WEBVTT - Showdown in Motor City | The Beatdown Podcast | Washington Commanders | NFL

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on, y'all. This is a divisional edition of

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<v Speaker 1>the Beatdown podcast. I am your host, senior writer for

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<v Speaker 1>the Washington Commanders, Zach Selby. Last week I said, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if we're going to be here or not.

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<v Speaker 1>We're recording these podcasts like every day of our last.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of like it a little bit. And the

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<v Speaker 1>Commanders are also playing like it's their last because they

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<v Speaker 1>are advancing to the divisional round after the dink from

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<v Speaker 1>Zane Gonzalez over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to defeat them

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three to twenty wild game. But as always with

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<v Speaker 1>the Commanders, especially over the last month and a half

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<v Speaker 1>or so, it seems like that's just the way they

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<v Speaker 1>play and that's where they live.

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<v Speaker 2>But either way they are going to be playing.

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<v Speaker 1>They never one seeded Detroit Lions heading into this weekend

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<v Speaker 1>on Saturday at eight o'clock on Fox, it is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be I think, by far, the Commander's biggest challenge

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<v Speaker 1>of the year. This This Ben Jonson offense is electric, dynamic,

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<v Speaker 1>and just about every single sense of the word defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe not doesn't put up the statue would you would

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<v Speaker 1>want at some points, but they are very physical, very

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<v Speaker 1>symbolic of the culture. Dan Campbell is put up there

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<v Speaker 1>in Detroit and it is going to be quite the matchup.

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<v Speaker 1>And no matter what, if the Commanders do somehow pull

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<v Speaker 1>off a win here, they will have most certainly earned

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<v Speaker 1>that spot in the NFC Championship. And how are they

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<v Speaker 1>going to do that? How are they going to advance there? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that is what we will be discussing today. With me,

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<v Speaker 1>we have the undefeated Candy Waller, who joins us from

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<v Speaker 1>Booie TV. Handy, how are you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing great. I was doing a whole lot of

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<v Speaker 3>woo in the background when you remind me that I'm undefeated.

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<v Speaker 4>So but yes, all is well cold, but all as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, very cold. I feel like I need to bring

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<v Speaker 1>out some like introduction music here. And your contestant is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be David Harrison, who covers the Commander for

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<v Speaker 1>Forced Illustrated. David, how are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing good?

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<v Speaker 5>Feeling as good as Washington was when they went into

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<v Speaker 5>Philly that ten and oh night Monday night football.

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<v Speaker 2>The undefeated team's about to go down.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh yes, I remember that game too. That was,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, definitely one of the top five games I

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<v Speaker 1>think I've ever had to cover for this team. Definitely

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<v Speaker 1>a good example of how the unexpected can definitely happen here.

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<v Speaker 1>And guys listening, uh, you know, they know the deal

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<v Speaker 1>by now, questions points, winners, losers. I have to decide

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<v Speaker 1>the winner. And with that, all of that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>let's jump right into it here, and let's start off

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<v Speaker 1>with the biggest challenge I think for the Commanders, which

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be Detroit's offense. Right, and as I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned at the top of the show, Ben Jonson has

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<v Speaker 1>that unit humming their top at unit in just about

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<v Speaker 1>every single major category here. Looks like they're second in

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<v Speaker 1>over and overall yards per game, their second in passing.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry Goff has been playing out of his mind, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best seasons you've had of his career. They're

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<v Speaker 1>putting out, you know, forty fifty points and just blow

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<v Speaker 1>these teams away in a lot of ways. They're very

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<v Speaker 1>creative on offense, and they are also very aggressive in

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<v Speaker 1>another way that is very sibolic of Dan Campbell's style.

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<v Speaker 2>There.

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<v Speaker 1>They go for the fourth down a lot. They they

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<v Speaker 1>play like they're behind, as Joe Witz said, a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and it normally works out for them, and it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a big challenge for the commanders, who also

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're one of the best and most efficient

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<v Speaker 1>fourth down teams is here over the last two decades

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<v Speaker 1>or so. So it's going to be, you know, no punch,

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<v Speaker 1>just vibes on Saturday. So David, we'll start with you here,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to ski more like I'm belaeble these

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<v Speaker 1>is offense defense, but like I think there's more of

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<v Speaker 1>a general question for both sides of the ball. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what is the best way for Washington to counter this

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<v Speaker 1>ultra aggressive style that Detroit has on offense?

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<v Speaker 5>Honestly, man, I think the best thing for the Washington

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<v Speaker 5>Matters to do this weekend is just be themselves. I

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<v Speaker 5>think a team like the Detroit Lions because of how

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<v Speaker 5>aggressive they are and you know, they like to pull

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<v Speaker 5>some recreation on offense sometimes and do all these types

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<v Speaker 5>of things and bring these blitzes that are designed to

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<v Speaker 5>obviously put pressure on the quarterback and me.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we went up against the Minnesota Vikings as.

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<v Speaker 5>Basically all they did the Troy Lions, and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>play the pressure on Sam Darnold and make improve that

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<v Speaker 5>he can beat us.

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<v Speaker 2>And unfortunately for the Vikings, he couldn't do it.

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<v Speaker 5>I think a lot of teams start to get out

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<v Speaker 5>of their own their own methods. They start to kind

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<v Speaker 5>of change who they are and try to think that

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<v Speaker 5>what we need to match the Lions, we need to

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<v Speaker 5>be just as clever as the Lions. And I don't

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<v Speaker 5>think this Washington Bears team needs to do that. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't think they're gonna do that. I think they're securing

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<v Speaker 5>their identity. They know who they wanted to be from

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<v Speaker 5>the jump, and all the guys have kind of gotten

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<v Speaker 5>on board with what dan Quinn wanted this team to be,

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<v Speaker 5>and they just do what got you here. Be consistent

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<v Speaker 5>as you possibly can, be aggressive when the moment calls

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<v Speaker 5>for you to be aggressive, and ultimately just play smart

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<v Speaker 5>situational football. Be in your fit on defense when you're

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<v Speaker 5>supposed to be there. Be in your zone when you're

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<v Speaker 5>supposed to be there. Don't get too wrapped up around

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<v Speaker 5>well I'm going around, Saint Brown is running across my

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<v Speaker 5>face even though I'm supposed to have this area.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to make sure he doesn't get the ball.

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<v Speaker 5>Next saying, you know, Sam Laporta, right in the space

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<v Speaker 5>you're supposed to be in running for thirty yards. So

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<v Speaker 5>I think that's the key is don't get you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we talked about the environment, but don't get wrapped up

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<v Speaker 5>in your opponents to the point where you start playing

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<v Speaker 5>football differently.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a really good point. Cliff even brought that up

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<v Speaker 1>in his presser on the sutle of the points if

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<v Speaker 1>the day that the days are getting very like getting

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<v Speaker 1>mixed up because we're playing on Saturday, so everything is

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<v Speaker 1>pushed back a little bit. But during his presser he

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned how you don't really ever want to get out

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<v Speaker 1>of who you are because of you know, like he

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<v Speaker 1>needs talking with Aaron Lynn in this case, but it starving.

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<v Speaker 1>It works for the other side of the ball too,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't you never want to get too caught up

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<v Speaker 1>in what's going on, what they're doing. Yet to get

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<v Speaker 1>focused on what you're doing and stay and stay with

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<v Speaker 1>say you're laying in terms of who you are. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that can be amblematic of the entire team. Candy

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<v Speaker 1>will switch over you and I ask you the same question

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<v Speaker 1>here is like I said, this, this detrot this Detroit

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<v Speaker 1>offense is super aggressive all the time. So what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think they can do to counter that, not only

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<v Speaker 1>on defense, but also maybe a little bit on offense

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<v Speaker 1>as well.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the big name of the game here for

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<v Speaker 4>the Washington Commanders is to do something that they have

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<v Speaker 4>been really really good at and really smart at, and

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<v Speaker 4>that is controlling the time of possession. When they're winning

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<v Speaker 4>the time of possession battle, they win right so like

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<v Speaker 4>straight up, and that is going to take this Washington

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<v Speaker 4>Commanders defense to finally meet a goal that Dan Quinn

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<v Speaker 4>and Joe Wait Junior have been talking about all season long,

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<v Speaker 4>and that is the turnover goal of three takeaway. They're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna have to get that football back. The only way

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<v Speaker 4>you're gonna stop this Lions offense is to not have

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<v Speaker 4>them on the field straight up. The running game is

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<v Speaker 4>too vicious, it's too mean, it's too dynamic, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>a multitude of players that can that can make plays

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<v Speaker 4>on that offense. They may be down at least one

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<v Speaker 4>offensive lineman the on the Lion's side, but other than that,

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<v Speaker 4>keep them off the field right. They are super aggressive,

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<v Speaker 4>they are super efficient and effective in what they do,

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<v Speaker 4>so while they can get that football back, and of

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<v Speaker 4>course the Commander's offense themselves be efficient and effective and

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<v Speaker 4>control that kind of possession.

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<v Speaker 3>They will be successful on Saturday Night.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the Commanders, they do have that three turnover goal.

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<v Speaker 1>They've they've gotten closed a couple of times this year,

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<v Speaker 1>but they have yet to have turnovers in a single game.

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<v Speaker 1>They come up with two against Carolina Panthers, Pittsburgh Steelers,

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<v Speaker 1>the Tansey Titans, and the Philadelphia Eagles, but hadn't hit

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<v Speaker 1>that three mark yet. It'll be interesting to see what

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<v Speaker 1>happens there. But David, you covered the Tampa Buccaneers for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time, and it seems like the game plan

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<v Speaker 1>for the Bucks that Washington hell is very similar to

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<v Speaker 1>what they can put together for the Lions here. So

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of just you know, getting that aggressive style

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<v Speaker 1>off the field here for Detroit's offense, Like, do you

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<v Speaker 1>do you borrow a lot of that from from from

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<v Speaker 1>where you have going into Tampa?

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<v Speaker 2>I think you surely do.

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<v Speaker 5>You know. I think a lot of what the Washington

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<v Speaker 5>Bearers did against the Buccaneers, they the intent on keeping

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<v Speaker 5>the lid, on making the Buccaneers, you know, throw all

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<v Speaker 5>their punches. You don't want to let them land a

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<v Speaker 5>haymaker and get a knock down, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the first round or whatever, you want to make them

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<v Speaker 5>jab their way to the end zone, and then when

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<v Speaker 5>you get down to those scoring positions, you want to

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<v Speaker 5>try to tighten.

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<v Speaker 2>Up as much as possible. It's it's kind of interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 5>I did a little bit of research looking into the Lions' losses,

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<v Speaker 5>but then also looking into some of their more narrow victories,

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<v Speaker 5>their one score margin victories, and essentially what I came

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<v Speaker 5>up with this is somewhat anecdotal, right, because every game

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<v Speaker 5>has different context. But at the same time, if you

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<v Speaker 5>can prevent the Detroit Lions from having touchdowns on sixty

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<v Speaker 5>percent of their scoring drift, right, So if they have

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<v Speaker 5>five scores, four scores, three scores, whatever it is, if

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<v Speaker 5>you can prevent sixty percent or more of those from

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<v Speaker 5>being touched downs, you're gonna have a chance to win.

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<v Speaker 5>And we know that this Washington Commander's team is going

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<v Speaker 5>to have that chance to win. So or when they

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<v Speaker 5>have a chance to win, more often than not, they're

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<v Speaker 5>gonna pull off the victory. Right, So, you give up yards,

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<v Speaker 5>if you give up if you give up passing yards.

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<v Speaker 2>The key is not give up the explosives that lead

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<v Speaker 2>to touchdowns, not just explosives in general, but.

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<v Speaker 5>The scoring explosives get into the red zone and then

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<v Speaker 5>try to tying down a little bit. The Comanders didn't

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<v Speaker 5>have the greatest red zone defense in the world, but

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<v Speaker 5>they did keep the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, interestingly enough to

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<v Speaker 5>that sixty percent mark. So if you keep the Lions

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<v Speaker 5>from scoring from outside the red zone and then hold

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<v Speaker 5>them to that sixty percent mark in the red zone, obviously,

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<v Speaker 5>like Candy said, getting takeaways always the optimal plan, but

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<v Speaker 5>as long as you can keep them to field goals.

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<v Speaker 5>Because the interesting name about Dan Campbell, he gets a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit more aggressive in the postseason. We saw that

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<v Speaker 5>last year, a little bit to his own demise. That's

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<v Speaker 5>just kind of who he is. So you get them

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<v Speaker 5>in the red zone and you force them into fourth downs,

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<v Speaker 5>there's gonna be opportunities there where they go for it.

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<v Speaker 5>And to that three turnover point, Joey Junior said just yesterday,

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<v Speaker 5>turnover on downs. That's a turnover, So it doesn't cows

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<v Speaker 5>a turnover in the in the stat box, but that's

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<v Speaker 5>a turnover to him and that might be one of

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<v Speaker 5>the ways you get one of those three takeaways.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's it's then Shay, I keep bringing up

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<v Speaker 1>these things from Cliff because they do kind of apply

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<v Speaker 1>to both to both sides here, and he said, you

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<v Speaker 1>know they're super aggressive and that, well, that does give

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<v Speaker 1>you give them some positive plays every now and again.

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<v Speaker 1>It does alviously give you the opportunity to hit your

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<v Speaker 1>own positive plays as well, because there's gonna be some

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<v Speaker 1>open spots there, and I think I think that's absolutely true.

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<v Speaker 1>So hey, IFO we move on to the next question here,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you about like Marshall Lattimore and

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<v Speaker 1>all this. Obviously, he didn't have the game that you

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<v Speaker 1>would want future Holiday Hall of Fame inducteam Mike Evans

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<v Speaker 1>here had ninety three yards all seven of his catches,

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<v Speaker 1>so definitely not a game they would want. But I

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<v Speaker 1>would imagine he's going to play a pretty big key

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<v Speaker 1>role here against I'm on Ross and Brown, who has

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<v Speaker 1>twelve touchdowns, twelve hundred yards this year, one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen receptions, really really great player. But in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>just staying aggressive, do you think that being able to

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<v Speaker 1>lock up Amon raan man coverage a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>is going to allow that even the line for Washington

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<v Speaker 1>to be a little more aggressive and hope we put

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<v Speaker 1>bresh on Jered Goff, who was, like I said earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>has just been very accurate with the ball this year.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, I think one of the things when I was

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<v Speaker 4>looking at this matchup, in this game overall, there were

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<v Speaker 4>some similarities to me in the Commander's game against the Ravens,

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<v Speaker 4>just because there's multiple ways that this Lion's team can

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<v Speaker 4>beat you. We have a good, solid quarterback. Not that

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<v Speaker 4>I'm comparing Jerry Goff to Somelamar Jackson, but it's good, solid,

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<v Speaker 4>great play that Jared Goff has been doing since he's

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<v Speaker 4>been in Detroit. You have a great run game, right,

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<v Speaker 4>and you have receivers right. And so I remember distinctly

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<v Speaker 4>that game Joe Wick Junior feeling like the offense.

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<v Speaker 3>The Commander's offense, have done enough to win that game.

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<v Speaker 4>But there's four specific plays that if the defense had

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<v Speaker 4>not had done what they were supposed to do, they

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<v Speaker 4>would have won that football game.

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<v Speaker 3>Who they did not.

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<v Speaker 4>Have in that Baltimore Ravens game was a Marshawn Lattism, right,

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<v Speaker 4>So now you have a Marshawn Lattimore. It's almost like

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<v Speaker 4>go back to the film, go back to the tape,

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<v Speaker 4>go back to those moments. If you had had a

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<v Speaker 4>Marshawn Lattimore, what would you have done differently and what

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<v Speaker 4>could have happened to alleviate some of those early plays

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<v Speaker 4>by Jay Flowers in the game, right, Because you saw

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<v Speaker 4>that shift happen in the second half of that Ravens game,

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<v Speaker 4>but the first half was like, oh my gosh, the

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<v Speaker 4>dvs are just the struggling. But like I said, you

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<v Speaker 4>didn't have that key component of a Marshaan Lattimore, So

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<v Speaker 4>how can you strategically ensure that with a stronger piece

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<v Speaker 4>in Marshawn Now we all know he's still dealing with

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<v Speaker 4>a hamstring thing, right, it's not necessarily one hundred percent,

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<v Speaker 4>but just his mentality and just if they're strategic and

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<v Speaker 4>bringing in that safety help, we're appropriate. I'm always going

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<v Speaker 4>to say a great way to help your dbs in

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<v Speaker 4>getting pressure up front the defensive line, got to get

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<v Speaker 4>your golf on the ground, got to get more pressure

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<v Speaker 4>up front. That's always helped to your DBS. But I

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<v Speaker 4>just continue to feel like in that game, they didn't

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<v Speaker 4>have a Marshawn Lattimore. You do now, So what are

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<v Speaker 4>those specific plays where you can ensure his play is

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<v Speaker 4>highlighted and it doesn't end up in DPIs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that has been you know a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a you know, an issue. I would say, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not even really an issue, just because that's the way

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<v Speaker 1>he plays and you love the competitiveness and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're right, I mean the pass Russians and the

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<v Speaker 1>coverage they do play very you know, they play well

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<v Speaker 1>hand in hand together, and I think you're gonna need

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<v Speaker 1>both your any both against this Lin's offense because, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, they play like they're behind at all times

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<v Speaker 1>and you can't you can't have any mistakes regardless. But

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to move on to the next question here.

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<v Speaker 1>I will give you both two points. I'll light the

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<v Speaker 1>points you were making Candy about the town possession and

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<v Speaker 1>Lattimore David. I'll like the points about you know, Stayton

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<v Speaker 1>who true to who Washington is, and also the point

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<v Speaker 1>you're making by Tampa Bay. But Katy, since you brought

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<v Speaker 1>up the town possession, I want to swift, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>stay on you here and talk about the Commanded's run game,

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<v Speaker 1>which has not been you know, as great as as

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<v Speaker 1>as it has been at the beginning of the year. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>Jade Daniels has been spectacular running the ball, but the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of it has been a little spotty here and there,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly between the tackles. And if you're gonna own time

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<v Speaker 1>with possession, you have to establish a run game to

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<v Speaker 1>again keep this line's offense off the field. So what

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<v Speaker 1>do you do against this lines even in front that

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<v Speaker 1>has been banged up quite a bit but still plays

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about their talent great?

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<v Speaker 4>I would actually like to see, And this may come

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<v Speaker 4>off as a shock for some, I would actually, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and I may have not been in the presser if

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<v Speaker 4>coach quit addresses at all, you know, really wasn't certain

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<v Speaker 4>why Chris Rodriguez was in active last week, because I

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<v Speaker 4>would like to see perhaps Chris Rodriguez. I think when

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<v Speaker 4>we're talking about that speed in between tackles being able

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<v Speaker 4>to get out, I think Chris Rodriguez is an opportunity

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<v Speaker 4>to do that as well as Jeremy McNichols. The team

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<v Speaker 4>does have Austin acklerbet so they can help. But another

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<v Speaker 4>thing that the team did on the fourth and one

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<v Speaker 4>that I was like, Wow, we really doing this is

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<v Speaker 4>they brought in Marcus Mariota right. I was like, now,

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<v Speaker 4>wait a minute, because at this point in time, now

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<v Speaker 4>is when you see the will starting to spin from

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<v Speaker 4>a Cliff Kingsbury offense perspective. When I say you'll start

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<v Speaker 4>to spend, we're going to need to see some creativity

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<v Speaker 4>and some innovation here.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>They know that this the run game.

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<v Speaker 4>Has stalled quite a bit. So what do you do

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<v Speaker 4>when you start. You gotta get creative. You gotta leverage

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<v Speaker 4>and utilize those players that can get you that yard.

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<v Speaker 4>And that sounds crazy, right that you got to get

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<v Speaker 4>creative in order to get you know, fourth and inches

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<v Speaker 4>or thirte in inches or fourth and one and two.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's what they had to do just last week

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<v Speaker 4>against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. So not to like call

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<v Speaker 4>any one player out, but it's obvious they're they're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>have They're having a tough time with the run game,

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<v Speaker 4>so they're gonna have to get And it's not necessarily

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<v Speaker 4>like just making Jaden Use's legs, you know, even more

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<v Speaker 4>so than he already does, or just taking deep shots

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<v Speaker 4>down the field when he doesn't necessarily see it as

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<v Speaker 4>clearly or as openly, But it's really using that creativity

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<v Speaker 4>and innovation that we know that this that this offensive

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<v Speaker 4>staff has relying on those plays from a David Blouse,

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<v Speaker 4>a coach Pritchard, everything else that they're able to do

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<v Speaker 4>to pull this together because they're absolutely going to need

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<v Speaker 4>a strong run game on Saturday night. The who is

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<v Speaker 4>going to bring that strong run game is where we

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<v Speaker 4>kind of don't know, And I would like to see

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<v Speaker 4>the team, you know, take a look at Chris Rogriguez

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<v Speaker 4>if he's inactive again, then bring in Marcus Mariota like

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<v Speaker 4>you did on last Sunday night, and really put more

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<v Speaker 4>emphasis on Austin Eckler and Jeremy McNicholas.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's a good point because I really did

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<v Speaker 1>like the way they used Mariota for those like the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback sneak stuff, but also putting you know, Jaden in

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<v Speaker 1>motion a lot. And I also noticed that they were

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<v Speaker 1>using a lot more speed option plays. It's a triple option,

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<v Speaker 1>which is like that's always sort of been a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a wrinkle, but you really didn't see all

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<v Speaker 1>that much of it during the regular season. So David,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll switch over to you here and like, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think about the creativity to get like the ring

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<v Speaker 1>of going a little bit more and like, how much

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<v Speaker 1>more do you think they can build on that against

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<v Speaker 1>the lines defense that is, you know, fifth overall for

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<v Speaker 1>the season and rushing yards per game.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think I think you need to have your

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<v Speaker 5>your primary plan, which could be to do a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit more of what you saw against Tampa Bay, but you.

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<v Speaker 2>Also needed to have your contingency plan.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think that when you get deeper into the

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<v Speaker 5>weeds of how do we solve this running problem, you

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<v Speaker 5>don't you don't need to get more complex. If you

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<v Speaker 5>have to get into that contingency plan, you have to

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<v Speaker 5>get more back to basics. And I think that is

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<v Speaker 5>where a guy that Chris Rodery hasn't come into to

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<v Speaker 5>what Kenny was saying, Like, if you've turned to Chris Roderiz,

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<v Speaker 5>that means that maybe some of the polls, some of

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<v Speaker 5>the traps, some of the outside runs, some of the

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<v Speaker 5>zone reads and all that stuff, maybe they're not working

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<v Speaker 5>against his Lions defense. So if we're gonna switch gears

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<v Speaker 5>to Chris Roderiez's get back to basics. Man, Let's just

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<v Speaker 5>tell each guy on the line of scrimmage, this is

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<v Speaker 5>your dude. Put some put some manful manipulation on them.

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<v Speaker 5>Move them from the spot spot A to spot B. Chris,

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<v Speaker 5>this is the gap that you're gonna run through. Hit

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<v Speaker 5>that whole hit it hard, fall forward, and Plute sees

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<v Speaker 5>Detroit Lions delivered.

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<v Speaker 2>Some body blows. Because the thing.

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<v Speaker 5>About the Detroit Lions defense that's interesting is, yes, their

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<v Speaker 5>yards per per game on the ground that they're giving

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<v Speaker 5>up is low, but the yards per carry that they're

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<v Speaker 5>giving up is actually not as low. It's actually one

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<v Speaker 5>of the higher averages in the league. What's happening is

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<v Speaker 5>that a lot of times teams are falling behind to

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<v Speaker 5>the Detroit Lions, so they're going to their pass game

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<v Speaker 5>really quick because they feel like they have to keep

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<v Speaker 5>up in this track meet or like I said before,

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<v Speaker 5>they're changing up who they are. They're saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we usually like to establish the run, establish this ground game,

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<v Speaker 5>control of the clock. We know we need to swing,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, blow for blow this Troy Lions defense or offense.

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<v Speaker 5>And it kind of does the job for the Troy

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<v Speaker 5>Lions defense themselves. They kind of simplify themselves and they

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<v Speaker 5>just come out trying to pass the ball all over

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<v Speaker 5>the yard.

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<v Speaker 2>So I like to.

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<v Speaker 5>See that kind of goes back to the commanders, just

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<v Speaker 5>kind of staying true to who you are. What I

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<v Speaker 5>really liked about what they did against Tampa is we

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<v Speaker 5>saw I felt like more designed passes to running backs.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, I've always kind I've said all season longly,

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<v Speaker 5>Jane Daniels doesn't really check down his checkdown and his running.

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<v Speaker 5>So when you see them throw a short pass to

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<v Speaker 5>a tied end, a short pass to a running back,

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<v Speaker 5>typically it's part of the play design only James dropping

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<v Speaker 5>back looking deep to push the defensive umbrella deep and

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<v Speaker 5>then throw it underneath Austin Eckler. It might look like

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<v Speaker 5>a up off, but really that's the play design from

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<v Speaker 5>the play call.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that they did that a little bit more

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<v Speaker 2>against Tampa.

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<v Speaker 5>But because you take advantage of their aggression is going

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<v Speaker 5>to usually clear up some spots behind the line of scrimmage.

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<v Speaker 2>But also knowing that you got guys like.

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<v Speaker 5>Terry McLaurin Diami Brown that can kind of push to

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<v Speaker 5>the field deep, so the Buccaneers have to keep that

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<v Speaker 5>shell out there and you take advantage of that soft

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<v Speaker 5>middle from those from those perspectives.

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<v Speaker 2>That they do collapse on those middle short routes.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, now you've got a quarterback, they can get outside

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<v Speaker 5>of that protection or outside of that coverage and do

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<v Speaker 5>damage that way. I like to see him continue to

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<v Speaker 5>kind of do those types of things. And looking at

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<v Speaker 5>Brian ro Robinson like that's a guy that everybody wants

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<v Speaker 5>to get going again. He was going really well in

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<v Speaker 5>the beginning of the season, you know, middle of the season,

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<v Speaker 5>dealt with some injuries here in the last half of

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<v Speaker 5>this year, our last portion that he's really just kind

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<v Speaker 5>of has gotten bogged down.

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<v Speaker 2>We saw it last.

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<v Speaker 5>Year with Sam Hall and Eric the Enemy. Some of

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<v Speaker 5>it was by his hunts, some of it was a

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<v Speaker 5>survival mode from Sam Howell. But Brian Robinson can be

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<v Speaker 5>a threat in the passing game. He can do some

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<v Speaker 5>damage as a receiver out of the backfield. So we

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<v Speaker 5>you know Austin Eckler can do do that as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Jerry McNichols has some ability there.

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<v Speaker 5>Chris Roder, he has one one career catchup. I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 5>the dude can catch better than he's given credit for.

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<v Speaker 5>So you have four backs that you potentially use in

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<v Speaker 5>that mode. So whether it's physically actually running the ball

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<v Speaker 5>and doing getting better at it, or using that short

0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:17.159
<v Speaker 5>pass game as an extension of the run game. Combine

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit of what you did last week, but

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<v Speaker 5>also had that contingency planet. Look, if that's not working,

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<v Speaker 5>just give Chris the ball and let him just hammer

0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:25.000
<v Speaker 5>the line of scrimmage and do some damage that way.

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<v Speaker 5>Because this Troy line, I think it's four point one

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<v Speaker 5>yards in the middle of the field, four yards either

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<v Speaker 5>side the left of the right.

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<v Speaker 2>They're giving up yards per carry. You just have to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out how to get those yards out of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, I really am interested to see if

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Rodorigins will be active because I do like what

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<v Speaker 1>he does whenever he's on the field. He came up

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<v Speaker 1>really big for them and a lot of clutch spots there.

0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:48.399
<v Speaker 1>And you bring in the point about b robbing the

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<v Speaker 1>passing game, and people forget one of the most explosive

0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:52.760
<v Speaker 1>plays he had was against the Seahawks on a pass

0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:55.280
<v Speaker 1>play down the left sideline to score that touchdown. I

0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:58.639
<v Speaker 1>mean that was for that That game is probably, you know,

0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:02.240
<v Speaker 1>one of the offense his best games last year. That

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<v Speaker 1>was definitely one of the more electric players. Now, Candy,

0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:09.080
<v Speaker 1>we mentioned staying True, who Washington's is on offense now,

0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:13.320
<v Speaker 1>but there's also a very you know, obviously there's a

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<v Speaker 1>possibility that the commanders will be down seven maybe even

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<v Speaker 1>double diggit points here at some point. So how how

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<v Speaker 1>do they avoid the temptation of, like David said, just okay,

0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:24.800
<v Speaker 1>we need to throw all over the yard here instead

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<v Speaker 1>of just okay, we're down ten points. We're fine. We

0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:30.359
<v Speaker 1>just need to keep saying who we are, run the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>get some get some traction on offense, and then all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden we're back into it.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I think that's where and this is the

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<v Speaker 4>name that we really hadn't talked about, right because of

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<v Speaker 4>the course, because of the great questions that you're asking,

0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:45.879
<v Speaker 4>But that is where we'll have to focus in on

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<v Speaker 4>quarterback play, right, We'll have to see you.

0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Jaden.

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<v Speaker 4>Daniels remained the cool calm and collected that kid, Jaden

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<v Speaker 4>that he is right, Like if he keeps the same

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<v Speaker 4>you know, just poise, like everybody's been saying for like,

0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:04.880
<v Speaker 4>you know, the last year that we've all been covering him.

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<v Speaker 4>If he continues that, I think they can get that done, right,

0:22:08.880 --> 0:22:12.040
<v Speaker 4>because then that also aligns with time of possession, right,

0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:15.320
<v Speaker 4>you're not You're not in desperation mode. You're not taking

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<v Speaker 4>us back when you should have thrown it out right

0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:19.000
<v Speaker 4>or you just you know, And and some of that

0:22:19.119 --> 0:22:20.960
<v Speaker 4>has to do with the offensive line, haven't you know,

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<v Speaker 4>really brought that up, because we know that that group

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<v Speaker 4>had a strong start, but then to start, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>dealing with some injuries and having to you know, share,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, show their versatility of people having to move

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<v Speaker 4>move about across the line, and folks stand it out

0:22:35.359 --> 0:22:36.200
<v Speaker 4>due to injuries.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do think.

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<v Speaker 4>They can keep a part of that identity because so

0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:44.399
<v Speaker 4>much of who the Washington commanders are it's because of

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<v Speaker 4>who Jane Dale is. Dan Quinn talked earlier this week

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<v Speaker 4>they still all had faith. So if he keeps that mentality,

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<v Speaker 4>I think that is the key nucleus of them remaining

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<v Speaker 4>who they are.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I really do think so. And you're right, we

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<v Speaker 1>haven't really talked about Jaden that much. We have should

0:23:00.600 --> 0:23:03.119
<v Speaker 1>have been doing that because he has been, i mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the catalyst for this for this entire for this entire run.

0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:08.600
<v Speaker 1>They've been onto the like after the bye week. But yeah,

0:23:08.720 --> 0:23:10.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, and David, we'll we'll we'll wrap this one

0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:12.520
<v Speaker 1>up here by going to you, I mean the Jade

0:23:12.520 --> 0:23:15.080
<v Speaker 1>and Daniels of it all. And how how crucial is

0:23:15.080 --> 0:23:17.080
<v Speaker 1>that going to be to keep to keep to their

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<v Speaker 1>to keep to their identity on offense because he is

0:23:19.920 --> 0:23:21.480
<v Speaker 1>such a cool and conquct to guy and this is

0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:24.159
<v Speaker 1>such a hostile environment. How important is that going to

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<v Speaker 1>be as a head into this really you know, intense matchup.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, man, I mean he sets the Tony makes it run,

0:23:29.760 --> 0:23:32.600
<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean going into the wildcard round,

0:23:32.600 --> 0:23:34.960
<v Speaker 5>that was something that I talked about before that game.

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<v Speaker 5>Wanted to see where we had seen Jaden kind of

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<v Speaker 5>put on the cape in the second.

0:23:38.480 --> 0:23:40.120
<v Speaker 2>Half of a lot of these games recently.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, you know, manufacture some running offense where there wasn't

0:23:43.040 --> 0:23:45.439
<v Speaker 5>a rushing offense and do those types of things, and

0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:47.720
<v Speaker 5>you know, not completely carry the team on his back,

0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:51.439
<v Speaker 5>because I think saying that completely would you'll be disrespectful.

0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:53.679
<v Speaker 2>Some of the some of the other players, but you know, putting.

0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:55.080
<v Speaker 5>A lot of that on his on his own shoulders

0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:57.080
<v Speaker 5>and saying I'm going to make some things happen, whether

0:23:57.080 --> 0:23:59.440
<v Speaker 5>it's extending players to give guys opportunities to get open,

0:23:59.720 --> 0:24:00.359
<v Speaker 5>things like that.

0:24:00.400 --> 0:24:03.120
<v Speaker 2>And I wanted to see him do that earlier against.

0:24:02.800 --> 0:24:05.919
<v Speaker 5>Stampa Bay Buccaneers, because Buccaneers defense was one that in

0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:08.640
<v Speaker 5>the second half of games historically, they really weren't giving.

0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Up a lot of offense.

0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:12.199
<v Speaker 5>And I felt like if they had to wait, if

0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:13.919
<v Speaker 5>the Washington Bearers had to wait until the second half

0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:16.000
<v Speaker 5>to really try to turn it on, and by that time,

0:24:16.040 --> 0:24:17.879
<v Speaker 5>with the momentum and all that stuff.

0:24:17.600 --> 0:24:18.960
<v Speaker 2>It may be a little bit too late. So to

0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:21.080
<v Speaker 2>see Jayden kind of do a little bit.

0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:22.800
<v Speaker 5>Of that in the first half and that Buccaneers game

0:24:22.880 --> 0:24:25.480
<v Speaker 5>was really encouraging. I think it's it's kind of part

0:24:25.520 --> 0:24:27.280
<v Speaker 5>of the progression of him as a leader of this

0:24:27.359 --> 0:24:29.720
<v Speaker 5>team to where it's not just Okay, now you need be.

0:24:29.840 --> 0:24:32.040
<v Speaker 2>So I'll turn it on. It's no, It's turned on

0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:33.640
<v Speaker 2>from from the first minute of the game.

0:24:33.680 --> 0:24:35.960
<v Speaker 5>And I think you're gonna need that again with the

0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:38.640
<v Speaker 5>Troy Lions. And you know, look so far, I mean

0:24:38.720 --> 0:24:41.920
<v Speaker 5>so far, the dude's unflappable. And I know the Troy Lions.

0:24:41.960 --> 0:24:43.960
<v Speaker 5>Part of their part of their game plan, part of

0:24:44.359 --> 0:24:46.199
<v Speaker 5>all the lines Mediah they're talking about, is they've got

0:24:46.280 --> 0:24:47.800
<v Speaker 5>to bother Jade and they've got to shake him. They've

0:24:47.800 --> 0:24:50.080
<v Speaker 5>got to rattle them. They've got to make him understand.

0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:52.679
<v Speaker 5>Like you know that that playoff atmosphere, this one's different.

0:24:53.119 --> 0:24:55.000
<v Speaker 2>But so far nobody's been able to do it.

0:24:55.040 --> 0:24:56.520
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if if ford Field is gonna be

0:24:56.560 --> 0:24:59.159
<v Speaker 5>able to do it, But as long as Jayden stays cool, calm, collective,

0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:01.199
<v Speaker 5>like you're saying, and then go out there with the

0:25:01.240 --> 0:25:03.560
<v Speaker 5>mindset of I'm going to make the plays that my

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:05.840
<v Speaker 5>team needs me to make, no matter what the situation is,

0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:07.680
<v Speaker 5>no matter what time is on the clock. I think

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:09.359
<v Speaker 5>that that's gonna go a long way to keeping the

0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:09.800
<v Speaker 5>news game.

0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:10.760
<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>All I have to say is, as one point, the

0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Tampa Bay Buccaneers had two spies on Jane Daniels during

0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:22.080
<v Speaker 1>the fourth quarter, and two spies is crazy.

0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:22.320
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:24.320
<v Speaker 1>That just shows you how much respect they have for him.

0:25:24.320 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 1>And he burned him because I had said, Okay, you're

0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:28.640
<v Speaker 1>just gonna let me not let me run.

0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:29.080
<v Speaker 2>That's fine.

0:25:29.119 --> 0:25:30.760
<v Speaker 1>I got a lot of players open down field.

0:25:30.760 --> 0:25:31.119
<v Speaker 2>Whatever.

0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:33.240
<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna move on to last question here. I

0:25:33.320 --> 0:25:35.359
<v Speaker 1>will keep the score to myself because I want to

0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:37.639
<v Speaker 1>keep that lads a little bit of a surprise heading

0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:40.959
<v Speaker 1>in this last round here. And as I mentioned. You know,

0:25:41.320 --> 0:25:45.159
<v Speaker 1>the Lions offense full of playmakers. I'm on Rossaint Brown,

0:25:45.960 --> 0:25:48.920
<v Speaker 1>You've got you know, Jerry Goff, You've got Jamior Gibbs.

0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:52.280
<v Speaker 1>All these guys are are just so potent in terms

0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:54.080
<v Speaker 1>of if you had to pick one, if you had

0:25:54.119 --> 0:25:57.080
<v Speaker 1>to be picky, here can you We'll start with you here,

0:25:57.080 --> 0:26:02.040
<v Speaker 1>since you are the undefeated champion, who's one player this

0:26:02.119 --> 0:26:05.119
<v Speaker 1>defense just absolutely has to stop if they're going to

0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:07.560
<v Speaker 1>pull out Detroit with a win. Jared Goff.

0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:11.119
<v Speaker 4>I mean I would, I would literally say, you know,

0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:15.680
<v Speaker 4>my gut is Jamar Gibbs, straight up. But another thing

0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:19.240
<v Speaker 4>that this defense hasn't been able to do when we

0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:25.359
<v Speaker 4>you know, consistently is get to the quarterback. Get to

0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:26.960
<v Speaker 4>the quarterback early and often.

0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:27.720
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:26:27.720 --> 0:26:29.560
<v Speaker 4>You might see it a little bit, don't see it

0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:31.920
<v Speaker 4>a whole lot. You get Jared off of his game.

0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:33.159
<v Speaker 4>It's very similar push.

0:26:33.040 --> 0:26:33.480
<v Speaker 3>To what that I know.

0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:34.680
<v Speaker 4>We all know that they're going to try to do

0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:38.160
<v Speaker 4>the Jadin. But if Jared Goff has a bad game,

0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:41.600
<v Speaker 4>it will be because of the commands defense, and that's

0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:44.000
<v Speaker 4>what would have to happen. I'm saying, zoom in on

0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:47.159
<v Speaker 4>Jared Goff, zoom in on the orchestrator in the in

0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:51.160
<v Speaker 4>the person that is the conductor. If you will out

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:54.000
<v Speaker 4>on the field, like I said, my gun will say

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:56.560
<v Speaker 4>Jamar Gibbs, right, because it's like the obvious answer. But

0:26:56.600 --> 0:26:58.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm still like getting to that quarterback, just like they're

0:26:58.920 --> 0:27:00.360
<v Speaker 4>going to try to get the James.

0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:03.000
<v Speaker 3>It's absolutely what this Commander's defense has to do.

0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:06.440
<v Speaker 4>There's been questions about we talk a lot about establishing

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:08.600
<v Speaker 4>the run. We've also talked about stopping the run, but

0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:10.840
<v Speaker 4>that starts with rattling the quarterback.

0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 3>So getting to Golf early and often, I think that's

0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 3>who they have to zoom in on.

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Look, Golf is completing seventy two point four percent of

0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:21.800
<v Speaker 1>his pass just thirty seven toutdowns, twelve interceptions, been sacked

0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:25.479
<v Speaker 1>thirty one times. But he really is the thing that

0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:28.600
<v Speaker 1>makes that offense go. And they, I mean the Detroit fans,

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:31.159
<v Speaker 1>they they chant his name all the time to let

0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:34.440
<v Speaker 1>him know exactly how much they appreciate him. David, same

0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:37.480
<v Speaker 1>question to you, if you had to pick one player

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:40.680
<v Speaker 1>on this line's offensive stop for the Commanders defense, who

0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 1>would it be? And why?

0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 5>So I'm gonna cheat a little bit, and if you

0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 5>don't let me get away with it. I do have

0:27:45.880 --> 0:27:48.560
<v Speaker 5>an actual player to name, but it's Ben Johnson. And

0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 5>I don't mean you had to stifle the attire Detroit

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 5>Lions offense. What I mean is when you look at

0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:56.360
<v Speaker 5>the Troy Lions history, especially their losses, their guys still

0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:57.959
<v Speaker 5>get yards. Like at the end of the day, it's

0:27:58.040 --> 0:27:59.960
<v Speaker 5>kind of a hope to contain because you can't stop them.

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:02.040
<v Speaker 5>Type of situation like am Andara is gonna get a

0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:04.600
<v Speaker 5>little bit of his Jamison Williams, you know, Sam Laporta.

0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 5>All these guys are gonna get a little bit of

0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:08.199
<v Speaker 5>offense no matter what. Even if you win, that's that

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 5>line's still gonna look good for some of those guys.

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:13.520
<v Speaker 5>Ben Johnson loves trick plays. He loves misdirection. He loves

0:28:13.560 --> 0:28:15.720
<v Speaker 5>getting guys out of their gaps, out of their zones,

0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:18.360
<v Speaker 5>out of their fits by using slight of hand.

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:19.600
<v Speaker 2>He's kind of a magician that way.

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:22.200
<v Speaker 5>He's got his basic, straight up offense, of course, but

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:25.880
<v Speaker 5>he likes to dial up these things that cause great plays.

0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:28.320
<v Speaker 5>Kind of what really should be a very simple, you know,

0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:31.440
<v Speaker 5>three yard game turns into a thirteen yard game because.

0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:33.200
<v Speaker 2>This linebacker got out of his own because.

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 5>Of this misdirection, this thing that he showed him that

0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:38.440
<v Speaker 5>got that player off till That is where I think

0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 5>this game is gonna be wonder loss ultimately, is if

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:44.000
<v Speaker 5>Ben Johnson pulls out a little triggeration, a little something cute,

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:46.040
<v Speaker 5>a little bit of slight of hand, and this Commander's

0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 5>defense stays home, stays pat, isn't tricked by the triggeration,

0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 5>then I think they're gonna.

0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:52.160
<v Speaker 2>Be able to handle that. Well.

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:54.600
<v Speaker 5>If they don't, I'm not saying it's gonna be what

0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:55.800
<v Speaker 5>was like forty one to six.

0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:57.200
<v Speaker 2>I think last year is what it was, you know,

0:28:57.240 --> 0:28:59.120
<v Speaker 2>Lion's Cowboys. I don't think it's gonna be anything crazy

0:28:59.200 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 2>like that.

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:02.240
<v Speaker 5>They give up some of these cheap plays, you know,

0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 5>a five yard slant that turns into a twenty yard

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 5>game because somebody was out of position because they saw

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 5>something they thought with something else.

0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 2>That's where this team can get really into trouble.

0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 5>So that's where I think the team's gonna stop Ben

0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:14.680
<v Speaker 5>Johnson is by not letting him get those cheap yards

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 5>from those Q plays.

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 1>And I mean you could see the respect that these

0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 1>that these coaches for the Commanders have for Ben Johnson.

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:25.560
<v Speaker 1>He is objectively speaking. One of the best offensive minds

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 1>in the league right now. He has been for the

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:29.800
<v Speaker 1>last couple of years. He's so innovative, so creative with

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:33.480
<v Speaker 1>the way he runs that offense, and he really does

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 1>like to just be in his bag with some creative

0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:38.960
<v Speaker 1>plays out there. And as Joe had said, you gotta

0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 1>trust your eyes, you gotta slay disciplined, and Ben Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>will make you test that discipline time and time again.

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<v Speaker 1>So final decision here. Both did really good, really good

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<v Speaker 1>answers here. Candy, you were up by one point, so

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<v Speaker 1>you had a little bit of an advantage heading into it. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I gotta go with David's answer for going

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<v Speaker 1>after the architect himself and Johnson. I think that was

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<v Speaker 1>an excellent answer. David, you have won. You have dethroned Candy,

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<v Speaker 1>giving her her first loss of the season. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have any parting words of victory for us as we

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<v Speaker 1>head into the weekend.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna have to crank dreams and nightmares because the

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<v Speaker 5>underdog won. But you know what can't he still deserves

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<v Speaker 5>her flowers. So one of the best reporters on this beat,

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<v Speaker 5>so you know, wouldn't rather go up against anybody else

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<v Speaker 5>other than candy.

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<v Speaker 4>And let me go ahead and say David admitted that

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<v Speaker 4>he cheated. That's the only reason why. That's like I

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<v Speaker 4>want that on the pod. He cheated because come on, now,

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<v Speaker 4>you already know I was blesting that tail. I answered

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<v Speaker 4>the question that was asked. He did not all good.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm thinking is he was thinking outside the box,

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<v Speaker 1>being creative.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, like you know, he admitted it, he cheated.

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<v Speaker 5>He didn't answer the question I got, I got, I

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<v Speaker 5>got in Ben Johnson.

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<v Speaker 3>Mode Leslie clear in the long run, cheata's never win.

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<v Speaker 1>But you echo, David, Yes, you're right. Kay Kenny, you

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<v Speaker 1>have been just spectacular. One of my favorite people on

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<v Speaker 1>you went, David, Both of you guys, I have great

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<v Speaker 1>answers to to to all the questions I give, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's great playing along with you guys. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always just very happy to have you guys on

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<v Speaker 1>the pod. But like David, hopefully the Commanders will be

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<v Speaker 1>dethroning the Detroit Lions for who for what it's worth

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<v Speaker 1>our h and three against the cannetitors in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>Just throwing that out there, not that it matters really

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of the grand scheme of things, but it

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<v Speaker 1>is a good little bit of who've been a history

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<v Speaker 1>to know, uh and they will be. They could be

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<v Speaker 1>handed to the NFC Championship for the first time since

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's the nineteen ninety one season. We all

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<v Speaker 1>know what happened then. But until then, maybe we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>you till the next week, maybe we won't. But either way, regardless,

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<v Speaker 1>you should be great reviewing and subscribing wherever get your podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and this has been the beatdown