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Speaker 1: What's up, people, it's your boy, Cam Jay back with

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Speaker 1: another episode of Off the Edge with Cam Jordan. Now

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Speaker 1: as we gear it for another exciting season, I wanted

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Speaker 1: to reflect on some of the incredible guests I had

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Speaker 1: the pleasure of sitting down with last season. But hey,

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Speaker 1: don't worry, though, I got you new episodes coming your

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Speaker 1: way real soon. Relax, I got you. But in the meantime,

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Speaker 1: in between time, let's rewind and play back some of

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Speaker 1: my favorite interviews from season one. This week, I'm bringing

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Speaker 1: you the heart and soul of the Saints defense linebacker extraordinaire,

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Speaker 1: the man on a mission, none other than my guy,

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Speaker 1: linebacker d Mario Davis.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you tapping in this Off the Edge with

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Speaker 2: Cam Jordan.

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Speaker 1: I get to bring to you my guy, my dog,

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Speaker 1: probably probably my ace on the team this year. Like,

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Speaker 1: if I'm gonna talk to somebody, it's gonna be this dude.

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Speaker 1: If I'm gonna need you know, if I need help,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be this guy. And if he needs to

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Speaker 1: come talk to my d line.

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Speaker 2: He can't talk to me.

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Speaker 1: There's an open line of communication with my guy Tomorrow

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Speaker 1: Davis All Pro, five time All Pro tomorrow. Like, let's

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Speaker 1: not be light on that five time All pro only

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Speaker 1: got one pro bo, which is not adding up like

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Speaker 1: the talent in the way that Tomorrow Davis's name holds.

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Speaker 2: In the NFL. Is still only one pro bo so far,

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Speaker 2: maybe two this maybe two this year. But like, for

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Speaker 2: sure he should be.

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Speaker 1: A multiple, multiple time pro bowler. He's a multiple multiple

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Speaker 1: All Pro. Double D appreciates you for tapping in my God, my.

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Speaker 3: God, actually having me all man then is all mine? Man.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's just let's talk about this.

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Speaker 1: You and you keep up to date, like if anybody

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Speaker 1: keeps up to date with the Saints and what's going

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Speaker 1: on in the NFL, it's you like a student of

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Speaker 1: the game, a master of a lot.

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Speaker 2: You know, when we talk about current Evince, you're usually

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Speaker 2: up to par. Since you've heard you've heard the news.

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Speaker 1: We've had some we've had some coaches go, how you

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Speaker 1: feeling like it's all off of the side, But a

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Speaker 4: It's it's it's it's the business. It's the business of

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Speaker 4: the game. You know, it's tough because it's a reminder

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Speaker 4: that we dropped the ball as a whole, Like what

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Speaker 4: you want to happen is to have success, and everybody's

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Speaker 4: getting promoted, which we've seen have success. Other guys go

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Speaker 4: get big time jobs and now they win and playoff games.

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Speaker 3: That's what you want to be. You want to be

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Speaker 4: Guys getting contracts, guys uh, you know, going getting resigned,

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Speaker 4: Guys going to other teams getting getting paid, which has

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Speaker 4: been our experience in the past. But when you have

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Speaker 4: getting it done, and now there's man, it's mandatory that

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Speaker 4: something has to change, and who.

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Speaker 4: Man, it's gonna look different on the roster, from the

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Speaker 4: And it's just a reminder that we dropped the ball

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Speaker 4: as a whole. I mean, at any point when you

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Speaker 4: And and and we're seeing that it's happening. Uh. I

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Speaker 4: And it's unfortunate, you know, like uh, you know, Pete

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Speaker 2: Joel Thomas went to the Giants John Fire, but just

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Speaker 1: Going to like let's let's keep that a b you know,

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Speaker 4: I traditionally keep the same framework, but it's a season

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Speaker 3: So as for me, like I'll keep training.

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Speaker 4: I'll stay doing my recovery regiment all the way through

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Speaker 4: the Super Bowl, like I trained specifically so my body

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Speaker 3: It ain't like I'm in shutdown mode or tired mode.

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Speaker 4: I want to process. My goal is to do forty

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Speaker 3: Like that's a goal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you said you And you said that earlier

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Speaker 2: You're like, I don't know how many more left? And

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Speaker 3: There was a revelation, man, it was a revelation.

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Speaker 4: Man. I've my favorite player in the NBA is Lebron

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Speaker 4: He's still playing at a high level, though they team

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Speaker 4: let's make sure we have clarity there. The Lakers beat

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Speaker 4: But last year he led the league in past break points.

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Speaker 4: Who does that at thirty seven thirty eight years old?

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, man, if he running and jumping with

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Speaker 4: And so I'm like, well, bron probably gonna play two

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Speaker 2: I was like I'm not gonna lie to you.

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Speaker 1: I was been wondering because I said, what so you

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Speaker 2: I love that for you. I'm gonna watch you. I'm

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Speaker 3: Come on, bro, come on out.

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Speaker 1: W I told you this revelation of mine I had

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Speaker 1: Like it's a hard market to excel it in terms of

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Speaker 2: And you've you've done all of that. Like I said,

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Speaker 4: I think it goes back to twenty sixteen me and

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the NFL. Welcome to the NFL. Twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 2: I said, that's how you know it's official when everybody

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, And Uh with the high breed was like,

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Speaker 4: I feel like I can be on the edge all game,

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Speaker 2: But I can hold it. It's just cut on the edge.

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Speaker 2: Not a high bred high breed like going.

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Speaker 4: Built different, yes, sir, different, and like a transformer. I'm transformed.

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Speaker 1: But is there any game that this year that you

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Speaker 4: Like come back and I think that was the Stanford game.

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Speaker 1: I could have swore we found that when we when

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Speaker 1: I said, ah, I said, this is a Bill Belichick

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Speaker 1: But what you're you're a lot more even killed than

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Speaker 2: Everything, and he was like, yeah, so this is what

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Speaker 3: Now I did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when you come to that revelation, it did it

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I had great I had great vets Man.

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Speaker 4: information from. You can learn a lot of things of

439
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 4: what to do. You learn a lot of things and

440
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,440
Speaker 4: what not to do. But everybody was on my team

441
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 4: was at seven eight years and I'm like, dang, they

442
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,199
Speaker 4: the ain't doing it like they passed the threshold.

443
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:27,439
Speaker 3: You know.

444
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 4: It was that fear of man, I just trying to

445
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 4: make it three three and three games. Let me just

446
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 4: get my my pension, you know. But I was able

447
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 4: to pull from them guys, just from recovery, from approach,

448
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 4: you know, just how to how to stay in the game.

449
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 4: And I still rely on a lot of those baseline principles.

450
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 4: But I put my own in. I put my own

451
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 4: work in, you know, I found my own lane. I

452
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 4: found what works for me, and I do a lot

453
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 4: of mental training and I think that's what allows me

454
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 4: to be more reflect them. So all throughout the season,

455
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 4: I'm meeting with our team with our team site, which

456
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,959
Speaker 4: I just called my mental performance coach, and we were

457
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,680
Speaker 4: just talking about the game. We would talk about week

458
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 4: to weeks how to find that consistency. And I was

459
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 4: finding that consistency was in practice. And I just felt

460
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 4: like if I if my routine was working, don't change it.

461
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 4: If it was something that wasn't working, changing and uh,

462
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 4: that's kind of molde. I stayed in and that's why

463
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 4: you seen me even kill. And then when it's game time,

464
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 4: you know, it's all about bringing the warrior out like,

465
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 4: ain't no flinch, ain't no fear. Let's go, and uh,

466
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 4: now it's time to bring everything that you to meditate

467
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,199
Speaker 4: it on out for the public.

468
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 3: Ain't no time to think about it. It's time to go.

469
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 3: And that's what you saw game day.

470
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 2: Yeah you know what I mean.

471
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 1: I come to bring hands every day. That's practice, that's breakfast,

472
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:57,360
Speaker 1: that's lunch, that's better. I lived my life.

473
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's a walkthrough.

474
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 1: And so I'm looking for smoke, looking for smoke. Already

475
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: I go home, look for smoke. I come back, look

476
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 1: for smoke.

477
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna learn. I'm gonna learn how to be even killed.

478
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 2: Won't be like you when I grow up. I'm gonna

479
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 2: learn how to I'm gonna learn how to chill out.

480
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 4: I tell you all the time, bro, I asked you

481
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 4: that all the time, Like, how does it feel to

482
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 4: wake up and be camp Jordan?

483
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 2: Well, I know what I mean.

484
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 1: Now that I got a son who's just like me,

485
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 1: I can see how can be taxing. See take wake

486
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 1: up and wake up earlier than I do. Just okay,

487
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: your sir got your swag all over here?

488
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 2: Bro, did you think about our locker room this year?

489
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 2: Just safe defense? Alone?

490
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 1: We had what three or four veterans over thirty you know,

491
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: our team had what five or six? Was with me

492
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: you Tyron, Derek Carr, what thirty two, Jimmy Graham thirty five,

493
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: thirty six that I feel like.

494
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 2: They had to help.

495
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: But just mixing in the season vets with just that

496
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,439
Speaker 1: that young talent like that had to have helped the

497
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 1: team for sure. Let's just talk about our defensive side,

498
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: like you talk about it. On every level, there's there's

499
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: again you go to the safeties, there's Tyrant Marsham probably

500
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: just what seven eight, he's still young. But there's you

501
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 1: on linebackers, me at D line. So that open line

502
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 1: of communication, Bro, it was has always been there, especially

503
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 1: during the games or practice whatever it was. I feel

504
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: like that's what I'm I'm looking harping on them like

505
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 1: we have open line of communication, how like, how do

506
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: we take that next step?

507
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 2: But in terms of just talking to younger guys.

508
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: Do you find that it's hard to relate to them?

509
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: Do you like when you talk about year one, year

510
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: two type players?

511
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I think, man, it is. The great piece

512
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 4: is like when you have but at all levels. You

513
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 4: got pro bowl at all levels. So when I when

514
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 4: I look at you on the defensive line, like I know,

515
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 4: I don't have to go talk to all the guys

516
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 4: on D line. I can take a mission to you

517
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 4: and it's gonna go to all the guys. The same

518
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 4: thing with Tyron, I don't have to talk.

519
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 3: To the dbs.

520
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 4: I'll just go to him and he will pass it

521
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 4: on whether it's mess for right, ite missed for the game, and.

522
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 3: So having that is great.

523
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 4: I do think that there's a communication gap that just

524
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 4: exists in society because of the way that we learned

525
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 4: how to communicate. I'm a iguesst me and you kind

526
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 4: of the same boat. We're kind of like a middle generation,

527
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 4: and so we got pieces of the old school and

528
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 4: we're dealing with people who are all the way digitals

529
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 4: like dog one of the guys in the locker room.

530
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 4: Wasn't boring when nine eleven happened, like.

531
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Speaker 2: Some of the guys, one of the guys, some of

532
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:51,360
Speaker 2: the guys.

533
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 4: Some of the guys, but we having a conversation about it.

534
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 4: Like he didn't even know what date it was. No,

535
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 4: like it's called not eleven. He was like, no, y, yeah,

536
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 4: I haven't put nobody on the spot. But he was like,

537
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 4: I said, do you know when not eleven happened? He's like, yeah,

538
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 4: it was like November right, No, no, no, no, no, no,

539
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 4: you're trying to fix it.

540
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 3: But it was a real conversation and everybody was like yo.

541
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 4: Wow, And it was one of those moments like man,

542
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 4: we are we're kind of like in a in a

543
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 4: time war.

544
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 3: And but I think.

545
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 4: It's still the onus of the responsibility of figuring out

546
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 4: that that communication.

547
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 3: One of the things that one of my mentors was

548
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 3: helping me learn.

549
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 4: He said, what language was God talking to Adam and

550
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:41,239
Speaker 4: even in the garden. And I was like, yo, and

551
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 4: that everybody has a language because they're human.

552
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 3: And though it may be a digital.

553
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 4: Language, though it may be h you know, more choppy,

554
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 4: more emojis, you know what means that you communicate through

555
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 4: it's still communication, and to figure out that language is

556
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 4: the responsibility of a leader to figure out and you

557
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 4: just learn how to reach guys. And that's what I

558
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 4: was in my reflective time. I'm looking and I'm like,

559
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 4: I don't think I did a good enough job, you know.

560
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 3: And I think it's.

561
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 4: Easier to be dismissive and just be like, oh, they're

562
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 4: a young generation. They'll figure it out or they've.

563
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 2: Got to figure it out now, you know.

564
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 4: But I think it's it's this game has always been

565
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 4: the older guys teach the.

566
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 3: Younger guys what is supposed to look like, right, And

567
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 3: I think it.

568
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: Was so much easier to do that when we were

569
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: younger because you had to be in the meeting rooms.

570
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 1: And now it's a digital age where everybody has iPads,

571
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,719
Speaker 1: you know, Microsoft tablets and can watch film, do everything

572
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 1: else isolated. And I think that isolation is also causing

573
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: a divide as well.

574
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 3: I agree.

575
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 4: That's that's one of the things is socially we communicate different, right,

576
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,959
Speaker 4: Like how we grew up. You go to the playground,

577
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 4: you go to the park, you compete, you go outside.

578
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 4: It's a it's a it's a it's an unnecessary reference.

579
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 4: Football game going on, throw it up and running. You

580
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 4: don't get it how you live, Like when you see

581
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 4: the kids, our kids attempting to do when they play

582
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 4: football after the game, right, but they don't do that

583
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 4: just other than that event, they're not just outside other

584
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 4: after that, they're going to organize sports. Like it was

585
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 4: so much play that was unorganized.

586
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 2: There ain't no neighborhood football no more like I know,

587
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 2: ain't know.

588
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 4: Just pick up basketball game going on them down on

589
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 4: the corner at the park. You know, like everything is

590
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 4: organized right like you go to you go to a

591
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 4: lifetime gym. Now they got they don't move to basketball course,

592
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 4: they got pickleball games going on.

593
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 3: And pick aball has a system. It's a system to

594
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 3: get in the game. Have you ever been to a

595
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 3: pickball game? No, a pick up pick a ball game.

596
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 3: You don't just go and be like I got next.

597
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 2: You gotta go.

598
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 4: You gotta put your racket in a certain spot. That's

599
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 4: how they know. And then they have like pro courts

600
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 4: and then they have like the amateur courts, and it's

601
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 4: like it's a system, bro, Like you can't just show

602
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 4: up at pickleball and just be like I got nixt

603
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 4: like basketball courts, it's all. They've moved the basketball courts

604
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 4: out pickaball is what's heeing and so like. But this

605
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 4: is this is our society now, right, It's it's much

606
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 4: more digital, organized structure versus just random and so like,

607
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 4: what that does is I don't even know how to

608
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 4: communicate with you unless it's under a certain format, right,

609
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 4: I only know how to meet you on this app.

610
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 3: I only know how to meet you in a space

611
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 3: that's organized, like a team meeting is where I'm gonna

612
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 3: see you. And but then no team meeting going on

613
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 3: while we're still at the building.

614
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 4: That's that's a that's a mentality, that's a mindset, right,

615
00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 4: Whereas what four years ago, five years ago, meetings and

616
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 4: meet has been over for four hours, everybody still in

617
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 4: the locker room, some people watching, some people Nintendo, some

618
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 4: people shooting basketball, but we all just building that chemistry.

619
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 3: So it's just different.

620
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 4: And so it's like, Okay, well, how do you reach

621
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 4: this generation that's under kind of a different mindset When

622
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 4: it comes to camaraderie, You still have to find a

623
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 4: way to meet him.

624
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 3: And I think that's that is a struggle.

625
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 4: I haven't haven't found that yet, but it gotta be

626
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 4: sound absolutely bro.

627
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: Like you know, I had two rookie d linemen uh

628
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: this year and one you know, one loves the FaceTime.

629
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: You know my lother Ze, Hey, hey bro. I told

630
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: him when he first got team. I said, hey, if

631
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: you need me FaceTime, if you need like, don't do

632
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: dumb stuff. If you need me in the middle of night, you.

633
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 2: Can call me.

634
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: I'll come get you. I'll figure it out whatever needs

635
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: to happen. He's just hey, Bro, I just want to say, man,

636
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, bro, And like, I have never had

637
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: a rookie to call me in the middle night just

638
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: to just to want to talk ball.

639
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 2: He's the first one. I love. Brian.

640
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, I got you know, I got Isaiah Foski

641
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: and Foscar is you know he's a cerebral notre dame

642
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: guy stuck in his head. You know, I gotta I gotta,

643
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: like it's like pulling blood. But like you have to

644
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: figure out who, like you have to figure out their communication,

645
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: Like Breeze super easy. You know, like he wants to

646
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: be he wants to be a great football player. You know,

647
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: he's absorbing anything. Fosk not saying that he doesn't. He's

648
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,719
Speaker 1: just like you have to go to him, you know, like,

649
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: hey man, come on, this is what we're doing. And

650
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: he'll hop in the car immediately for the But them first,

651
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: like four weeks, I was trying to figure him out.

652
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: I said, hey man, like I got it, Like I don't.

653
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: I'm not getting nothing from him, like, hey man, what

654
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: you see on this film?

655
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? But if I text him about something, I get

656
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: a paragraph.

657
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, this don't make okay, Okay, I'll see what

658
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: I gotta do here, Like you just got It's weird,

659
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: bro to to think that I get digital age, bro

660
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: like this, you know, watch film, see things differently, talk

661
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: to players like.

662
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 2: It's just trying to figure it out. I'm like, oh man,

663
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 2: it's such a huge gap.

664
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, at least in

665
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: terms of defensive line, there's always been different cats on

666
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: the D line. You know, you have one that's outgoing,

667
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: one that's not one this so this is just a

668
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: different way to look at it. And how do I

669
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: reach my guy? Well, if he likes to eat, then

670
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: I guess we're eating. And if he likes you know,

671
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: if he likes if he likes to watch film, then

672
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: that's how we watch film. Like it's it's time consuming,

673
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: it's an effort.

674
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 3: It's a lot more attactical.

675
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 4: And I think you just helped me with something that

676
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 4: communication now is a lot more individualized because society is

677
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 4: much more custom Whereas everybody had before had to conform

678
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 4: to society, now society conforms to the consumer.

679
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 3: Right, think about all the algorithms that present themselves.

680
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 4: It knows how to present itself to you, the shopper,

681
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,239
Speaker 4: versus the customer having to go to the store like

682
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 4: Black Friday, you got it, you got it if you

683
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 4: could get there early enough and.

684
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 3: Get it in.

685
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: Everybody there at five.

686
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 4: Everybody had to conform to the marketplace, not a marketplace.

687
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 4: Marketplace conforms to the consumer. And so I think that's

688
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 4: the same way when you think about like being a

689
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 4: being a teammate, Right, the teammates used to all the

690
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 4: teammates conformed to whatever.

691
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 3: The team was on.

692
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 4: Whatever you have a team, you gotta be able to

693
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 4: conform to all the individuals, right, So you have to

694
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 4: make sure you still hold onto your principles and stuff

695
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 4: that you're not gonna sway on the course.

696
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 3: So it's not just saying like you you just.

697
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 4: Kind of rolling yeah, but I think you have to

698
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 4: be willing to go and meet individuals where they're at,

699
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 4: and you gotta that's just what society is, right if

700
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 4: you just think about like, you know, look at all

701
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 4: the guys who come in. They played in college, and

702
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 4: the college didn't conform to them what they do. Hey,

703
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 4: transporport them.

704
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 2: I'm going transport them.

705
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 3: And they talented enough, they're gonna they're gonna make it in.

706
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 2: It ain't got or yeah, for sure.

707
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 4: And that's not the case for everybody, but for a

708
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 4: lot of them. And so that everybody's just used to

709
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 4: everything being catered to them, and so like I can

710
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 4: see how you dealing.

711
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 3: With different lanes of communication and something that's gonna benefit

712
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 3: some is not.

713
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 4: And I think just being able to communicate a message

714
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 4: to them that this is what the league is about,

715
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 4: this is what it stands on. H I'm conforming to

716
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 4: you because I want to give you the principals that's

717
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 4: gonna get help me be successful. I'm not conforming to

718
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,439
Speaker 4: you to think that it's your way because it's game.

719
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 2: It's not. I'm not acquiescing. I'm not saying, hey, I'm

720
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 2: doing your way.

721
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: No, I'm coming to you so you could take this

722
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: information better, this how, this is how we're moving on.

723
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 2: You might just help me a little bit. I feel

724
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 2: like I'm acquiescing at times.

725
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, Like when I was a rookie old

726
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: event would be like, hey, this is how it's getting done.

727
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: You'd be like all right now, like you know, we're

728
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: talking to them like, hey man, this was, this was,

729
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 1: what is the tradition, this is.

730
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 2: Why we're doing it.

731
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: And I'm having to explain myself more, you know, like

732
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: you know, get home, be trying to tell wife you talk.

733
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: I'm talking out baby, like I'm tied that lead that

734
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: leadership role like it takes it takes something about you.

735
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: But no, you knows as much as you just helped

736
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 1: me there. You know whatever it was, or you've been,

737
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: You've been an outstanding teammate yourself, you know, uh, a

738
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: great leader for the linebacker corps. You you talk about

739
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: the pregame speeches even in locker room when it's time.

740
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 2: You know, uh, you were born.

741
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: You were born for this role as as a man

742
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: of God, and that goes probably hand in hand with

743
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 1: being a leader of faith as well, just in terms

744
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: of you know, uh p ao as well as you're

745
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,439
Speaker 1: not not even your ministry work, but your devoted dream

746
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 1: dreamers and the you know, the I almost called a flag,

747
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: the seven h seventeen that you got, or the way

748
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: you stacked everything up, but just balancing the demands of

749
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: football and your faith.

750
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 2: How does the how do you ultimately want to be remembered?

751
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,720
Speaker 4: And I want to be I want to be remembered

752
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 4: as a man who tried to as best he could

753
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 4: live for something that was greater than himself. Like my

754
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 4: legacy has little to do with me than me trying

755
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 4: to be a representation of God. It's about how my

756
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 4: wife remembers me and is able to tell my story.

757
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 4: And if you haven't seen Hamilton, bro Hamilton is the

758
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,439
Speaker 4: greatest play ever, Like I used to be online king

759
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 4: I graduated. Hamilton is the best. But it's a little

760
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 4: it's a little playing there, a little play on words

761
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 4: in there that I'm saying, you know, how my wife

762
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 4: is able to remember me, how she's able to tell

763
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 4: my story, How my kids the lessons that they get

764
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 4: from me, and everything after that is a secondary really

765
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 4: you know if I can be a good enough representation

766
00:36:59,600 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 4: of God.

767
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: Uh that my.

768
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 3: Kids get it and they want to reflect God in

769
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 3: their own lives. Man, it's worth it. It's worth it all.

770
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 3: It's life well lived.

771
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, you used to talk to you talked about

772
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 2: Hamilton a few times. This year. You went to go

773
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 2: see the person.

774
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,439
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, we went with New York.

775
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 4: My daughter, actually, my my ten year old daughter, oldest,

776
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 4: she was on it, and she she's musically inclined and

777
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 4: musically gifted. She memorized the whole I mean, if you

778
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 4: listen to these songs, they like little rap songs and.

779
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 3: They got so many words.

780
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 4: But she memorized the soundtrack front to back, Like you

781
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 4: start playing out any part, pick any song, she gonna

782
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 4: start singing it.

783
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 2: That's her jam.

784
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 4: And so we had to go see it. So we

785
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 4: went to New York. Not to mention my kids. Was like,

786
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 4: we're back at home and that's where we were born.

787
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 4: My oldest too, and uh, we took them to see

788
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 4: the play. Win saw Hamilton, Win saw Lion King, and

789
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 4: I was just blown away. I had always heard about Hamilton,

790
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 4: but I never went and saw it. But definitely something

791
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 4: that it's as many people talking about Hamilton. It's still

792
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 4: under it, that's how good it is.

793
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 2: Hmm.

794
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I've seen that on one of

795
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: the apps, so it was like a Hamilton Live music whatever,

796
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: and I was like, nah.

797
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 2: Do you see I feel like.

798
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I said, one of the maps had it,

799
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: and I was just like, I just feel like it's

800
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: one of the things you have to see in person.

801
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 2: Like if I watch you know.

802
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 3: Don't don't somebody your statue.

803
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 2: Definitely, man, you know my sisters spayd only last five

804
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 2: to ten.

805
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 3: Yourself watching on the app and then try to go

806
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 3: see the person. Yeah, definitely, man, definitely say you get

807
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 3: a chance to go see the person.

808
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: They just do it a full disservice. I moved so

809
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 2: fast being in.

810
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 3: America and not having a chieved Burder not seeing.

811
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: Him, Okay, big, big standard.

812
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 2: Okay. I'm like I said, next time in New York,

813
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 2: I'm gonna look up a lifetime. Is it still going?

814
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 2: It's probably still going, but yeah.

815
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 1: Like I'm I appreciate you tapping in, bro, I'm gonna

816
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: get you out of here because I know it's getting

817
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: rather late and with all seventy five kids yours.

818
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: Come kidd, I'm kidding. So there you have it. It's

819
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 2: a wrap. I just want to say a huge thank you.

820
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: To all my awesome listeners for rocking with me. I've

821
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: got a whole locker room full of my favorite interviews

822
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: from season.

823
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 2: One coming your way. But before I go, you know

824
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 2: the drill. Come on now.

825
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: Make sure to drop us a five star rating or

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00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,719
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828
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Speaker 1: us on YouTube on the official YouTube page of the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Till next time, I'm out, built, astract and p