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Speaker 1: This this One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome to a Friday. We made it to

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Speaker 2: the end of the week. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you.

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live is the show. Thanks for joining us,

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Speaker 2: and so we have another jam packed show for you today.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into that in just a little bit. But

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Speaker 2: I guess the most important thing is we creep ever

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Speaker 2: closer to the first home game in almost a month.

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Speaker 2: My goodness, it's been a minute. It feels like we

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Speaker 2: haven't been here in three months. It's crazy, like I

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Speaker 2: can't remember it. Like, I mean, I know when it was.

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Speaker 2: It was the Monday night came against Jacksonville, but it

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Speaker 2: seems like eons ago. So it'd be good to get

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Speaker 2: back into I Mark Stadium for a one o'clock game,

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Speaker 2: which makes it even better. And have you seen the forecast? Yes,

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Speaker 2: beauty seventy, it could be seventy on Sunday at kickoff.

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Speaker 1: Chamber of Commerce Chamber of Commerce Day.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's a good day to be on the NFL

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Speaker 2: on CBS. And our good friend Andrew cataland Side. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so it'd be good to catch up with him.

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Speaker 1: I said hello to him and the crew haves.

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Speaker 3: Good because he's got teacher Jason mccordyson, Jason mccordy and

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Speaker 3: Tkey and then then a producer director is Jay McKee

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Speaker 3: is the producer and.

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Speaker 2: Uh not the former Saber, No different, Steve McKee.

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Speaker 1: I'm Steve McKee and it's gonna say it's on a second,

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Speaker 1: I thought he was coaching and yeah, so it fun stuff. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: good group. They're uh the CBS guys. They don't get

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Speaker 1: their scheduled out too far in advantage a couple of

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks they have next weeks and they

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Speaker 1: don't know for sure. They so it's kind of fun

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Speaker 1: ask them where they've been, where they're going, and stuff's

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Speaker 1: here because they see the league a lot. It's it

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Speaker 1: wass a fun job while I did it. Those guys

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Speaker 1: were great. But and for a nice day on Sunday, gosh,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be great. Uh.

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Speaker 2: So to get you ready for Sunday, why don't we

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Speaker 2: pass along the bill's practice updates, which are presented by

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Speaker 2: Lee coom your leak Erie College of Osteopathic Medicine. UH

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Speaker 2: Coach McDermott provided some updates, but first let's get you

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Speaker 2: up to speed. Thursday injury report came out after we

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Speaker 2: were already off the air, and the good news there

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Speaker 2: was both Khalil Shakir and James Cook were full participants,

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Speaker 2: Shakir for this second straight day, Cook for the first

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Speaker 2: time this week, and so those two were trending certainly

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Speaker 2: in the right direction to be available on Sunday. The

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Speaker 2: one that popped up that was of concern, Ray Davis

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Speaker 2: added to the injury report with a calf injury, Coach

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Speaker 2: McDermott explaining this morning on WGR on the Extra Point

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Speaker 2: Show that it had cropped up at the end of

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Speaker 2: last week's game against the Jets and then kind of

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Speaker 2: resurfaced again in practice yesterday, so he was a limited

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Speaker 2: participant and his status for Sunday is somewhat up in

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Speaker 2: the air. We're kind of anticipating he's going to be

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Speaker 2: listed as questionable, so that's kind of where that is.

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Speaker 2: And then with respect to some of the other players

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Speaker 2: on the injury report, coach said today when he addressed

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Speaker 2: the media and probably about an hour ago, that Khalil

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Speaker 2: Shakir and James Cook, along with Ed Oliver are all

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Speaker 2: expected to be available on Sunday. Now, Oliver is only

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Speaker 2: had a limited participant in practice up to today, so

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Speaker 2: we'll see if he has a full participation designation after

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Speaker 2: practice is over today, but good news that he's expected

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Speaker 2: and Cook, who obviously missed last week's game, looks like

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Speaker 2: he'll be back in the lineup as well. One player

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Speaker 2: that was not asked about was dalton Kin Kate, who

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Speaker 2: was a new addition to the injury report with a

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Speaker 2: practice yesterday, but our eyes and ears out at practice

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Speaker 2: today are saying he is back in a regular jersey

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Speaker 2: for practice today, So that's certainly an encouraging sign for

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Speaker 2: dalton Kin Kate's availability for Sunday as well. Those are

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Speaker 2: an injury report that had sixteen players on it. Most

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Speaker 2: I would say, yeah, I would say we covered the

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Speaker 2: ones that we were most concerned about going into the game. Meanwhile, Steve,

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Speaker 2: there are some interesting developments on the Titans injury report

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Speaker 2: that I noted on Twitter earlier today and non participants

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Speaker 2: due for the Bills, non participants in practice Thursday. KeAndre Coburn,

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Speaker 2: expected to play, labeled as week to week with a

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Speaker 1: And then there, Yeah, he was limited Wednesday, but he

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Speaker 2: And then their leading tackler, Ernest Jones, one of their

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Speaker 2: due to illness. So we'll have to see where those

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Speaker 2: go when Tennessee's Friday injury report comes out a little

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Speaker 2: with it being Friday, the OBL Friday Fan Mailbag is

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Speaker 2: Somebody was admonishing me for still calling it Twitter earlier

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Speaker 1: Getting a little snippy overar well social media.

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Speaker 2: I think I'll always remember it as such. Even though

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Speaker 2: is just locked in on Twitter. I don't think I'm

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Speaker 2: kind of the nuts and bolts of what's been going on.

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Speaker 2: We need to go around the NFL a little bit though,

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Speaker 2: because oh, by the way, there was a game last

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Speaker 2: night and around the NFL is presented by Coalida Health,

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Speaker 2: the official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills, And for

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Speaker 2: Sean Payton, it was an enjoyable return to New Orleans,

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Speaker 2: where he had won a Super Bowl as head coach

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Speaker 2: of the Saints, this time coming in as the visiting

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Speaker 2: head coach of the Denver Broncos. Not an impressive performance

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Speaker 2: by bo Nicks by any means, but somehow Someway the

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Speaker 2: Denver Broncos, with a very good defense, route the New

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Speaker 2: Orleans Saints thirty three to ten, And to say the

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Speaker 2: bloom is off the rows, for Dennis Allen would be

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Speaker 2: an understatement. Yeah, all say that, Lord de Lee is

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Speaker 2: not blooming in New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: No, but they got like nine. You think the Bill's

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Speaker 1: injury problems have been bad, New Orleans is it's worse.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and here's the thing. What you lose your

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Speaker 2: And they've lost Chris Olave all the receivers, yeah, Rashid.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so cut. Josh Allen Coleman, Dennis Allen, Dennis Oh,

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen Coleman Shakir Kincaid and who else Cooper? All

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Speaker 1: those guys gone off the bills roster. How good would

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Speaker 1: they do? And that's where the Saints are right now.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I feel bad for the It's been

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Speaker 1: bad here a whole lot of seconds.

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Speaker 2: But lost We played without five starters on defense in

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Speaker 2: Houston and lost. Well yeah, well that's thirty three to ten.

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Speaker 1: Well okay, but still at home lose lost the loss too.

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Speaker 1: But I this is a team that was lighting it up.

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Speaker 1: Remember the first couple of weeks they scored like ninety

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Speaker 2: And they lost another player, one of their starting corners,

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Speaker 2: Paul Sinadebo, who broke his femur. You had to go

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Speaker 2: get surgery, dude. And I want to hear that's like

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Speaker 2: the biggest bone in your body.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's so.

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Speaker 4: That is so.

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Speaker 2: That's gotta be a really hard bone to break.

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Speaker 1: Think about the force it tastes to break your femur.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's an injury. You don't even hear football,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like, that's not even an injury.

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Speaker 1: People don't break their femurs in car accidents, you know,

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Speaker 1: bad car accidents. Yeah, I don't know how you get

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Speaker 2: So they've lost him for the season. I mean that's

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Speaker 1: But that but I felt I just feel like the

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Speaker 1: Dennis has no question. I mean, you said it, Dennis

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Speaker 1: Allen is taking some heat heat for it. But what

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Speaker 1: that's injuries, and you don't have the players you thought

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Speaker 1: put in. Spencer Rattler is struggling a little bit as

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's like one thing after another in New Orleans.

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Speaker 2: Division rival Philly on Sunday. That should be a barn burner.

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Speaker 2: And then the Browns have announced they are moving forward

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Speaker 2: in favor of a dome stadium in the suburbs. I

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Speaker 2: believe the town's called brook Park, if I'm not mistaken.

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Speaker 2: I think that's what I read yesterday. So yeah, Browns

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Speaker 2: will not be in downtown Cleveland area anymore. This new

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Speaker 2: dome stadium plan is going to have like a translucent ceiling.

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Speaker 2: It's like basically a glass ceiling, which is ambitious, you know,

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Speaker 2: in a city that gets plenty of snow. But it's interesting,

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Speaker 2: It does not looks like fancy smancy architects house.

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Speaker 1: You think about. It's amazing to me. The Bills have

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Speaker 1: been in high Mark for fifty two years now and

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Speaker 1: it you know, now they're building their new stadium. High

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Speaker 1: Mark is older than the old rock pile was when

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Speaker 1: they demolished the rock pile. You just it's amazing how

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Speaker 1: fast it goes now. You see, like Atlanta has had

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Speaker 1: there Cleveland. Now when they got back in in nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety five. Now they're building a new stadium, another new stadium.

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Speaker 2: Tennis there still open in twenty seven. Tennessee's building a

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Speaker 2: new stadium and they're building is only about twenty years old.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing. San Francisco finally built a new one when

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Speaker 2: off with Chuck in Hamburg. What do you got for us?

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Speaker 5: Afternoon, Chris Steve. As soon as I heard that we

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean get.

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Speaker 5: An interest that we take him out to East Roar

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go later, Thanks Chuck. He even said

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Speaker 2: the most invigorating place to play football. They're one in five.

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Speaker 2: Fans and media alike have been clamoring for Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 2: Not that that should be an excuse, you know, because

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Speaker 1: If for a guy who was in a contract dispute

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Speaker 2: Let's go to another caller in Hamburg, Bob and Hamburg.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Bob?

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Speaker 6: Hey, guys doing today good? I got two points. I'm

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Speaker 6: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Sure we don't hear too much about the job hunting

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Speaker 1: for Brandon Bean Sean McDermott. After they win on Monday

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Speaker 2: But his offensive line is old. Yeah on the.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think the Jets are gonna struggle.

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna They're not my pick to win the

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Speaker 2: That's a maybe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So seven and four they ain't gonna make it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And look their schedule. They got the Steelers Sunday

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Speaker 1: They got to go to LA and play the Rams.

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Speaker 1: They're home against the Rams. Okay, then they're coming to Buffalo. Yep,

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Speaker 1: But they've dug a hole for themselves. They gotta make

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Speaker 7: Hey, gentlemen, I love the show and I watch it

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he hit him around the shoulders. He never touched

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you actually have to break your fall as you're

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Ball handling and that kind of stuff. Yeh, I'll

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Speaker 8: First of all, gentleman, thanks for wanting to take up

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Speaker 8: Just how to respect? I got to seed some time

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Speaker 8: you're right and right now, brother, for the last two years,

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Speaker 8: Buffalo Bills. But I'm going to go with Steve said yesterday.

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Speaker 8: And I hate to pick on you all the time,

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Speaker 8: but you are with Chris, as you said, if it

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Speaker 8: was up to me, come Sunday, I will go one, two, three, four,

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Speaker 8: five plays to a Mari Cooper just to let them

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Speaker 8: know that he's part of the game plan, even if

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Speaker 8: he's not, just to make him thinking. Then go somewhere else.

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Speaker 8: I can cur what you said right there. Do that

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Speaker 8: if if Brady pay attention to Steve and this this, this, this, uh,

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Speaker 8: this this this segment right here, or yesterday segment, pay

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Speaker 8: attention with Steve said, I would do that in the

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Speaker 8: game plan just to throw them off right there because

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Speaker 8: they think, like, okay, right now we can go swimming.

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Speaker 8: Let me move forward. I'm sorry I could take it

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Speaker 8: so long, but anyway, I'm gonna say our to Brady.

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Speaker 8: Now I'm talking to my office of coordinator you're on

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Speaker 8: You're on lock now, mister bean Gon put you on lock.

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Speaker 8: He gave you a Mari Cooper. He gave you Hollis,

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Speaker 8: which is a special teamer. He gave you Curtis Sammis,

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Speaker 8: which is not doing anything. But he's still here, Jake here,

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Speaker 8: he's gonna get better. We got we got the we

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Speaker 8: have COVID. But now you're going to bring in if

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Speaker 8: he is up to me, you bring in Tyrrell Shavers.

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Speaker 8: Now you got five, you got knocks, you got con paid,

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Speaker 8: you got three backs. Ray Davis showed you last week

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Speaker 8: that he is that guy, Terrell Williams, the running back

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Speaker 8: along with Cook. So you have enough immunits. You got

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Speaker 8: more ammunition than Jim Kelly had. And when he is

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Speaker 8: speaking of that, and then I'm gonna hang up. People

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Speaker 8: always texting me and accident, but you always call one

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Speaker 8: Bill's Live and say the Bills could have went the

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Speaker 8: sixth straight Super Bowl? How was that? I'm gonna say,

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Speaker 8: this is Steve Chris, I need you to help me.

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Speaker 8: Nineteen eighty seven, we played against Cleveland Ronnie Hermy. The

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Speaker 8: ball went off the senior tips. He could have went

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Speaker 8: to the playoffs. Okay, well, correct, correct prose a year.

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Speaker 8: Then the next year we played against Cincinnati. The Smith

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Speaker 8: was six, Brucen was six. We went against Anthony Munos,

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Speaker 8: We played against the eighty eight. I mean that was ninety.

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Speaker 8: That was the ninety we went against Cincinnati. They played

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Speaker 8: against San Francisco for the Super Bowl. After every went

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Speaker 8: fourth straight, that could have been six straight times. When

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Speaker 8: Susan's all you young kids out there, Christmas teve, y'all

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Speaker 8: can back me up on what I just said about

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Speaker 8: those two years. People always said, well, how could bull

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Speaker 8: after the Buffalo Bills could have made history going to six?

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Speaker 8: That's why anyway, I love you guys anyway, Last thing,

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Speaker 8: but not least, I want to stay this to the

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Speaker 8: deepensive side of the ball. I want excuse as my

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Speaker 8: kids behind me. I want the Buffalo Bills to start

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Speaker 8: rushing Dorian Whims, who I call a little right way

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Speaker 8: up the middle more blitzes instead of sitting four people

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Speaker 8: on the side. All right, I love you boy.

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Speaker 4: Thanks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like they'll do that from time to time. Defensively

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Speaker 2: in the game plan, you'll often see Dorian Williams and

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Speaker 2: Terrell Bernard lined up in the double A gaps and

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Speaker 2: there were times last year where they used Matt Milano

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Speaker 2: as a blitzer off the edge. We haven't seen it

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Speaker 2: much this year, and I imagine it's because perhaps they

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Speaker 2: don't want to put too much on Dorian Williams plate,

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Speaker 2: you know now, But now that he's settled in and

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Speaker 2: he's been productive, maybe that's an added element that they

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Speaker 2: can bring to the table with him to diversify his

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Speaker 2: assignments in the course of a given game plan. We'll see.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, yeah, yeah, I mean, any anything else

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Speaker 2: you want to add to it.

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Speaker 1: No, he touched on all the base. I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: I'm I still think they need they need to get

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Speaker 1: him I'm not saying five times in a row, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you're an exaggerated they need to get him the

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Speaker 1: ball early, some early touches, first first series out of

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Speaker 1: the gate offensively, and we'll see how it goes. But

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Speaker 1: I also say this, I think even without Amari Cooper,

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Speaker 1: if the Bills hadn't made the trade for Amari Cooper

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Speaker 1: early in the week and they beat Jets and all that,

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Speaker 1: they would still be favored against this team. So you

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Speaker 1: got to use Amari Cooper in even in that way,

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Speaker 1: just throw them the ball early, get the Titans and think, Okay,

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Speaker 1: he's part of what they're gonna do today. We got

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Speaker 1: to do it. But the rest of the guys you've

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Speaker 1: got who are acclimated fully and fully integrated in the offense,

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have Shakir out there maybe for more plays

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Speaker 1: this week and better plays this week than he did,

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Speaker 1: you know, last year or last week. Cook's gonna be

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Speaker 1: back on the field perhaps. I mean, you're gonna be

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Speaker 1: have your full complement of weapons that you would have

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Speaker 1: been favored with without Amari Cooper. So give him a

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Speaker 1: Marii Cooper and then bait and switch and beat him

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Speaker 1: with what you you you've really got under the hood anyway,

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Speaker 1: unless you know Cooper, give him what you got. You know.

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Speaker 2: Yep, we have to take a break here because when

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Speaker 2: we come back, we're going to introduce to you on

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Speaker 2: set this week's Legend of the Game for a Sunday's

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Speaker 2: game against the Titans that's coming your way next here

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Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live, presented by col Out of Health,

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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, Welcome back to a

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Speaker 2: Friday edition of One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

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Speaker 2: with you, and time to introduce this week's Legend of

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Speaker 2: the game, former Bills offensive lineman Jim Richer. Legend of

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Speaker 2: the Game is presented by the bfl O Store, the

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Speaker 2: official retailer of the Buffalo Bills, and I left out

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Speaker 2: apart there Wall of Famer Jim Richard. I should mention

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Speaker 2: that as well. My question to you, Jim, is the

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Speaker 2: neck role going to be on when you're out there

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Speaker 2: Sunday afternoon? I think it should be.

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Speaker 9: Well, just the amount of weight that I put on

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Speaker 9: my chin and neck there, but no neckroll.

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Speaker 2: No, we don't see it anymore.

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Speaker 9: Nobody wears nobody wild to you at all or Yeah,

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Speaker 9: I don't know how they do it, especially the way

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Speaker 9: they hit each other out there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean that was a trademark you.

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Speaker 1: You left the Bills when you retired, and you were

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Speaker 1: part of the that whole crew that we're going to

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Speaker 1: the suit and all that, and you were always a

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Speaker 1: little bit undersized as an offensive lineman. But this little

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Speaker 1: people may not know this gym could outrun me. That's

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Speaker 1: not so so that which is one of the reasons

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Speaker 1: he was so valuable to us. And he was that

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Speaker 1: for those of you know, he's the guy that had

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Speaker 1: your helmet was attached to your shoulder pads.

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Speaker 9: That's right, Yeah, that's right. But talking about you and running,

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Speaker 9: all I remember is Steve running down on kickoffs and

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Speaker 9: getting knocked down two or three times and still being

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Speaker 9: in the first one to the punk carrier and making

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Speaker 9: the tackle.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're obviously old enough to be retired, because I

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Speaker 1: that never happened.

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Speaker 4: I not true.

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Speaker 1: The you just retired from your your career after football,

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Speaker 1: which was an airline pilot for you vetted that for decades, right.

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Speaker 9: Well, a couple almost. It was a little over twenty

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Speaker 9: four years. Yeah, I did it. I did some well

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Speaker 9: actually if you count in the year and some change

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Speaker 9: with Continental Express, you know, and then I went to America.

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Speaker 9: Do that counts yeah, well over twenty five then, yeah?

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Speaker 1: Nice.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So is that something that you studied in school at

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Speaker 2: NC State or did you go to flight school after

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Speaker 2: your football career was over.

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Speaker 9: I went to flight school after the career was over.

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Speaker 9: Well no, no, no, I take that back. I started

578
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Speaker 9: in eighty six.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you were doing it while you're still playing,

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Speaker 2: that's correct, gotcha?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember you were. You didn't have a contract

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Speaker 1: one year and we were in training camp and you

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Speaker 1: flew the plane over the top of right, yeah, over

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Speaker 1: training camp, over training camp.

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Speaker 2: What was it like a sandpaper or something or a

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Speaker 2: little cessna.

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Speaker 4: That was a little cessa.

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Speaker 1: Freddy. Freddy was out there. He's like, that's rickda Black.

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Speaker 1: That there he is right there, you know, fred He

590
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Speaker 1: was bitter. He was bitter. So you had you had

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Speaker 1: you were here in Buffalo. You had fond memories of

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Speaker 1: your time here in Buffalo. You after your lovely wife, Harriet,

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Speaker 1: who's here with you, three boys here and.

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Speaker 9: Born they were all born in Buffalo, Harriet. Yeah, and

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Speaker 9: all consider themselves Buffalonians.

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Speaker 4: They do.

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Speaker 9: We've lived in Raleigh a long time, but they you know,

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Speaker 9: they may never. When we first left, they said, well,

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Speaker 9: we're definitely going back to Buffalo and we're going to

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Speaker 9: live there when we get old enough, you know. But

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Speaker 9: now they know about the weather and have brought them

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Speaker 9: back a few times. I don't know if they'll be

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Speaker 9: full time Buffalonians, but they'll always have a heart for Buffalo.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So you going to n C State, you should talk

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Speaker 2: to Brandon Bean. He grew up in Wilmington and was

607
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Speaker 2: a huge Wolfpack fan growing up. So when you if

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Speaker 2: you happen across paths with our GM Brandon Bean, you

609
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Speaker 2: should talk to him about that. He'd be very happy

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Speaker 2: to talk a little NC State with you. Outland trophy

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Speaker 2: was something you want in college as the best interior

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Speaker 2: alignment in the country. How does that? Because you know

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Speaker 2: the college trophy, there's a college truth for you for

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Speaker 2: almost every position. Do they still like reach out to you.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you get invited every year to a banquet

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Speaker 2: or something, right like, where do they usually hold that?

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Speaker 9: It used to be in New York. I'm not sure anymore,

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Speaker 9: but they do they reach out And and I just

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Speaker 9: haven't you know, I was flying, I was out. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: I can make a lot of excuses, but I just

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Speaker 9: hadn't you know, taken the chance to go and or

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Speaker 9: the opportunity.

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Speaker 2: What do you remember about winning that back in my gosh,

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Speaker 2: seventy nine, I think right, like, so.

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Speaker 9: Well, what I think about it is all the real

626
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Speaker 9: true great ones were hurt that year and I and

627
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Speaker 9: I was still healthy, and so it's been like.

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Speaker 1: You're the last guy standing.

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Speaker 2: There was capital it.

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Speaker 9: Was like, you know, Anthony Munos, you know, but he

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Speaker 9: ended up getting hurt late near the end of the season.

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Speaker 9: Clark the defensive tackle from Penn State at the time.

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Speaker 9: What was you know, the outside linebacker for pitt at

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Speaker 9: the time?

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Speaker 1: Joe Green?

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Speaker 4: Was that him?

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Speaker 1: Joe Green? Hugh Green? Hugh Green?

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Speaker 9: Right, And you know there was a number of them,

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Speaker 9: and I just thought, well, they all got hurt at

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Speaker 9: the end of the season, so I got it by fourth.

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Speaker 2: Did you get to go up to the banquet in

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Speaker 2: New York and they do the whole shebang? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was great, It was wonderful.

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Speaker 1: You had a nice career here in Buffalo. How long

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Speaker 1: did you play here?

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Speaker 4: Fourteen years?

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Speaker 1: Fourteen years? And you had a year quick year in

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Speaker 1: Atlanta maybe at the end something like that.

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Speaker 9: I went down and cheerleaded for two years they finish.

650
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Speaker 2: Why did you attach your helmet to your pads? There

651
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: had to be a method or a reason for that.

652
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 11: Well.

653
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 9: I used to get a lot of stingers, and and

654
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 9: our doctor here had told me, he said, if you don't,

655
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 9: if we can't stop getting those stingers, I'm not going

656
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 9: to allow you to play anymore. It's just like, you know,

657
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 9: this is ridiculous, and so you know, I'm Woody and

658
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 9: I would get together, and you know, I was just like,

659
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 9: well if if, because sometimes when I would hit it

660
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 9: would go down in between the shoulder pads and you

661
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 9: know where they came up to my neck and so

662
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 9: probably not a good idea, but I would take this

663
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 9: copper pipe and I attached it across there so the

664
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 9: neck collar couldn't go down.

665
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: Past that with copper pipe.

666
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, with the copper pipe there.

667
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: It doesn't do anything to play Brownie. And you know

668
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: I think about it, I.

669
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 9: Tell you, so then you know it helped quite a bit.

670
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 9: But I would still duck my head when I would

671
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 9: hit something.

672
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: So inside that great foam to no, no, it was

673
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: outside thee.

674
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, and then the shoulder the collar would lay on

675
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 9: top of that. But what ended up happening was I

676
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 9: would put my head down, so what I needed to

677
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 9: do was keep it up against that. And so then

678
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 9: I attached or Woody and I would attach the yeah,

679
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 9: the straps from the helmet to the shoulder and the

680
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 9: kid like that, so I could.

681
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: Never have to turn because there would be film the

682
00:35:55,480 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: highlights of Gym be sitting there at guard and he

683
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't move at all, but his eyes were going like

684
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: his eyes were all the way over here, and then

685
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: they would go all the way over there, kind of

686
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: seeing everything because he couldn't turn his head.

687
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that had to be a challenge peripherally, like yeah.

688
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 4: Or anything, Oh I gotta do is block the guy

689
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 4: in front of me.

690
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 2: I'm thinking like a guy on a stunt or a

691
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: twist like you worried coming from the side.

692
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 9: It wouldn't worked for many many of the players out there,

693
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 9: like a receiver made it.

694
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: You made a couple of Pro Bowls. I mean I

695
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: think I played in.

696
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 9: A you were you were MVP of the Pro Bowl

697
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 9: that I oh that ninety three one? Yeah, oh nice, sweet,

698
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 9: I made us an extra ten grand Yeah, that was

699
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 9: I remember that.

700
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 4: It was.

701
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun.

702
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, So Jim, you know, like offensive linemen

703
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 2: can be like energetic guys for a locker room. But

704
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: were you ever like the guy in the locker room

705
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: given the pregame speech? I mean youual? Yeah, So have

706
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 2: you been watching some of your predecessors here with the

707
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 2: pregame responsibilities? Okay, I have not seen that because you're

708
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 2: I mean, look, the crowd's going to be pretty amped

709
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 2: on their own as we know.

710
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 12: But like you're you're the you're the fire starter and

711
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 12: in spectations for you when you have to when you

712
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 12: take the mic and steves five thousand people, So you

713
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 12: got to tell them, ask them what you're supposed to

714
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 12: say and just say that.

715
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: Okay, just say that, but yeah, yeah, you'll have your

716
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: own spin on it, no question. But just ask them

717
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: what you're supposed to say, say it and lay down,

718
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: because it's it ain't easy, as much as easy as

719
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: it may look. For some guys, it ain't easy to

720
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: do it.

721
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 2: Okay, Uh, sixteenth pick in the draft back in nineteen eighty,

722
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 2: what do you? Where were you on draft day? Were

723
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 2: you just sending in your college dorm or like it's

724
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 2: a little different now you got people in their homes,

725
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 2: they got their suits on, their whole family's there. It's

726
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 2: like a house party. Where were you in nineteen eighty

727
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 2: on draft Day?

728
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 9: I was in the coach's offices up, you know, at

729
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 9: the facility that we had and just waiting for the

730
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 9: call to see and you know, the Buffalo had the

731
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 9: tenth pick in that draft, and you know I was thinking,

732
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 9: you know, figure and maybe you know I would be

733
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 9: down a little more from there, and so I was thinking, oh,

734
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 9: maybe Seattle. You know, I would be going to Seattle,

735
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 9: and you know, I'd been out there and they were

736
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 9: young Rafcorn and and all those guys out there at

737
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 9: the time. I was pretty that this would be good,

738
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 9: you know. But they traded up with Buffalo, so they

739
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 9: got the tenth pick. And I thought when they first

740
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 9: announced that, I was thinking, oh, they're trading up to

741
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 9: get me, right, But then they picked and I'm gonna

742
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 9: forget who it was. He was a defensive end back

743
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 9: back then, and they took him and and you know,

744
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 9: he was a really great all Pro type player, you know.

745
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 9: And and I came to the Bills and and like

746
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 9: I said, you know, I don't know why they drafted

747
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 9: me at all as a set or because what they

748
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 9: wanted me to do I wasn't very good at.

749
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 4: You know.

750
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 9: I was a veer type, you know, just scramble, you know.

751
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 9: And now I come to training camp and there's Fred

752
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 9: Smirlers three hundred and twenty pounds. Most of the nose

753
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 9: guards I saw in the ACC were one hundred and

754
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 9: ninety pounds.

755
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know.

756
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 9: They were quick, and I needed to be quick, but

757
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,240
Speaker 9: you know, I wasn't a guy that was just gonna

758
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 9: come off the ball and drive someone back. And you know,

759
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 9: they put fred smirless over me, who's quick as a

760
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 9: cat close to the ball. He's always off sides. And

761
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 9: you know that was that was pretty difficult.

762
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 2: And later there are you and you and Freddy.

763
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: Freddy still gives you a lot of credit for making

764
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 1: him a better player. You guys were really close buddies

765
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: still are. And yeah, and you, I mean you, I

766
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: guess you get that way when you bang heads with Hi. Yeah,

767
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,439
Speaker 1: but when you fight every day, you fight every day,

768
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: and yeah, you start to get a close relationship. And

769
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,280
Speaker 1: I know you're right. He you can't have a conversation

770
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: about the Buffalo bills that your name doesn't come up

771
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: when you're talking to Fred. So I know you two

772
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: have worked really close. I even when I got there

773
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: in eighty six, your your relationship. You guys have been

774
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: together for half a dozen years. And by that time,

775
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: you had, you know, buckled your helmet down and you

776
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: got all that stuff straightened out.

777
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's probably half the problem with my neck, was

778
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 9: fred mashing into me. Freddy was six hundred times.

779
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 2: There there wasn't much subtlety to fred In anything. Jacob Green,

780
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 2: was that that defensive end you were thinking of?

781
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 4: Who?

782
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 2: I'll just be honest, I had never heard of him

783
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: until this moment. Had one hundred and fifteen and a

784
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 2: half sacks in his career. That's a pretty good NFL career, man, Like,

785
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 2: very good, not bad.

786
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

787
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 2: I mean played until and he only played until ninety two,

788
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 2: so he only got about twelve years in. That's pretty good.

789
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: Jimmy, It's good to see you man.

790
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 4: Thanks, that's great, Thank you so much.

791
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, to get fired.

792
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: A great weekend. What are you going to do tomorrow

793
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 1: on your day off? You going to sign some stuff

794
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: and go out and make an appearance anywhere or what.

795
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 4: Not that I know of.

796
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 9: But maybe we have some friends from Raleigh, you know,

797
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 9: with us and and we want to take them to

798
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 9: Niagara Falls.

799
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 4: They've never seen Rapher do that.

800
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 9: And we're gonna get a tour of the stadium right

801
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 9: now after finish up here.

802
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 4: So they're excited. You're excited to have them here.

803
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 2: You picked a game. It's going to be absolutely beautiful,

804
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 2: seventy degrees on.

805
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 4: Its unbelievable weather.

806
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, we we made it nice.

807
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: For you.

808
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 2: It's yeah, good to see as always, and enjoy it.

809
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 2: Enjoy it. You're gonna be the center of attention for

810
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 2: about twenty five seconds. That's Jim Richard, Bill's Wall of

811
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 2: Fame offensive lineman. We'll take a break here, be back

812
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 2: with more on One Bills Live, presented by Colida Health.

813
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Al right, back here on One

814
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 2: of Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. So

815
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 2: keep an eye out for the Wall of Famer Jim

816
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 2: Richard on Sunday.

817
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: He'll be out two one, he'll be out two one

818
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: around yeah pre game, Yeah, absolutely, yeah. Uh.

819
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: We got to get back to the phones. At eight

820
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 2: oh three, five fifty is the Obel Friday fan mail

821
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 2: bag is open for you. And next up here is

822
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 2: Kevin in Hamburg. What's up, Kevin?

823
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 13: Hey, guys, how you doing? Thanks for taking my call.

824
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 13: I want to bring up about about our kicking situation

825
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 13: and we got trying a new kicker on the practice squad.

826
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 13: And I don't like to, you know, pre judge a

827
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 13: book by its cover, but it seems that we've seen

828
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 13: that try these kickers out. They come from warm places

829
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 13: and if you know anyone that knows a kicker that's

830
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 13: lived in cold places or kicked that ball turns into

831
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 13: an ice brick. And when you come from the South

832
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 13: and come up to a cold place, you can say, yeah,

833
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 13: I'll be ready for it. I'm used to it and

834
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 13: all that. But I don't know if you totally ever

835
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 13: bringet used to and you kick that ball and it's

836
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 13: like ice, ice sprinkled like five degrees and down there California,

837
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 13: you know what I mean?

838
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get what you're saying, Kevin. I respect it.

839
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, maybe there is something to that. I'm

840
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 2: not sure, but yeah. Lucas Haversick, who's the practice squad quarterback,

841
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 2: is from California, played his college ball at the University

842
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 2: of Arizona. Kicked nine games for the Rams in Sofi Stadium,

843
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: which has a roof on it. So I get where

844
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 2: you're coming from, Kevin. I do. Just in case anyone's wondering.

845
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 2: Coach McDermott was asked today and he said Tyler Bass

846
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 2: is kicking this week for them, so Bass will be

847
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 2: up again this week. Haversick remains on the practice squad,

848
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 2: so we'll see where it goes. I interviewed Brandon Bean

849
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 2: for our pregame interview on the Bills Radio Network and

850
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 2: asked him what are the plans going forward with Haversick

851
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: and he said, Look, the NFL is about competition, and

852
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 2: Tyler Bass now has competition on this roster. And he

853
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 2: basically said going forward, whoever kicks better during the practice

854
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 2: week is probably gonna be the one that's up kicking

855
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 2: on Sunday. So there's your answer. Yeah, that's kind of

856
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 2: where it's at right now.

857
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 1: But I get it makes I mean, it makes logical sense.

858
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: It's hard to argue with a guy who kicked in

859
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: Arizona from California, kicked in LA.

860
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 2: Professionally nine games.

861
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, come to Buffalo, it's a different animal.

862
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 2: It wouldn't be different this week.

863
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 1: But no, it won't be different this week. But yeah,

864
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: it's always But I respect the concern absolutely, I mean

865
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: I get it.

866
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 2: I know there was another kicker that they tried out,

867
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 2: Harrison MeVis University of Missouri grad. He's kicked in some

868
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 2: colder weather, but he's also kicking in the SEC. I mean,

869
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 2: his home games are probably the coldest weather he's kicked in,

870
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 2: unless there was some kind of weird weather blowing through

871
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 2: at a road game at Kentucky or something.

872
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: And you're right, the caller, Kevin's right. The ball as

873
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: hard as a rock in the cold.

874
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm and it doesn't travel as well either.

875
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: And it's slippery as a ice cube too, the thing.

876
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's an issue.

877
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 2: Back to the phones and to Judy and Buffalo. What's up, Judy.

878
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 11: You know, I've been critical of Brandon Bean for three

879
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:17,280
Speaker 11: years from not getting the offensive talent that Josh Allen needed.

880
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 11: So I was really very surprised when he picked up

881
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 11: a Mary Cooper, which I think is a plus. I

882
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 11: want to ask you one thing, though, why do you

883
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 11: think the Dallas Cowboys didn't pick up Marie Cooper?

884
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 13: Who?

885
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 11: The Cowboys are more desperate than we are. I just

886
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 11: wonder what you think about them.

887
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: I think I'll sell you what I think. Yeah, go ahead.

888
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 11: I'm still not going to give up on them making

889
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 11: a trade with the Green Bay Packers. I don't think

890
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 11: we're going to get one of their tap receivers, but

891
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 11: they are so good at drafting receivers. I'm sure they

892
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 11: have a fourth receiver on their rasters somewhere that is

893
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 11: better than most of what we have.

894
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 2: See now, Judy, before you go, I was so hopeful

895
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 2: that the acquisition of Amari Cooper would have Judy and

896
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 2: Buffalo satisfied that finally another weapon for Josh Allen had

897
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 2: been acquired. And here you are today. You're you still

898
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 2: want more, don't you?

899
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 8: Well?

900
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 11: No, no, I mean I'm very happy with this, Okay,

901
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 11: for this reason. Now I'm going to go to the

902
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 11: next five games. And you know how I like to predict.

903
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 11: I was hoping for three two. Now I'm going to

904
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 11: go for four to one, which if we can pull

905
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 11: that off, puts us closer and closer to the playoffs,

906
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 11: which is all I'm hoping for.

907
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, boy, I gotta tell you Judy, thanks

908
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 2: for the call. Judy as olhways she is. She is

909
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 2: tough to please.

910
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: You gotta respect it, man, she holds a high standard.

911
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: I was like, you gotta respect it. You know.

912
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 2: Like a day after the trade was made, I was

913
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: thinking to myself, if you hear from Judy, is she

914
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 2: gonna be happy with this? Like like we're good. No

915
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: more arguments about banded being not getting enough receiving talent.

916
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 2: I was like, Amari Cooper a five time pro bowler

917
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 2: six one thousand yard season. This has gotta check the

918
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 2: box for her.

919
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: Obviously, she's happy, but not satisfied, and so you know,

920
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: continu kills me. She continues to pound the drum for

921
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: a Green Bay.

922
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 2: I think if Judy was building the roster, there'd be

923
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 2: ten receivers and then just figure out the rest everybody.

924
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: But ten is the minimum on the roster for Josh Allen.

925
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, she's also saying this next stretch of five

926
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: game is gonna be really good stretch for the Bills.

927
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: She thinks the Bills are on four and one is

928
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: what she's called for. We'll see you gotta stay healthy

929
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: and all that. But I'm you know, I didn't want

930
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: to pin her down joking with her. Yes, the fifth

931
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 1: the fifth game, there is the Kansas City Chiefs game.

932
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 1: If you go into that four and one, I wonder

933
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: if she'll say that's okay if we lose the Chiefs.

934
00:47:55,840 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: I'm probably not right. Well, it'll fit her, it'll fit

935
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 1: her prediction. But yeah, and I'll say this too about

936
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper and the Dallas Cowboys. Now, I don't know,

937
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: but I would guess my educated guess, and what I

938
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: know about it is that Jerry Jones just didn't fall

939
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: in love with Mary Cooper like he fell in love

940
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: with Ceedee Lamb. That's just the way it goes there.

941
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: They had both those guys, uh, and there was another

942
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: guy too, it seems like. But Jerry Jones makes those

943
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: decisions and sometimes they're not. They don't. They're not based

944
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 1: in logic, They're based in Jerry's gut feeling.

945
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 2: And they don't need help on well, they need help

946
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 2: on offense, but they need more help on defense.

947
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: They didn't need help on They can't stop anybody. Amari's

948
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: been out of Dallas now for what two years? Two

949
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: full years, yes, so it's been a minute. And I

950
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: think they didn't want to spend the money they were

951
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: gonna have to spend on Amari.

952
00:48:58,760 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 2: That's why they traded it.

953
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 1: They want to spend it somewhere else.

954
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 2: So it's kind of hard to go back to that

955
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 2: just in terms of the name guy. Yeah, but personally

956
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 2: I think they need more help on defense because they

957
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 2: are getting blown out because they literally cannot stop anyone,

958
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 2: Mike essentially, Dak Prescott and Ceedee Lamb. So I agree

959
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 2: with you they probably need some help on offense too,

960
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 2: But their defense is like Swiss cheese.

961
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons has been hurt, and DeMarcus Lawrence is out,

962
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: and no Bland is out. Their corner who had all

963
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: the interceptions last year. So they they're the top of

964
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: the personnel chart on their defensive side, have all been

965
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: chopped off, their best of everything.

966
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 2: They have no depth. So when you lose your frontline

967
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 2: guys and there's nobody comparable to put on the field

968
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 2: behind them, you're gonna get waxed at home by thirty points.

969
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 2: I mean, they lost their be They haven't just lost Steve.

970
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: They've been annihilating and they took they chopped off the

971
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 1: maybe a guy who's always in the conversation for defensive

972
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: Player of the Year and Michah Parsons, you know, so

973
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: they that in and of itself would hurt you. But

974
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: then they get lost Bland, the corner and everybody and

975
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence. So I mean, goodness, gracious, they're they're struggling.

976
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,919
Speaker 2: We gotta take a break here. But when we begin

977
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Speaker 2: the second hour of the show, you know who usually

978
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Speaker 2: is in that time slot on a Friday. Senior producer

979
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Speaker 2: from NFL Films, Greg Cosell joins us. You gonna talk

980
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 2: a little x's and o's about this Bill's Titans match

981
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 2: up next here on One Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health.

982
00:50:24,120 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

983
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live, presented by Kalita Health.

984
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 2: All Right, here we are our number two on a Friday.

985
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you and joining us now

986
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 2: as he does every week. Senior producer from NFL Films,

987
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 2: Greg Cosell, whose weekly segment is presented by Scott Lonyard,

988
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,720
Speaker 2: an official commercial site work partner of the Buffalo Bills.

989
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 2: All Right, Greg, the passing game just got a shot

990
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 2: in the arm this week with the acquisition of Amari

991
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 2: Cooper for Bills fans that might not be wholly familiar

992
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 2: with his game, why don't you break him down for

993
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 2: them and where maybe he excels as a receiver most.

994
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 14: Well, of course, I knew you would ask me that, Brownie,

995
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 14: so let's put it in the context of the Bills,

996
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 14: because that's the critical piece here. I remember being at

997
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 14: the Combine a couple of years ago and having a

998
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 14: great conversation with a veteran wide receiver coach in the

999
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 14: league who said to me, and as soon as he

1000
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 14: said it, of course it resonated because I watched tape

1001
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 14: of all teams. He said, it's really hard to have

1002
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 14: a consistent and good passing game in this league without

1003
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 14: a boundary X receiver. And by that it means that

1004
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 14: when you line up in a three x one set

1005
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,959
Speaker 14: and you have the single receiver to the short side

1006
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 14: of the field, that's the boundary X receiver. That receiver,

1007
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 14: very often in this league, now gets single coverage, man

1008
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 14: to man coverage, and if you don't have a receiver

1009
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 14: who can win versus man to man coverage at that

1010
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 14: boundary X, it's very hard to have a really good

1011
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 14: pass game. It's very limiting. And obviously they drafted key

1012
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 14: On Coleman with the idea that down the road he

1013
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 14: could become that guy because of his size and his trades.

1014
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 14: But he's not there yet, so they don't really have

1015
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 14: that guy, and it really presents major limitations for what

1016
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 14: you can do in a pass game.

1017
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 10: Amari Cooper is that guy.

1018
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:05,720
Speaker 14: He's big, he can runs, he can run in breaking routes,

1019
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 14: he has vertical ability. So now you have the ability

1020
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 14: to line up in three by one sets with a

1021
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 14: true boundary ex receiver who gives you that dimension to

1022
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 14: your offense. And I think that's a really critical piece

1023
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,240
Speaker 14: because I think we would all agree that the past

1024
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 14: game has been somewhat handicapped in hamstrung by the fact

1025
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker 14: that they didn't have sort.

1026
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 10: Of that guy.

1027
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: What does that do to the defense having that guy

1028
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: sitting over there, Well, you.

1029
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 14: Have to decide number one, depending on who you're playing,

1030
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 14: if you have a corner that can match up to

1031
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 14: a man to man, or if you need a safety

1032
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 14: that has to be part of that coverage. Steve and

1033
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 14: you know, I know, you know all this, We're letting

1034
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 14: the audience know. So if you feel that you need

1035
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 14: a safety to be part of that, then you've got

1036
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 14: three receivers to the other side, where there's there's technically

1037
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 14: less people that are available because a lot of teams

1038
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 14: what they do now, if they feel they have a

1039
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 14: really good corner who can match up to your boundary X,

1040
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 14: they take that boundary safety and he becomes part of

1041
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 14: the coverage to the trip side of the formation, and

1042
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 14: that adds another body and makes it a little tougher

1043
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 14: to work that side. So the hope is, of course

1044
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 14: that Cooper.

1045
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 10: Being what he is.

1046
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 14: Big, can run, can run in breakers, can run vertically,

1047
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 14: can pretty much do anything as a receiver that he demands.

1048
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 14: That defense has changed the way they play, and then

1049
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 14: the hope, of course, becomes, if they do that on

1050
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 14: the other side, the trip side, that the Kincaids can

1051
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 14: become even a bigger factor, Shakir, that these guys can

1052
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 14: become a bigger factor because of the coverage.

1053
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 2: What about I kind of want to get back to

1054
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 2: what worked for the Bills last week and the Monday

1055
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 2: Night came against the Jets, and that was obviously their

1056
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 2: run game and setting offense early. Yeah, and Ray Davis

1057
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 2: was fantastic on that first drive and for most of

1058
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:03,399
Speaker 2: the game after that. But here's the question. That all

1059
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 2: looked great controlling the line of scrimmage. I mean, it

1060
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 2: was as physically dominant as we've seen Buffalo's offensive line

1061
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 2: in the run game, maybe since the Dallas game last year. Yeah,

1062
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 2: But how sustainable is that on a week to week basis?

1063
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 2: And I say that knowing that there's going to be

1064
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 2: two pretty formidable defensive tackles this week into Andre Sweat

1065
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:27,760
Speaker 2: and Jeffrey Sims. Jeffrey Simmons.

1066
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 10: Yes, I mean you obviously want to run the ball.

1067
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 14: The Bills have probably run it in some ways more

1068
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 14: than I don't want to say more than they want.

1069
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 10: I don't know what their plan.

1070
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 14: Is, but I think the passing game has really not

1071
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 14: been what they expected through the early part of this

1072
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 14: season through six games, and they're going to need more

1073
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 14: from the pass game. And last week I talked about

1074
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 14: the fact that I thought schematically they needed more and

1075
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 14: I still believe that based on tape study. Now, when

1076
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 14: you do get a Cooper, maybe you can win some

1077
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 14: one on one matchups against man cud Ridge, and maybe

1078
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 14: Josh feels more comfortable throwing him the ball than he

1079
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 14: might other receivers because of who Cooper's been in the

1080
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 14: league and the success that he has had. But I

1081
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 14: think this pass game needs much more to it for

1082
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 14: this offense to be really what ideally it can be. Yes,

1083
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 14: you want to be able to run the ball, but

1084
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 14: not every week are you going to come out and

1085
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 14: run the ball the way they did on that first

1086
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 14: series where what I think eight of the nine players

1087
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 14: were running late. So that's that's not going to happen

1088
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 14: every week.

1089
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 2: All right, So let me follow that up with this,

1090
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 2: because going into that game, the Bills were a sixty

1091
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 2: one percent run team on first and tent, which was

1092
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 2: a sharp departure from what it was under day Ball

1093
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 2: and Dorsey when they were up amongst the league leaders

1094
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 2: in pass rate on first down. Does Cooper impact that

1095
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 2: tendency at all? Do we get closer to fifty to

1096
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 2: fifty or do you think that Joe Brady is what

1097
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 2: he is because they were fifty two percent run last

1098
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 2: year when he took over his interroim.

1099
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, literally, that's a Joe Brady question. But

1100
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 14: I don't know the answer to that, and I'm just

1101
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 14: being honest. But the bottom line is is they're going

1102
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 14: to need more from their passing game within structure than

1103
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 14: they're getting right now. I mean, obviously Josh Allen can

1104
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 14: make special plays. I mean the forty two yard play

1105
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 14: to Davis last week was that's a snapshot of Alan.

1106
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 14: I mean, he had Shaquiir wide open on the sit

1107
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 14: route at five yards. Now it's second and ten, and

1108
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 14: maybe Josh feels like I'm not throwing a five yard

1109
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 14: ball on second and ten. You know that would He's

1110
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 14: the only one who could tell you that, but Shakir

1111
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 14: was wide open. It probably could have turned it up

1112
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 14: and gotten a first down. So he leaves the pocket

1113
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 14: and makes the incredible throw, and make no mistake, that

1114
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 14: was a ridiculous throw. But even even the first play

1115
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 14: of the second half where he hits Samuel he leaves

1116
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 14: the pocket, it becomes a second reaction play. You know

1117
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 14: he's great at those, but it's hard to live on that. Yeah, Foundationally,

1118
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 14: you know, the offense, the passing game needs more of

1119
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 14: a struck should week to week feel to it in

1120
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 14: order to work.

1121
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: And if you get this guy Amari Cooper, Shakir comes

1122
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: back and is fully healthy. Basically, what it sounds like

1123
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: is Cooper will help him get a few more a

1124
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: little more separation. Certainly, Shakir getting back in gives them

1125
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: one more option, particularly in the short intermediate. But one

1126
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 1: of the things they've been criticized for is not being

1127
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: able to really push the ball down the field. I mean,

1128
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: obviously you're talking you know, the play to Ray Davis

1129
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: is not count as pushing the ball down the field.

1130
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: That's an off the cup play. I'm talking about, you know,

1131
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: the fifteen yard dig route or the comeback route on

1132
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: the outside outside the numbers. What is keeping the Bills

1133
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: from having those kind of plays in their offense if

1134
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: you can tell, Well.

1135
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 14: That's what I spoke about last week, and I think

1136
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 14: it still holds is schematically, I don't see a lot

1137
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 14: of that from a route structure standpoint, and then you

1138
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 14: still have the Josh Allen factor. I mean, Josh this year,

1139
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 14: I think a little too often crossed the line from

1140
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 14: playing within structure, dropping back, hitting his back foot, throwing

1141
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 14: it to the right receiver at the right time with

1142
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 14: the right kind of throw, which, when all's said and done,

1143
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 14: is what quarterback is. And I think he's crossed that

1144
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 14: line a little too much where he leaves the pocket

1145
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 14: prematurely and then he leaves the structure of plays on

1146
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 14: the field. So you know, we all tend because he's

1147
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,919
Speaker 14: arguably the best in the league and making the Ray

1148
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 14: Davis plays or the Johnson plays against I think it

1149
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 14: might have been was it I forget who that was

1150
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 14: against when he threw it down to the one yard line.

1151
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 1: I think my Jacksonville, Miami or Miami?

1152
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, I think that was Miami.

1153
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 14: You know he's gonna make those plays, but you know,

1154
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 14: you really would like your offense, your pass game to

1155
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 14: really play within the structure. That's the way it's coach,

1156
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 14: that's the way it's taught. To develop any consistency in

1157
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 14: your pass game, that has to happen, and that's not

1158
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 14: happening enough, so I think, And it's not a matter

1159
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 14: of blame. It's just a matter of what I see

1160
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 14: on tape. I'd love to see better structure of routes

1161
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 14: to present more clearly defined reads and throws for Josh,

1162
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 14: and I think Josh has to do a better job

1163
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 14: of staying within the structure of that. When when the

1164
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 14: pocket is relatively.

1165
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 2: Clean, let's flip it over to Buffalo's defense facing an

1166
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 2: offense that's got some issues right now, to say the least,

1167
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 2: just to say the least to turn the ball, you know,

1168
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 2: turning the ball over at a high rate, and also

1169
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 2: literally no efficiency in the passing game whatsoever. I mean,

1170
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 2: Will Levis throws for ninety five yards last week, and

1171
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 2: it's just it's such a head scratcher for me. Greg

1172
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 2: when you have household names in the receiving corps like

1173
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins, Tyler Boyd, and Calvin Ridley, like what's going

1174
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 2: on there?

1175
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 14: Well, they crossed the line last week from trying to

1176
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 14: help a young quarterback that the Bears are doing with

1177
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 14: Caleb Williams the Commanders are doing with Jayden Daniels in

1178
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 14: terms of what they call they cross the line from

1179
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 14: helping to protecting. And you can't play in this league

1180
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 14: when you're trying to protect your quarterback. It's almost as

1181
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 14: if they were trying to hide their quarterback. You can't

1182
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 14: play like that. And again that's I'm not questioning what

1183
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 14: they do. They're with him every day, they're with their

1184
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 14: people every day. I'm just telling you what the film shows.

1185
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 14: So it's very difficult for them to play any kind

1186
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 14: of meaningful offense if that's the way they're going to play.

1187
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 14: Their run game was pretty good last week. Tony Pollard's

1188
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 14: a nice back. Their O line is has some youth

1189
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 14: to it, and you know, when you're trying to build

1190
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 14: an O line, you really would love to run the

1191
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 14: ball and be able to let them play forward and

1192
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 14: proactively rather than reactively in pass protection, which they've struggled

1193
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 14: with the times this year. So we really don't know

1194
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 14: what we're going to get from their offense. The only

1195
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,959
Speaker 14: thing I would say is Levice is a big armed kid,

1196
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 14: and every once in a while, even now while he's struggling,

1197
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 14: he can he can make some throws. He's capable of

1198
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 14: making any throw at any time, so he's dangerous. But

1199
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 14: they're really struggling on offense. If last week is any

1200
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 14: indication coming up to Buffalo a better team than they

1201
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 14: played last week, you know, at home at Buffalo, they're

1202
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 14: going to probably try to protect them again, I would think.

1203
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: Well, and you said you mentioned their run game for

1204
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 1: a moment, and obviously from the struggles that Levis is having,

1205
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 1: I mean, they really don't do anything that they can

1206
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 1: hang their hat on offensively, no, except lean on their defense, which.

1207
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 14: Is pretty good, by the way, right, I mean that's

1208
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 14: the thing. Their defense is pretty good. Brownie already mentioned

1209
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 14: their two d tackles. I mean, Simmons is a man

1210
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 14: and a half and you can just look at individual

1211
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 14: plays which maybe you guys have done, where he is

1212
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 14: just physically dominant and to Andre Sweat, he's come in

1213
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,919
Speaker 14: from day one and he is a big, big man

1214
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 14: with incredibly light feet.

1215
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 10: You know.

1216
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 14: So they're really good at the de tackle position. They

1217
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 14: can rush the quarterback at times, they're not phenomenal at it.

1218
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 14: But you know, with Key and with Landry, they can

1219
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 14: rush the quarterback. They've got two big linebackers who can run.

1220
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 14: You know, both those guys are six two sixty three

1221
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 14: two forty five ish. That's Murray and Jones I'm speaking about.

1222
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 14: They play a lot of press on the outside. They've

1223
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 14: got two veteran safeties who are solid players. This is

1224
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 14: a good defense.

1225
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 10: You know.

1226
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 14: Obviously, when your offense doesn't score, what happens is every

1227
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 14: play becomes magnified and one poor defensive play. And by

1228
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 14: the way, we know every team has more than one

1229
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 14: poor defensive play every game. But if your defense is scoring,

1230
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 14: you know, those plays just become plays. You know, when

1231
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 14: you're not scoring at all, those plays become magnified.

1232
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 2: Right, And as good as the Titans defense has been,

1233
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 2: the one thing they haven't done is take the ball

1234
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 2: away and force turno orders. And that's given no help

1235
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 2: to the offense in terms of giving them extra possessions.

1236
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 2: Would you be shocked if the Bills defensive game plan

1237
01:03:59,920 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 2: is basically neutralized Pollard and put it on Levis. I mean,

1238
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 2: can it be that simple?

1239
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1240
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 14: I mean, you're theoretically abstractly yes, Yes, that's definitely going

1241
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 14: to be the plan here, and you know, hope you

1242
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 14: get into a lot of third and eights and then

1243
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 14: you rush the quarterback against a rookie left tackle who

1244
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 14: I like a lot, Latham, but he's had some issues

1245
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 14: in pass pro. And last week they started a right tackle,

1246
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 14: Leroy Watson, who was a tight end in college and

1247
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 14: just made the transition to tackle in the NFL. Was

1248
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 14: a free agent and made his first NFL start and

1249
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 14: clearly struggled in pass protection.

1250
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I think Nicholas petite Frere is going to

1251
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 2: be back this week. I think, well, I think he

1252
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 2: was bench not hurt, so oh see, Okay, Okay, I

1253
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 2: think I think okay, I.

1254
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 14: Mean, is it possible he has an injury and they

1255
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 14: kind of, you know, use that. Yeah, I think he

1256
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 14: was benched, but I could be wrong.

1257
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 2: Wow, bench for a guy that hasn't played tackle before.

1258
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 2: How bad is it? Good?

1259
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 14: Lord, it's been really They're all line in past protections.

1260
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 10: Had a hard time.

1261
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.

1262
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 2: They've given up sixteen sacks already this year and five.

1263
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 14: This doesn't help Brownie because Levis is a guy that

1264
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 14: gets stuck in the pocket a lot and holds the ball.

1265
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 14: He's one of those guys. Yeah, you know, because this

1266
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 14: early see it as clearly as he needs to. You know,

1267
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 14: the term I always use, I know people use processing.

1268
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 14: I always talk about elimination and isolation, being able to

1269
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 14: eliminate what's not there and isolate where to go with

1270
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 14: the ball within the timing and structure. He tends to

1271
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 14: be a couple of beats slow at times with that

1272
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 14: and therefore gets stuck in the pocket.

1273
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 1: Yes, so I know. So he's a young quarterback. He's

1274
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 1: obviously very gifted. If you see him, it's the surface

1275
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 1: that reminds you of a Josh Allen, big, strong, athletic

1276
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 1: type of guy with a big arm. But you know,

1277
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 1: obviously Josh's development you could see it in increments and

1278
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 1: Brownie and I sat here for a year and a

1279
01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 1: half watching Josh take these steps. He wouldn't make the

1280
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 1: same mistake twice. He wouldn't do this other You know

1281
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 1: what is if you're watching Will Levis for the first time,

1282
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 1: or maybe if you've watched him a lot, what's you know,

1283
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 1: what's the are some Are there any baby steps that

1284
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 1: you've seen him take?

1285
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 10: Well?

1286
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 14: Yeah, I just mentioned the the elimination and isolation that

1287
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 14: that has to get better. That can get better, of

1288
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 14: course with experience, when you just see more things and

1289
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 14: feel more confident on what you're looking at. Another issue

1290
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 14: with him though, and again we felt this is what

1291
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 14: a lot of people felt about Josh Allen when he

1292
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 14: came out of Wyoming.

1293
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 10: By the way, but.

1294
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 14: His ball location is is very erratic. He does have

1295
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 14: scattershot tendencies that pops up too often on tape. But

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Speaker 14: as I said, you know, for coming out of Wyoming

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Speaker 14: and for the first year in the league or so,

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Speaker 14: you know, a lot of people thought that that was

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Speaker 14: a major issue with Josh And obviously he's cleaned that up,

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Speaker 14: which is still a surprise to many people because very

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Speaker 14: often guys who are erratic and scattershot. That doesn't change

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Speaker 14: Josh Allen in some ways in that regard is kind

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Speaker 14: of a unicorn, kind of different than most most guys

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Speaker 14: don't improve their accuracy dramatically.

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Speaker 2: Last one for me, Greg, it was kind of our

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Speaker 2: shared opinion that Taylor rat may have had his best

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01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 2: game in a Bill's uniform last week, and just the

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Speaker 2: return of him and Tarn Johnson on the back end,

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Speaker 2: what a difference.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, No, I thought that Rap played really really well.

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Speaker 14: I thought he played with incredible awareness and intelligence. You know,

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Speaker 14: he's a good football player. And Johnson, you know, the

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Speaker 14: thing that always we've talked about him through the years, Yeah,

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Speaker 14: he's been such a good player, and we know that

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01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 14: they are a nickel defense. I mean now they play

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Speaker 14: some dime obviously in certain situations, but at their core,

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Speaker 14: they're a nickel defense. The thing that always stands out

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Speaker 14: to me about Johnson is how good he is in

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Speaker 14: the run game. And that's the reason they can play

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Speaker 14: the nickel defense because he really he will fill in.

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Speaker 14: He'll even get into the B gap in the run game,

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Speaker 14: which normally you do not want your your slot corner

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01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 14: to have to be a B gap defender in the

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Speaker 14: run game. But because he's so good, the Bills ask

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Speaker 14: him to do that at times, and he's really competitive, tenacious, physical,

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Speaker 14: and he tackles.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got caught in some of the stuff the

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01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 1: teams are doing to the Bills is pulling that offensive

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01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 1: lineman around to the weak side to the slot side

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Speaker 1: where he's at and put it and try and get

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Speaker 1: an offensive lineman matched up on him. The problem is

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Speaker 1: if they get that lineman matched up in space, he can't.

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Speaker 1: He can't make enough contact to take Taran out of

1334
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 1: the play. Last week, the Jets did a nicer job.

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Speaker 1: They got him up in traffic and Tarn had to

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01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 1: take the offensive lineman on low and got a penalty

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Speaker 1: for a low block. So there's still yeah, there's still

1338
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Speaker 1: some gamesmanship going on trying to get him matched up

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01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 1: in a spot with one a guy who can block him,

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Speaker 1: and two without enough space that Arran can't jump around

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01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:53,799
Speaker 1: it and still get back in to make the play.

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Speaker 10: Right. But he's a really good football player.

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Speaker 14: Yes, he is, you know, And I think, I mean,

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01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 14: you know, you're in the build, so Brownie, I don't know,

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01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 14: you know when you talk to the coaches. But it

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01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:06,879
Speaker 14: seems to me that incrementally Dorian Williams is getting better too.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 14: So obviously Bernard is a really good football player, but

1349
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 14: you know, just watching the tape without being there every day,

1350
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 14: I feel like Williams is getting better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we haven't we actually took a call on

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01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 2: this today, but we haven't seen a lot of that

1353
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 2: pre snap a gap lining up with him or Bernard.

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01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 2: They haven't really blitzed a whole lot this year, so

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01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 2: we haven't seen much of that, and I'm wondering when

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Speaker 2: they'll turn to that or when they feel they need

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01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 2: to turn to that. Probably not this week. By the

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Speaker 2: state of the pass protection that you're describing here, and

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Speaker 2: you were right, Petit Frere was benched. I'm just curious

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01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 2: who they're going to start at right tackle now. It

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01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 2: could be one of three different guys. It could be

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01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 2: Petite Freyre, could be Jalen Duncan, could be Leroy Watson.

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01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 2: It doesn't sound like any of them have been anything

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01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 2: to write home about, though.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: No, it's Watson last week, and I think he played

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01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 14: every snap and while he was okay in the run game,

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Speaker 14: had issues in pass protection.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean aj Is coming off of a

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01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 2: jpanes Is coming off a two sack game last week,

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01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 2: should have been three. With the ridiculous roughing the passer

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01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 2: penalty that he got called for, he should have had

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01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:11,759
Speaker 2: three sacks.

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Speaker 14: And you know what he had besides just the sacks.

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01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 14: I thought those rushes were really good. The way that

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01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 14: he played off contact, used his hands really well. I mean,

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01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 14: he was not going against the stiff left tackle that

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01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 14: was Tyron Smith.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he had a nice week, so he may double

1380
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 2: down again this week. And it looks like Ed Oliver

1381
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 2: is going to be back too, so look out Tennessee

1382
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 2: O line. My goodness, Greg, thanks for the time. As always.

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01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll review what Cooper does this week next

1384
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 2: week with you.

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01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 10: I sure hope Sollen.

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01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 14: You know, you know, guys, though you can't take these

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01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 14: games for granted.

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01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:49,959
Speaker 10: You can't assume this is a victory. Yeah, you can't.

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01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 1: Do that, Brownie and I aren't doing it. We're not

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01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:52,600
Speaker 1: doing that.

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01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 10: You know how it works, Steve. You played you and

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01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:56,599
Speaker 10: how that worked.

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01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,680
Speaker 1: Can't do that all it takes sometimes just stand up

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01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 1: and take a deep breath and you lose.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 1: You gotta gotta keep your head down.

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Speaker 2: All right, Thanks Greg, We'll catch up with you next week.

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01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 10: All right, guys, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thanks all right. That's Greg co Sale, senior producer from

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Speaker 2: NFL Films joining us. We have to shift gears now, Steve,

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01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:17,639
Speaker 2: because I don't know if you heard, but the good

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01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 2: people at Snapdragon Apples took care of us for lunch today.

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01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 2: We just experienced it as the bills. It's Snapdragon Apples,

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01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 2: snap Dragon Apple season, so time out for a lunch

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01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 2: break presented by Snapdragon Apples. Snapdragon apples are being picked

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01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 2: now by growers across New York State and will be

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Speaker 2: available at your local Wegmans by the end of this week.

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01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,679
Speaker 2: Don't miss your chance to try fresh from the Trees

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01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 2: Snapdragon apples on the bill of art before the Bills

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01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:50,679
Speaker 2: Titans game Sunday and take a selfie with Snappy the Dragon.

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01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 2: Snapdragon apples are perfect for snacking salads or adding a

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01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 2: monster crunch to your game day spread. Today's offering for

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01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:03,639
Speaker 2: us you're in the control room today was a snap

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01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 2: Dragon apple lunch box and this is what it featured.

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01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 2: That stuff down chopped cheddar, snapdragon chicken salad. Then we

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01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:17,719
Speaker 2: had some kale apple salad and some slice snap dragon

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01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 2: apples with peanut butter and Tagen spice, which is like

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01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 2: a chili lime spice. So it kind of takes your

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01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 2: apple caramel dipping up a notch, so to speak. So

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01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 2: we were digging in hardcore there during the last commercial break.

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01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there you are with your mouthful.

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01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 1: Yeah again. Yeah, they gave us these stuff.

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01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 2: Cool little lunchboxes. It's like back and.

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01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 1: Snap Dragon people and Wegmans or you know, the food

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01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 1: people helping us out is good. That was all great.

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01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,680
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I mean trees.

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01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 1: Better we deserve. Actually, I gotta be honest.

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01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 2: It's basically so yeah. I mean the salad. The chicken

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01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 2: salad was like five slices of cheddar ch he's one

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01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 2: Snapdragon apple, a quarter cup of a red onion in

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01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 2: ten slices of deli chicken, you know, finely chopped, and

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Speaker 2: then you mix all those ingredients together with a little mayo.

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01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 2: And if you want the recipe, I've got the website

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Speaker 2: right here, so I'm gonna read it off to you.

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Speaker 2: Is it Snapdragon? Yeah, snapdragonapple dot com is the website

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Speaker 2: backslash recipe Snapdragonapple dot com backslash recipe to get the

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01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 2: chicken salad that we enjoyed today, chopp cheddar snapdragon chicken salad.

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Speaker 1: It was really good.

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01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 2: They had it on a sub. I mean we were

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01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 2: scarfing it as it really good stuff.

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01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 1: Appreciate the Snapdragon people.

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01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well yeah, and kale apple salad. You know, I'm

1443
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 2: just gonna tell you I'm not the healthiest eater around.

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01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 2: It was surprisingly good. You know, kale My wife makes

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01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 2: the kale chips in the oven like she bakes the

1446
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 2: kale with some garlic. Those are good. So I've been

1447
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 2: kind of turned onto kale a little bit. I've never

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01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 2: had it in a salad, and the red onion in

1449
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 2: the apple kind of makes the kale more tolerable, if

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01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 2: that makes sense. So it was good, little honey djon dressing.

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01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 1: The salad was great. I'm really great. So all that

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01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 1: food was really good, and all of it has some

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01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 1: form of snap Dragon. It is really good.

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01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, with that salad, it's pretty cool. They kind of

1455
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 2: mix it with some olive oil and so it keeps

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01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 2: the kale from being so stiff and leafy, and it

1457
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 2: kind of just softens up a little bit and then

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01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 2: it becomes a lot easier to eat. So you serve

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01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 2: that puppy cold. But snapdragonapple dot com slash recipe to

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Speaker 2: get the recipes we mentioned and enjoyed here this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: On today's lunch break, once again presented by snap Dragon Apples,

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01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 2: we'll take a break here, be back with more. We've

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01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 2: got collision course vision to victory the whole shebang, and

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01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 2: we'll try to find time to take some more of

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Speaker 2: your phone calls here on one Bill's Live presented by

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Speaker 2: co Lot of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. This week's

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Speaker 2: Collision course is brought to you by Gabes Collision. Gabes Collision,

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Speaker 2: the official auto collision repair center of the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 2: Get back in the game. This one's pretty straightforward, especially

1470
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:36,919
Speaker 2: in light of the conversation we just had with Greg Cosel.

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01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:42,799
Speaker 2: Buffalo's pass rush against the Titans offensive tackles JC Latham.

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01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 2: There top pick has been okay at left tackle. He

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01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 2: played his entire college career at right tackle at Alabama.

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01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 2: They've asked him to flip to the other side because

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01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 2: they don't have anybody else. And then their pick from

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01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago in the third round, I

1477
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 2: think he was a third round pick, Nicholas petite Frere

1478
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 2: has been benched and they put in a guy who's

1479
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 2: never played tackle before, and Leroy Leroy Watson. Last week

1480
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 2: he started, he struggled when petite Frere originally got benched.

1481
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 2: He was replaced by backup left tackle Jalen Duncan, but

1482
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 2: apparently he hasn't been much to write home about either.

1483
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 2: So they're kind of up a creek right now. And

1484
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 2: after seeing the game that aj Epanessa had last week.

1485
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 2: I'm feeling pretty good, especially know when he's at home.

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01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 2: I think I was napcount Itch, Yeah, I was telling

1487
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:35,879
Speaker 2: you earlier today. I think this game for Bills fans

1488
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 2: and for the teams to win this game, really it's

1489
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:40,719
Speaker 2: about their keeping their.

1490
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 1: Offense off the score off the scoreboard. I mean, you

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01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 1: may a couple of field goals, may win this if

1492
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 1: you can if their offense continues to struggle like it did,

1493
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 1: because this is a step up from the team they

1494
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:57,559
Speaker 1: just played and who lumped them up, and the Bills

1495
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 1: have have a chance to really give their offense some

1496
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:03,440
Speaker 1: breathing room to finally let a Mari Cooper get acclimated

1497
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. So, like I said, the Bills

1498
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:09,679
Speaker 1: had enough to win a game like this before Mary

1499
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,719
Speaker 1: Cooper showed up. How much they need Amari Cooper remains

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01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 1: to be seen. But if the guys they know are here,

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01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 1: Khalil Shakir, if he's one hundred percent of kincaid and

1502
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 1: Knox Cook is back on the field, they're gonna feel like, man,

1503
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 1: this is let's go and Amari Cooper for a game

1504
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 1: at least could be icing on the cake. But this game,

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01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:34,560
Speaker 1: to me, Brownie, is all about the Tennessee offense and

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01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 1: its ability to score enough points to win. And I

1507
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:40,559
Speaker 1: you know, with their pass they're not gonna hold suspect. Yeah,

1508
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 1: they're not gonna hold Josh Allen off the scoreboard. They've

1509
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 1: got to keep up with him in some way shape

1510
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 1: for even with their good defense.

1511
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:48,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they do have a number one pass defense

1512
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 2: one of their best cover corners. However, it looks like

1513
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 2: he's gonna be questionable for this game. That being Lugarious Snead,

1514
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:57,200
Speaker 2: the player for whom they traded with Kansas City this

1515
01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 2: offseason and then handed a four year, seventy six million

1516
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 2: dollar contract. He suffered a quad injury in last week's

1517
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:06,160
Speaker 2: game against the Colts, and he said it's going to

1518
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 2: be a pain tolerance thing for him to see if

1519
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 2: he can go in this week's game against the Bills.

1520
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 2: If he cannot, that is a huge loss from their secondary.

1521
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 2: He is questionable. Pretty much declared out already. Is the

1522
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 2: running back ty Jay Spears, So Tony Pollard may be

1523
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:31,759
Speaker 2: backed up by Josh Kelly, who is their practice squad

1524
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 2: running back, so he stands a good chance of being

1525
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 2: elevated and then Traylon Burks, not a frontline receiver for them,

1526
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 2: but a former first round pick, came down with an

1527
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 2: injury in practice yesterday and now it looks like he

1528
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 2: could be going on ir so he is out this

1529
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 2: week as well for the Titans. And then one of

1530
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 2: their backup defensive tackles, KeAndre Cobert, is out with an

1531
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 2: injury and to Andandre Sweat got added to the injury

1532
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 2: report yesterday, and right now the Titans only have three

1533
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 2: defensive tackles on their active rosters, so they're gonna have

1534
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:11,080
Speaker 2: to probably call another one up from the practice squad,

1535
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 2: so they could have two maybe three practice squad elevations

1536
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 2: for Sunday's game.

1537
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's a problem for him. I mean,

1538
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to We're gonna to watch their roster

1539
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:24,600
Speaker 1: and their actives and inactives. You know, they're one of

1540
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 1: those teams that plays four linebackers and three down linemen,

1541
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 1: so they you know, they can probably make do and

1542
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 1: they don't need as many defensive linemen as other teams do,

1543
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 1: but still three is not gonna get it done.

1544
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. So that is this week's Collision Course, brought to

1545
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 2: you by Gabe's Collision, official auto collision repair center of

1546
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills. We pivot now to Tailgate Friday, presented

1547
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 2: by high Mark Blue Cross Blue Shield. High Mark is

1548
01:19:56,840 --> 01:20:01,959
Speaker 2: the official healthcare plan of the Buffalo Bills. Cause Life

1549
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:04,679
Speaker 2: gotta see what's cooking up on the grill this week,

1550
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 2: and we lead off with Jack, who says, down in

1551
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 2: the lot, this week, I'll be toasting up some grilled

1552
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 2: cheese paninis on garlic butter Texas toast with your choice

1553
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 2: of cheese and bacon, pepperoni or ale pinos. We'll also

1554
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 2: have a nice pot of tomato basil soup. It's a

1555
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 2: comfort food tailgate, we hopefully a comfortable w go Bills. Yeah,

1556
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 2: you want to dip dip a grilled cheese panini and

1557
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:34,880
Speaker 2: some tomato soup? Yes, please, yes, please on Texas toast. O.

1558
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 2: Gotta hope it fits in the bowl.

1559
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 1: I know, so nice, so nice. All this food just

1560
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 1: sounds so good every time we read them.

1561
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So Epp is next, and he says, like

1562
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 2: Jack and Diane, we will be eating chili dogs outside

1563
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:53,679
Speaker 2: the Tasty Freeze with Nashville Hot chicken meatballs and grilled

1564
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:57,680
Speaker 2: chicken wings. Don't forget some bourbon and a cigar tailgating

1565
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 2: on Fay Street go bills, So that sounds like a

1566
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:06,759
Speaker 2: hometown tailgate, like driveway tailgate, neighborhood tails.

1567
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:08,639
Speaker 1: Face Street one of the streets around here right here?

1568
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 4: Is it on?

1569
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:10,559
Speaker 2: Oh maybe it is?

1570
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:11,680
Speaker 10: Yeah, maybe it is.

1571
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:14,800
Speaker 1: Yes, bourbon and cigars over here on Face Street?

1572
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 2: Then why am I not surprised? You know where the

1573
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 2: cigar tailgate is?

1574
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 1: Just taking a wild guest. I have no idea.

1575
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:29,680
Speaker 2: No uh jj l K has three words chicken, Italian sausage.

1576
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:34,440
Speaker 2: Where do you come down on the poultry as sausage

1577
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 2: because you know, we've all grown up with pork and

1578
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 2: beef sauce. That's right.

1579
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 1: And then that's.

1580
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:44,880
Speaker 2: Where I don't know. Somebody took a sharp left turn

1581
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 2: in the mid nineties and said we're late nineties and said,

1582
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 2: you know what, let's start shoving chicken parts in the case.

1583
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm going to point in my life

1584
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 1: where I don't need my sausage to be an ounce

1585
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:01,639
Speaker 1: of healthy. Right, just give me the pork or beef

1586
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 1: whatever you want. Yeah, it's all about the spicing mix.

1587
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 1: Any of that is sorry, sausages, sausage is that It's

1588
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 1: one of those things too, where you know your neighbor

1589
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 1: can make the sa you know, they make their own

1590
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 1: song and they usepecially and they have their own recipe.

1591
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:17,760
Speaker 1: It's all about the spice in it. Although I will say.

1592
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 2: Chicken and turkey sausage leaves something to be.

1593
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 1: For me too. I'm sure there are a lot of people

1594
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 1: who love it, and I'm sure that some people make

1595
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:29,679
Speaker 1: it really well. I'm just saying, when you're talking about sausage,

1596
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 1: it's it's beef for pork for me, like as a

1597
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 1: go to like see, and I don't care if it

1598
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 1: has a thousand calories or ten. I want I want, yeah,

1599
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 1: the beef for pork.

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01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 2: Right. Because I'm reading this from and No Knock to

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01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 2: jj LKA. If that's what you like, that's what you like.

1602
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but.

1603
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 2: I'm reading Chicken Italian sausage. It almost sounds like an

1604
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:49,200
Speaker 2: oxy moron.

1605
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean.

1606
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 2: It's like two it's like contradicting words there. Chicken and

1607
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 2: Italian sausage don't sound like something that should go together.

1608
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:02,639
Speaker 1: You have some Italian your heritage, and you said something

1609
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 1: about that Italians don't eat poultry.

1610
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 2: Well, no, what I told you was chicken parmesan or

1611
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 2: chicken catchetry or any chicken Italian dish is not native

1612
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 2: to Italy because they didn't have chickens running around in Italy.

1613
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 2: They had rabbit, you know, and then beef was eventually

1614
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:25,080
Speaker 2: imported into the Tuscany region of Italy. But yeah, chicken

1615
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:29,759
Speaker 2: parma is an Americanized Italian dish because nobody makes Nobody

1616
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 2: made chicken in Italy because they didn't have chicken readily available.

1617
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 2: They just most of their food is from what grows

1618
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 2: readily available, a lot.

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01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 10: Of fish dishes.

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01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:44,719
Speaker 2: Being a peninsula country from Greg, I'm going to deep

1621
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 2: fried chicken wings, dip them in sauce and then throw

1622
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 2: them on the grill until the sauce gets sticky. Then

1623
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 2: dip them in barbecue sauce. Oh my gosh, put them

1624
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 2: back on the grill until they're blackened, and repeat the process.

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01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 2: Holy cow, that's like a seven your wing Bless their heart, man,

1626
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 2: that's a that's commitment there, yeah.

1627
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 1: And it's you know, you gotta have them. You dip

1628
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 1: them in sauce and then dip them in barbecue sauce.

1629
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 1: The mix of the barbecue sauces has got to be important.

1630
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 1: Plus he he gets them to the point where they're

1631
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 1: sticky again on the grill and then dips them again

1632
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 1: and then grills them again't till it sounds fantastic.

1633
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, when you're making wings, you deep fry,

1634
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 2: then dip them in sauce, right, and then you usually serve.

1635
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:34,640
Speaker 2: He throws them on the grill, then puts them in barbecue.

1636
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 1: Deep dries the See, that's the thing. You deep fry

1637
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 1: them and then grill them.

1638
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:42,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. So here's the thing. I'm very curious what barbecue

1639
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 2: sauce on top of wing sauce tastes like together. I mean,

1640
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 2: we've all had barbecue wings, yeah, I mean we've all

1641
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 2: had regular wings, but a regular wing then grilled and

1642
01:24:55,840 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 2: dipped in barbecue sauce after that, and then grilled the again.

1643
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm intrigued. Well, there's gotta be. You've got to

1644
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 1: believe as the chef, you've got to believe that it

1645
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 1: makes a difference and makes something makes them something special.

1646
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 1: It's a multi layer exactly, And I want to I

1647
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 1: want to I want to try one and see how

1648
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 1: it tastes. Yeah, that's I want to see, Like, that's

1649
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 1: you know what.

1650
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:22,760
Speaker 2: Obviously taste the tanginess of the barbecue first, but then

1651
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 2: does the heat come through from the wing sauce. I'm intrigued. Yeah,

1652
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:33,560
Speaker 2: that's an interesting Trust the process, Trust the process, wing process.

1653
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 2: Andrew says, I'm gonna make buffalo chicken grilled cheese. Instead

1654
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 2: of traditional white bread, I'm gonna substitute it with chibata bread.

1655
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 2: Oh okay, and probably make my bacon cheddar, potato.

1656
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 1: Soup bacon cheddar. There you go.

1657
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 2: I know it's gonna be warm, but we're getting into

1658
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 2: like stick to your ribs soup and chili season, you

1659
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I am making my chili this weekend.

1660
01:25:56,200 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 1: By the way, cheddar and bacon, I mean, throw that

1661
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 1: on a shoe.

1662
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:03,599
Speaker 2: So what I'm doing on Sunday is I'm gonna have

1663
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 2: the chili in the morning made and I'm just gonna

1664
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:09,639
Speaker 2: put it in the crockpot and leave it on keep warm.

1665
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 2: So when I get home after the game.

1666
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 1: It's sitting there waiting, sitting there for.

1667
01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 2: The for my whole house is gonna smell like chili.

1668
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:18,879
Speaker 1: It's gonna be awesome.

1669
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 2: Thanks man, Thanks for all your recipes, everybody. For this

1670
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:28,879
Speaker 2: edition of Tailgate Friday. We appreciate it. Some good ideas

1671
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 2: in there. Greg's wing process, though, Is that's something that

1672
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 2: that might be the winner this week that I have

1673
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 2: never heard of that before. I love unique ideas for

1674
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 2: the recipe stuff.

1675
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 1: It's not. Yeah, the process is as important as the recipe.

1676
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 1: And that you know obviously grilling, frying it, then grilling

1677
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 1: it and then regrilling it pretty interesting.

1678
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:54,760
Speaker 2: I want to know, start to finish how long a

1679
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 2: process that is? Are we talking like twenty minutes, a

1680
01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 2: half an hour?

1681
01:26:57,680 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 4: Like what?

1682
01:26:57,920 --> 01:26:59,680
Speaker 1: A don't know.

1683
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 2: I'm very very curious. All right, we got to take

1684
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 2: a break here because when we come back, we have

1685
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:08,680
Speaker 2: to give you our vision to victory. So we'll do

1686
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:10,600
Speaker 2: that when we return. See if we can squeeze in

1687
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 2: a phone call next on one Bill's Live Stay with Us.

1688
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:32,679
Speaker 2: Vision to Victory presented by Adwall eye Care, the official

1689
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 2: eye care provider of the Buffalo Bills. I'll handle Buffalo's defense.

1690
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 2: It's pretty straightforward here. You neutralize Tony Pollard in the

1691
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 2: run game and put the game on Will Levis. I

1692
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:45,639
Speaker 2: mean that's kind of what you do. The Colts did

1693
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:49,559
Speaker 2: that last week with some degree of success and ended

1694
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:52,559
Speaker 2: up winning the game twenty to seventeen. And Will Levis

1695
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 2: throw for ninety five yards, one touchdown, one pick, and

1696
01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 2: if you put the game on him, he'll throw you one.

1697
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 2: He leads the league in turnovers with ten.

1698
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 1: And for the other side of the ball, the Bill's offense,

1699
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna run the football again, but you're

1700
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 1: gonna have to make it look a little different than

1701
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 1: you did against the New York Jets. The Titans are

1702
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 1: very tough down inside on their defense. They run a

1703
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:18,680
Speaker 1: three four defense. It's gonna look a little different. Your

1704
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 1: offensive linemen are gonna have to look for different guys

1705
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 1: at the second level. Is level is going to be

1706
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 1: more populated because of the stand up linebackers, So you're

1707
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:29,639
Speaker 1: off your running game is gonna look a little bit

1708
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:32,679
Speaker 1: wider to the edges than it did a week ago.

1709
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 1: And for the passing game, I think that is one

1710
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 1: hundred percent dependent on who's available and how much they

1711
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 1: can do. Amari Cooper, how much you can do, and

1712
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 1: if Khalil Shakir is one hundred percent, I think you

1713
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 1: you know you ten yard this team all the way

1714
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:52,559
Speaker 1: down the field and make them pay in the red zone, so.

1715
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 2: That is Vision to Victory presented by atwall I Care.

1716
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 2: We should let you know that the Bill's final injury

1717
01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 2: report has come out and Ray Davis and safety Mike Edwards,

1718
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 2: who fell ill late in the week, are the only

1719
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:08,679
Speaker 2: players who are questionable. Every other player on the active

1720
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:11,599
Speaker 2: roster that was on the injury report good to go

1721
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 2: for Sunday's game. How about it's Khalil Shakir, Ed Oliver, Dalton, Kincaid,

1722
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 2: James Cook, all those guys good to go.

1723
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 1: How bad do you How bad do you feel for

1724
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:25,120
Speaker 1: Ray Davis though? My guys, he comes out, busts out,

1725
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:28,719
Speaker 1: has a monster game, and now because of a calf injury,

1726
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 1: can't he can't keep that momentum going.

1727
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:33,360
Speaker 2: Well, he's questionable. We'll see if he improves between that

1728
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:35,800
Speaker 2: stakes though, man. But that's kind of where it's at.

1729
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:39,200
Speaker 2: As we told you early earlier, the Titans are probably

1730
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 2: going to be without their number two running back tij

1731
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:43,680
Speaker 2: Spears due to a hamstring injury. Might be some other

1732
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:46,840
Speaker 2: player absences as well. That's it for us today, Steve

1733
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 2: and I'll be back here on Monday to recap the

1734
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:52,840
Speaker 2: whole kit and kaboodle from Sunday's game. Noon three hour

1735
01:29:52,920 --> 01:30:01,559
Speaker 2: show on Monday. Don't miss it. We'll see you then,

1736
01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 2: Y