1
00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:14,560
Speaker 1: What's going on, y'all. This is a divisional edition of

2
00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,720
Speaker 1: the Beatdown podcast. I am your host, senior writer for

3
00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,279
Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders, Zach Selby. Last week I said, look,

4
00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,119
Speaker 1: I don't know if we're going to be here or not.

5
00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,280
Speaker 1: We're recording these podcasts like every day of our last.

6
00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:27,960
Speaker 1: I kind of like it a little bit. And the

7
00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,520
Speaker 1: Commanders are also playing like it's their last because they

8
00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,800
Speaker 1: are advancing to the divisional round after the dink from

9
00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,440
Speaker 1: Zane Gonzalez over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to defeat them

10
00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,479
Speaker 1: twenty three to twenty wild game. But as always with

11
00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,120
Speaker 1: the Commanders, especially over the last month and a half

12
00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:45,680
Speaker 1: or so, it seems like that's just the way they

13
00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:46,880
Speaker 1: play and that's where they live.

14
00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:48,479
Speaker 2: But either way they are going to be playing.

15
00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:52,199
Speaker 1: They never one seeded Detroit Lions heading into this weekend

16
00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:56,040
Speaker 1: on Saturday at eight o'clock on Fox, it is going

17
00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,680
Speaker 1: to be I think, by far, the Commander's biggest challenge

18
00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:04,400
Speaker 1: of the year. This This Ben Jonson offense is electric, dynamic,

19
00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,600
Speaker 1: and just about every single sense of the word defense.

20
00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,319
Speaker 1: Maybe not doesn't put up the statue would you would

21
00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,760
Speaker 1: want at some points, but they are very physical, very

22
00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,800
Speaker 1: symbolic of the culture. Dan Campbell is put up there

23
00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,640
Speaker 1: in Detroit and it is going to be quite the matchup.

24
00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,240
Speaker 1: And no matter what, if the Commanders do somehow pull

25
00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,240
Speaker 1: off a win here, they will have most certainly earned

26
00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,000
Speaker 1: that spot in the NFC Championship. And how are they

27
00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,199
Speaker 1: going to do that? How are they going to advance there? Well,

28
00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,480
Speaker 1: that is what we will be discussing today. With me,

29
00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,640
Speaker 1: we have the undefeated Candy Waller, who joins us from

30
00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,479
Speaker 1: Booie TV. Handy, how are you doing?

31
00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,440
Speaker 3: I'm doing great. I was doing a whole lot of

32
00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,560
Speaker 3: woo in the background when you remind me that I'm undefeated.

33
00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:50,160
Speaker 4: So but yes, all is well cold, but all as well.

34
00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,760
Speaker 1: Yes, very cold. I feel like I need to bring

35
00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,200
Speaker 1: out some like introduction music here. And your contestant is

36
00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:00,040
Speaker 1: going to be David Harrison, who covers the Commander for

37
00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,240
Speaker 1: Forced Illustrated. David, how are you doing?

38
00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:03,760
Speaker 2: I'm doing good?

39
00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,360
Speaker 5: Feeling as good as Washington was when they went into

40
00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,040
Speaker 5: Philly that ten and oh night Monday night football.

41
00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:10,480
Speaker 2: The undefeated team's about to go down.

42
00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,280
Speaker 1: Oh oh yes, I remember that game too. That was,

43
00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,880
Speaker 1: I mean, definitely one of the top five games I

44
00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,519
Speaker 1: think I've ever had to cover for this team. Definitely

45
00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,040
Speaker 1: a good example of how the unexpected can definitely happen here.

46
00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,079
Speaker 1: And guys listening, uh, you know, they know the deal

47
00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:30,200
Speaker 1: by now, questions points, winners, losers. I have to decide

48
00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,160
Speaker 1: the winner. And with that, all of that being said,

49
00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,360
Speaker 1: let's jump right into it here, and let's start off

50
00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,359
Speaker 1: with the biggest challenge I think for the Commanders, which

51
00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,280
Speaker 1: is going to be Detroit's offense. Right, and as I

52
00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,359
Speaker 1: mentioned at the top of the show, Ben Jonson has

53
00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,960
Speaker 1: that unit humming their top at unit in just about

54
00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,880
Speaker 1: every single major category here. Looks like they're second in

55
00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,160
Speaker 1: over and overall yards per game, their second in passing.

56
00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,000
Speaker 1: Jerry Goff has been playing out of his mind, one

57
00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,519
Speaker 1: of the best seasons you've had of his career. They're

58
00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,560
Speaker 1: putting out, you know, forty fifty points and just blow

59
00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,720
Speaker 1: these teams away in a lot of ways. They're very

60
00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,120
Speaker 1: creative on offense, and they are also very aggressive in

61
00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,200
Speaker 1: another way that is very sibolic of Dan Campbell's style.

62
00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:11,600
Speaker 2: There.

63
00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,839
Speaker 1: They go for the fourth down a lot. They they

64
00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,720
Speaker 1: play like they're behind, as Joe Witz said, a lot,

65
00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,120
Speaker 1: and it normally works out for them, and it's going

66
00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,360
Speaker 1: to be a big challenge for the commanders, who also

67
00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,280
Speaker 1: you know, they're one of the best and most efficient

68
00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,360
Speaker 1: fourth down teams is here over the last two decades

69
00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,640
Speaker 1: or so. So it's going to be, you know, no punch,

70
00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,600
Speaker 1: just vibes on Saturday. So David, we'll start with you here,

71
00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,040
Speaker 1: and I want to ski more like I'm belaeble these

72
00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,040
Speaker 1: is offense defense, but like I think there's more of

73
00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,360
Speaker 1: a general question for both sides of the ball. I mean,

74
00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,960
Speaker 1: what is the best way for Washington to counter this

75
00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,000
Speaker 1: ultra aggressive style that Detroit has on offense?

76
00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,760
Speaker 5: Honestly, man, I think the best thing for the Washington

77
00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,080
Speaker 5: Matters to do this weekend is just be themselves. I

78
00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,680
Speaker 5: think a team like the Detroit Lions because of how

79
00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,800
Speaker 5: aggressive they are and you know, they like to pull

80
00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,000
Speaker 5: some recreation on offense sometimes and do all these types

81
00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,240
Speaker 5: of things and bring these blitzes that are designed to

82
00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,000
Speaker 5: obviously put pressure on the quarterback and me.

83
00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,520
Speaker 2: And then we went up against the Minnesota Vikings as.

84
00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:10,920
Speaker 5: Basically all they did the Troy Lions, and we're gonna

85
00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,280
Speaker 5: play the pressure on Sam Darnold and make improve that

86
00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:13,880
Speaker 5: he can beat us.

87
00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,600
Speaker 2: And unfortunately for the Vikings, he couldn't do it.

88
00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,200
Speaker 5: I think a lot of teams start to get out

89
00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,840
Speaker 5: of their own their own methods. They start to kind

90
00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,359
Speaker 5: of change who they are and try to think that

91
00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,440
Speaker 5: what we need to match the Lions, we need to

92
00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,440
Speaker 5: be just as clever as the Lions. And I don't

93
00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:29,920
Speaker 5: think this Washington Bears team needs to do that. I

94
00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:31,839
Speaker 5: don't think they're gonna do that. I think they're securing

95
00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,720
Speaker 5: their identity. They know who they wanted to be from

96
00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,839
Speaker 5: the jump, and all the guys have kind of gotten

97
00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,960
Speaker 5: on board with what dan Quinn wanted this team to be,

98
00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,520
Speaker 5: and they just do what got you here. Be consistent

99
00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,279
Speaker 5: as you possibly can, be aggressive when the moment calls

100
00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,720
Speaker 5: for you to be aggressive, and ultimately just play smart

101
00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,600
Speaker 5: situational football. Be in your fit on defense when you're

102
00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,520
Speaker 5: supposed to be there. Be in your zone when you're

103
00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,159
Speaker 5: supposed to be there. Don't get too wrapped up around

104
00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,159
Speaker 5: well I'm going around, Saint Brown is running across my

105
00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,200
Speaker 5: face even though I'm supposed to have this area.

106
00:04:58,240 --> 00:04:59,560
Speaker 2: I want to make sure he doesn't get the ball.

107
00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,160
Speaker 5: Next saying, you know, Sam Laporta, right in the space

108
00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,080
Speaker 5: you're supposed to be in running for thirty yards. So

109
00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,359
Speaker 5: I think that's the key is don't get you know,

110
00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,520
Speaker 5: we talked about the environment, but don't get wrapped up

111
00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,240
Speaker 5: in your opponents to the point where you start playing

112
00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:11,279
Speaker 5: football differently.

113
00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,599
Speaker 1: That's a really good point. Cliff even brought that up

114
00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,720
Speaker 1: in his presser on the sutle of the points if

115
00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,480
Speaker 1: the day that the days are getting very like getting

116
00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,479
Speaker 1: mixed up because we're playing on Saturday, so everything is

117
00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,919
Speaker 1: pushed back a little bit. But during his presser he

118
00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,040
Speaker 1: mentioned how you don't really ever want to get out

119
00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,279
Speaker 1: of who you are because of you know, like he

120
00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,200
Speaker 1: needs talking with Aaron Lynn in this case, but it starving.

121
00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:33,560
Speaker 1: It works for the other side of the ball too,

122
00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,720
Speaker 1: they don't you never want to get too caught up

123
00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,960
Speaker 1: in what's going on, what they're doing. Yet to get

124
00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,320
Speaker 1: focused on what you're doing and stay and stay with

125
00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,720
Speaker 1: say you're laying in terms of who you are. I

126
00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,240
Speaker 1: think that can be amblematic of the entire team. Candy

127
00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:46,920
Speaker 1: will switch over you and I ask you the same question

128
00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,080
Speaker 1: here is like I said, this, this detrot this Detroit

129
00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,080
Speaker 1: offense is super aggressive all the time. So what do

130
00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,360
Speaker 1: you think they can do to counter that, not only

131
00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,520
Speaker 1: on defense, but also maybe a little bit on offense

132
00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:57,920
Speaker 1: as well.

133
00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,719
Speaker 4: I think the big name of the game here for

134
00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,520
Speaker 4: the Washington Commanders is to do something that they have

135
00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,880
Speaker 4: been really really good at and really smart at, and

136
00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,039
Speaker 4: that is controlling the time of possession. When they're winning

137
00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:15,520
Speaker 4: the time of possession battle, they win right so like

138
00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,600
Speaker 4: straight up, and that is going to take this Washington

139
00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:24,480
Speaker 4: Commanders defense to finally meet a goal that Dan Quinn

140
00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,640
Speaker 4: and Joe Wait Junior have been talking about all season long,

141
00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:32,680
Speaker 4: and that is the turnover goal of three takeaway. They're

142
00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,800
Speaker 4: gonna have to get that football back. The only way

143
00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,479
Speaker 4: you're gonna stop this Lions offense is to not have

144
00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,800
Speaker 4: them on the field straight up. The running game is

145
00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,040
Speaker 4: too vicious, it's too mean, it's too dynamic, and it's

146
00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,039
Speaker 4: a multitude of players that can that can make plays

147
00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,640
Speaker 4: on that offense. They may be down at least one

148
00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,640
Speaker 4: offensive lineman the on the Lion's side, but other than that,

149
00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,760
Speaker 4: keep them off the field right. They are super aggressive,

150
00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,159
Speaker 4: they are super efficient and effective in what they do,

151
00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,200
Speaker 4: so while they can get that football back, and of

152
00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:11,840
Speaker 4: course the Commander's offense themselves be efficient and effective and

153
00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:13,440
Speaker 4: control that kind of possession.

154
00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,680
Speaker 3: They will be successful on Saturday Night.

155
00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,880
Speaker 1: You know, the Commanders, they do have that three turnover goal.

156
00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,280
Speaker 1: They've they've gotten closed a couple of times this year,

157
00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,480
Speaker 1: but they have yet to have turnovers in a single game.

158
00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,600
Speaker 1: They come up with two against Carolina Panthers, Pittsburgh Steelers,

159
00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,080
Speaker 1: the Tansey Titans, and the Philadelphia Eagles, but hadn't hit

160
00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:33,960
Speaker 1: that three mark yet. It'll be interesting to see what

161
00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:38,360
Speaker 1: happens there. But David, you covered the Tampa Buccaneers for

162
00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,520
Speaker 1: a long time, and it seems like the game plan

163
00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,040
Speaker 1: for the Bucks that Washington hell is very similar to

164
00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,200
Speaker 1: what they can put together for the Lions here. So

165
00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,160
Speaker 1: in terms of just you know, getting that aggressive style

166
00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,880
Speaker 1: off the field here for Detroit's offense, Like, do you

167
00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:54,840
Speaker 1: do you borrow a lot of that from from from

168
00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,160
Speaker 1: where you have going into Tampa?

169
00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:57,040
Speaker 2: I think you surely do.

170
00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:58,760
Speaker 5: You know. I think a lot of what the Washington

171
00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,520
Speaker 5: Bearers did against the Buccaneers, they the intent on keeping

172
00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,600
Speaker 5: the lid, on making the Buccaneers, you know, throw all

173
00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,080
Speaker 5: their punches. You don't want to let them land a

174
00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,440
Speaker 5: haymaker and get a knock down, and then you know,

175
00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,120
Speaker 5: the first round or whatever, you want to make them

176
00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,440
Speaker 5: jab their way to the end zone, and then when

177
00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,640
Speaker 5: you get down to those scoring positions, you want to

178
00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:14,239
Speaker 5: try to tighten.

179
00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,320
Speaker 2: Up as much as possible. It's it's kind of interesting,

180
00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:16,480
Speaker 2: you know.

181
00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,280
Speaker 5: I did a little bit of research looking into the Lions' losses,

182
00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,600
Speaker 5: but then also looking into some of their more narrow victories,

183
00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,760
Speaker 5: their one score margin victories, and essentially what I came

184
00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,240
Speaker 5: up with this is somewhat anecdotal, right, because every game

185
00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,520
Speaker 5: has different context. But at the same time, if you

186
00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:36,960
Speaker 5: can prevent the Detroit Lions from having touchdowns on sixty

187
00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,480
Speaker 5: percent of their scoring drift, right, So if they have

188
00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,679
Speaker 5: five scores, four scores, three scores, whatever it is, if

189
00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,320
Speaker 5: you can prevent sixty percent or more of those from

190
00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,640
Speaker 5: being touched downs, you're gonna have a chance to win.

191
00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,800
Speaker 5: And we know that this Washington Commander's team is going

192
00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,480
Speaker 5: to have that chance to win. So or when they

193
00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,160
Speaker 5: have a chance to win, more often than not, they're

194
00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,560
Speaker 5: gonna pull off the victory. Right, So, you give up yards,

195
00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,120
Speaker 5: if you give up if you give up passing yards.

196
00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,480
Speaker 2: The key is not give up the explosives that lead

197
00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,199
Speaker 2: to touchdowns, not just explosives in general, but.

198
00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,680
Speaker 5: The scoring explosives get into the red zone and then

199
00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,440
Speaker 5: try to tying down a little bit. The Comanders didn't

200
00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,320
Speaker 5: have the greatest red zone defense in the world, but

201
00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,280
Speaker 5: they did keep the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, interestingly enough to

202
00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,840
Speaker 5: that sixty percent mark. So if you keep the Lions

203
00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,280
Speaker 5: from scoring from outside the red zone and then hold

204
00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,760
Speaker 5: them to that sixty percent mark in the red zone, obviously,

205
00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,360
Speaker 5: like Candy said, getting takeaways always the optimal plan, but

206
00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,600
Speaker 5: as long as you can keep them to field goals.

207
00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,440
Speaker 5: Because the interesting name about Dan Campbell, he gets a

208
00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,760
Speaker 5: little bit more aggressive in the postseason. We saw that

209
00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,040
Speaker 5: last year, a little bit to his own demise. That's

210
00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:36,719
Speaker 5: just kind of who he is. So you get them

211
00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,720
Speaker 5: in the red zone and you force them into fourth downs,

212
00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,120
Speaker 5: there's gonna be opportunities there where they go for it.

213
00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,920
Speaker 5: And to that three turnover point, Joey Junior said just yesterday,

214
00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,920
Speaker 5: turnover on downs. That's a turnover, So it doesn't cows

215
00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,679
Speaker 5: a turnover in the in the stat box, but that's

216
00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,559
Speaker 5: a turnover to him and that might be one of

217
00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,480
Speaker 5: the ways you get one of those three takeaways.

218
00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,560
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's then Shay, I keep bringing up

219
00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,200
Speaker 1: these things from Cliff because they do kind of apply

220
00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,319
Speaker 1: to both to both sides here, and he said, you

221
00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,559
Speaker 1: know they're super aggressive and that, well, that does give

222
00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,760
Speaker 1: you give them some positive plays every now and again.

223
00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,679
Speaker 1: It does alviously give you the opportunity to hit your

224
00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,560
Speaker 1: own positive plays as well, because there's gonna be some

225
00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,319
Speaker 1: open spots there, and I think I think that's absolutely true.

226
00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,559
Speaker 1: So hey, IFO we move on to the next question here,

227
00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,880
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about like Marshall Lattimore and

228
00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,560
Speaker 1: all this. Obviously, he didn't have the game that you

229
00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,040
Speaker 1: would want future Holiday Hall of Fame inducteam Mike Evans

230
00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,040
Speaker 1: here had ninety three yards all seven of his catches,

231
00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:31,920
Speaker 1: so definitely not a game they would want. But I

232
00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,080
Speaker 1: would imagine he's going to play a pretty big key

233
00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,600
Speaker 1: role here against I'm on Ross and Brown, who has

234
00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,400
Speaker 1: twelve touchdowns, twelve hundred yards this year, one hundred and

235
00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,280
Speaker 1: fifteen receptions, really really great player. But in terms of

236
00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,839
Speaker 1: just staying aggressive, do you think that being able to

237
00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,360
Speaker 1: lock up Amon raan man coverage a little bit more

238
00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,040
Speaker 1: is going to allow that even the line for Washington

239
00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,000
Speaker 1: to be a little more aggressive and hope we put

240
00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,839
Speaker 1: bresh on Jered Goff, who was, like I said earlier,

241
00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,040
Speaker 1: has just been very accurate with the ball this year.

242
00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,000
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I think one of the things when I was

243
00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,360
Speaker 4: looking at this matchup, in this game overall, there were

244
00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:09,720
Speaker 4: some similarities to me in the Commander's game against the Ravens,

245
00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,079
Speaker 4: just because there's multiple ways that this Lion's team can

246
00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,400
Speaker 4: beat you. We have a good, solid quarterback. Not that

247
00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:22,079
Speaker 4: I'm comparing Jerry Goff to Somelamar Jackson, but it's good, solid,

248
00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,319
Speaker 4: great play that Jared Goff has been doing since he's

249
00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,360
Speaker 4: been in Detroit. You have a great run game, right,

250
00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,480
Speaker 4: and you have receivers right. And so I remember distinctly

251
00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,439
Speaker 4: that game Joe Wick Junior feeling like the offense.

252
00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,280
Speaker 3: The Commander's offense, have done enough to win that game.

253
00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,040
Speaker 4: But there's four specific plays that if the defense had

254
00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,080
Speaker 4: not had done what they were supposed to do, they

255
00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:46,320
Speaker 4: would have won that football game.

256
00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:47,640
Speaker 3: Who they did not.

257
00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,640
Speaker 4: Have in that Baltimore Ravens game was a Marshawn Lattism, right,

258
00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,240
Speaker 4: So now you have a Marshawn Lattimore. It's almost like

259
00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,160
Speaker 4: go back to the film, go back to the tape,

260
00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,520
Speaker 4: go back to those moments. If you had had a

261
00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,920
Speaker 4: Marshawn Lattimore, what would you have done differently and what

262
00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:05,040
Speaker 4: could have happened to alleviate some of those early plays

263
00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,320
Speaker 4: by Jay Flowers in the game, right, Because you saw

264
00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,880
Speaker 4: that shift happen in the second half of that Ravens game,

265
00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,439
Speaker 4: but the first half was like, oh my gosh, the

266
00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,840
Speaker 4: dvs are just the struggling. But like I said, you

267
00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,360
Speaker 4: didn't have that key component of a Marshaan Lattimore, So

268
00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,400
Speaker 4: how can you strategically ensure that with a stronger piece

269
00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,520
Speaker 4: in Marshawn Now we all know he's still dealing with

270
00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,760
Speaker 4: a hamstring thing, right, it's not necessarily one hundred percent,

271
00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,800
Speaker 4: but just his mentality and just if they're strategic and

272
00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,040
Speaker 4: bringing in that safety help, we're appropriate. I'm always going

273
00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,640
Speaker 4: to say a great way to help your dbs in

274
00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,240
Speaker 4: getting pressure up front the defensive line, got to get

275
00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,200
Speaker 4: your golf on the ground, got to get more pressure

276
00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,840
Speaker 4: up front. That's always helped to your DBS. But I

277
00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,360
Speaker 4: just continue to feel like in that game, they didn't

278
00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,280
Speaker 4: have a Marshawn Lattimore. You do now, So what are

279
00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,520
Speaker 4: those specific plays where you can ensure his play is

280
00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,840
Speaker 4: highlighted and it doesn't end up in DPIs.

281
00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that has been you know a little bit

282
00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,280
Speaker 1: of a you know, an issue. I would say, maybe

283
00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,200
Speaker 1: not even really an issue, just because that's the way

284
00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,360
Speaker 1: he plays and you love the competitiveness and all that.

285
00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,960
Speaker 1: But you're right, I mean the pass Russians and the

286
00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,280
Speaker 1: coverage they do play very you know, they play well

287
00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,320
Speaker 1: hand in hand together, and I think you're gonna need

288
00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,360
Speaker 1: both your any both against this Lin's offense because, like

289
00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,080
Speaker 1: I said, they play like they're behind at all times

290
00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,120
Speaker 1: and you can't you can't have any mistakes regardless. But

291
00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:26,920
Speaker 1: we are going to move on to the next question here.

292
00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,079
Speaker 1: I will give you both two points. I'll light the

293
00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,120
Speaker 1: points you were making Candy about the town possession and

294
00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,520
Speaker 1: Lattimore David. I'll like the points about you know, Stayton

295
00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,679
Speaker 1: who true to who Washington is, and also the point

296
00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,320
Speaker 1: you're making by Tampa Bay. But Katy, since you brought

297
00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,880
Speaker 1: up the town possession, I want to swift, you know,

298
00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,679
Speaker 1: stay on you here and talk about the Commanded's run game,

299
00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,240
Speaker 1: which has not been you know, as great as as

300
00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,360
Speaker 1: as it has been at the beginning of the year. Obviously,

301
00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,880
Speaker 1: Jade Daniels has been spectacular running the ball, but the

302
00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,080
Speaker 1: rest of it has been a little spotty here and there,

303
00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,480
Speaker 1: particularly between the tackles. And if you're gonna own time

304
00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,319
Speaker 1: with possession, you have to establish a run game to

305
00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,880
Speaker 1: again keep this line's offense off the field. So what

306
00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,480
Speaker 1: do you do against this lines even in front that

307
00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,880
Speaker 1: has been banged up quite a bit but still plays

308
00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:10,720
Speaker 1: a little bit about their talent great?

309
00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,000
Speaker 4: I would actually like to see, And this may come

310
00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,559
Speaker 4: off as a shock for some, I would actually, you know,

311
00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,320
Speaker 4: and I may have not been in the presser if

312
00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,200
Speaker 4: coach quit addresses at all, you know, really wasn't certain

313
00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,440
Speaker 4: why Chris Rodriguez was in active last week, because I

314
00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,360
Speaker 4: would like to see perhaps Chris Rodriguez. I think when

315
00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,960
Speaker 4: we're talking about that speed in between tackles being able

316
00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,080
Speaker 4: to get out, I think Chris Rodriguez is an opportunity

317
00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,320
Speaker 4: to do that as well as Jeremy McNichols. The team

318
00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,960
Speaker 4: does have Austin acklerbet so they can help. But another

319
00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:42,600
Speaker 4: thing that the team did on the fourth and one

320
00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,880
Speaker 4: that I was like, Wow, we really doing this is

321
00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,960
Speaker 4: they brought in Marcus Mariota right. I was like, now,

322
00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,520
Speaker 4: wait a minute, because at this point in time, now

323
00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,840
Speaker 4: is when you see the will starting to spin from

324
00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,840
Speaker 4: a Cliff Kingsbury offense perspective. When I say you'll start

325
00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,320
Speaker 4: to spend, we're going to need to see some creativity

326
00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:02,320
Speaker 4: and some innovation here.

327
00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:03,520
Speaker 1: Right.

328
00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,360
Speaker 3: They know that this the run game.

329
00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:10,480
Speaker 4: Has stalled quite a bit. So what do you do

330
00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,120
Speaker 4: when you start. You gotta get creative. You gotta leverage

331
00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,040
Speaker 4: and utilize those players that can get you that yard.

332
00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:17,640
Speaker 4: And that sounds crazy, right that you got to get

333
00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,400
Speaker 4: creative in order to get you know, fourth and inches

334
00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,000
Speaker 4: or thirte in inches or fourth and one and two.

335
00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,120
Speaker 4: But that's what they had to do just last week

336
00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:29,160
Speaker 4: against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. So not to like call

337
00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,720
Speaker 4: any one player out, but it's obvious they're they're gonna

338
00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,400
Speaker 4: have They're having a tough time with the run game,

339
00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,760
Speaker 4: so they're gonna have to get And it's not necessarily

340
00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,640
Speaker 4: like just making Jaden Use's legs, you know, even more

341
00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,560
Speaker 4: so than he already does, or just taking deep shots

342
00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,920
Speaker 4: down the field when he doesn't necessarily see it as

343
00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,560
Speaker 4: clearly or as openly, But it's really using that creativity

344
00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,200
Speaker 4: and innovation that we know that this that this offensive

345
00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,920
Speaker 4: staff has relying on those plays from a David Blouse,

346
00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,880
Speaker 4: a coach Pritchard, everything else that they're able to do

347
00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,960
Speaker 4: to pull this together because they're absolutely going to need

348
00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,320
Speaker 4: a strong run game on Saturday night. The who is

349
00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,080
Speaker 4: going to bring that strong run game is where we

350
00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,080
Speaker 4: kind of don't know, And I would like to see

351
00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,320
Speaker 4: the team, you know, take a look at Chris Rogriguez

352
00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:18,240
Speaker 4: if he's inactive again, then bring in Marcus Mariota like

353
00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,840
Speaker 4: you did on last Sunday night, and really put more

354
00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,960
Speaker 4: emphasis on Austin Eckler and Jeremy McNicholas.

355
00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,280
Speaker 1: You know, that's a good point because I really did

356
00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,480
Speaker 1: like the way they used Mariota for those like the

357
00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,480
Speaker 1: quarterback sneak stuff, but also putting you know, Jaden in

358
00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,800
Speaker 1: motion a lot. And I also noticed that they were

359
00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,800
Speaker 1: using a lot more speed option plays. It's a triple option,

360
00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,080
Speaker 1: which is like that's always sort of been a little

361
00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,000
Speaker 1: bit of a wrinkle, but you really didn't see all

362
00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,400
Speaker 1: that much of it during the regular season. So David,

363
00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:46,760
Speaker 1: I'll switch over to you here and like, what do

364
00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,680
Speaker 1: you think about the creativity to get like the ring

365
00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,080
Speaker 1: of going a little bit more and like, how much

366
00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,160
Speaker 1: more do you think they can build on that against

367
00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,200
Speaker 1: the lines defense that is, you know, fifth overall for

368
00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:57,600
Speaker 1: the season and rushing yards per game.

369
00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think you need to have your

370
00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,320
Speaker 5: your primary plan, which could be to do a little

371
00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,880
Speaker 5: bit more of what you saw against Tampa Bay, but you.

372
00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,720
Speaker 2: Also needed to have your contingency plan.

373
00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,480
Speaker 5: And I think that when you get deeper into the

374
00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,520
Speaker 5: weeds of how do we solve this running problem, you

375
00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,000
Speaker 5: don't you don't need to get more complex. If you

376
00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,040
Speaker 5: have to get into that contingency plan, you have to

377
00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:17,920
Speaker 5: get more back to basics. And I think that is

378
00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,280
Speaker 5: where a guy that Chris Rodery hasn't come into to

379
00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,560
Speaker 5: what Kenny was saying, Like, if you've turned to Chris Roderiz,

380
00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,720
Speaker 5: that means that maybe some of the polls, some of

381
00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,119
Speaker 5: the traps, some of the outside runs, some of the

382
00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:29,920
Speaker 5: zone reads and all that stuff, maybe they're not working

383
00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,560
Speaker 5: against his Lions defense. So if we're gonna switch gears

384
00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,720
Speaker 5: to Chris Roderiez's get back to basics. Man, Let's just

385
00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,240
Speaker 5: tell each guy on the line of scrimmage, this is

386
00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,880
Speaker 5: your dude. Put some put some manful manipulation on them.

387
00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,199
Speaker 5: Move them from the spot spot A to spot B. Chris,

388
00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,320
Speaker 5: this is the gap that you're gonna run through. Hit

389
00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,800
Speaker 5: that whole hit it hard, fall forward, and Plute sees

390
00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:48,800
Speaker 5: Detroit Lions delivered.

391
00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:50,400
Speaker 2: Some body blows. Because the thing.

392
00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:54,120
Speaker 5: About the Detroit Lions defense that's interesting is, yes, their

393
00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,760
Speaker 5: yards per per game on the ground that they're giving

394
00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,360
Speaker 5: up is low, but the yards per carry that they're

395
00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,439
Speaker 5: giving up is actually not as low. It's actually one

396
00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,960
Speaker 5: of the higher averages in the league. What's happening is

397
00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,199
Speaker 5: that a lot of times teams are falling behind to

398
00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,080
Speaker 5: the Detroit Lions, so they're going to their pass game

399
00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:09,680
Speaker 5: really quick because they feel like they have to keep

400
00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,119
Speaker 5: up in this track meet or like I said before,

401
00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,119
Speaker 5: they're changing up who they are. They're saying, you know,

402
00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,040
Speaker 5: we usually like to establish the run, establish this ground game,

403
00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:18,760
Speaker 5: control of the clock. We know we need to swing,

404
00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,159
Speaker 5: you know, blow for blow this Troy Lions defense or offense.

405
00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,040
Speaker 5: And it kind of does the job for the Troy

406
00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,719
Speaker 5: Lions defense themselves. They kind of simplify themselves and they

407
00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,720
Speaker 5: just come out trying to pass the ball all over

408
00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:29,040
Speaker 5: the yard.

409
00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:29,640
Speaker 2: So I like to.

410
00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,440
Speaker 5: See that kind of goes back to the commanders, just

411
00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,560
Speaker 5: kind of staying true to who you are. What I

412
00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,119
Speaker 5: really liked about what they did against Tampa is we

413
00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,760
Speaker 5: saw I felt like more designed passes to running backs.

414
00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,760
Speaker 5: And you know, I've always kind I've said all season longly,

415
00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,959
Speaker 5: Jane Daniels doesn't really check down his checkdown and his running.

416
00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,240
Speaker 5: So when you see them throw a short pass to

417
00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,360
Speaker 5: a tied end, a short pass to a running back,

418
00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,000
Speaker 5: typically it's part of the play design only James dropping

419
00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,760
Speaker 5: back looking deep to push the defensive umbrella deep and

420
00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,840
Speaker 5: then throw it underneath Austin Eckler. It might look like

421
00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,360
Speaker 5: a up off, but really that's the play design from

422
00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:03,000
Speaker 5: the play call.

423
00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,080
Speaker 2: I like that they did that a little bit more

424
00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:05,640
Speaker 2: against Tampa.

425
00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,520
Speaker 5: But because you take advantage of their aggression is going

426
00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,840
Speaker 5: to usually clear up some spots behind the line of scrimmage.

427
00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,480
Speaker 2: But also knowing that you got guys like.

428
00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,119
Speaker 5: Terry McLaurin Diami Brown that can kind of push to

429
00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:16,879
Speaker 5: the field deep, so the Buccaneers have to keep that

430
00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,200
Speaker 5: shell out there and you take advantage of that soft

431
00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,359
Speaker 5: middle from those from those perspectives.

432
00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,280
Speaker 2: That they do collapse on those middle short routes.

433
00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,439
Speaker 5: Well, now you've got a quarterback, they can get outside

434
00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,639
Speaker 5: of that protection or outside of that coverage and do

435
00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,680
Speaker 5: damage that way. I like to see him continue to

436
00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,800
Speaker 5: kind of do those types of things. And looking at

437
00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,520
Speaker 5: Brian ro Robinson like that's a guy that everybody wants

438
00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,919
Speaker 5: to get going again. He was going really well in

439
00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,080
Speaker 5: the beginning of the season, you know, middle of the season,

440
00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,119
Speaker 5: dealt with some injuries here in the last half of

441
00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,200
Speaker 5: this year, our last portion that he's really just kind

442
00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:44,440
Speaker 5: of has gotten bogged down.

443
00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:45,600
Speaker 2: We saw it last.

444
00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,560
Speaker 5: Year with Sam Hall and Eric the Enemy. Some of

445
00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,480
Speaker 5: it was by his hunts, some of it was a

446
00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,280
Speaker 5: survival mode from Sam Howell. But Brian Robinson can be

447
00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,240
Speaker 5: a threat in the passing game. He can do some

448
00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,240
Speaker 5: damage as a receiver out of the backfield. So we

449
00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,119
Speaker 5: you know Austin Eckler can do do that as well.

450
00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,440
Speaker 2: I think Jerry McNichols has some ability there.

451
00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,399
Speaker 5: Chris Roder, he has one one career catchup. I'm telling you,

452
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,560
Speaker 5: the dude can catch better than he's given credit for.

453
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 5: So you have four backs that you potentially use in

454
00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,040
Speaker 5: that mode. So whether it's physically actually running the ball

455
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,600
Speaker 5: and doing getting better at it, or using that short

456
00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,159
Speaker 5: pass game as an extension of the run game. Combine

457
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:18,480
Speaker 5: a little bit of what you did last week, but

458
00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,000
Speaker 5: also had that contingency planet. Look, if that's not working,

459
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:22,840
Speaker 5: just give Chris the ball and let him just hammer

460
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,000
Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage and do some damage that way.

461
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,360
Speaker 5: Because this Troy line, I think it's four point one

462
00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,400
Speaker 5: yards in the middle of the field, four yards either

463
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:31,199
Speaker 5: side the left of the right.

464
00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 2: They're giving up yards per carry. You just have to

465
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,480
Speaker 2: figure out how to get those yards out of them.

466
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I really am interested to see if

467
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,560
Speaker 1: Chris Rodorigins will be active because I do like what

468
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,639
Speaker 1: he does whenever he's on the field. He came up

469
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 1: really big for them and a lot of clutch spots there.

470
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,399
Speaker 1: And you bring in the point about b robbing the

471
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,480
Speaker 1: passing game, and people forget one of the most explosive

472
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,760
Speaker 1: plays he had was against the Seahawks on a pass

473
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 1: play down the left sideline to score that touchdown. I

474
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,639
Speaker 1: mean that was for that That game is probably, you know,

475
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 1: one of the offense his best games last year. That

476
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,439
Speaker 1: was definitely one of the more electric players. Now, Candy,

477
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 1: we mentioned staying True, who Washington's is on offense now,

478
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 1: but there's also a very you know, obviously there's a

479
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 1: possibility that the commanders will be down seven maybe even

480
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 1: double diggit points here at some point. So how how

481
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,680
Speaker 1: do they avoid the temptation of, like David said, just okay,

482
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 1: we need to throw all over the yard here instead

483
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,719
Speaker 1: of just okay, we're down ten points. We're fine. We

484
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 1: just need to keep saying who we are, run the ball,

485
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 1: get some get some traction on offense, and then all

486
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:34,440
Speaker 1: of a sudden we're back into it.

487
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 4: I think I think that's where and this is the

488
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 4: name that we really hadn't talked about, right because of

489
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,199
Speaker 4: the course, because of the great questions that you're asking,

490
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,879
Speaker 4: But that is where we'll have to focus in on

491
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,639
Speaker 4: quarterback play, right, We'll have to see you.

492
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 1: Jaden.

493
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:54,399
Speaker 4: Daniels remained the cool calm and collected that kid, Jaden

494
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:58,399
Speaker 4: that he is right, Like if he keeps the same

495
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 4: you know, just poise, like everybody's been saying for like,

496
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,880
Speaker 4: you know, the last year that we've all been covering him.

497
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 4: If he continues that, I think they can get that done, right,

498
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 4: because then that also aligns with time of possession, right,

499
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 4: you're not You're not in desperation mode. You're not taking

500
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 4: us back when you should have thrown it out right

501
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 4: or you just you know, And and some of that

502
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 4: has to do with the offensive line, haven't you know,

503
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 4: really brought that up, because we know that that group

504
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 4: had a strong start, but then to start, you know,

505
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 4: dealing with some injuries and having to you know, share,

506
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,400
Speaker 4: you know, show their versatility of people having to move

507
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 4: move about across the line, and folks stand it out

508
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 4: due to injuries.

509
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 3: But I do think.

510
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 4: They can keep a part of that identity because so

511
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 4: much of who the Washington commanders are it's because of

512
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 4: who Jane Dale is. Dan Quinn talked earlier this week

513
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 4: they still all had faith. So if he keeps that mentality,

514
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 4: I think that is the key nucleus of them remaining

515
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 4: who they are.

516
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really do think so. And you're right, we

517
00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 1: haven't really talked about Jaden that much. We have should

518
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 1: have been doing that because he has been, i mean,

519
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 1: the catalyst for this for this entire for this entire run.

520
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 1: They've been onto the like after the bye week. But yeah,

521
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 1: you know, and David, we'll we'll we'll wrap this one

522
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: up here by going to you, I mean the Jade

523
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 1: and Daniels of it all. And how how crucial is

524
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 1: that going to be to keep to keep to their

525
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: to keep to their identity on offense because he is

526
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 1: such a cool and conquct to guy and this is

527
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 1: such a hostile environment. How important is that going to

528
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 1: be as a head into this really you know, intense matchup.

529
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I mean he sets the Tony makes it run,

530
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 5: you know what I mean going into the wildcard round,

531
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 5: that was something that I talked about before that game.

532
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 5: Wanted to see where we had seen Jaden kind of

533
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 5: put on the cape in the second.

534
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 2: Half of a lot of these games recently.

535
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 5: Uh, you know, manufacture some running offense where there wasn't

536
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 5: a rushing offense and do those types of things, and

537
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 5: you know, not completely carry the team on his back,

538
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 5: because I think saying that completely would you'll be disrespectful.

539
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,679
Speaker 2: Some of the some of the other players, but you know, putting.

540
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 5: A lot of that on his on his own shoulders

541
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 5: and saying I'm going to make some things happen, whether

542
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 5: it's extending players to give guys opportunities to get open,

543
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 5: things like that.

544
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,120
Speaker 2: And I wanted to see him do that earlier against.

545
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,919
Speaker 5: Stampa Bay Buccaneers, because Buccaneers defense was one that in

546
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 5: the second half of games historically, they really weren't giving.

547
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 2: Up a lot of offense.

548
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,199
Speaker 5: And I felt like if they had to wait, if

549
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 5: the Washington Bearers had to wait until the second half

550
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 5: to really try to turn it on, and by that time,

551
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 5: with the momentum and all that stuff.

552
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 2: It may be a little bit too late. So to

553
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 2: see Jayden kind of do a little bit.

554
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 5: Of that in the first half and that Buccaneers game

555
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 5: was really encouraging. I think it's it's kind of part

556
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 5: of the progression of him as a leader of this

557
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 5: team to where it's not just Okay, now you need be.

558
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 2: So I'll turn it on. It's no, It's turned on

559
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,640
Speaker 2: from from the first minute of the game.

560
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 5: And I think you're gonna need that again with the

561
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 5: Troy Lions. And you know, look so far, I mean

562
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 5: so far, the dude's unflappable. And I know the Troy Lions.

563
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 5: Part of their part of their game plan, part of

564
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 5: all the lines Mediah they're talking about, is they've got

565
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 5: to bother Jade and they've got to shake him. They've

566
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 5: got to rattle them. They've got to make him understand.

567
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 5: Like you know that that playoff atmosphere, this one's different.

568
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 2: But so far nobody's been able to do it.

569
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 5: I don't know if if ford Field is gonna be

570
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 5: able to do it, But as long as Jayden stays cool, calm, collective,

571
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,199
Speaker 5: like you're saying, and then go out there with the

572
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 5: mindset of I'm going to make the plays that my

573
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 5: team needs me to make, no matter what the situation is,

574
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 5: no matter what time is on the clock. I think

575
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 5: that that's gonna go a long way to keeping the

576
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 5: news game.

577
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 2: You know.

578
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: All I have to say is, as one point, the

579
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers had two spies on Jane Daniels during

580
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, and two spies is crazy.

581
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 2: You know.

582
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: That just shows you how much respect they have for him.

583
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: And he burned him because I had said, Okay, you're

584
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 1: just gonna let me not let me run.

585
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 2: That's fine.

586
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 1: I got a lot of players open down field.

587
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 2: Whatever.

588
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: So we're gonna move on to last question here. I

589
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 1: will keep the score to myself because I want to

590
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 1: keep that lads a little bit of a surprise heading

591
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,959
Speaker 1: in this last round here. And as I mentioned. You know,

592
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 1: the Lions offense full of playmakers. I'm on Rossaint Brown,

593
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: You've got you know, Jerry Goff, You've got Jamior Gibbs.

594
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: All these guys are are just so potent in terms

595
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: of if you had to pick one, if you had

596
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: to be picky, here can you We'll start with you here,

597
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: since you are the undefeated champion, who's one player this

598
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 1: defense just absolutely has to stop if they're going to

599
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: pull out Detroit with a win. Jared Goff.

600
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 4: I mean I would, I would literally say, you know,

601
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 4: my gut is Jamar Gibbs, straight up. But another thing

602
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 4: that this defense hasn't been able to do when we

603
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 4: you know, consistently is get to the quarterback. Get to

604
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 4: the quarterback early and often.

605
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 2: Right.

606
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 4: You might see it a little bit, don't see it

607
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 4: a whole lot. You get Jared off of his game.

608
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 4: It's very similar push.

609
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 3: To what that I know.

610
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 4: We all know that they're going to try to do

611
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 4: the Jadin. But if Jared Goff has a bad game,

612
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 4: it will be because of the commands defense, and that's

613
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 4: what would have to happen. I'm saying, zoom in on

614
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 4: Jared Goff, zoom in on the orchestrator in the in

615
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 4: the person that is the conductor. If you will out

616
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 4: on the field, like I said, my gun will say

617
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 4: Jamar Gibbs, right, because it's like the obvious answer. But

618
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 4: I'm still like getting to that quarterback, just like they're

619
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,360
Speaker 4: going to try to get the James.

620
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 3: It's absolutely what this Commander's defense has to do.

621
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 4: There's been questions about we talk a lot about establishing

622
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 4: the run. We've also talked about stopping the run, but

623
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 4: that starts with rattling the quarterback.

624
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 3: So getting to Golf early and often, I think that's

625
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 3: who they have to zoom in on.

626
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: Look, Golf is completing seventy two point four percent of

627
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: his pass just thirty seven toutdowns, twelve interceptions, been sacked

628
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,479
Speaker 1: thirty one times. But he really is the thing that

629
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: makes that offense go. And they, I mean the Detroit fans,

630
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 1: they they chant his name all the time to let

631
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: him know exactly how much they appreciate him. David, same

632
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: question to you, if you had to pick one player

633
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 1: on this line's offensive stop for the Commanders defense, who

634
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: would it be? And why?

635
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna cheat a little bit, and if you

636
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 5: don't let me get away with it. I do have

637
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 5: an actual player to name, but it's Ben Johnson. And

638
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 5: I don't mean you had to stifle the attire Detroit

639
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 5: Lions offense. What I mean is when you look at

640
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 5: the Troy Lions history, especially their losses, their guys still

641
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:57,959
Speaker 5: get yards. Like at the end of the day, it's

642
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 5: kind of a hope to contain because you can't stop them.

643
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 5: Type of situation like am Andara is gonna get a

644
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 5: little bit of his Jamison Williams, you know, Sam Laporta.

645
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 5: All these guys are gonna get a little bit of

646
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 5: offense no matter what. Even if you win, that's that

647
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 5: line's still gonna look good for some of those guys.

648
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 5: Ben Johnson loves trick plays. He loves misdirection. He loves

649
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 5: getting guys out of their gaps, out of their zones,

650
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 5: out of their fits by using slight of hand.

651
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 2: He's kind of a magician that way.

652
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 5: He's got his basic, straight up offense, of course, but

653
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 5: he likes to dial up these things that cause great plays.

654
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 5: Kind of what really should be a very simple, you know,

655
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 5: three yard game turns into a thirteen yard game because.

656
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 2: This linebacker got out of his own because.

657
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 5: Of this misdirection, this thing that he showed him that

658
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 5: got that player off till That is where I think

659
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 5: this game is gonna be wonder loss ultimately, is if

660
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 5: Ben Johnson pulls out a little triggeration, a little something cute,

661
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 5: a little bit of slight of hand, and this Commander's

662
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 5: defense stays home, stays pat, isn't tricked by the triggeration,

663
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 5: then I think they're gonna.

664
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: Be able to handle that. Well.

665
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 5: If they don't, I'm not saying it's gonna be what

666
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 5: was like forty one to six.

667
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 2: I think last year is what it was, you know,

668
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 2: Lion's Cowboys. I don't think it's gonna be anything crazy

669
00:28:59,200 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: like that.

670
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 5: They give up some of these cheap plays, you know,

671
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 5: a five yard slant that turns into a twenty yard

672
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 5: game because somebody was out of position because they saw

673
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 5: something they thought with something else.

674
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 2: That's where this team can get really into trouble.

675
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 5: So that's where I think the team's gonna stop Ben

676
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 5: Johnson is by not letting him get those cheap yards

677
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 5: from those Q plays.

678
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: And I mean you could see the respect that these

679
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: that these coaches for the Commanders have for Ben Johnson.

680
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: He is objectively speaking. One of the best offensive minds

681
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: in the league right now. He has been for the

682
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: last couple of years. He's so innovative, so creative with

683
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: the way he runs that offense, and he really does

684
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: like to just be in his bag with some creative

685
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: plays out there. And as Joe had said, you gotta

686
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: trust your eyes, you gotta slay disciplined, and Ben Johnson

687
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: will make you test that discipline time and time again.

688
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: So final decision here. Both did really good, really good

689
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: answers here. Candy, you were up by one point, so

690
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: you had a little bit of an advantage heading into it. Man,

691
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: I think I gotta go with David's answer for going

692
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: after the architect himself and Johnson. I think that was

693
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: an excellent answer. David, you have won. You have dethroned Candy,

694
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: giving her her first loss of the season. Do you

695
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: have any parting words of victory for us as we

696
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: head into the weekend.

697
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 5: I'm gonna have to crank dreams and nightmares because the

698
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 5: underdog won. But you know what can't he still deserves

699
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 5: her flowers. So one of the best reporters on this beat,

700
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 5: so you know, wouldn't rather go up against anybody else

701
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 5: other than candy.

702
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 4: And let me go ahead and say David admitted that

703
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 4: he cheated. That's the only reason why. That's like I

704
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 4: want that on the pod. He cheated because come on, now,

705
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 4: you already know I was blesting that tail. I answered

706
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 4: the question that was asked. He did not all good.

707
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: You know, I'm thinking is he was thinking outside the box,

708
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: being creative.

709
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 3: But yeah, like you know, he admitted it, he cheated.

710
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 5: He didn't answer the question I got, I got, I

711
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 5: got in Ben Johnson.

712
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 3: Mode Leslie clear in the long run, cheata's never win.

713
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: But you echo, David, Yes, you're right. Kay Kenny, you

714
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: have been just spectacular. One of my favorite people on

715
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: you went, David, Both of you guys, I have great

716
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: answers to to to all the questions I give, and

717
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: it's it's great playing along with you guys. That's why

718
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: I'm always just very happy to have you guys on

719
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: the pod. But like David, hopefully the Commanders will be

720
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: dethroning the Detroit Lions for who for what it's worth

721
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: our h and three against the cannetitors in the playoffs.

722
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: Just throwing that out there, not that it matters really

723
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: in terms of the grand scheme of things, but it

724
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: is a good little bit of who've been a history

725
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: to know, uh and they will be. They could be

726
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: handed to the NFC Championship for the first time since

727
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: I think it's the nineteen ninety one season. We all

728
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: know what happened then. But until then, maybe we'll see

729
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: you till the next week, maybe we won't. But either way, regardless,

730
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: you should be great reviewing and subscribing wherever get your podcast,

731
00:31:54,600 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: and this has been the beatdown