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Speaker 1: Welcome to The Favorites, the podcast presented by BED.

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Speaker 2: Three sixty five.

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Speaker 1: We are part of the Action Network. I am Chad Millman,

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Speaker 1: Chief Content Officer of the Action Network. Joining me to

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Speaker 3: Hello, Chad, how are we doing?

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Speaker 1: You know those shows where I know it's going to

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Speaker 1: I don't think I've heard three other people talk more

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Speaker 1: than you and our two guests today when it comes

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Speaker 1: to the seven years that I've been with Action Network,

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Speaker 1: we are doing our annual Fantasy Football Update episode with

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Speaker 1: two Action Network and Fantasy Labs superstars. As we did

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Speaker 1: last year, we'll discuss their top five most intriguing offseason

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Speaker 1: moves from a NFL fantasy perspective, and by the way,

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Speaker 1: five I put it in quotes, that's a loose five

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Speaker 1: because I'm sure we'll go off the rails a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Our first guest is Chris Raybond Co host of the

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Speaker 1: Action podcast in the Fantasy Flex one of the very

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Speaker 1: best player positional rankers in the world. We could say

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Speaker 1: best if not for the odds maker. Sean Kerner, our

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Speaker 1: director of predictive Analytics, one of the originators of the

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Speaker 1: Luck rankings, one of our favorite stats that we talk

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Speaker 1: about all the time in the podcast. Sean has been

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Speaker 1: a Fantasy pros number one ranked NFL expert three times,

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Speaker 1: awarded most accurate NFL player projections four times, I believe

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Speaker 1: last year when they did the write up about his rankings,

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Speaker 1: they basically called him the goat.

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Speaker 2: Raybun.

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Speaker 1: Though he's classy, he doesn't get jealous about that. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show, fellas, thanks.

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Speaker 2: For howdy and congrats again. Sean can't get jealous. It's

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Speaker 2: all about that synergy, baby as.

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Speaker 1: There is nobody who's more supportive of Sean Kerner than

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Speaker 1: Chris Raybun.

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Speaker 4: Well, it goes both ways, ideally, hopefully.

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Speaker 1: It's almost like you guys aren't even members of the

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Speaker 1: You are a closet fantasy freak. So I know before

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Speaker 1: we even get to Raybond and Kerner's top five most

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Speaker 1: intriguing moves, You've got some very serious questions about a

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm a best ball guy, though, Chad. I do

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Speaker 3: do season long stuff, like I'm in a couple of

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Speaker 3: dynasty leagues. But as these guys know, when you're doing

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Speaker 3: sports betting, it is so hard to do both because

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Speaker 3: you have to be on top of the wave of

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Speaker 3: wire watch trying to get your bets, and it's too much.

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Speaker 3: So for me, best ball you just set and forget

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Speaker 3: your lineups. It's my favorite thing to do, so off

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Speaker 3: the top. I have a couple of best ball questions.

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Speaker 3: I think our fans might benefit from where last year.

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Speaker 3: I like finding bad teams that people don't like in

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Speaker 3: the regular season and I load up on them for fantasy.

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Speaker 3: Last year, that team for me was the Rams. This

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Speaker 3: year my team, I know it's going to shock people

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Speaker 3: and gross them out. It's the Giants, Like I love neighbors,

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Speaker 3: I love high throwhigh receiver like. I think their offensive

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Speaker 3: lines improved. And Daniel Jones with Barkley leaving, I think

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Speaker 3: he might get more rushing touchdowns this season, which is

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Speaker 3: in Bestball he's going as a thirtieth quarterback. So I

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Speaker 3: would love to know your guys view of this where

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Speaker 3: it's like, I mean, if that's gonna be your second

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Speaker 3: is not everyone just taking Daniel Jones on a flyer

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Speaker 3: the fact that he could run for ten rushing touchdowns. Chris,

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Speaker 3: I'll start with you because you are a Giants fan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I do like that stack. It's not my favorite,

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Speaker 2: disgusting stack. I'll talk about that a little later, but

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Speaker 2: I agree with you. We've seen Daniel Jones have passing

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Speaker 2: three games with four plus touchdowns, four hundred plus passing yards.

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Speaker 2: We've seen him with the rushing upside under your gable,

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Speaker 2: and I think you stack him with neighbors. The hardest

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Speaker 2: part really is being able to draft neighbors because you

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Speaker 2: know he's an early round pick, but he's stacking with neighbors,

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Speaker 2: and you stack him with Jaylen Hyatt because even if

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Speaker 2: Jaylen Hyatt's just like a situational deep threat. Number four receiver.

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Speaker 2: He's a guy who's gonna, you know, like, if things

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Speaker 2: he's going to really kind of help Daniel Jones's passing value.

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Speaker 2: So I do like it. I think the Giants are

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Speaker 2: have to throw more. Like you said, no Barkley. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think that's exactly what you want to do in

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Speaker 2: best ball is find those cheap stats. That's how you

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Speaker 5: Especially for best ball. You know, Daniel Jones does provide

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Speaker 5: those spiked weeks that you certainly need in best ball.

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Speaker 5: I think in terms of stacks, you know, I would

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Speaker 5: also take a flyer maybe on like THEO Johnson at

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Speaker 5: Believe the number one tight end, I think it'll be

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Speaker 5: him and Daniel Bellinger. I think THEO Johnson certainly has

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Speaker 5: he's retiring. The one caveat with Daniel Jones is he's

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Speaker 5: actually listed as one of the quarterbacks where you could

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Speaker 5: bet on if he'll actually start Week one. I I

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Speaker 5: don't even know if there's a controversy, but he's around

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Speaker 5: I guess there's a chance he might not even be

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Speaker 5: of just is already baked in as ADP. I mean,

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Speaker 5: he's going around QB thirty and I think, you know,

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Speaker 5: But I guess that's the one thing is there might

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Speaker 2: Well, also it's not I think it may be. I mean,

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Speaker 2: obviously Daniel Jones's job is never going to be secure.

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Speaker 2: He's Daniel Jones. But he's coming off the torn acl

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Speaker 2: there's an outside chance he's not actually ready to go

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Speaker 2: so I think that also plays into it.

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't let everybody know we are pre recording this show.

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Speaker 1: Some of these things might change. I would say ninety

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Speaker 1: five percent of what we're saying will still be accurate,

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Speaker 1: but you never know. Some things changed. Don't be a hater, Listen.

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Speaker 1: There have been a lot of intriguing moves in the offseason.

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins to Atlanta is fascinating. Everything going on with

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs is wild. You guys are both repping. I

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Speaker 1: think some of the more intriguing moves that you guys

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Speaker 1: are ranking at the top of your top five Raybon

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Speaker 1: I will start with you give me your first, just

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Speaker 1: your first most intriguing move this offseason.

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Speaker 2: All right, And I just want to issue a disclaimer,

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Speaker 2: like Sean and I both didn't take the low hanging

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Speaker 2: just gonna we know the Bears, like you know, loaded up,

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Speaker 2: but we're gonna talk about something that I think is

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Speaker 2: It kind of leaves and shuffles, and that's Stefan Diggs

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Speaker 2: being traded to the Houston Texans. So, first of all,

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Speaker 2: Nicocollins Tank Dell. Yes, that's a little bit of a

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Speaker 2: hit to their value. But CJ. Stroud, now he's going

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Speaker 2: as the QB thirteen in consensus ADP. You know, there's

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Speaker 2: certain sites you can still get him outside the top

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Speaker 2: Stroud had one of the best rookie seasons of all

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Speaker 2: time last year. Now he's got three All Pro caliber

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Speaker 2: the league in Dalton Schultz, somebody. Everyone's going to be

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Speaker 2: most accurate, strongest armed, best anticipators that we've seen in

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Speaker 2: a while. So I just think with all the quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: Love broke out burrows coming back. So to get a

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Speaker 2: Mahomes is fifty touchdown season, like, that's how efficient, that's

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Speaker 2: how good. CJ. Stroud is with uh With Diggs being

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Speaker 2: added to supporting Caston, Diggs might be the third best

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Speaker 2: which weeks they'll go off. But I would say even

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Speaker 2: See Noah Brown put up like one hundred eight yards

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Speaker 2: about this. This Digs moved to the Texans, and then

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Speaker 2: you know for the Bills, you know they lose not

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Speaker 2: at wide receiver. That makes him an interesting kind of

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Speaker 2: dart throw in basketball. You know you don't you know,

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Speaker 2: even if he starts a little slow and takes some time,

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Speaker 2: you're fine. And then in redraft he's one of the

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Speaker 2: top fifty wide receivers that has a legitimate shot to

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Speaker 2: you're talking about Josh Allen's number one wide receiver too.

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Speaker 2: I think they'll throw a little less like they did

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's let's discuss.

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Speaker 1: Look, the Falcons are setting us up for perennial disappointment.

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. How can people who have been consistently good

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Speaker 1: City Chiefs. So much turmoil this offseason, receivers getting arrested,

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Speaker 2: Is Exavier' Worthy going in round number one to the

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Speaker 3: Well, someone that's own sky more painful, painful. I mean,

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Speaker 5: My number two's Lad McConkie out of Georgia being drafted

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Speaker 1: It's trauma, dramatic pause. The first team that I bet

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Speaker 2: And remember Joe Mixon got traded to Houston, so Mixon

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Speaker 2: is another guy that will be able to benefit from

434
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Speaker 2: that loaded Houston offense and all the attention being paid

435
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Speaker 2: to that passing game. But I want to talk about

436
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Speaker 2: Moss to the Bengals because I think he's a perfect

437
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Speaker 2: scheme fit to replaced Mixing. And he gave us a

438
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Speaker 2: glimpse of what he would look like as a feature

439
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 2: back weeks two through five last year. If you'll remember,

440
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Speaker 2: averaged over twenty four touches and over one hundred and

441
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Speaker 2: twenty nine scrimmage yards per game over a four game stretch,

442
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Speaker 2: with a touchdown per game as well on an eighty

443
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Speaker 2: three percent snap rate. So he's he's been able to,

444
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Speaker 2: you know, after a rough start to his career in Buffalo,

445
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 2: he's been able to kind of write the ship. He

446
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 2: passes the eye test, and you know he's gonna kind

447
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 2: of slide into that mixing role. I think Chase Brown

448
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 2: will still be there, and he's kind of intriguing as well.

449
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 2: Very explosive guy, but mixing. You know, every year people

450
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 2: wanted to write him off in this Bengals offense, and

451
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Speaker 2: all he does is keep putting up, you know, top

452
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Speaker 2: fifteen fantasy seasons. And I think Moss has very similar upside.

453
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Speaker 2: I mean, Joe Mixon was you know, in some scoring systems,

454
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Speaker 2: he was as high as the RB five last year,

455
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Speaker 2: the RB seven and half PPR. So that's kind of

456
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Speaker 2: upside Moss has. And you know, you hit on a chat.

457
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Speaker 2: You know, the Bengals they get this last place schedule,

458
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 2: they get Burrow coming back, you know, they lose one

459
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 2: of their receivers in Tyer Boyd, so you know, maybe

460
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 2: the running game becomes even even more important. So we

461
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 2: know this team is going to move the ball up

462
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Speaker 2: and down the field. Mixing had twelve touchdowns total last year.

463
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Speaker 2: I think Moss has an outside shot at leading the

464
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Speaker 2: league in touchdown because we know how good this offense is.

465
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Speaker 2: So I know, I think twelve touchdowns for the Bengals

466
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Speaker 2: running back it was actually kind of low. So I

467
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Speaker 2: really like Moss here going to Cincinnati. I think it'll

468
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Speaker 2: be about a seventy five twenty five or seventy thirty

469
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Speaker 2: split between him and Brown. You know, Brown is kind

470
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Speaker 2: of best used as like a change of pace, you know,

471
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Speaker 2: after Moss kind of you know, wears down the defense.

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Speaker 2: Brown could break one. But I think Moss will be

473
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 2: the closer. Mass will be the goal lineback, Moss will

474
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Speaker 2: be the feature back. So under the radar move of

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati signing Zach Moss.

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Speaker 1: So I love Cincinnati. I am going to remember that

477
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Speaker 1: you said I kind of nailed it when we get

478
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Speaker 1: to convince me and it's the middle of the season

479
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Speaker 1: and you're just coming after me for god knows whatever

480
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Speaker 1: I say on the show. But I am curious. I'd

481
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Speaker 1: like Kerner's take on this and Simon's take on this.

482
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Speaker 1: Shane Steichen is clearly one of the better offensive head

483
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Speaker 1: coaches and strategists and schemers in the NFL. What he

484
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Speaker 1: did with that Colts team last year after Richardson went down,

485
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Speaker 1: after Gardner, Minshew became the quarterback, getting them to be

486
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Speaker 1: in the position they were, and with a guy like Minshew,

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Speaker 1: how much do we think Zach Moss in that window

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Speaker 1: that you're talking about where he did sort of overperform

489
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Speaker 1: versus his career benefit from being in that kind of system,

490
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Speaker 1: And does that translate to the Bengals coroner give me

491
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Speaker 1: your take?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I think I think that's a great point.

493
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 5: Certainly he benefited from the scheme, but you could just

494
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Speaker 5: see how well he did compared to Jonathan Taylor, who's

495
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 5: still one of the best running backs in the game,

496
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Speaker 5: and he looked every bit as good as JT. I mean,

497
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 5: it was kind of comical how they finally gave JT

498
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 5: that big contract and Zach Moss looked like the best

499
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Speaker 5: running back of the league once that happened. So I

500
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Speaker 5: think just comparatively, you know, Zach Moss is keeping up

501
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Speaker 5: with Jonathan Taylor. So even if he did benefit from

502
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Speaker 5: the scheme, he is a really good back. I mean,

503
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Speaker 5: it's crazy because he had a slow start in Buffalo,

504
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 5: kind of bouncing around, but you know, he was a

505
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 5: highly touted back coming out of college. So I just

506
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 5: think last year kind of proved that he does kind

507
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Speaker 5: of have the talent that could translate in a different scheme.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is is where I make my money, Chad,

509
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 3: if you don't again, Shawan here Chris, great fantasy expert.

510
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Speaker 3: A lot of guys are kind of full of shit

511
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Speaker 3: in this industry. You can Pikett spots with these running

512
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Speaker 3: backs where it's like Raheem Mostert's perfect example. The man

513
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 3: was in an incredible opportunity last year. You get him

514
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Speaker 3: in the ninth round. David Montgomery an incredible opportunity, could

515
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 3: get him in the eighth and ninth round. Same thing here.

516
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Speaker 3: This guy could be a bus dude. This guy could

517
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Speaker 3: get you zero points, or he could be a top

518
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 3: five running back. Like that's the upside with these kind

519
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 3: of guys. So it's a guy you don't have to

520
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 3: grab them in every league you want to own loss

521
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 3: in a couple of different leagues. I don't think the Colts.

522
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 3: I think just showed his athleticism, how good of a

523
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Speaker 3: skilled player he is. It's all about opportunity with a

524
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Speaker 3: lot these running backs. A lot of these guys are

525
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 3: such great athletes. It's just can they have the opportunity

526
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Speaker 3: and a good offense of the good offensive line. So

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Speaker 3: Moss would get you zero points people, but his upside

528
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 3: is really high.

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Speaker 4: So definite.

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Speaker 3: THK. I've been grabbing a lot of.

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Speaker 1: Leagues, Simon. Before you asked Croner about his next pick,

532
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Speaker 1: I just wanted to note Kroner also said I made

533
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Speaker 1: a really good point, and I would like to say

534
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Speaker 1: right now, very possible. In early February of twenty twenty five,

535
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Speaker 1: the four of us are on the show Convince me

536
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Speaker 1: we are talking about is their value on Zach Moss

537
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Speaker 1: to win Super Bowl MVPs when the Bengals are playing

538
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Speaker 1: the Eagles.

539
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 4: Saying I'm still going to t Higgins at sixty to one.

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Speaker 1: There you go me, by the way, Sonny, go.

541
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Speaker 3: Ahead, Yeah, I mean steps stay on the running back, Sean,

542
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 3: who you got for us next?

543
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: Yeah?

544
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Speaker 5: So I'm going with Josh Jacobs going to the Packers.

545
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 5: You know, Jacobs is coming off a down year, but

546
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Speaker 5: he's he's still on the tail end of his prime

547
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 5: at twenty six, and he's potentially going to be a

548
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 5: workhorse back in offense that should continue to trend up

549
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 5: this year. But I think the intriguing part of this

550
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 5: move is it essentially gave us three teams with the

551
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 5: new started running back because now that Jacobs is no

552
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 5: longer in Vegas, thirty year back Zamier White will probably

553
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 5: be their workhorse back and he was very impressive last

554
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 5: season when he was asked to step up. And you know,

555
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 5: after the Packers signed Josh Jacobs, they released Aaron Jones,

556
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 5: who then ended up in their NFC North rival Minnesota Vikings.

557
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 5: So he's going to be the Vikings lead back this year,

558
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 5: which is going to be interesting for a couple of

559
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 5: games when they faced the Packers. But I love this

560
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 5: movie because it gave us three new starting running backs

561
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Speaker 5: for teams. That's always fun to be projecting teams when

562
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 5: they have a new started running back, So this move

563
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 5: gave us three of them.

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Speaker 1: I wonder what's going to happen, Like he is just

565
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: not the same receiver out of the backfield that they've

566
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Speaker 1: had in the past. I'm curious about this fit as

567
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: it impacts the overall season for the Packers. Simon and

568
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: I have been talking about that one a lot. Ray

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Speaker 1: Bun Number four involves the Washington Commanders.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean last year we saw, you know, it

571
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 2: wasn't the number one quarterback who did work in fantasy

572
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 2: in real life, it was the number two. And this

573
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 2: year that number two pick, Jayden Daniels. I just think

574
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Speaker 2: he's another guy here who you have to invest in

575
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 2: in fantasy because of his rushing upside. Now, you know,

576
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Speaker 2: he could be really bad. He could be justin fields

577
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 2: two point zero or something like that and be terrible.

578
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Speaker 2: But in fantasy again, especially when you're picking a quarterback

579
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Speaker 2: outside the top ten, outside the top twelve, where you

580
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 2: can get Daniels in a bunch of drafts. Still, when

581
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Speaker 2: you're picking a guy late like that at quarterback, you're

582
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Speaker 2: looking for upside, and Jayden Daniels has the upside to

583
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Speaker 2: put up similar numbers to a guy like Anthony Richardson,

584
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Speaker 2: who goes as high as the quarterback six quarterback seven

585
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 2: in some draft. You know, Jadeen Daniels has the upside

586
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Speaker 2: because of his rushing to put up more points than

587
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Speaker 2: a guy like a Jordan Love, who's more of a

588
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 2: you know, he runs a little bit, but not you know,

589
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 2: you wouldn't consider him a scrambling quarterback, you know, guys

590
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 2: like that. So I think Jayden Daniels going to a

591
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 2: place where, you know, like Camleb Williams, there's all the

592
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 2: hype because they drafted Roma doones they wear is like

593
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: jayde and Daniels is going to a pretty bad team,

594
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 2: so you know they should have decent passing volume. The

595
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 2: receivers are solid. You know, Terry mclaurin's very good. Dotson

596
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 2: still has some upside, but you know, you'll know he'll

597
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: still be scrambling a ton. So and this guy he

598
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 2: actually threw the ball. He was a very good passer

599
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 2: in school as well. Now will that translate that remains

600
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: to be seen. But he's also got Austin eckwer low Key,

601
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: you know, a guy who can help him in the

602
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 2: receiving game as well. So I just like Jaden Daniels

603
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Speaker 2: here and the upside that he brings to just another

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Speaker 2: late round quarterback selection. You know, there was a couple

605
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 2: of years in there where you kind of had to

606
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 2: start drafting quarterbacks a little higher. You know, guys like

607
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 2: Homes and Hurts and Borough were dominating and Herbert, but

608
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 2: now quarterback it's pretty so I think this year I

609
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 2: find myself waiting almost every draft at quarterback because you

610
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: want to take your shots at those received wide receivers

611
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 2: and those running backs, and I mean tight end is

612
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: a nightmare too. So if you're going to spend a

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00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: premium pick on one of those positions where you only

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00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 2: have to start one per week, then I would rather

615
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: do it at tight end and wait on a quarterback.

616
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Speaker 2: And if I'm getting a guy like CJ. Stroud or

617
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Speaker 2: a guy like Jayden Daniels, I'll take that upside every time.

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Speaker 1: When did you, guys, you just had some aggressive Justin

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Speaker 1: Fields violence and for a lot of people, it was

620
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Speaker 1: down to the wire in the end of the season

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Speaker 1: before the Bears were making a choice of keeping Justin

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Speaker 1: Fields or deciding they were going to go for Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 1: From your Metrics, Raybond and Kroner, I'm curious, when did

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Speaker 1: you see sort of the most precipitous decline with Justin Fields.

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00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: When was it clear to you, guys, he's not the answer.

626
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Speaker 2: And I think. I don't think Justin Fields necessarily declined.

627
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: I think he started. He actually took a while to

628
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Speaker 2: get going. If you remember his first few starts, they

629
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Speaker 2: barely let him throw the ball, and so he was

630
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Speaker 2: putting up like literally nothing as a passer. And then eventually,

631
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Speaker 2: like I actually thought, he improved over his tenure in Chicago.

632
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Speaker 2: But you know, it's nothing like getting the number one

633
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 2: overall pick in Kayo Williams. I do think it's it's

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00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: kind of it strikes me as odd that Pittsburgh has essentially,

635
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: you know, according to them anyway, decided that Russell Wilson's

636
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 2: gonna be their guy. In fields has no chance to

637
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 2: win this job. Because I'm not so sure Justin Fields

638
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: isn't or can't be better than Russell Wilson this year

639
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 2: as early as week one, so if he's not better already,

640
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 2: so I think. But the thing about Fields is, I

641
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Speaker 2: just think processing. I think he takes too long. I

642
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 2: think if you if you want to look at metrics,

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00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 2: I think it's you know, time to throw. You know,

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00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 2: that's where he really struggles. He's just not processing as

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00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 2: fast as you compare that to a guy like C. J. Stroud,

646
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Speaker 2: who it took him two weeks to get up to speed.

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Speaker 2: I think he got sacked like nine times, like Simon

648
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 2: talked about after that battle line didn't matter because he

649
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,479
Speaker 2: can anticipate throws. That's why c J. Stroud is gonna

650
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 2: be good and we're not worried about regression. Anticipation. That's

651
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 2: what Justin Fields doesn't have, probably will never have. But

652
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 2: in fantasy, still plenty, plenty of rushing upside to to

653
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,479
Speaker 2: land himself in the top ten or even top five

654
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 2: most weeks.

655
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: Gonan, what about you?

656
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I agree with Raybond. It's his processing.

657
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 5: He probably lean on his rushing upside, you know, probably

658
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 5: too much, but that was great for fantasy. But also

659
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 5: the Bears didn't really set him up for success like

660
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 5: they are with Caleb Blows right now. I mean, he

661
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 5: was throwing when he was rookies, throwing to Darnell Mooney

662
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 5: and the already washed you know, Alan Robinson, Marquise Goodwin,

663
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 5: whereas you know Caleb Williams had as DJ Moore, Keenan

664
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 5: Allen and Romo Doonese. So I mean they're just setting

665
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 5: up Caleb Williams for success a lot early on. So

666
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 5: I can't fault fields for all of that, but you know,

667
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 5: Gilds is great for fantasy.

668
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 4: I have no issue with justin fields when it comes

669
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 4: with fantasy.

670
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 1: All right, Crooner, give us your fourth.

671
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

672
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 5: So it's Marquise Brown to the Chiefs. Piggybacking what you

673
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 5: know Raybaund said about Xavier Worthy. This is just a

674
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 5: great spot anytime you have somebody going to play with

675
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes, that's that's a huge upgrade. But also, as

676
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 5: Raybon mentioned, you know, Rashie Rice is in some pretty

677
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 5: significant legal trouble. Who knows if or how many games

678
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 5: he will get suspended, but I could see them maybe

679
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 5: leaning on Brown early on. You know, I like Xavier

680
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 5: Worthy a lot. You know, he has a ton of speed,

681
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 5: but his you know, route running, his route tree might

682
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 5: be a little bit more simple to start, So I

683
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 5: think Brown might be his top receiver to start. So,

684
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 5: which is when Rahie Rice will potentially be missed games.

685
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 5: So I thought markis Brown was a great learning spot

686
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 5: for him and for the Chiefs. It does give them

687
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 5: insurance in case Rice does get suspended. So similar to

688
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 5: what Ravonn was saying, I think, you know, Brown and

689
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 5: Worthy to the Chiefs. Was two really intriguing moves this offseason.

690
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: You skipped one, Oh I did Jonathan Brooks to Carolina.

691
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 5: Oh okay, well I'll talk about that. Yeah, Jonathan Brooks

692
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 5: being drafted by the Panthers. You know, he was arguably

693
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 5: the top running back in this class, but he suffered

694
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 5: an ACL tear in November, so you know, he might

695
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 5: not be one hundred percent four week one, but you know,

696
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 5: this was a good landing spot. I thought the Cowboys

697
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 5: would have been the best landing spot, but this is

698
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 5: probably the second one because he's gonna have to compete

699
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,959
Speaker 5: with Chewba Hubbard and Miles Sanders. So I think once

700
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 5: he is fully healthy, he's going to be the lead

701
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 5: back here. And again, when I was watching his tape

702
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 5: at Texas, I just kept thinking Todd Gurley. He reminds

703
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 5: me of Todd Gurley. That's how good I think he

704
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 5: could be. So this is an offense that could be

705
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 5: better this year. I mean, we picked on the Panthers

706
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 5: all last year, but this year, you know, under Dave Canalis,

707
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 5: it could be a lot better and Jonathan Brooks could

708
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 5: benefit from that and he could help, you know, open

709
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 5: things up for Bryce singing as well. But you know,

710
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 5: Brooks is one of my favorite running back prospects in

711
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 5: this class, and he landed in a pretty solid spot

712
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 5: to be a workhorse back.

713
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: You were in such mid season form, Croner, that you

714
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 1: transitioned perfectly into Raybond's fifth and final most intriguing move

715
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: of the offseason.

716
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like Sean alluded to it. With Dave Canalis

717
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 2: coming over from Tampa Bay as the offensive coordinator, now

718
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 2: he's the head coach in Carolina, obviously going to have

719
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 2: his fingerprints all over this offense, and I think that's

720
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 2: really important for a couple of reasons. The first is

721
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 2: Canalis is building up a track record of being a

722
00:37:55,160 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 2: quarterback whisperer. So he's been working with Gino Smith in

723
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: Seattle pretty much Smith's entire tenure there, and he's the

724
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 2: one that really receives credit for that massive turnaround that

725
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 2: Gino had a couple of years ago, and then last year,

726
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: you know, when he got the job in Tampa Bay,

727
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 2: off the strength of that Gino turnaround, Gino's numbers dropped

728
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: across the board pretty much. It was subtle, but they

729
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: did drop. And that's even with you know better receiving

730
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 2: core because you had Jackson Smith and Jigba a first

731
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 2: round pick, and then he goes to Tampa Bay as

732
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator and Baker Mayfield has a career year

733
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 2: after he's bouncing around. I mean I went to a

734
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 2: game out here, and you know, he was playing the

735
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 2: Raiders with the Rams on like two days. He had

736
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 2: just flown in like the day before or something like that.

737
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 2: He was learning to playbook on a flight. And now

738
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 2: he's having a career year weeding the Bucks to a

739
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 2: playoff win. Not just a playoffs, but a playoff win

740
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 2: over the defending NFC champion. So I think that this guy,

741
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 2: if anyone's going to turn around Bryce Young and I

742
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 2: was way down on the Panthers last year. I mean,

743
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 2: they were the team that I just could not understand

744
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 2: their win total at all. I couldn't understand why anyone

745
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 2: was investing anything. And I just thought they set rising

746
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: up to fail last year. You know, bad offensive line,

747
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: no speed, no just just just a terrible situation. Frank

748
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 2: Wright one of the worst coaches. Now you got Canalis

749
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 2: working with young Deontay Johnson, who's one of the best

750
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 2: route runners in the league coming over from Pittsburgh underrated movee.

751
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 2: I like Johnson. I think he could out kick his

752
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 2: ADP as usually going around wide receiver, you know, thirty

753
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 2: five to forty. I think he could finish in the

754
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 2: top fifteen, top twenty, because we saw that with Adam

755
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 2: Dewen last year. Even on this you know, terrible offense,

756
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 2: Adam Dealen still managed to be a very valuable the

757
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: ghost of Adam Thavan, I should say, managed to be

758
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 2: a very valuable fantasy receiver last year. Deontay Johnson at

759
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 2: this he's in his prime. You know. I know it

760
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 2: didn't show and Paysburg, but so that I think that's

761
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 2: a real positive development. Sean already mentioned Brooks. You revamped

762
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 2: the offensive line. You went out and spent you know,

763
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty million dollars on interior lineman. Robert

764
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 2: Robert Hunt comes over from Miami, and then you got

765
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 2: Damian Lewis coming over from Seattle. And that's really important

766
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 2: for Bryce down because he's short. So interior pressure big

767
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 2: problem because their tackles are fine a Quandu and Moton,

768
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 2: but their interior line was one of the worst we've

769
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 2: seen this decade last year. So pretty much everything about

770
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 2: the Panthers offense is night and day. You also drafted

771
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 2: a rookie, Xavier Laguette, who I think is already better

772
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 2: than Jonathan Mingo. So they now have a formidable receiving corps.

773
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 2: They have some some juice in the backfield. They'll have

774
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 2: Young protected, and they have a guy that's proven to

775
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: take guys that we had no hope for and turn

776
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 2: these guys into you know, above average starters. And you're

777
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 2: looking at Bryce Young, who is a number one overall pick.

778
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: So the talent is there. I think you could see

779
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 2: a big turnaround. And that, Simon is why the Giants

780
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 2: aren't my favorite, ugly, disgusting, best ball late round stack

781
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 2: because you can get Bryce Young outside the top twenty quarterbacks.

782
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 2: Deontay Johnson is their highest drafted receiver. His ADP's like

783
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 2: wide receiver thirty five, wide receiver forty. All their other

784
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 2: receivers are lower than that. Their tight ends probably aren't

785
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 2: gonna be of much consequence. I like Sanders the rookie,

786
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 2: but you know, rookie tight ends, especially you know in

787
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: the middle rounds, probably not gonna do much. So I

788
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: think you could stack Young and his receiver and you know, Johnson,

789
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 2: Thielen and we get and all those guys are easy

790
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: to draft. You're not really competing with people. Once you

791
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 2: get one or two of them, people probably aren't gonna

792
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 2: be rushing to draft the other guys. They're gonna leave

793
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: them for you because no one's stacking the Carolina Panthers.

794
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 2: So I think it's a low risk, high reward bet

795
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 2: that you can make in best ball and then in redraft.

796
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 2: I think people will be I think Johnson will be

797
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 2: very consistent, kind of like Dewhen was over the first

798
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 2: half of last season before he ran out of gas.

799
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: So three things. One, Adam Thielen might have won us

800
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: a couple of bets last year in that street where

801
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,959
Speaker 1: we were betting the Panthers every single week. Two, you've

802
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: just convinced me we're going to bet the Panthers every

803
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: single week again. I believe they're five point underdogs and

804
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: it's the Saints in week one.

805
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 2: Three.

806
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: Everything about the Panthers is night and day, except Bryce

807
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: Young is still under six feet tall. Simon your question.

808
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know we all have a guy, right,

809
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 3: I got a guy who does a lot of research

810
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 3: working for fantasy and when he gave me his sheet

811
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 3: a month ago. I was shocked to see how different

812
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 3: his view of the running back position and just the

813
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 3: overall fantasy giz this year. So I love you guys

814
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 3: your opinion on it. His one through fifty rankings. His

815
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 3: number one is a macaffe. Everyone's got that. His number

816
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 3: two is Robinson, the running back for Atlanta, and his

817
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 3: number three was Barkley And people right now again Barkley

818
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 3: in the middle of the second round to the end

819
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 3: of the second round. His whole view is Barkley was

820
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 3: going top five, top eight his whole career on the Giants.

821
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 3: Now he's on the Eagles, the best offensive line he's

822
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 3: ever had, on one of the best offense he's ever

823
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 3: been a part of. And now he's a middle to

824
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 3: late round, second round pick. What's the view of Barkley?

825
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 3: Why is he going outside of the first round? Like,

826
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 3: why are people not buying in on Barkley on arkably

827
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 3: the best offense he'll ever be on in his career?

828
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: Turner you first, maybe just.

829
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 5: His touch on upside is limited because anytime they get

830
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 5: near the goal line, that's going to be a toush

831
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 5: push play. And maybe his receiving upside is limited because

832
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts tends to scramble, he doesn't check down his

833
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 5: running backs. But I agree it is a better situation

834
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 5: in terms of efficiency. I mean, he's going to have

835
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 5: a really good offensive line compared to what he's used

836
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 5: to seeing.

837
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:53,479
Speaker 4: I have number four.

838
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 5: I think you could argue, you know, like Brisall, I

839
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 5: love Bresaw, He's my number two back. I think Jonathan

840
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,439
Speaker 5: Taylor is back in the mix to be a top

841
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 5: three back. So I think just that tier, I don't

842
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 5: think you go wrong with anybody, but I think when

843
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 5: it comes to Barkley, just his upside is limited just

844
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 5: in terms of touchdowns and receptions. But he is a

845
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 5: guy that hasn't really banked on a ton of touchdowns anyway.

846
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 5: I think he's going to see the volume you want

847
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 5: and need in a top five back. So I think

848
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 5: he has a very high floor. But again, I think

849
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 5: his ceiling could be a little bit limited.

850
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 2: Ray Bon, Yeah, I'm higher than consensus on Barkley as well.

851
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 2: But you know, I don't think you need to spend

852
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 2: and that's a lesson that we you know, Sean and

853
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: I talk about this every year when we do our

854
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: kind of you know, Fantasy one oh one, Fantasy Flex Pod.

855
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 2: But just because a guy is ranked in a certain

856
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 2: spot doesn't mean you need to draft him there. And

857
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 2: I know that might sound confusing to some people, but Okay,

858
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 2: if Saguon Barkley is going you know, mid l eight

859
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 2: second round and you have him ranked top five, you know,

860
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 2: if you're drafting in the early second round or even

861
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 2: you know, early to mid second round, like, you don't

862
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 2: have to use your first round pick on him just

863
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 2: because he's ranked number five. You can, it's just you're

864
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 2: essentially getting two first round picks if you wait. So

865
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 2: I am higher. But I do agree with what Sean said.

866
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 2: I think it's really important to note that scrambling quarterbacks

867
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: in general are not going to check down to running

868
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: backs as much. Now Barki, they could still design screens

869
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 2: and things for him, but Philadelphia had a real issue

870
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 2: picking up the Blitz last year, so I would think

871
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 2: that bark we may also have to stay in a

872
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 2: block some But at the same time, Philadelphia, you know,

873
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 2: in one of the best Rothersman, one of the best

874
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 2: gms in the you know, in football, he invested heavily

875
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 2: in a running back, which you know, a lot of

876
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 2: the analytics people kind of look down on and this

877
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 2: is not just a you know, investing heavy in a

878
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 2: running back. This is a guy who is entering his

879
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: age twenty seven season and entering his seventh year in

880
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 2: the league, and he has had his share of injuries.

881
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 2: He does have you know, fifteen over fifteen hundred career

882
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 2: touches when you include the postseason, so there is somewhere.

883
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 2: But I think Philadelphia they wouldn't have invested this much

884
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: if they weren't intending to kind of use him and

885
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 2: run him into the ground. Or the offensive line also

886
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 2: not as good as it's been. You know, you got

887
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 2: the the Kelsey retirement and things like that, but still

888
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 2: night and day better than the Giants. So yeah, I'm

889
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 2: I think I think Barkley is being a little bit undervalued.

890
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 2: But I kind of agree with Sean said, I think

891
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 2: the floor is just very high because you know how

892
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 2: they're going to use him. You know, he's gonna get

893
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 2: a ton of snaps. He's never averaged, you know, but

894
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 2: for his career, he's around like, you know, nineteen twenty

895
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: touches per game, so he's gonna get a ton of work.

896
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 2: He'll be fine. I don't think you need to spend

897
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 2: a top five pick on him, though. I just take

898
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 2: him if i'm early, you know, early second, I'd take

899
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 2: him there.

900
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 3: And some in whispers, just for the fancy heads out there,

901
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 3: some whispers that he's been taking snaps in the Toush

902
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 3: push position, so we look like Barkley might be taking

903
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 3: the Toush push.

904
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 2: That would change everything.

905
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: I've done enough shows with Simon to know when he

906
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 1: says there have been whispers, what he's really saying is

907
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: I got someone who's basically snapping the ball that Jalen hurts,

908
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: and I'm on the practice field right now.

909
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 3: To be careful, Seriannis has a lot of crazy shitch

910
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 3: so I don't want to go too crazy. But he

911
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 3: apparently was the one that's been saying it.

912
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: It makes sense because like Jalen Hurts, you know, you

913
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 2: want his long term health. You want him to be

914
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 2: healthy long term. So Barkley's like, you're already gonna use

915
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 2: him to the wheels fall off anyway, He's already twenty

916
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 2: twenty seven, you might as well just use him on

917
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 2: some pushes.

918
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I cannot believe that Saquon Barkley is already in

919
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:56,439
Speaker 1: his seventh year.

920
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you said that, Like literally my stomach drop over.

921
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like I feel like he just started playing yesterday.

922
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: I like that we started the show with a lot

923
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924
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,359
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925
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,880
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931
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