Fox News in those early days, was

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<v Speaker 3>there anyone coach player that you met where you were starstruck?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean some of my early interviews on camera,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like watching Chris Farley and the old SNL skits

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<v Speaker 2>talking to McCartney.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, oh, what was it Like?

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<v Speaker 3>That was awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great, great one to go because like it

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<v Speaker 2>was one of those deals where I also wrote for

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<v Speaker 2>GQ magazine. I would do a lot of the player

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<v Speaker 2>profiles and Okay, one of my favorite gigs because you'd

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<v Speaker 2>get a budget, you were allowed to take the player

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<v Speaker 2>out in New York and then you can write what

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember I went out with DeMarcus Ware who

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<v Speaker 2>was a fantastic linebacker for the Dallas Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 3>I just hung out with him, did you.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's seen not the nicest guy in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>He's the nicest guy in the world. And now a

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<v Speaker 3>Hall of famer. I just played with him at the

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<v Speaker 3>American Center. Oh that's so cool, me and DeMarcus and

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<v Speaker 3>Charles Barkley.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, Brian, do you pinch yourself like this?

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<v Speaker 3>It's unbelievable. Yeah. DeMarcus super nice guy. Sorry to interrupt you,

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<v Speaker 3>but anyway, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the thing for the listeners. He's the most one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most ferocious players in the history of the sport.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely menacing outside linebacker. His job was to tackle and

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<v Speaker 2>hurt quarterbacks and then off the field. Is a true

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<v Speaker 2>renaissance man. So he and I we have a date

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<v Speaker 2>to meet at the Soho Grand and this is like

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and five, two thousand and six for breakfast,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I have a assignment for my editor. The

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<v Speaker 2>guy's name was Devin Gordon from GQ, and he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>here's your budget. Do what you want to do with

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<v Speaker 2>DeMarcus and come back with a great, great article for

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<v Speaker 2>the for the fall issue of g Q magazine. And

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<v Speaker 2>DeMarcus ware says, you know what I'd like to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to go antique shopping. I go You couldn't that, Yes, Yes,

0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:11.520
<v Speaker 2>let's go antique shopping. And we spent the day going

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<v Speaker 2>to different antique shops in the village in New York City,

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<v Speaker 2>and along the way, I'm asking him questions about football.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm really getting to know this guy, and I

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<v Speaker 2>remember at the end of it just being like, gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to be your friend, Like can I

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<v Speaker 2>have your number?

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<v Speaker 1>Can we keep in touch?

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<v Speaker 2>Like this guy is like so unique and so one

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<v Speaker 2>of one and such a special person. And then time

0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:33.399
<v Speaker 2>after time I would meet these guys who are in

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<v Speaker 2>the top one percent of the world at what they do,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's hard not just being so in awe of them.

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<v Speaker 2>But the really first few times that I got liked

0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:45.000
<v Speaker 2>is that was when I was on TV and Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Sports was launching a network called Fox Sports One, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was their cable network and it's still around, but

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<v Speaker 2>at the time, it was twenty thirteen, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>like this big moment, and I, at just the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>was just starting to do a lot of TV stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>so I was aside. I went from being a writer

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<v Speaker 2>to a sideline report to kind of a guy who's

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<v Speaker 2>in the studios. And one of my first days on air,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on set and on the set with me, the

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<v Speaker 2>other three people on there are Randy Moss, Brian Urlacker,

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<v Speaker 2>and Rendez Barber, and I swear my hit must have

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<v Speaker 2>been like when they went to me like, so, Peter,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you think I abdo bab bit of abitah

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<v Speaker 2>bit of about and in the green room, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, so, Randy, do you remember when like you

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<v Speaker 2>like faked, pulled down your pants and like Joe Buck

0:21:27.440 --> 0:21:32.120
<v Speaker 2>went nuts and like Randy Moss is like yes, So anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff never gets old. But now I'm

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I speak to Mahomes now or I speak

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<v Speaker 2>to Josh Allen.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I'm fifteen years older than these guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Not the same as it was maybe ten fifteen years

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<v Speaker 2>ago from me when I was talking to the guys

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<v Speaker 2>that that I just wasn't of right.

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<v Speaker 3>You have said before, speaking of Randy Moss, that your

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<v Speaker 3>most unusual job related incident was fishing with Randy for

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<v Speaker 3>three days on Big Bear Lake.

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<v Speaker 1>The greatest assignment ever in the history of sports.

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<v Speaker 3>So this was what were you filming this?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, this is The producer's name was Michael Bloom. And

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<v Speaker 2>Michael had this idea and said, Okay, we've got this

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<v Speaker 2>new football studio crew. We're going to be unrolling, and

0:22:14.320 --> 0:22:16.040
<v Speaker 2>they don't know each other that well. Obviously Moss and

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<v Speaker 2>Erlacker probably know each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Ronde knows it.

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<v Speaker 2>The other guy was Joel Clatt, who now calls college football.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do a preview show. But Randy's greatest passion is

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<v Speaker 2>not football. Randy Moss's greatest passion is fishing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we're.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna play to Randy and say, okay, right, So we

0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:36.879
<v Speaker 2>went to Big Bear Lake. I consider myself Northeast city

0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:39.400
<v Speaker 2>guy everything I had never fished in my life. And

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<v Speaker 2>the show was and I think it was like an

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<v Speaker 2>hour long NFL football preview that might have ran once

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<v Speaker 2>on FS one at three am in the morning, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>one of those deals. But if you find the footage,

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<v Speaker 2>probably the greatest piece of footage ever out there Randy Moss, myself,

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<v Speaker 2>Brian r Lacker, and Joel Clatt on a boat fishing,

0:22:55.720 --> 0:23:00.600
<v Speaker 2>talking about football, and Randy's hauling in huge fish. I mean,

0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:03.560
<v Speaker 2>Randy casts out a line, reels it in and it's

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<v Speaker 2>like bringing back like you know, twenty eight inch this

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<v Speaker 2>and and this and he you know, this is the

0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:08.760
<v Speaker 2>kind of fish that it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And then and what's the word like a magledon. You

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<v Speaker 1>ever heard of a magledon? Is that the word? Like,

0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:16.320
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's like monster from the sea. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's his shark. That's his shark. Right, is a

0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:19.560
<v Speaker 3>real shark?

0:23:19.560 --> 0:23:20.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know.

0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:22.200
<v Speaker 2>I asked Randy because I was like, I'm gonna jump

0:23:22.200 --> 0:23:23.800
<v Speaker 2>in the water, and this big bear like I don't

0:23:23.800 --> 0:23:25.360
<v Speaker 2>give a crap, I'm gonna go jump. So I dive

0:23:25.400 --> 0:23:26.760
<v Speaker 2>in and I'm like, Randy, come in and this I

0:23:26.840 --> 0:23:29.240
<v Speaker 2>just met Randy Moss and he's like, no, no, no, no, no no.

0:23:29.400 --> 0:23:31.360
<v Speaker 2>I saw a documentary on the what is the word

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<v Speaker 2>a magledon? Is that what it's called?

0:23:33.400 --> 0:23:37.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well it's the movie with the make right the

0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:41.040
<v Speaker 3>Man with Ray Wilson by the Shark, Right, That's all

0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:42.760
<v Speaker 3>I can think of, Is that what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Randy's just refusing to go in. We'll not go in

0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:46.000
<v Speaker 1>the water, and I'm like, you know, He's like, I

0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:47.159
<v Speaker 1>know how to swim. I just thought that I don

0:23:47.160 --> 0:23:48.639
<v Speaker 1>want want to swim. I just I'm not gonna know.

0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:50.560
<v Speaker 1>The Magledon's are out there and I'm like this is

0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:52.760
<v Speaker 1>all on film. I'm like, this is incredible. Randy Moss

0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:54.240
<v Speaker 1>refusing to jump out of the boat.

0:23:55.240 --> 0:23:57.720
<v Speaker 2>But it's experiences like that where I'm like, that's the

0:23:57.760 --> 0:24:00.040
<v Speaker 2>greatest I would That's like, you know, you pay he

0:24:00.560 --> 0:24:03.639
<v Speaker 2>guy's paying auctions crazy money to have a dinner with

0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Randy Moss. I got to go fishing for three days

0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:07.520
<v Speaker 2>with them, and Randy was incredible and we've been good

0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:08.240
<v Speaker 2>friends ever since.

0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:14.320
<v Speaker 3>Twenty thirteen, same year, you win your first Sports Emmy

0:24:14.840 --> 0:24:17.560
<v Speaker 3>for Inside the NFL on Showtime. What was the story?

0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:23.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was again young but coming up in the business,

0:24:23.280 --> 0:24:26.040
<v Speaker 2>and I hit it off with a guy named Pete Radovich,

0:24:26.080 --> 0:24:28.879
<v Speaker 2>who at the time was at CBS, but also was

0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:34.240
<v Speaker 2>bringing NFL's Greatest show, Inside the NFL from HBO to Showtime,

0:24:34.320 --> 0:24:36.080
<v Speaker 2>and they rebooted it with a new crew and it

0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:40.800
<v Speaker 2>was James Brown, Chris Collinsworth, Phil Simms, and they brought

0:24:40.840 --> 0:24:44.000
<v Speaker 2>me on as what was known as an editorial contributor,

0:24:44.080 --> 0:24:47.600
<v Speaker 2>so very little airtime, but if Sims needed, Hey, Schreker,

0:24:47.800 --> 0:24:50.080
<v Speaker 2>what's the latest with Cam Newton and Carolina? Like, what's

0:24:50.080 --> 0:24:52.080
<v Speaker 2>going on over there? I was filling him in off camera,

0:24:52.560 --> 0:24:54.959
<v Speaker 2>or if it was the Packers are playing the Saints

0:24:54.960 --> 0:24:57.240
<v Speaker 2>this week? Can someone you know tell me what Brett

0:24:57.240 --> 0:24:59.720
<v Speaker 2>Farre's record was against the Saints when he played there,

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:02.359
<v Speaker 2>Like that kind of stuff, right, But that season in

0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:05.760
<v Speaker 2>twenty thirteen was the start of like social media really

0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:07.440
<v Speaker 2>taking a big role. And I wasn't a huge social

0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:11.160
<v Speaker 2>media guy, but they would bring me on for a

0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:13.920
<v Speaker 2>for a segment and I would read tweets about the show,

0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:17.119
<v Speaker 2>kind of like Jimmy Kimmel's mean two yeah tweets, and

0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:20.320
<v Speaker 2>it was always just shitting on collins Worth and Sims

0:25:20.359 --> 0:25:22.640
<v Speaker 2>and like those guys would respond and we had such

0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:24.199
<v Speaker 2>a good time. And then sure enough I get this

0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:26.040
<v Speaker 2>invite to go to the Emmys as part of the crew.

0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:28.919
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, all right, like you know again, this has

0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:32.560
<v Speaker 2>pinched me stuff. We go and we win Best Weekly Show,

0:25:32.840 --> 0:25:35.520
<v Speaker 2>and to this day it's one of the coolest moments

0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:38.200
<v Speaker 2>I got to be there. We won, We were freaking out,

0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:40.840
<v Speaker 2>and then like six months later, a trophy shows up

0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:44.040
<v Speaker 2>at my studio apartment or one bedroom apartment, and it's

0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:45.800
<v Speaker 2>the biggest thing in my apartment. It's like that in

0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:48.560
<v Speaker 2>a you know, empty gallon of milk and some beer cans,

0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:50.520
<v Speaker 2>and my wife's like, who are.

0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:51.200
<v Speaker 1>We gonna put that thing?

0:25:51.200 --> 0:25:54.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm like I don't know, but we're we're outing it,

0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:58.280
<v Speaker 3>we're keeping it, We're keeping it. Also in twenty thirteen,

0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:02.560
<v Speaker 3>you put on your writers hat Strength of a Champion

0:26:03.080 --> 0:26:06.879
<v Speaker 3>with O Jay Brigatt's tell me a little bit about

0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 3>one why that story needed to be told and why

0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:12.760
<v Speaker 3>you I.

0:26:12.720 --> 0:26:15.320
<v Speaker 2>Wrote a book in twenty eleven with Victor Cruz from

0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:18.280
<v Speaker 2>the Giants. Now, Victor Cruz had this big breakout season,

0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:20.840
<v Speaker 2>won a Super Bowl. So local kid from Patterson, New Jersey.

0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:24.240
<v Speaker 2>I spent three months kind of with Victor with an

0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:26.840
<v Speaker 2>open recorder, and I just like, tell me your life story.

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:29.080
<v Speaker 2>And it was incredible. And this book came on the

0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:31.600
<v Speaker 2>heels of the Giants winning a Super Bowl, Victor Cruz

0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:34.480
<v Speaker 2>being the hottest guy in sports, right, and it's sort

0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:36.639
<v Speaker 2>of number like something on the best seller's list. We

0:26:36.680 --> 0:26:38.280
<v Speaker 2>had a New York Times bestseller And that was my

0:26:38.320 --> 0:26:39.919
<v Speaker 2>first book out of the gates. And I wrote it

0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:42.960
<v Speaker 2>with Victor and I was like, so, so at that point,

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:45.960
<v Speaker 2>I've got this publishing company and want you to write

0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:47.240
<v Speaker 2>what do you want to write?

0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right, what do you want to write?

0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 1>Go write a book on whatever, Like let's go.

0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:54.639
<v Speaker 2>And I had been really touched by a story from

0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:59.119
<v Speaker 2>the Super Bowl Ravens the following year, and the story

0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:01.399
<v Speaker 2>was they had this player who used to play for

0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:03.760
<v Speaker 2>the Ravens back in the early two thousands who was

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:07.920
<v Speaker 2>suffering from als and his name was Oj Brigance, and

0:27:08.200 --> 0:27:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Oj was working for the Ravens when the diagnosis came

0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:15.399
<v Speaker 2>in and obviously it rocked his world, it rocked his

0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:18.000
<v Speaker 2>wife Chandra's world, it rocked everyone's world, and in a

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:20.960
<v Speaker 2>lot of situations you'd imagine, Okay, he's gonna take some

0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:25.320
<v Speaker 2>time away. But the Ravens continued to employ Oj, and

0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:27.640
<v Speaker 2>as his diagnosis would go from one year to two

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:30.159
<v Speaker 2>years to three years, he would eventually lose the ability

0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:32.320
<v Speaker 2>to speak, he'd eventually be able to lose.

0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:35.280
<v Speaker 1>The ability to walk. And Oj would have this motorized

0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:37.640
<v Speaker 1>vehicle that he would take to the building every single

0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:40.879
<v Speaker 1>day with assistants from nurses, and he was able to

0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:43.720
<v Speaker 1>talk to the players through a machine where he would

0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 1>use his eyes to type out words on a machine

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 1>and then an automated voice would go to them, well,

0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:52.639
<v Speaker 1>sure enough, OJ is in the building and he's you know.

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Ray Lewis would talk to him for hours.

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 2>Every day, and Ed Reid would rally around him, and

0:27:57.760 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 2>the Ravens go on this incredible miracle super Bowl run

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:04.560
<v Speaker 2>where Joe Flacco goes into Indian Apple Or goes into

0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:08.240
<v Speaker 2>New England and beats Tom Brady, goes into Denver and

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:10.840
<v Speaker 2>beats Peyton Manning and they go on this great super

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:13.240
<v Speaker 2>Bowl run and the story of the season is incredible.

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:15.960
<v Speaker 2>But I wanted to tell the story from OJ's eyes,

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:19.280
<v Speaker 2>so we wrote this book and it's it's with Oj

0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 2>Bergants And although the Victor Cruz one is the best seller,

0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:26.919
<v Speaker 2>the OJ book is truly one of my most I

0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:29.320
<v Speaker 2>guess my gift, like to his family and to him,

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:32.240
<v Speaker 2>but also what was something I'm most proud of. And

0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's sold many copies, to be honest,

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:36.120
<v Speaker 2>and it wasn't a bestseller. It didn't get a ton

0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:38.840
<v Speaker 2>of you know, love on the list and all that stuff,

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 2>but that book meant everything to me and Oj to

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 2>this day in twenty twenty three, that was ten years.

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Ago, is still alive, Jesus.

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Suffering from als and I still correspond with him and

0:28:48.680 --> 0:28:51.160
<v Speaker 2>his wife Chandra, and it's and he still goes to

0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:52.160
<v Speaker 2>the Ravens facility.

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:53.320
<v Speaker 1>It's incredible stuff.

0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 3>Well, I tell you something, Uh, you're going to sell

0:28:56.840 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 3>another copy. I you know, in doing this research talking

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:01.920
<v Speaker 3>to you, I just found out about this book and

0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 3>looked into him a little bit. You know. It's weird,

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 3>you know, the relationships that you have through this business,

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:14.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, and as you know, I have similar relationships

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 3>with weird people that you would never expect. If there

0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:21.200
<v Speaker 3>is a team still currently and I used to tell

0:29:21.280 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 3>him all the time that I hate more than any

0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 3>team in the world, it's the San Francisco forty nine ers.

0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:31.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I just but I had a relationship with

0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:39.560
<v Speaker 3>Dwight Clark, who also suffered from ALS and unfortunately succumbed

0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:46.360
<v Speaker 3>to it. And watching that happen, that disease, it's just horrible.

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:50.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's just no other word to say, just horrible.

0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 3>And I'm going to ask you, because I'm ignorant, is

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:56.480
<v Speaker 3>there a connection? Do you think?

0:29:56.960 --> 0:29:59.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know the scientifically, they haven't put the connection together.

0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 1>And there's between football obviously, Yeah, there's.

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:06.560
<v Speaker 2>Millions of people who suffer from ALS that didn't play football.

0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 2>If anything, these gentlemen Steve Gleeson, Dwight Clark, O J. Brigance,

0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 2>the fact they have these platforms to write books. Gleason

0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:19.280
<v Speaker 2>wrote an amazing book. Dwight Clark was maybe the greatest

0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:23.320
<v Speaker 2>ambassador for you know, what could possibly be done towards research.

0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 2>The fact that they have these platforms and these fan

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:29.280
<v Speaker 2>bases and these teams, it could be, you know, a blessing.

0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:32.000
<v Speaker 2>And they're truly the ones who are serving raising awareness

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:34.400
<v Speaker 2>around ALS because I didn't know much about the disease.

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 2>It's the strength that these families have, especially when these

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:40.280
<v Speaker 2>men are in their thirties and forties and these women

0:30:40.320 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 2>are going through it.

0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:43.640
<v Speaker 1>I know I don't and you and I have a

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:44.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of fun.

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Together, but this is like a very serious topic to

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 2>me and thinking I'm very passionate about and having written

0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:50.600
<v Speaker 2>this book, it changed me in a lot of ways.

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:53.280
<v Speaker 2>And watching OJ's strength, you put it in perspective what

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 2>they're going through when I start complaining about whatever I

0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:56.440
<v Speaker 2>got in my day to day.

0:30:56.880 --> 0:31:01.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, strength of a champion. I am going out myself

0:31:01.880 --> 0:31:04.320
<v Speaker 3>and read it and I encourage anyone who doesn't know

0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:07.960
<v Speaker 3>about ALS. It sounds like an amazing story check that

0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:16.200
<v Speaker 3>out as well. In twenty sixteen August the first of

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 3>twenty sixteen, Oh, We're like this is the anniversary right

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:28.360
<v Speaker 3>right now when we're recording this. Good Morning Football premieres

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:32.080
<v Speaker 3>on the NFL network. You have been on Good Morning

0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:36.520
<v Speaker 3>Football since its inception. How do you deal with the schedule?

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:41.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so our show air seven to ten am every

0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:47.239
<v Speaker 2>day during football season, not during football season, when the

0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 2>furthest thing you're thinking about is football season. We are

0:31:50.760 --> 0:31:55.600
<v Speaker 2>on the NFL network every morning and they I think

0:31:55.920 --> 0:31:59.000
<v Speaker 2>a fellow actor friend of yours, Paul Rudd, said it

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:01.200
<v Speaker 2>best he was on our show. I like your show

0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:03.240
<v Speaker 2>because it's not the news in the morning, and I'm like,

0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:06.640
<v Speaker 2>thank you, because that's it's just light, it's fun and

0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 2>it's football. And Brian, we have been so blessed and

0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:11.840
<v Speaker 2>fortunate to have you not only on as a guest,

0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:15.400
<v Speaker 2>but you served as a host for several days on

0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 2>our show and did an outstanding job.

0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:22.000
<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Peter. I have to tell you, and this

0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:24.120
<v Speaker 3>is not this is not a joke. I've said this

0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 3>to other people, not publicly. If it wasn't for the schedule,

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:32.040
<v Speaker 3>I might try to come for your job.

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Honestly, I get it to come for your job.

0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:40.840
<v Speaker 3>I love doing it. It's so much fun. But guys,

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 3>this is not so. I mean part of it is

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 3>admittedly that I'm West Coast, so my body and my

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:51.840
<v Speaker 3>brain is on the West Coast. It's hard to to

0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:56.280
<v Speaker 3>change that. But it's like four thirty or five in

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:58.360
<v Speaker 3>the morning, you're on before in the coast, you're up

0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:00.960
<v Speaker 3>at four in the morning, and while you're doing I'll

0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:04.680
<v Speaker 3>just put it this way, while you're doing your morning routine,

0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 3>whatever that may be, filling the blank in your head,

0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 3>whatever your morning routine is, you are on a conference

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:18.080
<v Speaker 3>call where the entire show is being talked about the

0:33:18.120 --> 0:33:21.240
<v Speaker 3>first day when I was hosting it, I was afraid

0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 3>of getting in the elevator. Now, I guess the elevators

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 3>work really well there in New York and you don't

0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:28.960
<v Speaker 3>have to get off the phone. And I mean like

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:32.160
<v Speaker 3>you are on the phone on a conference call, walking

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 3>through every segment of the show as you're getting ready,

0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:38.200
<v Speaker 3>as you're coming down the elevator. And again the first

0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 3>day that the drivers know it, they they pick you

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:43.480
<v Speaker 3>up in the morning because it's really early and you

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:46.480
<v Speaker 3>got to go through the thing. It's down World Trade Center.

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:50.200
<v Speaker 3>They like know what I'm They open the car door.

0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:52.120
<v Speaker 3>They don't say a word. They know that you're on

0:33:52.200 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 3>this conference call. It's the call, it's our Bible and

0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:58.600
<v Speaker 3>you and you, And basically what happens to give you

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 3>a perspective is they're like, okay, everybody, that's it. We'll

0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:05.920
<v Speaker 3>see you guys soon. And start at seven and you

0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 3>hang up and remarkably, you're outside of the building and

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:12.359
<v Speaker 3>then you you walk in the building and go up

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:14.360
<v Speaker 3>and you know, get a little makeup.

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:15.400
<v Speaker 1>It's a wild routine.

0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:17.759
<v Speaker 3>It's up before you're.

0:34:17.040 --> 0:34:19.120
<v Speaker 2>Up before thirty in the morning. You're on this call

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:21.239
<v Speaker 2>at five thirty in the morning, you're in makeup chair.

0:34:21.320 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 2>By six thirty in the morning, you're getting dressed, and

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:24.920
<v Speaker 2>all the while you got to think of someone to

0:34:24.960 --> 0:34:28.000
<v Speaker 2>say for three hours. But Brian, I don't I imagine

0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:30.360
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the listeners of this podcast probably aren't.

0:34:30.719 --> 0:34:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Everyday Good morning football.

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:33.799
<v Speaker 2>My biggest thing that I preach people because I meet

0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:35.400
<v Speaker 2>people all the time and they're like, we do I do, Oh,

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:37.680
<v Speaker 2>I do the football show on NFL Network, the morning Show,

0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:39.719
<v Speaker 2>And they go, oh, I'm not a football fan. You don't

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:41.440
<v Speaker 2>have to be a football You do our show, our

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 2>show with entertainment. So my colleague Kyle Brandt is hysterical.

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Jamie Erdall, our host is wonderful. Jason mccordy, a former player,

0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:50.879
<v Speaker 2>has more pop culture references than any of us.

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:54.279
<v Speaker 1>Like it is, it is about what's like we've spent

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:55.040
<v Speaker 1>so much time time.

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:57.239
<v Speaker 2>I interviewed Aaron Rodgers this past weekend and I asked

0:34:57.280 --> 0:34:59.440
<v Speaker 2>him about Oppenheimer, and he had seen it and he

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:01.799
<v Speaker 2>had thoughts. We spent more time talking about that than

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Rogers and the Jets, Like Rogers' thoughts on Oppenheimer is

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:08.920
<v Speaker 2>where we focus. So it is a fun show. There's trivia,

0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:10.800
<v Speaker 2>there's games, there's all sorts of stuff.

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:12.719
<v Speaker 1>So it gets tough.

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:15.080
<v Speaker 2>In May and June, and again it's all relative. It's

0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:17.360
<v Speaker 2>my dream job, so I'm happy. But when there's literally

0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:19.520
<v Speaker 2>no football news and they're like, all right, for three hours,

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:22.400
<v Speaker 2>go fill the air with hypathetically, you have to just

0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:25.080
<v Speaker 2>realize that, Okay, you're putting the work in now, this

0:35:25.160 --> 0:35:27.600
<v Speaker 2>is why they pay it. And then once football season comes,

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:29.360
<v Speaker 2>the stories are kind of easier to talk about.

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:33.200
<v Speaker 3>What do you think is changed the most in the

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:38.760
<v Speaker 3>NFL in your time? Let's just say on Good Morning Football. Yeah,

0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:40.480
<v Speaker 3>the last decade.

0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:43.080
<v Speaker 2>I think the players have a lot more power even

0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:45.799
<v Speaker 2>in the last decade than they did in the previous one.

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 2>And it's not because of the collective bargaining agreement. I

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 2>think it's because of the rise of a the way

0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:55.480
<v Speaker 2>society is moving towards maybe some marginalized voices more than

0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:59.400
<v Speaker 2>it's been in decades past, but more so the free

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:03.719
<v Speaker 2>access at they have to social media, to Instagram, to

0:36:03.840 --> 0:36:07.279
<v Speaker 2>a platform where if a player has something he wants

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:10.480
<v Speaker 2>to voice about his team, or about the league, or

0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:14.959
<v Speaker 2>about society in general, they don't need to call a

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:18.320
<v Speaker 2>press conference and invite reporters, they don't need a podium.

0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:19.960
<v Speaker 2>They can go on TikTok and do it and it's

0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:22.480
<v Speaker 2>gonna have the same exact impact. So I think the

0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:25.920
<v Speaker 2>player of voice has gotten a lot louder, And whether

0:36:25.920 --> 0:36:28.120
<v Speaker 2>that's a threat to the NFL or not, it's the

0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:29.880
<v Speaker 2>way that things are going in the world, and we

0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 2>have to listen to those voices because they have a platform,

0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:35.520
<v Speaker 2>just as the league does and the owners who put

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:36.279
<v Speaker 2>together the game.

0:36:36.840 --> 0:36:39.440
<v Speaker 3>Do you still love the sport as much as you

0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:41.120
<v Speaker 3>did when you were a kid.

0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:44.200
<v Speaker 2>My gosh, dude, I get jaded a lot. And when

0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 2>you find me Week eleven, Week twelve, and I've been.

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:48.719
<v Speaker 2>I fly to la every weekend for Fox and I

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:51.200
<v Speaker 2>do their studio show from New York, and it's brutal,

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:53.520
<v Speaker 2>and I'll I'll sometimes be in a miserable mood and

0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:55.400
<v Speaker 2>it's cold in New York and someone spits on me

0:36:55.440 --> 0:36:57.960
<v Speaker 2>on the subway and you know, a car drives by

0:36:58.040 --> 0:37:00.360
<v Speaker 2>and there's a subway puddle or does a big puddle

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:03.440
<v Speaker 2>of ring. But I was at Jets camp over the weekend.

0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:04.760
<v Speaker 2>It was the first time I've been at a football

0:37:04.760 --> 0:37:08.000
<v Speaker 2>event since probably the combine of the draft whatever it is.

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:10.800
<v Speaker 2>And I was on the field and this sounds so cheesy,

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:13.960
<v Speaker 2>so you know, roll your eyes whatever. I've been doing

0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:17.360
<v Speaker 2>this twenty years. But the grass was just freshly cut.

0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:21.000
<v Speaker 2>The guys are coming out, everyone's got their the best

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:23.680
<v Speaker 2>shape that they've been in a year. And Aaron Rodgers

0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:26.319
<v Speaker 2>comes out, and the Jets fans, who are drunk with

0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:30.160
<v Speaker 2>optimism right now, are chanting Aaron Rogers and I look

0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:32.640
<v Speaker 2>to my producer, Christine, and I'm like, it's not the

0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:35.239
<v Speaker 2>best job in the world. I get to do this

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 2>for a living, so yes, I love it. Everyone always

0:37:38.560 --> 0:37:40.600
<v Speaker 2>asks me, like, what's your favorite? The Super Bowl? To me,

0:37:40.680 --> 0:37:42.439
<v Speaker 2>once a year. If you can go at any time,

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:45.200
<v Speaker 2>you must go. It's the greatest spectacle and it never

0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:47.640
<v Speaker 2>gets old. During the national anthem this year, I was

0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:51.560
<v Speaker 2>ten feet behind Chris Stapleton and I shed a tear

0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:53.560
<v Speaker 2>because I was like, this is the most beautiful thing.

0:37:53.600 --> 0:37:54.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm here for it.

0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Somehow, in my amazing dreams, I am on the field

0:37:58.040 --> 0:37:59.920
<v Speaker 2>for the Super Bowl National Anthem and I get to

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:02.560
<v Speaker 2>talk about the game, and at the end of the day,

0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:05.439
<v Speaker 2>that's my job as providing for my family. So yes,

0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:07.799
<v Speaker 2>I love it so much and I love the stories,

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:09.359
<v Speaker 2>and it hasn't gotten old.

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:29.720
<v Speaker 3>Before we dive into football a little more. You also

0:38:29.760 --> 0:38:32.440
<v Speaker 3>do cover some other sports from time to time, the

0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:37.360
<v Speaker 3>NBA Olympics. What's your favorite thing to cover besides the NFL.

0:38:37.640 --> 0:38:39.840
<v Speaker 2>I love the NBA playoffs and I love the NBA

0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:44.360
<v Speaker 2>playoffs when the Knicks are like a team that's willing

0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:48.000
<v Speaker 2>to be talked about on television, like it's been dead

0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:50.239
<v Speaker 2>for twenty years in New York with basketball nets haven't

0:38:50.280 --> 0:38:52.719
<v Speaker 2>been good. This past spring was really cool. I got

0:38:52.719 --> 0:38:54.279
<v Speaker 2>to go to a few games. I am not a

0:38:54.320 --> 0:38:56.680
<v Speaker 2>celebrity so on celebrity row, but you better believe my

0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 2>eyes are like, wait a second, that's Hanka's area. Okay,

0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:02.760
<v Speaker 2>wait Saron Rodgers, Oh wait, that's Jessica Alba.

0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh is that turtle from Entourage? Yes? It is, like

0:39:06.280 --> 0:39:07.440
<v Speaker 1>it's so cool.

0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:09.400
<v Speaker 2>When New York is alive and it brings out the

0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:12.080
<v Speaker 2>audience because I missed that in my twenties and thirties.

0:39:12.080 --> 0:39:15.480
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't a thing. But it's like the Laker games,

0:39:15.520 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 2>like it feels like an event.

0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:18.880
<v Speaker 1>So I love that. I love when the Knicks are relevant.

0:39:19.239 --> 0:39:22.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, it's so funny. There was a period

0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:26.359
<v Speaker 3>of time where I was in New York a lot, yeah,

0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:31.400
<v Speaker 3>and the people at MSG were just really big fans

0:39:31.440 --> 0:39:33.560
<v Speaker 3>of the office. And I met a person I'm not

0:39:33.600 --> 0:39:35.480
<v Speaker 3>going to give his name out, I want that name

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:38.160
<v Speaker 3>came out up to me and was like, whenever you

0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:43.240
<v Speaker 3>want to come now. Sometimes people say this as how yeah, yeah, whatever,

0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:46.399
<v Speaker 3>but I that's you know, I was there a lot,

0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:48.440
<v Speaker 3>so I was like, yeah, I would, you know, love

0:39:48.480 --> 0:39:50.480
<v Speaker 3>to go to a Knicks game and went and yet

0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:56.120
<v Speaker 3>there is kind of that MSG down there. Find a

0:39:56.200 --> 0:39:58.960
<v Speaker 3>Yankees hat and put on the Yankees hat and it's like,

0:39:59.120 --> 0:40:02.360
<v Speaker 3>suddenly you are New York. I don't know, it's a

0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:05.880
<v Speaker 3>weird I can't even describe mysteria. Oh bizarre.

0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it feels like it's the only show in town.

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:12.479
<v Speaker 2>It's a Broadway adjacent building, it's the Madison Square Guard

0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:15.279
<v Speaker 2>and you know, Spike Lee is still there, and like

0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:17.960
<v Speaker 2>for years it was Woody Allen and Matthew Modine and

0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Speaker 2>like you had like just institutions at these Knicks games.

0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:24.200
<v Speaker 2>And then to think, okay, it's coming back with today's

0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:27.320
<v Speaker 2>like today's guys and today's gals that are relevant.

0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:28.920
<v Speaker 1>It's cool. It felt like an event.

0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:31.320
<v Speaker 2>So from a basketball standpoint, yeah, I love covering the

0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:34.760
<v Speaker 2>NBA playoffs, but to me, going to the NBA playoffs

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:36.759
<v Speaker 2>this past spring, that had a really cool feel. And

0:40:36.800 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 2>if you want to pass along that guy's name after

0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:41.160
<v Speaker 2>the podcast, that's great because I'm the schmuck buying tickets

0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:42.920
<v Speaker 2>for three hundred dollars and sitting in the rafters and

0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:44.280
<v Speaker 2>screaming on the top of my lungside.

0:40:44.400 --> 0:40:46.000
<v Speaker 1>That's Emily Radakowski down there.

0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:51.160
<v Speaker 3>I've kind of asked this once, but I'm going to

0:40:51.200 --> 0:40:53.240
<v Speaker 3>ask it in a different way. I mean, look, you've

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:58.840
<v Speaker 3>written for tons of publications ESPN, Fox, Sports, GQ, Esquire,

0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:01.719
<v Speaker 3>blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Are you a

0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:04.279
<v Speaker 3>writer or do you prefer broadcast?

0:41:04.920 --> 0:41:10.160
<v Speaker 2>I am a writer, that is where because everything that

0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:13.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing on the show, it comes from my writing skills.

0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Am I writing background? And how I'm presenting things and

0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:20.400
<v Speaker 2>how I'm interviewing people. It's the writing side of it. Broadcaster, sure,

0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:25.520
<v Speaker 2>But to me writer first, second, third, fourth, TV Guy fifth.

0:41:28.400 --> 0:41:31.880
<v Speaker 3>Your conversation with Aaron Rodgers got quite a bit of

0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:35.839
<v Speaker 3>press the last few days. Tell me about that. How

0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:37.920
<v Speaker 3>was he? Does it seem like in a good mood?

0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Can I show you something? I know this isn't on

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:42.080
<v Speaker 1>video for some of but I want to show you this.

0:41:42.239 --> 0:41:45.320
<v Speaker 3>No, that's all right. Oh this is a jersey, a

0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:49.040
<v Speaker 3>Rogers eight jersey. Did he give it to your Jubi? Oh?

0:41:49.160 --> 0:41:52.840
<v Speaker 2>We didn't give it to me. A purchase was made.

0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:54.959
<v Speaker 2>That's a gift I'm going to give to my friend

0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:57.080
<v Speaker 2>for his birthday. But I'll tell you what. I have

0:41:57.120 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 2>the Rogers Jets jersey in my hand. Here's the deal.

0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:02.120
<v Speaker 2>I'll give you the longest short of it. Sean Payton

0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:05.080
<v Speaker 2>is a friend of mine and a former Fox Sports colleague,

0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:06.960
<v Speaker 2>but a long time renegated of the league who was

0:42:07.040 --> 0:42:09.440
<v Speaker 2>coach of the Saints, And he came out a couple

0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:12.920
<v Speaker 2>of days earlier and in so many words, said, the

0:42:12.960 --> 0:42:16.760
<v Speaker 2>previous coach of the Denver Broncos is named Nathaniel Hackett,

0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:19.160
<v Speaker 2>and he says, I don't know Nathaniel Hackett, but this

0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:22.120
<v Speaker 2>coaching job that he did was an embarrassment. And to

0:42:22.160 --> 0:42:23.960
<v Speaker 2>sum it up, he really aired it out on the

0:42:24.000 --> 0:42:26.200
<v Speaker 2>former coach of the Broncos. As Sean Payton is starting

0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:29.400
<v Speaker 2>a second chapter with the Broncos, Nathaniel Hackett is one

0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:32.360
<v Speaker 2>of Aaron Rodgers' closest friends and is now the offensive

0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:35.600
<v Speaker 2>coordinator for the New York Jets. So Rogers hadn't spoken

0:42:35.600 --> 0:42:38.200
<v Speaker 2>since Sean Payton made his comments. And you know, Aaron

0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:40.160
<v Speaker 2>Rodgers doesn't do interviews with everybody. He'll do them with you,

0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:43.000
<v Speaker 2>He'll do him with Pat McAfee. I think in the

0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:45.960
<v Speaker 2>past he's done stuff with the guys at Barstool. And

0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:48.280
<v Speaker 2>part of my take, Pete Holmes did a very famous

0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:51.400
<v Speaker 2>interview with him once and Rodgers, as you know, is

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:57.359
<v Speaker 2>one of the most authentic, curious, intelligent athletes he will

0:42:57.360 --> 0:43:00.520
<v Speaker 2>ever come across. But he isn't fans of everybody, and

0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:02.680
<v Speaker 2>if he ain't a fan of yours, he ain't given

0:43:02.719 --> 0:43:04.560
<v Speaker 2>me the time of day. I didn't know where I

0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:06.600
<v Speaker 2>stood with Rodgers. I'm on the show every single day.

0:43:06.640 --> 0:43:08.880
<v Speaker 2>I give objective analysis. I think he's one of the

0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:10.120
<v Speaker 2>greatest players of all time.

0:43:10.239 --> 0:43:11.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I've ever talked to.

0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:12.719
<v Speaker 2>Anything negative about But I didn't know if He's gonna

0:43:12.719 --> 0:43:17.279
<v Speaker 2>grant me an interview. But I've always appreciated his independence

0:43:17.480 --> 0:43:22.279
<v Speaker 2>and his curiosity about the world. So the practice ends,

0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:25.360
<v Speaker 2>he's not any interviews, and I'm on the NFL network

0:43:25.400 --> 0:43:28.080
<v Speaker 2>from there, and I give him that look and I'm like, yeah,

0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:30.399
<v Speaker 2>do you think maybe, and he's giving me the nod,

0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:31.279
<v Speaker 2>like all right, I'm gonna come over.

0:43:31.320 --> 0:43:32.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, all right, this is the interview. I'm gonna

0:43:32.920 --> 0:43:33.719
<v Speaker 1>get it. I'm gonna get it.

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:36.880
<v Speaker 2>And then Jason Garrett, the former coach of the Cowboys,

0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:39.920
<v Speaker 2>literally from Mars. I didn't see him coming from anywhere.

0:43:39.920 --> 0:43:42.520
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know he was at practice, walks right in

0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:44.359
<v Speaker 2>front of me and starts talking to Rogers and they

0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:46.279
<v Speaker 2>have like a twenty minute conversation, and.

0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:47.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, there goes my interview with Rodgers.

0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:49.880
<v Speaker 2>There's no way he's gonna do a twenty minute conversation

0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:53.640
<v Speaker 2>with Jason Garrett, fellow quarterback, fellow guy who played in

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:55.120
<v Speaker 2>the league for twenty years coaching the league.

0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:57.560
<v Speaker 1>They went through each other, they had great battles against Outher.

0:43:57.640 --> 0:43:59.360
<v Speaker 2>There's no way Rogers is gonna finish that and then

0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:02.800
<v Speaker 2>give me the time day Still, sure enough, finishes with Garrett,

0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:06.160
<v Speaker 2>comes over, taps me up. And I did something that Brian,

0:44:06.200 --> 0:44:08.680
<v Speaker 2>I think you'd appreciate. When I interviewed Aaron Rodgers. I

0:44:08.680 --> 0:44:10.799
<v Speaker 2>didn't come right away and say, all right, so, what

0:44:10.800 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 2>are your thoughts on the Sean Payton comments.

0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:14.759
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I saw by the way.

0:44:15.080 --> 0:44:18.040
<v Speaker 1>I started off with how you like in New York.

0:44:18.080 --> 0:44:21.759
<v Speaker 2>I saw you at the Tony's Broadway and he said,

0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:26.560
<v Speaker 2>I've seen Wicked and I saw Back to the Future

0:44:25.600 --> 0:44:29.080
<v Speaker 2>and he said it's a mussy and I'm like, this

0:44:29.160 --> 0:44:31.680
<v Speaker 2>isn't the We're not talking about parade or you know,

0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:35.120
<v Speaker 2>Sydney Bluestein's window here, We're talking about Back to the Future,

0:44:35.160 --> 0:44:38.399
<v Speaker 2>the musical, and I'm all right. And then we talked

0:44:38.400 --> 0:44:40.320
<v Speaker 2>about Oppenheimer a little bit. He gives me his favorite

0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Christopher Nolan movie, which is prestige. Now you can tell you, Rogers,

0:44:43.760 --> 0:44:46.399
<v Speaker 2>you know this. He could hang in any crew, any

0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:49.520
<v Speaker 2>Hollywood crew, any New York crew, and talk movies.

0:44:49.800 --> 0:44:52.000
<v Speaker 1>He's a cinephile. The guy loves film.

0:44:52.120 --> 0:44:54.399
<v Speaker 2>He shows up to the Tony's not to be seen,

0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 2>but because he loves live musical theater. Like this is

0:44:57.560 --> 0:45:00.480
<v Speaker 2>that kind of guy. And then I ease into football.

0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:02.160
<v Speaker 2>And then I just said this, and I think this

0:45:02.280 --> 0:45:04.200
<v Speaker 2>is a good question for any journalist out there. You

0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:06.120
<v Speaker 2>don't just give him a yes or no, and you

0:45:06.120 --> 0:45:08.879
<v Speaker 2>don't say talk about I said, we saw the Sean

0:45:08.920 --> 0:45:12.560
<v Speaker 2>Payton comments. Those are in the past. Why don't you

0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:17.400
<v Speaker 2>tell the audience about your coach, Nathaniel Hackett, And Rogers

0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:19.960
<v Speaker 2>started off talking about how Hackett is arguably the greatest

0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:22.280
<v Speaker 2>coach he's ever had. He's one of his dearest friends,

0:45:22.560 --> 0:45:26.399
<v Speaker 2>he's a family man, he is a lifelong coach, and

0:45:26.640 --> 0:45:29.640
<v Speaker 2>then he took it himself and gave the quote of

0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:33.799
<v Speaker 2>the summer and basically said, Sean Payton should keep my

0:45:33.920 --> 0:45:35.640
<v Speaker 2>coach's name out of his mouth.

0:45:36.040 --> 0:45:39.200
<v Speaker 1>And that's like Will Smith talking. I'll like, keep my

0:45:39.280 --> 0:45:42.280
<v Speaker 1>coach's name out of your mouth. And that went crazy

0:45:42.320 --> 0:45:42.840
<v Speaker 1>and viral.

0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:45.800
<v Speaker 2>And you know, fortunate enough for my vanity and my ego,

0:45:45.880 --> 0:45:47.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm in the shot when he says it, I'm the

0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:49.279
<v Speaker 2>one asking him. So ESPN had to show my mug

0:45:49.320 --> 0:45:51.399
<v Speaker 2>for two days, and I take that.

0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:52.600
<v Speaker 1>That's free publicity for me.

0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:55.400
<v Speaker 2>But we finished it up and Rogers and I tapped

0:45:55.400 --> 0:45:58.480
<v Speaker 2>it up and I'm like, gosh, that was that was awesome.

0:45:58.600 --> 0:46:00.279
<v Speaker 2>That's awesome when you get a guy like that and

0:46:01.000 --> 0:46:04.040
<v Speaker 2>he's candid and he can talk as much as he

0:46:04.080 --> 0:46:05.560
<v Speaker 2>wants or as little as he wants, but he gives

0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:09.279
<v Speaker 2>you the time and the effort and defends his guy

0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:10.000
<v Speaker 2>and I loved it.

0:46:11.440 --> 0:46:13.560
<v Speaker 3>Well. You know, he and I have spent quite a

0:46:13.560 --> 0:46:16.360
<v Speaker 3>bit of time together. He seems to me to be

0:46:16.480 --> 0:46:20.720
<v Speaker 3>in a very good mood. He seems to be very happy,

0:46:20.920 --> 0:46:24.960
<v Speaker 3>very positive. I believe he said I don't have to

0:46:25.000 --> 0:46:27.080
<v Speaker 3>pretend to be a journalist, so don't quote me on this.

0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:30.319
<v Speaker 3>I believe he was at every but two of the

0:46:30.680 --> 0:46:37.160
<v Speaker 3>off season practices and seems to be enjoying his new teammates. One, two,

0:46:37.200 --> 0:46:40.479
<v Speaker 3>three or four. Where do the Jets finish this year?

0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:44.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to spoil it. I'm feeling I'm feeling

0:46:44.200 --> 0:46:45.440
<v Speaker 2>really bullish on the Jets.

0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:46.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to.

0:46:47.000 --> 0:46:48.839
<v Speaker 2>I gotta do all sorts of predictions and we're coming

0:46:48.920 --> 0:46:50.560
<v Speaker 2>up with that. Yeah, I don't know if they win

0:46:50.600 --> 0:46:53.319
<v Speaker 2>the regular season title of the division. The Buccaneers didn't

0:46:53.320 --> 0:46:56.719
<v Speaker 2>win the regular season crown in the NFC South the

0:46:56.760 --> 0:46:58.520
<v Speaker 2>year that they won the Super Bowl. It happens time

0:46:58.520 --> 0:47:00.480
<v Speaker 2>and time again. It just he had to get the time.

0:47:01.040 --> 0:47:02.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's gonna be a long adjustment period

0:47:03.000 --> 0:47:05.359
<v Speaker 2>for Rogers. And if you're listening at home, you're like, well,

0:47:05.360 --> 0:47:07.080
<v Speaker 2>didn't Brady go to a new team and win right away?

0:47:07.120 --> 0:47:09.400
<v Speaker 2>And didn't Matthew Stafford. They both did, and they were

0:47:09.400 --> 0:47:12.640
<v Speaker 2>playing with coaches they'd never met before. He and Hackett,

0:47:12.880 --> 0:47:15.480
<v Speaker 2>this coach that he's with, He's won two MVPs with

0:47:15.520 --> 0:47:17.920
<v Speaker 2>this guy. He and Allen Lazard, they have a long history.

0:47:18.000 --> 0:47:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Randall Cobb was there when I was there on Sunday

0:47:19.920 --> 0:47:20.680
<v Speaker 2>and Brian, I'm.

0:47:20.560 --> 0:47:21.759
<v Speaker 1>Like, Coby's on this team.

0:47:21.760 --> 0:47:24.320
<v Speaker 2>I've almost forgot that Cobby's on this team. Like Rogers

0:47:24.400 --> 0:47:27.040
<v Speaker 2>not only is coming, he's coming with his boys and

0:47:27.120 --> 0:47:28.520
<v Speaker 2>with his coach. I don't think it's gonna be a

0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:31.840
<v Speaker 2>long adjustment period. The schedule is tough, and it's questions

0:47:31.840 --> 0:47:34.920
<v Speaker 2>about the offensive line, and their defense is untested. But

0:47:35.480 --> 0:47:38.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm not counting out an angry, angry Aaron Rodgers. And

0:47:38.160 --> 0:47:39.600
<v Speaker 2>when I say angry, I don't mean he's got a

0:47:39.640 --> 0:47:41.200
<v Speaker 2>bad soul right now. I just think he's got a

0:47:41.239 --> 0:47:43.120
<v Speaker 2>chip on his shoulder. He wants to prove some things.

0:47:43.560 --> 0:47:46.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know the last time something like this happened,

0:47:46.719 --> 0:47:48.919
<v Speaker 3>I think he won two MVPs in a row.

0:47:49.239 --> 0:47:50.839
<v Speaker 1>Yep, and they drafted Jordan Love.

0:47:51.080 --> 0:47:54.080
<v Speaker 3>You said it, not me. Yeah, it'd be very interesting.

0:47:55.000 --> 0:47:58.680
<v Speaker 3>Your favorite team in the NFC this year. I know

0:47:58.800 --> 0:48:01.879
<v Speaker 3>you're still putting it together or for your exclusive announcements

0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:03.359
<v Speaker 3>on Good Morning Football, but.

0:48:03.960 --> 0:48:04.840
<v Speaker 1>The world is waiting.

0:48:05.280 --> 0:48:07.840
<v Speaker 2>But NFC, I'm going to go to I don't I

0:48:07.840 --> 0:48:10.040
<v Speaker 2>don't know where your loyalties lie with the Packers without

0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Rogers there, but I'm gonna go with one of their rivals.

0:48:11.960 --> 0:48:13.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say the Detroit Lions of the team,

0:48:14.000 --> 0:48:15.759
<v Speaker 2>and I know everyone's hot on them right now on

0:48:15.880 --> 0:48:19.080
<v Speaker 2>a title since fifty seven. They got a really good

0:48:19.160 --> 0:48:22.760
<v Speaker 2>young team, a really good offensive coordinator and Ben Johnson.

0:48:22.800 --> 0:48:24.879
<v Speaker 2>I always here's if you want to get the keys

0:48:24.920 --> 0:48:27.440
<v Speaker 2>to the puzzle here. I always the last five years,

0:48:27.680 --> 0:48:30.680
<v Speaker 2>I very humbly have predicted the right Superworld champion for

0:48:30.760 --> 0:48:32.279
<v Speaker 2>the season. I'm not saying the Lions are gonna win.

0:48:32.640 --> 0:48:37.440
<v Speaker 2>I always look at offensive teams and offensive coaches and

0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:39.600
<v Speaker 2>I think this Ben Johnson, who's the offensive coordinator of

0:48:39.600 --> 0:48:41.719
<v Speaker 2>the Lions, is a whiz kid. He's thirty seven years old,

0:48:41.760 --> 0:48:42.719
<v Speaker 2>and what they were doing at the end of season

0:48:42.760 --> 0:48:44.960
<v Speaker 2>last year was revolutionary stuff. I think they pick up

0:48:45.000 --> 0:48:47.040
<v Speaker 2>right where they left off. I think the Lions are

0:48:47.080 --> 0:48:49.360
<v Speaker 2>going to be significantly better than they've ever been before.

0:48:49.640 --> 0:48:52.239
<v Speaker 2>And I think they might be talking you know NFC title.

0:48:52.000 --> 0:48:53.680
<v Speaker 1>That good interesting.

0:48:54.840 --> 0:48:57.640
<v Speaker 3>So you're a believer even though they start. I mean,

0:48:57.680 --> 0:49:00.839
<v Speaker 3>I have to tell you, I was shocked that they

0:49:00.920 --> 0:49:02.680
<v Speaker 3>open the season at Kansas City.

0:49:02.680 --> 0:49:05.080
<v Speaker 1>It's the ultimate honor, right, it is the league. The

0:49:05.160 --> 0:49:06.400
<v Speaker 1>league could pick any team.

0:49:06.239 --> 0:49:08.320
<v Speaker 2>To play the Chiefs, and they chose the Detroit Lions,

0:49:08.360 --> 0:49:10.239
<v Speaker 2>the team that everyone on Thanksgiving is like, oh, really,

0:49:10.239 --> 0:49:11.240
<v Speaker 2>we got to watch the Lions.

0:49:12.040 --> 0:49:13.799
<v Speaker 1>The League chose them this year.

0:49:14.200 --> 0:49:16.719
<v Speaker 3>In the morning game, the morning game when you're ever

0:49:16.760 --> 0:49:21.000
<v Speaker 3>one on, no one's too drunk yet, the game is

0:49:21.040 --> 0:49:24.120
<v Speaker 3>coming on and it's the Lions. And against the Bears

0:49:24.200 --> 0:49:26.160
<v Speaker 3>or somebody.

0:49:25.239 --> 0:49:27.879
<v Speaker 1>Mitchell Trubisky versus the Lions thirteen years in a row.

0:49:28.239 --> 0:49:31.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, interesting anybody else?

0:49:31.840 --> 0:49:35.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think the Niners and Eagles are step ahead

0:49:35.360 --> 0:49:36.960
<v Speaker 2>of everybody and they're going to bring it right back.

0:49:37.000 --> 0:49:38.600
<v Speaker 2>I think those are the three power teams of the

0:49:38.680 --> 0:49:40.600
<v Speaker 2>NFC and the rest is a wide open. I really

0:49:40.640 --> 0:49:42.440
<v Speaker 2>do see the Lions in that conversation.

0:49:42.920 --> 0:49:45.520
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's interesting. The forty nine ers just called

0:49:45.520 --> 0:49:48.920
<v Speaker 3>me yesterday about trying out for their quarterback position.

0:49:49.120 --> 0:49:50.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you might be the healthiest.

0:49:51.320 --> 0:49:52.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I don't know if you heard

0:49:52.600 --> 0:49:54.200
<v Speaker 3>they were, They've been.

0:49:54.520 --> 0:49:55.640
<v Speaker 1>They've been right now, they say block.

0:49:55.680 --> 0:49:57.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we're doing this on August August first, whatever

0:49:57.760 --> 0:50:00.799
<v Speaker 2>we're doing. This rock party is apparently healthy. But if

0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:03.960
<v Speaker 2>you watched football, the Niners quarterback position is as cursed

0:50:03.960 --> 0:50:05.200
<v Speaker 2>as any position in sports.

0:50:05.520 --> 0:50:10.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's gonna be an interesting year. AFC teams, other

0:50:10.120 --> 0:50:10.960
<v Speaker 3>AFC teams.

0:50:11.040 --> 0:50:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Gosh, isn't it great this year? So the NFC is

0:50:13.000 --> 0:50:14.520
<v Speaker 2>kind of weird this year. There's not a lot of

0:50:14.520 --> 0:50:17.680
<v Speaker 2>power teams. It could be anybody's. The AFC is so loaded.

0:50:18.320 --> 0:50:21.080
<v Speaker 2>There's three heavies obviously the Bengals, the Bills, and the

0:50:21.160 --> 0:50:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl champion Chiefs. I'm gonna put two more teams

0:50:24.640 --> 0:50:25.879
<v Speaker 2>that I think are going to be really good this year.

0:50:25.880 --> 0:50:27.480
<v Speaker 2>I think the Jets are gonna be really good this year.

0:50:28.000 --> 0:50:29.560
<v Speaker 2>And then the other team that I think is going

0:50:29.640 --> 0:50:31.600
<v Speaker 2>to be excellent that I haven't heard a lot of

0:50:31.640 --> 0:50:34.120
<v Speaker 2>buzz on is the LA Chargers, and every year we

0:50:34.160 --> 0:50:36.200
<v Speaker 2>hear that. But I think Justin Herbert this is his

0:50:36.280 --> 0:50:39.279
<v Speaker 2>coming out party. I love again the Keys to the

0:50:39.280 --> 0:50:42.800
<v Speaker 2>Puzzle offensive coaches. They just hired Kellen Moore from the Cowboys,

0:50:42.840 --> 0:50:45.239
<v Speaker 2>who was there the last few years. He's the offensive coordinator.

0:50:45.520 --> 0:50:48.080
<v Speaker 2>He's gonna be working with Justin Herbert, and they've got

0:50:48.120 --> 0:50:51.080
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of skyscrapers at receiver. I think the Chargers

0:50:51.080 --> 0:50:52.600
<v Speaker 2>are going to be really good this year, might actually

0:50:52.640 --> 0:50:53.120
<v Speaker 2>be better.

0:50:52.920 --> 0:50:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Than the Chiefs in the AFC West. Wow, I'm talking.

0:50:56.600 --> 0:50:58.319
<v Speaker 2>Look, you don't get paid like I get paid the

0:50:58.320 --> 0:51:00.000
<v Speaker 2>big bucks without making a big.

0:51:00.040 --> 0:51:03.000
<v Speaker 3>Are you pick? Are you picking the Chargers to win

0:51:03.080 --> 0:51:03.480
<v Speaker 3>the West?

0:51:03.520 --> 0:51:05.280
<v Speaker 1>I might? I might? Interesting?

0:51:05.800 --> 0:51:09.400
<v Speaker 3>Wow? Uh you mentioned it before? You do your five

0:51:09.520 --> 0:51:12.879
<v Speaker 3>mornings at Good Morning Football in New York. You get

0:51:12.880 --> 0:51:15.120
<v Speaker 3>on a plane every week to go to l A

0:51:15.280 --> 0:51:17.040
<v Speaker 3>want Why do they need you in LA.

0:51:17.320 --> 0:51:19.480
<v Speaker 1>That's a great question. That's a great question.

0:51:19.600 --> 0:51:21.760
<v Speaker 2>I just signed an extension, so I'm not going anytime

0:51:21.800 --> 0:51:24.520
<v Speaker 2>soon where I'm not but there. Look you're hearing me

0:51:24.560 --> 0:51:26.279
<v Speaker 2>on this podcast. You're like, this guy must have a

0:51:26.320 --> 0:51:31.120
<v Speaker 2>lot of caffeine. The argument is that my presence in studio. Uh,

0:51:31.280 --> 0:51:33.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm a I'm a catalyst. I bring energy, I bring uh,

0:51:33.719 --> 0:51:35.840
<v Speaker 2>I bring juice. So I love doing it and that

0:51:35.960 --> 0:51:39.160
<v Speaker 2>show is a really fun crew. And you know it's

0:51:39.239 --> 0:51:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Carisa Thompson who does the Amazon show as well the

0:51:41.719 --> 0:51:44.359
<v Speaker 2>pregame show, but Michael Vick, Charles Woods, and we had

0:51:44.360 --> 0:51:46.280
<v Speaker 2>Sean Payton for years and we're going to be adding

0:51:46.280 --> 0:51:47.680
<v Speaker 2>someone new. It hasn't been announced yet.

0:51:47.680 --> 0:51:50.200
<v Speaker 1>But like, I love it when I'm there and I

0:51:50.239 --> 0:51:51.000
<v Speaker 1>love doing.

0:51:50.760 --> 0:51:52.160
<v Speaker 2>It and my job is to kind of give you

0:51:52.160 --> 0:51:54.239
<v Speaker 2>the insights but also bus chops a little bit.

0:51:54.880 --> 0:51:57.240
<v Speaker 1>But you're right in a in a zoom world.

0:51:57.280 --> 0:51:59.920
<v Speaker 2>It was one year COVID where I was doing it remotely,

0:52:00.000 --> 0:52:02.200
<v Speaker 2>and I'll be honest, I wasn't as good as I

0:52:02.239 --> 0:52:04.719
<v Speaker 2>am when I'm in studio, Like I was like doing

0:52:04.719 --> 0:52:07.359
<v Speaker 2>it from like outer space. The producers are like, you're

0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:09.600
<v Speaker 2>much better in studiom, Like I get it, and I

0:52:09.680 --> 0:52:12.480
<v Speaker 2>understand it. And yet, gosh, when I'm sitting there at

0:52:12.480 --> 0:52:14.759
<v Speaker 2>the Delta gate and they're like it's actually a ninety

0:52:14.800 --> 0:52:16.719
<v Speaker 2>minute delay, and I'm looking around and someone's asking me

0:52:16.719 --> 0:52:18.400
<v Speaker 2>who they should start on their fantasy team, There's nothing

0:52:18.440 --> 0:52:20.000
<v Speaker 2>I would love more than seeing my catch.

0:52:22.080 --> 0:52:27.359
<v Speaker 3>Oh well, the new season is coming. Your time is

0:52:27.560 --> 0:52:30.880
<v Speaker 3>heating up. The busiest man in football is I mean,

0:52:30.920 --> 0:52:32.839
<v Speaker 3>the Giants are going to be good. The Giants are

0:52:32.840 --> 0:52:33.279
<v Speaker 3>going to be.

0:52:33.760 --> 0:52:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Interesting, relevant, relevant, if nothing else.

0:52:37.840 --> 0:52:40.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm so excited. I can't wait to come back on

0:52:40.640 --> 0:52:41.919
<v Speaker 3>your program at some point.

0:52:42.120 --> 0:52:45.160
<v Speaker 2>Can I also plug my podcast, which, Oh you gotta

0:52:45.200 --> 0:52:48.880
<v Speaker 2>have you on. It's called It's really Good, and it's

0:52:49.080 --> 0:52:52.360
<v Speaker 2>called The Season, and I'm so proud of it, and

0:52:52.400 --> 0:52:53.479
<v Speaker 2>I want you on soon.

0:52:53.719 --> 0:52:58.359
<v Speaker 3>The Season, I hear it is very very successful. Now,

0:52:58.360 --> 0:53:01.719
<v Speaker 3>you had Flying Coach with Sean McVay that was also

0:53:02.000 --> 0:53:06.160
<v Speaker 3>very successful, talking about your relationship with Sean McVay. But yes,

0:53:06.320 --> 0:53:09.320
<v Speaker 3>now the season, how do you find the time?

0:53:10.840 --> 0:53:12.319
<v Speaker 1>That one is like that one?

0:53:12.520 --> 0:53:14.239
<v Speaker 2>So I'm not a part of an ensemble crew on

0:53:14.239 --> 0:53:16.439
<v Speaker 2>two different shows, but that one is like my deal.

0:53:16.920 --> 0:53:18.759
<v Speaker 2>So it's like my chance to do my own thing.

0:53:18.760 --> 0:53:21.239
<v Speaker 2>And I think you could probably appreciate that. Where hey,

0:53:21.280 --> 0:53:24.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm not just NFL and Center. I also haven't I listen.

0:53:24.440 --> 0:53:26.359
<v Speaker 2>I look at your podcast guests, and you know I've

0:53:26.360 --> 0:53:29.160
<v Speaker 2>been listening to your podcast Back to the Office ones, yes,

0:53:29.280 --> 0:53:32.440
<v Speaker 2>And it's you bring in everybody, and you connect with everybody,

0:53:32.520 --> 0:53:34.520
<v Speaker 2>and you and I are kindred spirits in that way,

0:53:34.520 --> 0:53:37.000
<v Speaker 2>and that I'm not just talking to football players and gms.

0:53:37.480 --> 0:53:39.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking to actors, comedians and talking to people who

0:53:39.960 --> 0:53:40.840
<v Speaker 2>are difference makers.

0:53:40.880 --> 0:53:41.919
<v Speaker 1>And it's had a lot.

0:53:41.840 --> 0:53:44.719
<v Speaker 2>Of success and some of the most highest listened episodes

0:53:44.880 --> 0:53:47.280
<v Speaker 2>are from people who aren't necessarily in the football world.

0:53:47.320 --> 0:53:49.400
<v Speaker 2>So right, really proud of it. And where do I

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<v Speaker 2>find the time? You find the time?

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<v Speaker 3>You know that you find the time the season Peter

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<v Speaker 3>Scheger available wherever you hear your podcast. You're also you

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<v Speaker 3>have another job.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, do you like this, I'm just showing

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<v Speaker 1>it your book and.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got my book right there. Welcome to Dunner mifflind

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<v Speaker 3>love it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a coffee table.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I mean, although I think I gave it to you,

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<v Speaker 3>so I didn't that was free. You also you have

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<v Speaker 3>another job, John Krasinski stalker. Now you and John are neighbors.

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<v Speaker 2>I I live a block away from the dude, and

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<v Speaker 2>I know him as Jim from the office.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously, this is pre Jack Ryan, this is pre everything.

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<v Speaker 2>And I and I run sometimes when you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>after the show and ever, and I've seen him walking

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<v Speaker 2>his dog and I want to go up to him

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<v Speaker 2>and not fanboycause I have no interest in being a fan.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to be like I'm Brian's boy, like

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<v Speaker 2>Brian's my guy, like we have a connection. But I've

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<v Speaker 2>got too much respect for him. And you know, he's

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<v Speaker 2>a Brooklyn Heights resident, and we don't mess with Brooklyn

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<v Speaker 2>Heights residence like Vegas you don't, or whatever, fight club like,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's understood. When Daniel Craig walks by, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't say, oh my god, I love you. And James

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<v Speaker 2>Bond like you just kind of let him buy and

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<v Speaker 2>you not. So we are quote unquote neighbors. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think he knows how exist well.

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<v Speaker 3>He is a sports fan, so you might be surprised

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<v Speaker 3>about that. You have my permission to go tell him.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give you a good one there for me. I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to, but I didn't want to go off to

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<v Speaker 2>him at all. I felt like it was weird by

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<v Speaker 2>the way he's jacked. He's a great looking guy, Like

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<v Speaker 2>there is nothing that's very plastic looking. Man.

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<v Speaker 3>He is very sexy.

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<v Speaker 1>I was at the local coffee shop.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a coffee shop called Joe Coffee which is in

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<v Speaker 2>our hood, and like everyone goes through there, and Matt

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<v Speaker 2>Damon was in there and he had a Boston Red

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<v Speaker 2>Sox hat and I'm like, all right, do you say

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<v Speaker 2>something to Matt Damon or you just let Matt Damon be.

0:55:41.320 --> 0:55:45.359
<v Speaker 2>Of course, as a fellow celebrity, I'm joking. I know,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't bother him. You let him be. But then

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<v Speaker 2>Damon looked at me and gave me the nod, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think he knew who I was and I was

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<v Speaker 2>about to engage, and then he was gone out of

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<v Speaker 2>my life forever.

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<v Speaker 1>So that friendship never materialized either.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he gave you the nod, like like you know

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<v Speaker 2>who you are?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what that's what you do. You

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<v Speaker 3>just not you just do the nod.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved you in I love you in rounders like

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<v Speaker 1>I was given a real good reference.

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<v Speaker 3>Goodwill Hunting. Yeah, I have loved you since Goodwill Hunting. Listen.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so great to see you. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna I'm gonna be on the podcast. I'm also

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<v Speaker 3>gonna come back at Are.

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<v Speaker 1>You in New York any tom soon? Are you in

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<v Speaker 1>the city.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure that I am so I will uh, I

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<v Speaker 3>will let you know and to be continued, congratulations on

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<v Speaker 3>all the success and uh yeah, I look, by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>don't be don't be afraid to text when you have

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<v Speaker 3>that insider information. It makes me look smart, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I will.

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<v Speaker 2>Jamiir Gibbs, that's your fantasy sleeper of the year. He's

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<v Speaker 2>a first round pick from the Detroit Lions. They're gonna

0:56:55.200 --> 0:56:57.680
<v Speaker 2>use him like Deebo Samuel's used in San Francisco. That

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<v Speaker 2>is a That is your fantasy tip, Jamiir Gibbs. And

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<v Speaker 2>on that note, Brian, I'll say farewell. Look, honestly, you're

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<v Speaker 2>one of my favorite guys. You've been so kind to

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<v Speaker 2>me and I'm so honored to be on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I listen every week so means a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate you. Thank you so much, Jamiir Gibbs, all

0:57:15.719 --> 0:57:17.440
<v Speaker 3>of you listening, this is going to help me win

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<v Speaker 3>the Office Fantasy League. All right, thank you, my friend,

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, buddy, Peter as always great talking to you

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<v Speaker 3>on my show this time. I'll see you on yours

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<v Speaker 3>very soon. And I hope at maybe a game or

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<v Speaker 3>five this season, maybe up in Green Bay, who knows,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe New York, Vegas, LA. The choices are limitless. And

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<v Speaker 3>to everyone listening, thank you. If you like what you hear,

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<v Speaker 3>would you please do me a favor and review us

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<v Speaker 3>at Off the Beat. And if you want to hear more,

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<v Speaker 3>well just come back next week because I'll be here

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<v Speaker 3>I hope you will as well. Until then, everybody, have

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<v Speaker 3>a great week. Off the Beat is hosted and executive

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<v Speaker 3>produced by me Brian Baumgartner, alongside our executive producer Ling Lee.

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<v Speaker 3>Our senior producer is Diego Tapia. Our producers are Liz Hayes,

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<v Speaker 3>Hannah Harris, and Emily Carr. Our talent producer is Ryan

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