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Speaker 1: to bring in Lex Curse, the maker. So I pronounced

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Speaker 1: that right? Yes, I fabulous. He is President and CEO

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Speaker 1: of Volvo Cars of North America here at the North

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Speaker 1: American International Auto Show. Um, Lex, what has surprised you

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Speaker 1: about this show? Just looking in general? Has anything? Um?

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Speaker 1: I think what you what you see here is is

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Speaker 1: the trends, which is going on, more pickup trucks, more

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Speaker 1: SUVs and UH and autonomost drive is the um let's say,

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Speaker 1: it's the hot words out today. Yeah, but is that

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Speaker 1: from demand from consumers or is it for auto companies

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Speaker 1: to feel like they've got a toe hold in what

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Speaker 1: could come perhaps in the next decade. No. I think

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Speaker 1: we as automotive manufacturers, we need to be a little

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Speaker 1: bit ahead of the of the gang, and we strongly

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Speaker 1: believe at least I speak for Volvo. We we have

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Speaker 1: a very clear vision by twenty twenty nobody should be

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Speaker 1: killed or seriously injured in a Volvo car, and autonomous

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Speaker 1: drive is a very important ingredient of of of reaching

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Speaker 1: that target. So I think it's it's driven where the

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Speaker 1: automotive industry is going in the future. Let's talk about

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Speaker 1: Volvo cars. You did what about a half a million

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Speaker 1: at last last year? We we had a we had

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Speaker 1: a third in a row record, a year in a

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Speaker 1: row record for five and thirty four thousand units. Okay,

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Speaker 1: five thirty four thousand units. Let's look at the sort

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Speaker 1: of breakdown of those units and what you see for

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Speaker 1: the future. Uh, the Let's start with what you're going

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Speaker 1: to unveil or trying to unveil today. What is up

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Speaker 1: with this T eight hybrid drive train with a combined

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Speaker 1: combustion engine. Now we have we have the EXCE ninety

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Speaker 1: and that is the the T eight. It's an electrical

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Speaker 1: motor and it's a force clinder force clinder engine. So

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Speaker 1: you have the best out of two worlds. You can

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Speaker 1: drive electric and you can drive with your regular combustion engine.

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Speaker 1: What will show today is is another step in what

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Speaker 1: we again, I'm talking about autonomous drive. Um, we will

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Speaker 1: start a project in Sweden end of this year where

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Speaker 1: we hand over one cars too regular customers who are

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Speaker 1: going to experience what autonomous drive means in their daily life.

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Speaker 1: And that's the This isn't Goldenburg, Sweden? Where where where

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Speaker 1: the Volvo headquarter is? What about in the US? I mean,

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Speaker 1: how concerned are you lex about the political backtrap and

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Speaker 1: interfering with Volvo's plans to unveiled both autonomous cars as

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Speaker 1: well as manufactured things in the cheapest possible manner. Um,

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Speaker 1: let me take a step back. We we have decided

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Speaker 1: to build a factory in the United States because of Trump.

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Speaker 1: That was far before President Electron came in came into

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Speaker 1: the picture. We decided this is in South Carolina. This

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Speaker 1: is in South Carolina. We decided that two years ago

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Speaker 1: we will start producing cars mid two thousand eighteen. We

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Speaker 1: built that factory in the United States because we wanted

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Speaker 1: to be in the United States. Of course, Mexico was

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Speaker 1: an option. There are other places where we could go.

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Speaker 1: We wanted to be here because Volver has been here

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Speaker 1: for sixty years. So it has nothing to do with

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Speaker 1: with with the existing discussion. The discussion is about autonomous drivers.

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Speaker 1: We believe in something as much we believed in producing

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Speaker 1: cars in the United States, we believe in autonomous drive.

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Speaker 1: But do you think that from a regulatory standpoint that

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Speaker 1: you will be allowed to test autonomous cars in a

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Speaker 1: in the United States the way that you are saying, sweet, Well,

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Speaker 1: that's a good question. And I think that the NIZA

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Speaker 1: solution on a from a federal perspective, ALMO allowing manufacturers

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Speaker 1: to test and because that's a prequisite you you we

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Speaker 1: can't sell cars which you can't drive from California to Arizona.

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Speaker 1: You have to stop. So I think that's a prequisite

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Speaker 1: for the autonomous drive. Yes, just quickly, you're gonna be

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Speaker 1: importing a car into the United States that's made with

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Speaker 1: your partner Geely in China. We are we are, we

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Speaker 1: global company. We have factories all over the world, and

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Speaker 1: do it as well. Thanks very much, Lexa kursen Maker's

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Speaker 1: for Volvo. We are ready for some transformation and we

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Speaker 1: have two gentlemen that can help us. Kevin Tynan is

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Speaker 1: our senior autos analyst for Bloomberg Intelligence. He can be

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Speaker 1: followed on Twitter at keV tyn in ten and also

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Speaker 1: joining us is David Welch, our Detroit bureau chief for

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Speaker 1: Bloomberg News. David Welch, I want to start with you,

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Speaker 1: because first I want to thank you for having us

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Speaker 1: bureau and arranging for a very nice dinner last night.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. What is the biggest theme we We've been

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Speaker 1: is it hybrid vehicles, or is it just or is

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Speaker 1: it just really I'm gonna get to the Honda truck

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Speaker 1: in a second. But is or is it trucks? What's

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Speaker 1: the theme for you? Well, the market is always trucks,

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Speaker 1: That's what everybody's buying. Um. But what I find interesting,

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Speaker 1: honestly is the number of cars and evs that are

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Speaker 1: is only gonna husher in more of that. He's drill,

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Speaker 1: baby drill, He's franc baby frank. Um. You know, he

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Speaker 1: every kind, which which means gasoline will be cheap for

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Speaker 1: as far as the eye can see. And people buy

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Speaker 1: big stuff. But at this show, we've got a new

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Speaker 1: You're You're the one. You were the statistic on the

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Speaker 1: because resale values have also been going uh down. So David,

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Speaker 1: there's well, there are a couple of reasons that you're

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Speaker 1: more thrifty. So, Kevin, would you agree with that sort

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Speaker 1: come and you'll buy it. They're involved in that investment,

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Speaker 1: and then it's able to be scalable. So if if

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Speaker 1: and their emissions requirements. That way free to sell as

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Speaker 1: great example. So you know, the things that we're doing

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Speaker 1: we've talked to a number of analysts who said that

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Speaker 1: the auto industry just in general has been plateau ing

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Speaker 1: after a number of years of pretty rapid growth over

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Speaker 1: stay at the sort of plateau. Yeah. I always smile

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Speaker 1: when people say it's plateauing. It's plateau ing at the

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Speaker 1: highest level we've ever seen. Last year was another all

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Speaker 1: to be very strong again. Um, it will either be

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Speaker 1: another record, it will be very close to it. So

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Speaker 1: we're expecting a very very strong two thousand side. And

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Speaker 1: do you think that it will be largely composed of

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Speaker 1: trucks the way that it has been Obviously trucks and

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Speaker 1: SUVs have obviously been driven by the lower fuel prices.

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Speaker 1: We expect fuel prices to stay pretty much where they

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Speaker 1: are today through seventeen. So yes, we think that you'll

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Speaker 1: see that continued growth. All right, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Alan Beatty, executive and vice president president of North America

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Speaker 1: of General Motors, here with us at the International Auto

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