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Speaker 2: Seaton will come up with the pole question, at least

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, get my sea legs back a bit.

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Speaker 2: Press the button and the red light comes on. That's

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Speaker 2: on it, and then you speaking, oh wait, that's that

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Speaker 2: was a cough button. So if you were on the

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Speaker 2: college football committee, which Russia now would be most important

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Speaker 2: whilst ranking the teams, that's your cue.

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Speaker 3: That This is from Paul. The word walst was used

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Speaker 3: in it. A team's resume, current chance to win the title,

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Speaker 3: or teams that will be best for ratings. I think

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Speaker 3: that this is very pointed at one specific matchup, but

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Speaker 3: we'll see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm curious what Chris Fowler will say about

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Speaker 2: this when he joins this like next hour or because

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Speaker 2: it is entertainment. You want ratings, you want Notre Dame

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Speaker 2: in there. There's a chance Notre Dame does not make

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Speaker 2: the college football playoffs. Now, there's some scenarios that have

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Speaker 2: to happen. But if I'm going to look at BYU

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Speaker 2: and Notre Dame straight up right now, BYU has the

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Speaker 2: better resume. BYU has Texas Tech coming up this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame doesn't play until their next game, which could

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Speaker 2: be a bowl game or a playoff game. But if

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Speaker 2: you're just looking the eye test, BYU as a better resume.

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Speaker 2: Now we've been matching up Notre Dame in Miami, and

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Speaker 2: I still think Notre Dame is a better team. I

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Speaker 2: want a factor in how you play now. They did

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Speaker 2: have two losses. They did lose to Miami, they lost

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Speaker 2: at home to Texas Tech. But Texas to me is

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Speaker 2: playing as good to football as maybe anybody is right now.

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Speaker 2: But they have three losses and they went out and

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Speaker 2: scheduled Ohio State to start the year. If BYU doesn't

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Speaker 2: have a game this weekend, is BYU going to be

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Speaker 2: in the college football playoffs? If Texas had one more

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Speaker 2: game and won the game, would they be in the playoffs?

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Speaker 2: See this is where it gets tricky with these conference

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Speaker 2: title games. I don't like them. I think it's a

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Speaker 2: money grab and I think at times it does hurt

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Speaker 2: some of these schools that if they do lose, then

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Speaker 2: they're not going to be in the college football playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Not everybody has a conference championship game to play in.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he got Duke with five losses playing in

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Speaker 2: the ACC title game. But there's a chance the ACC

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Speaker 2: will I guess be on the outside looking in. Yeah, Pauling,

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Speaker 2: there's so.

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Speaker 4: Many semantics to this. Because Duke in Virginia, there's like

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Speaker 4: a loophole because Duke isn't currently ranked in the top

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Speaker 4: twenty five. They could beat Virginia and not be in.

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Speaker 4: There's a possibility of it because they're not ranked. It's

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Speaker 4: like a tax loophole.

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Speaker 2: It's really weird, and it's National Signing Day and I

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Speaker 2: we had Devin mccordyon from NBC Football Night in America,

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Speaker 2: former defensive back, and he said, you go to play

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Speaker 2: for the coach. Well, if you're going to go to

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Speaker 2: Penn State, who's your coach? And Kalani Sataki BYU head

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Speaker 2: coach is going to stay at BYU. I guess a

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Speaker 2: big booster came in, Big Donor and said, you're not

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Speaker 2: going anywhere. You're one of us. And he's done a

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Speaker 2: really good job. I think BYU is a really good job.

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Speaker 2: If you look at the history of that program, very underrated.

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Speaker 2: You can look at forty years of BYU football and

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Speaker 2: it's an underrated program. So he's going to stay there.

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Speaker 2: They're playing Texas Tech in the title game there and

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Speaker 2: maybe a chance to go into the playoffs. But for

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Speaker 2: Penn State, we said it at the time, Okay, you're

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Speaker 2: going to fire James Franklin. Who are you bringing in?

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Speaker 2: and that's come back to haunt them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Paulie, it does feel like Penn State miscalculated their reputation.

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Speaker 4: we're early in this process. And then like the Dominos

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you start to look at, Okay, maybe there's

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Speaker 2: and that's who you got your site set on. Maybe

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Speaker 2: it's an assistant coach who's there? Not sure. I thought

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's had any head coaching experience. I

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Speaker 2: do know he is a great recruiter. He certainly knows

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Speaker 2: what a great wide receiver looks like. If you Ohio

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Speaker 2: State's become wide receiver, Hugh, who would have thought that?

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Speaker 2: What he hayes? I can't imagine what he hayes if

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Speaker 2: somebody said, you know, they don't run the ball anywhere

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Speaker 2: in a cloud of dust. They throw the ball a lot.

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Speaker 2: Are they good? Yeah they are, they're really good. Alrighty,

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Speaker 2: slug our way through this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it's going around.

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Speaker 2: Well, it stayed around.

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Speaker 6: I've had this going.

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Speaker 3: Around and sticking around a little bit. Yeah, sorry to

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Speaker 2: It's like, man, how did this happen again? It won't

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Speaker 2: leave me. It's like Todd, It's always there.

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Speaker 3: Yes, ay, nineteen year cough. Apparently twenty two year cough.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, paul there are worse diseases to bring home from

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Speaker 4: Vegas though historically you think about it the cold and

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Speaker 4: a lot easier though.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, penicillin.

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Speaker 3: Penicillin knock that right out.

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Speaker 2: I had penicillin, you know, I had the shots. Had

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Speaker 2: a drive by here. Yeah, Pauline, this could be an

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Speaker 2: early best week in sports. But what an opportunity for BYU.

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Speaker 2: You keep your coach from going to Penn State, which

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Speaker 2: you would think to be of reverse, you lose your

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Speaker 2: this weekend by beating Texas Tech, and you could knock

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Speaker 2: week's time for BYU football.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Interesting times though, And I know these coaches they rail

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Speaker 2: to Chris Fowler about this. That you know, we just

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Speaker 2: need to come up with a solution that works for everybody. Works.

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Speaker 2: Imagine National Signing Day. So imagine if you're a big

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Speaker 2: time recruit and you were planning on going to Penn State. Well,

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Speaker 2: going to follow James Franklin to Virginia Tech? And that's

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Speaker 2: what's happening. So we can talk about out current players,

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Speaker 2: the coaches, changing fan bases, and I mean all of

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Speaker 2: these things. The high school kid. Nobody is factoring that in, Hey,

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Speaker 2: who's my coach? Where am I going? What other pole

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Speaker 3: Well, we could go with one there sort of point

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Speaker 3: about BYU who will get in Notre Dame or BYU?

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Speaker 6: And then who should.

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Speaker 3: Get in Notre Dame?

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Speaker 7: BYU?

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Speaker 2: Okay, well by you should right now, but you know,

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Speaker 2: strength to schedule record. They're playing for a conference championship. Man,

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Speaker 2: I'd I'd be shocked if Notre Dame's not in. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because you want to do everything you possibly can to

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Speaker 2: want a great Cinderella story, and you'll probably have that.

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Speaker 2: It has a way of sorting itself out. I know

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Speaker 2: that we always look at worst case scenario, and but

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Speaker 2: it just feels like whenever we talk about these scenarios,

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Speaker 2: it just seems to work its way out. I'd like

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Speaker 2: to have a little chaos. I'm okay with that. Yes, Marvin,

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Speaker 2: is Alabama in trouble if they get like housed by Georgia,

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Speaker 2: I would say yes.

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Speaker 7: I would say yes.

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Speaker 2: And although this isn't a dynamic Georgia team, but Alabama,

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Speaker 2: you need a good showing. And look, it's only a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Paul, And the other team that's in the the

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Speaker 4: conference playoffs this weekend, the conference championships, Indiana, you need

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Speaker 4: a nice showing against Ohio State. Now you're obviously still

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Speaker 7: This weekend for Indiana.

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Speaker 2: And Old Miss went up in the rankings, the standings

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Speaker 2: there with the College Football Selection Committee. I'm kind of

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Speaker 2: surprised at that. And then you got Charlie Weiss junior,

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Speaker 2: But now he goes back to Ole Miss to be

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Speaker 3: Car is he looking at the Penn State job now?

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Speaker 3: Based off the strength of that.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea what's going on. But Lane had

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Speaker 2: back when the playoffs are over. All right, A couple

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Speaker 2: of phone calls in here, Chris and Syracuse leads us

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Speaker 5: Thanks Dan? Yeah, a couple things. You guys are talking

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Speaker 5: Penn State. You know, the Penn State coach coaching search

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Speaker 5: reminds me of the New York Knicks coaching search after

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Speaker 5: they fired Tom Thibodau last year. Both seemingly plumb jobs.

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Speaker 5: But you wonder if Penn State's going to be like

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Speaker 5: the Knicks and whoever they do end up hiring. It's

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Speaker 5: not really an upgrade. And I definitely think there's no

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Speaker 5: way Lane Kippin should coach that game, the playoff game.

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Speaker 5: But he's got to be rolling his eyes a little

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but and I don't understand the backroom dealings with this.

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Speaker 2: I don't want Charlie Weis junior there. I don't want

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Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin there. These are our guys, these are our coaches.

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Speaker 2: Let's go out and plague. But we did spend a

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Speaker 2: lot of time on Lane Kiff. And now there is

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Speaker 2: a player that we've been in contact with who said

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Speaker 2: that Lane. You know, the players weren't all gung ho.

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Speaker 2: They wanted Lane Kiffin to stay there. And I think

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Speaker 2: some of that news came out. We had gotten word

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Speaker 2: a couple of days ago. But Lane makes it seem

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Speaker 2: like all those players wanted me, all the national media

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Speaker 2: wanted me to stay and coach that. You're not a victim.

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Speaker 2: You got a great job. Celebrate it, you know, don't

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Speaker 2: be apologetic. Take the job. You took the job, enjoyed

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Speaker 2: the job. Good luck with the job. But the other

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Speaker 2: stuff stop making it seem like this is all one

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Speaker 2: old miss. Yes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's about as fast as a hero to zero

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Speaker 3: transition as I think I can ever remember in modern sports.

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Speaker 1: It sounds nice to say that it's all about the

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Speaker 6: I'll leave that to my agent, but I can't. Anyone

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Speaker 4: Yes, Paul, I do think that what you guys just

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Speaker 2: They're still hated rivals. They're always going to be hated rivals.

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Speaker 2: Of all right, your initial reaction to the rankings was what.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Chris Fowler, he'll be on the call the

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Speaker 8: all coinciding, coming and going all the time. The coaching

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Speaker 8: carousel is only going to spin and work, is what

438
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Speaker 8: I was talking about with the rosters. You can't live

439
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,360
Speaker 8: with this roster. We'll get someone who can. So that's

440
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Speaker 8: not going to change going forward. We're gonna have a

441
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 8: messy situation every year. They could clean up some of

442
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 8: it by maybe a more logical schedule. That's a longer conversation.

443
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Speaker 8: You know, Kiffin did what most coaches would do. Giffen

444
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Speaker 8: did what Pete Carroll and Nick Saban told him to

445
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Speaker 8: do basically, and what or advised him to do, I'll

446
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Speaker 8: put it that way, and what he thought his late dad,

447
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:28,640
Speaker 8: Monty would have wanted.

448
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Speaker 6: Him to do.

449
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Speaker 8: And LSU has resources. They've won championships with three coaches.

450
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Speaker 8: Oh Miss, I think he could do it there too,

451
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Speaker 8: but it's more of a leap of faith.

452
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Speaker 7: I like Lane and ole Miss.

453
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Speaker 8: I'm disappointed for their program. I hope they make a

454
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Speaker 8: nice run in the playoff with Pete Golding as coach.

455
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Speaker 8: But Lane is not the villain who's symbolic of everything

456
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Speaker 8: wrong with the sport. Fans they're going to think that

457
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Speaker 8: they're going to roof for LSU to lose every game

458
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Speaker 8: by fifty, which they won't, by the way.

459
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Speaker 7: But you know, he did what most coaches would do.

460
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Speaker 8: And I think the old narrative about ripping players or

461
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Speaker 8: coaches for making business decisions, in other words, taking more

462
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 8: money to go somewhere else, you got to get past that.

463
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Speaker 8: That's outdated. It's kind of tired and lazy to me.

464
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 8: It's it's the reality of the situation and be mad

465
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Speaker 8: about it. You can say college football has been ruined

466
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Speaker 8: by the portal, by ESPN, whoever you want, but that's

467
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:24,239
Speaker 8: just whining and bitching. Coaches no longer do that. They

468
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Speaker 8: understand the nature of things, and I think fans need

469
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Speaker 8: to as well. It's not your grandfather's college football your

470
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Speaker 8: dad's either It is what it is, like it or not.

471
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Speaker 8: It's very, very close to the structure of pro sports. Yeah.

472
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Speaker 2: I said it quite a few times the last couple

473
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Speaker 2: of days. I don't begrudging for taking the job. It's

474
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Speaker 2: a great job to take. It's sort of the way

475
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Speaker 2: he took it and the mess that he left behind.

476
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Speaker 2: And you want to go back and coach, but all

477
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Speaker 2: they won't let me coach. And you know, don't play

478
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Speaker 2: victim here. Don't do that.

479
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Speaker 7: He said, he's made the villainy. He's not a victim.

480
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Speaker 7: You can't want to coach the team you go to

481
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Speaker 7: an arch rival.

482
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Speaker 8: If you don't know, folks, that's a bitter rivalry that

483
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Speaker 8: he left ole Miss for for a school that LSU

484
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Speaker 8: considers Old Miss their little brother and the neighborly thing there.

485
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Speaker 7: I mean, you can't.

486
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Speaker 8: You can't have both. And and at most schools would

487
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Speaker 8: do what what Ole Miss did? I know, Tulane some state,

488
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Speaker 8: that's a whole different situation. They're not in the playoff yet,

489
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Speaker 8: they have to they have.

490
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Speaker 7: Some work to do.

491
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Speaker 8: But I think that I don't begrudge all Miss. I

492
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Speaker 8: feel badly for their players, I really do. That's why

493
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Speaker 8: I think I hope they make a nice run. It'd

494
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Speaker 8: be a great story if ole Miss could say, hell

495
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Speaker 8: with Kiff and we're gonna rally around Pete Golding and

496
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Speaker 8: go make a run there.

497
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Speaker 7: But but you know, and I like Lane.

498
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Speaker 8: I think he's been the best coach he's ever been

499
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Speaker 8: by far at ole Miss the last six years, and

500
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Speaker 8: the happiest person that he's been so that.

501
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Speaker 7: That to me, that's why it's a little bit bittersweet.

502
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Speaker 7: But I you know, he's a good hire at LSU,

503
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Speaker 7: got a.

504
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Speaker 8: Great chance to win a championship, I said in a

505
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Speaker 8: video I post, he's gonna get fired at LSU. He's

506
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 8: gonna get They fire everybody unless you're Nick Saban. Saban

507
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 8: wins and go to the Dolphins. He probably would have

508
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 8: kept winning and he stayed there. Nick Saban is kind

509
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 8: of an outlier, right, But LSU fires two coaches who

510
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Speaker 8: win championships not that far after they won.

511
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Speaker 7: Him Miles and ORI's run.

512
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Speaker 8: So even if you win a championship down there and

513
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Speaker 8: then you fall off because maintaining consistent excellence in this

514
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 8: landscape with the.

515
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Speaker 7: Portland is really really hard to do. So you're going

516
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 7: to have a big year.

517
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Speaker 8: And expectation is going to be through the roof, and

518
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 8: then you're gonna you're gonna let it down and then

519
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 8: nobody's patient. So I think whatever Lane does there, it'll

520
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 8: be probably messy when it ends. His exits tend to

521
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 8: be messy, and even even his knowledge that, right, some

522
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 8: guys just make a clean break and off the next

523
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Speaker 8: and nobody gets mad at him.

524
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Speaker 7: Lane. When Lane leaves, it gets messy. It's just you know.

525
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Speaker 2: Lane talked about the Nick Saban advising him. He should

526
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Speaker 2: Saban on College game Day this weekend acknowledge that he

527
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Speaker 2: was guiding him to or told him to leave Old Miss.

528
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Speaker 2: As Lane Kiff and is talking, should should he be

529
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Speaker 2: saying that since he's on the premier college, you know,

530
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Speaker 2: football program, and you're the most one of the most

531
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Speaker 2: powerful people, and you are guiding Lane Kiffin to take

532
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Speaker 2: the LSU job. Should that have been disclosed or will

533
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Speaker 2: it be disclosed?

534
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Speaker 7: Will it be disclosed? I have no idea you think

535
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Speaker 7: I should advise Nick Saban and what to tell people?

536
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Speaker 2: I mean, well, if I'm raise Davis, I got to

537
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Speaker 2: ask the question, Chris Well, No, I am.

538
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Speaker 7: Saying I think he didn't tell him to leave Old Miss.

539
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Speaker 8: To clarify that, he just laid out for him what

540
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Speaker 8: his opinion was of the opportunity to win a national

541
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Speaker 8: championship in either places, as I understand it so, and

542
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Speaker 8: he wouldn't be the only one to lay out that argument. Again,

543
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Speaker 8: as I said, it's been done in LSU by three

544
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Speaker 8: different coaches, not that not that much time, and it

545
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 8: hasn't been an old Miss. I think that that's a

546
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 8: little bit less relevant in the modern system because you

547
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 8: can win a championship at Texas Tech.

548
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Speaker 7: They might do it.

549
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Speaker 8: I mean they're not favored to, but they're capable of

550
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Speaker 8: winning a championship. You know, look Tis, you got to

551
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 8: the championship game. Ole Miss can make a deep run.

552
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Speaker 8: I don't think you have to be one of the

553
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 8: biggest brands because you can. You can spend like the

554
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 8: big brands did. That's what Texas Tech has done and

555
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 8: the path in the Big twelve is is less rugged

556
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 8: than other conferences. But I don't think ole Miss would

557
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Speaker 8: be incapable of winning a national championship.

558
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Speaker 2: He's advising him. This is Lane saying that he's the

559
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Speaker 2: one who said you got to take the job of us.

560
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Speaker 7: I think that Pete Carroll advised.

561
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Speaker 2: But Saban's the guy who is doing college football. He

562
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Speaker 2: doing game Day.

563
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Speaker 8: I think Saban wisdom is massively respected by every single

564
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 8: coach in the business in glitting Land of course, who

565
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 8: work for him. So I think that you know, offline

566
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Speaker 8: with conversation they had, that's that's for Nick to share

567
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Speaker 8: or not. But you know, I think he I think

568
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 8: Nick coach at LSU won a championship. Else here does

569
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 8: care about the program, and I think he's well acquainted

570
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Speaker 8: with the landscape down there, the challenges of it. Again,

571
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 8: he won and then went to the Dolphins, which didn't

572
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 8: make LSU fans that happy, made him even more unhappy

573
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Speaker 8: when he came back and coached Alabama and then beat him. So,

574
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Speaker 8: I mean, Nick Nick and LSU have an interesting relationship,

575
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 8: but he did win a championship, and he's acknowledged as

576
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 8: the greatest coach of all time.

577
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Speaker 7: I think by there are.

578
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Speaker 8: People so I don't know. I think you can't put

579
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 8: it on that. You know, Lane made his own choice.

580
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Speaker 8: You get advice from whoever you want, you take it

581
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Speaker 8: to whatever degree you want.

582
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Speaker 7: Uh, and you use it.

583
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Speaker 6: But you can't.

584
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Speaker 7: You can't say that he's the reason that Lane made

585
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Speaker 7: his decision.

586
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Speaker 2: I mean I thought it was conflict of interest there

587
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 2: because he's on that dividual.

588
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 7: Because he's on game day. If you had any idea,

589
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 7: if you had any idea, the.

590
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 8: Number of calls that you feel from people in the

591
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 8: sport asking your opinion and advice on coaches, on everything,

592
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Speaker 8: I mean you have to really, Nick Nick is not

593
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 8: my position, you know, if you're on the panel as

594
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 8: a as a pundit, I think it's different.

595
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Speaker 9: Nick.

596
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 8: Nick is still an all time great coach, But the

597
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 8: connection is all of the sport and a coach at

598
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 8: the place we're talking about. That's not the same thing

599
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Speaker 8: as as somebody calling Reese or Dez or Kirk or

600
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 8: me or in whatever, Pat McAfee. You know, it's it's different.

601
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Speaker 8: I get asked those questions all the time. I'm not

602
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 8: comfortable with it, and I try to say out of it,

603
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 8: because my opinion whether a guy would be a good

604
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 8: coach fit at their place should not be factor.

605
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Speaker 7: Into the decision that somebody makes. In my view, I

606
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 7: just try to say out of.

607
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Speaker 2: That, how dangerous is Georgia. They seem to be lost

608
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 2: in the shuffle here of you know, when we're talking

609
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: about great I don't know if they're a great team,

610
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 2: but how do you assess how good they are this

611
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: year compared to what Kirby's had in you know, previous years.

612
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 8: Not as talented as those teams that win championships that

613
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 8: had like the whole filth that filled up the Eagles

614
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 8: defense on them, They had like eight first round guy

615
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 8: that those were you're not going to ever see a

616
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Speaker 8: defense as good as Georgia had in those years, in

617
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Speaker 8: my opinion, the way we're trending in this sport. They

618
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Speaker 8: find ways, though, Dan, I mean, Kirby knows how to

619
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Speaker 8: get a team to hit its stride at this part

620
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 8: of the season, and that's priceless because that's the thing

621
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Speaker 8: that coaches struggle with.

622
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Speaker 7: It comes from the physicality, the toughness that you learn

623
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Speaker 7: from day one.

624
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Speaker 8: You get to Georgia. They're really banged up. Their center,

625
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 8: Drew Bobo is out. I don't think he's gonna be

626
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 8: able to go again. He's certainly not playing Saturday. And

627
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 8: to lose your center is a really tough loss. Everybody's

628
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 8: beat up. Alabama's walking wounded. But Georgia is a tough,

629
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Speaker 8: tough out. They're hard to kill, as they like to say,

630
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 8: and being hard to kill is really priceless in the postseason.

631
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Speaker 7: I mean, they're just like that NFL team.

632
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 8: You could call them like the Chiefs, right that it

633
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 8: doesn't matter the regular you get them in that bracket

634
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 8: and shit, you don't want to play them, and nobody

635
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 8: wants to play Georgia. I mean, they're a tough out,

636
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 8: are they going to overwhelm you offensively. No, are they

637
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 8: going to allow you allow three points a game on defense? No,

638
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 8: they've been a little bit more vulnerable, especially early in games.

639
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 8: But the way they're playing defense now, the way they

640
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 8: played against Georgia Tech, I don't expect a scoring fest

641
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 8: against Alabama. George is gonna be hard to beat, and

642
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 8: that'll be interesting to see where they, you know, get

643
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 8: match up.

644
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 7: But I know no one wants to see them opposite

645
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 7: your team.

646
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 6: In the bracket.

647
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 2: Great to catch up with you State's fired up? Now,

648
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 2: come on, this is the biggest time of the year.

649
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 2: This when you got to perform.

650
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Speaker 6: Chris, do I not look fired up today? You do?

651
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 7: You do? But but but what not? No?

652
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 2: No, did you get a lift in today?

653
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Speaker 7: You know I didn't get it. I didn't get a

654
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Speaker 7: cold plunge in.

655
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Speaker 8: I did three minutes of thirty eight degrees in the backyard,

656
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Speaker 8: but we got the landscape. I can't get out there yet.

657
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Speaker 8: But once they get the cold pun, we'll get a lift.

658
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Speaker 7: I don't know. I'm sorry I didn't. You didn't you

659
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Speaker 7: didn't feel it was fired up? But I'm fired up.

660
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Speaker 2: Don't give you Rea, I don't know every day's Super

661
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Speaker 2: Bowl for me. I mean, I'm on my deathbed here.

662
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 2: I mean I'm barely able to talk. But I mean,

663
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 2: you know, you play hurt.

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Speaker 7: I will, I will. I have a nobody cares if

665
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 7: I have knee surgery on Monday, so I'll get through that.

666
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 7: I'll be at the Heisman. You gotta do what you

667
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 7: gotta do, and you're you're a great example of that.

668
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Speaker 7: So I'll talk to you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Chris. That's Chris Fowler. He's tough.

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677
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678
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 2: eight fifteen eastern on the program. Feels like a playoff game,

679
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: like an elimination game for both of these. I mean

680
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Speaker 2: Cowboys have to win. What about the Lions playoff portion

681
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 2: of this?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? I think he really does. This feels like playoff football. Already.

683
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 6: I mean, you think of how hot the Cowboys are

684
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 6: right now, win three in a row, opportunity for them

685
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 6: to really fight themselves back into this playoff picture. And

686
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,479
Speaker 6: then for the Lions, it's man, a season ago, how

687
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 6: dominant they were, you know, felt like it was going

688
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 6: to be a repeat. This year, it's not been the

689
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 6: consistency they've been used to. They've they've been banged up

690
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 6: here recently now without Sam Laporta and possibly I'm on

691
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 6: Saint Round for a little bit. Man, this is going

692
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 6: to be a challenge because obviously what I'm on meant

693
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Speaker 6: to them and everything he is to them. Who Dan

694
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 6: Campbell's got his hands full now is the play caller,

695
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Speaker 6: because this is the guy who did everything for this offense,

696
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 6: and you've got to do it against a team that's

697
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 6: hot and a team that's looking to get themselves back

698
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Speaker 6: in contention, has a whole lot of belief that they

699
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Speaker 6: are a playoff football team.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if it's this simple, Andrew that

701
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: I said at the beginning of the year and even

702
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Speaker 2: when they made the trade with Michael Parsons, just have

703
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 2: average defense because you have a better than average offense.

704
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Speaker 2: And if you do that, you can be a playoff team.

705
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 2: But is it that simple that they now have an

706
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Speaker 2: average better than average defense to go along with that offense.

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Speaker 2: That's why they're so dangerous?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you look at it. I mean, I

709
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Speaker 6: think it's one of those things. I'm sure Jerry's walking

710
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 6: around kind of beating his chest right now. As we

711
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 6: all criticize the trade, we all, like, you know, everyone

712
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 6: had their opinion of it, and now all of a

713
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 6: sudden you start to look at how they've been successful

714
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Speaker 6: in defense the last few weeks. You know, they've they've

715
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Speaker 6: increased the interior. You look at Quinn Williams, you look

716
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 6: at Kenny Clark, you look at these guys, how they've played.

717
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Speaker 6: They're kind of starting to play with these three three

718
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 6: D tackle looks and starting to kind of do something different,

719
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Speaker 6: which give credit to Eberflusf kind of creating the package

720
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 6: to use all those guys. And they've been able to

721
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 6: slow down run games, be more efficient getting after the quarterback,

722
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Speaker 6: and effective you know that in that regard. And so man,

723
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 6: it's starting to show, like, all right, if we could

724
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 6: slow people downs at least not let them run the

725
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 6: football on us, give ourselves an opportunity to to get

726
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 6: the football back to our offense and then play well

727
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 6: on offense, we can win. And that's really It wasn't

728
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 6: like they were perfect into Chiefs. It's still get enough

729
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 6: points and yards, but they found a way to win

730
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 6: in those moments and give Dak one more chance. And

731
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 6: they've got some absolute aliens on the outside right now

732
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Speaker 6: playing receiver. And this is kind of like to me

733
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Speaker 6: the best the Cowboys have looked in recent years, and

734
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 6: it looks like they are built to go make a

735
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 6: run right here?

736
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Speaker 2: Would you rather block Micah? Well, rather block who? Would

737
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Speaker 2: you want to avoid? Micah Parsons or Quinn Williams.

738
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Speaker 6: I would say I'd always rather have the big boys.

739
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 6: I mean the big boys is there's at least a

740
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 6: lot of what's the most appropriate way I can say this,

741
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 6: there's a lot of body to get your hands on.

742
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 6: Let's put it that way, all right, So I like

743
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 6: more masks that I can get a hold of, if

744
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 6: that makes sense. So the little guys Micah in that sense,

745
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 6: his height, his speed, his agility, getting your hands on

746
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 6: those guys was always the hardest part is just finding

747
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 6: a way to get in front of them. So at

748
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 6: least with Quinn, and it might be a physical battle

749
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 6: and he might win a couple those, but you weren't

750
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 6: gonna have any problem getting your hands on him. So

751
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 6: I always like, I prefer to get my hands, you know,

752
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 6: in the mud a little bit and just get after it.

753
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 6: So any guy that I could fight and wrestle with,

754
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 6: I much preferred.

755
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Speaker 2: Would you rather have if you have to pick now,

756
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: would you rather have a smart quarterback or a tough quarterback?

757
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 1: Oh?

758
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 6: Man, that's a good one. I'm gonna probably say, since

759
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 6: that you could possibly enter the category of having a

760
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 6: really good coordinator, I'd rather have a tough quarterback because

761
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 6: I feel like maybe there's some of those things we

762
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 6: can handle from a coaching standpoint, But when they're tough

763
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Speaker 6: and they're gonna survive down to down, they're gonna play

764
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 6: the physicality, they're gonna extend plays. There's a self belief

765
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Speaker 6: I think in that starts to be created around them

766
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 6: and in that huddle. You know, when I start to

767
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 6: think of the great ones I played with, whether it

768
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 6: be Carson Palmer or Matthew Stafford and some of those

769
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 6: guys in Jared Goff, I start to think of how

770
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Speaker 6: tough they were, right, and like people talk about affecting

771
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Speaker 6: the quarterback. I mean I never heard those guys ever complain, uh,

772
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 6: you know, whine or even put emphasis on anything other

773
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Speaker 6: than being at their best and their best is acquired

774
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 6: and find a way to respond. Those were guys you'd

775
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 6: never hear Whiper ever. I mean, Matthew Stafford always call

776
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 6: him John Wayne, but he's like the baddest cowboy in

777
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 6: the huddle. Everybody in that huddle wants to be as

778
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 6: tough as that dude every single snap, and so you're

779
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 6: living to try and live up to.

780
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Speaker 9: Man.

781
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 6: I want to be tough enough that Matthew Stafford thinks

782
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Speaker 6: I'm tough, because that's the kind of dute he is.

783
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 2: Okay, but what do you think when you hear Jackson

784
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 2: Dart that, Hey, this isn't soccer and I'm gonna be

785
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: running and I'm going to continue to play this way?

786
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 2: Is he being small?

787
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 6: Love it?

788
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 2: You're okay with your quarterback doing that.

789
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 6: I'm okay with what I think is going to naturally happen.

790
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 6: We look, we saw it with Josh Allen, We've seen

791
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 6: it with other guys that love to get into that mix.

792
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:49,479
Speaker 6: A little bit.

793
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Speaker 2: Jackson coming out of concussion protocol. I mean, I get

794
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:55,280
Speaker 2: extra hits.

795
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Speaker 6: Yeah, But here's the thing. We can't if we want

796
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 6: to get in the ring and swing with heavyweights, we

797
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 6: can't control whether we're gonna get punched in the head.

798
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Speaker 6: I mean, that's just the reality. So we're playing NFL football.

799
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Speaker 6: You're gonna take some shots. You wanna extend plays, You're

800
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 6: gonna take some shots. Here's what he's gonna have to do.

801
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 6: He's got to find ways that hey, like on the

802
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 6: sideline there, all right, those are downs, get out of bounds,

803
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 6: those are downs like as he plays and realizes because

804
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 6: I think sometimes we talk about this in coverage, right,

805
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 6: young guys coming in and figuring out. Man, those guys

806
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 6: DB's at the NFL level. They can break on a football.

807
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 6: Oh man, I can't throw it as a tighter windows

808
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 6: as I used to could. It's not any different out

809
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 6: in space. He's learning the speed and the violence of

810
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 6: the game and saying, all right, oh you know what.

811
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Speaker 6: I bet he flipped over sideways the other night and said,

812
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 6: you know what, next time, I ought to get out

813
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,240
Speaker 6: the out of bunds a little faster. That's the reality

814
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 6: So I don't think I love I love the mentality.

815
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 6: You gotta have it. I mean that's just you look

816
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 6: at the league right now, you gotta have it. How

817
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 6: many truth sit in the pocket quarterbacks? Do we have

818
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 6: that that exists? And it's just not true. You gotta

819
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 6: extend plays, you gotta be tough. Back to Malmes is

820
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 6: one of the toughest dudes on the planet. Soo's Josh Allen.

821
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,919
Speaker 6: I mean, these dudes running extend plays and and they've

822
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 6: got to live in that world. But he he's got

823
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 6: to learn how to be smarter about it, and he's

824
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 6: got to get creative. And when do I do it?

825
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 6: When do I not? When do I make sure I

826
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 6: take care of my football team? But I also think

827
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 6: that Dan we have to give him credit. Who's he

828
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 6: playing with right now? Like does he have a bunch

829
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 6: of weapons that he can get rid of the football

830
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 6: and extendsive game plays to and get down the football

831
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 6: field too? No, he doesn't. So some of that he

832
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 6: feels like, Man, if I don't do it, I don't

833
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 6: know where to go with the football. You know, I

834
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 6: think it'd be I think I'd rather assess him a

835
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 6: year from now. When you see them add some weapons.

836
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 6: Is he still doing some of that stuff or is

837
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 6: he realizing, Man, maybe it's better to give those guys

838
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 6: opportunities in these situations.

839
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I need twenty five percent less John Wayne with

840
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 2: him that?

841
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I like that?

842
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 2: Like is that John Wayne light?

843
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 6: Okay? Is that okay?

844
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 8: Yeah?

845
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's okay. Hey, look at Stafford's great. He's a

846
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 6: magician at it nowadays. You know, Hey, listen, Matthew's that

847
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 6: ball's coming out if somebody's unblocked. You know, he's out

848
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 6: running in space. He's he's dirting that thing. We know

849
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 6: that he's smart that way, right, He's lived through it.

850
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 6: I mean, that guy if anybody's played through it and

851
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 6: knows so. I just think it's something that we don't

852
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 6: give them credit enough. These quarterbacks they've got to go

853
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 6: through that process too and learn how do I stay

854
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 6: on the football field? And I think that's the conversation.

855
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 6: We need you on the football field because I think

856
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 6: Jackson Dart is going to be a really good football player.

857
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Speaker 2: Andrew Whitworth Amazon Prime Football Analysts coming up Tomorrow night

858
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 2: Cowboys and the Lions pregame coverage starts at seven Eastern.

859
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 2: Also a Louisiana State alum. Your reaction to getting Lane

860
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Speaker 2: Kiffin as your coach.

861
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Speaker 6: Oh man, you know, it's one of those you hate

862
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 6: the college football system, You're mad about all that type stuff.

863
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 6: At the same time. I mean, i'd be lying if

864
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 6: I wasn't saying as an LSU Tiger, I'm excited that

865
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 6: we have a coach that I think is going to

866
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Speaker 6: help us be successful. But you know, Dan, I think

867
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Speaker 6: it's tough too, because if it wasn't for the calendar,

868
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Speaker 6: it wasn't for the timing. You know, it's more leaving

869
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Speaker 6: your team when it's happening and what that's going to

870
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 6: do to impact the kids that old miss and what

871
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 6: they had in front of them. Because the idea that

872
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 6: you hear of, like oh man, you promised these kids this,

873
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 6: or you built this and you're leaving it like that's

874
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 6: happened since I was in college. I mean, people forget

875
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 6: Nick Saban. I was going to Florida with Steve Spurriy

876
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 6: or Nick Saban gets hired as the LSU coach. He

877
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 6: comes in and sells me that LSU is not a

878
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 6: four year decision, it's a forty year decision. You decide

879
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 6: to stay in state, go to LSU. We're gonna do

880
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 6: great things. It's gonna affect your whole. Hey. Well, hey,

881
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 6: three years later we've won a national championship. That's awesome.

882
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 6: Four years later he's gone. He took a big check

883
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 6: and he's going to the Miami Dolphins. So did he

884
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 6: lie to all the kids that came there and hey,

885
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 6: we're gonna be built?

886
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 5: No?

887
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 6: I mean that's the reality is. Coaches have always done this,

888
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,919
Speaker 6: and it's always been a part of it. It's just now,

889
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 6: because of the calendar, we've ended this portal system in

890
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 6: NIL and now players are doing it and we've entered

891
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 6: this world now where that whole system needs to be

892
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 6: reset when it happens and why it happens and all

893
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 6: of that. And that's more the issue to me, And unfortunately,

894
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 6: I think it's put Lane in a really tough position.

895
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 6: I can say this, I can both be excited that

896
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 6: LSU got Lane Kiffing to be their head coach and

897
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 6: say that if I was in that position, I don't

898
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 6: think I could have done it. I don't think I

899
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 6: could have left the kids in that moment to not

900
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 6: finish that season. I think I would have just waited

901
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 6: and seen what other opportunities that are out there for me.

902
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 6: That's me personally, but that's my personal decision, and Lane

903
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 6: Kiffin needed to make his own.

904
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 2: I have told this story before. There was a kid

905
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: who was and his dad they were meeting with a

906
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: college coach at a big university and it was a

907
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 2: Sunday and they were meeting with him and they wanted

908
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 2: to know, hey, the rumor is true that you might be,

909
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: you know, looking at a job in the NFL. And

910
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 2: he goes, Nope, I'm going to be here. So the

911
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 2: kid signs. Next day, coach goes to the NFL. Like,

912
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 2: come on, I'll give you an example. Dan last year,

913
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: Bryce Underwood. I was at LSU when he was there.

914
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 6: He was down there for the game, literally conversations with him,

915
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 6: his family, everything, like, hey, only places kids ever wanted

916
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 6: to play LSU. This is where he's going to go

917
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 6: to school, where like, this is everything to us. The

918
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 6: next week is when the whole entire Michigan News came

919
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 6: out to check everything, and I'm going I just looked

920
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 6: this kid in the eyes the other like six days ago,

921
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 6: and he told me that I would never want to

922
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 6: play anywhere else other than being an LSU Tiger like

923
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 6: some And that's not a bash on him, it's just

924
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 6: that is the reality. As soon as somebody else comes

925
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 6: in big money, it's hard to tell these people to

926
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 6: turn that kind of stuff down. It's life changing money

927
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 6: and people need to make their own decisions. And that's

928
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 6: my point. Lane Kiffin made the best decision for him

929
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 6: and his family. Who am I to judge that, but

930
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 6: I would say that if I was in that position,

931
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 6: I do think it'd be hard for me to leave

932
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 6: my football team. I don't think I want to do it.

933
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 2: And I this since retired coach that when Nil came out,

934
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 2: he says, oh, who's going to sign lineman with me?

935
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 2: They're just going to give them like pizza, And I go,

936
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 2: linemen are going to make big money because that's where

937
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 2: you win in college football, your offense and defensive line.

938
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 2: I mean, look at Georgia, you win in the trenches, yep.

939
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 2: And I mean certainly in the NFL. But I thought,

940
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 2: how naive to think you're not going to spend money

941
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 2: on your edge rusher or your offensive lineman just like

942
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 2: you do in the NFL. But I mean, what's the

943
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 2: biggest payout that you've heard for an offensive lineman in

944
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 2: college football.

945
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't follow a lot of the

946
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,760
Speaker 6: l stuff, but I think it is going to continue

947
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 6: to be something's huge. We've seen it in the NFL,

948
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 6: right We've seen these teams that think, hey, you can

949
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 6: try to go the skill route and not invest in

950
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 6: that position as much, and you just don't see winning happening.

951
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 6: The teams that have good offensive lines and defensive lines

952
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 6: that want to win up front are the teams we're

953
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 6: talking about at the end of the year. Every single year.

954
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 6: You look at some of the best teams in NFL.

955
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 6: This season, again, it's all teams or that's where they

956
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 6: learn to win in the trenches. And then the other

957
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 6: pieces obviously are massive. Having a quarterback, having skill players

958
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 6: in both sides of the football, all those things are massive.

959
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 6: But if you don't have the foundation of what creates

960
00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 6: football success, you're living in a pretty temper building in

961
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 6: the sense that at any point it can be cut

962
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 6: out from underneath you. And look this Detroit team that's

963
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 6: playing tomorrow night. It's a great example of that. You

964
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 6: look at how good they were upfront, how dominant they

965
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 6: were last season. You lose Zeitler, you replace your interior.

966
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 6: Frank ragnow retires. You got all new guys up there.

967
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 6: The young guy Ratlets is playing good, but he's not

968
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 6: a veteran yet, right, and then the other guys have

969
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 6: been banged up and not has played as well. The

970
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 6: interior pressure on Jared Goff has been totally different this year.

971
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 6: He's been getting hit more like it changes your football team.

972
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 6: But they still have all those other guys, Jamior Gibbs

973
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,439
Speaker 6: and Jameis and Williams and all the talents all out there.

974
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 6: But when you start to change that group up front,

975
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 6: it changes your football team.

976
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 2: If the Cowboys get into the playoffs, what is the ceiling.

977
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 6: As good as their defense can play that, I think

978
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 6: we're still can they win a Super Bowl?

979
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 2: Or can they win a Super Bowl?

980
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 6: Here's what I would say about this season, Dan Patrick,

981
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 6: I think we have seen through out the year. I

982
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 6: don't know if there's a team that's unbeatable. I think

983
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 6: at Carolina beating it at LA last week shows us that.

984
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 6: I think the parody is it truly is We use

985
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 6: that word all the time, we say it, but look

986
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 6: weak to week. I mean, there's not a team that

987
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 6: you go, man. You know, if I go to Denver, Broncos,

988
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 6: great defense, bonecks in the offense have left me like

989
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 6: wanting a lot more for a lot of weeks. You know,

990
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 6: I go to the Patriots, man, maybe they're for real.

991
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 6: I mean, Drake May you look at them. But then

992
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 6: I go back and I go, wait, didn't they get

993
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 6: beat by the Raiders and the Steelers this year? Like

994
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 6: it's teams where you go, man, this team's unbeatable, but

995
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 6: well they lost to who? And so it's tons of

996
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 6: that this year. I don't think there's a team that

997
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 6: you sit there and go, man, this team without questions

998
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 6: making a run. I think we're gonna see who's hot

999
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 6: and who's healthy, and that that team has got a

1000
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 6: chance to go win a Super Bowl this year. Because

1001
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 6: if you look at Dallas, what a team's love to

1002
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 6: do right now? I mean, you play man to man

1003
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 6: this game matchup against Detroit and you're gonna try to

1004
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 6: who's got George Pickens and Cede Lamb, which one do

1005
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 6: you want to cover? And teams are having to do that.

1006
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 6: That's one of the things that they're doing well. They're

1007
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 6: splitting them up and they're saying which guy do you

1008
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 6: want to lean to? We got the quarterback. People forget

1009
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 6: how good Dak Prescott is, and we'll go to whichever

1010
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 6: guy you don't lean to, and we can win. And

1011
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 6: so I think, to me, how good can the defense be?

1012
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,959
Speaker 6: How healthy can they be? That gives their ceiling because

1013
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 6: they've got an opportunity to go score with anybody in

1014
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 6: the NFL. And right now, if you look at offensive football,

1015
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 6: I mean there's a lot of teams, even the good ones,

1016
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 6: that have seemed to really struggle with being consistent on offense.

1017
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 2: I think Brian Kelly's accent is better than yours.

1018
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 6: There's there's no question. That was probably the first moment

1019
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 6: that everybody should have been like whoah. So you know,

1020
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 6: I get it if I go down there. Ryan Fitzpatrick

1021
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 6: always gives me crap as soon as I go down

1022
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 6: there to a game where I go visit. We have

1023
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 6: a Saints game. We come back and he's like, wait,

1024
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 6: what happened to you? And I'm like, dude, it just

1025
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 6: it comes out. I get back around it. I have

1026
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 6: a you know, I have a couple of friede shrimp

1027
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 6: and get some rum alah and then some and it

1028
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 6: just starts man, it just starts, it starts folding out there.

1029
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 2: Great to talk to you again, Thank you, buddy, Always

1030
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 2: appreciate it.

1031
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 6: Brother Andrew Wentworth