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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 1: You want to be happy for a day? Edo state

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Speaker 1: is that?

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Speaker 1: And no, Dan and Tie, good news, he's back.

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Speaker 2: Dan Rubinstein, welcome back to the show. My friend. We

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Speaker 2: missed you on Saturday night Sunday morning. How are you,

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Speaker 1: I'm good. I missed you too. I was so impressed

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Speaker 1: that's that's a rare occurrence for this show. You seem

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Speaker 1: I watched some football on Saturday, but I had wedding

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Speaker 1: why we know why it happened, but where are we

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Speaker 2: get to that. It is a pleasure, as always to

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Speaker 2: a fan of the show. But alas Dan, we should

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Speaker 2: start at the very top. The coaching co The roar

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Speaker 2: Well, the biggest loser in this outside of Brian Kelly,

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Speaker 1: Right right now, I was just gonna say he wears

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Speaker 2: Course, No, no, no, of course. But in terms of

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Speaker 2: It was clear that he understood the expectations within the

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Speaker 1: This is why I say fifteen million dollars. Seventeen million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Throw five million, whatever it takes, whatever it takes to

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Speaker 1: I think he's got it's so good right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, who's going to be that name? That you're

435
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Speaker 1: just like, oh, Casey Hewett, okay, right, that you're just

436
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Speaker 1: like Penn State hire Casey Cut Okay, somebody's going to

437
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Speaker 1: be out of complete nowhere. And oh Penn State hired

438
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Speaker 1: Tom O'Brien. All right, bring it back, Bill O'Brien.

439
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Speaker 2: It's not going so hot at Boston College anyway.

440
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Speaker 1: Arm.

441
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Speaker 2: We will do our part here to keep you up speed.

442
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Speaker 2: Of course, we welcome your feedback cliverbal at gmail dot com,

443
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 2: Dan before we get to the polls, before we get

444
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Speaker 2: to hour of our baller top twelve projected college football

445
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,439
Speaker 2: playoff bracket, which I translated and put together for all

446
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Speaker 2: you all, We've got a little game here that I

447
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 2: believe we're going to call snapchat. Is that right?

448
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: Snapchat? That's what I have down here. It's a name

449
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: we invented, I believe.

450
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Speaker 2: Sure, Yes, never heard that word before in my life.

451
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Speaker 1: So what we're going to be doing is we're going

452
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Speaker 1: to be taking a week nine not opinion, but like

453
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Speaker 1: a snapshot of a week nine performance or team. I

454
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Speaker 1: think we have a sound here somewhere here, right, that's

455
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Speaker 1: a polaroid. Yeah, nice little snapshot.

456
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Speaker 2: You can just give it one more time, maybe pump

457
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Speaker 2: up the volume a little bit.

458
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Speaker 1: Okay, here it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Did you have a Goloyd camera long time ago?

461
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

462
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great. Shake it. I don't think shaking does anything.

463
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 1: I think it just sort of reveals itself, no matter

464
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Speaker 1: how vigorously it's shaken. And I want to take a

465
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Speaker 1: week nine result. We'll start here, Okay, Yeah. Is this

466
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Speaker 1: Kansas State that we have just seen throwing the ball

467
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 1: all over Kansas getting Texas tech? I believe next week

468
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 1: in the little apple, is this now? Who Kansas State is?

469
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Speaker 1: I almost want to say, like using the polaroid thing,

470
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Speaker 1: is this before or after? Okay? After being there a

471
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Speaker 1: completed project? And yes, before they were a little lumpy

472
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Speaker 1: in certain places still struggle to September. Is this an

473
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Speaker 1: after image or are we somewhere in between before, after

474
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Speaker 1: or in between in this Kansas State snapshot with a

475
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 1: devastating pass rush, forcing a ton of mistakes, forcing you know,

476
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: threes threes in out, I don't know, three and outs

477
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: on Kansas and dominating that team in a big rivalry

478
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 1: moment on the road in a caseotic Big twelve. Is

479
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: this an after image for Kansas State?

480
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Speaker 2: Well, you're going to have to explain to me whether

481
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 2: or not it's an after image, before image, during image,

482
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Speaker 2: but I can Here's what I'm.

483
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Speaker 1: Going to say about Kansas after It means like this

484
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 1: is who they are now they've completed their transfer.

485
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Speaker 2: They are Yeah, okay, this is who they are. And

486
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Speaker 2: I will talk a little bit about this when we

487
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Speaker 2: get to projected playoff brackets. By the way, Kansas State

488
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,479
Speaker 2: is not in that bracket. That's not what not as

489
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Speaker 2: a moment, but can affect it, but can affect it

490
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Speaker 2: in a really meaningful way. And to go further, Dan,

491
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Speaker 2: there is a scenario in which Kansas State could still

492
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Speaker 2: end up playing for the Big Twelve title. Oh my god, Okay,

493
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Speaker 2: all right, It is not likely. It would be a

494
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Speaker 2: very hard road. But if Kansas State continues on a

495
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Speaker 2: run there's and get some help, there is a chance

496
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Speaker 2: that they could even play for the title. You know,

497
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Speaker 2: I'm a bit of a Big Twelve slash conference tiebreaker hobbyist.

498
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Speaker 2: I look at these things every week starting in middle

499
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Speaker 2: of October. I've got a whole list of things here

500
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 2: that I'll read through with all four of the power conferences.

501
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 2: But well case State, kse State, to your point, could

502
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 2: absolutely affect things in a really, really big way the

503
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Speaker 2: remainder of the season. And what dawned on me as

504
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 2: I was watching the game that they just they rolled

505
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 2: one up on Kansas I mean, they killed them. I

506
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 2: was starting to think, Okay, this team is now finding itself,

507
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 2: this team is clicking, this team is finding itself. This

508
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 2: could be who they are now. And if that is

509
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Speaker 2: the case, if Kansas State finally lives up to what

510
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 2: I mean I and many others thought they could be

511
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Speaker 2: in the preseason, then that's going to be a very

512
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Speaker 2: serious wrinkle in the Big Twelve, which is frankly wide open.

513
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Speaker 2: I mean not to give away the game too much,

514
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Speaker 2: but I'll say it here I mean, we know about BYU,

515
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Speaker 2: but Texas Tech, Utah, Cincinnati, Houston seven to one of

516
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Speaker 2: firs they are TCU, Kansas State? Or is this smattering

517
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 2: of teams that I think all have a really big

518
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: part to play. Are all going to be very active

519
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 2: with respect to that season ending tiebreaker?

520
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Speaker 1: There will be with an ASU by the way, with

521
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Speaker 1: Arizona State.

522
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Arizona State, I think to a lesser degree, but

523
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: sure we can throw them in there as well. They'll

524
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: erect things though, they will absolutely affect things. So it's

525
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 2: just a wide open conference as ever, and if Kansas

526
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Speaker 2: State goes on a bit of a run, even if

527
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Speaker 2: they don't make it all the way into that you know,

528
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 2: top two conversation, they're absolutely going to affect things. I

529
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Speaker 2: thought they looked damn impressive, and I realized it was

530
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 2: Kansas and Kansas doesn't really play a whole lot of defense.

531
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Speaker 2: But it's not about that with Kansas State this year,

532
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 2: it's not really been great that at all. It has

533
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 2: been about do they look like they know what they're

534
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 2: doing out there? Does it seem like they are organized?

535
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Speaker 2: Can they stay out of their own way? And it

536
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: felt to me like we saw all of that rectify

537
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 2: itself in the rivalry spot of all times. So for me,

538
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Speaker 2: I was damn impressed by what I saw from Kansas State.

539
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Speaker 1: Yeah, if the term mistake prone is not used in

540
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: connection with a Kansas State Saturday, Kansas State's largely gonna

541
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Speaker 1: win games. Like they turned Kansas over I think four times. Yep,

542
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: they were better. Actually, yeah, they were better. I want

543
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: to say on third and fourth down. They put up

544
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: more yardage and they were just it seemed like they

545
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 1: were in Jalen Daniel's face just constantly. The pass rush

546
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: was there. They created confusion and to do so on

547
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: the road. I am hopeful that is it is an

548
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: after image because like you, I am a fan of

549
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: a chaotic November in the Big Twelve and Kansas State,

550
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: even though they have the losses. We are also now

551
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Speaker 1: talking about a TCU team that's inconsistent to BYU team

552
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: that looks incredibly consistent in that they find ways to

553
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: figure out a winning formula as the game goes on.

554
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: And we're now talking about a Texas Tech that should

555
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: have a very very good, if not excellent defense all

556
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Speaker 1: year long, but is down to Mitch Griffiths, Right, Will

557
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: Hammond gets heard was a non contact knee injury in

558
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Speaker 1: the second quarter. I don't know. I don't think I've

559
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: seen anything significant, but maybe I've just missed it. And

560
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: Mitch Griffi has played well right for Texas Tech. That

561
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: was Oklahoma State, but we're down to a third stringer

562
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: at Texas Tech at the moment. We shall see. So, yes,

563
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: it is. You know, Iowa State is not going to

564
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: be competing Lard doesn't look like they are built to

565
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: compete for anything big. At the moment, it's gonna be great.

566
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Speaker 1: Cannot wait. Happy that Kansas State is going to have

567
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: a say in what happens.

568
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. By the way, will Hammond done for the year

569
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Speaker 2: with the torn Aco.

570
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Speaker 1: He has done? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's a huge bomber because again we saw

572
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Speaker 2: him on the road of Utah and what he did

573
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 2: in that affair. Suddenly the Baron Morton health question becomes

574
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Speaker 2: much more important. Yep, much more important.

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Speaker 1: So what else you Baron Morton quote ready to go

576
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: for critical big twelve stretch as a fifteen.

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Speaker 2: That's good?

578
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Speaker 1: That good? Okay, I hope it lasts. What's next? Snapshot Vanderbilt?

579
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Speaker 1: Snapshot Vanderbilt. Now they get a win over Miszoo. That

580
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: was crazy impressive, largely because of the defense, it seems.

581
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: I watched a good chunk of this game. They got

582
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: key stops and Miszoo turned. It was Matt Zohler's the

583
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: backup quarterback when bo Berbula went down. He's likely done

584
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: for the year. I think they saw outside chance later,

585
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Speaker 1: which is not a term I love. So I feel

586
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: pretty terrible for Mzoo fans in that team because bo

587
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: Burbula was a hell of a spark Bandy's now their

588
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: highest rength they've been since nineteen thirty something seven at

589
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: number nine. This is who Vanderbilt is? You believe now

590
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: at this point, because I know you've said in that

591
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: show that I always love Vanderbilt. I'm mister Danderbilt. Do

592
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: you believe at this point that Vanderbilt is who they

593
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: are now showing themselves to be.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think they have shown themselves as the

595
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 2: same team all year.

596
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Speaker 1: Agree, But they're more tested now having faced Sue now Maszoo.

597
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 2: They're more tested, but they're not really anything different than

598
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 2: they've been. Okay, what I found was most interesting about

599
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: this Miszoo game, and I mentioned this on Saturday Night

600
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: Vanderbilt's entire formula. And you guys have heard me say

601
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: this isa zillion times over now, so this is nothing new.

602
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: It's based on controlling the ball. It's based on efficiency,

603
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: limiting opposing drives, making the opponent, forcing yourself to be

604
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: more efficient, but more importantly, forcing your opponent to be

605
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: efficient if they want to win. Yes, they didn't do

606
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: any of that against Miszoo. They lost the time of

607
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 2: possession pretty handily. They weren't that efficient when they had

608
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: the football. This was a game, for all intents and

609
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: purposes that sort of broke their little mold and they

610
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 2: had to figure out a way to get it done.

611
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: This is obviously a close game, seventeen to ten mm HM.

612
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 2: The fact that they find a way to win this

613
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 2: game against a good team, albeit without bopabula for most

614
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 2: of the game with mad Zolars coming in, but it

615
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 2: was still a very losable game. Mazoo played okay with

616
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 2: mad zolers. I just think the way that Vandy found

617
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 2: a way to get this one done speaks volumes about

618
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: there being more to this team than just that very

619
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 2: specific formula I have talked about. Because every team faces

620
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: this and more often than not, It's what's what defines

621
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 2: a team as you go through a season. It's not

622
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: about the things we know, it's about the stuff we don't.

623
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: How do you react to a new situation, to a

624
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: new wrinkle. We saw that this week with Vanderbilt. It

625
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,479
Speaker 2: might not have been the sexiest game. It might not

626
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: be the biggest name that the biggest game that we

627
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: talk about in the headlines, because there were a bunch

628
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 2: of other big ones, and obviously the BK news and

629
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: all this stuff kind of grew up around it, and

630
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 2: we didn't talk a whole lot about vanday Mazoo. But

631
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: I just thought the way that they won was impressive.

632
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 2: I think this is a fully formed team at this

633
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 2: point now.

634
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: And able to compete for the conference.

635
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 2: I think so.

636
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: I think so too.

637
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: I think so. I mean, that's just where we're at

638
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: in the SEC.

639
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: The SEC Tennessee game, the SEC is.

640
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: Kind of wide open. It's kind of wide open kind

641
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 2: and I'll get to that too. But the game this

642
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 2: week on the road at Texas is damn interesting for

643
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 2: reasons maybe that I can outline a little bit later on.

644
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 2: Got Auburn at home, got Kentucky at home, got Tennessee

645
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 2: on the road to close out the year, maybe the

646
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 2: biggest Vandy Tennessee game ever. Frankly, with what might be

647
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 2: on the line here for Vanderbilt, I think they're good

648
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 2: enough to beat those four teams. And they beat all

649
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 2: those four teams, and yeah, we're you know, the conversation

650
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 2: here is can Vandy get into and can Vandy play

651
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: for the SEC title? If not that, if you win out,

652
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 2: if you win those four games, you go eleven to

653
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: one in the SEC vand he's in the playoff.

654
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yes, they're in the playoff, right they are?

655
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: Can I give you another snapshot the Pitt Panthers? Okay, Pitt,

656
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: is that the point where thank you for.

657
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 2: Giving me this opportunity?

658
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: Please, You're welcome, of course. So they lose a terrible

659
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: game at West Virginia, chaotic game against West Virginia, and

660
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: a close game to Louisville at home. Since that game,

661
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: they've beaten Florida State, destroyed Boston College, comfortably beat Syracuse,

662
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: and pretty comfortably beat NC State, who did score on them,

663
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: but Pitt scored fifty plus. And we should also mention

664
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: they had a quarterback change that has you know, sort

665
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 1: of paid significant dividends. So the Pitt Panthers, are they

666
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: transformed enough from there before? Picture taken in the middle

667
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: of the backyard brawl against West Virginia with Mason Heinschel,

668
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: if I pronounced that correctly, who has been nothing short

669
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: of legitimately good as a freshman given the context that

670
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: he is, you know, the relative reality. You know that

671
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: he is a freshman. He's been good. He's been a

672
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: really good acc quarterback since taking over on the road

673
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: at home, you name it. Are you a believer that

674
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:59,439
Speaker 1: this current pit snapshot reeling off these wins is an

675
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: accurate one? This is their after image. They are going

676
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: to threaten a very difficult stretch to finish out the year.

677
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: And what's Georgia Tech, Miami and Notre Dame.

678
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah.

679
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: Are you a believer in what we're seeing being the

680
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: real Pit?

681
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: I am. I am not necessarily a believer in them

682
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 2: ripping off a four to zero finish to this season

683
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 2: because of what they've got left, right, They do get

684
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 2: Notre Dame at home, which in the past has definitely

685
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 2: been one of those games that gives me heartburn.

686
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: Not an amazing home field advantage.

687
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 2: Not an amazing home field advantage, but alas there's a

688
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 2: little bit of baggage with a game like that. Are

689
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 2: they good enough right now in their present state to

690
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 2: knock off a Georgia Tech or Miami? I would say yeah,

691
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: I don't think both, but I think they're good enough

692
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: to be one of the two. Because the ACC also

693
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 2: feels like it's in a great deal of fox. If

694
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: Pitt is going to be a team now that can

695
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 2: throw for four hundred yards a game with this quarterback,

696
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 2: as they did this past week against and State, that

697
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: suddenly changes things. What I don't like about Pitt is

698
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 2: that they're not really running the ball that effectively right.

699
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: You know, the numbers so far this year, with what

700
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 2: they've done on the ground, have not been right. There

701
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: are dimensional tea, yeah, anywhere close to what I expected.

702
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 2: And so I think you know, outside of Stanford who

703
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 2: they play this week, of those remaining three teams, Notre Dame,

704
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech, Miami, all three are good enough to beat

705
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 2: a one dimensional team. But if you're that good enough

706
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 2: on offense through the air, there's always a chance. And

707
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: Mason Heischel has obviously found something here that patn Ardousey

708
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 2: thinks they can use to their dantage. He's played really,

709
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 2: really well. So am I buying Pitt right now as

710
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: like the fully evolved version of its former self? I

711
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 2: would say, yes, Am I buying Pitt as a legitimate

712
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: ACC contender, which is still a possibility if they went out. No,

713
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 2: I'm not buying that yet, but I think it's at

714
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 2: least a conversation, Like I don't fully believe it, even

715
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 2: though I really believed in Pitt at the start of

716
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 2: the year, I don't fully believe it that they can

717
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: go on this run and that they can get themselves

718
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 2: back in this thing. But if nothing more, the changes

719
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 2: that they have made mid stream to this offense have

720
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 2: been incredible, you know, having the goal to bench Eli Holstein,

721
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: who everybody was really high on through most of the

722
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 2: first half year. Yeah, yeah, and even you know the

723
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 2: beginning part of this year. The fact that they made

724
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: the move when they did, he has given this whole

725
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 2: team new life. Mason Heichel. So I'm in on Pit.

726
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 2: Not as high on Pitt obviously as I was at

727
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: the start of the year, but as the stands right now,

728
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 2: they're only four and one in the ACC. You know,

729
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 2: there's a bunch of one loss teams in there, all

730
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 2: of which are very much in this conversation. So why

731
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 2: not Pitt. Why not? Now we'll see what they can do.

732
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: I'm totally in on Pitt as an ACC threat, like

733
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: the best of recent pit I think Pitt is that

734
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: once again, you're right about this schedule they do have.

735
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: So they have Georgia Tech a week before Tech has Georgia,

736
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: and they have Miami for its second consecutive road game.

737
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: I want to say, after Syracuse, it's like Miami traveling

738
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: up to Syracuse, back home, then back to Pittsburgh, which

739
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: doesn't seem great in terms of a travel schedule. And

740
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: I think Miami is largely roaded to finish out November.

741
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: I think three of their five games are on the

742
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: road to finish things out. And Notre Dame. I don't

743
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: think is sandwich by anything, but that won't affect their ACC,

744
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: you know, standing the Notre Dame game either way, I

745
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: think Pitt is absolutely. You watch what they're able to

746
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: do on defense. They stop the run, they do a

747
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: decent job pressuring the passer, and they're moving the ball

748
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: with a quarterback who is still feeling out the college game,

749
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: and so it almost feels like Mason Heinschel's potential is

750
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: you know, unknown at this moment because he is so young.

751
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: So it's an exciting time I think to be a

752
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: Pitt fan. Hopefully they reward their fans for sticking with

753
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 1: them after last year's debacle of a finish, losing whatever

754
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: six or seven in a row.

755
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 2: I mean, we got a long email last week talking

756
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 2: about Pitt oh good and how this sort of new

757
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 2: energy has transformed the fan base, transformed the team. How

758
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 2: it is definitely to your point given hope. So I'm

759
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 2: all for that, and I'm just it's a really tough

760
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 2: stretch to close out this season. They're definitely going to

761
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 2: need to grow up very quickly. Young Mason Heinschel is

762
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 2: going to have his work cutout for him going up

763
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 2: against the likes of Notre Dame and Georgia Tech in Miami.

764
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:39,479
Speaker 2: But if through some miracle of the universe, Pitt would

765
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: go three to zero against the remaining ACC schedule, which

766
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 2: is stand for Georgia Tech in Miami, Pitt would be

767
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 2: in this thing. Pitt would probably be playing for the

768
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 2: a SEC title.

769
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a team that nobody ever talks

770
00:39:54,320 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: about Okay, nobody, nobody. The Texas Longhorns. Yeah, the Texas

771
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: Longhorns are I'm gonna say impressive in that they were

772
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: able to come back against Mississippi State. I saw that

773
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: they were down ten seventeen points late in this game,

774
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: and I was like, psh, Texas does it again. I

775
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: thought they were I thought thought they were totally cooked. Yeah,

776
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: watched the game after the fact, came away extremely impressed

777
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: that this Texas team didn't go into that that Dark

778
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: Knight alone whatever. I totally screwed up my analogy here,

779
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: my reference, but they did not go easily into that

780
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: something night.

781
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 2: I don't know.

782
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: The pass rush was insane.

783
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: Seven sacks game, seven sacks of Blake shit.

784
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: They overwhelmed. And I really loved Blake Shape's performance in

785
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: that game, like he played confidently. He went into that

786
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: the teeth of that Texas defense. He felt empowered, and

787
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: the Texas defense turned it up. They turned up the heat,

788
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: and they absolutely won that game for Texas. I love

789
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: that they were getting the ball to Ryan Wingo in space.

790
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: He is mister screen. They might not have all that

791
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: confidence in Arch Manning throwing the ball downfield, and he's

792
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: now hurt. I don't know to what extent. I don't

793
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: know if more news has come out since you know,

794
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 1: Matthew Caldwell won that game in overtime For the Horns,

795
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: They've only lost once in the SEC, as you mentioned,

796
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: a wide open SEC. They're in the thick of this

797
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: SEC race with as disappointing as this offense has been

798
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: this year. So my question to you is this Texas

799
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: team a team with a growth opportunity or should we

800
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: accept this current snapshot? You know, they are a team

801
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: that has talent, can do fun things, but ultimately need

802
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: overtime to beat Mississippi State. They've already lost to one

803
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: team that fired their coach in Florida. Is this one

804
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: of those teams that just is who they are? And

805
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: hopefully we get a good week from them and they

806
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: can compete, But there's nothing you can count on about

807
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: this team week to week.

808
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 2: Okay, So you want to hear my crazy theory. I'm ready.

809
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 2: This is going to be one of those things that

810
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 2: I say aloud and I can't believe him saying it aloud,

811
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 2: but it's definitely something that has been rattling around in

812
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: the deep dark corners of my mind. With respect to

813
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 2: Texas and especially now on the heels of what could

814
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 2: be or could not be rumors about Steve Sarksian longer

815
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 2: term as the coach. Arch Manning had a pretty good

816
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: statistical game here, and I thought there were definite moments

817
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 2: throughout the course of this one where he showed some

818
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 2: actual growth. Okay, close to three hundred and fifty yards

819
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 2: passing three touchdowns, had the one interception, but by a

820
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 2: large a pretty good game for Arch before he got hurt.

821
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 2: I think Arch Manning has a concussion. I'm not a

822
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 2: medical professional. He took quite a lick on the back

823
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: of his head. Yeah, seemed woozy walking off. Needed the

824
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 2: help of some people to just stay in a straight line.

825
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: It looked like it looked like his head sort of

826
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: bounced off the turf. Unfortunately, he took a shot, and

827
00:42:58,880 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: I hope he's all right.

828
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 2: But Matthew Caldwell came in through a really nice pass

829
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: back corner of the end zone to win that one

830
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 2: in overtime. There have been other instances this year when

831
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 2: Matthew Caldwell has come in. I remember saying to you,

832
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 2: it's like he seems like he's got a decent command

833
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 2: of things. He's been really been around college football forever.

834
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: I think this is like his fourth team. But Matthew

835
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: Caldwell in relief efforts so far has been halfway decent.

836
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 2: Definitely is a different throwing motion that just to me

837
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,919
Speaker 2: feels a little bit better on the eyes. But that's

838
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 2: neither here nor there. My crazy theory is that Steve

839
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 2: Sarkusian is actually testing the NFL waters because he knows

840
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 2: he can't go somewhere else in college. He's already at Texas. Well.

841
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: It's not a crazy theory. It was reported by Diana

842
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: Roussini of The Athletic.

843
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, if he wants to go somewhere, the NFL will

844
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 2: be the spot. And my theory as to why he

845
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 2: wants to go somewhere else, in addition to the fact

846
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 2: that college football is just constantly crazy, is the fact

847
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: that he knows arch Manning it's not the guy, and

848
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,919
Speaker 2: rather than stick around at Texas and have to deal

849
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 2: with the fallout and answering a million questions about that,

850
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 2: it's better to just take his talents to a different

851
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 2: team in a different league where he doesn't have to

852
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 2: worry about answering those questions. It's an easy out. It's

853
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 2: the easiest escape patch to get out from.

854
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 1: Underwab all to just not answer arch questions.

855
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 2: That's my theory. That's a say. I prefaced it by

856
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 2: saying it was a crazy theory.

857
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think your theory is crazy. I

858
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: think your theory. I would twist it a little bit

859
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: to say, how many coaches have we seen tie their

860
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: careers and their job securities to the wrong quarterback?

861
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 2: Right?

862
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: And so if he were to leave and really do

863
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: everything he can to pursue an NFL job, he is

864
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 1: cutting that off.

865
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 2: I mean, can you ben charge Manning, buddy, this is

866
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 2: a whole other conversation. Can you ben charch Manning and listen?

867
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 2: Arch Manning looked better? Okay, arch Manning.

868
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 1: Looks he ben ben charch Manning? Yes, can Steve Sark

869
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: he bench arch Manning.

870
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 2: I don't know. Arch look good in this game. But

871
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: Arch is I think gonna be out all right? If

872
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 2: you had a concussion, he's probably out for this week's game.

873
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 2: I'm not a head doc, what do I know? But

874
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 2: plenty of other people get a concussion. You're not back

875
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: a week later. You're just not right. So if Matthew

876
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 2: Caldwell comes in. If Matthew Caldwell looks half decent instantly,

877
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 2: you're going to see comparisons to whatever Arch has done

878
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 2: so far this season. And if they end up winning

879
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 2: this game against Vanderbilt this week, which by the way,

880
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 2: they're favored. Mm hmm, it brings up some interesting questions.

881
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: Steve Sarkisian is going to be receiving all of them,

882
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: and I just think bigger picture again, crazy theory is that,

883
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not that crazy. Rather than hitch his

884
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 2: college wagon to Arch manning whatever follows next season, it's

885
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 2: better to just get out now, go while you're sitting

886
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 2: still pretty high, and then you don't got to deal

887
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 2: with it anybody.

888
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: Any of these coaches who have gotten a taste of

889
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: being a relatively successful head coach or coordinator in the

890
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 1: NFL and our back coaching at college either have realized

891
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: that they much prefer the lifestyle of the NFL. Right

892
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 1: that you're just like, man, I can just sort of

893
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: worry about football. Somebody else's drafting and I'm just you know,

894
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 1: worrying about getting my guys ready and game planning whatever,

895
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: or just have a sick preference like we do a

896
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: sick preference for the the rhythms and realities of college football.

897
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,720
Speaker 2: I mean, the Giant should hire Steve Circusian like get

898
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 2: in terms of like putting him next to a young

899
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 2: quarterback neet that needs to be developed. I still like

900
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 2: the idea of Steve Sarkisian, but on some level you

901
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 2: got to have the talent at the quarterback position in

902
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 2: order to do that.

903
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's currently in a reality of having

904
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: an extremely promising young quarterback who he did not successfully

905
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: develop into a clearly successful college quarterback.

906
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 2: That's right.

907
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: So against some high level competition, some not so high level.

908
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: So what is Texas now?

909
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 2: Though to the broader question, Texas I think still has

910
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 2: a pretty damn good defense. Had seven sacks in this game,

911
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: even though they gave up a bunch of points. Yes,

912
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 2: but I think this was real growth from Texas because

913
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 2: they looked like they were cooked, and they scored twenty

914
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 2: four or fourth quarter points to come back, get this

915
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 2: one to overtime and then win.

916
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: I think you're right.

917
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 2: This is the type of never say die version of

918
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: Texas that I needed to see to feel better about

919
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 2: what they can do the rest of the way, It's

920
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: still a bit of an uphill climb, but tough schedule whatever.

921
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 2: They're a three to one SEC team right now. I've

922
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 2: only got one loss in the SEC, so they very

923
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 2: much in this conversation, they just got to keep plodding forward.

924
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 2: They still don't really run the ball, which is why

925
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: the quarterback position is more under the microscope, separate from

926
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 2: the fact that there's a Manning playing quarterback. But all

927
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 2: things being equal, I think I like where they're at

928
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 2: and I feel like this is a pretty good snapshot

929
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 2: for what they could be.

930
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: I think this week is a good story. I think

931
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: the season remains a bit of a failure, that this

932
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: is not a Texas team built to struggle with Mississippi

933
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,919
Speaker 1: State or this version of Florida with what they brought

934
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 1: back on defense, and I know they're beat up more

935
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: and more. They have failed to put together a consistent

936
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: offensive line, they failed to put together a running game,

937
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: and they while Arch Manning definitely has moments, that has

938
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: been a developmental failure to me, third year guy. So

939
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: if they had come back to tie that game and

940
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: send it to overtime and lost, I don't think the

941
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: tenor of our conversation is all that different. Like you

942
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: can say good for them for pulling it out and

943
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: for Matthew Caldwell, But I think the big win is

944
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: that just that they came back. So good for them

945
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: that they won. I just don't think it changes the

946
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: outlook of what they can be and what they're ceiling is.

947
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: They're just two inconsistent drive to drive.

948
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 2: I think that's fair. Give me one more more snap

949
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 2: chat snap thought here.

950
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: I'll play the sound again just for you. Oh please,

951
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: the Oregon Ducks. I should be asking you, So the

952
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: Oregon Ducks. I watched this game?

953
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 2: Hold on, Yes, what's going on with Dantemoor? I don't know, man,

954
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 2: what happened to the broken his nose or something? He

955
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 2: got a big old Wisconsin pot of the face on

956
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 2: it whacked in the face. I thought he broke his nose.

957
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 2: The highlights I saw were of him like holding a

958
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 2: towel or something over his nose. But then he was

959
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 2: just on the sidelines. Yes, so is have they said

960
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 2: anything about whether or not he's good to go? Or

961
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 2: is this just sort of limbo because he didn't look

962
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 2: like he was in any kind of distress on the sidelines.

963
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 2: Maybe they just kept him out, Like, where are you

964
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 2: at with this? What's going on?

965
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,479
Speaker 1: Okay? So Oregon wins the game twenty one to seven.

966
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 1: He gets hurt when it's seven to nothing against a

967
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: Wisconsin team I don't think has scored two touchdowns two

968
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: offensive touchdowns against a power conference team this season. So

969
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: he goes out. He's replaced by a walk on quarterback.

970
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 1: Up seven to nothing against a good Wisconsin a pretty

971
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,760
Speaker 1: good Wisconsin defense, and a completely absent Wisconsin offense. Dante

972
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: mor gets hit, is bleeding from the nose, is on

973
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 1: the sideline, not really receiving treatment, and doesn't come back

974
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: in the game. Dan Lanning says if it were an emergency,

975
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: he could have He's great to go, that he will

976
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: be fine. They have a bye week this week and

977
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: then Iowa in Iowa City, it looks like it's a

978
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:30,959
Speaker 1: big noon game. I don't know if that's official yet.

979
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: In a couple weeks in Iowa City, Oregon has struggled

980
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: on offense against the decent to good teams that they've

981
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: played this year. They struggled closing out drives on the

982
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: road against Penn State. They struggled on offense. I think

983
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: they scored one offensive touchdown against Indiana, and they scored

984
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:54,240
Speaker 1: a touchdown before the half against Wisconsin. Now it's raining,

985
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 1: it's windy, whatever football teams are dealing with it. There's

986
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: bad weather all over the country. And they were putting

987
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: up huge numbers and did so against Rutgers the week

988
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,760
Speaker 1: before against average to blow average teams and have struggled

989
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: on offense against the better teams on their schedule. I

990
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: just think this is who they are. I don't think

991
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: this is dramatically fixable this season. Now. The defense is

992
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: that they have left are not incredible. They have Washington's defense,

993
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: they have USC's defense, excuse me, and Iowa's defense has

994
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: been incredible. So after that Iowa game, you know Minnesota's

995
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: up and down Washington, USC Iowa is going to be

996
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: a huge test. I don't feel good about it at

997
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: all at all. As an Oregon fan. I think if

998
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: they finish this season ten to two with where they've

999
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: been this year, I think that's a success. They currently

1000
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 1: have one loss to Indiana. I don't think their offense

1001
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: is built to adjust on the fly. I don't think

1002
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: they have the consistent offensive line play. I think their

1003
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: skill talent is incredible. I think the defense is largely incredible.

1004
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 1: I do not think this is an Oregon team that

1005
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,240
Speaker 1: is a legitimate national title contender.

1006
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 2: Right now, they're saying that, you think the version of

1007
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 2: Oregon we saw against Wisconsin is the version of Oregon

1008
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 2: that maybe to some extent, we've seen all year and

1009
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 2: that will see the rest of the way.

1010
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: Well, Look, if Dante mor gets comfortable early on in

1011
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: a game, I don't know what the analog here is.

1012
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: Ty Like if you walked into a party and the

1013
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: solid wife Kate came up to you and said, three

1014
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: girls just asked me, who's that guy? He's way more

1015
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: handsome and charming than everybody else here, you'd probably have

1016
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: a great party internally, right Dante Moore has a little

1017
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: bit of that to him. If he's completing a couple

1018
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: of great passes early, he's one of the best quarterbacks

1019
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: in the country. If he struggles in his first three

1020
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: or four drives, Oregon's in for a slog. And so

1021
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a will Stein thing. I

1022
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: don't know if it's a line thing. I don't know

1023
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: if it's a adjustment thing. But I think Oregon is

1024
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: legitimately good, but I don't think they have the consistency

1025
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: to be great. So they look like a playoff team

1026
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 1: to me. But I don't see them as a real

1027
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:01,919
Speaker 1: threat to anybody excellent right.

1028
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 2: Now, the Iowa game in two weeks should be interesting.

1029
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: I don't know what that If there's an early line

1030
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: or anything on that game.

1031
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 2: The projected margin is about seven in favor of Oregon.

1032
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's the line, but that would

1033
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 2: be the projected final score by about seven.

1034
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: Right now, i was favored by a point and a

1035
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: half according to the Vegas Insiders aggregation. It went up

1036
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: to two and two and a Sorry, it opened up

1037
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 1: minus one and a half and immediately swung to Oregon

1038
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 1: minus one and a half. Two.

1039
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 2: I would not favor Iowa in that game, but I

1040
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 2: understand the body clock. Yeah, I understand the thought behind it,

1041
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 2: and I do think Iowa was getting there. Speaking of snapshots,

1042
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 2: I mean they've just now fully committed to running the

1043
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 2: ball yep. And even this past weekend we saw Mark

1044
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 2: Ronowski throw it a little bit more effectively against Minnesota

1045
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 2: and that beat down.

1046
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: Did he have his first big ten touchdown pass?

1047
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 2: I believe he did touchdown pass yet.

1048
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1049
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 2: Uh, I'm I'm very curious to see what the rest

1050
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 2: of the way looks like for Oregon because I was

1051
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 2: looking at the schedule earlier and you know, the Iowa

1052
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 2: game in two weeks. They're off this week, but the

1053
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 2: Iowa game next weekend and week eleven should be interesting.

1054
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 2: It's on the road. They come back home against Minnesota.

1055
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 2: But the one that I'm really curious about is a

1056
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 2: USC game on the twenty second in I guess week thirteen,

1057
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 2: because USC's got the offense. And this is not to

1058
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 2: say that they've got so many kind of great defense,

1059
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 2: but I think to your point, if they're able to

1060
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 2: get Dante more, if he's playing by then out of rhythm,

1061
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 2: there's a chance in a game like this where you

1062
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 2: can fall behind pretty early against the Trojans and what

1063
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 2: they can do on offense.

1064
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,280
Speaker 1: Let me stop you right there. The game's not happening

1065
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 1: in the coliseum, I know, right, I know, Okay, it's

1066
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: in Austin. Don't worry about it. Okay, don't worry about it.

1067
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: Especially I just said I think it's yeah.

1068
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 2: And they close out the year on the road at Washington,

1069
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 2: which who knows Washington. I don't know, Washington seemed to

1070
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 2: find something this past weekend.

1071
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 1: Also better at home. To be clear, Yep, if I'm

1072
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: going to say that about Oregon against USC who's bad

1073
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: on the road, Washington's bad on the road, much better

1074
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: at home, and that game is in Seattle.

1075
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, we shall see right in stolid reblot jamil dot com.

1076
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 2: Let it's not your thoughts on all these teams. If

1077
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 2: you've got any other snapshots that you'd like to speak to, yes, email,

1078
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 2: social media, any of the usual channels will do. We

1079
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 2: read everything. We can't respond everything, but we do see it.

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Speaker 2: We do appreciate you interacting. Would encourage you to do

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Speaker 2: more of it. If you are ever so inclined, of course,

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00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 2: please leave a star rating or review. All that stuff

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00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 2: helps you that more people do that. As of late,

1084
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,479
Speaker 2: it just assures other folks out there looking for college

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Speaker 2: football content that were not a bunch of wackos. We

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Speaker 2: are a bunch of wackos. We are the show is

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Speaker 2: still fun, so you know, just want people to know that.

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Speaker 2: To close things out here today, and we usually do this.

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Speaker 2: Earlier in the episode, I wanted to talk a little

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Speaker 2: bit about some of the latest polling.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I also want to talk briefly about next week.

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Speaker 1: This is our look ahead episode, but I want to

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00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,720
Speaker 1: talk polling and then I want to look to next week.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely so here is where the polls stand right now.

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00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 2: No big shakeups in the top ten. Damn correct Miami

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Speaker 2: and BYU they are tied for number ten, which is interesting,

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Speaker 2: but otherwise not a whole lot going on in the

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Speaker 2: top ten. You had a handful of teams that jumped

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Speaker 2: up three or four spots. Tennessee, Louisville, Cincinnati, Michigan, Houston

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Speaker 2: went from unranked to rank because again they're like seven

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Speaker 2: to one now, so they got to be ranked. They're

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Speaker 2: in a power conference, They've been playing pretty well, had

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Speaker 2: a nice win.

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Speaker 1: They played very well against They did ASU, a beat

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Speaker 1: up ASU for sure. By the way, not to pat

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Speaker 1: myself on the back here, Ty, we both picked it.

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Speaker 1: Not only did we pick it, but we took what

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Speaker 1: did we what did I end up calling it like

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00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,399
Speaker 1: our little like the deeper looks that we took into

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Speaker 1: a few teams last week on our preview episode. I

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Speaker 1: mean I did wake Forest, Houston and Vanderbilt. Yeah, pretty good,

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Speaker 1: not bad, not bad.

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Speaker 2: Continue among the teams that dropped obviously Oklahoma they lost,

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Speaker 2: they dropped down to number eighteen. Miszoo they dropped down.

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Speaker 2: In nineteen we had LSU, ASU, Illinois, and USF all

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Speaker 2: drop out of the top twenty five. That's the AP

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Speaker 2: Top twenty five. Yes, in terms of the Newville Baller pole,

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Speaker 2: not a whole lot of movement at the very top.

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Speaker 2: Looks very similar to what you would see on the

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Speaker 2: AP polling side. I think where this gets really interesting, though,

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Speaker 2: is when we try to translate it into a college

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00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 2: football playoff bracket, which is what I did. So there

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Speaker 2: are a couple quirks to consider before I go through this. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I did take the for Baller top twelve. I did

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Speaker 2: use that seating and some assumptions that we can make

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Speaker 2: from that pole to put this bracket together. But I

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Speaker 2: do need to outline some of the quirks that could

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Speaker 2: throw everything into chaos. Okay, I alluded to some of

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Speaker 2: this earlier. I have been going pedal to the metal

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Speaker 2: on some of these tiebreaker scenarios and they're not Okay.

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Speaker 2: These are crazy, man, These are crazy. And I feel

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Speaker 2: like I say that every year with the Big twelve,

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Speaker 2: and that's true. But we've got quirks in all four conferences,

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Speaker 2: to a much less degree in the Big Ten, but

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Speaker 2: certainly in the Big twelve. There's the possibility for BYU,

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Speaker 2: Texas Tech, Utah, Cincinnati, Houston, TCU, Kansas State in Arizona

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Speaker 2: State to all go on some kind of run and

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Speaker 2: some combination of those seven or eighteen whatever it is

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Speaker 2: to end playing for the title.

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Speaker 1: TC once again, say those once, let's go through them individually.

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Speaker 1: Continue Texas Tech so quarterback issues health wise, but seems

1142
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Speaker 1: like they're hopefully in a good place, but still a question.

1143
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Speaker 1: Continue EYU freshman first year recent transfer finding ways to

1144
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Speaker 1: win after going down and doing so in crazy impressive

1145
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Speaker 1: fashion though just lost their star running back. We'll see

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Speaker 1: for what time. Utah did not just absolutely demolish Colorado,

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00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: they killed, just spanked them back and forth was lim

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Speaker 1: from wim without their starting quarterback?

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Speaker 2: Right starting quarterback?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Continue Cincinnati so sort of out of nowhere

1151
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Speaker 1: after an up and down twenty twenty four have been

1152
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Speaker 1: all offense this year. Just beat Baylor, who have been

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Speaker 1: close in all of these games, in a not close

1154
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Speaker 1: way by three touchdow right, that's right, so good amount

1155
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Speaker 1: of momentum with Cincinnati, though I think their schedule gets trickier. Houston, Houston, Uh,

1156
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Speaker 1: nothing but success story this year. It's a tough end

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Speaker 1: to the season. It's a tough end to their season.

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Speaker 1: But the Connor Wigman and Tanner Cozial addition has paid

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Speaker 1: huge dividends. And how do you not just like bow

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Speaker 1: with the altar of Willie Fritz at this point of

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Speaker 1: what he can do in the program and to be

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Speaker 1: a name in conversations for these some of these jobs

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Speaker 1: he should be.

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Speaker 2: And then three teams that have been relatively uneven but

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Speaker 2: all have a ton of upside TCU, Kansas State, and

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Speaker 2: Arizona State.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, ASU will see I mean what Sam Levitt left

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Speaker 1: that game for a little while, I want to say

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Speaker 1: against Houston, but came back as an absolute warrior. But

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Speaker 1: they have health issues on both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 1: It seems like they could beat anybody in this conference

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Speaker 1: because they beat the team that we have considered to

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Speaker 1: be the class of the conference so far in Texas Tech.

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Speaker 1: Now it looks like BYU, but ASU has the ability

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Speaker 1: to dramatically alter things at the very least.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about k State, TCU, I mean TCU

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Speaker 2: is sort of uneven as well, doesn't play a whole

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Speaker 2: lot of defense, obviously still plays offense. But you got

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Speaker 2: a whole grouping of teams that are going to be

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Speaker 2: playing for potentially the conference, maybe a playoff birth or two.

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Speaker 1: TCU finishes with Iowa State BYU on the road, Houston

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Speaker 1: on the road, Cincinnati. Yeah, Holy moly, So maybe that

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Speaker 1: is your Yes, ad JR.

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Speaker 2: Big Twelve influencers, at a minimum.

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Speaker 1: They're gumpy. They are absolutely gumpy right now. They are

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Speaker 1: going to be near and dear to this race no

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Speaker 1: matter what.

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Speaker 2: In the ACC, you've got a realistic possibility for Virginia

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Speaker 2: Duke Louisville SMU. And that's in addition to Georgia Tech

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Speaker 2: in Miami, who everybody knows about. And I will throw

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Speaker 2: a pit in there, not because I think it's probable,

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Speaker 2: but because I think it's possible.

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Speaker 1: And we've they're in the conversation. They have to be

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Speaker 1: in the conversation.

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Speaker 2: We've come to know that whatever is possible in the

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Speaker 2: ACC or in the Big Twelve is something that we

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Speaker 2: need to get out ahead of. Because the AA happened

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Speaker 2: a year ago. So we talked about PITT but you know,

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Speaker 2: as Virginia for real. They've been playing a bunch of

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Speaker 2: close games. They've been winning close games.

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Speaker 1: They have Chandler Morris's health I think up in the air.

1202
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Speaker 2: Yep.

1203
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Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, Duke.

1204
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Speaker 2: You know, Duke is just sort of slow and steady.

1205
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Speaker 2: But Duke has had a really good campaign. I still

1206
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Speaker 2: don't really know what to make of Louisville. They obviously

1207
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 2: had that huge win. It stands to reason that Louisville

1208
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 2: could have a real shot at this thing. SMU would

1209
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Speaker 2: probably need some help, but is still in the conversation.

1210
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Speaker 1: Georgia Tech and host Miami, right, SMU host Miami.

1211
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Speaker 2: They host Miami this week. They're a ten point home dog.

1212
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Speaker 2: We can talk about that one on Thursday. Georgia Tech

1213
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 2: is the highest ranked of all these teams, still undefeated.

1214
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 2: Miami is still a top ten adjacent team. I guess

1215
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:02,959
Speaker 2: tied tenth in the latest APEP Pole, So clearly they've

1216
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 2: got a lot to play for. But Miami, by virtue

1217
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 2: of the tiebreakers that I have seen, would need a

1218
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 2: little bit of help to shoulder their way into the

1219
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 2: acc title game. So there's a lot of possibility and

1220
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 2: weird potential with the ACCU.

1221
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 1: By the way, you didn't mention wake Forest, who just

1222
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 1: beat SMU, should have beaten Georgia Tack, I know, and

1223
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 1: finishes with a crazy maybe other than that Duke game

1224
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 1: to finish things out. That's a winnable final five. Florida

1225
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 1: State on the road, Virginia on the road. You know,

1226
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 1: Virginia has been playing down and close to everybody North Carolina,

1227
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 1: Delaware and Duke if wake Forest continues to look very real,

1228
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 1: especially on defense. Who wants a piece of the Deeks

1229
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 1: this last month? Who wants o body? Who wants a

1230
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: piece of the Deeks? Yeah?

1231
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 2: Wake Forest. I don't think is part of this conversation.

1232
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 2: But Wake Forest, let's put it this way, at a minimum,

1233
01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 2: given what we have seen thus far from Jake Dicker,

1234
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 2: we talked in the preseason about to what end can

1235
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 2: they translate vibes into success on the field. Yeah, they're

1236
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 2: tough out man. I stand by what we've been seeing there.

1237
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 2: Paying the freaking ass buddy.

1238
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 1: They so. Bill Connolly's metric and sp plus. The likeliest

1239
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 1: decider of games, statistically is the ability to generate and

1240
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: stop explosive plays. Wake Forest has been excellent at both

1241
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 1: this year, which is why you're seeing the results or

1242
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:28,439
Speaker 1: near results with Jake Dickard and wake in year one,

1243
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 1: if they get a quarterback, if they get themselves a

1244
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 1: quarterback somehow, some way, if there is some billionaire behind

1245
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 1: the scenes who just loves himself some wake Forest football.

1246
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if my other want to.

1247
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 2: Outline the wake Forest possibility, because there is a possibility,

1248
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,919
Speaker 2: there is a pass. The way that wake Forest could

1249
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 2: find their way into the ACC title game is a

1250
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 2: by winning out, all right, and that would require win

1251
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 2: over Florida State. As you mentioned, they'd have to beat

1252
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 2: Virginia I believe the Virginia games on the road.

1253
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 1: You know who beats Florida State literally evident the FC

1254
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 1: team they play, they would need to be unc which

1255
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 1: is definitely winnable. Yeah.

1256
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 2: They would also need to win out against Duke I

1257
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 2: believe on the road in their final game.

1258
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: Tough.

1259
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, very tough stretch. If they were to win those

1260
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 2: games though, those four games and Pitt knocks off Miami

1261
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 2: final week of the year, that would be the path

1262
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 2: to get wake Forest into that ACC title game, probably

1263
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 2: against Georgia Tech, so to.

1264
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 1: Be a rematch wake Forest Georgia tack in the a

1265
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 1: SEC Championship game. I'm not the type of person that

1266
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 1: looks at that and says, oh my gosh, the TV

1267
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 1: ratings Georgia Tech Wake. First of all, they've already faced

1268
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 1: each other. I believe in an a SEC championship game.

1269
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 1: I want to say, Chan gaily Era, Georgia Tech.

1270
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 2: That's deep cut.

1271
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 1: Sure, I want to say they have. Maybe I got

1272
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 1: that wrong, but.

1273
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 2: That a Jim Grobe Wake Forest.

1274
01:05:55,880 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: I want to say, yes, Georgia Tech Wake ACC championship game.

1275
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: The year was two thousand and six.

1276
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 2: Two thousand and six.

1277
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 1: Nine to six, final score beautiful. Maybe Reggie Ball prominently involved.

1278
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 1: Who was to say anyway? Anyway, My other sidebar with

1279
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 1: the ACC is I saw the quote about Kirk herbs

1280
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: Street and Adidas uniforms. I don't know if you saw that.

1281
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 1: Kirkhurb Street just hates Adidas uniforms, Okay. He was just like,

1282
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 1: you put on a Dienas uniform, you just look subpar.

1283
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 1: And I thought to myself, Yeah, I'm not a fan

1284
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 1: of Adidas uniforms in general, but I think that's a

1285
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 1: little bit harsh. They've had some decent looks occasionally here

1286
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 1: and there. I'm you know, I'm an Oregon person, I'm

1287
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 1: a Nike person, whatever, but I don't feel strongly about it.

1288
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 1: And then I saw what Miami wore against him.

1289
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 2: I couldn't even watch the game. I couldn't watch it.

1290
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 2: It hurt my eyes.

1291
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 1: And I said to myself, yeah, these are garbage.

1292
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 2: Those are horrible. They were horrible uniform.

1293
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 1: It was baby spinach poop. I guess I know you're

1294
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 1: not great with shades. That's as close as I could approximate.

1295
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 1: It was disastrous in a way that I didn't think

1296
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 1: anybody could do in any sort of design application. It

1297
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 1: was horrendous from Miami. Kate came downstairs as I was

1298
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 1: watching that game. I had it on one of the

1299
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 1: quad boxes for a minute.

1300
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's like, WHOA, What's what's going on with that?

1301
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 2: Something wrong with the TV's that? No, something's wrong.

1302
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 1: With the It was like they were wearing a muddy field.

1303
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 2: It was bad. It was really bad. And you know,

1304
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 2: me with colors, man, I was you even messaged me,

1305
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 2: how are you? How are you getting on with this

1306
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 2: Miami games? Like, I'm just not watching it.

1307
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 1: Yeah you can't.

1308
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 2: I'm glad it ended up being a blowout just from

1309
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 2: the standpoint of me not having to go back and

1310
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 2: watch that because that was a brutal watch for these eyes.

1311
01:07:56,360 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 1: All Right, your next division scenario, conference, whatever other.

1312
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 2: Ones here, I'll knock out the Big Ten real quick.

1313
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 1: Okay.

1314
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 2: The only real possibility for Quirks is if Michigan beats

1315
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 2: Ohio State. If Michigan doesn't beat Ohio State, it's going

1316
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 2: to be Ohio State against Indiana.

1317
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: What happens in Michigan beats Ohio State.

1318
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 2: If Michigan beats Ohio State, that potentially opens up the

1319
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 2: door for your Oregon Ducks. Okay, if they go on

1320
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 2: a run, YEP, or USC if us he goes on

1321
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 2: a run, or Iowa. If the Iowahawkeyes pull off like

1322
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:31,720
Speaker 2: three upsets, I mean they've got a tough stretch here

1323
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 2: to close out their seasoned as well. Yes, but if

1324
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 2: the Iowahawke guys were to go on a bit of

1325
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 2: a run, and if in addition to that, Michigan were

1326
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 2: to beat Ohio State, those are the teams I'm looking

1327
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 2: at that would have a real possibility for presumably playing

1328
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 2: Indiana for the Big Ten title. I am not expecting that, Okay, Okay,

1329
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:52,879
Speaker 2: I am just giving people an outline of what is possible,

1330
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 2: the art of the possible here on the.

1331
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 1: Sliverbal Thank you, by the way, just to close the loop,

1332
01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 1: do not go gentle into that. Good night, Dylan Thomas.

1333
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 1: It's a poem. Okay. Continue.

1334
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 2: And then on the SEC side, we've got quirks that

1335
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 2: I think are mostly limited to the five teams that

1336
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about in this projected bracket. Okay,

1337
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 2: those being Texas, A and M Alabama, Georgia, Ole, Miss

1338
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 2: and Vandy. Some combination of those teams right now appear

1339
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 2: to be the ones that have the inside track for

1340
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 2: the SEC title game, obviously Texas, though you mentioned Texas earlier,

1341
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:33,799
Speaker 2: I will mention Texas again now there is a scenario

1342
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 2: that gets Texas into the playoff, maybe into the SEC

1343
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 2: title game if they went out, but they have to

1344
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 2: win out and it is not an easy stretch for

1345
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 2: the Longhorns. Those are the six teams though, that I

1346
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 2: am mostly looking at in the SEC. Some combination of

1347
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 2: them play for the title, some combination of them, more

1348
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 2: of them than not get into the final playoff field

1349
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:56,759
Speaker 2: is what I'm looking at right now.

1350
01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:59,639
Speaker 1: Right Okay, I like that.

1351
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:01,679
Speaker 2: So how does this translate, Dan.

1352
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 1: How does it translate to a top twelve? Oh, on

1353
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:04,799
Speaker 1: the screen.

1354
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 2: I've got the bracket up on the screen for those

1355
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 2: who watch in the video. The way that this shakes

1356
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,839
Speaker 2: out again would be Ohio State as the one, Indiana

1357
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 2: as the two. This year, we'd have A and M

1358
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 2: as the three, in Alabama as the four. Those will

1359
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 2: be your first round byes. Remember there's a straight seating

1360
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,440
Speaker 2: straight seats this year, So if you win your conference

1361
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 2: but you're outside the top four, you don't get that buy.

1362
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 2: You get in, but you don't get one of those

1363
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 2: first round byes. The way this would set up would

1364
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 2: be All Miss hosting Miami, the eight hosting the nine,

1365
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 2: with the winner playing Ohio State m HM the number

1366
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 2: five Georgia Tech Yellowjackets at home against Navy. I've got

1367
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:48,680
Speaker 2: Navy in here because they were the highest rated presumably

1368
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 2: G six conference champion in arver Baller top twelve. But

1369
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 2: the way that this is shaking out, the way that

1370
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 2: it has looked, at least per rankings, is somebody from

1371
01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 2: the American. It seems like the polls are favoring some

1372
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 2: team from the American, be it Memphis or two Lane or.

1373
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 1: Memphis is currently ranked ahead of Navy in the AP pole.

1374
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we had Navy high in ours. That's why

1375
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 2: I put them there, But the larger point on the

1376
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 2: G six qualifier in this year and again, if some

1377
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 2: of these scenarios go hey wire, you could end up

1378
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 2: having a much different bracket because remember it's twelve teams.

1379
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 2: If you win your conference, if you're one of the

1380
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 2: five highest rated conference champions, you get in. So what

1381
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 2: could end up happening here is we have somebody come

1382
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 2: out of nowhere, much like we saw last year and

1383
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 2: shoulder out a team like you know, Notre Dame, shoulder

1384
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 2: out a team like U Vanderbilt. I don't know, it's possible.

1385
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,639
Speaker 2: Navy is the one that we had sneaking their way

1386
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,759
Speaker 2: in knocking a team like Notre Dame out. In effect,

1387
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 2: now Navy plays Notre Dame.

1388
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,799
Speaker 1: They're probably gonna say they can do that on the field. Yeah.

1389
01:11:54,960 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 2: I don't feel too nervous about that matchup, but okay, whatever.

1390
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech Texas as well and Memphis Georgia.

1391
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 2: Tech hosting Navy, and like the Paul Johnson Bowl, yes,

1392
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 2: with the winner playing Alabama on the other side of

1393
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 2: the bracket. You would have Vandy on the road in

1394
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 2: Eugene against your Oregon Ducks, the ten versus the seven,

1395
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 2: with the Winter playing Indiana. Potential rematch for Oregon.

1396
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 1: On a neutral site. Yeah.

1397
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 2: And then last, but not least, you would have Georgia

1398
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 2: hosting BYU six' eleven matchup with The winter Playing TEXAS

1399
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 2: a AND.

1400
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 1: M yep with a five to eleven quarterback a six

1401
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 1: to eleven matchup with five to eleven Bear bachmeyer.

1402
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:38,640
Speaker 2: Continue So i'm looking at this AND i think you

1403
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:42,759
Speaker 2: feel really good if You're. ALABAMA i think you feel

1404
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 2: less good if you're a team like In Ohio state

1405
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 2: having to get the winner Of Ole Miss. Miami, YEAH

1406
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 2: i think you're cautiously optimistic if You're, indiana given what

1407
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 2: you just had to say About, oregon AND i think

1408
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 2: the fact that they've got a lot more firepower least

1409
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 2: an offense In, vanderbilt but who they hell. Knows and

1410
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 2: The TEXAS a AND m matchup could be. Interesting as

1411
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 2: you've GOT byu Against, GEORGIA i think most people would

1412
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 2: probably Favor georgia in that. Matchup So GEORGIA a AND

1413
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 2: m on a neutral site would be a pretty big. One,

1414
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 2: huge but, right, now if you're An alabama, fan you

1415
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:20,600
Speaker 2: got to be feeling pretty good about at least this

1416
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 2: projection making your way into the semi, final presumably against

1417
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 2: a team like An Ohio. State, agree that's what it

1418
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 2: looks like right now in terms.

1419
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 1: Of Field top. Twelve, YEAH i would feel great About

1420
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 1: indiana here.

1421
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 2: Too, man you're really really.

1422
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 1: Well i'm not down On oregon in the way that

1423
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 1: it might sound, like, obviously but JUST i don't Know

1424
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 1: indiana getting that buy and getting one of these teams

1425
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 1: on a neutral site with, TIME i don't. Know they

1426
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 1: feel like one of those teams that would perform. Well

1427
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 1: BUT i guess they didn't last year with some time

1428
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 1: to prepare Against Notre. Dame last year's a different, year different, team.

1429
01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:01,719
Speaker 1: FASCINATING i think The navy inclusion is, nice but little

1430
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 1: beyond that with the rest of their.

1431
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 2: Schedule, Listen i'm with. You i'm just GOING.

1432
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 1: I know you're just on the way where worth. Staying right, now.

1433
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 2: We're going snapshot based on The Verballer top twelve. Pole.

1434
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:13,599
Speaker 2: Again you can vote every weekend For ballers Dot com

1435
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 2: if you're signed up as a certified Or premium. Member

1436
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 2: on occasion we throw it out to the masses as.

1437
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 2: Well but that's what it looks like as of. Now

1438
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:24,680
Speaker 2: if you are listening to this on the podcast and

1439
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:26,919
Speaker 2: you want to get a look at this projected, bracket

1440
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 2: go down into the description of the. Podcast i'll post

1441
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 2: a link so that you can click through and find

1442
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 2: The imagency what what we're, thinking and maybe talk it

1443
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:36,680
Speaker 2: through with you and your.

1444
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:42,759
Speaker 1: People by the, Way week, TEN i have no idea

1445
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 1: what to, think but there are two opportunities for the

1446
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 1: funniest possible thing to, happen, okay and that Is Penn

1447
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 1: state Beating Ohio state And florida Beating.

1448
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 2: Georgia this would be the year That Penn state would

1449
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 2: Beat Ohio, state wouldn't.

1450
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 1: It this would be the year now That Penn state

1451
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:03,879
Speaker 1: would Be Ohio. States where this just And James franklin

1452
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 1: emerges from the booth and it was all a. Trick

1453
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 1: it was the whole thing was a.

1454
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 2: Rose, Yeah Terry smith pulls off a mask and it's

1455
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:11,599
Speaker 2: Really James.

1456
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 1: Franklin, yes The Mission impossible Style matt The Mission impost style. Mask,

1457
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 1: otherwise there's a lot of like super interesting games but

1458
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 1: not obvious bangers In week. Ten, right is that a

1459
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 1: fair way to put.

1460
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 2: IT i think a fair way to put it is is, that,

1461
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:32,600
Speaker 2: Yes Texas Tech Kansas, State i'm really looking forward to

1462
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:36,440
Speaker 2: after last. WEEK i think that my window of opportunity

1463
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 2: is going to be at. Night, okay because we have

1464
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 2: so few of these during the college football, season with

1465
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 2: the way that they have scheduled these games in recent,

1466
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 2: years the biggest games are always at. Night this, week

1467
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 2: there are some games that are of interest for sure at.

1468
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 2: Night but unless you've got a rooting interest in any of,

1469
01:15:55,200 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 2: THEM i say make your plans. Now send the text

1470
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 2: message from. Work, hey, honey let's go Out saturday. Night

1471
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 2: let's go to AN ns.

1472
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 1: Restaurant, Wow tyler? Romantic not Watching Oklahoma.

1473
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 2: Tennessee, yeah we don't want to watch.

1474
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 1: That, yeah that was the Bigger mayfield game way back

1475
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 1: when right a huge comeback it? Was it.

1476
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 2: Was but to your, point, right we do have a

1477
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 2: couple interesting. Ones SO i Mentioned vandy And texas right,

1478
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 2: Now texas favored by battlefield. Goal there is The Penn,

1479
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 2: State Ohio, State Ohio states favored by three. Touchdowns of,

1480
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 2: course Yea navy At North texas should be. Interesting mm.

1481
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:38,760
Speaker 2: HMM i BELIEVE i Said Notre dame Plays navy this.

1482
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 2: Week Notre dame Plays boston Copy navy next. Week, Yeah

1483
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:45,799
Speaker 2: miami AT, smu which you mentioned. Earlier duke At, clemson

1484
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 2: which is just interesting for a whole multitude of. Reasons

1485
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 2: and Then Arizona State Iowa state a rematch of The

1486
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 2: Big twelve. Title that's all in the early. Block those

1487
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 2: are some good games for you if you like building. Quads,

1488
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 2: yes after noon, block you've got the Cocktail Party georgia

1489
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 2: seven and a half point five Against. Florida you've Got

1490
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 2: Texas Tech Kansas, State texas seven and a half point

1491
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 2: favorite on the road at K. State and then you've

1492
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 2: Got virginia on the circle.

1493
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:14,640
Speaker 1: ONE i circled. This, Yeah, virginia who plays nothing but

1494
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:18,679
Speaker 1: weird close. Games traveling across the country to play Against

1495
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 1: Cal no stranger to weird close games unless It's San Diego.

1496
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 2: State and then the night games On, Saturday Oklahoma tennessee

1497
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 2: should be a CLOSE i think it'll be a close,

1498
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 2: GAME i. Hope so THE nbc game should also be

1499
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 2: a really good. ONE usc on the road At. NEBRASKA

1500
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 2: usc is six point road. Favorite, actually the game THAT

1501
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:42,679
Speaker 2: i am most excited about is in the late, late late.

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01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 2: Window and if it weren't for the fact that you

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01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 2: AND i are doing the midnight, STREAMS i probably wouldn't

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01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 2: even stay up for this. One But i'm gonna be

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01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 2: fully plugged into what's going on as we're doing our,

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01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 2: thing Because cincinnati At utah looks damon exciting to.

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01:17:56,439 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 1: Me man ten to Fifteen, Easter, yeah that's looking. REAL i,

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01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 1: mean depends On Devin Dame, pierre but, Yeah i'm totally with,

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01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 1: you AND i think we get the first of The

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01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 1: Wazoo Oregon State home and.

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01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 2: Home we get the first of The Wazoo Oregon State

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01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 2: home And. Home. Yeah the REASON i should add that

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01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 2: we did these brackets and talk through projections like this

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01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 2: now is because as you are listening to this On,

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01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 2: tuesday a week from, today is when we're going to

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01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 2: get the first of the six college football playoff. Rankings

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01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 2: so as a bit of an advanced primer for, that

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01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 2: this is what we're thinking as of, now per The

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01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 2: verbowl Or top. Twelve we'll see what they have to, say.

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01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 1: You, know what they're going to say to, themselves what

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01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 1: the internal monologue is going to be before the camera's.

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01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 1: Role all they're going to say is don't say anything

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01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 1: that anybody will be able to use against us in

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01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:53,679
Speaker 1: the coming.

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01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 2: Weeks just be.

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01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:58,839
Speaker 1: Playing Be, vanilla, which by the, way here's another. Sidebar

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01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 1: vanilla is not. Playing vanilla is flavorful as an.

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01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:03,640
Speaker 2: Ingredient i'm with, You i'm so with.

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01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 1: You be. Plane be just extra extra extra cautious because

1530
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 1: as soon as you start flapping your, lips weird stuff

1531
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 1: is going to come out and they're going to use

1532
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:19,719
Speaker 1: it against. Us SO i anticipate a more the most

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01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 1: boring possible explanation of.

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01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 2: Everything let me close out with this because you tiptoed around.

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01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 2: It uh, oh what? Happened what happened with The?

1536
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 1: Uber ALL i do IS i keep leaving things In uber's.

1537
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 2: Time so when we're up In State, college you left

1538
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 2: a beautiful camera in An. Uber thankfully we are able

1539
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 2: to recover it get it sent back to. You so

1540
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 2: this was a lot urn Christ iss. Severted but what

1541
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:46,640
Speaker 2: happened this time.

1542
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 1: We were Taking uber back from lunch to the hotel

1543
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 1: mirrored like the start time of the, wedding AND i

1544
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 1: had brought one of those portable battery packs with. Me

1545
01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 1: and ANYTIME i leave An uber or go. ANYWHERE i

1546
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:02,839
Speaker 1: always check my, pockets, keys, phone and like air pods

1547
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 1: are my other one BECAUSE i do go for walks

1548
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 1: and listen to. Stuff AND i felt my. POCKETS i

1549
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 1: was all, good AND i. LEFT i had the battery pack,

1550
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 1: there which is in the same shape as the phone

1551
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 1: which was on the, seat WHICH i had just put

1552
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 1: down for some. Reason and you have to scramble when

1553
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 1: you leave something in An Uber that's WHAT i, learned

1554
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 1: especially when it's something like a, phone and So i'm.

1555
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:28,640
Speaker 1: SCRAMBLING i go to The uber website on my iPad

1556
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 1: in the hotel room and they're, like, hey we're gonna

1557
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 1: send you a. Text i'm, LIKE i can't see the.

1558
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:34,720
Speaker 1: Text it's on my. Phone it was AN. Sms it

1559
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 1: wasn't anything THAT i could check on my, iPad and

1560
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 1: SO i was. Scrambling and then they asked for a

1561
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:41,599
Speaker 1: credit card. NUMBER i had to find the auto fill

1562
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:44,680
Speaker 1: portion of my. iPad i was. SCRAMBLING i finally got

1563
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 1: ahold of the. Driver he was, like, hey i'll be

1564
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 1: there in a few. Hours i'm, LIKE i can't wait that.

1565
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 1: Long i'm. Addicted and then he was back in like

1566
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 1: an hour and a half and everything was. Fine and

1567
01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 1: gave him a healthy cash tip for his generosity and

1568
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:01,639
Speaker 1: making his way back to the. Hotel but, yeah another

1569
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 1: full blown panic about leaving something in an. Uber i'm

1570
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 1: not great with this, STUFF, Ti i'm just in a

1571
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 1: lot of different areas of my. Life i'm not terribly.

1572
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 1: Bright so here we. Are we were able to get

1573
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:15,639
Speaker 1: through the. Wedding it's a great. Wedding hit the dance floor,

1574
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:19,599
Speaker 1: hard a lot of oh you know this stuff better

1575
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 1: THAN i. Do Pink Pony, Club oh.

1576
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 2: Yeah a little chapel. Rone, yeah that was a chapel

1577
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 2: talking about this stuff better than you told me about.

1578
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:32,920
Speaker 1: It that's. True that was the, song more than Anything Taylor,

1579
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 1: swift more than anything else that was played by this

1580
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 1: band that united the. Generations the kids were screaming Out

1581
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 1: Pink Pony, club WHICH i think is about a strip.

1582
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 2: CLUB i think it, isn't but continue it.

1583
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:47,280
Speaker 1: Isn't it's about a different kind of. Club oh, okay

1584
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 1: it's about is it a kid's club or is it

1585
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:51,679
Speaker 1: more of an adult. Club it's definitely more of an adult.

1586
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 1: Club got, it? Okay but that was the song that

1587
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 1: united the. Generations people were most excited at Sing Pink pony.

1588
01:21:57,800 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 1: Club if that's any sort of indication of where we.

1589
01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 2: ARE i don't. Know great, song love that. Song.

1590
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:07,560
Speaker 1: Okay, otherwise the wedding was, good desserts were, good venue was.

1591
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:11,840
Speaker 1: Great always good to get To San. Diego so congratulations

1592
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:15,560
Speaker 1: to ALION i Fan scott and his beautiful, bride Beautiful.

1593
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:19,840
Speaker 2: Well it is a pleasure to have you. Back it

1594
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 2: is a pleasure again to once again be with the verballer.

1595
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 2: Hood it is a pleasure to have so much to talk.

1596
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 2: About we are not short on any college football. Topics

1597
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 2: it's going to remain this way from now until the

1598
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 2: end of the. Season, OKAY i put a call out last.

1599
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:36,719
Speaker 2: WEEK i will put that call out again now because

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01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 2: we've had a couple people right in about. This BUT

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01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 2: i do still want to do a segment on the

1602
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 2: fan bases that have been the most tortured so far

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01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 2: through twenty twenty. Five, Okay so if you have more,

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Speaker 2: SUGGESTIONS i need more of. Them sliverbo at gmail dot

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01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 2: com right, in let me. Know but we're gonna do

1606
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:55,799
Speaker 2: that segment at some point in one of These tuesday.

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01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 2: Episodes all, right can't wait for that guy over, There

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01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:01,240
Speaker 2: my good Friend Dan rubinstein self Tie. Hildebrand thank, you

1609
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