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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up straight firefam HiT's me Jason McIntyre. Straight

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Speaker 2: Fire for Friday, August twenty third. The weekend is here.

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Speaker 2: It's a big fantasy football draft weekend. We thought we'd

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Speaker 2: be able to secure a fantasy football guest, but we're

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Speaker 2: gonna have to push it to next week. A programming note.

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Speaker 2: Next week is all of a sudden, I think we'll

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Speaker 2: just get a bunch of guests because the herd is

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Speaker 2: going dark next week, a gift from the heavens. Finally,

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Speaker 2: a week off for I don't have to take vacation now. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: the kids are back in school, so I can't really

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Speaker 2: do anything exciting, probably just like, you know, play a

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Speaker 2: little hoops, maybe some beach runs, hit the gym, you know.

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Speaker 2: And I guess we'll be able to because the window

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Speaker 2: for recording interviews opens up big time, you know. With

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Speaker 2: the time difference, it's sometimes tough to get East Coast guys.

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Speaker 2: But so we'll do the fantasy stuff next week now.

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Speaker 2: Most I can't imagine that you'll have much fantasy changes

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Speaker 2: this weekend, as the final weekend of preseason football hits.

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Speaker 2: It's the third game and nobody plays except Russell Wilson

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Speaker 2: for reasons that I it almost makes you wonder, folks,

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Speaker 2: what's going on in Pittsburgh. Russell Wilson is going to

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Speaker 2: play in preseason week three? He was I don't know

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Speaker 2: if anointed the starters fair, but he was told like,

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Speaker 2: it's your job, not maybe not to lose, but you're

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Speaker 2: you have the inside track whatever the phrasing was that

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Speaker 2: Tomlin had used after they added Fields, and then it's

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Speaker 2: kind of been one of those summers where it's like,

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Speaker 2: what do we have in Russ? And maybe Fields is

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Speaker 2: and the doors open for Fields. But he was kind

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Speaker 2: Looked like there hadn't been a ton of improvement on

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Speaker 2: the justin Fields front. But if that's the case and

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Speaker 2: Russ is the starter, why is he playing in preseason

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Speaker 2: week three? Does he feel like he has something to prove?

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Speaker 2: Does Tomlin want to see more? Remember Tomlin was unhappy

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Speaker 2: with the offense after last weekend, with both quarterbacks unhappy totally.

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Speaker 2: I almost think he opened up by saying, like the

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Speaker 2: and so it kind of makes you wonder like, is

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Speaker 2: there a quarterback controversy or they haven't named the starter?

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Speaker 2: Now the Patriots haven't named the starter. I there may

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Speaker 2: be one other team or maybe that's it. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: but it's funny. Deshaun Jackson was on the Herd yesterday

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Speaker 2: and he thinks the move is to roll with Fields,

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Speaker 2: and his logic was, let's say you start Russ and

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Speaker 2: he doesn't cook. Okay, he's okay, but you decide I'm

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Speaker 2: transitioning to fields. You can't then go back to Russ

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Speaker 2: later because that would just be way too awkward. You've

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Speaker 2: What's the point of going to Russ when fields could

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Speaker 2: be the future? We know Russ is not the future

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Speaker 2: shouldn't he get the starting job? And if he flops,

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Speaker 2: oh well and you're back to the drawing board, or

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Speaker 2: you go to Russ and then you draft. You're trying

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Speaker 2: draft on a quarterback. Either way. But something didn't totally

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Speaker 2: add up, Rob, I don't have any data here about

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Speaker 2: final preseason games, and I know they recently shrunk the

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Speaker 2: Thought I thought it was sorted out and Russ was

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And you know what's interesting is I mean, Thursday

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Speaker 3: Across two preseason games, Justin Fields sixteen for twenty three

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Speaker 3: Actually he's probably throwing it better than he ever has,

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Speaker 3: Through week seventeen last year before players got rested. In

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Speaker 3: an unbelievable talent. He is a physical specimen. If this

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Speaker 3: He's quick, he's fast, he's elusive. But when it comes

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Speaker 3: I think maybe this is where Deshaun Jackson has a point.

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Speaker 3: Justin Fields is who he is. He is gonna give

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Speaker 2: It's weird. I think this is an easy question, Rob,

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Speaker 2: Why isn't Justin Fields a better quarterback? I mean, you

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Speaker 2: just laid it out. But if those are his issues,

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Speaker 2: feels I think I'll never forget. Awesome college player, just

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Speaker 2: an incredible college resume at Ohio State, and then he

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Speaker 2: I was like, that is just such an indictment. That

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Speaker 2: He's just a big guy, like, oh man, that's a

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Speaker 2: You can only play that well. He hasn't had the

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Speaker 2: You can only do that for so long before it's like, Eh,

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Speaker 2: he's not the guy.

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Speaker 2: Are you of the belief that he's like, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: a coach away from a coach slash system of becoming

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Speaker 3: I think he either. I think it's system, not the coach,

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Speaker 3: because to a much lesser extent, they had the same

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Speaker 3: concerns about Lamar Jackson coming out of college that you know,

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Speaker 3: if everything is not geared around his specific skill set,

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Speaker 3: we don't know if he can play quarterback in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: That's why I think Bill Polling say put in my

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Speaker 3: wide receiver Anthony Richardson for all of his abilities physically

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Speaker 3: was not a great quote unquote traditional quarterback in college

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Speaker 3: in the traditional sense of the word. What Baltimore did

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Speaker 3: for Lamar Jackson is they built their entire roster. Forget

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Speaker 3: the offense. The roster was built around his talents. We're

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Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson now in the Colts, the way Shane Steichen

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Speaker 3: he did with Jalen Hurts, but it's geared specifically to

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Speaker 3: quite honestly, to the talents of your quarterback, and absolutely

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Speaker 3: he can have success. But to your point, in Chicago,

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Speaker 3: they didn't do that at all. And Arthur Smith I

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Speaker 3: about the skill set of Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson at

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Speaker 3: this stage of his career is nothing close to the

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Speaker 3: physical talent that Justin fields and vice versa. They're totally

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Speaker 3: opposite quarterbacks at this stage in their careers. So unless

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Speaker 3: take the bumps and bruises, watch the games where he's

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Speaker 3: you know, eleven for twenty seven, but he has seventy

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Speaker 3: deal with that. I don't think teams nowadays are willing

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a difficult one because I at this

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Speaker 2: Now you could also make that argue, Hey, why didn't

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Speaker 2: Zach Wilson work? Well, you know, Zach Wilson had a

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Speaker 2: the basic shit dump it in the flat, quick out pattern,

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Speaker 2: like he just couldn't do that, you know, it just

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Speaker 2: and so now he's second or third in Denver? I

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, look at this guy, strapping individual, is fast, strong,

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Speaker 2: What can't he do complete an eight yard out pattern?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 2: Like that's it's weird that whole draft class, either even

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Speaker 2: you have to explore trading TJ? What's what's more? What

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Speaker 2: what is more replaceable? Finding a superstar defensive end or

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Speaker 3: Oh more replaceable the defensive end.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So again I like what, I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: to it a shocker. I don't know if Rob even

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Speaker 2: don't know. Again, I'm thinking out loud, your borrow would

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Speaker 2: shouldn't everything be on the table if you're real smart?

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, and this might sound like a

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Speaker 3: If you're a smart organization, now obviously you're gonna need

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Speaker 2: but if you can't build around have been, they sure

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Speaker 2: as hell will try. Maybe you say where do you

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Speaker 2: want to? They're still gonna build a mis statue you

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Speaker 2: but like the idea to me of you know, scrubbing

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Speaker 2: Warriors from ig. You know, this is a guy who

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Speaker 2: hung out with Lebron in Paris all summer, okay, all summer,

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Speaker 2: and now he's going to the Lebron bag of tricks

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Speaker 2: of social media. Oh it's nothing, but it's maybe something.

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Speaker 2: Remember Lebron's been doing this for I don't know of

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Speaker 2: a decade, but certainly close. It's using social media to

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Speaker 2: send messages to coaches, front office, other players. And I'm

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Speaker 2: not saying he's going to Lakers or anything. I don't

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Speaker 2: think you leave the Warriors to go to Charlotte, you

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Speaker 2: know where your dad played, unless at that point you

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Speaker 2: know Cooper Flag's emerging. You know whatever. I'm just saying,

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Speaker 2: is there a world rob where you can see him saying, guys,

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Speaker 2: we had it, we had a good run, but you

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Speaker 2: know it's over, and no hard feelings. This is not

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Speaker 2: Michael Jordan going to the Wizards. This is not Patrick

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Speaker 2: Ewing with the Sonics, This is not a Elijah one with

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Speaker 2: the Raptors. This is all NBA guard Steph Curry. Okay, so, Rob,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what your appetite is for a story

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Speaker 2: like this, but you know, Curry's my guy, so I

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Speaker 2: had to bring it up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Could I see it happening?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Do I want it to happen?

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Speaker 2: No? Do you mean?

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Speaker 3: And that's coming from someone who just on Wednesday was

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Speaker 3: driving around town in Los Angeles listening to local sports

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Speaker 3: talk radio and they did what had to have been

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Speaker 3: at least twenty five to thirty minutes on the idea

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Speaker 3: of Steph Curry getting traded to the Lakers, because according

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Speaker 3: to them, at least on that Instagram post that you

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Speaker 3: alluded to, you know, you can collaborate with people like oh,

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Speaker 3: so and so invited you to be a color Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Pagnan apparently it's a dual post with him and Lebron

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Speaker 3: that they collaborated together on it. Oh, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's true, because again I don't

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Speaker 3: follow Steph Curry my gram like that, but that's what

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Speaker 3: they said, you know, and so urry honestly and follow

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Speaker 3: a lot of people, you better find out I do.

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Speaker 3: That's all I know about all your shirtless vacation picks.

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Speaker 3: But as far as Steph Curry goes, and I think

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Speaker 3: I said this before in the podcast, even if it's

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Speaker 3: to the Lakers, as a Laker fan, sure I would

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Speaker 3: love to have Steph Curry, Stephan Lebron would be dynamite,

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Speaker 3: you know, just the two of them. We saw that

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Speaker 3: on the Olympics in a small sample, that their games

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Speaker 3: just complement each other. And if somehow they able to

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Speaker 3: keep Anthony Davis like championship of course, but as a

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Speaker 3: basketball fan and someone who works in sports as for

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Speaker 3: a living, I still believe that there is value to

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Speaker 3: be had in guys representing their team and their market

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Speaker 3: for their entire career. Lebron, James Homie hopping from Cleveland

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Speaker 3: and Miami to Cleveland to la is something that as

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Speaker 3: like a sports fan, it just it doesn't sit right

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Speaker 3: with me, you know a little bit, unless the team

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Speaker 3: is so you know, unwilling or unable to build a

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Speaker 3: team around you. There should be no reason why you can.

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Speaker 3: If you're as good as everyone thinks that you are

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Speaker 3: can't elevate your city and your team to a certain level.

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Speaker 2: Remember hold up, Remember Lebron was in Cleveland first tour

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Speaker 2: of duty. He gave them many years. He took up

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Speaker 2: to the finals, gave him years to annie up. The

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Speaker 2: best they could do was Antoine Jamison and Aging Shack

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Speaker 2: and then he said peace, I'm out deuces.

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Speaker 3: Sure, and I don't want to go down this rabbit

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Speaker 3: hole because we don't have time for it. But in

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Speaker 3: that situation with Cleveland at the time, that's when we

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Speaker 3: learned that Lebron the GM was not a good GM

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Speaker 3: because he was just like, yes, get me players, Atoon,

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Speaker 3: Damson can do this, get me and on Jameson Shack

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Speaker 3: can do this. I'm gonna sign off on this deal.

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Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah. You know, he tried to get

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Speaker 3: Michael Red, Michael I didn't want to go to Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: He tried to get Chris Boss. Chris Boss, you want

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Speaker 3: to come to Cleveland. So he had things working against him.

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Speaker 3: But it wasn't like Cleveland didn't try. Like they did

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Speaker 3: everything in their power. They made some bad moves, but

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Speaker 3: they tried to be to build a contender. Steph Curry

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Speaker 3: and Golden State last I checked, were known as the

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Speaker 3: light years Ahead franchise that they've done and spent and

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Speaker 3: did everything in their power to ensure that they could

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Speaker 3: build a champion championship team around Steph Curry. They were

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Speaker 3: the most expensive team in NBA history for like three

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Speaker 3: years running until last year's Phoenix Sun squad. So it's

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Speaker 3: not like they weren't trying to be good. It's not like,

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Speaker 3: you know, they made a series of poor decisions that

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Speaker 3: derailed their team. They just got old, and that happens.

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Speaker 3: So for Steph Curry, I know that we want to

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Speaker 3: see him back in championship contention and realistically is not

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Speaker 3: gonna have it right now in Golden State. But I

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Speaker 3: would love to see Steph Curry finish his career with

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Speaker 3: Golden State. I would love for him to be known

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Speaker 3: as the ultimate Warrior. Derk Noovinsky in Dallas, Kobe in

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Speaker 3: Los Angeles. You know, like, I think that there's still

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Speaker 3: some value in that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I mean, I get where you're coming from.

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Speaker 2: I just think that stuff's over. I just want to

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Speaker 2: say Curry thrive and flourish and win a lot of

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Speaker 2: games and be dominant, and he's just not able to

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Speaker 2: do that in Golden State when he's surrounded by d

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Speaker 2: Anthony Melton and this Podzilesky fellow. Anyways, it's a it's

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Speaker 2: a weekend. It's a freaking weekend.

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Speaker 1: Baby.

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Speaker 2: I'm about to have me some fun, all right, Robby,

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Speaker 2: be safe, everybody enjoy. We're back Monday. Talk to you then,