1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Katsey I know he Armstrong and Eddy, 4 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 2: we know that. 5 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 3: He does not have the ability to do the job. 6 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 3: He is unfit for office. He talks at his rallies 7 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 3: about fictional characters. He constantly is in a state of 8 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 3: grievance about himself. He has no plans for the American people, 9 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 3: and then he just makes things up on a full 10 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 3: time basis. 11 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: So that's Kamala Harris from the same tarmac. A little 12 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: speech she gave on Friday or Saturday where she started 13 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: getting into Trump needs to release his medical records. She 14 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: talked about how she released hers and as as a 15 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: fifty nine year old woman, she's basically healthy as you'd expect. 16 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: But Trump needs to release his medical records and that's 17 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: a scandal and all that sort of stuff. Maybe we 18 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: talk about that particular aspect of it more later, but 19 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: for instance there, because we're going to talk about free speech, 20 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: she said, he references fictional characters. Yeah, she's talking about 21 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: when he talks about Hannibal Lecter, which he talks about 22 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: a lot which is weird, and he always works it 23 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: in somehow. But it's not like he's making up. I mean, 24 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: she's implying that he's like delusional and things that don't exist. 25 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: He starts talking. 26 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 4: About is the senator from Vermont? 27 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: Right yeah, right now, right right now? And and that's 28 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: what she's implying. And both sides do this all the time. 29 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: They say things that are well, they're just they're just 30 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 1: factually not true or designed to be misleading. 31 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 5: Happens all the time. 32 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: It's in their very ads, the ads where they talk 33 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: about Trump promises a blood bath if he loses, and 34 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: we all know, well, you know if you listen to 35 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: the show talking about the electric car industry, not blood. 36 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 5: In the streets. 37 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: So that is misinformation, which leads us to this whole 38 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: free speech issue that has become so interesting. I got 39 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: a couple of different examples. This is from The Atlantic, 40 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: very highly respected left leaning magazine, which is a website 41 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: that they used to print on paper for some reason, 42 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: The Atlantic is a website. Does anybody actually get it 43 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: a copy of the Atlantic anymore? 44 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? 45 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 5: Can you get a copy of The Atlantic? Yes, you can, 46 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 5: you can. 47 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: You know why that is because people like to have 48 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: it sitting on their coffee table because it makes you 49 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: look important and smart. 50 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, those idiots do, but not me. You still 51 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 4: get the Atlantic I used to get it. I do 52 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 4: because I want to hear what arguments they're making. Huh oh, well, 53 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 4: I like the Atlantic When it's good, it's very very good. 54 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 4: When it's obnoxious, it's completely obnoxious. 55 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: But here's one of the stories from last week, written 56 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: by a guy named Charlie Worzel. His headline was, I'm 57 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: running out of ways to explain how bad this is. 58 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: What's happening in America today is something darker than a 59 00:02:55,639 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: misinformation crisis. Here's a little quote from it. Free speech 60 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: was and is an unmitigated disaster. I know it sounds inflammatory, 61 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: but every piece of evidence points to the fact that 62 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: we really need aggressive government regulation of speech platforms. The 63 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: free market does not work and never will with speech 64 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: that is one of the more dangerous people in America. 65 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: That fella right there, and people who think like him. 66 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: Can you believe? Can you imagine being that delusional? We 67 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: need to empower the government to censor us. That will 68 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: help us have a happy life. Well, and the examples 69 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: I just gave so I suppose this guy would think, no, 70 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: this stuff Kamala Harris said about bloodbath, that's okay, ure, 71 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: But stuff Trump saying that is misleading or false is 72 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: got to be outlawed like. 73 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 5: The one sided fact checking. Right here's it. 74 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 4: For instance, I'm watching the football yesterday, the briefly entertaining 75 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 4: Steelers Raiders game, hearkening back to the rivalry of old 76 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 4: but the Raiders just. 77 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 5: Plots to anyway. 78 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 4: Ah. But there are a bunch of local political commercials, 79 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 4: various congressional races, including oh, by the way, every single 80 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 4: Democratic ad was about abortion. Each one that I saw 81 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 4: was about abortion, and one made crystal clear. And this 82 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 4: is a really tight, interesting race. That longtime friend of 83 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 4: the Armstrong and Getty show, Kevin Kylie, who is a 84 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 4: really good guy and really good on liberty, that he 85 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 4: believes there should be no abortion even in cases of 86 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 4: rape and incest and child molestation. 87 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 5: And mabe, I thought, wait. 88 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 4: A minute, really, I don't think that doesn't sound like Kevin, 89 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 4: and I looked it up. That is utterly false, utterly false. 90 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 4: It's been quote unquote fact checked and is so false. 91 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 4: Even the fact checkers, who tend to be lefties said No, 92 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 4: that's not true, utter falsehood. So do I want the 93 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 4: government to step in and prosecute political speech for being incorrect? 94 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 5: No, of course not. 95 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 4: But that's a the desperation that they have. And b 96 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 4: I'll bet the Atlantic doesn't mention that sort of thing 97 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 4: at all. 98 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: Right, And again the sub headline on this from this 99 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: guy who I don't know how you can be smart 100 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: and not understand this running out of excuses, of ways 101 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: to explain how bad this is is the headline in 102 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: the technology part. The free market doesn't work and never 103 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: will when it comes to regulating speech. 104 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 4: No, regulating, No, we don't want to, sir. We want 105 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 4: to refute it, argue it be better than it, like 106 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 4: always in our history. 107 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: But so him is a smart guy, you know, he 108 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: writes for The Atlantic, that's pretty successful journalism career. Does 109 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: he believe that the government could get involved in a 110 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: fair way? 111 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 5: Is that what he is? 112 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 4: That what that crowd believes? Yes, yeah, they're delusional. Intelligence 113 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 4: and wisdom have about the same relationship as height and 114 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 4: playing the violin, None that I can see. 115 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 5: Wow, that's interesting. 116 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 4: Like Thomas sol says, there are some ideas so ridiculous 117 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 4: or ludicrous only an intellectual could believe them. 118 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: Well, I feel like I can argue him out of 119 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: his position in like half an hour. And I'm sure 120 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,679 Speaker 1: he's smarter than I am. But i'd say, so, whatever 121 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: board you're gonna put in place to make this these decisions, 122 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: are you okay if Trump wins and then he. 123 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 5: Appoints the board, because that's what's going to happen. You realize. 124 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 4: That a lack of wisdom that ella fantine is difficult 125 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 4: for me to picture, and I'm not sure how to 126 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 4: argue against it. 127 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 5: Well, I know i'd argue against it. I just don't 128 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 5: know that it would work because. 129 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 4: I can't picture what he is thinking other than being utterly, 130 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 4: like religiously convinced that our side is always right and 131 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 4: when we're wrong, it's just an accident. But even if 132 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 4: the other side is utterly dishonest and evil. 133 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: Even if you believe that which is nuts, Yeah, your 134 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: side isn't always going to win, So then the other 135 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: side's going to get to do this? 136 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 5: Are you okay with that? That's my point. 137 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 4: Maybe he's one of those guys who is so convinced that, 138 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 4: you know, Republicans, if we can only suppress this misinformation 139 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 4: and disinformation. 140 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 5: What's the difference between those two? By the way, I 141 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 5: don't have to go with both. That's true. People always 142 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 5: say both. 143 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 6: Hm. 144 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 4: Anyway, ah, it doesn't matter degrees of incorrectness, I guess anyway. 145 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 5: Ah. 146 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 4: Oh, he probably believes to his soul that if we 147 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 4: can expose the evil of the terrible Republicans, they will 148 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 4: never win another election. 149 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 5: You'd have to believe that, otherwise your plan is not 150 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,119 Speaker 5: going to work again. 151 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 4: The capacity for really intelligent people to utterly lack wisdom 152 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 4: is one of the more amazing things I've learned to 153 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 4: accept as an adult. 154 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 5: I haven't accepted it yet. I need to work on it. 155 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 4: Well, I need to work on my abs. So you know, 156 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 4: we both got our tasks ahead of us. The appropriately 157 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 4: named James Freeman in the Wall Street Journal wrote a 158 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 4: great opinion piece recently about Kamala Harris's long history of 159 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 4: hostility to free expression, and he quotes Bobby Suave from 160 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 4: Reason dot Com, who was writing about the fact that 161 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 4: Tim Watz keeps repeating his false claim that the US 162 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 4: Constitution's First Amendment does not protect misinformation or hate speech. 163 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 4: Suave writs Walls defended his position by glibly asserting that 164 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 4: it is constitutionally impromissible to yell fire and a crowded theater. 165 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 4: And we went over this last week, I guess or 166 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 4: the week before. It comes from a nineteen nineteen case 167 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 4: Shank vers the United States, which was one of the 168 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 4: worst Supreme Court decisions of all time, utterly disregards the 169 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 4: First Amendment. It was overturned, disavowed, and the idea that 170 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 4: Oliver Wendell Holmes was trying to express, who is that? 171 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 4: You know, if it seems unwise or somebody might get hurt, we. 172 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 5: Can limit free speech, we can prohibit it. 173 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 4: And again that that doctrine has been completely flushed down 174 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 4: the toilet of history, partly because of the toilet of history. Yes, yes, 175 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 4: you know toh. Anyway, today we recognize the right to 176 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 4: criticize US military policy in a post foreign wars are 177 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 4: an essential component of the First Amendment, and the Supreme 178 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 4: Court agreed. Shank was overturned da da da as, just 179 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 4: as Samuel Alito when a twenty seventeen blockbuster observed that quote, 180 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 4: the proudest boast of our free speech jurisprudence is that 181 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 4: we protect the freedom to express the thought we hate 182 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 4: It could not be more simple. Hate speech is protected 183 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 4: by the First Amendment, and it shouldn't be surprising. If 184 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 4: hate speech constituted unprotected speech, it would create all sorts 185 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 4: of problems. What counts as hateful speech is partly suggest subjective. 186 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, That's that's problem number one with the term 187 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: hate speech at all. 188 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 5: Who gets to decide what's hate speech? 189 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 4: Religious people, for instance, might find blastphemy to be hateful, 190 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 4: but it's sufficiently obvious that the federal government cannot criminalize 191 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 4: criticism of religion. Similarly, political figures might determine that their 192 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 4: opponents running attack ads against them are examples of hateful messaging. 193 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 4: If censorship was allowed on this basis, there would be 194 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 4: no end in sight. And George Mason University law professor 195 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 4: TODDSWICKI noted, quote, is it is ironic that Wall's saying 196 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 4: there's no First Amendment protection for misinformation? 197 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 5: Is itself misinformation? 198 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: The toilet of history clogged with the wipes of disinformation? 199 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 5: Wow? Wow? Too much? Uh? Yeah? 200 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 4: And they go into the how the Biden administration is 201 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 4: trying to define misinformation mal They use disinformation, misinformation and malinformation, Nah, 202 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 4: three different kinds of the same thing trying to ex 203 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 4: Austas just threw too many words. I guess the last category, 204 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 4: so you know, I call it synonym fatigue. The last 205 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 4: category was defined by the Biden administration as informed as information, 206 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 4: quote based on fact, but used out of context to mislead, 207 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 4: harm or manipulate. So one cannot even freely say things 208 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 4: that are true. If Joe Biden and Kamala Harris think 209 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 4: they're being presented out of context, are you blanking kidding me? 210 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 4: I will fight these people until my last breath. And 211 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 4: the claim that only one side is doing that is hilarious. 212 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, how can you do that with a straight face. 213 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 4: Here's a question for you, and I think I know 214 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 4: the answer, and it's terrible to consider. Do they seriously 215 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 4: want to do what they say they want to do 216 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 4: or are they just pandering to the. 217 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 5: Media. 218 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 4: I guess the lefty media. I mean, because if they're 219 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 4: seriously trying to seize the First Amendment and pervert it 220 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 4: out of all recognizable form, I mean that is a 221 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 4: serious threat. That's not like Trump is gonna never hold 222 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 4: another election. He's fat and he's eighty. Come on, Andy, please, 223 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 4: every buddy, every party would say, yeah, we're holding an election, 224 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 4: get out of the White House. 225 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: But this is a serious threat to me. Sure, that's 226 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: why we need to be the plungers that unclaw to. 227 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 5: You know what, I blame myself, folks, I blame myself. 228 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: How about what Elon Musk pulled off with this rocket 229 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: Over the weekend, we got to talk about that, among 230 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: other things. 231 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 5: Stay here shot. 232 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 6: The most ambitious SpaceX uncrewed mission yet. Starship blasting off 233 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 6: for its fifth test flight. But this time there's a 234 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 6: big catch. The world's largest rocket sending a ship into orbit. 235 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 6: But this new chapter in space history is all about 236 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 6: what happened back on Earth. The rocket guides down to 237 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 6: the launch pad, where it is literally caught by giant 238 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 6: metal pincers. The program, in partnership with NASA, aims to 239 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 6: reuse equipment for man missions to the Moon as early 240 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 6: as twenty twenty six and eventually even as far as Mars. 241 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely amazing. Watch that with my son over the weekend. 242 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: So it's the world's largest rocket that Elon launched and 243 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: his reusable rocket technology that he invented that has changed everything. 244 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: This thing came floating back down, flipped on the burners, landed, 245 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 1: got caught by these like it was like like when 246 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: you pick up a piece of shrimp with your. 247 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 5: Chopsticks. 248 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it looked like chopsticks grabbing the rocket and holding 249 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: it and it just landed and everybody cheered like crazy, and. 250 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 4: It reattached itself to the launch pad. Yeah, crane thingy. 251 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 4: It was one of the most astounding things I've ever 252 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 4: witnessed in my life and everybody else who witnessed it. 253 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, And so that you can, one you save a 254 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: ton of money as you don't have to you know, 255 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: recreate that thing and move it and all the different 256 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: sort of stuff, so you can have quicker, much cheaper launches. 257 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 5: Do we not have that natural sound? 258 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? 259 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 5: Everybody going crazy and cheering. That was fun. 260 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, and uh oh well, Hanson and I 261 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: were talking about that there's a showbiz aspect to it 262 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: because it's a private company, so he has reason to 263 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: have everybody get really really excited about you know, his private. 264 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 5: Companies actually can do this sort of stuff. 265 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: And it's interesting that new segment said planning to go 266 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: to the Moon in a couple of years. Elon's saying 267 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: he's planning to send a rocket to Mars within two years. 268 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 5: Wow. 269 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: Now he always exaggerates, but even if he's exaggerating by double, 270 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: it's four years. And when we send the rockets to Mars, 271 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: that's astounding. But he does stuff on such a faster 272 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: pace than NASA ever did. NASA would do a little 273 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: thing and then like two years later there'd be another 274 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: little thing. 275 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 5: Fail fast and learn faster. Yeah, it's it's really quite extraordinary. 276 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 4: Red brief. I wish I hadn't in front of me 277 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 4: description by an engineer of the mind boggling precision that 278 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 4: was required to do that in the immense forces that 279 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 4: had to be marshaled in exactly the right way to 280 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 4: pull off something that miraculous. And I wish I had 281 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 4: the training to fully appreciate the sophistication of what they achieved. 282 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 4: But you know, I came away from that and I 283 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 4: think I have a pretty well rounded attitude about Elon 284 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 4: Musk and his qualities and his voibles. 285 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 5: A genius nut, Yeah, he is a genius nut. 286 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 4: I think he is going to be seen in the 287 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 4: same way as like a Galileo, absolutely absolutely, yeah. 288 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. And Galileo was a bit of a kuckla, they say. 289 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: But here's another good one speaking of Elon Musk California 290 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: official site, Elon Musk's politics and rejecting SpaceX launches in California. 291 00:15:58,520 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 5: They don't want SpaceX doing it. 292 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: State officials actually cited Elon's politics as they rejected SpaceX's 293 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: plan to launch more rockets off the central California coast. 294 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: So that one was in Texas the other day where 295 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: he launched the world's biggest rocket and came back down 296 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: when they caught it. He wants to do more testing 297 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: in California for a variety of reasons, and the state 298 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: has said no and actually cited his politics for the 299 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: reason to. 300 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 5: Not let him do it. 301 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 4: In so many ways, California is committing suicide. 302 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: Elon has filed a suit against them for violating the 303 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: First Amendment somehow. It's the California Coastal Commission. Ah, that 304 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: all powerful board. Yeah, whatever they do. But I suppose 305 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: because they cited his political speech for a reason for 306 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: canceling basically a contract that is a free speech issue. 307 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 5: Wow, yeah, go get him Elon. Isn't that crazy though? 308 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 4: It's disgusting, It's pathetic. California is just pathetic in so 309 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 4: many ways. But they'll elect the same folks over and 310 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 4: over again. 311 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 5: So jd. 312 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: Vance, Trump's running mate goes on the talk shows every Sunday. 313 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: He loves doing it, and he had quite a performance yesterday. 314 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 5: We'll play with some of it, Armstrong and Getty. 315 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 3: He's not being transparent, so check this out. 316 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 5: He refuses to release his medical records. 317 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: I've done it. 318 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 3: Every other presidential camp, every other presidential candidate in modern 319 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:36,959 Speaker 3: era has done it. 320 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: It's interesting. So she went really big on that over 321 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: the weekend. Is that gonna be their closing argument? That 322 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: Trump is physically slash mentally unfit to be president? 323 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 4: Tell you what, I've seen zero percent of Americans give 324 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 4: a crap about that. Can you imagine that being on 325 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 4: your list of issues that's going to determine your vote? 326 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 4: What did I see as there was something specific you 327 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 4: were concerned about? I think it was, uh, we might 328 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 4: even have the clip, but I think it was what's 329 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,719 Speaker 4: her name on Meet the Press, the NBC woman saying 330 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 4: people should know the cholesterol blah blah blah blah blah. 331 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 5: Like really, what you'd think? 332 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: You think that the voters out there on their list 333 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: of issues, Trump's LDL is high. 334 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 5: It is to laugh. Oh my goodness. Uh, so there's that. 335 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 4: Hey, Kamala Harris, she seems reasonably fit, she wants the job. 336 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 5: Fine, I don't need to see any medical records. What 337 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 5: are you talking about? 338 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: Well, I definitely think Trump is not the same as 339 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: he was in twenty sixteen. He's getting older too. Yeah, 340 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: but we know from the whole Biden thing there's really 341 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: no such thing as an easy, definitive test of how 342 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: your mind is slipping as you get older. 343 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 5: Well, right, there's all the cherry disclosure anyway. 344 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a line you can cross to go past 345 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: the line where you can be, you know, committed to 346 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: a home or something like that. But nobody thinks he's 347 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: in that situation. 348 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 5: Right. 349 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 4: It's well, there might be some objective measures of one 350 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 4: aspect of it or another, but it's got to be 351 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 4: fairly similar to how crazy is crazy? 352 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, it. 353 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 1: Would be very and you could find in that you 354 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: could find plenty of experts who would say you're not 355 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: healthy enough, and plenty it could say you were. 356 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 5: So he'll find something that will say you are. And 357 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 5: then so what's the point of this meaningless exercise exactly? 358 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: So there's that. Oh, oh, we got a text about 359 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: Columbus Day. I want to do that first before you 360 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: get back into politics. Did you even know as Columbus Day? 361 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: I only know because it came up yesterday with my 362 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: son's friends who go to public school and have the 363 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: day off. He doesn't have the day off because he's 364 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 1: going to private school, and they don't have the day 365 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: off because it's Columbus Day, because God help honoring the 366 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: genocidal human trafficker Columbus. In California, they now call it 367 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: Indigenous People's Day. 368 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 4: Yes, number of places around the country. Judy and I 369 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 4: are going to celebrate as we always do. We launch 370 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 4: three model boats at the lake in a local park 371 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 4: and cry softly while thinking about the heroism of Columbus 372 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 4: and his crew. 373 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 5: I go to an Indian casine and say, get out 374 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 5: of here. This is mine. Now, wow, we won. That's 375 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 5: ugly it is. 376 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: I had actually some more on this whole thing, this 377 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: whole dumb thing from Axios. The number of states that 378 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: honored is Columbus Day versus Indigenous People Day and the 379 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: difference in between and the banks are closed and whatever. 380 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 1: The whole thing is dumb, but it depends where you live. 381 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: So we got this text I'm visiting New York listening 382 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: to Armstrong and Geddy and laughing at Jack's ongoing issue 383 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: with Columbus Day. As I've said for many years, it's 384 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: America's stupidest holiday, federal holiday. 385 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 5: But now it's gotten stupider as. 386 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: They've replaced a day that shouldn't exist at all with 387 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: something else that is historically its presentism. Yeah, sure, yeah, 388 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: one hundred percent presentism. Every country in the world was 389 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: going around and trying to exploit other resources and grabbing 390 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: up people. 391 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 5: Everybody in the world was doing that. 392 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 4: Yes, indeed, including the indigenous peoples in many cases. 393 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 5: Yes. 394 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: Here in New York there's a Columbus Day parade today 395 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: and they're expecting one million people. So much for me 396 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: visiting Central Park today. So they're going to have a 397 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: one million person attended parade Donnor Columbus Day, while the 398 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: school in my neighborhood refuses to call it Columbus Day 399 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 1: because he was a genocidalmaniac. 400 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 5: That's pretty interesting. 401 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 4: It's not like New York is read either, no, no, 402 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 4: but it's so heavily Italian, and that's such a tradition 403 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 4: there it would seem absurd to give it up. 404 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 5: It's worth pointing out. 405 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 4: I think that while you know, indigenous peoples and cultures 406 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 4: in history are really interesting worth studying, like any other 407 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 4: group of humans on Earth, it's not a coincidence that 408 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 4: the whole not Columbus Day, Indigenous People's Day, is a 409 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 4: rejection of Western civilization. Right in the Neo Marxist traditions. 410 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 4: Columbus was a bad guy. Europeans were are bad guys, 411 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 4: White people, any sort of modernity, it's all bad. 412 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 5: It must be overthrown. 413 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,959 Speaker 1: Yep, that is what's behind it. Yeah, absolutely, Maybe I'll 414 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: get into that more later. How different states celebrated because 415 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: it's kind of actually funny, but this happened yesterday on 416 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: ABC This Week, in which Martha Raddits was the host. 417 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 1: She had jd Vance on. He went on a bunch 418 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 1: of shows. I wish I was as confident as he 419 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: is with himself in handling it. He's willing to sit 420 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: down anywhere, talk to anybody about anything because he's so 421 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: confident in his own brain power. Yeah, but he has 422 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: no concerns whatsoever. 423 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 4: And well he's super smart too, so is command of 424 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 4: facts is terrific. 425 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 5: Right, So here's a. 426 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: Conversation there having around immigration and things Trump says on 427 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: the campaign trail and this and. 428 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 7: That President Trump was actually in Aurora, Colorado talking to 429 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 7: people on the ground. And what we're hearing, of course, Martha, 430 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 7: is that people are terrified by what has happened with 431 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:00,719 Speaker 7: some of these venice whalen gangs. 432 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 8: Senator Vance, I'm going to stop you, because I know 433 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 8: exactly what happens. 434 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 5: I'm going to stop you. 435 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 8: The incidents were limited to a handful of apartment complexes, 436 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 8: and the mayor said, our dedicated police officers have acted 437 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 8: on those concerns a handful of problems. 438 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 7: Only, Martha, do you hear yourself? Only a handful of 439 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 7: apartment complexes in America we're taken over by Venezuelan gangs. 440 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 7: And Donald Trump is the problem and not Kamala Harris's 441 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 7: open border. Americans are so fed up with what's going on, 442 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 7: and they. 443 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 5: Have every right to be. 444 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 7: And I really find this exchange, Martha is sort of 445 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 7: interesting because you seem to be more focused with nitpicking 446 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 7: everything that Donald Trump has said, rather than acknowledging that 447 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 7: apartment complexes in the United States of America are being 448 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 7: taken over by violent gangs. 449 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 5: Wow, that's well done. 450 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: Nobody watches those shows, but I have a feeling that 451 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: clip is going to bounce around quite a bit in 452 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: the media. Yeah, the problem is not the open borders, 453 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: it's what's Trump, what Trump has said about them. 454 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 5: Holy cow. 455 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: I have a feeling having watched that, because I've done 456 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: this myself before, where you realize, oops, I made a 457 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: mistake or I'm wrong, or my position as good. 458 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 5: As I thought it was. 459 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: I have a feeling she was thinking that when he 460 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: uh came back with the Wait a second, do you 461 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: hear yourself? You're saying, only a couple of apartment complexes 462 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: we're taking over. Yeah, she was probably thinking, Yeah, that's 463 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: a pribaby, that's pretty decent argument. 464 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 5: That's funny when you put it that way. Yeah. Wow, 465 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 5: that that well, that was beautifully done by j D. Yeah. 466 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 4: What was funny about Saturday Night Live? I thought they 467 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 4: were opening skit where it was a family feud between 468 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 4: Harris and Biden and their spouse or whatever, and the 469 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 4: Republicans was Trump and and Don Junior and JD. 470 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 5: Vance. 471 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 1: Millennia wasn't there. She had just had a space where 472 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: his wife would be. Yeah, and that was a pretty 473 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 1: good shot anyway, but it was funny. There only joke 474 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: clearly about Donald Junior and jd Vance's don't we don't 475 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: get allowed to talk. We're not allowed to talk, and 476 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: so we'll just defer to Donald. I just that joke 477 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: didn't land with me at all because jd Vance is 478 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: out there like crazy, no kidding, and incredibly effectively, to 479 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: the point that some would wish he was the candidate. Anyway, 480 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: here's another interesting thing. I don't know how many people 481 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: notice this. It's a visual. She would have had to 482 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 1: have seen it. But so they are playing family feud. 483 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: Trump people on one side, Harris people on the other side. 484 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: It's Kamala her husband Walls, and Joe Biden and Dana 485 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 1: Carvey's Joe Biden, which is so freaking good. Do we 486 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: have some of the audio on that, Henson, just to 487 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: give an example, but I can fill in the the 488 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: visual park oh three, yeah, give me three. 489 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 8: And bother of ly on the Democrats side is President 490 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 8: Joe Biden. 491 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 4: Per se. 492 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 5: Thank you, Regius. Great to be here on the crew. 493 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 9: The family food food to do dude. Anyway, and guess what, 494 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 9: and by the way, the show's great. 495 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 5: I'm being serious right now. Well, thank you very much. 496 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 5: I gotta say you're looking pretty good. 497 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 9: Yeah, because I'm getting my rest. Number One, I sleep 498 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 9: when I can. Number two, I'm asleep right now. 499 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: So he did the thing he did the week before, 500 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: where he'd lock up and start the camera. But both 501 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: times he did it, they immediately cut away from him. Yes, 502 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: I think that was a director's decision. They weren't gonna 503 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: tell Dana Carvey, hey, that whole you stare and lock 504 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: up is too much. They weren't gonna say that to 505 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: the great Dana Carvey because because I don't think you 506 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: can tell Dana Carvey. 507 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 5: What to do. 508 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: I noticed that too, and they respect him too much. 509 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: But Lorne Michaels thought, no, we got to cut away 510 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: from that. We can't hang on Dana Carvey with his 511 00:26:55,200 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 1: mouth open staring at the camera, which actually might be 512 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: too much mockery of a sitting president in a dangerous world. 513 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 4: It's a little uncomfortable too, because the ravages of age 514 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 4: will come for us all who make it to old age. 515 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 5: And I don't mind that so much. I would have him. 516 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 4: I would have him do When Biden closes his eyes 517 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 4: and looks like he's concentrating, trying to get his brain 518 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 4: to work. 519 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a free speech guy, and we shouldn't 520 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: we shouldn't be covering up a story. 521 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 5: But as we also should like really. 522 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: Hang our hat on. How funny it is that our 523 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: current president has lost his mind. Either to announce to 524 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: the world, I don't know, but clearly that was a 525 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: decision that Saturday Night Live made. They were not going 526 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: to let Dana Carvey do the president's staring off into 527 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: space thing. Yeah, because they cut away immediately and the 528 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: crowd would be laughing because they were seeing it. 529 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 5: Yes, but they didn't want to show it to the public. 530 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 5: That's that's interesting. 531 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: Anyway, back to jd vance his point there. He made 532 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: Martha right, it's absolutely fantastic, and Trump is winning on 533 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: that issue so hard. And again the poll out that 534 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: it's almost sixty percent of Americans want all undocumented people deported. 535 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 4: Right, which is an extreme policy. I don't take that literally. 536 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 4: I think it is a message that Americans are trying 537 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 4: to send to especially to the media establishment. 538 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, we have sixty percent of people are saying, I 539 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 1: don't care how extreme it is. I'd say, yes, that's 540 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: how upset I am about the open border policy. So 541 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: Trump's an incredibly solid ground by exaggerating the threat of 542 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: the Venezuelan gangs and everything like that. 543 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 5: And like JD. Vancid, you know how much of. 544 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: An exaggeration is A couple of apartment complexes got taken 545 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: over by a violent Venezuelan gang seems like a pretty 546 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: big deal in the United States, in the middle of 547 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: the United States. It's not like it was even on 548 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: that'd be bad enough. It was if it was on 549 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: the Mexican border. 550 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 4: Right well, And it wasn't in some big city where 551 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 4: lawlessness tends to run rampant. It was in a suburb 552 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 4: of Denver. And the video of well armed gangs moving 553 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 4: military style through an apartment complex, knocking indoors and taking 554 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 4: in or killing or whatever they wanted, that's horrifying. I 555 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 4: think any American could see that. And it almost doesn't 556 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 4: matter where it was, but it's more extreme that it 557 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 4: was in a fairly calm suburb. 558 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 5: That's horrifying. 559 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 4: It's just a handful of apartment complexes. 560 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 7: J D. 561 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 8: I'm going to stop you. The incidents were limited to 562 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 8: a handful of apartment complexes, and the mayor said, our 563 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 8: dedicated police officers have acted on those. 564 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 7: Concerned Martha, do you hear yourself? Only a handful of 565 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 7: apartment complexes in America were taken over by Venezuelan gangs. 566 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,959 Speaker 1: That's really good. And by the way, once again a 567 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: fact check on a Republican. They never do that to Democrats. No, 568 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: Democrats get to come out and lay out whatever their 569 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: spiel is on whatever topic, and they never get fact checked. 570 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 5: That. 571 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: Nobody's ever going to jump in on Tim Walls or 572 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: anybody say, just to interrupt you real quickly, there are 573 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: states where they allow late term abortion. 574 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 5: They're never gonna do that. 575 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 4: No, And you know, I said nice things about Martha 576 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 4: Ratits I think it was last week, but for her 577 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 4: to say it's limited to a handful of apartment complexes, 578 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 4: and JD caught her on that, and you know, frankly 579 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 4: flipped her and pinder rhetorically speaking, wow, rhetorically speaking purely, 580 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 4: she's like. 581 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 5: Eighty years old. It's rhetorical anyway. 582 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 4: And this strong statement, and the mayor said, our dedicated 583 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 4: police officers have acted on those concerns. 584 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 5: Wait a minute, what does that mean? 585 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 4: Right, So the cops have done something in a handful 586 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 4: of apartment complexes taken over by armed Venezuelan gangs, so 587 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 4: we shouldn't worry about it. 588 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 5: Nice argument, Martha. 589 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, the only thing we should talk about is Trump 590 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: is stating it being further than that. 591 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's insensitive. He talked about cat eating. Well, let's 592 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 4: not talk about Trenty Ragua. Let's talk about cat eating. 593 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 4: He lets, they're eating cats. Nobody's eating cats. Oivey. Our 594 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 4: media so terrible, so utterly biased. I know, you know, 595 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 4: I know, I know everybody knows, but it just every day. 596 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: Set your mouth because uh, we got three weeks to go, 597 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: and it's gonna get crazier and crazier. 598 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 5: As we get closer to election day. 599 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, on the media being all in for their side, 600 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: we got more in the ways to hear. Scientists have 601 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: released a detailed map of a fruit fli's brain, and 602 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: it's actually very different from a straight fli's brain. 603 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 2: That's a hard time, he's okay, you know what I 604 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 2: can't it's the nineties called no what Wow? 605 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: You know what we ought to improve? You know what 606 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: we ought to do while we're doing inappropriate things? 607 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 7: Oh? 608 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 5: Oh, did you hear this? I'm not sure we got 609 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 5: to set this up Okay, it's the Uh, where's my sheet? 610 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 5: I was at ten? That's long. 611 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's funny if you haven't heard it. I 612 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: mean it's so do you know how they do the 613 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: thing on Saturday? And it's got an interesting sociological point, 614 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: but okay, you know how they do the thing on 615 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live. If you don't watch Saturday Night Live, 616 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: there's a there's a Colin jose and Michael Jay, and 617 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: Colin Joseph's white and Michael Chase black, and Michael cha 618 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: is always ribbing Colin about being racist, which is not 619 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: obviously they're all lefty liberal, not til you have. 620 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 5: To you know, yeah, wait a minute to say anyway, So. 621 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: Every now and then they write jokes for each other, 622 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: right and the and they're obligated to read. Yeah, and 623 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: so Michael Jay always writes jokes for Colin Jos that 624 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: make him sound like a racist. And the interesting thing 625 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: to me with this trick is it allows them to 626 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: do incredibly inappropriate jokes. 627 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 5: Yes, but get away with it. And here's an example 628 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 5: right here. 629 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 10: Corner Brothers is producing a new movie in which Superman 630 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 10: is black, and a black Superman actually makes a lot 631 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 10: of sense when you remember that Superman was abandoned by 632 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 10: his parents as a. 633 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 4: Big pare. 634 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 5: It gets it gets worse? 635 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 10: Well, I knew you'd like that one. 636 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 5: Another one. 637 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 10: Warner Brothers is producing a new movie in which Superman 638 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 10: is black. In this version, black Superman scryptonite is honest 639 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 10: Day's word. 640 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 5: No, who who? Oh my god? 641 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 10: Before go, I just thought of another punchline for that 642 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 10: black Superman. Superman will be her podcast A Man of 643 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 10: Steel smelled Styes. 644 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 1: So what I think is interesting about I feel like 645 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: you could do a college class on this. 646 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 5: The fact that everybody laughed. 647 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,959 Speaker 1: At those jokes, everybody in the audience. Yeah, I laughed 648 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: at him, You laughed at him. Everybody laughed at him. 649 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: You could never do them as a straight up joke. 650 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 5: Just come out and do the joke right. 651 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 1: But if you portray it is like you have to 652 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 1: go out of your way to say this is something 653 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to make him say because it makes him 654 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: look bad. Then you can make the same joke right 655 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: and everybody laughs at what what sort. 656 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,439 Speaker 5: Of weird mind trick are we playing on ourselves? 657 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? I'm also reminded of Ricky Gervay's screed, which is 658 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 4: so brilliant about he'll say something, you know, he'll give 659 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 4: like a wildly inappropriate punchline, I mean, just totally politically 660 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 4: incorrect or way edgy or whatever, and everybody laughs, and 661 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 4: he points out we're laughing to indicate we agree that's outrageous. Right, 662 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 4: We're not laughing because we approve of it, right, we're 663 00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 4: laughing because we disapprove them. 664 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 1: But to me, hey, this is just political correctness run 665 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: am up that you can't just do those jokes straight up. 666 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live back in the day would have, like 667 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: in the seventies certainly when they started, would have just 668 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,399 Speaker 1: done those jokes straight up and everybody had laughed because 669 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: it's so outrageous and over the line. Now they have 670 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: to do this weird trick. But they still want the 671 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 1: jokes on the show. That's the interesting thing. Yeah, and 672 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 1: they get it both ways. Yeah, Yeah, very smart. It's 673 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 1: honest day's work. 674 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 4: Some notes on, Hey, I will it take over the 675 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 4: world and kill us all? 676 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 5: Probably stay June Armstrong and getdy