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Speaker 1: Whoo whoo? And no, Dan and Tie Dan Rubinstein, welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the show, my good friend. We are recording

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Speaker 1: this on Labor Day, and the question of the day,

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Speaker 1: how is your voice doing? It didn't sound so hot

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Speaker 2: I feel good. My voice is still on the mend.

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Speaker 2: to grind it out and just you know, move those chains, Ti,

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Speaker 1: We will get to more specific recaps about Yes, Notre Dame, Miami,

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Speaker 1: the week. That was just a few observations, things that

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Speaker 1: preview episode, mister Rubinstein, and then of course I will

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Speaker 2: I think all all those things sound very fun to

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Speaker 2: may tie, so count me in.

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Speaker 1: How much of the Notre Dame in Miami game did

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Speaker 2: I watched some of it live, all of it this.

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Speaker 1: Morning, twenty seven to twenty four. The Miami Hurricanes end

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Speaker 1: See what I liked most about Miami, at least earlier

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Speaker 1: Still mixed on Carson Beck, but played a smart game.

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Speaker 2: Whooh that one handed catch, Buddy.

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Speaker 1: That's a really good game from Ruben Bain. He was everywhere.

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Speaker 1: The Notre Dame line also did make a bunch of mistakes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Heathman did a really good job in this game. Also

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Speaker 2: it Tammy carry Car's mom? She was the Anthony beckt

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Speaker 2: of this game. Yes, absolutely the Anthony beck of this game. Now,

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Speaker 2: Corey heathererman man, I was. I watched the game with

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Speaker 1: You know? I even said to her, if you told

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Speaker 2: It's a really good one.

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Speaker 1: It's so good. I listened on the radio on the

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Speaker 1: My overwhelming sentiment in this game was that both these

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Speaker 2: It's he ain't inside a dome. Yeah, he's not it.

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Speaker 2: No glare, no winds, no elements.

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Speaker 1: Virginia Tech with a better quarterback that can deliver in

435
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Speaker 1: some of those key moments is probably a different conversation now,

436
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Speaker 1: Karen Jrones, ain't it? It just isn't. Now, Maybe it's

437
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 1: a different team if they get Terry and Stewart back.

438
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Speaker 1: He didn't play because he's dealing with the boot thing

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Speaker 1: that we talked about on the preview. Maybe a little

440
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Speaker 1: bit more of a compliment in the backfield will help.

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Speaker 1: But bad passes, if not drop passes, penalties. They should

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Speaker 1: be better than this. It should be we could be

443
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Speaker 1: looking at the beginning of the end here of Brent Pry.

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Speaker 1: I just I came away very underwhelmed.

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Speaker 2: Where are we going next?

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Speaker 1: Next, we're going to talk about other observations from the weekend.

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Speaker 1: If you're cool with that, I would love to.

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Speaker 2: Heay, what happened?

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Speaker 1: What'd you think of Nico iamaliavat UCLA?

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Speaker 2: I mean it's more what I thought of def and

451
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Speaker 2: Dan Pierre at Utah. But yes, it's just tough. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the line, the receivers, the running game. He was the

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Speaker 2: running game, I believe, which is not a great sign

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Speaker 2: for UCLA. UCLA's defense couldn't get off the fields, which

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Speaker 2: just makes things harder for him, forces him to feel

456
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Speaker 2: like he has to do everything on every play. Can't

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Speaker 2: imagine we're gonna be spending a lot of time on

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Speaker 2: Nico this year, just because I don't think we're gonna

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Speaker 2: be spending a lot of time on Ucla this year,

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Speaker 2: barring some sort of like hey, this was the first

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Speaker 2: game Utah has a tough opponent. They appear to have

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Speaker 2: done enough on offense that they can overwhelm teams and

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Speaker 2: look like a playoff contender. Sure, but UCLA is playing

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Speaker 2: in the Big Ten schedule is not gonna be easy. No,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, didn't think much of him the story. To me,

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Speaker 2: it was all Utah though forty three to.

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Speaker 1: Ten was the final. Yeah, Devin dan Pierre looked good.

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Speaker 1: Utah looked good.

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Speaker 2: The fourteen of sixteen on third down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this was not a great showing for UCLA really

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Speaker 1: in any facet. They were just completely overwhelmed by a

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Speaker 1: Utah team that could be underrated this year. And it

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Speaker 1: was part of what we brought up in the previews.

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Speaker 1: We just didn't know to what degree we should value

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Speaker 1: some of these new faces, notably Dan Pierre, notably their

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Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator, both of whom came up from New Mexico.

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Speaker 1: So they got off to a really hot start. And

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Speaker 1: if you're thinking bigger picture in terms of the Big twelve,

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Speaker 1: that's a very interesting conversation if we're going to get

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Speaker 1: this type of performance week in and week out from Utah.

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Speaker 1: But I'm still hung up on the Ucla thing. I

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Speaker 1: just am. And this is not me trying to dunk

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Speaker 1: on Nico. I have never met the kid, I probably

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Speaker 1: never will, and I don't wish ill will upon anybody.

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Speaker 1: But I just cannot get it out of my head

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Speaker 1: that Nico's camp or somebody around Nico was putting out

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Speaker 1: this Kakamami theory that he wanted a better supporting cast

488
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Speaker 1: and he went to UCLA for that. There's nothing better

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Speaker 1: about this team at UCLA than at Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: Nothing.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he is better at quarterback as an upgrade, but

492
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Speaker 1: literally nothing else is better.

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Speaker 2: They have three winnable games coming up, so they could

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Speaker 2: start the season three to one and figure out some

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Speaker 2: sort of rhythm. There's I mean, there are wins on

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Speaker 2: this schedule.

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Speaker 1: If they're decent, there are wins, and it is way

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Speaker 1: too soon to write off anybody at this point. I agree,

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Speaker 1: can't write off anybody at this point. Week one is

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Speaker 1: always an aberration. Teams always improve from week one to

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Speaker 1: week two.

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Speaker 2: I see what you're about to say. The manner in

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Speaker 2: which they.

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Speaker 1: Lost it just was. It was toothless. There was nothing

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Speaker 1: about that that felt optimistic to me. Yeah, at home,

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Speaker 1: USC for staying out on the West coast, hung seventy

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Speaker 1: three on Missouri State. Welcome to FBS Missouri State.

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 1: They got absolutely drilled a good game from Jade Mayava

510
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Speaker 1: Whussan Longstreet came in and went nine for nine in

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Speaker 1: this game.

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Speaker 2: Ran well, Yeah, had a fumble, had a fumble. USC

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Speaker 2: was they were they were lightning. Yeah against Missouri State.

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Speaker 1: It looked really good. I mean, for whatever that's worth.

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Speaker 1: But look, you'll take that in week one. I don't

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Speaker 1: care what team you're talking about. You will take seventy

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Speaker 1: three points to start things off. We're just gonna have

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Speaker 1: to see how they evolve as they get into more

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Speaker 1: of the meat of that schedule.

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Speaker 2: They've got undefeated Perdue on the road in a couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks.

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Speaker 1: Ty Purdue wants thirty one.

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Speaker 2: Nip nip zip, nip nip zip nil Yep, yeah, perdue

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Speaker 2: shut out ball State. I want to say all State yeah.

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Speaker 2: And Notre Dame has Purdue in a few weeks. I

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Speaker 2: believe as well.

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Speaker 1: Watchower makers could be spoiler makers in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: What else you got from this weekend?

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Speaker 2: Washington played Colorado State pretty tightly until they eventually I

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Speaker 2: think in the fourth quarter ran away with it. A

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Speaker 2: really nice day offensively, some good adjustments on defense for Washington,

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Speaker 2: but colorad State it was running well for a chunk

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Speaker 2: of this game, so they've got that to figure out

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Speaker 2: moving forward. I think they've got Ohio State not in

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Speaker 2: a terribly long time. I believe. If you're looking at

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Speaker 2: the Washington schedule, I am not. At the moment, Colorado

537
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Speaker 2: State solid team. It's week one. I imagine Washington's going

538
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Speaker 2: to improve. I'd much rather be a Washington fan in

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Speaker 2: this moment than a Washington State fan who barely got

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Speaker 2: by Idaho late in that one. That's Idaho with the

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Speaker 2: first year head coach as last year's coach moved on

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Speaker 2: to New Mexico Wazoo and Oregon State are going to

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Speaker 2: have themselves a long year, it seems. In this moment

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Speaker 2: we mentioned a little bit of the Jaron Kiave Sanga

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Speaker 2: Poola La Teley vision. You were close, I was close

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Speaker 2: songa so Oh Poola Songapoola Telly, Here you go songapool

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Speaker 2: it Telly vision. He started hot. The true freshman quarterback,

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Speaker 2: the lefty for Cal. Oregon State just really had no

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Speaker 2: answer and didn't do a terrible amount offensively, but they

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Speaker 2: settled in and made it a little bit more earthy.

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Speaker 1: Was okay.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was pretty good. Sorry, but I think

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Speaker 2: if Cal can you know the receiver's name for Cal,

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Speaker 2: Who's gonna pop this year? Tron Grizzle, Tronde t ro

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Speaker 2: O n D Trond Grizzle.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely great name Cal is interesting to me, man, they are.

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Speaker 2: And I have a ton of pop.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, I brought this outside of Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I brought this up when we did previews because it

560
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Speaker 1: definitely feels like it's a bit of a last gasp

561
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Speaker 1: from Justin Wilcox to make this work. Sure, and there

562
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Speaker 1: have been some head scratching moves like Brian Harson to

563
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Speaker 1: run the offense. Okay, whatever, whatever floats your boat, right,

564
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: but jks, we should just call him. That looked awesome,

565
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Speaker 1: really good as a true freshman getting this start. I

566
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Speaker 1: thought a lot of the newcomers on the cow side

567
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Speaker 1: actually looked quite good as well. And my theory of

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Speaker 1: the case with the Cal Golden Bears this season is

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Speaker 1: not that they're going nine to three. It's just that

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Speaker 1: they find themselves in a bunch of interesting situations this season,

571
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Speaker 1: Like if you look up and down this schedule, now,

572
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Speaker 1: if they're going to get real pop at quarterback from

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Speaker 1: this freshman, and it's probably a bit premature to assume

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Speaker 1: they're going to get this every week. It was Oregon

575
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Speaker 1: State August State played no defense a year ago, so

576
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Speaker 1: take that for what it's worth. But I suddenly start

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Speaker 1: looking at games a couple weeks from now on the

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Speaker 1: road at Minnesota. Minnesota was tight. Sure in their first game,

579
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Speaker 1: maybe a bit of a mirage that final box score,

580
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Speaker 1: but Boston College is a cross country trip. But Boston

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Speaker 1: College is not bulletproof. Virginia Tech. They got to go

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Speaker 1: to Lane Stadium, which is not easy, but Virginia Tech

583
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Speaker 1: could be gettable. Sure, even like SMU to close out

584
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Speaker 1: the year, who knows what kind of position they'll be in.

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Speaker 1: I just this is me getting out over my skis.

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Speaker 1: But if we get this type of performance from cal

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Speaker 1: moving forward, there's probably a little bit more upside here

588
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Speaker 1: than we initially thought.

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Speaker 2: A week after Hawaii beat Stanford, Arizona took it to them.

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Speaker 2: So that's nice for Arizona. Our friend Michael Junior on

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Speaker 2: the call, I think eating hot dogs nor dogs in

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Speaker 2: the booth. I didn't see that he was doing that.

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Speaker 2: Fresno got We talked a little bit about this on

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Speaker 2: the show. Fresno comfortably beat Georgia Southern, who now has

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Speaker 2: USC coming up this week. B YU very comfortable over

596
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Speaker 2: Portland State Bear Bachmeyer, the Bear, very very good, three touchdowns,

597
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Speaker 2: didn't have a great stat line, didn't like throw for

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Speaker 2: a million yards, but had three touchdowns and I thought

599
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Speaker 2: big plays. Yes, And we kind of mentioned Virginia getting

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Speaker 2: over on Coastal Carolina in a big way. And this

601
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Speaker 2: is a new look Virginia team, so we'll see what

602
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Speaker 2: that means for the ACC. But yeah, fun, fun, fun Saturday,

603
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Speaker 2: and we have one left. I mean, by the time

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Speaker 2: people listen, they'll have no they'll know what happened in

605
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Speaker 2: Bill Belichick's debut. I'm not just opening the Patriot League

606
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Speaker 2: to see if there was anything. Oh Bowl and Green

607
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 2: George took it. So he took it to a lofty ideal.

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Speaker 2: Lee High beat Richmond in the Patriot League matchup of

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Speaker 2: the weekend of the year, maybe maybe of the year.

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Speaker 1: I did not see if they had their Twitter account

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Speaker 1: unsuspended yet. I'm gonna have to check on that after

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Speaker 1: we hit stop Georgetown. B Davidson, Man Davidson, don't even

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Speaker 1: bring that noise. And and I you barely beat Holy

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Speaker 1: Cross barely. I picked a Crosssaders, didn't I I.

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Speaker 2: Think you did. And so if you wagered on the

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Speaker 2: Cross Sader, screw them, good on. You still got some

617
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Speaker 2: scar tissue from that one.

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Speaker 1: You want to do a little bit of an early

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Speaker 1: Bird preview, would love to. Early Bird Special started doing

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Speaker 1: this last week. I think normally on this Tuesday episode,

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Speaker 1: we'll take a little bit more time to unpack some

622
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Speaker 1: of the key storylines from the week that was. But

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Speaker 1: it's a screwy week one. It always is because they

624
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Speaker 1: have games for five straight days. It bleeds out into

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Speaker 1: Sunday and Monday, just the way they've been scheduling this thing.

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Speaker 1: So kind of puts you and I in a bit

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Speaker 1: of a bind. We can't as much of that ground

628
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Speaker 1: as we would like otherwise, but we do want to

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Speaker 1: give you a little bit of an advanced preview for

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Speaker 1: two really big games in Week two. Now, there are

631
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Speaker 1: a bunch I can talk through the slate a little

632
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Speaker 1: bit later, but we called out these two specifically because

633
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Speaker 1: these seem to be the ones that the verballer hood

634
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Speaker 1: is most interested in hearing us talk about early. Those

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Speaker 1: being the Syhawk game, Iowa versus Iowa State, and of

636
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: course the Michigan Oklahoma game, that big Week two non

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Speaker 1: con matchup, Michigan on the road at night in Norman

638
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Speaker 1: to square off against John Mattier and the Oklahoma Sooners.

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Speaker 1: Why don't we start off, though, with that Syhawk game again.

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Speaker 1: It is high noon, it is on Fox, It is

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Speaker 1: Iowa on the road. They are a three point dog

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Speaker 1: against the Iowa State Clones. Now, you know where I've

643
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Speaker 1: been on this game. You know where I've been on

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Speaker 1: Iowa for the last couple of weeks. Now, Yes, I

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Speaker 1: am going to take Iowa and the points in this

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Speaker 1: matchup and have fun. Yeah, I definitely felt a lot

647
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Speaker 1: less confident about it. After seeing Week one Mark Ronowski,

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Speaker 1: which I can discuss a little bit more detail speaking

649
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: of observations from week one. But this is usually a

650
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: close one score affair. As we know, the Clones won

651
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: last year on the road in Iowa City. Actually, in

652
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: the last three matchups the road team is won. So

653
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: perhaps that trend continues this time around. Gives me at

654
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: least a little bit more support from my Iowa prediction

655
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: here in this one. Where are you at on this game?

656
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: Are you going Iowa State?

657
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 2: I'm going to Iowa State? Why because I watched Iowa's offense.

658
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 2: Now again, this could be an Iowa team that relies

659
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 2: on the run, relies on defense. He's going to try to,

660
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 2: you know, win a bunch of games fourteen to ten, seventeen, thirteen,

661
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: something like that. We've seen it happen year after year

662
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:06,719
Speaker 2: after year. Iowa State's gonna play good defense this year. Now,

663
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 2: and there's something unsettling about how Mark Ronowski started his

664
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 2: season off against Albany.

665
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you said unsettling. Yeah, it was embarrassing. Unsettling

666
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: is being generous, Dan, Yeah, And I'm a Mark Ronowski fan.

667
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 2: Well, I say unsettling because it's week one, but the

668
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: manner in which he struggled is pretty worrisome unless there

669
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 2: was some sort of nagging something or he was drugged

670
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: before kickoff, or if there's some very clear explanation, Like

671
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: I'm willing to give everybody the benefit of the doubt

672
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 2: with week one, just crazy nerves, which doesn't really make sense.

673
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 2: He's played in big games, just at the FCS level,

674
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 2: so that doesn't fully make sense. And this wasn't a

675
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: big game against Albany in week one. So you're using

676
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 2: extreme adjectives and then talking about taking the points.

677
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: Well, I am taking the points because that's just the

678
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: matchup and I was done that with worse quarterbacks than Markronowski. Yeah,

679
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: although I don't know how much worse because you and

680
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,760
Speaker 1: I have been sending clips back and forth, and maybe

681
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 1: it was just a week one aberration and it's a thing,

682
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: and he had jitters and it was a bad game

683
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: plan and they need some time to get It's not

684
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: going to get easier against Iowa State.

685
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 2: Definitely not Iowa State.

686
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: It's already got two games under its belt, so to

687
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 1: that end, they're going to be I think a little

688
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: bit more seasoned. I don't see how they couldn't be

689
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 1: as compared to Iowa. But like the conversation around Markronowski,

690
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: if you have monitored at all online, has been merciless.

691
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: And this is not a program that is used to

692
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 1: having good quarterback play. As of late. He was awful.

693
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: He was eight to fifteen for forty four yards. They

694
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: did most of their work on the ground, to be clear,

695
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: because they've got a good line, because that is I

696
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: think their preferred style of play. But it is absolutely

697
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: the understatement of the year at this early stage in

698
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five season for me to say that

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00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: I am wavering a little bit, at a minimum a

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00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, on all of the praise I heaped

701
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: upon Mark Ronowski, he was terrible in Week one.

702
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 2: Look, the encouraging thing is Kirk ference has done nothing

703
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 2: but win games with one winning fights with one hand

704
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 2: tied behind his back.

705
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: I guess that's the challenge he prefers.

706
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 2: I guess. So, yeah, I'm willing to extend grace and

707
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 2: say that there was something amiss and there was something

708
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 2: there that prevented him from fully realizing his potential.

709
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: Like I feel personally affronted by this because I stuck

710
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: my neck out and I talked about how he was

711
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 1: going to be the best quarterback in Iowa since Brad Banks.

712
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: Look what he did against UC Davis, he might not

713
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: be a better quarterback than Tyra Banks. Dan Like.

714
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 2: It was just really bad. It was really bad. Do

715
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: they look very confused? Which is the troubling thing too.

716
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: Now it wasn't just him dirting balls, it was.

717
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: I'll shut up now, don't I don't want to.

718
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 2: Okay, so talk to me. Okay, I'm gonna tell you

719
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 2: why I like Iowa State. Tell me I like Iowa

720
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 2: State because of the experience in winning a sloppy game

721
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 2: and the experience of winning a game they should have

722
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: run away with and did run away with. I like that.

723
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 2: I like the comfort and experience of rock obect. I

724
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: like that this defense is specifically built to make quarterback

725
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 2: sea ghosts, either in the pass rush or in the secondary.

726
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: And if you are going to employ that against a

727
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: quarterback who seems to have ghosts built in, that seems

728
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 2: like a good thing to me. So I think Iowa

729
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 2: State at home is feeling like they have juice right now,

730
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 2: whereas Iowa is walking into this one skeptical, perhaps of

731
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: its own offense. In a way that they're not fully

732
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 2: used to. They're used to it, but not in this

733
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: specific way. I think it's just a charmed moment for

734
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 2: the clones. So I'm going to Iowa State here by

735
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 2: seven to ten. Yeah, I could see it, honestly, and

736
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 2: by the way to thirteen.

737
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: By the way, when I put my neck out there

738
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: and I said that I was beating Iowa State, there

739
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: were two other games that I called out kind of

740
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: in the same breath, early season predictions that I was

741
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: also that confident in. One was Texas over Ohio State.

742
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: The other was Notre Dame over Miami. It's not looking

743
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: good for Iowa, I hate to tell you guys.

744
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 2: Also, I think this is a big noon game, right,

745
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: big noon game. Yeah, this like the big noon studio

746
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 2: show is going or the big new preview show. And

747
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 2: so all of their features that they have ready to

748
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 2: go with about Mark Gronowski might need to be tempered

749
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 2: a little bit. We might need to go back into

750
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Speaker 2: the editing bay and be like, well, we'll see what happens.

751
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's fire up final cut. See if we

752
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: still got that source file.

753
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 2: Maybe make Fox is using final cut. They've got bigger

754
00:37:55,640 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: issues it's uh, there's a heavy spotlight on this one

755
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 2: because it's not a packed week of obvious headliners.

756
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: It definitely helps that Iowa State has those two games. Yeah,

757
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: and I came away from their Week one showing feeling

758
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 1: even better about the Clones because there was a real

759
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: opportunity on a short week after a big win in

760
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,919
Speaker 1: Ireland to have a letdown, which we have seen from

761
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: Iowa State before in September.

762
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's quality South Dakota team as well.

763
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: And they pounded them, they ripped them limb from limb.

764
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: That was a good showing for Iowa State. Definitely to

765
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: come back home to get a win like that, I

766
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: felt real encouraged after seeing it. Yeah, So I kind

767
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: of backed myself into a corner here with all this

768
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: Iowa love, with all this Mark Kronowski love, I'm going.

769
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 2: To stick with perfect storm. Stick with it.

770
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I'm going to stick with it. I'm not

771
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: going to back down now. My thought back in July

772
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: was that the Iowa State second could be an issue

773
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: in a game like this because my theory again was

774
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: I was going to find a way to utilize Markronowski's legs.

775
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: They're going to be able to run some misdirection, and

776
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to run some fakes off of that. Sure,

777
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: I am envisioning a situation where there's a Mark Ronowski

778
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: fake draw pop over the top. That's how they take

779
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: advantage of the secondary. They still could try that.

780
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: Well, look, maybe Iowa State secondary is in trouble because

781
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,959
Speaker 2: their muscles will atrophy from lack of use.

782
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, the matchup to watch is this, though,

783
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: whatever I think is going to happen doesn't matter. The

784
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: matchup that I am most interested in here is the

785
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: Iowa offensive line against the Iowa State defensive line, because

786
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: if they're able to get a push, if they are

787
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 1: able to establish something of a ground game, I like

788
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: their chances. Now, we've seen them be very good at

789
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: this in the past. I would like their chances a

790
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: lot more. It would instill a lot more confidence in

791
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 1: me having made this pick. If I knew right now

792
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: that they'd be getting a push with their offensive line.

793
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, what's stopping Iowa State from putting ten dudes

794
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 2: at the line of scrimmage?

795
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: Well that's the question, right, Yeah, that's the question. So

796
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: if this one devolves into three yards and a cloud

797
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: of dust and a bunch of punts and field position

798
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: and whatnot that probably benefits IOWA. I think that's the

799
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: style of play that they need here. I'll stand by

800
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: the pick. I truly don't feel great about it, but

801
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say IOWA outright twenty one to twenty?

802
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 2: What do you think? Fell across Tim Lester's face as

803
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: he started calling that game, like, Oh, what have we done?

804
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: What have we unleashed? I don't know, man, I was.

805
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 1: I was blown away watching the highlights of this one.

806
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: I went back, I watched the game. I saw the highlights.

807
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: Then I went back and I watched the game like

808
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: I gotta see what I'm what I'm missing here? And

809
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: it was I'll stick to my pick, all right?

810
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 2: Like tie out of Victorious Secret walk Through? Yes, exactly

811
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 2: like that? What am I doing here? I feel like

812
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 2: I'm out of my elements. I'm nervous about everything I

813
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 2: do and say I do with my hands.

814
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: Yeah? Where do I go?

815
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 2: Am I supposed to be here?

816
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 1: Yeah?

817
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: Did I say Victoria Secret walk Through? How about like

818
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 2: a fashion show or some like? Ties backstage? The look

819
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: that must have fallen upon my face? Kate walked into

820
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: the room. She said, what's wrong.

821
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 1: I was like that. I just gave her the wave, like, now, yeah,

822
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 1: you don't want to know. You don't want to know about.

823
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 2: Mark cons now, sweetie.

824
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I got twenty one twenty. Iowhall, I'll

825
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: stick with that. I'll be rong twenty three thirteen. So

826
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: the other big game that we're going to talk about

827
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: today is one that we've had circled for a while,

828
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: and it's interesting on about a thousand different fronts, not

829
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: the least of which is interesting conversation for Big ten fans,

830
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: really interesting conversation for SEC fans. I think in the

831
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: broader national conversation. It's one of those early bell Weather games,

832
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: one of those non con games for sure, that people

833
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: have circled just as an interesting tell early on to

834
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: see where some of these programs are at. This is

835
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: seven point thirty ABC. It is Michigan on the road

836
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma. This is a point spread that has jumped

837
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: around a fair amount since I jotted it down on

838
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: my document. I had three at one point. I think

839
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: it opened at one and a half. Right now I'm

840
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 1: looking at it, it says Oklahoma minus six. So let's

841
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: go with that. Yes, I was genuinely surprised when we

842
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: put out the call on Saturday night for a little

843
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: role playing segment where we ask fan bases, tell us

844
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 1: who you're root for, and tell us what your emotions

845
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: are having watched your team play. Most of the Oklahoma

846
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: people that wrote in were concerned about what they saw,

847
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 1: which I found surprising because they won by thirty two points.

848
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: But I went online. I did verify it to some extent.

849
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 1: I would say is about an eighty twenty split. Eighty

850
00:42:54,320 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 1: percent good vibes, good emotions, twenty percent concerned for one

851
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 1: reason or another. I don't know if it was an

852
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: early turnover from Oklahoma. I don't know if it was

853
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: the third quarter interception from John Mattier. But like a

854
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: good tune up, you will take it.

855
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 2: Today it was lingering offensive line questions that weren't immediately answered.

856
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:16,919
Speaker 1: You will take this tune up. Though they only allowed

857
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty one yards to Illinois State, that's good.

858
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: That's the defense should absolutely be a strength of this team.

859
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 1: John Matteer three ninety two at four total touchdowns set

860
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: a record a lot I think to build on. But yeah,

861
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: the line, the line is going to be interesting and

862
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: it's something we should discuss.

863
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 2: Illinois State ran probably better than Oklahoma fans thought they would. Yeah.

864
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: Again, the line is six Stan, it is at night,

865
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: it is in Norman, and obviously that's a pretty advantageous spot.

866
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 1: There is no benefit at this point in Brent Vannable's

867
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: tenure to go out there and to leave anything in

868
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: the clip, like he just has to empty at all.

869
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: He has to win this game, much like we talked

870
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: about with Miami and Notre Dame. This one is very

871
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: meaningful for Brent Vnables.

872
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 2: Obviously meaningful for Sharon Moore, who's probably going to be

873
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 2: shown in the first three minutes in an Oklahoma uniform.

874
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: Two minutes ninety seconds. I don't know, noted Oklahoma alum. Yeah, yeah,

875
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 2: And I think what game day is there too?

876
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: Right? Yep?

877
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 2: Game day is going to be in Norman. What do

878
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: I think of this one? I? You know, my general

879
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 2: rule of law with picking games is if you've got

880
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 2: a what appears to be a strong defense, and you're

881
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 2: playing at home in a difficult environment, and the added

882
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 2: benefit if you're an Oklahoma fan of playing against a

883
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: quarterback who has never played in a game like this,

884
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 2: who has one game of experienced I thought looked pretty

885
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 2: good against New Mexico all things considered, and the offense

886
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 2: definitely had more juice against New Mexico for Michigan. But

887
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 2: taking on Oklahoma in this spot and Michigan has advantages,

888
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 2: I think Michigan upfront on defense against Oklahoma's front, it's

889
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 2: gonna be a big question for the Sooners. And we'll

890
00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 2: see what happens with the targeting a pe to uh

891
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 2: It's Jayshawn Barram, the Michigan linebacker.

892
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: H a lot of a lot of conversation about that

893
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: one out out on the interest.

894
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 2: So I like Oklahoma here. I do like Oklahoma here

895
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 2: just because it fits snugly into my picking arms of

896
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 2: the situational play. And I think Michigan is going to

897
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 2: come out not apprehensive, but they're going to come out

898
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,919
Speaker 2: I think prepared. I think in a way that's more

899
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: prepared than usual. But to beat a defense as good

900
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 2: as what we think Oklahoma is going to be, you

901
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 2: have to have an offense that can win in a

902
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 2: number of ways, and we just haven't seen it from Michigan.

903
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: We just haven't seen, you know, a game changing tight end,

904
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: a game changing receiver. I like what we saw itt

905
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: of Justice Haynes in Week one. Obviously they play running back, Yes,

906
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 2: running game really good. Running games should be good all

907
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 2: season long. But what they're what are they putting on

908
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 2: Bryce Underwood's plate TBD? How much are they going to

909
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: trust him to look like a third year quarterback rather

910
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 2: than like what Notre Dame did with CJ. Carr in

911
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 2: Week one against Hit their first real opponent. This is

912
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 2: Michigan's first real opponent, all due respect to the Lobos.

913
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 2: So I'm going with the home team here because I

914
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 2: just it's so incomplete from Michigan's offense in this moment.

915
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 2: To pick Michigan in this spot, you either one have

916
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 2: to believe Oklahoma is extremely overrated based on last year,

917
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 2: which is not an unreasonable take, that we need to

918
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 2: see a much better offensive line performance against a real team,

919
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 2: or you have to be so almost inexplicably high on

920
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 2: the ceiling of this Michigan offense immediately with a new

921
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 2: coordinator and a new quarterback. And I don't fit into

922
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 2: either one of those boxes. So I'm going to give

923
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 2: those points, and I think Oklahoma wins this game by

924
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 2: eight to twelve points.

925
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 1: Okay, Wow, Bryce Underwood looked good. Though.

926
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 2: He did look good. He looked good, but I think

927
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 2: it was a combination of being scripted and not having

928
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 2: to go through a ton of progressions.

929
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was good, really good on the

930
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: short stuff. It was still pretty good with the intermediate

931
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: stuff once he started throwing beyond twenty yards at the

932
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: UZOH for two. I checked the passing grades. They weren't great,

933
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 1: but even still a really good showing for him.

934
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

935
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: I like the fact that Justice Haynes comes in. That

936
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: to be is more of the story than Bryce Underwood.

937
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: Of course, the transfer from Alabama, as I mentioned, three

938
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: touchdowns had like one hundred and sixty yards or so.

939
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: They need to have that in the backfield. It can't

940
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: all just be on the arm of Bryce Underwood. The matchup, though,

941
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: is what you mentioned earlier, and it's a really good

942
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 1: Michigan front seven against an Oklahoma line that we're still

943
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,919
Speaker 1: trying to suss out. It was bad a year ago,

944
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,959
Speaker 1: it really was, and so this is one of those

945
00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 1: matchups where you like to talk about quarterback and defense.

946
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: I still think like the best quarterback and best defense

947
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: is probably on the Oklahoma side, And so I tend

948
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,479
Speaker 1: to agree that the Sooners are going to win this game,

949
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: but I don't think we can take for granted that

950
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: Michigan's front isn't going to have a huge say in

951
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: this ball game. I think the reason why I favor

952
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,919
Speaker 1: Oklahoma is given a setup like that, it also plays

953
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: into the hands of a guy like a joh Matier,

954
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: who is an improviser, who if he doesn't get a

955
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: lot of time, they can still figure out a way

956
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: to move the pocket. They can get well it's a

957
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: quick hit offense by design. They can get him out

958
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: of the pocket. They can find ways to utilize his legs.

959
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: He's a very talented runner, maybe the best running quarterback

960
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: in college football. Whoa you can use that to great.

961
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 2: I mean Lenora's Sellers exists in this university.

962
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: I said, maybe, I said, maybe he's not as big

963
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: as Lenora's the Creator, mind you, but he's every bit

964
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: is electric and a ton of fun. So I am

965
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 1: curious to see, in the absence of any real pass protection,

966
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: if it comes to that, if John Matier, the improviser

967
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: comes out, and if he's able to help lift this

968
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: offense in a way that you know, Oklahoma hasn't seen

969
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: maybe since like a Caleb Williams or a Baker Mayfield.

970
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's those guys, but he is that

971
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 1: style player to some extent.

972
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 2: I agree. He was really really good last year and

973
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 2: they're basically one game against a good defense in Boise State.

974
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 2: He had a good game. He threw it a bunch,

975
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 2: but he got the ball to his receivers. The receivers

976
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 2: made big plays. It's different playing in Norman against Michigan.

977
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 2: That's just it's a different level for John Mattier as well.

978
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 2: If we're going to say that about Bryce Underwood, Mateer

979
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 2: is more experienced, but this kind of stage is just

980
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 2: different than where he was playing its Mountain West teams

981
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 2: by and large last year.

982
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: I've got Oklahoma twenty eight twenty. I think we can

983
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: agree on the tenor of this game, and I do

984
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: think the ultimate difference is going to be what I

985
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: just mentioned, John Mattier's ability to make plays. Look, we

986
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: can talk until we're blue in the face about how

987
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: he's unproven against an SEC schedule, certainly playing against teams

988
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 1: like Michigan. He largely played against a Mountain West schedule

989
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: last year when he was cutting up all things up

990
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: there at Washington State. I do think this is one

991
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: of those games that probably suits his skill set pretty well.

992
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: He's just gonna have to be on the move. I

993
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: still don't trust that Oklahoma line, and I think he

994
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: is built for these types of games. So twenty eight

995
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: twenty I think a lot to build on. If you're Michigan,

996
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna seem terribly overmatched in this game,

997
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: if only because of their front seven and how good

998
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: it is. And I think we'll see some pop out

999
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: of Bryce Underwood and for sure some pop out of

1000
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: a guy like a Justice Haines. I don't expect this

1001
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 1: to be a bad matchup at all. I think it'll

1002
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: be fun. But I ultimately favor the playmaking of intire

1003
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: That's why I'm going twenty eight twenty.

1004
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 2: Uh, twenty four fourteen, twenty to ten. I don't think

1005
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 2: it's I just don't think Oklahoma's going to score a

1006
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,240
Speaker 2: ton on this Michigan defense, and I don't think Michigan

1007
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 2: is going to score a ton of this Oklahoma team.

1008
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm gonna go low scoring here, but yeah,

1009
00:50:58,360 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 2: ten points.

1010
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: We do have this thing that I have talked about

1011
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: for years in this show that I often reference as

1012
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: the de facto national championship, right, And I think this

1013
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 1: is an early season de facto national championship for Oklahoma,

1014
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: like they gotta have this one, Dan, they got it,

1015
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:18,919
Speaker 1: Brent Vanderbiles has to have this one.

1016
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 2: I don't think that's true at all. I don't think

1017
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 2: that's what de facto national championship means. I am being

1018
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 2: a little bit liberal with my They play Texas, they

1019
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 2: play arch Manning.

1020
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying in the early part of this season.

1021
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 2: It's their de facto first two weeks of the season

1022
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 2: national Thank you, thank you.

1023
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: Let's go with that. Okay, it's a very meaningful game.

1024
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,280
Speaker 1: I think it means more for Oklahoma than it does Michigan.

1025
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to take them twenty eight twenty Okay. A

1026
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: couple other games just to put on your radar as

1027
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: we wrap this thing up in advance of Week two. Now, again,

1028
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: Week two is not as high profile as Week one,

1029
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: but a bunch of matchups at least here in the

1030
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: forballer hood that I think people would find very interesting.

1031
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: It starts off on Friday night. Actually, James Madison at

1032
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: Louisville given fun, given where everything's at now in the

1033
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: G five, with Boise going down, USF obviously getting a

1034
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: pretty big win. We saw Louisiana go down, We saw

1035
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: Army go down. I think there's a lot of uncertainty

1036
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: on the G five level, which of those schools might

1037
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: rise up and perhaps claim that playoff spot. James Madison, man,

1038
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: it's there for JMU now. I don't know if they

1039
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: got the schedule. I know that they're using maybe some

1040
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: different metrics this year, but JMU now on the road

1041
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: at Louisville is in a must win situation if they

1042
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: want to find themselves in that conversation later in the year. Louisville,

1043
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: for their part, was fine in week one. ISAs Brown

1044
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 1: is good, Middle Moss is fine. He threw a couple

1045
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 1: picks though, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know they're fine.

1046
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,439
Speaker 2: I haven't. I haven't broken down the tape yet.

1047
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: Not not terribly worried one way or another about the

1048
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: Louisville side. But this is one speaking of true de

1049
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,439
Speaker 1: facto national championships. If we want to be purists about

1050
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: the definition, jam you needs to have this one. They're

1051
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: a fifteen point dog at time of recording is Friday

1052
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: night at seven pm on ESPN two. As for other

1053
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: matchups that we did not have a chance to really

1054
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:16,720
Speaker 1: address here, also in that noon slate, alongside the Iowa

1055
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: Iowa State game, Illinois at Duke we're going to have

1056
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: to talk about on Thursday.

1057
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Shire showdown.

1058
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: Yep, the Shire showed. It's a monster game for both

1059
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: these teams. And it's not going to fly, you know,

1060
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: it's not going to be flown on a banner at

1061
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: any of these pregame shows, and it's not going to

1062
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: be the game that your eye is drawn to. But

1063
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:38,760
Speaker 1: Illinois at Duke's a big one. Baylor at SMU. SMU's

1064
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 1: favored in this game three points.

1065
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 2: Okay, I understand it's that it's in Dallas. Yeah.

1066
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: The afternoonslate's loaded too. Kansas at Missoo the Border War

1067
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:53,240
Speaker 1: Missoo favored by five and a half. Nice Old Miss

1068
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: at Kentucky. Bit of a revenge spot for Old Miss. Yeah,

1069
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State on the rot at your Oregon ducks.

1070
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 2: The Alkahoma State without its starting quarterback. Oregon looking good

1071
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 2: week one yep.

1072
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: Uh, Delaware at Colorado I have labeled as a Fox

1073
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: game at three point thirty sure, which is an interesting

1074
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: choice if that's if that is correct, I don't know

1075
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Speaker 1: for sure, but that's how it was labeled, so I

1076
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Speaker 1: put it down.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if there's nothing else, go with what you

1078
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 2: assume are going to be Dion ratings continue.

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Speaker 1: And West Virginia at Ohio could be a spicy matchup

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00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: Ohio right now about a three point home dog. We've

1081
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: got the Texas State utsa rivalry in this window. We've

1082
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,240
Speaker 1: also got a Fresno Oregon State game, Oregon State favored

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00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: by two, that should be tight.

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00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 2: We've got USF Florida, right, your guy Byron.

1085
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: Brown, us F Florida, Yeah, dude, thank you.

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00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 2: We've got NC State Virginia.

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00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 2: Who's going to go seven and five? Who's going to

1089
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 2: go six and six? This year? This could be a

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Speaker 2: determining factor.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Man, No, I think it's a really fun week. I

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00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 2: think there's a lot of good stuff here. Is there

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00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 2: anything good at night? Late night?

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Speaker 1: There is? Man, there absolutely is got a couple here.

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00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I'm listening.

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00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:09,959
Speaker 1: Army K State.

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00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 2: Does Army have a Tarleton State problem? The answer right

1099
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 2: now yes, a symphatic yes.

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00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: Georgia Southern at USC Clay Hilton Bowl. Just interesting because

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00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: of the US. They should win easily. Yeah, name to

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00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 1: play Vandy have Virginia Tech. Bit of a revenge spot

1103
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: for Virginia Tech. Definitely got Boston College at Michigan State,

1104
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 1: two teams that I think are kind of on the

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00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: same level the season. Michigan State favored by about a

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00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: field goal at home. Arizona State on the road at

1107
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 1: Mississippi State, Okay, that could be spicy man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Arizona State had a reasonably comfortable win against Northern

1109
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 2: Arizona last year. Yeah, or last week.

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Speaker 1: Ucla on the road at UNLV.

1111
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 2: Gotta win that, gotta win that Ucla slays.

1112
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: Gotta win that game.

1113
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 2: That must win. Weird to say, but true.

1114
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 1: They gotta win that game. And here's an interesting one.

1115
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: Alabama coming back home after the loss. Clips circulating online

1116
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: widely about lack of effort among that defense. Ulm coming

1117
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 1: to town. Now, Bama is favored by thirty eight points.

1118
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 2: This sho history here.

1119
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, should win this game handily. Ulm's gonna run, though, Dan,

1120
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 1: That's true. They're gonna run. They run right at them.

1121
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: It's all they know how to do. And they are feisty,

1122
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 1: so don't be surprised they cover. They're not gonna win,

1123
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: but don't be surprised they cover that. One's Saturday evening.

1124
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: A couple others in this window that I think look

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00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: somewhat interesting to me. But then we go to the

1126
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:49,240
Speaker 1: late night Stanford at Byu Bayu healthy favorite, San Diego

1127
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 1: State at Washington State, Washington State favored by two.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I dig it, full slate, Man, full sleep. It's

1129
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 2: gonna be fun.

1130
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1138
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1139
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1140
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1141
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1145
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Speaker 1: this weekend. It's like trying to read the matrix.

1146
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Speaker 2: In the game day Change yep.

1147
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Speaker 1: People chatting like a million miles a second, which is

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1149
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1152
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1153
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Speaker 2: To help us keep very meaningful to us. Yeah, you're

1154
00:57:59,400 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 2: very meaningful.

1155
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: So there's that. Of course, if you made it this far,

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1159
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Speaker 1: most people are watching this out on YouTube, we're going

1160
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1161
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1167
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Speaker 2: I like that.

1168
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Speaker 1: I think that's it. Look, our next episode is going

1169
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: to be on Thursday. As always, it'll be a much

1170
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: deeper preview for the week ahead. Of course, we did

1171
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: two previous here, but we've got many more that we

1172
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,479
Speaker 1: need to do. On the next episode. We will also

1173
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: give you maybe some upset picks. I got a few

1174
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: that I'm working on here, workshopping a little bit yep

1175
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: in the lab. We will talk about that. We of course,

1176
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: will give you everything you need to ready, everything you

1177
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: need to know to get ready. Excuse me for the

1178
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: week two that is in store for us.

1179
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 2: Dan can't wait. Gotta get this voice right. Take care

1180
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 2: of that voice. Man, Go drink some broth or I

1181
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 2: don't know what. Do you have, an elixir, anything.

1182
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: You're working on.

1183
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 2: I've been gargling salt water, broth, lozenges, throat comfort tea.

1184
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 2: I've been chopping up ginger and putting in my tea,

1185
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 2: trying to get there.

1186
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: Ti adam a means thing he told me was wild

1187
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Speaker 1: sweet orange tea from Tazo.

1188
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Speaker 2: Not a sponsor, could be? Not a sponsor could be? Okay,

1189
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Speaker 2: I try. Let's see if they have it.

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Speaker 1: It didn't not help. I don't know if it helped

1191
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: as much as he claimed, but he would know better

1192
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 1: than me.

1193
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 2: I'm doing it. I'm going to all the performance enhancing drugs.

1194
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 2: Tie beautiful.

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Speaker 1: All right. Well, on that note, thank you for tuning

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Speaker 1: back in Hope. Everybody enjoyed Week one. As many of

1197
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: you listen to this, you already know the results of

1198
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: the TSU North Carolina game. That's the only one left

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Speaker 1: on Monday night. But as people are coming back to

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01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: work here, we wanted to make sure you had some

1201
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: content in the app to keep the college football fire burning.

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Speaker 1: For that guy over there, my good friend Dan RUBERSTI

1203
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Speaker 1: for my self, Tie Hilda Brad. We'll catch you on Thursday,

1204
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 1: and I meantimes, stay solid.

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Speaker 2: Peace,